subject:"Re\: \[Geany\] Wiki\?"

 Please dont't. I don't want to have every page looks different.  If you
 really want to have fixed size, you can use e.g. a firefox plugin to
 have some local css for a namespace.


Its not me who is reading it, why do you want to make the wiki harder
for users to read unless they have some firefox only plugin?

If you really are so emphatic that all pages must look exactly the
same then limit the width for all pages, but I would rather sensibly
consider what is most suitable for each page.

Cheers
Lex

 Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-03 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 03.06.2011 09:38, schrieb Lex Trotman:
 Please dont't. I don't want to have every page looks different.  If you
 really want to have fixed size, you can use e.g. a firefox plugin to
 have some local css for a namespace.

 
 Its not me who is reading it, why do you want to make the wiki harder
 for users to read unless they have some firefox only plugin?

All I want is to keep style/layout be splitted from content.

 If you really are so emphatic that all pages must look exactly the
 same then limit the width for all pages, but I would rather sensibly
 consider what is most suitable for each page.

From a design view it would make sense to limit it for every page, but
done on a global css level. Using a little number of different templates
might would also make sense. BUT: I'd like to avoid individual styles on
each page as user's expectations will be some common look and feel on
whole wiki.

However, will concentrate in content now :)

Cheers,
Frank


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 From a design view it would make sense to limit it for every page, but
 done on a global css level. Using a little number of different templates
 might would also make sense. BUT: I'd like to avoid individual styles on
 each page as user's expectations will be some common look and feel on
 whole wiki.


Hi Frank,

To do it for all pages I think all Enrico has to do is create a
conf/userstyle.css (see http://www.dokuwiki.org/devel:css#user_styles)
containing body { max-width:40em}

I would agree that limiting styles to just a few defined templates
would be good, thats what I originally wanted to do, but as the reply
to Enrico pointed out, dokuwiki does not allow you to have different
style templates for different parts of the site, the namespace
templates can contain content only, thats why I was looking for
alternate options that didn't open up the HTML risks.

I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree on how
permissive a wiki should be.  My feeling is that the point of a wiki
is to be open to a variety of contents so it should be more permissive
rather than less, especially since as a community we haven't had much
experience with what is better.

Contributors are registered, changes can be reverted and the Geany
community is mostly trustworthy so why not see what happens rather
than lock everything down at the first thing we thought of.  Also if
contributors can't see what different things look like then how are
they to experiment with possible improvements to the style?

 However, will concentrate in content now :)


I will also try to get the images in the build document this weekend,
although the weather looks good and the boss has a long list of
outside jobs, so we'll have to see ;-)

Cheers
Lex
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-03 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 03.06.2011 10:56, schrieb Lex Trotman:
 I will also try to get the images in the build document this weekend,

You could also send the to me via direct mail and I can do the upload if
needed.

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On 3 June 2011 19:27, Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:
 Am 03.06.2011 10:56, schrieb Lex Trotman:
 I will also try to get the images in the build document this weekend,

 You could also send the to me via direct mail and I can do the upload if
 needed.

The problem is getting time when I have access to the right machine to
take the screenshots, I hope Matthew has sorted out the uploading now
:-).  But otherwise will take up your offer, thanks.

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-03 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 18:56:19 +1000, Lex wrote:

 From a design view it would make sense to limit it for every page,
 but done on a global css level. Using a little number of different
 templates might would also make sense. BUT: I'd like to avoid
 individual styles on each page as user's expectations will be some
 common look and feel on whole wiki.


Hi Frank,

To do it for all pages I think all Enrico has to do is create a
conf/userstyle.css (see http://www.dokuwiki.org/devel:css#user_styles)
containing body { max-width:40em}

Done so.
But it looks weird, 40em is too few I'd say:

https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground


I installed the wrap plugin anyway (in the Geany wiki). If you want,
play around with it, even at the risk Frank will hate us :).
Seriously, we could at least try what's possible and then decide
whether we want this or not.
In general, I share Frank's opinion of a common layout and style across
the wiki however in this particular case I also see the benefit of a
custom max-width for the page.


I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree on how
permissive a wiki should be.  My feeling is that the point of a wiki
is to be open to a variety of contents so it should be more permissive
rather than less, especially since as a community we haven't had much
experience with what is better.

Contributors are registered, changes can be reverted and the Geany
community is mostly trustworthy so why not see what happens rather
than lock everything down at the first thing we thought of.  Also if
contributors can't see what different things look like then how are
they to experiment with possible improvements to the style?

I agree.
New users now automaticallly get into the user group and so can edit,
create and delete pages and upload files.
For each change, I get a notification mail currently. Alternatively,
everyone can subscribe to the wiki via RSS and so get also notified
about changes.

Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

 Done so.
 But it looks weird, 40em is too few I'd say:

 https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground

Yes, the 40em seems to include the sidebar, so it would need to be wider.



 I installed the wrap plugin anyway (in the Geany wiki). If you want,
 play around with it, even at the risk Frank will hate us :).
 Seriously, we could at least try what's possible and then decide
 whether we want this or not.
 In general, I share Frank's opinion of a common layout and style across
 the wiki however in this particular case I also see the benefit of a
 custom max-width for the page.


As an experiment I set the width to a reasonable number.  I don't
think it makes the page stand out as different.

The only problem is that acronyms break headings, I think because the
plugin doesn't prevent the acronym substitution in headings that the
normal docuwiki does.

The simple solution I have taken is to remove the acronyms (including
Geany) in the headings but its something to note when adding new
ones..

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-03 Thread Matthew Brush


On 06/03/11 00:38, Lex Trotman wrote:

Please dont't. I don't want to have every page looks different.  If you
really want to have fixed size, you can use e.g. a firefox plugin to
have some local css for a namespace.



+1



Its not me who is reading it, why do you want to make the wiki harder
for users to read unless they have some firefox only plugin?

If you really are so emphatic that all pages must look exactly the
same then limit the width for all pages, but I would rather sensibly
consider what is most suitable for each page.



Naw, it's bad enough having some pages not take up the full available 
screen space let alone all of them.  Wasn't it you in the A new look 
thread who was quite strongly against wasting your resolution by using a 
fixed width?  IMHO, having one page not fill the available screen space 
is weird.


I guess I can just use the wiki with the Firefox page styles turned off, 
but it looks really plain like this.


Cheers,
Matthew Brush
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 Naw, it's bad enough having some pages not take up the full available screen
 space let alone all of them.  Wasn't it you in the A new look thread who
 was quite strongly against wasting your resolution by using a fixed width?
  IMHO, having one page not fill the available screen space is weird.


Hi Matthew,

Nice try at using my previous posts against me :-) but...

But you will find I was arguing against a fixed size in pixels.

But you will find I also pointed out that large blocks of text should
not exceed a reasonable length which is a size in characters, ie em.
To re-quote the w3c guidelines, blocks of text in web pages should be:

1.4.8 Visual Presentation: For the visual presentation of blocks of
text, a mechanism is available to achieve the following: (Level AAA)

1.  Foreground and background colors can be selected by the user.

2.  Width is no more than 80 characters or glyphs (40 if CJK).

3.  Text is not justified (aligned to both the left and the right margins).

4.  Line spacing (leading) is at least space-and-a-half within
paragraphs, and paragraph spacing is at least 1.5 times larger than
the line spacing.

5.  Text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent
in a way that does not require the user to scroll horizontally to read
a line of text on a full-screen window.

