Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-05-06 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Our mentor has come for the hama project. And, We're not
proportionately I think attracting as many volunteer/person of
interests as we should be, although the sheer numbers are clearly
heading in the right direction. Therefore, i hoped the incubate would
come quickly, for we know that the apache incubator is a good
jumping-off point for our research and collaboration contacts.

So, I wonder whether it can be entered into the voting thread at this
time. Also, If you find that the lack of any of this proposal, I'd
like to hear your advice.

Thanks,
Edward.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Bertrand, Thanks for your help.

  IMHO, if no one is interested in mentoring (dunno if it is the case),
  that might be a good sign that your project needs to grow a community
  elsewhere before entering incubation.

 That seems like a fair bet. I'll rev up the community of the hama and
 recruit the mentors for this project.

 Thanks.


 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   ... BTW, I wonder whether mentor is badly needed.
Someone please reply to me
 
  Yes, at least one mentor, and ideally up to three, are needed for a
  project to enter incubation.
 
  IMHO, if no one is interested in mentoring (dunno if it is the case),
  that might be a good sign that your project needs to grow a community
  elsewhere before entering incubation.
 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... BTW, I wonder whether mentor is badly needed.
  Someone please reply to me

Yes, at least one mentor, and ideally up to three, are needed for a
project to enter incubation.

IMHO, if no one is interested in mentoring (dunno if it is the case),
that might be a good sign that your project needs to grow a community
elsewhere before entering incubation.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Dear Grant, Thanks for your +1.
I feel with you about your mention of the lack of interest from
Hadoop, but I think that shouldn't be a problem; we can communicate
with hadoop people in real time if we need.

BTW, I wonder whether mentor is badly needed.
Someone please reply to me.

Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Grant Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +1 on bringing this into incubation.  I think it still needs a mentor
 and I am also concerned about lack of interest from Hadoop, but they
 have their own fish to fry, as they say, and it shouldn't stop this
 from going forward.

 I think it will be useful in Mahout, if there are Java APIs exposed.

 -Grant


 On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:29 PM, edward yoon wrote:

  Thank you very much for your advice.
  I was going to fix that.
 
  Last year I worked as a full-time open source developer at RD center
  at NHN (search service company) for hadoop and hbase, and now i worked
  for development projects in real service areas. Some (minchang,
  changhee) are my fellow workers, Others { chanwit (Student), yongho
  (TMAX software, database company), taehui (KRIBB, biomedical
  government research center) } are came from hadoop community.
 
  --
  == Homogenous Developers ==
 
  The current list of committers includes developers from several
  different companies ( NHN, corp, TMAX software, Korea Research
  Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, Students) plus many
  independent volunteers. The committers are geographically distributed
  across the Europe, and Asia. They are experienced with working in a
  distributed environment.
 
  == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 
  It is expected that Hama development will occur on both salaried time
  and on volunteer time, after hours. While there is reliance on
  salaried developers (currently from  NHN, corp, but it's expected that
  other company's salaried developers will also be involved), the Hama
  Community is very active and things should balance out fairly quickly.
  In the meantime,  NHN, corp will support the project in the future by
  dedicating 'work time' to Hama, so that there is a smooth transition.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Edward.
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Grant Ingersoll
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:56 AM, edward yoon wrote:
 
  Dear IPMC,
 
  I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
  continue to discuss this.
  Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
  not a hadoop sub-project.
 
  Each different concept of project has inherently different
  characteristics for its domain,
  so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of
  their project.
  I think hama applies in this case, too.
 
  Seems reasonable to bring it back here at this point, since Hadoop
  has
  not responded.
 
  Can you fill in the background on the 4 proposed committers a bit?
  Do
  you all work together or not?  It's not clear from the proposal, as
  it
  seems to suggest that you don't (Homogenous Devs section), but then
  later in the Reliance on Salaried Devs it suggests that you 3 of you
  do, but it may just be I am misreading the proposal.
 
