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http://www.thehindu.com/features/metroplus/hindi-belt-a-different-life-in-letters/article6510743.ece Hindi Belt: A different life in letters KULDEEP KUMAR The issue of same-sex relationships has been occupying considerable space in public discourse for quite some time. It was fiercely debated when in December last year, the Supreme Court of India overturned a Delhi High Court ruling and re-criminalised same-sex marriages and homosexual acts invoking an archaic Victorian law that was enacted by the British rulers in 1861. Interestingly, such laws have been thrown out of the window in the United Kingdom. At present, 17 countries, including two from Latin America, have granted legal recognition to same-sex marriages. A few days ago, the United States Supreme Court legalised such marriages in five States. In this context, one must remember that Johanna Sigurdardottir, who was Iceland’s longest-serving Member of Parliament and served her country as its Prime Minister between 2009 and 2013, was openly lesbian. In India, the land of the Kamasutra, Tantra and the Khajuraho temples, we somehow shy away from discussing these issues. Organisations and individuals espousing Hindutva, Islamist or Christian causes fulminate at the mention of same-sex relationships. Therefore, it came as a very pleasant surprise when I chanced upon a book written in Hindi jointly by Jagadishwar Chaturvedi and Sudha Singh who teach at the Hindi Departments of Calcutta and Delhi Universities respectively. Titled *Kamukta, Pornography aur Streevad *(“Sexuality, Pornography and Feminism”), the book was published several years ago but was not accorded the attention it deserved by the sprawling Hindi academia where Bhaktikal is a never-ending epoch. This is perhaps the first and the only book of its kind that seriously discusses and analyses various modern theories and methodologies that have emerged on the intellectual scene since Simone de Beauvoir published her classic *The Second Sex *in 1949. It also explores and lays bare the phenomenon of pornography and its close relationship with the corporate structures. I have read *Lihaaf* (“The Quilt”), the famous short story of Ismat Chughtai, that had kicked up a storm in the Urdu literary world after its publication in 1942 as it had very obvious suggestions of lesbianism. However, it came as news to me that in 1947, a woman writer Asha Sahay had written a full-length novel *Ekakini* (“The Recluse”) in Hindi. The novel did not have mere suggestions of lesbianism but frankly portrayed two young women in an intense lesbian relationship. Thus, it was the first Hindi novel on lesbianism written from a feminist perspective. One was even more surprised to read that Acharya Shivpujan Sahay, one of the top Hindi writers and editors of his time, had written the novel’s foreword praising its beautiful “modern style”. As a work of art, *Lihaaf* is perhaps miles ahead of *Ekakini*. However, in *Ekakini*, Asha Sahay expresses her thoughts through heroine Kala who questions male dominance in every sphere of life and rebels against it. “We are nothing in ourselves. We have no separate existence of our own. Even if we sacrifice everything for the man, we receive only his indifference and neglect. On top of it, we are called Devi.” Kala describes the status of a Devi (goddess) as a curse. When her lover Arati decides to marry a man, Kala says, “So, you want a male life-partner, not a female. But, will he love you even more than I do?” The novel also makes it clear that Arati is not a lesbian by her natural orientation and has got into a relationship merely because she and Kala are childhood friends. In fact, Begum Jan of *Lihaaf* too does not seem to be a natural lesbian. She becomes one because of her loneliness resulting from the neglect shown by her husband who seems to be fond of young boys. Loneliness seems to be the main problem of Kala too. The way Asha Sahay questions and negates male hegemony, discards the institution of marriage and portrays the intimate bonding between two female lovers is unparalleled in the annals of Hindi literature. However, it speaks volumes about the prevailing ideological ethos in the world of Hindi literature and academia that the novel is virtually unknown to this day. Keywords: Titled Kamukta, Pornography aur Streevad, Ismat Chughtai, same sex
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g_b What Tim Cook is telling Singapore and India
A piece by me in response to Tim Cook's coming out: Will Singapore, India continue to disregard LGBT rights? Will Singapore, India continue to disregard LGBT rights? As multinationals become quiet advocates for equal rights for LGBTs how long will investment and technology hungry countries like India and Singapore continue to di... View on blogs.economictimes... Preview by Yahoo
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g_b Soon the day will break ... Press on!