 I guess I can just use the wiki with the Firefox page styles turned off, but
 it looks really plain like this.


Comments about babies and bathwater come to mind :-)

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On 4 June 2011 05:29, Jonathan Daily biomathjda...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a custom filetype for the sage [1] mathematics language,
 conveniently built on python, that I was hoping to put into the wiki.
 Would this be something that should go into the wiki, and if so,
 where?


Hi Jonathan,

That sounds like a good addition.

I'm not sure where it fits in the current arrangement.  Perhaps we
need a general configuration section.  I don't think we will get
enough custom filetypes to justify a section just on that.

WHat do others think?

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

Enrico and all,

Is anyone else having trouble with preview when editing pages?
Sometimes (and I can't determine when) when asking for a preview the
sidebar overwrites the edit window and disables the save button.  So I
have had to do recent changes by saving and seeing what it looks like
(sorry to spam you Enrico and anyone else subscribed for
notifications).

This problem happens on playground as well as the build menu page but
I don't think as often (document size?).

Using firefox 3.6.17.

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-02 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:42:28 +1000, Lex wrote:

 For a direct comparism, I pasted your text into another wiki to see
 how it looks with the Vector template:

 https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground


Now you've done it!!

On my monitor the lines are on average 30 words wide, way too much,
way hard to read.

But it also pointed out a BIG problem with the dodgie er doogie
template, its set the text to 90% of the users chosen font size.  What
a bunch of arrogant [complex scatological string of expletives
deleted] the designers are, why can't they respect my font choice, how
do they know what my monitor resolution is and how good my eyes are?
Do they expect me to change the font choice every time I swap to their
tab in the browser?
/rant I feel better now. :-)

/me hopes you'll never read CSS he wrote...


In which case I also think vector is ok.

Ok, so I switched back to the Vector template.
I guess we could with this based on the feedback so far.


As I read the docuwiki manual it allows individual pages to have local
templates, so I'm not saying that all pages need to have the width
limited, just those that are mainly text.

Any reference?

Regards,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-06-02 Thread Lex Trotman

/rant I feel better now. :-)

 /me hopes you'll never read CSS he wrote...


Sadly I already did, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt that it
might be program generated and the server squashed whitespace.


In which case I also think vector is ok.

 Ok, so I switched back to the Vector template.
 I guess we could with this based on the feedback so far.


As I read the docuwiki manual it allows individual pages to have local
templates, so I'm not saying that all pages need to have the width
limited, just those that are mainly text.

 Any reference?

I didn't read it fully did I, page templates can only have content,
not style :-(

But the wrap plugin looks like it allows width to be set in the page
markup, could you install it when you get a chance. (it also allows a
number of other htmly things without the risks of allowing raw html)

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:56:20 +1000, Lex wrote:

Did you find any template that limits the max-width?

 The only one I found and which looks okish is:
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/template:doogie

 It's currently running on our wiki. It feels more like a blog layout
 than a wiki but maybe this is jjust because of the top navigation
 buttons instead of a sidebar.
 Is this better?
 The actual width of the page can surely be changed easily via CSS.


Ah, I missed that one.  Only thing missing seems to be sitemap when
not logged in, the only way of finding the newsletter stuff is via its
tag (or search).

I have converted the build system guide to docuwiki (sigh, just as
annoying as I expected) but haven't had time to make the images yet. I
added it with a howto tag and build and configure tags.

For a direct comparism, I pasted your text into another wiki to see how
it looks with the Vector template:

https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-31 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/6/1 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:56:20 +1000, Lex wrote:

Did you find any template that limits the max-width?

 The only one I found and which looks okish is:
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/template:doogie

 It's currently running on our wiki. It feels more like a blog layout
 than a wiki but maybe this is jjust because of the top navigation
 buttons instead of a sidebar.
 Is this better?
 The actual width of the page can surely be changed easily via CSS.


Ah, I missed that one.  Only thing missing seems to be sitemap when
not logged in, the only way of finding the newsletter stuff is via its
tag (or search).

I have converted the build system guide to docuwiki (sigh, just as
annoying as I expected) but haven't had time to make the images yet. I
added it with a howto tag and build and configure tags.

 For a direct comparism, I pasted your text into another wiki to see how
 it looks with the Vector template:

 https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground


 Regards,
 Enrico


Between these two I much prefer the Vector template's layout because:
(1) I think it looks cleaner and more professional;
(2) useful links such as Printable version and the Search input box
are clearly visible. The Doogie template has almost none of this, with
the Search input box at the very bottom of the page.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Wed, 1 Jun 2011 07:36:21 +1000, Russell wrote:

2011/6/1 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Tue, 31 May 2011 10:56:20 +1000, Lex wrote:

Did you find any template that limits the max-width?

 The only one I found and which looks okish is:
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/template:doogie

 It's currently running on our wiki. It feels more like a blog
 layout than a wiki but maybe this is jjust because of the top
 navigation buttons instead of a sidebar.
 Is this better?
 The actual width of the page can surely be changed easily via CSS.


Ah, I missed that one.  Only thing missing seems to be sitemap when
not logged in, the only way of finding the newsletter stuff is via
its tag (or search).

I have converted the build system guide to docuwiki (sigh, just as
annoying as I expected) but haven't had time to make the images yet.
I added it with a howto tag and build and configure tags.

 For a direct comparism, I pasted your text into another wiki to see
 how it looks with the Vector template:

 https://tiwtr.uvena.de/wiki/playground


 Regards,
 Enrico


Between these two I much prefer the Vector template's layout because:
(1) I think it looks cleaner and more professional;
(2) useful links such as Printable version and the Search input box
are clearly visible. The Doogie template has almost none of this, with
the Search input box at the very bottom of the page.

Similar here.
The Doogie template has the advantage of a fixed max-width which Lex
wants. Basically, we could add the missing meta links to the Doogie
template by hacking them into it. But this reduces maintenability of
course.

However, I don't want to make the decision about which template to use,
I'd just like to configure the one you chose :).
For me, the content is more important and I just don't know not enough
about web design and all the criteria about usability and accessibility
and all these things.


Regards,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 31 May 2011 12:48:40 +1000, Lex wrote:

 I guess if they were just tags, then just using regular tags related
 to the topic would be good, but since there's some arbitrary link
 between tags and the page navigation (haven't figured it out yet),
 maybe it needs to be consistent?

IIUC (which may not be the case :-) the navigation stuff (shown as
tabs on the current template) comes from namespaces, ie pages with
names foo:bar:thepage name.  This is a docuwiki builtin.

Summary pages like howtos and snippets use the respective tags and a
plugin to generate the pages.  This plugin also generates the tagcloud

Correct.
Currently, the howtos index page is just a generated list based on the
tags of the subpages.
I don't think this is the best approach, more than a curious test how
it works :).
Probably it's best to write normal index pages by hand or look for a
plugin which generates a proper index for a subnamespace.
Again, the tag based index page isn't really good in general, I think.


 Also, is there a better way for navigation than tags or however it
 works now?  I found it very unintuitive to get a page listed in
 whatever the navigation part is using.  Maybe there's a plugin that
 does a TOC (besides sitemap) based on links or something.

See above. I agree on not using the tag stuff for index pages.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 31 May 2011 23:42:58 +0200, Enrico wrote:

One addition:


Between these two I much prefer the Vector template's layout because:
(1) I think it looks cleaner and more professional;
(2) useful links such as Printable version and the Search input box
are clearly visible. The Doogie template has almost none of this, with
the Search input box at the very bottom of the page.