  -Grant
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-04-01 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Dear Bertrand, Thanks for your help.

 IMHO, if no one is interested in mentoring (dunno if it is the case),
 that might be a good sign that your project needs to grow a community
 elsewhere before entering incubation.

That seems like a fair bet. I'll rev up the community of the hama and
recruit the mentors for this project.

Thanks.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ... BTW, I wonder whether mentor is badly needed.
   Someone please reply to me

 Yes, at least one mentor, and ideally up to three, are needed for a
 project to enter incubation.

 IMHO, if no one is interested in mentoring (dunno if it is the case),
 that might be a good sign that your project needs to grow a community
 elsewhere before entering incubation.

 -Bertrand


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-28 Thread Min Cha
As I mentioned before, I think the collaboration of Hama and Mahout is very
effective and beautiful.

I think it will be useful in Mahout, if there are Java APIs exposed.
-
Maybe, we could provide more things as well as Java APIs.
As time goes by, moreover, Hama will need a smart user as Hahout because
good feedbacks make a good software. :)

Cheers!

p.s Grant, thinks for your interest to Hama.

2008/3/28, Grant Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 +1 on bringing this into incubation.  I think it still needs a mentor
 and I am also concerned about lack of interest from Hadoop, but they
 have their own fish to fry, as they say, and it shouldn't stop this
 from going forward.

 I think it will be useful in Mahout, if there are Java APIs exposed.

 -Grant


 On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:29 PM, edward yoon wrote:

  Thank you very much for your advice.
  I was going to fix that.
 
  Last year I worked as a full-time open source developer at RD center
  at NHN (search service company) for hadoop and hbase, and now i worked
  for development projects in real service areas. Some (minchang,
  changhee) are my fellow workers, Others { chanwit (Student), yongho
  (TMAX software, database company), taehui (KRIBB, biomedical
  government research center) } are came from hadoop community.
 
  --
  == Homogenous Developers ==
 
  The current list of committers includes developers from several
  different companies ( NHN, corp, TMAX software, Korea Research
  Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, Students) plus many
  independent volunteers. The committers are geographically distributed
  across the Europe, and Asia. They are experienced with working in a
  distributed environment.
 
  == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
 
  It is expected that Hama development will occur on both salaried time
  and on volunteer time, after hours. While there is reliance on
  salaried developers (currently from  NHN, corp, but it's expected that
  other company's salaried developers will also be involved), the Hama
  Community is very active and things should balance out fairly quickly.
  In the meantime,  NHN, corp will support the project in the future by
  dedicating 'work time' to Hama, so that there is a smooth transition.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Edward.
 
  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Grant Ingersoll
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:56 AM, edward yoon wrote:
 
  Dear IPMC,
 
  I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
  continue to discuss this.
  Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
  not a hadoop sub-project.
 
  Each different concept of project has inherently different
  characteristics for its domain,
  so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of
  their project.
  I think hama applies in this case, too.
 
  Seems reasonable to bring it back here at this point, since Hadoop
  has
  not responded.
 
  Can you fill in the background on the 4 proposed committers a bit?
  Do
  you all work together or not?  It's not clear from the proposal, as
  it
  seems to suggest that you don't (Homogenous Devs section), but then
  later in the Reliance on Salaried Devs it suggests that you 3 of you
  do, but it may just be I am misreading the proposal.
 
  -Grant
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-27 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Dear IPMC,

I'd like to know what's going on in the proposal.
If there isn't any problem, I would assume this could be encouraged
further to vote.

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-27 Thread Grant Ingersoll
+1 on bringing this into incubation.  I think it still needs a mentor  
and I am also concerned about lack of interest from Hadoop, but they  
have their own fish to fry, as they say, and it shouldn't stop this  
from going forward.


I think it will be useful in Mahout, if there are Java APIs exposed.

-Grant

On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:29 PM, edward yoon wrote:


Thank you very much for your advice.
I was going to fix that.

