Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Struberg
status page, etc looks good

+1 (binding)


good luck!

LieGrue,
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 +1 (binding)
 
 2012/2/24 Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org:
  This is a call for vote to graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator.
 
  Sqoop entered Incubator in June of 2011. Since then it has added three
  new committers from diverse organizations, added two new PPMC members,
  and made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. The
  community of Sqoop is active, healthy and growing and has demonstrated
  the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop
  community has voted to proceed with graduation [1] and the result can
  be found at [2].
 
  Please cast your votes:
 
  [  ] +1 Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator
  [  ] +0 Indifferent to the graduation status of Sqoop podling
  [  ] -1 Reject graduation of Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator
 
  This vote will be open for 72 hours. Please find the proposed board
  resolution below.
 
  [1] http://markmail.org/thread/xwhjtkik7pgrmypi
  [2] http://s.apache.org/sqoop
 
  Thanks,
  Arvind Prabhakar
 
  X. Establish the Apache Sqoop Project
 
        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
        open-source software related to efficiently transferring
        bulk data between Apache Hadoop and structured datastores
        for distribution at no charge to the public.
 
        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
        Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Sqoop Project,
        be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
        Foundation; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that the Apache Sqoop Project be and hereby is
        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
        related to efficiently transferring bulk data between Apache
        Hadoop and structured datastores; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Sqoop 
 be
        and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
        serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
        of the Apache Sqoop Project, and to have primary responsibility
        for management of the projects within the scope of
        responsibility of the Apache Sqoop Project; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
        Apache Sqoop Project:
 
          * Aaron Kimball             kimba...@apache.org
          * Andrew Bayer              aba...@apache.org
          * Ahmed Radwan              ah...@apache.org
          * Arvind Prabhakar          arv...@apache.org
          * Bilung Lee                b...@apache.org
          * Greg Cottman              gcott...@apache.org
          * Guy le Mar                guyle...@apache.org
          * Jaroslav Cecho            jar...@apache.org
          * Jonathan Hsieh            jmhs...@apache.org
          * Olivier Lamy              ol...@apache.org
          * Paul Zimdars              pzimd...@apache.org
          * Roman Shaposhnik          r...@apache.org
 
        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Arvind Prabhakar
        be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Sqoop, to
        serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
        Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
        death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
        or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Sqoop PMC be and hereby is
        tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
        encourage open development and increased participation in the
        Apache Sqoop Project; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that the Apache Sqoop Project be and hereby
        is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
        Incubator Sqoop podling; and be it further
 
        RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
        Incubator Sqoop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
        Project are hereafter discharged.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

2012-02-26 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding)
Tommaso

2012/2/24 Arvind Prabhakar arv...@apache.org

 This is a call for vote to graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator.

 Sqoop entered Incubator in June of 2011. Since then it has added three
 new committers from diverse organizations, added two new PPMC members,
 and made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. The
 community of Sqoop is active, healthy and growing and has demonstrated
 the ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices. Sqoop
 community has voted to proceed with graduation [1] and the result can
 be found at [2].

 Please cast your votes:

 [  ] +1 Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator
 [  ] +0 Indifferent to the graduation status of Sqoop podling
 [  ] -1 Reject graduation of Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator

 This vote will be open for 72 hours. Please find the proposed board
 resolution below.

 [1] http://markmail.org/thread/xwhjtkik7pgrmypi
 [2] http://s.apache.org/sqoop

 Thanks,
 Arvind Prabhakar

 X. Establish the Apache Sqoop Project

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software related to efficiently transferring
   bulk data between Apache Hadoop and structured datastores
   for distribution at no charge to the public.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Sqoop Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Sqoop Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
   related to efficiently transferring bulk data between Apache
   Hadoop and structured datastores; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Sqoop be
   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
   of the Apache Sqoop Project, and to have primary responsibility
   for management of the projects within the scope of
   responsibility of the Apache Sqoop Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Sqoop Project:

 * Aaron Kimball kimba...@apache.org
 * Andrew Bayer  aba...@apache.org
 * Ahmed Radwan  ah...@apache.org
 * Arvind Prabhakar  arv...@apache.org
 * Bilung Leeb...@apache.org
 * Greg Cottman  gcott...@apache.org
 * Guy le Marguyle...@apache.org
 * Jaroslav Cechojar...@apache.org
 * Jonathan Hsiehjmhs...@apache.org
 * Olivier Lamy  ol...@apache.org
 * Paul Zimdars  pzimd...@apache.org
 * Roman Shaposhnik  r...@apache.org