(3) the top navigation tabs can only be changed/configured by editing a
PHP file, it's not changeable in the wiki itself. The Vector template
implements the sidebar as a normal wiki page and so it can be edited by
anyone who is granted to (ACL) not only by the few guys who have access
to the server's filesystem.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-31 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/6/1 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Tue, 31 May 2011 23:42:58 +0200, Enrico wrote:

 One addition:


Between these two I much prefer the Vector template's layout because:
(1) I think it looks cleaner and more professional;
(2) useful links such as Printable version and the Search input box
are clearly visible. The Doogie template has almost none of this, with
the Search input box at the very bottom of the page.

 (3) the top navigation tabs can only be changed/configured by editing a
 PHP file, it's not changeable in the wiki itself. The Vector template
 implements the sidebar as a normal wiki page and so it can be edited by
 anyone who is granted to (ACL) not only by the few guys who have access
 to the server's filesystem.


 Regards,
 Enrico


Personally I'd consider this a big PLUS in favour of the Vector
template. Requiring someone who might maintain the wiki's layout to
have access to the web server's file system is surely a risk.

In short I really don't like the Doogie template because of the
reasons I've mentioned above, also the fact that the colours used in
the banner/header make it difficult to read, also too bold. The focus
of a wiki should be its content, not a big banner at the top of the
page that looks ugly (IMHO :) ).


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-30 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 30.05.2011 00:40, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:12:38 +0200, Enrico wrote:
 
 On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:59:29 +1000, Russell wrote:

 2011/5/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

 On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

 Hey guys,


 I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
 because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

 I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
 Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for
 now I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike
 3.0 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
 your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up
 instantly. So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune
 it to our needs.

 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

 Regards,
 Enrico


 Regarding the template for the wiki, I just browsed the gallery of
 Dokuwiki templates and quite like this one:
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/template%3Avector. It's very similar to the
 default template but looks a little smoother.

 I think it looks quite like MediaWiki but I don't mind.
 No objections here.
 
 I just changed the template to Arctic [1]. I like it though this is
 more or less just to test it, it's not a final decision. I'd like to
 get some more feedback about the template question.
 
 Unfortunately, the author of the Arctic template won't maintain it
 anymore in the future but since it seems to be widely on the net, maybe
 someone else will continue maintaining it.
 I like that it has a sidebar which is quite flexible. At the moment, I
 just put a simple list of the categories in it as a simple navigation.
 Though we could change it later.
 
 And again, this is just a test, I'd also be ok with the Vector template.

Personally I don't like this theme very much but don't care ;D and maybe
some of the CSS/HTML experts could build up our own template.

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-30 Thread Lex Trotman

 I guess if they were just tags, then just using regular tags related to the
 topic would be good, but since there's some arbitrary link between tags and
 the page navigation (haven't figured it out yet), maybe it needs to be
 consistent?

IIUC (which may not be the case :-) the navigation stuff (shown as
tabs on the current template) comes from namespaces, ie pages with
names foo:bar:thepage name.  This is a docuwiki builtin.

Summary pages like howtos and snippets use the respective tags and a
plugin to generate the pages.  This plugin also generates the tagcloud
on the front page. Add tags by {{tagspace separated list of tags}}
which will tag the page with space, separated, list, of and tags :-)


 Also, is there a better way for navigation than tags or however it works
 now?  I found it very unintuitive to get a page listed in whatever the
 navigation part is using.  Maybe there's a plugin that does a TOC (besides
 sitemap) based on links or something.


Maybe you just need to try again with this new info (assuming I'm right?)


Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-30 Thread Lex Trotman

One thing that I did notice with the WIki is that playground seems to
be readonly, even if logged in ??

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-29 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:12:38 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:59:29 +1000, Russell wrote:

2011/5/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for
 now I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike
 3.0 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
 your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up
 instantly. So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune
 it to our needs.

 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

 Regards,
 Enrico


Regarding the template for the wiki, I just browsed the gallery of
Dokuwiki templates and quite like this one:
http://www.dokuwiki.org/template%3Avector. It's very similar to the
default template but looks a little smoother.

I think it looks quite like MediaWiki but I don't mind.
No objections here.

I just changed the template to Arctic [1]. I like it though this is
more or less just to test it, it's not a final decision. I'd like to
get some more feedback about the template question.

Unfortunately, the author of the Arctic template won't maintain it
anymore in the future but since it seems to be widely on the net, maybe
someone else will continue maintaining it.
I like that it has a sidebar which is quite flexible. At the moment, I
just put a simple list of the categories in it as a simple navigation.
Though we could change it later.

And again, this is just a test, I'd also be ok with the Vector template.


[1] http://www.dokuwiki.org/template:arctic


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-29 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/5/30 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:12:38 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:59:29 +1000, Russell wrote:

2011/5/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for
 now I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike
 3.0 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
 your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up
 instantly. So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune
 it to our needs.

 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

 Regards,
 Enrico


Regarding the template for the wiki, I just browsed the gallery of
Dokuwiki templates and quite like this one:
http://www.dokuwiki.org/template%3Avector. It's very similar to the
default template but looks a little smoother.

I think it looks quite like MediaWiki but I don't mind.
No objections here.

 I just changed the template to Arctic [1]. I like it though this is
 more or less just to test it, it's not a final decision. I'd like to
 get some more feedback about the template question.

 Unfortunately, the author of the Arctic template won't maintain it
 anymore in the future but since it seems to be widely on the net, maybe
 someone else will continue maintaining it.
 I like that it has a sidebar which is quite flexible. At the moment, I
 just put a simple list of the categories in it as a simple navigation.
 Though we could change it later.

 And again, this is just a test, I'd also be ok with the Vector template.


 [1] http://www.dokuwiki.org/template:arctic


 Regards,
 Enrico


Between the two my preference would be for Vector but based on its
appearance. If the Arctic template is no longer maintained we may get
into problems with browser compatibility between it and this may
distract us from the wiki itself. Aside from that though, I don't
mind.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-29 Thread Lex Trotman

 I just changed the template to Arctic [1]. I like it though this is
 more or less just to test it, it's not a final decision. I'd like to
 get some more feedback about the template question.

 Unfortunately, the author of the Arctic template won't maintain it
 anymore in the future but since it seems to be widely on the net, maybe
 someone else will continue maintaining it.
 I like that it has a sidebar which is quite flexible. At the moment, I
 just put a simple list of the categories in it as a simple navigation.
 Though we could change it later.

Yes, organisation is better and sidebar is better.  Don't like it
being unmaintained though.  The docuwiki template library seems to
list a version that templates are compatible with, does this mean that
templates have to be updated each time docuwiki is upgraded?


 And again, this is just a test, I'd also be ok with the Vector template.


Looks suspiciously like the Geany website, thats why you like it? :-D

Did you find any template that limits the max-width?

Cheers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-29 Thread Matthew Brush


On 05/29/11 15:40, Enrico Tröger wrote:


I just changed the template to Arctic [1]. I like it though this is
more or less just to test it, it's not a final decision. I'd like to
get some more feedback about the template question.


It's nicer than the default for sure.



And again, this is just a test, I'd also be ok with the Vector template.



Vector, Monobook or any of the other ones that look like MediaWiki are 
nice since they have more familiar layouts and appearances to people 
used to the most common wikis like Wikipedia.


