g_b IMPORTANT: PM's speech + Minister's remarks on S.377
courtesy lgbtindia IMPORTANT: PM's speech + Minister's remarks on S.377 Just after the success of National Pride, a potentially big new development. The Prime Minister has made a speech where he calls for support for minority communities affected by HIV/AIDS, including homosexuals, and says that legal barriers that prevent services reaching them should go. And at the same function Minister of State Oscar Fernandes finally said it openly: Section 377 needs to go. This is something we really need to move forward on. For context, please note this mail I'd posted on QMC earlier about the UNAIDS Commission on the Impact of HIV in Asia chaired by Dr.C. Rangarajan. As expected the report is very positive on issues like the need for legal change. I had posted the background and relevant sections earlier on this list. If you want to read the full report here's the link: A basic story on the report: http://www.unaids.org/en/KnowledgeCentre/Resources/FeatureStories/arch ive/2008/20080326_asia_commission.asp Full report: http://data.unaids.org/pub/Report/2008/20080326_report_commission_aids _en.pdf Fact sheets (2): http://data.unaids.org/pub/FactSheet/2008/20080326_fs_asiacommission_p art1_en.pdf http://data.unaids.org/pub/FactSheet/2008/20080326_fs_asiacommission_p art2_en.pdf Thanks to Dr.Rangarajan's position as one of the prime minister's main advisors he was able to arrange a function where the report was presented to the PM. This happened yesterday and I'd come to Delhi for that (Pride was a bonus!). Anand Grover was there and Ashok was supposed to be there too, but couldn't come. It was all very high power, high security, protocol, etc, but worth it because what was said was excellent. Dr.Rangarajan gave an excellent speech outlining the commission's recommendations, repeatedly mentioning the need to remove legal issues that complicate HIV/AIDS outreach with Men who have Sex with Men. Then the PM spoke, and as is characteristic with him, he was low key and restrained. But the speech was longer than I expected and it seemed quite heartfelt, especially towards the end. He did not specifically promise to remove 377, but he spoke of the need to remove stigmas and legal barriers facing all groups and, yes, he said the word 'homosexual', rather endearingly stumbling a bit so it came across as homossekssuals, but he said it! Here is the link to the speech, the relevant portions and since its so important I will paste the full speech anyway below: http://www.pmindia.nic.in/lspeech.asp?id=691 The HIV/AIDS epidemic has brought into focus many of our social prejudices. The overwhelming number of cases are due to transmission through the sexual route. Strategies for tackling it require more inclusive and less judgmental social approaches to questions of public health and personal hygiene. This must begin by addressing the issue of the social stigma that attaches to those who carry the AIDS virus. I do believe that growing consciousness about HIV/AIDS is forcing us to address these issues. The government should play a leading role in this. We should work to remove legislative barriers that hinder access of high-risk groups to services. There is a proposal for a law which would penalize anyone discriminating against an AIDS infected person from access to employment, property or services. This should be given serious consideration. The fact that many of the vulnerable social groups, be they sex workers or homosexuals or drug users, face great social prejudice has made the task of identifying AIDS victims and treating them very difficult. If we have to win this fight against HIV/AIDS we have to create a more tolerant social environment. One need not condone socially unacceptable or medically inadvisable sexual practices in seeking a more tolerant approach to the problem. It is in the interests of the entire society that everyone afflicted by AIDS wins the battle against it. They deserve and have the right to live lives of dignity. If Dr.Singh was circumspect, the speaker who followed him, Oscar Fernandes, the minister of state (independent charge) for Labour and Employment, was not. He got up and said it (from my notes): It is time for politicians to come together to repeal Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Many other countries have repealed the law and it is now time India moves forward on this. For most people in the audience - institutions like UNAIDS, the National AIDS Control Organisation, bureaucrats, a few lawyers and journalists - this was electrifying. We were finally hearing a senior member of the government, in the presence of the prime minister, saying that S.377 needs to go! After the function was over and we were having tea we descended on the Minister, who admitted he has wondered about saying it, but after half an hour of discussion wit advisors, he decided to go ahead. It was amazing, but its also true that its questionable how much this means in reality. This government seems