Last year I worked as a full-time open source developer at RD center
at NHN (search service company) for hadoop and hbase, and now i worked
for development projects in real service areas. Some (minchang,
changhee) are my fellow workers, Others { chanwit (Student), yongho
(TMAX software, database company), taehui (KRIBB, biomedical
government research center) } are came from hadoop community.

--
== Homogenous Developers ==

The current list of committers includes developers from several
different companies ( NHN, corp, TMAX software, Korea Research
Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, Students) plus many
independent volunteers. The committers are geographically distributed
across the Europe, and Asia. They are experienced with working in a
distributed environment.

== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

It is expected that Hama development will occur on both salaried time
and on volunteer time, after hours. While there is reliance on
salaried developers (currently from  NHN, corp, but it's expected that
other company's salaried developers will also be involved), the Hama
Community is very active and things should balance out fairly quickly.
In the meantime,  NHN, corp will support the project in the future by
dedicating 'work time' to Hama, so that there is a smooth transition.


Thanks,
Edward.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Grant Ingersoll  
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On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:56 AM, edward yoon wrote:


Dear IPMC,

I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
continue to discuss this.
Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
not a hadoop sub-project.

Each different concept of project has inherently different
characteristics for its domain,
so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of
their project.
I think hama applies in this case, too.


Seems reasonable to bring it back here at this point, since Hadoop  
has

not responded.

Can you fill in the background on the 4 proposed committers a bit?   
Do
you all work together or not?  It's not clear from the proposal, as  
it

seems to suggest that you don't (Homogenous Devs section), but then
later in the Reliance on Salaried Devs it suggests that you 3 of you
do, but it may just be I am misreading the proposal.

-Grant
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-25 Thread Grant Ingersoll


On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:56 AM, edward yoon wrote:


Dear IPMC,

I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
continue to discuss this.
Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
not a hadoop sub-project.

Each different concept of project has inherently different
characteristics for its domain,
so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of  
their project.

I think hama applies in this case, too.


Seems reasonable to bring it back here at this point, since Hadoop has  
not responded.


Can you fill in the background on the 4 proposed committers a bit?  Do  
you all work together or not?  It's not clear from the proposal, as it  
seems to suggest that you don't (Homogenous Devs section), but then  
later in the Reliance on Salaried Devs it suggests that you 3 of you  
do, but it may just be I am misreading the proposal.


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-25 Thread edward yoon
Thank you very much for your advice.
I was going to fix that.

Last year I worked as a full-time open source developer at RD center
at NHN (search service company) for hadoop and hbase, and now i worked
for development projects in real service areas. Some (minchang,
changhee) are my fellow workers, Others { chanwit (Student), yongho
(TMAX software, database company), taehui (KRIBB, biomedical
government research center) } are came from hadoop community.

--
== Homogenous Developers ==

The current list of committers includes developers from several
different companies ( NHN, corp, TMAX software, Korea Research
Institute of Bioscience and Biotechnology, Students) plus many
independent volunteers. The committers are geographically distributed
across the Europe, and Asia. They are experienced with working in a
distributed environment.

== Reliance on Salaried Developers ==

It is expected that Hama development will occur on both salaried time
and on volunteer time, after hours. While there is reliance on
salaried developers (currently from  NHN, corp, but it's expected that
other company's salaried developers will also be involved), the Hama
Community is very active and things should balance out fairly quickly.
In the meantime,  NHN, corp will support the project in the future by
dedicating 'work time' to Hama, so that there is a smooth transition.


Thanks,
Edward.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Grant Ingersoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:56 AM, edward yoon wrote:

  Dear IPMC,
 
  I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
  continue to discuss this.
  Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
  not a hadoop sub-project.
 
  Each different concept of project has inherently different
  characteristics for its domain,
  so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of
  their project.
  I think hama applies in this case, too.

 Seems reasonable to bring it back here at this point, since Hadoop has
 not responded.