My $0.02

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-27 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 27.05.2011 09:54, schrieb Lex Trotman:
 I'm not sure how that would work with file templates, since the 'real'
  filename is unknown at the time it's created, unless I misunderstand. Maybe
  better would be to make a litte Add-on plugin: 'Insert Header' or similar.
 IIRC the proposal was to substitute {filename} or {FILENAME} on saveas

Well, I guess ths should be discussed on geany-dev.

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 Hi,
 
 I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki documentation
 talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image (screenshot) into a
 page I just created.
 
 I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?  Or am I
 missing something?

You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a button -
screenshot.

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Matthew Brush


On 05/25/11 23:52, Frank Lanitz wrote:

Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:

Hi,

I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki documentation
talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image (screenshot) into a
page I just created.

I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?  Or am I
missing something?


You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a button -
screenshot.


Have you tried it?

I'm using that button which opens the media manager where you're 
supposed to be able to upload images but I see no options for this.  See 
screenshot.


Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 26.05.2011 08:53, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 05/25/11 23:52, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 Hi,

 I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki documentation
 talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image (screenshot) into a
 page I just created.

 I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?  Or am I
 missing something?

 You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a button -
 screenshot.
 
 Have you tried it?

Yepp. See http://wiki.geany.org/start ;)

 I'm using that button which opens the media manager where you're
 supposed to be able to upload images but I see no options for this.  See
 screenshot.

Not sure what's not working there. Did you turn off some JS or
something? I was trying it on Firefox 4 at Win7 but I'm sure it should
be working also on other browsers/plattforms.

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Matthew Brush


On 05/26/11 00:10, Frank Lanitz wrote:

Am 26.05.2011 08:53, schrieb Matthew Brush:

On 05/25/11 23:52, Frank Lanitz wrote:

Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:

Hi,

I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki documentation
talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image (screenshot) into a
page I just created.

I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?  Or am I
missing something?


You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a button -
screenshot.


Have you tried it?


Yepp. See http://wiki.geany.org/start ;)


I'm using that button which opens the media manager where you're
supposed to be able to upload images but I see no options for this.  See
screenshot.


Not sure what's not working there. Did you turn off some JS or
something? I was trying it on Firefox 4 at Win7 but I'm sure it should
be working also on other browsers/plattforms.


Firefox prefs say JS is enabled and doesn't work in stock Epiphany 
either ... weird.  Is it just a standard HTML upload form or some type 
of Java/Flash Applet?  I don't know if I have Java installed but I know 
Flash is.


Cheers,
Matthew Brush
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 26.05.2011 10:22, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 05/26/11 00:10, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Am 26.05.2011 08:53, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 05/25/11 23:52, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 Hi,

 I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki documentation
 talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image (screenshot) into a
 page I just created.

 I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?  Or
 am I
 missing something?

 You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a
 button -
 screenshot.

 Have you tried it?

 Yepp. See http://wiki.geany.org/start ;)

 I'm using that button which opens the media manager where you're
 supposed to be able to upload images but I see no options for this.  See
 screenshot.

 Not sure what's not working there. Did you turn off some JS or
 something? I was trying it on Firefox 4 at Win7 but I'm sure it should
 be working also on other browsers/plattforms.
 
 Firefox prefs say JS is enabled and doesn't work in stock Epiphany
 either ... weird.  Is it just a standard HTML upload form or some type
 of Java/Flash Applet?  I don't know if I have Java installed but I know
 Flash is.

I don't see any rocket science inside this page. Weird.

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:40:51 +0200, Frank wrote:

Am 26.05.2011 10:22, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 05/26/11 00:10, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Am 26.05.2011 08:53, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 On 05/25/11 23:52, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Am 25.05.2011 23:54, schrieb Matthew Brush:
 Hi,

 I can't seem to find the upload form that the Docuwiki
 documentation talks about[1].  I would like to insert an image
 (screenshot) into a page I just created.

 I guess maybe the Wiki isn't configured properly to allow this?
 Or am I
 missing something?

 You could do it by using the edit page function and there is a
 button -
 screenshot.

 Have you tried it?

 Yepp. See http://wiki.geany.org/start ;)

 I'm using that button which opens the media manager where you're
 supposed to be able to upload images but I see no options for
 this.  See screenshot.

 Not sure what's not working there. Did you turn off some JS or
 something? I was trying it on Firefox 4 at Win7 but I'm sure it
 should be working also on other browsers/plattforms.
 
 Firefox prefs say JS is enabled and doesn't work in stock Epiphany
 either ... weird.  Is it just a standard HTML upload form or some
 type of Java/Flash Applet?  I don't know if I have Java installed
 but I know Flash is.

I don't see any rocket science inside this page. Weird.

/me is at fault.
Frank was in the group manager who can do edit, create, upload and
delete. The others (beside me :D) were just in the group user. And
this group only could edit and create.
Not sure what I thought when setting up the groups, I changed it so
that also user members can everything, including upload and delete.

So, Matthew could you please try again?

And please note my apologies.


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Matthew Brush


On 05/26/11 13:41, Enrico Tröger wrote:


Not sure what I thought when setting up the groups, I changed it so
that also user members can everything, including upload and delete.

So, Matthew could you please try again?


Yep, it works[1]!  Thank you.



And please note my apologies.


No worries.

Cheers,
Matthew Brush

[1] http://wiki.geany.org/snippets/c/library_headers
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Colomban Wendling

Le 27/05/2011 01:54, Matthew Brush a écrit :
 On 05/26/11 13:41, Enrico Tröger wrote:
 
 Not sure what I thought when setting up the groups, I changed it so
 that also user members can everything, including upload and delete.

 So, Matthew could you please try again?
 
 Yep, it works[1]!  Thank you.

Just for 5 minutes of Python fun, the guard generation would be better
with something like this:

'H_' + ''.join([c if c in 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789' else
'_' for c in '{filename}'.upper().rstrip('.H')])

advantages:
* handles any character in the filename (most importantly dashes)
* use H_ as a prefix rather than a suffix, to avoid possible name
clashes with error codes (theoretically all uppercase names starting
with E[A-Z] are reserved for them)


Cheers,
Colomban


PS: I'm not sure that this kind of wiki pages are the best, a more
generic stuff would perhaps be better if we end up with many snippets
examples, suggestions and stuff. I mean, a page that gives general
explanation, and an hostile snippets list, maybe with some notes.
I think it may save some reading time to the user wanting more than one.

PPS: maybe we should add some possibilities to support this with file
templates, maybe providing {NORMALIZED_FILENAME} to allow guards generation?
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Re: [Geany] Wiki Images?

2011-05-26 Thread Lex Trotman

 Just for 5 minutes of Python fun, the guard generation would be better
 with something like this:

 'H_' + ''.join([c if c in 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789' else
 '_' for c in '{filename}'.upper().rstrip('.H')])

 advantages:
 * handles any character in the filename (most importantly dashes)
 * use H_ as a prefix rather than a suffix, to avoid possible name
 clashes with error codes (theoretically all uppercase names starting
 with E[A-Z] are reserved for them)

There is also a long standing convention to use uppercase filename
with non-alphanumeric characters as _ so moving the H_ to the front
would make Geany guards non-standard.  I think despite the (very low)
possibility of clashes with error codes it would be better to leave it
the right way round as the default. The user can always hand edit if
there is a clash.


