Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-03-25 Thread chrosken

Can someone please give me a hand on this issue.

Thank you.


chrosken wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 We have a clusters of machine and would like to setup network booting. At
 this time, we have to go to the data center and boot the machine manually.
 We would like to manage it as best as we could where we can save time and
 money. I heard network booting is a good way to go. I'm not sure how does
 network booting work, and also not sure if this is possible with Gentoo
 operating system. Sorry for the dumb questions, I am totally new to
 Networking.
 
 Can someone please point me to the right direction?
 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 

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Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-03-25 Thread Alex Howells
On 25/03/2008, chrosken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Can someone please give me a hand on this issue.

  Thank you.

You will need to consider OOB access to the servers via serial
console, or perhaps iLo2 / DRAC (HP and Dell); having a way to
remotely powercycle the boxes is also a pretty neat feature, so APC
Masterswitch PDUs, or iLo2 / DRAC?

Next step is to setup DHCP as your boxes need to grab a valid lease;
their BIOSes need to be configure to boot off the network interface,
then you can get a PXE menu built.  You'll login via the serial
console, or iLo2/DRAC to 'interface' with the network boot environment
:)

Go read, there's plenty about all this on the web.
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Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-03-25 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 20:01 Tue 25 Mar , Alex Howells wrote:
 On 25/03/2008, chrosken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Can someone please give me a hand on this issue.
 
   Thank you.
 
 Next step is to setup DHCP as your boxes need to grab a valid lease;
 their BIOSes need to be configure to boot off the network interface,
 then you can get a PXE menu built.  You'll login via the serial
 
 Go read, there's plenty about all this on the web.
Hello,

This can be useful. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml ,

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Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-01-25 Thread Ramon van Alteren

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chrosken wrote:
| We have a clusters of machine and would like to setup network booting. At
| this time, we have to go to the data center and boot the machine manually.
| We would like to manage it as best as we could where we can save time and
| money. I heard network booting is a good way to go. I'm not sure how does
| network booting work, and also not sure if this is possible with Gentoo
| operating system. Sorry for the dumb questions, I am totally new to
| Networking.
|
| Can someone please point me to the right direction?
|
| Any help is appreciated.
|

You want to take a look at:

pxebooting
grub + netbooting

I remember seeing a demo from yamin at a gentoo UK conference demoing
netbooting with a genkernel kernel

Additionally ipmi would be interesting. ipmi is a standard for remote
management bioses, many of them are network enabled. At least all dell
servers have them, Sun hardware has something similar (they invented the
ipmi standard IIRC) and HP hardware... wel you get the picture.

Most of these BMC-chips allow for remote network control of bios
settings including power. They are reachable as soon as the server is
connected to a powersupply (doesn't have to be on)

We've build a system of catalyst, pxe+grub-netbooting + agaffneys
quick-install + puppet that uses pxe to start bare-metal servers and
bring up to production config in 45 minutes. We're busy enhancing that
with ipmi so we never need to go into the datacenter if we hire someone
to rack the servers.

All servers have a grub config which defaults to normal HD-based booting
but also have an option to netboot and possible re-install.

So, it's very possible with Gentoo :-)

Regards,

Ramon van Alteren

Senior System Administrator Hyves.nl
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Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-01-25 Thread Panagiotis Christopoulos
On 15:45 Thu 24 Jan , chrosken wrote:
 
 Hi,
Hello,
 
 We have a clusters of machine and would like to setup network booting. At
 this time, we have to go to the data center and boot the machine manually.
 We would like to manage it as best as we could where we can save time and
 money. I heard network booting is a good way to go. I'm not sure how does
 network booting work, and also not sure if this is possible with Gentoo
 operating system. Sorry for the dumb questions, I am totally new to
 Networking.
 
 Can someone please point me to the right direction?

If the only thing you want is to power on, your machinery, and nothing
more(such as load a kernel via network, or create diskless nodes with a shared 
nfs
root), then checkout two possibilities. The first one is to see if you
have any hardware controller such as hewllet packard's iLO(Integrated
Lights-Out), or intel's ipmi (Intelligent Platform Management Interface)
in your machines. If you 've got an IPMI device you will be able to
use eg. ipmitool from another machine, to start your cluster, power off
your cluster, and do some more management, eg. seeing temperatures and
speed of fans. If you owe an HP proliant server with iLO, you will be
able to telnet or ssh inside the software interface iLO provides(every
controller takes an IP), and do
some work, such as power on/off your machines again. iLO offers a web
interface too, but I hate that, cause you have to pay to load another
firmware to be able to do more.. For ipmi do a search in portage to see
the tools available by gentoo (emerge --search ipmi). 

If your hardware is
not so valuable to have such controllers, then hopefully you will be
able to send a wake on lan magic packet, to power on you machines. 
(see in portage, net-misc/wakeonlan and net-misc/wol for such tools,
and read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN). 

If you want something more than that, start by reading something like 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml
It's about how to create diskless nodes with gentoo, and it's not what
you want I suppose, but it has some doc about PXElinux and etherboot,
and how to create a shiny dhcp server for this stuff(+more).

Panagiotis Christopoulos

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Re: [gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-01-25 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:31 Fri 25 Jan , Ramon van Alteren wrote:
 I remember seeing a demo from yamin at a gentoo UK conference demoing
 netbooting with a genkernel kernel

That's the genkernel-4 code. I've used it for diskless setups and it 
works quite nicely. It's living on gentooexperimental.org at the moment.

 We've build a system of catalyst, pxe+grub-netbooting + agaffneys
 quick-install + puppet that uses pxe to start bare-metal servers and
 bring up to production config in 45 minutes. 

Any chance you could share some puppet configs? It would be great to 
build a library of Gentoo puppet/cfengine stuff.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-cluster] Network Booting

2008-01-24 Thread chrosken

Hi,

We have a clusters of machine and would like to setup network booting. At
this time, we have to go to the data center and boot the machine manually.
We would like to manage it as best as we could where we can save time and
money. I heard network booting is a good way to go. I'm not sure how does
network booting work, and also not sure if this is possible with Gentoo
operating system. Sorry for the dumb questions, I am totally new to
Networking.

Can someone please point me to the right direction?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!
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