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g_b The Great Aryan Gene And Rapes In India (Satire)
http://secularhumanistindia.wordpress.com/2014/11/03/the-great-aryan-gene-and-rapes-in-india-satire/ The Great Aryan Gene And Rapes In India (Satire) [image: rapes] https://secularhumanistindia.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/rapes.jpgWhat really is the cause of rape in India? Why do women in middle east have to be in burqa? How does wearing jeans causes men to rape women? Or for that matter eating chowmein? Or use of Cellphone by women? Is it really about power or is it about depravity and frustration? Do Aryan (I use it as a substitute word for patriarchal, women subjugator men from middle east to cow-belt of India) men really find women in tight clothing tempting? Is that why burka has to be a blackhole through which even light cannot pass? Or for that matter a never-ending saree? Why do Aryans have fascination for young chicks as old as infants? What is the hidden message behind all these? Here’s my hypothesis for it and it’s a shocker. A careful study of all the markers indicate that most of these Aryan men are closet homosexuals. Yes, you heard it right. They are all closet homosexuals. All Aryan men want is that men must be segregated from women since childhood and be made to move around only with boys. They are encouraged to put arms around each other’s shoulders, hold hands, touch body parts, tell dirty jokes, play and have fun together. Not only this but they tempt other men by showing off their bare chests and nipples openly. Aryan men take pride in talking about length of their schlongs with each other often giggling like women. Women for them are the door to hell because door to heaven is through man’s backside, for them. Look at the poses these Aryan men strike in Khaki knickers. Case in point is Nitin Gadkari’s famous cross-legged stance copying Sharon Stone from Basic Instinct. Ah! Those unshaven chubby thighs can make any Aryan man go weak in the knees. They want to hold them, caress them, kiss them and ravish them while imagining eating chowmein making slurping sounds. Women must be covered up not because a candy must be wrapped in a wrapper, but because she’s not needed. Her face, her body must be hidden from the view of Aryan men who only and only want to see other men around them. Such is their love for men. [image: Nitin Gadkari in famous crossed legged pose from Basic Instinct] https://secularhumanistindia.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/sharon.jpg Nitin Gadkari in famous crossed legged pose from Basic Instinct But then why do they rape women, if they hate them so much? First of all it’s not hatred of women but love for men, that is looked upon as hatred for the other. Women are just unwanted in this Aryan worldview. Much like cows. So they must be separated from men, hidden from view, made to believe they aren’t human, eliminated and be done with so that in utopian Aryan world there are only M4M. But still, how can they get around to touching a female body if they feel so disgusted with it? That’s complicated. It’s more about powerlessness than about power. It’s also about martyr complex out of frustration and depravity. The society because of women has evolved to a point that M2M relationships are looked down upon and these Aryan men can’t openly profess their love for other men. This leads to depravity and frustration and hence they go on a jihad to rape the living daylights out of a woman by compromising with their ethical values. What they hope to achieve is that the raped woman will never forget the treatment meted out to her and will refuse to bond with any man in future again thus letting his future male mates solely for Aryan men. And this ploy of Aryan men has succeeded to a point. So, why the fascination for young chicks? It’s a two-pronged strategy. One to make her bear as many sons so that you have more of your tribe. And two, the same as the last one. To inflict pain as early as possible to render her useless for any other man in future and thus saving other men by sacrificing yourself. Female feticide and infanticide is part of the same strategy. And cellphones? What’s that got to do with it? Because cellphones vibrate, letting women have cellphones is surely going to tempt them to tempt men to lead them astray taking them away from other men and this can’t be allowed. [image: homo] https://secularhumanistindia.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/homo.jpg Violence by Aryan men is nothing but fashion parade where they strut around just like women model in bikinis, only to impress upon other men to raise their testosterone levels. Rape is more of a message to other Aryan men to not dare betray their homosexuality. In the end, I have only one message for boisterous and yet shy Aryan men, that to request them to come out of the closet and watch the world embrace you with love. Say no to hiding, anymore. You have suffered enough. Only you can put a stop to this rape culture. Come out and be a proud homosexual. Let this be your last conquest.