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Arvind Prabhakar
   be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Sqoop, to
   serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
   Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
   death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
   or until a successor is appointed; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Sqoop PMC be and hereby is
   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Apache Sqoop Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Sqoop Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Incubator Sqoop podling; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
   Incubator Sqoop podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
   Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread Andy Seaborne

sebb,

What I'm trying to get to at the moment is something that enables a 
release of TDB and we can apply to next module.


jena is a number of modules, we have released 3 (5 actually - 2 are the 
parent POM and the distribution maker for the core) already; TDB is the 
sixth, and there are 3 more in the pipeline.


People have been asking for more packaging forms - WAR file for the 
server functionality, OSGi for Jena as a whole, which seems to be a 
non-trivial exercise.


One of the ones to come is not a simple jar build - it's a server that 
can used as a jar, as a combined dependencies jar or run from the 
command line.  I'm trying to understand the constraints required so that 
will be smooth(er).


We are discussing rebuilding our build strategy but doing so, and to get 
it working reliably and stably will take time.  We chose to release with 
what we have, and not let reworking the build system become critical 
path for graduation.


 The apache-jena-tdb... is then merely being a renamed file for browsing
 apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip

 (c.f. Ant which has renamed items in it dist/ant)

I referred to Ant specifically because the incubator documentation for 
podling releases picks ant and httpd out as examples to look at.


ant has top level items for easy discovery which are renamed duplicates 
of things in binaries/


 `-- source-release
 `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating

 What's the point of the subdirectory?

because there are other modules with their own source-release artifact. 
 The TDB release items will be merged into the existing directory.


We had been following a layout like CXF where source-release and 
binaries are in the same directory.  Given that is where a the 
maven-driven process puts them, someone taking the source releease 
doing mvn package is going to look in target/ and expect created items 
to be there.


That was the RC-2 proposal for dist for TDB.  If, as seems necessary, we 
have to adopt a different layout, we'll reorganise the existing release 
items into the same structure.



Would a structure:

dist
|-- binaries
|   `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating
|   |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
|   |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip
|   |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-javadoc.jar
|   |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-sources.jar
|   |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating.jar


The jars are not generally needed for dist/


|-- download
|   |-- apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
|   |-- apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip


Are these the same as the distribution archives above?


`-- source-release
`-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating


What's the point of the subdirectory?


|-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip


Name does not agree with binary archives


+ the .asc, .md5 .sha1 files

be acceptable?

Or with download/ removed its files at the top level?


I still find it very confusing.
e.g. where is the source file for jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz?


jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip

Given the way maven classifiers work, it is a reasonable expectation of 
the user to find the various classifier artifacts in target/ after

mvn package


Why is there a download directory and a binaries directory?


Like ant, I pulled out the items which are download-unpack-go.  The 
dist areas serves several audiences - for (new) users, not necessarily 
experienced maven users, we have the Jena website (we use Apache CMS to 
produce the website, not maven by the way) simply point to download/ 
(mirrored).  Ditto URLs handled out on the web as being the place to go 
to download Jena.


I don't mind if it's download/ or (like ant) at the top level.

Andy


Mocked up at:

http://people.apache.org/~andy/dist-tdb-proto/



See my mockups at:

http://people.apache.org/~sebb/dist-tdb-proto/

one - parallel binaries/ and source/
two - single directory named after the release.

The latter is likely to be easier to manage when moving to svnpubsub.

$ ls -1R

./one:
KEYS
binaries
source

./one/binaries:
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip

./one/source:
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip

./two:
KEYS
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating

./two/apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating:
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip
apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip

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[VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates 
it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the 
IPMC to approve graduation. So, here it is :-)


See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial 
committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the 
current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump 
in - but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.


This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 
29 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.


Robert

--8---
[ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
---


[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
[2] Suggested Draft Charter:

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software related to the comprehension and
   auditing of software distributions for distribution at
   no charge to the public.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
   software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
   distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
   of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
   for management of the projects within the scope of
   responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Creadur Project:

   ...