 Can you fill in the background on the 4 proposed committers a bit?  Do
 you all work together or not?  It's not clear from the proposal, as it
 seems to suggest that you don't (Homogenous Devs section), but then
 later in the Reliance on Salaried Devs it suggests that you 3 of you
 do, but it may just be I am misreading the proposal.

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-24 Thread edward yoon
Dear IPMC,

I´m still waiting for hadoop's answer, but IMO, I would like to
continue to discuss this.
Apache (incubator) Pig project is built on top of Hadoop, but it is
not a hadoop sub-project.

Each different concept of project has inherently different
characteristics for its domain,
so by knowing the concept of project, we can get a clear view of their project.
I think hama applies in this case, too.

Thanks,
Edward.

On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 9:51 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks very much, Bertand.

 I don't see why there is no answer, but i will wait some more.

 http://www.nabble.com/Hama-contribution-td16168912.html

 See you next week.

 Thanks,
 Edward.


 On 3/20/08, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   ... If I knock on the hadoop but there is no answer. Can i re-open this
incubation proposal?...
 
  I don't see why there would be no answer, but yes, nothing prevents
  you from reopening this proposal later if needed.
 
  Given that three Lucene PMC members expressed concerns in this thread,
  though, I guess we'd want to have their opinion before going any
  further.
 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... If I knock on the hadoop but there is no answer. Can i re-open this
  incubation proposal?...

I don't see why there would be no answer, but yes, nothing prevents
you from reopening this proposal later if needed.

Given that three Lucene PMC members expressed concerns in this thread,
though, I guess we'd want to have their opinion before going any
further.

-Bertrand

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-20 Thread edward yoon
Thanks very much, Bertand.

I don't see why there is no answer, but i will wait some more.

http://www.nabble.com/Hama-contribution-td16168912.html

See you next week.

Thanks,
Edward.

On 3/20/08, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:42 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ... If I knock on the hadoop but there is no answer. Can i re-open this
   incubation proposal?...

 I don't see why there would be no answer, but yes, nothing prevents
 you from reopening this proposal later if needed.

 Given that three Lucene PMC members expressed concerns in this thread,
 though, I guess we'd want to have their opinion before going any
 further.

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-19 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Edward,

I was going to email you about this weeks ago, when I first saw this proposal.  
You are working in a vacuum too much, I think that's the main problem.  You are 
mentioning private e-mails, and that doesn't sound right.  Bring this up in the 
open on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and state what you'd like.  I, like Yonik and Grant, 
feel that this fits very well under Hadoop, either as a sub-project or a simply 
a contrib.

I *believe* that if you go the sub-project route, and especially if you simply 
make Hama a Hadoop contrib, no incubation is necessary, as long as Hadoop PMC 
welcomes the code.  Much simpler.

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- Original Message 
From: edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:02:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

 Do you have a mail thread reference?

 This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
 like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
 at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.

http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00136.html

But, i much talked about it via private e-mail.
They gave me a welcome, However, They also all share the need to make
incubation progress.

Thanks,
Edward.

On 3/19/08, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
 like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
 at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.

 I see you opened
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
 what's the status of that?

 -Yonik

 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear Incubator PMC,
   I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
   and report back any concerns.
 
   http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal
 
   Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
   project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
   for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
   beset with difficulties. Hence the list of committers, etc. And now we
   all agree that the Hama should aim to general purpose rathen than it
   becomes a specified piece in something.
 
   
  http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28MAHOUT-16%29-Hama-contrib-package-for-the-mahout-to15998717.html
   https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
 
   If you think this will make a good ASF project, please encourage our
   team members to create the world's largest matrix computational
   framework.
 
   Thanks.
   B. Regards,
   Edward yoon @ NHN, corp.
 
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-19 Thread edward yoon
Thanks for your review.

Hmm. In fact, i was mentioned about it 1 years ago.