g_b Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific
An article that really should be read to alert us to the threat that these ex-gay organisations might pose to use in India. As this article notes, because they are facing a dead end in places like Australia they are shifting their focus to places like India. And far from providing just an individual focused service, they are actively contributing to the rise of institutional homophobia. This will not come as a surprise to many of us. We have got hints of this over the years. I think there was a case when someone from Exodus International came to NLS in Bangalore and was confronted by activists. The participation of evangelical groups like Apostolic Churches Alliance among the petitioners against the Delhi High Court verdict in the Supreme Court also hinted at this kind of support, though groups like these might be trying to cover their traces in order to prevent exposure of this international lobbying - even as they accuse lgbt groups of being funded by international lobbies. We need to be alert for these efforts and try to expose them. So please make note of the names involved here - Ron Brookman, Living Waters Australia, On Eagles Wings to Asia, Exodus Asia Pacific, Shirley Baskett - and publicise their involvement if you come across it. And for real evidence of how twisted and harmful these people are, don't just read the story, but also the extensive discussion in the comments after it. Vikram Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific The country’s final gay conversion ministry closed last weekend. Now the same pastors are taking their mission overseas. View on www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au Preview by Yahoo from The Saturday Paper: Australia's anti-gay churches shift focus to Asia Pacific Luke Williams The country’s final gay conversion ministry closed last weekend. Now the same pastors are taking their mission overseas. The little group met last Saturday at Ramsgate Community Church, on the southern flank of Sydney. Attendance at the service was by invitation only. Guests were asked to sign confidentiality agreements, assuring they would not discuss what was said inside. This was the final meeting of the country’s last remaining gay conversion ministry, Living Waters Australia. In a letter to followers issued a few weeks earlier, long-time director Ron Brookman confided that he had been unable to find anyone willing to take up the running of his ministry, and that he sensed God telling him it was “time to wind up”. He blamed a change in Christian culture over the past decade, deficiencies in his own leadership, and changing views on how to “bring healing to the broken”. “Wholesome heterosexuality alone reflects God’s image,” wrote Brookman, who believes the healing power of Jesus Christ eliminated his own homosexual desires. “Though society resists this and is abandoning Godly moral foundations, God’s truth will prevail.” On the other side of Sydney, on the second floor of a Darlinghurst pub, a soft-voiced man named Anthony Venn-Brown stood and spoke. “The trauma, the grief … some of us have taken our own lives because of these ‘change is possible’ programs,” the former ex-gay ministry member said. “Many of us sit here today knowing we too have been to those dark places, where we thought about taking our own lives. And some of us here today know we have tried it.” This event was supposed to be a celebration, marking the end of the Living Waters ministry and the so-called “ex-gay movement” in Australia, but the mood was positively sombre. “It’s not when we first go to these gay conversion programs that does the damage,” Venn-Brown continued. “It’s in the months that follow … Every time we wake up and think about another man we are tormented. You feel like a failure, you feel evil. It’s living out those moments every single day which eventually drives people to suicide.” Living Waters Australia had its heyday in the 1990s when, along with Exodus International, it had popular weekly workshops and programs in all major cities. It also outsourced its material, which meant many local churches ran Living Waters programs for people who sought pastoral advice on same-sex attraction. Conducted like Alcoholics Anonymous but for unwanted homosexual attraction – with support groups, counselling sessions, ex-gay testimonies and prayer meetings – the ministry built itself on messages of grace and salvation. It appealed to shy Christian men, mainly Baptists, Presbyterians and Pentecostals. In recent times, however, Living Waters had been reduced to a trickle. Just two or three social support groups were operating, in middle-ring suburbs in Melbourne and Sydney. They were often frequented by fewer than half a dozen men, many of whom didn’t stick around for long. Brookman spoke to The Saturday Paper after his final thanksgiving service in
g_b Striking the wrong note...