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
   Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
   Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
   direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
   it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
   Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread sebb
On 26 February 2012 15:41, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote:
 sebb,

 What I'm trying to get to at the moment is something that enables a release
 of TDB and we can apply to next module.

 jena is a number of modules, we have released 3 (5 actually - 2 are the
 parent POM and the distribution maker for the core) already; TDB is the
 sixth, and there are 3 more in the pipeline.

 People have been asking for more packaging forms - WAR file for the server
 functionality, OSGi for Jena as a whole, which seems to be a non-trivial
 exercise.

 One of the ones to come is not a simple jar build - it's a server that can
 used as a jar, as a combined dependencies jar or run from the command line.
  I'm trying to understand the constraints required so that will be
 smooth(er).

 We are discussing rebuilding our build strategy but doing so, and to get it
 working reliably and stably will take time.  We chose to release with what
 we have, and not let reworking the build system become critical path for
 graduation.


 The apache-jena-tdb... is then merely being a renamed file for browsing
 apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip

 (c.f. Ant which has renamed items in it dist/ant)

 I referred to Ant specifically because the incubator documentation for
 podling releases picks ant and httpd out as examples to look at.

 ant has top level items for easy discovery which are renamed duplicates of
 things in binaries/


 `-- source-release
     `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating

 What's the point of the subdirectory?

 because there are other modules with their own source-release artifact.  The
 TDB release items will be merged into the existing directory.

So why don't you do the same for the download directory?

 We had been following a layout like CXF where source-release and binaries
 are in the same directory.  Given that is where a the maven-driven process
 puts them, someone taking the source releease doing mvn package is going
 to look in target/ and expect created items to be there.

 That was the RC-2 proposal for dist for TDB.  If, as seems necessary, we
 have to adopt a different layout, we'll reorganise the existing release
 items into the same structure.


 Would a structure:

 dist
 |-- binaries
 |   `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating
 |       |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
 |       |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip
 |       |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-javadoc.jar
 |       |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-sources.jar
 |       |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating.jar


 The jars are not generally needed for dist/

 |-- download
 |   |-- apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz
 |   |-- apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.zip


 Are these the same as the distribution archives above?

 `-- source-release
    `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating


 What's the point of the subdirectory?

        |-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip


 Name does not agree with binary archives

 + the .asc, .md5 .sha1 files

 be acceptable?

 Or with download/ removed its files at the top level?


 I still find it very confusing.
 e.g. where is the source file for
 jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz?

Sorry, that was a mistake - I meant where is the source for the dowload file

apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz



 jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-source-release.zip

Not only is the name different, but also the archive type is different.
That is very confusing.

 Given the way maven classifiers work, it is a reasonable expectation of the
 user to find the various classifier artifacts in target/ after
 mvn package

Yes, but what has Maven to do with the self-contained release archives?


 Why is there a download directory and a binaries directory?


 Like ant, I pulled out the items which are download-unpack-go.  The dist
 areas serves several audiences - for (new) users, not necessarily
 experienced maven users, we have the Jena website (we use Apache CMS to
 produce the website, not maven by the way) simply point to download/
 (mirrored).  Ditto URLs handled out on the web as being the place to go to
 download Jena.

There should be no need to have Maven jars in the dist/ structure.
I think this is just confusing to end-users.

 I don't mind if it's download/ or (like ant) at the top level.

What I care about is that it is:
- more difficult to find the source than some of the binaries, because
of the extra directory level.
- not at all clear how to find the source for some of the binaries, as
it is at a different level and with a different name.
- binaries are available as tar.gz and zip, but source only as zip

        Andy

 Mocked up at:

 http://people.apache.org/~andy/dist-tdb-proto/


 See my mockups at:

 http://people.apache.org/~sebb/dist-tdb-proto/

 one - parallel binaries/ and source/
 two - single directory named after the release.

 The latter is likely to be easier to manage when moving to svnpubsub.

 $ ls -1R

 ./one:
 KEYS
 binaries
 

Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
+1 (binding). Great work and really happy about this!

Cheers,
Chris

On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates 
 it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the 
 IPMC to approve graduation. So, here it is :-)
 
 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial 
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the 
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump 
 in - but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.
 