If I knock on the hadoop but there is no answer. Can i re-open this
incubation proposal?

And, How long should i wait for the answer?

Thanks,
Edward.

On 3/20/08, Otis Gospodnetic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Edward,

 I was going to email you about this weeks ago, when I first saw this 
 proposal.  You are working in a vacuum too much, I think that's the main 
 problem.  You are mentioning private e-mails, and that doesn't sound right.  
 Bring this up in the open on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and state what you'd like.  I, 
 like Yonik and Grant, feel that this fits very well under Hadoop, either as a 
 sub-project or a simply a contrib.

 I *believe* that if you go the sub-project route, and especially if you 
 simply make Hama a Hadoop contrib, no incubation is necessary, as long as 
 Hadoop PMC welcomes the code.  Much simpler.

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 - Original Message 
 From: edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:02:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

  Do you have a mail thread reference?

  This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
  like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
  at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00136.html

 But, i much talked about it via private e-mail.
 They gave me a welcome, However, They also all share the need to make
 incubation progress.

 Thanks,
 Edward.

 On 3/19/08, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
  like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
  at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.
 
  I see you opened
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
  what's the status of that?
 
  -Yonik
 
  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Dear Incubator PMC,
I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
and report back any concerns.
  
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal
  
Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
beset with difficulties. Hence the list of committers, etc. And now we
all agree that the Hama should aim to general purpose rathen than it
becomes a specified piece in something.
  

   http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28MAHOUT-16%29-Hama-contrib-package-for-the-mahout-to15998717.html
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
  
If you think this will make a good ASF project, please encourage our
team members to create the world's largest matrix computational
framework.
  
Thanks.
B. Regards,
Edward yoon @ NHN, corp.
  
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[DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-18 Thread edward yoon
Dear Incubator PMC,
I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
and report back any concerns.

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal

Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
beset with difficulties. Hence the list of committers, etc. And now we
all agree that the Hama should aim to general purpose rathen than it
becomes a specified piece in something.

http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28MAHOUT-16%29-Hama-contrib-package-for-the-mahout-to15998717.html
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878

If you think this will make a good ASF project, please encourage our
team members to create the world's largest matrix computational
framework.

Thanks.
B. Regards,
Edward yoon @ NHN, corp.

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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-18 Thread Grant Ingersoll



On Mar 18, 2008, at 8:02 AM, edward yoon wrote:


Dear Incubator PMC,
I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
and report back any concerns.

http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal

Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
beset with difficulties.


What's the issue w/ Hadoop sub project (I already know the Mahout  
discussion)?  Do you have a mail thread reference?  I'm not trying to  
push anything on the Hadoop PMC, but this logically seems to fit there  
in my mind as a subproject, but I suppose it could be a TLP as well.


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Re: [DISCUSSION] Hama Proposal

2008-03-18 Thread Yonik Seeley
This seems small enough in scope and so tied to Hadoop that it seems
like it should either just be part of one of the hadoop sub-projects or
at a maximum, a hadoop sub-project of it's own.

I see you opened
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878
what's the status of that?

-Yonik

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:02 AM, edward yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Incubator PMC,
  I've updated the Hama project proposal. Please review/update as needed
  and report back any concerns.

  http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HamaProposal

  Hama has a strong relationship with the hadoop, hbase and mahout
  project, so i discussed about become a sub-project of these project
  for a long time with the each community. However, The sub-project was
  beset with difficulties. Hence the list of committers, etc. And now we
  all agree that the Hama should aim to general purpose rathen than it
  becomes a specified piece in something.

  
 http://www.nabble.com/-jira--Created%3A-%28MAHOUT-16%29-Hama-contrib-package-for-the-mahout-to15998717.html
  https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-2878

  If you think this will make a good ASF project, please encourage our
  team members to create the world's largest matrix computational
  framework.

  Thanks.
  B. Regards,
  Edward yoon @ NHN, corp.

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