 PPS: maybe we should add some possibilities to support this with file
 templates, maybe providing {NORMALIZED_FILENAME} to allow guards generation?

There is a suggestion (lost?) somewhere in the system to add
{FILENAME} for this but no one has had the time or inclination to do
it.

Cheers
Lex
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-18 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:34:46 +1000, Ross wrote:

Yay!

Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:
 I'm not yet sure about the overall structure of the contents in the
 wiki, this we still need to work out. But you can of course create a
 page with content already if you like.

If a basic structure can be defined, it will make it easier to work out
where to go from there. I'm eager to drop in the odd bit, as are most
posters here, but I reckon a structure will help guide us somewhat.

Completely agree.
I think once we have a basic structure content will follow more easy,
i.e. contributors will start to put information in.

I thought of something like a few basic categories, in DokuWiki speech:
namespaces. Maybe something like the following:

Howtos
Tips  Tricks
Snippets
Filetype Specifics
Themes / Colors

And then fill these categories with sub-pages with actual content.
Additionally, we need a nice index page to get an overview but without
being too bloated.


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-18 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/5/19 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Wed, 18 May 2011 09:34:46 +1000, Ross wrote:

Yay!

Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:
 I'm not yet sure about the overall structure of the contents in the
 wiki, this we still need to work out. But you can of course create a
 page with content already if you like.

If a basic structure can be defined, it will make it easier to work out
where to go from there. I'm eager to drop in the odd bit, as are most
posters here, but I reckon a structure will help guide us somewhat.

 Completely agree.
 I think once we have a basic structure content will follow more easy,
 i.e. contributors will start to put information in.

 I thought of something like a few basic categories, in DokuWiki speech:
 namespaces. Maybe something like the following:

 Howtos
 Tips  Tricks
 Snippets
 Filetype Specifics
 Themes / Colors

 And then fill these categories with sub-pages with actual content.
 Additionally, we need a nice index page to get an overview but without
 being too bloated.


 Regards,
 Enrico


Enrico,

I think you're suggested structure sounds good. It's provides enough
structure to what would otherwise be a jumble of content but is simple
enough to maintain.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

Am 17.05.2011 00:04, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:51:44 +0200, Enrico wrote:
 
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

 On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

 Hey guys,


 I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
 because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

 I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
 Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for now
 I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 
 I changed it a bit:
 everyone can register but has limited access until the registration is
 approved. 

Cool, its working. Thanks ;)

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

Am 16.05.2011 23:51, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

I'd like to have a plugin to tag pages as e.g.
http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:tag is one to.

Cheers,
Frank
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Colomban Wendling

Le 16/05/2011 23:51, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

 Hey guys,

 I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
 because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

 I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
 Thanks for your patience.
 
 Here we go:
 
 http://wiki.geany.org/

Hey, good job Enrico, thanks!

Cheers,
Colomban
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Jonathan Daily

I have never contributed to a wiki before, but I would love to do so.
I use geany for R statistics on both windows and linux and have done
some things to integrate geany, R, and console2 (windows terminal
emulator) on windows. What is the proper procedure for material/guide
submission?

Thanks and HTH,
Jon

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Colomban Wendling
lists@herbesfolles.org wrote:
 Le 16/05/2011 23:51, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

 Hey guys,

 I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
 because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

 I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
 Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 Hey, good job Enrico, thanks!

 Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Jonathan Daily

I wrote an AutoHotKey script to pass text from the geany window to
either an active Rterm or the active tab of console2. I also wrote an
R script to dump functions into a space separated text file to
facilitate text highlighting for packages that I use all the time. And
finally, I wrote some snippets for R specific constructs.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de wrote:
 Am 17.05.2011 14:05, schrieb Jonathan Daily:
 I have never contributed to a wiki before, but I would love to do so.
 I use geany for R statistics on both windows and linux and have done
 some things to integrate geany, R, and console2 (windows terminal
 emulator) on windows. What is the proper procedure for material/guide
 submission?

 I think register an account on Wiki as step 0. ;)
 What do you like to contribute?


 Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:34:47 -0400, Jonathan wrote:

I wrote an AutoHotKey script to pass text from the geany window to
either an active Rterm or the active tab of console2. I also wrote an
R script to dump functions into a space separated text file to
facilitate text highlighting for packages that I use all the time. And
finally, I wrote some snippets for R specific constructs.

Great.

As Frank said, just register an account, shortly wait for approval and
then start adding a Wiki page with your tips and tricks.

I'm not yet sure about the overall structure of the contents in the
wiki, this we still need to work out. But you can of course create a
page with content already if you like.

Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:41:32 +0200, Frank wrote:

Am 16.05.2011 23:51, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

I'd like to have a plugin to tag pages as e.g.
http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:tag is one to.

Installed.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/5/18 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:34:47 -0400, Jonathan wrote:

I wrote an AutoHotKey script to pass text from the geany window to
either an active Rterm or the active tab of console2. I also wrote an
R script to dump functions into a space separated text file to
facilitate text highlighting for packages that I use all the time. And
finally, I wrote some snippets for R specific constructs.

 Great.

 As Frank said, just register an account, shortly wait for approval and
 then start adding a Wiki page with your tips and tricks.

 I'm not yet sure about the overall structure of the contents in the
 wiki, this we still need to work out. But you can of course create a
 page with content already if you like.

 Regards,
 Enrico


Enrico,

Others have already said it but thanks for getting the wiki installed.
Now we just need to make it look nice! :P

In case it helps anyone, look at http://caladbolg.net/textadeptwiki/
for an example of content that might be useful to contain in the Geany
wiki. This link is to the Textadept wiki, where Textadept is another
excellent cross-platform text editor but with a different design and
different goasl to Geany.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Mon, 16 May 2011 18:08:46 -0700, Matthew wrote:

On 05/16/11 15:04, Enrico Tröger wrote:

 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.

 I changed it a bit:
 everyone can register but has limited access until the registration
 is approved. I still think we could use a captcha for the
 registration, need to check whether there is a proper plugin.


Looks good!
Now it just needs to be opened up so people can edit pages and stuff.

It looks like there's at least two captcha plugins[1][2].

Thanks, I installed the captcha plugin [2] which seems to work just
fine.


Regards,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Russell Dickenson

2011/5/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for now
 I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
 your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up instantly.
 So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune it to our
 needs.

 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

 Regards,
 Enrico


Regarding the template for the wiki, I just browsed the gallery of
Dokuwiki templates and quite like this one:
http://www.dokuwiki.org/template%3Avector. It's very similar to the
default template but looks a little smoother.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Wed, 18 May 2011 06:59:29 +1000, Russell wrote:

2011/5/17 Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de:
 On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

 Here we go:

 http://wiki.geany.org/

 For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

 What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

 Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for
 now I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
 Unported.


 Currently, registration is disabled.
 I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
 For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
 your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up
 instantly. So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune
 it to our needs.

 If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
 share them.

 Regards,
 Enrico


Regarding the template for the wiki, I just browsed the gallery of
Dokuwiki templates and quite like this one:
http://www.dokuwiki.org/template%3Avector. It's very similar to the
default template but looks a little smoother.

I think it looks quite like MediaWiki but I don't mind.
No objections here.

I don't mind much about the template at all in general, I just would
like to have something nice, the default DokuWiki theme is not so nice,
IMHO.


