Re: Project templates
On 6/13/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/13/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:02:42PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. both would be best a lot of projects are still maven 1. what would be great is a maven 2 ready maven 1 build as well as a maven 2 build. Paul's focus may be M1 as I think Synapse/Axis are using it. Tuscany is using M2 so if Paul wants to work on M1 I'm willing to come up with a similar template for M2 (I would propose as an archetype mojo). Would this be an appropriate thing to check into incubator SVN I would say so. +1 , and if so where? incubator/public/trunk/template/maven[12] ? Sure! +1 i'm going to start working on some templates under the given URL. i've taken a look at the synapse build and we'll probably need to include templates for both multi- and single-project builds for maven. hopefully people will jump in with improvements... - robert
Re: Project templates
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:02:42PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. both would be best a lot of projects are still maven 1. what would be great is a maven 2 ready maven 1 build as well as a maven 2 build. Paul's focus may be M1 as I think Synapse/Axis are using it. Tuscany is using M2 so if Paul wants to work on M1 I'm willing to come up with a similar template for M2 (I would propose as an archetype mojo). Would this be an appropriate thing to check into incubator SVN I would say so. , and if so where? incubator/public/trunk/template/maven[12] ? Sure! LSD - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project templates
On 6/13/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 06:02:42PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. both would be best a lot of projects are still maven 1. what would be great is a maven 2 ready maven 1 build as well as a maven 2 build. Paul's focus may be M1 as I think Synapse/Axis are using it. Tuscany is using M2 so if Paul wants to work on M1 I'm willing to come up with a similar template for M2 (I would propose as an archetype mojo). Would this be an appropriate thing to check into incubator SVN I would say so. +1 , and if so where? incubator/public/trunk/template/maven[12] ? Sure! +1 i've committed an extremely rough draft for a learn release management document here: http://incubator.apache.org/learn/releasemanagement.html. (it's more of a skeleton really.) it's rough for a reason - IMO it'd work much better developed from the experiences of those who've been through the incubator (as opposed to someone sitting down for a few days and writing up something polished). please dive in and patch - you can't make it any worse ;-) i've tried to come up with a rough structure that should allow folks to create bit sized patches rather than lengthy prose. we can tie it up later once the content's there. ATM the content is mostly java since that's what i know best but hopefully that'll change. - robert
Re: Project templates
On 6/9/06, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:15:25AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. both would be best a lot of projects are still maven 1. what would be great is a maven 2 ready maven 1 build as well as a maven 2 build. - robert
Re: Project templates
robert burrell donkin wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. both would be best a lot of projects are still maven 1. what would be great is a maven 2 ready maven 1 build as well as a maven 2 build. Paul's focus may be M1 as I think Synapse/Axis are using it. Tuscany is using M2 so if Paul wants to work on M1 I'm willing to come up with a similar template for M2 (I would propose as an archetype mojo). Would this be an appropriate thing to check into incubator SVN, and if so where? incubator/public/trunk/template/maven[12] ? -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project templates
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:15:25AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. -- justin *cheer*! Go, Paul, go! :-) LSD, who loves it when a plan comes together... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project templates
On 6/7/06, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon It probably makes far more sense to make that Maven 2.x. -- justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project templates
I will try to get a template based on Maven 1.x ready for ApacheCon based on what we've put together for Synapse. If I can persuade the Synapse team to help me it might happen. I don't believe that we should view these templates as normative but rather as a useful aid and also that they should be considered Work In Progress and that Incubator projects be encouraged to see them as something that can be improved. But I fully agree that unless we have a few of these it won't seem that way. Paul On 6/7/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/3/06, Samisa Abeysinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Fremantle wrote: I have no argument with someone providing such a template, but I would strongly object to any implication that Maven was mandated. We are not going to endorse Maven as the official build tool for ASF Java projects. Sure, and an Ant project shell can do all of that, too, probably sharing most of the same artifacts as the Maven project shell. +1. I agree that both Ant and Maven, and if someone was willing to contribute, maybe a Makefile too :-) I too think that whatever template should be compatible with Makefile too. one of the general issues which i find keeps cropping up when trying to document is that the ASF tries to keep any rules minimal (to reduce friction). but there's a big gulf between the minimal requirements and good practice. projects need to have freedom to do it their way but quite a lot of reasonably good practice has been assembled by painful experience over the years and in many areas podlings would be well advised to consider adopting these practices. guidelines need to be descriptive rather than prescriptive or normative. IMHO templates need to describe reasonable approaches using maven, ant, make, nant or whatever rather than endorsing or recommending any particular approach. anyone feel like contributing a template or two? - robert -- Paul Fremantle VP/Technology, WSO2 and OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oxygenating the Web Service Platform, www.wso2.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