 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 
 29 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.
 
 Robert
 
 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---
 
 
 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:
 
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to the comprehension and
auditing of software distributions for distribution at
no charge to the public.
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
distributions for distribution at no charge to the public
 
RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Creadur Project:
 
...
 
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
it further
 
RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
 
RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.
 
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
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University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Nick Burch

On Sun, 26 Feb 2012, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates 
it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the 
IPMC to approve graduation. So, here it is :-)


+1, good luck!

Nick

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 (binding and as a mentor)

This is long overdue in my opinion, well done for finally being able
to call the vote.

Ross

On 26 February 2012 21:33, Robert Burrell Donkin rdon...@apache.org wrote:
 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's
 willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in -
 but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29
 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

 Robert

 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
       open-source software related to the comprehension and
       auditing of software distributions for distribution at
       no charge to the public.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
       software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
       distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the projects within the scope of
       responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Creadur Project:

       ...

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
       Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
       Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 2/26/2012 10:03 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding)

Ralph

On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's 
 willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to 
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)
 
 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial committers. 
 Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the current list of 
 committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in - but this is a 
 vote on the principle of graduating now.
 
 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29 Feb 
 2012 17:00 UTC.
 
 Robert
 
 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---
 
 
 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:
 
   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software related to the comprehension and
   auditing of software distributions for distribution at
   no charge to the public.
 
   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further
 
   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
   software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
   distributions for distribution at no charge to the public
 
   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
   of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
   for management of the projects within the scope of
   responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Creadur Project:
 
   ...
 
   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
   Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
   Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
   direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
   it further
 
   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
 
   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
   Project are hereafter discharged.
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread Andy Seaborne

`-- source-release
 `-- jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating


What's the point of the subdirectory?


because there are other modules with their own source-release artifact.  The
TDB release items will be merged into the existing directory.


So why don't you do the same for the download directory?


The download/ directory would be for all modules.

But as I said, top level work for me as well.  One place where you can 
get all the jena-related unpack-and-go files.


Is that not possible?


We had been following a layout like CXF where source-release and binaries
are in the same directory.





I still find it very confusing.
e.g. where is the source file for
jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz?


Sorry, that was a mistake - I meant where is the source for the dowload file

apache-jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating-distribution.tar.gz


As per ant example - there is a correctly named and positioned file 
and also a copy (and rename) elsewhere.


The specific rename is because, long term, post rework the build, we 
think apache-jena-... will be the packaged up forms and jena-... the 
core jars but that isn't really the issue here.  A systematically named 
file is available.



What I care about is that it is:
- more difficult to find the source than some of the binaries, because
of the extra directory level.


Maybe I don't understand how should we manage multiple modules with 
currently have independent version numbers.


The proposal is have:

/sources/jena-arq-2.9.0-incubating/
/sources/jena-core-2.7.0-incubating/
/sources/jena-iri-0.9.0-incubating/
/sources/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/
/binaries/jena-arq-2.9.0-incubating/
/binaries/jena-core-2.7.0-incubating/
/binaries/jena-iri-0.9.0-incubating/
/binaries/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/

Is this better?

/jena-arq-2.9.0-incubating/sources/
/jena-arq-2.9.0-incubating/binaries/
/jena-core-2.7.0-incubating/sources/
/jena-core-2.7.0-incubating/binaries/
/jena-iri-0.9.0-incubating/sources/
/jena-iri-0.9.0-incubating/binaries/
/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/sources/
/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/binaries/

Can we put easy to find files in /?


- not at all clear how to find the source for some of the binaries, as
it is at a different level and with a different name.


/sources/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/jena-tdb-VER(-classifier)?
/binaries/jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating/jena-tdb-VER-source-release

are at the same level.

We did have a form like sling uses, split per module.


- binaries are available as tar.gz and zip, but source only as zip


Sorry - I thought I'd answered this earlier.  We use org.apache:apache 
which comes down to this (in assemblies/source-release.xml) which just 
makes a zip.


assembly
  idsource-release/id
  formats
formatzip/format
  /formats
  componentDescriptors
componentDescriptorassemblies/source-shared.xml/componentDescriptor
  /componentDescriptors
/assembly

so we just followed that.  It's a tradeoff - reuse unchnaged vs forking it.