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:34:47 -0400
Jonathan Daily biomathjda...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wrote an AutoHotKey script to pass text from the geany window to
 either an active Rterm or the active tab of console2. I also wrote an
 R script to dump functions into a space separated text file to
 facilitate text highlighting for packages that I use all the time. 

Not sure wheter this content is the wiki the correct place for -- may
some other decide. 

 And
 finally, I wrote some snippets for R specific constructs.

I suggest a space for snippets ... something like snippets:filetype

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 17 May 2011 22:43:30 +0200
Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:

 On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:41:32 +0200, Frank wrote:
 
 Am 16.05.2011 23:51, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
  If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
  share them.
 
 I'd like to have a plugin to tag pages as e.g.
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:tag is one to.
 
 Installed.

Thanks very much: In addition topic would be very cool ;) (Sorry, I
forgot to mention before)

Cheers, 
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:23:04 +0200, Frank wrote:

On Tue, 17 May 2011 22:43:30 +0200
Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:

 On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:41:32 +0200, Frank wrote:
 
 Am 16.05.2011 23:51, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
  If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas,
  please share them.
 
 I'd like to have a plugin to tag pages as e.g.
 http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:tag is one to.
 
 Installed.

Thanks very much: In addition topic would be very cool ;) (Sorry, I
forgot to mention before)

Installed the pagelist plugin (which is what you meant as you said on
IRC :D).


Regards,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-17 Thread Ross McKay

Yay!

Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:
 I'm not yet sure about the overall structure of the contents in the
 wiki, this we still need to work out. But you can of course create a
 page with content already if you like.

If a basic structure can be defined, it will make it easier to work out
where to go from there. I'm eager to drop in the odd bit, as are most
posters here, but I reckon a structure will help guide us somewhat.

Russell Dickenson wrote:
In case it helps anyone, look at http://caladbolg.net/textadeptwiki/
for an example of content that might be useful to contain in the Geany
wiki. This link is to the Textadept wiki, where Textadept is another
excellent cross-platform text editor but with a different design and
different goasl to Geany.

Looks like a good base to work from.
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-16 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

Here we go:

http://wiki.geany.org/

For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for now
I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
Unported.


Currently, registration is disabled.
I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.
For now, if you want an account to write, drop me a short mail with
your desired username via private mail and I'll setup it up instantly.
So we hopefully can quickly play with it around and tune it to our
needs.

If you know any cool plugins we could use or have any ideas, please
share them.

Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-16 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:51:44 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Sun, 8 May 2011 18:41:32 +0200, Enrico wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.

Here we go:

http://wiki.geany.org/

For now, it's a pretty raw default installation.

What we need is a fancy theme and of course content.

Also we may  need to discuss a license to use for the content, for now
I kept the Dokuwiki default value: CC Attribution-Share Alike 3.0
Unported.


Currently, registration is disabled.
I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.

I changed it a bit:
everyone can register but has limited access until the registration is
approved. I still think we could use a captcha for the registration,
need to check whether there is a proper plugin.


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-16 Thread Matthew Brush


On 05/16/11 15:04, Enrico Tröger wrote:


Currently, registration is disabled.
I think we should go for open registration coupled with a captcha.


I changed it a bit:
everyone can register but has limited access until the registration is
approved. I still think we could use a captcha for the registration,
need to check whether there is a proper plugin.



Looks good!
Now it just needs to be opened up so people can edit pages and stuff.

It looks like there's at least two captcha plugins[1][2].

Thanks,
Matthew Brush

[1] http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:recaptcha
[2] http://www.dokuwiki.org/plugin:captcha
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-09 Thread Frank Lanitz

Am 08.05.2011 18:41, schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
 because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.
 
 I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
 Thanks for your patience.

Looking forward to ;)

Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 20:59:08 -0700, Matthew wrote:

Hey guys,


I'm ashamed this topic is already so old and nothing happened so far
because I didn't manage to set up the Wiki yet.

I'll set up the Wiki next week or at least next weekend, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.


Regards,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Brush


On 04/03/11 05:56, Enrico Tröger wrote:

To enforce the decision a bit, are there any objections in using
DokuWiki for wiki.geany.org with the MarkDown and/or reStructuredText
plugins?


None here.

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Dominic Hopf

Am Sonntag, den 03.04.2011, 14:56 +0200 schrieb Enrico Tröger:
 To enforce the decision a bit, are there any objections in using
 DokuWiki for wiki.geany.org with the MarkDown and/or reStructuredText
 plugins?

Go ahead and don't hesitate that long. :)

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Colomban Wendling


Le 03/04/2011 15:29, Enrico Tröger a écrit :

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:02:07 +0200, Colomban wrote:


Le 03/04/2011 14:56, Enrico Tröger a écrit :

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:20:06 +0200, Frank wrote:
[...]

To enforce the decision a bit, are there any objections in using
DokuWiki for wiki.geany.org with the MarkDown and/or reStructuredText
plugins?


I don't know MarkDown (well, never used it, I saw some files using
it), but I'd be fine with ReST.
Would this format(s) be the only one(s) available or would it be
optional? I don't think having pages in 2 different formats is a good
idea, but if it's transparent (e.g. we can edit any page using the one
we prefer) I second this :)


Nah, one page has one format. If a page is written in ReST you can't
edit in MarkDown syntax or DokuWiki's syntax and vice versa.

I agree that if pages are written in different markup languages this is
quite confusing. We could maybe say: everything has to be written in
reStructuredText.

Though in some cases it might better to use DokuWiki's syntax instead
of reStructuredText. One example might be to show some code examples
which can DokuWiki highlight out of the box, e.g.

[...]

In reStructuredText this isn't possible, without manually patching,
AFAIK. There you have only a block with the code.

So, in the end, I personally, would say we allow both syntax variants,
accepting that it is a bit confusing.
The good thing is, you quickly see what syntax a page is in when you
are editing it because all reStructuredText pages are enclosed byrst
tags.


I'm afraid having more than one formatting may be really problematic for 
contributions (e.g. the goal of a Wiki).
Moreover, what if somebody wants to add something unsupported by reST in 
a reST page?

Hum, that's problematic :D

Maybe we could just give all this a try and see what happens. If we see 
there is a real problem, it'd be tedious to convert back to something 
else but it's totally doable (and helped by a script should be quite 
fast... programmers or not :D).


Not sure, but I have no better idea (apart sticking with DokuWiki 
syntax, but I also understand the point of using the same thing that we 
generally use with Geany)...


My 1,5¢
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Frank Lanitz

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:29:33 +0200
Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:

 On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:02:07 +0200, Colomban wrote:
 
 Le 03/04/2011 14:56, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
  On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:20:06 +0200, Frank wrote:
  [...]
 
  To enforce the decision a bit, are there any objections in using
  DokuWiki for wiki.geany.org with the MarkDown and/or
  reStructuredText plugins?
 
 I don't know MarkDown (well, never used it, I saw some files using
 it), but I'd be fine with ReST.
 Would this format(s) be the only one(s) available or would it be 
 optional? I don't think having pages in 2 different formats is a
 good idea, but if it's transparent (e.g. we can edit any page using
 the one we prefer) I second this :)
 
 Nah, one page has one format. If a page is written in ReST you can't
 edit in MarkDown syntax or DokuWiki's syntax and vice versa.
 
 I agree that if pages are written in different markup languages this
 is quite confusing. We could maybe say: everything has to be written
 in reStructuredText.
 