Striking the wrong note... * Salacious, prurient, insensitive - that is the yellow journalism practiced by much of the media when it reports on gays. * The latest case is a good illustration, says VIKRAM JOHRI Posted/Updated Saturday, Nov 01 12:53:29, 2014 In June, a lesbian committed suicide in Chhattisgarh. The act received only cursory coverage, perhaps because the story was from a state that does not normally hit the radar of gay rights. When I searched Google News for lesbian suicide India, links from 2011 and earlier showed up. (Rest assured, if it is a dastardly event, the chances it happened earlier in India are high.) There was only one link to the story, in the June 16 Raipur edition of the *Times of India*. A 22-year-old woman from Pakhanjur tehsil in Kanker district, who was in a relationship with an allegedly minor girl, had committed suicide. Following the news of her death, her partner also tried to kill herself by consuming poison, the report added. Apart from this news report, the only other mention of the Chhattisgarh story was in a review in *Mint *of a film about lesbians. Perhaps it is no bad thing that the woman’s suicide or the many other permutations of violence that visit gay people in India do not receive much media coverage. For, when the media does deign to report on gay issues, it is marked by a regrettable lack of sensitivity, making one wonder if homosexuality, that famed “last prejudice”, is organically such a different beast that it is impossible to report or write or speak truly about it unless one is born to it. This week brought a fresh example of this malaise. The headline of the top story of the *Bangalore Mirror *dated Oct 29, 2014, said: Section 377 slapped on Infosys techie after wife catches his gay acts on spycam. The first paragraph read: Lip gloss, foundation, innerwear in 'girlie' patterns and colours, and a passion for all things pink - these are just some of the traits that set off alarm bells in a dentist's head, almost a year after marriage, that her husband could be gay. Examine the language. This is the same paper whose sister publication in Mumbai peeped into Deepika Padukone's cleavage and found newsworthy material. From the first sentence, there is a desire to turn the story into a narrative - the gay man with a fetish for pink - as the writer watches over the reader's shoulder to induce the appropriate gasp here, the disgusted look there. The words, so carefully chosen to fashion the image of a man thoroughly compromised, tell us what to think before we have had the chance to learn the first detail of the case. To be sure, there are no easy answers in these cases but we rarely see even the relevant questions being raised in the media. There is, for example, no discussion on the irony of applying a law to those who have been forced to stay in the closet because of the law itself. All the media does is report with an eye for prurience. Details of how the marriage broke, the lack of sexual compatibility, the queer habits of the man, are all regurgitated in an effort not to capture a personal tragedy but to arouse the reader's base instincts. Consider another case. The death of Chetan Bharadwaj, an advertising executive in Mumbai, last year was strikingly similar to that of Pushkin Chandra in Delhi in 2004. Both Pushkin and Chetan were affluent, upper middle class men living in metros. They were also gay. The dead bodies of both were discovered naked. Reports indicated they were under the influence of alcohol at the time of death. They had also had sex moments before their deaths which, in both cases, were violent and brutal. There were other similarities. The murderers in both cases were slum dwellers, or labourers. In Pushkin’s case, they were men he had come across on the street. In Chetan’s case, the murderer was a glass worker whom Chetan had met when he came to work in his housing society. Contrast these murders with the lesbian’s suicide in Chhattisgarh. The same media which failed to report the latter went to town with Chetan’s death. (Pushkin’s occurred in a strikingly different media environment ten years ago, and so its coverage does not really count.) The gory details of how he was killed, what his daily itinerary was, etc., were discussed threadbare by nearly all the Mumbai English dailies. There was a tendency, as has been the case with the reportage on the Infosys employee’s arrest, to rob the story of context. The supposed liberality that the intellectual crowd reserves for alternative sexualities is exposed for its hollowness when the debate shifts to something as final and conclusive as murder. Where are we to go from here? One place is social media, where gay men have erupted in a storm of protest about the language and style adopted in the Bangalore Mirror story. Such spaces also allow debate and discussions, whose outcomes are important to those fighting the battle against Section 377. One