For the .jar.gz: we used to ship a zip, which any Java systems must have 
access to as jar files are zip archives.  Adding .tar.gz was courtesy 
for people wanting files in those forms because it very little work to 
help them.


Andy

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Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread Andy Seaborne

On 24/02/12 16:56, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

Mark Struberg wrote on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:17:57 +:

PS: txs to Daniel Shahaf for pointing me at the current docs



I didn't :)

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As I'm discovering, the incubator guides aren't completely clear :-)

1/

Incubator guide:
[[
Distribution policy with regard to releases is simple:

The Incubator insists that artifacts for {podling} are contained 
within www.apache.org/dist/incubator/{podling}.


]]

which does not mention the maven repository at all, and says that 
artifacts go in the dist/incubator/ area.


Two meanings of artifact - maven artifact and Apache product.

2/

If the intention is to strongly suggest specific layouts then the text:

[[
Best Practice
  Layout

A podling is free to choose a suitable layout for its released artifacts 
within the podling distribution directory.


It is recommended that standard layouts (commonly used by other 
projects) be studied

]]

could be revised to include the constraints

3/

[[
Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project 
distribution directory to the latest version of each release. This 
allows scripts or users to easily locate the latest release.

]]

is at odds with

http://www.apache.org/dev/mirror-step-by-step.html
[[
9. Do not use symbolic links in mirrored directories!
]]
although that does say Note: This file contains out-of-date information.

Sorry - I do read the documentation sometimes ;-)

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Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +:
 3/
 
 [[
 Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project
 distribution directory to the latest version of each release. This
 allows scripts or users to easily locate the latest release.
 ]]
 
 is at odds with
 
 http://www.apache.org/dev/mirror-step-by-step.html
 [[
 9. Do not use symbolic links in mirrored directories!
 ]]
 although that does say Note: This file contains out-of-date information.
 

That refers to the suggestion to ssh www.  But yeah, I can assure you
that until a few weeks ago no one (PMC or podling) used symlinks in that
matter, and even today there exists only one such link in the entire
dist/ tree.

 Sorry - I do read the documentation sometimes ;-)
 
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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread sebb
On 26 February 2012 16:03, Robert Burrell Donkin rdon...@apache.org wrote:
 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's
 willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in -
 but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29
 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

 Robert

 --8---
 [X] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
       open-source software related to the comprehension and
       auditing of software distributions for distribution at
       no charge to the public.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
       software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
       distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the projects within the scope of
       responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Creadur Project:

       ...

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
       Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
       Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
       Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1

2012/2/26 Robert Burrell Donkin rdon...@apache.org:
 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's
 willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in -
 but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29
 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

 Robert

 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
       open-source software related to the comprehension and
       auditing of software distributions for distribution at
       no charge to the public.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
       software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
       distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the projects within the scope of
       responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Creadur Project:

       ...

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
       Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
       Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1

Niall

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
rdon...@apache.org wrote:
 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's
 willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in -
 but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29
 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

 Robert

 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:

       WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
       interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
       Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
       Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
       open-source software related to the comprehension and
       auditing of software distributions for distribution at
       no charge to the public.

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
       Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
       be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
       Foundation; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
       responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
       software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
       distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

       RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
       and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
       serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
       of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
       for management of the projects within the scope of
       responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
       hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
       Apache Creadur Project:

       ...

       NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
       Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
       Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
       direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
       Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
       disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
       it further

       RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
       tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
       encourage open development and increased participation in the
       Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
       is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

       RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
       Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
       Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Hama 0.4-incubating RC6

2012-02-26 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Added also bloom filter license in described Hadoop LICENSE file.

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/branches/0.4/LICENSE.txt

Is this now complete, Franklin?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Franklin, Matthew B.
mfrank...@mitre.org wrote:
 On 2/25/12 8:12 PM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote:

Thanks. Actually we're trying to separate them but there's some issues
related with packaging web resources e.g.,
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HAMA-494

If it's not a blocker, I'd like to fix this issue in the next release.

 As I understand it the only requirement is that you have a source release;
 which your combined one does.  As I said it isn't optimal.

 The blocker as I see it is that the LICENSE file is incomplete as I
 mentioned earlier.


On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
mfrank...@mitre.org wrote:
 For the packaging, a clean source package and a separate binary release
is
 preferred [1].  This isn't the blocker in my opinion, but something that
 you should look at.