 Though in some cases it might better to use DokuWiki's syntax instead
 of reStructuredText. One example might be to show some code examples
 which can DokuWiki highlight out of the box, e.g.
 
 code C
 int my_fancy_function(char arg1)
 {
 /* I do very fancy things */
int a =0;
int b = a;
 
return b;
 }
 /code
 
 In reStructuredText this isn't possible, without manually patching,
 AFAIK. There you have only a block with the code.
 
 So, in the end, I personally, would say we allow both syntax variants,
 accepting that it is a bit confusing.
 The good thing is, you quickly see what syntax a page is in when you
 are editing it because all reStructuredText pages are enclosed by
 rst tags.

Through away the rst stuff and use DokuWiki syntax. Simple, fast and
consistent solution for the wiki. 

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Colomban Wendling


Le 03/04/2011 16:39, Frank Lanitz a écrit :

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 15:29:33 +0200
Enrico Trögerenrico.troe...@uvena.de  wrote:


On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:02:07 +0200, Colomban wrote:


Le 03/04/2011 14:56, Enrico Tröger a écrit :

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:20:06 +0200, Frank wrote:
[...]

To enforce the decision a bit, are there any objections in using
DokuWiki for wiki.geany.org with the MarkDown and/or
reStructuredText plugins?


I don't know MarkDown (well, never used it, I saw some files using
it), but I'd be fine with ReST.
Would this format(s) be the only one(s) available or would it be
optional? I don't think having pages in 2 different formats is a
good idea, but if it's transparent (e.g. we can edit any page using
the one we prefer) I second this :)


Nah, one page has one format. If a page is written in ReST you can't
edit in MarkDown syntax or DokuWiki's syntax and vice versa.

I agree that if pages are written in different markup languages this
is quite confusing. We could maybe say: everything has to be written
in reStructuredText.

Though in some cases it might better to use DokuWiki's syntax instead
of reStructuredText. One example might be to show some code examples
which can DokuWiki highlight out of the box, e.g.

code C
int my_fancy_function(char arg1)
{
 /* I do very fancy things */
int a =0;
int b = a;

return b;
}
/code

In reStructuredText this isn't possible, without manually patching,
AFAIK. There you have only a block with the code.

So, in the end, I personally, would say we allow both syntax variants,
accepting that it is a bit confusing.
The good thing is, you quickly see what syntax a page is in when you
are editing it because all reStructuredText pages are enclosed by
rst  tags.


Through away the rst stuff and use DokuWiki syntax. Simple, fast and
consistent solution for the wiki.


Yeah, if it's not a problem for some users not to use the same thing 
than Geany use for it's own doc (why Wiki user would even know? :D) I 
think it's definitely cleaner.


Cheers,
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-03 Thread Matthew Brush


On 04/03/11 17:10, Lex Trotman wrote:


Through away the rst stuff and use DokuWiki syntax. Simple, fast and
consistent solution for the wiki.


Yeah, if it's not a problem for some users not to use the same thing than
Geany use for it's own doc (why Wiki user would even know? :D) I think it's
definitely cleaner.



Agree, use wiki markup for wiki, document markup for document, don't
use a screwdriver as a hammer, even if it might work some of the time
:-)


+1

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-02 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 10:40:30 +1000, Russell wrote:

On 1 April 2011 11:07, Randy Kramer rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 31 March 2011 01:43:52 pm Enrico Tröger wrote:
The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if I
didn't miss anything.

I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.

Any opinions?

Of course! ;-)

I'd recommend choosing a wiki which uses a markup language for which
Geany can do syntax highlighting. I find it helpful to write my wiki
pages in my own editor before transferring them to the wiki.

I prefer Foswiki / TWiki, but there is not a lexer for them in
Geany / SciTE, yet. (I'm working on one, but no promises on
completion.)

Randy Kramer

While I agree that it would be great if wiki contributions could be
written in Geany but I don't think that should limit our wiki
selection.

There is a MarkDown plugin for DokuWiki which seems to work quite ok
(just tested it on a test instance) and there is also a not yet
released RestructuredText plugin[1]. I contacted the author already
asking him whether he would release it as we could use it.

Geany supports both, MarkDown and RestructuredText.
I personally hope the RestructuredText plugin will appear and be
useful, as I know ReST better than MarkDown or any Wiki syntax and
because we use ReST as well for Geany's documentation.

+1 for Dokuwiki.

Nice.

[1]
http://www.freelists.org/post/dokuwiki/Howwhere-does-dokuwiki-handle-file-suffixes-I-want-to-automate-rst-files,3

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-02 Thread Frank Lanitz

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:55:49 -0700
Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote:

 It could also serve as a sort of
 scratchpad to work on the newsletter (or ideas for the newsletter,
 topics wishlist, etc) before the issues are released.

I had the chance to do this within some other project during the last
year and I don't feel much comfortable with it. I'm fine on copying
content from newsletter to wiki and back but I'd prefer to keep writing
of newsletter inside a separate way. 

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-04-01 Thread Russell Dickenson

On 1 April 2011 11:07, Randy Kramer rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 31 March 2011 01:43:52 pm Enrico Tröger wrote:
 The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if I
 didn't miss anything.

 I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.

 Any opinions?

 Of course! ;-)

 I'd recommend choosing a wiki which uses a markup language for which
 Geany can do syntax highlighting.  I find it helpful to write my wiki
 pages in my own editor before transferring them to the wiki.

 I prefer Foswiki / TWiki, but there is not a lexer for them in Geany /
 SciTE, yet.  (I'm working on one, but no promises on completion.)

 Randy Kramer


While I agree that it would be great if wiki contributions could be
written in Geany but I don't think that should limit our wiki
selection.

+1 for Dokuwiki.


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-31 Thread Росен Стоянов

I haven't used neither of the mentioned wikis, but here are some interesting
links that you might take a look at.

http://www.wikimatrix.org/compare/DokuWiki+PmWiki
http://www.abcseo.com/blog/dokuwiki-vs-pmwiki
http://www.wikimatrix.org/forum/t539-dokuwiki-pmwiki

Cheers :)
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-31 Thread Colomban Wendling

Le 31/03/2011 19:43, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
 [...]

 Do you think this is something that could/should be hosted on the
 Geany website using MediaWiki, MoinMoin or similar software, or do you
 think it would be better to use a third party hosting like
 live.gnome.org or a similar service?
 
 as already earlier said in this thread, I'd prefer to host it on
 geany.org accessible via wiki.geany.org.

Agreed, much better.

 The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if I
 didn't miss anything.
 
 I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.

I haven't tested PMWiki yet (I know, shame on me), but I really like
DokuWiki (at least the syntax is far better than e.g. MediaWiki's one IMHO).

Cheers,
Colomban
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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-31 Thread Enrico Tröger

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:35:10 +0200, Colomban wrote:

Le 31/03/2011 19:43, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
 [...]

 Do you think this is something that could/should be hosted on the
 Geany website using MediaWiki, MoinMoin or similar software, or do
 you think it would be better to use a third party hosting like
 live.gnome.org or a similar service?
 
 as already earlier said in this thread, I'd prefer to host it on
 geany.org accessible via wiki.geany.org.

Agreed, much better.

 The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if I
 didn't miss anything.
 
 I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.

I haven't tested PMWiki yet (I know, shame on me), but I really like
DokuWiki (at least the syntax is far better than e.g. MediaWiki's one
IMHO).