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g_b What I Want (A gay Poem)
What I Want It's not about what I like what I like that doesn't like me cause I see happiness but it just gets run over I just get run over and somehow I'm a bad guy for making all those boys cry do you think I got what I wanted alone and clinging to this moment or that seeing smiles fade away waiting for a light to come on one small and distant but warm and welcome I want to be welcomed to be held to know why I can have it and it's nothing but wrong and when it's right it's nothing but gone it's all gone left me to hold my head up low for you to know a distant glow and me to see a beaten image a broken, shattered shell what was I to do when through it keeps breaking i keep trying there isn't anymore left i want to spin, sell, conjure find a way out complain and drain submit my statement and be done be done have fun hold you close let you know me know me from him and him and him again always again always again it's always again that him knew him and I knew them all and had them all and to have and have more makes you just a whore But don't we all want more or say we do and screw and move from you to you to you and I'm sad this lad said no and that lad said ho and my dad said whoa where did you go where did I go wrong to want the world to work just to expect it expect what you know and never, never to grow Forwarded By Rajeev Sp: In few last poems, I forgot to write forwarded by me n some readers took them as, they were written by me. Sorry for the same. Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food and more. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/
g_b The support of the band
Hey all, Some of you might know that I have a (hindi) rock band called Shor Bazaar. I am out to them and am very open about my sexuality and personal life etc. Yesterday, after the GayBombay Sunday meet at Bandra, I was lounging at one of our bandmate's apartment discussing some songwriting etc. I suddenly felt like asking 'Guys, would you guys be interested in playing at a GB party?' It took a brief second. But only that. 'Yes, why not?' I was surprised at first. 'Are you sure?' 'Yeah, we'd love to support you and GB.' I felt the warm feeling of relief and comfort. I thought it was pretty cool of the band to actually say that. If you have time, please check out these pages and listen to our music. The lyrics are not gay related or anything though. http://myspace.com/bazaarshor http://bazaarshor.blogspot.com Cheers, Kris -- http://engayginglife.blogspot.com Remember that if men were not meant to be sucked, their bodies wouldn't have come with a nozzle! - A Gay
Re: g_b IMPORTANT: PM's speech + Minister's remarks on S.377
WAT! A minister of state and the PM saying this and no less?? wow man ..m i proud i chose to stay back in the country after all! :-) Also where does this leave the case coming up for hearing tomorrow as the head of the Govt and a minister are openly being party to the act being changed in our favour Rgds Manoj --- On Tue, 1/7/08, lgbtindiagroup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: lgbtindiagroup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: g_b IMPORTANT: PM's speech + Minister's remarks on S.377 To: gay_bombay@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 1 July, 2008, 3:23 PM courtesy lgbtindia IMPORTANT: PM's speech + Minister's remarks on S.377 Just after the success of National Pride, a potentially big new development. The Prime Minister has made a speech where he calls for support for minority communities affected by HIV/AIDS, including homosexuals, and says that legal barriers that prevent services reaching them should go. And at the same function Minister of State Oscar Fernandes finally said it openly: Section 377 needs to go. This is something we really need to move forward on. For context, please note this mail I'd posted on QMC earlier about the UNAIDS Commission on the Impact of HIV in Asia chaired by Dr.C. Rangarajan. As expected the report is very positive on issues like the need for legal change. I had posted the background and relevant sections earlier on this list. If you want to read the full report here's the link: A basic story on the report: http://www.unaids. org/en/Knowledge Centre/Resources /FeatureStories/ arch ive/2008/20080326_ asia_commission. asp Full report: http://data. unaids.org/ pub/Report/ 2008/20080326_ report_commissio