 [1]:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#best-practice-t
yp
 es

 On 2/25/12 2:52 AM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote:

 The LICENSE file in the binary distribution needs to include 3rd
party
 licenses included in the libs that are being re-distributed as part
of
 your release.  Your binary release artifacts include ant 1.7 (and
 potentially others) that has source covered by 3rd party licenses
which I
 don't see in your LICENSE file.

The ant is released under the Apache Software License and LICENSE.txt
file contains the Apache license v2.0.

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/tags/0.4-RC6/LICENSE.txt

I don't see any missed 3rd party licenses. Could you please check it
again?


 Ant itself includes code under a separate license.  Since your binary
 release includes the Ant jar, you are redistributing that code and need
to
 include its license.

 http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/core/tags/ANT_171/LICENSE




And, the distributions contains both source code and compiled jar files.

 Anyways, if we have to go to a RC7, let's merge the new jiras from
trunk to
 0.4.0, compression and stuff can be great improvement.

I don't think we have to create new one. Moreover, new stuffs are not
tested enough yet.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Thomas Jungblut
thomas.jungb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hmm- I always thought it is Apache Ant and therefore Apache 2.0
license. If
 we have to add all transitive licenses we are going to release until
the
 overnext year.
 What is wrong packaging the source within a binary distribution?

 Anyways, if we have to go to a RC7, let's merge the new jiras from
trunk to
 0.4.0, compression and stuff can be great improvement.

 2012/2/25 Franklin, Matthew B. mfrank...@mitre.org

 -1 at the moment due to source distribution and license concerns
noted
 below.

 On 2/20/12 8:54 AM, Edward J. Yoon edwardy...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've create RC6 for the Apache Hama 0.4-incubating release. This
fixes
 the license header issue and adds rat-plugin.
 
 Signing KEYS:
 

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/trunk/src/site/resource
s/
fi
 les/KEYS
 Artifacts: http://people.apache.org/~edwardyoon/dist/0.4-RC6/

 Do you have a source artifact that is a simple archive of the SVN?

 Also, you can stage your artifacts at
 http://people.apache.org/builds/incubator/ rather than your own
public
 html folder, but this is not required.

 Tag: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/tags/0.4-RC6/
 NOTICE.txt:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/tags/0.4-RC6/NOTICE.tx
t
 LICENSE.txt:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/hama/tags/0.4-RC6/LICENSE.t
xt

 The LICENSE file in the binary distribution needs to include 3rd
party
 licenses included in the libs that are being re-distributed as part
of
 your release.  Your binary release artifacts include ant 1.7 (and
 potentially others) that has source covered by 3rd party licenses
which I
 don't see in your LICENSE file.

 Staging website: http://people.apache.org/~edwardyoon/site/
 
 You can run the mvn apache-rat:check command to check for license
 headers.
 
 I tested this RC6 builds, single mode, and distributed mode on my 16
 nodes cluster and 5 VMs with EC2.
 
 Please retry, check signatures, licenses, and vote!
 
 I hope this will be a final, and +1.
 
 Thanks.
 --
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RE: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Gavin McDonald


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org]
 Sent: Monday, 27 February 2012 2:03 AM
 To: rat-...@incubator.apache.org
 Cc: general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project
 
 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates
 it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the
IPMC to
 approve graduation. So, here it is :-)
 
 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
committers.
 Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the current list of
 committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in - but this is a
vote
 on the principle of graduating now.
 
 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday,
 29 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.
 
 Robert
 

--8---



 [  x ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur 

Gav...

[ ] +0 

[ ] -0 

[ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time



---
 
 
 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:
 
 WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
 interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
 Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
 Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
 open-source software related to the comprehension and
 auditing of software distributions for distribution at
 no charge to the public.
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
 Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
 be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
 Foundation; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
 responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
 software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
 distributions for distribution at no charge to the public
 
 RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
 and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
 serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
 of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
 for management of the projects within the scope of
 responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
 hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
 Apache Creadur Project:
 
 ...
 
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
 Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
 Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
 direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
 Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
 disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
 it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
 tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
 encourage open development and increased participation in the
 Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
 is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
 Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
 
 RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
 Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
 Project are hereafter discharged.
 