Росен, thanks for the links.
Two of them recommends DokuWiki over PMWiki for the purpose we are
planning.
And Colomban also seems to like DokuWiki.

So far, it seems there is a plus for DokuWiki. If nobody complains,
this could be the choice.


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-31 Thread Frank Lanitz

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:43:07 +0200
Enrico Tröger enrico.troe...@uvena.de wrote:

 On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:35:10 +0200, Colomban wrote:
 
 Le 31/03/2011 19:43, Enrico Tröger a écrit :
  [...]
 
  Do you think this is something that could/should be hosted on the
  Geany website using MediaWiki, MoinMoin or similar software, or do
  you think it would be better to use a third party hosting like
  live.gnome.org or a similar service?
  
  as already earlier said in this thread, I'd prefer to host it on
  geany.org accessible via wiki.geany.org.
 
 Agreed, much better.
 
  The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if
  I didn't miss anything.
  
  I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.
 
 I haven't tested PMWiki yet (I know, shame on me), but I really like
 DokuWiki (at least the syntax is far better than e.g. MediaWiki's one
 IMHO).
 
 Росен, thanks for the links.
 Two of them recommends DokuWiki over PMWiki for the purpose we are
 planning.
 And Colomban also seems to like DokuWiki.
 
 So far, it seems there is a plus for DokuWiki. If nobody complains,
 this could be the choice.

Would be fine with it. Already got a DokuWiki running. Its not the best
I can imagine but does its job ;) 

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-31 Thread Randy Kramer

On Thursday 31 March 2011 01:43:52 pm Enrico Tröger wrote:
 The question about the Wiki software to use is still unanswered if I
 didn't miss anything.

 I personally still would prefer DokuWiki or PMWiki.

 Any opinions?

Of course! ;-)

I'd recommend choosing a wiki which uses a markup language for which 
Geany can do syntax highlighting.  I find it helpful to write my wiki 
pages in my own editor before transferring them to the wiki.

I prefer Foswiki / TWiki, but there is not a lexer for them in Geany / 
SciTE, yet.  (I'm working on one, but no promises on completion.)

Randy Kramer


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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-16 Thread Frank Lanitz

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:51:40 +0100
Dominic Hopf dma...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 16:36 +0100 schrieb Michael Spahn:
  I would offer the hosting and maintenance.
  
  We could use a sub domain like wiki.geany.org, f.e.
 
 I guess hosting is not that issue, actually. There are a lot of guys
 who have own (virtual) servers, including myself. But geany.org
 itself is already placed on a server and I think the sub domain
 should also go there. :)

The box behind is already serving a lot so Enrico is the man who
says here top or flop. 

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-16 Thread Frank Lanitz

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:48:14 +1100
Lex Trotman ele...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 16 March 2011 10:42, Russell Dickenson
 russelldicken...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 16 March 2011 09:35, Lex Trotman ele...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 16 March 2011 10:29, Matthew Brush mbr...@codebrainz.ca wrote:
  On 03/15/11 15:53, Dominic Hopf wrote:
 
  To be consistent with other documents: Is there one that supports
  restructuredText out of the box?
 
  Outside of the Geany developers (and/or doc writers), I don't
  think it would be as common to users for this purpose.  That
  being said, MoinMoin seems to support it out of the box[1], and
  MediaWiki via an extension[2].
 
  [1] http://moinmo.in/ReStructuredText
  [2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RstToHtml
 
  I don't really mind what markup, but I will note that some are
  pushing for Creole to become a standard  IIUC several wikis now
  support it.
 
  I'm guessing that the idea of seeking a wiki which supports ReST was
  that if the newsletter was produced in ReST markup, it could be
  cut-and-pasted into the wiki.
 
 Geany's documentation is ReST, and as we discussed early in the
 newsletter discussion, probably better to keep to one tool.
 
 But the wiki is likely to have wider use than those changing Geany
 documentation (hopefully :-) so its markup should be a more widely
 used one.  If it also supports ReST and so allows pasting of
 newsletters, documentation etc then that would be a good point in
 favor of that particular wiki engine.

Yes. Also it should support some kind of normal wiki syntax as many
people know from common used installations for mediawiki - [] etc. But
most of wikis I did see last time are doing this. 

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 07:20:59 +0100, Frank wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 23:51:40 +0100
Dominic Hopf dma...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am Dienstag, den 15.03.2011, 16:36 +0100 schrieb Michael Spahn:
  I would offer the hosting and maintenance.
  
  We could use a sub domain like wiki.geany.org, f.e.
 
 I guess hosting is not that issue, actually. There are a lot of guys
 who have own (virtual) servers, including myself. But geany.org
 itself is already placed on a server and I think the sub domain
 should also go there. :)

The box behind is already serving a lot so Enrico is the man who
says here top or flop. 

Don't worry about the server, I'll take that it manages the load of the
thousands and millions per second of Geany users :).

More seriously, the server does a quite a few things but it's still all
well and it probably gets a boost soon.
But even without, serving an additional website isn't a problem for the
server especially not if it's just PHP (see my other mail about what
Wiki to use for details).


Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:36:27 +0100, Michael wrote:

I would offer the hosting and maintenance.

We could use a sub domain like wiki.geany.org, f.e.

Don't worry about the hosting, I think it should stay with the rest of
the Geany services.

I'll setup wiki.geany.org as soon as we clarified the other details.

Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:02:20 +0100, Frank wrote:

Am 15.03.2011 16:36, schrieb Michael Spahn:
 I would offer the hosting and maintenance.
 
 We could use a sub domain like wiki.geany.org, f.e.

I'd like that idea. What do you thinking of using here? MoinMoin,
docuwiki, Mediawiki? I'd would also have some place to host the stuff.
Or maybe put it also on geany.org but only Enrico can tell about this.

As I said in another mail in this thread, I'd suggest to keep the new
wiki near to the rest of the Geany services, i.e. directly on geany.org.

Regarding the wiki software, basically I don't mind which wiki.
Though I have some technical preferences about the software.

I'd prefer to have a PHP based solution as it would nicely integrate
into the existing Lighttpd+FastCGI setup, from my personal experience
I'd vote for Dokuwiki or PMWiki.
Still, this is just a wish of me, not really a requirement.

I agree that the main focus in choosing the wiki software should be in
usability for both, authors and readers.

Regards,
Enrico

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Re: [Geany] Wiki?

2011-03-16 Thread Matthew Brush


On 03/16/11 12:18, Enrico Tröger wrote:

Regarding the wiki software, basically I don't mind which wiki.
Though I have some technical preferences about the software.

I'd prefer to have a PHP based solution as it would nicely integrate
into the existing Lighttpd+FastCGI setup, from my personal experience
I'd vote for Dokuwiki or PMWiki.


MediaWiki is probably the most standard Wiki software (ie. Wikipedia and 
friends) and it's written in PHP.  It also supports ReST as noted in 
this thread.  I've never heard of DocuWiki though, it looks interesting 
too.  I haven't looked at PMWiki yet.



I agree that the main focus in choosing the wiki software should be in
usability for both, authors and readers.


MediaWiki has that going for it, for sure.  It's probably also top of 
the pile in security and stability (assumption based on its widespread 
use).  Personally I don't feel too strongly about which software, but I 
would think something familiar to people who may edit other Wikis would 
be good.


MediaWiki is also in the Debian repositories (at least for Squeeze). 
I'm not sure though what distro the server is running or if having a 
package even matters.


Thanks,
Matthew Brush
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