n_aids _en.pdf Fact sheets (2): http://data. unaids.org/ pub/FactSheet/ 2008/20080326_ fs_asiacommissio n_p art1_en.pdf http://data. unaids.org/ pub/FactSheet/ 2008/20080326_ fs_asiacommissio n_p art2_en.pdf Thanks to Dr.Rangarajan' s position as one of the prime minister's main advisors he was able to arrange a function where the report was presented to the PM. This happened yesterday and I'd come to Delhi for that (Pride was a bonus!). Anand Grover was there and Ashok was supposed to be there too, but couldn't come. It was all very high power, high security, protocol, etc, but worth it because what was said was excellent. Dr.Rangarajan gave an excellent speech outlining the commission's recommendations, repeatedly mentioning the need to remove legal issues that complicate HIV/AIDS outreach with Men who have Sex with Men. Then the PM spoke, and as is characteristic with him, he was low key and restrained. But the speech was longer than I expected and it seemed quite heartfelt, especially towards the end. He did not specifically promise to remove 377, but he spoke of the need to remove stigmas and legal barriers facing all groups and, yes, he said the word 'homosexual' , rather endearingly stumbling a bit so it came across as homossekssuals , but he said it! Here is the link to the speech, the relevant portions and since its so important I will paste the full speech anyway below: http://www.pmindia. nic.in/lspeech. asp?id=691 The HIV/AIDS epidemic has brought into focus many of our social prejudices. The overwhelming number of cases are due to transmission through the sexual route. Strategies for tackling it require more inclusive and less judgmental social approaches to questions of public health and personal hygiene. This must begin by addressing the issue of the social stigma that attaches to those who carry the AIDS virus. I do believe that growing consciousness about HIV/AIDS is forcing us to address these issues. The government should play a leading role in this. We should work to remove legislative barriers that hinder access of high-risk groups to services. There is a proposal for a law which would penalize anyone discriminating against an AIDS infected person from access to employment, property or services. This should be given serious consideration. The fact that many of the vulnerable social groups, be they sex workers or homosexuals or drug users, face great social prejudice has made the task of identifying AIDS victims and treating them very difficult. If we have to win this fight against HIV/AIDS we have to create a more tolerant social environment. One need not condone socially unacceptable or medically inadvisable sexual practices in seeking a more tolerant approach to the problem. It is in the interests of the entire society that everyone afflicted by AIDS wins the battle against it. They deserve and have the right to live lives of dignity. If Dr.Singh was circumspect, the speaker who followed him, Oscar Fernandes, the minister of state (independent charge) for Labour and Employment, was not. He got up and said it (from my notes): It is time for politicians to come together to repeal Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code. Many other countries have repealed the law and it is now time India moves forward on this. For most
g_b Queer Eye
Its finally here! The groundbreaking reality show Queer Eye for The Str8 Guy is premiering on July 6 Sun on Travel and Living at 11 pm. Kudos to channels like TL, Zee Cafe and Star World for their queer programmes. For more info on the show chk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_Eye shibu
g_b Sudhagad Trek Registrations Closed!!!
Thankyou for an overwhelming response to the GayBombay Trek to Sudhagad. Since all the 50 places have been taken we have closed registrations. However, we do continue to receive registration requests. Much as we would like to take everybody on the trek we have limitations imposed on the number of persons by the trek guides. The time required to climb up the fort is directly proportional to the number of persons in the group. A average group of 20-25 person require 2 hours, group of 50 may require an approximate of 3 hours. Any further additions of numbers would make the ascend longer leaving no time for any activity on the Fort. It causes us immense pain to turn down requests but have no choice. We are have appealed to persons who have secured confirmed places to inform us immediately if any unforeseen circumstances are keeping them from the trek. In that case their places could be given those who are wait listed. Their contributions would also be refunded. Those who have just missed the bus, please keep your fingers crossed, who knows you may be lucky! Radhey