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Re: [ATTN] Incubator releases distribution area reminder!

2012-02-26 Thread sebb
On 26 February 2012 18:39, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
 Andy Seaborne wrote on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 17:37:49 +:
 3/

 [[
 Often symbolic links are created from the root of the project
 distribution directory to the latest version of each release. This
 allows scripts or users to easily locate the latest release.

AIUI, this is a bad idea, because:
- the links are frequently not updated
- they don't work for mirrors, which means the mirrors space usage increases
- when the file is downloaded using the link, the file name does not
include the version information

Users will normally get the latest release from the download page, so
the only possible use is for scripts.

 ]]

 is at odds with

 http://www.apache.org/dev/mirror-step-by-step.html
 [[
 9. Do not use symbolic links in mirrored directories!
 ]]
 although that does say Note: This file contains out-of-date information.


 That refers to the suggestion to ssh www.  But yeah, I can assure you
 that until a few weeks ago no one (PMC or podling) used symlinks in that
 matter, and even today there exists only one such link in the entire
 dist/ tree.

Huh?

The use of symlinks under /www/www.apache.org/dist is unfortunately
still quite common.

pwd dist : pwd
/www/www.apache.org/dist
pwd dist : find . -type l -name *current*.asc -ls | wc -l
  77

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Stefan Bodewig
+1

Stefan

On 2012-02-26, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:

 The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates
 it's willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking
 the IPMC to approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

 See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
 committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
 current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump
 in - but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

 This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday,
 29 Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

 Robert

 --8---
 [ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
 [ ] +0
 [ ] -0
 [ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
 ---


 [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
 [2] Suggested Draft Charter:

WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to the comprehension and
auditing of software distributions for distribution at
no charge to the public.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
for management of the projects within the scope of
responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
Apache Creadur Project:

...

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
it further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
encourage open development and increased participation in the
Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] RAT Ready To Graduate As Apache Creadur Top Level Project

2012-02-26 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofré

+1 (binding)

Regards
JB

On 02/26/2012 10:13 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

+1

2012/2/26 Robert Burrell Donkinrdon...@apache.org:

The graduation guide[1] recommends that the Rat community demonstrates it's
willingness to govern itself through a free VOTE before asking the IPMC to
approve graduation. So, here it is :-)

See [2] for a draft of the charter, excluding the list of initial
committers. Unless anyone jumps into this thread, I'll assume that the
current list of committers would be fine. Please read, review and jump in -
but this is a vote on the principle of graduating now.

This VOTE is open to all, and I'll tally this no early than Wednesday, 29
Feb 2012 17:00 UTC.

Robert

--8---
[ ] +1 the RAT community feels ready to graduate as Apache Creadur
[ ] +0
[ ] -0
[ ] -1 Do not graduate RAT at this time
---


[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
[2] Suggested Draft Charter:

   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
   open-source software related to the comprehension and
   auditing of software distributions for distribution at
   no charge to the public.

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
   Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Creadur Project,
   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
   Foundation; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
   responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
   software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
   distributions for distribution at no charge to the public

   RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Creadur be
   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
   of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
   for management of the projects within the scope of
   responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
   Apache Creadur Project:

   ...

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
   Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
   Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
   direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
   it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
   encourage open development and increased participation in the
   Apache Creadur Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
   Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
   Project are hereafter discharged.

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Re: [VOTE] Release jena-tdb-0.9.0-incubating (RC-4)

2012-02-26 Thread Leo Simons
On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Andy Seaborne a...@apache.org wrote:
 The Jena PPMC has voted to release

  Apache Jena TDB 0.9.0-incubating

 and we would now be grateful if members of IPMC would review and vote for
 this release.

+1 from me.

(justification:

1) I do not consider unintuitive file name and directory layout
conventions blockers for release; I think this thread shows
unintuitive is subjective anyway. I pointed the deviations out
before on jena-dev, and then folks obviously thought about this and
decided to do things differently from a lot of other projects. Even if
the chosen convention is wacky that does not make it wrong.

2) Whilst LEGAL-124 remains unresolved there's plenty of precedent for
not having license headers in test data and similar auxiliary files,
all around apache, and so I consider it fine to continue current
standard practice until different rules arrive.

3) all looks good to me ;-)
)


cheers,


Leo

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