Re: [Ganglia-general] O'Reilly eBook on Ganglia

2011-12-13 Thread Chris Burroughs
On 12/09/2011 07:51 PM, Matt Massie wrote:
 What are the things you would be most interested in?  Are there other
 topics you'd like to see covered?

I would also like to see more details on how and why for different
common variations.  For example, some people set 'host' to something
other than the hostname so that they can group by something other than
machine.

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Re: [Ganglia-general] O'Reilly eBook on Ganglia

2011-12-13 Thread Matt Massie
Thanks for all the replies.  I've been silently taking down notes.  Feel
free to keep the ideas coming.

-Matt


On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Chris Burroughs
chris.burrou...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 12/09/2011 07:51 PM, Matt Massie wrote:
  What are the things you would be most interested in?  Are there other
  topics you'd like to see covered?

 I would also like to see more details on how and why for different
 common variations.  For example, some people set 'host' to something
 other than the hostname so that they can group by something other than
 machine.

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[Ganglia-general] Ganglia Web 2.2.0 released

2011-12-13 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
Ganglia Web 2.2.0 has been released. Announcement is here

http://ganglia.info/?p=479

Noteable changes are described here

http://ganglia.info/?p=464

Thanks to Peter Piela and Jeff Buchbinder for their vast amount of 
contributions to this release.

Vladimir

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Re: [Ganglia-general] Gmetric Kilobyte unit representation

2011-12-13 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
Instead of sending value as kilobytes send it as Bytes (multiply with 1024 
obviously prior to sending). RRDtool will scale the graph for you 
correctly.


Vladimir

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011, Aidan Wong wrote:


Thank you Alex for the info.  I was apparently wishful thinking about
Ganglia capabilitiesÅ 
Any info on an easy way to search through the mailing list archives?


On 12/12/11 2:35 PM, Alex Dean a...@crackpot.org wrote:


The graph is showing you a value of roughly 10.5 million Kilobytes, which
matches what you sent via gmetric.  The label 'Kilobytes' is just text,
and not interpreted by ganglia in any way, so no unit conversion will be
performed.

If you want the graph to be in gigabytes, do the division in your script
prior to calling gmetric.
 $ gmetric --conf=gmond.conf --name test_metric2 --value 10.57 --type
float --units Gigabytes

alex

On Dec 12, 2011, at 2:01 PM, Aidan Wong wrote:


Hi,

I'm trying to pass a metric with Gmetric in Kilobytes but the unit
representation in the graph is not correct.
Example:
$ gmetric --conf=gmond.conf --name test_metric2 --value 10570393 --type
int32 --units Kilobytes

For the command above, the graph represents 10570393 Kb as 10.57 Mb
instead of 10.57 Gb.  See picture attached.  Can someone indicate how I
should make the graph display the correct byte conversion?
Also is it possible to search the archive mailing list items from the
SourceForge forum list?
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=ganglia-general


Thanks

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Re: [Ganglia-general] Hierarchical metric names

2011-12-13 Thread Daniel Pocock

 Is there interest in formalizing a hierarchical naming convention for
 metrics in Ganglia?
   

I agree that Ganglia's existing methods are very simplistic.

On the positive side, they are very easy to understand and they are both
sufficient and effective for simple situations

On the other hand, there are various issues:

a) multiple instances - net devices, filesystems, CPUs (maybe you've
seen my recent release of ganglia-modules-solaris with per-core CPU
support and per-disk IO stats?),

b) dynamic names: do you really want to see `net_bytes_out_eth1' if eth1
is a USB device and tomorrow it might appear as eth2 or eth3?  Or does
Ganglia need to have some mapping functionality, so the name would
appear as `net_bytes_out_wan' no matter what physical device name was
used?  The same issue applies to filesystems.

c) use of an existing hierarchy: could we borrow from SNMP and use the
OID, for example?  Maybe a future version of Ganglia could just be a
multicast transport for SNMP, and the gmetad would just poll the normal
SNMP daemon to get the mappings of OID-real device names

d) adding or removing devices (e.g. USB net or storage, virtual devices
on a VM, provisioning a SAN filesystem over fibre channel) while Ganglia
is running - at a very simplistic level, gmond could just restart itself
when it notices a change, but if a system is very dynamic, it could
appear that the daemon is flapping

e) application-specific monitoring: e.g. you run two UAT environments, a
demo environment and a production environment.  Each application
instance is a JVM.  You move the UAT environments around between
different servers, but you want to keep all the history from each JVM
and associate it with the name of the environment rather than the name
of the server.

f) excluding some things from aggregation: in the per-core CPU
monitoring, it doesn't mean anything to look at an aggregation of core
no. 3 from each of your 10 hosts, especially if 4 of the hosts only have
2 cores.

g) common solution with Nagios and other technologies: it may also be
desirable to have some naming convention (with meta-data support) that
can be shared, for example, something that could be used by Nagios,
preferably with enough meta-data to allow auto-configuration of things
that should be monitored

My feeling is that all these types of issues should go on a roadmap for
Ganglia 4 or beyond.  It is probably not possible to address them all in
one go, but if they are factored in to the next iteration of the
protocol, then they can be added incrementally


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