[gentoo-dev] Timetable for removing digest-* files

2007-01-09 Thread Petteri Räty
As the Manifest 2 format makes the digest-* files unnecessary, does
anyone have a timetable for removing the digest files? Would be great if
we could make this one of the features of 2007.0.

Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-video/nvidia-freebsd

2007-01-09 Thread Timothy Redaelli
# Timothy Redaelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] (09 Jan 2007):
# Deprecated by x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers
# Pending removal 2007/2/9
media-video/nvidia-freebsd

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[gentoo-dev] misc/herds.xml file gone.

2007-01-09 Thread Bryan Østergaard
Hi all.

I just killed the misc/herds.xml file in the gentoo CVS repository so
that we only have one copy of herds.xml left now. The remaining copy is
in xml/htdocs/proj/en/metastructure/herds. See bug 151324 for the
discussion leading to this. I also left a misc/herds.old.xml file
pointing to the new location.

Hopefully there'll be no more confusion about which copy to update now.

Regards,
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[gentoo-dev] new eclass: ant-tasks.eclass

2007-01-09 Thread Vlastimil Babka
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I've created a new eclass [1] for easier mainenance of new packages
which will be created as part of split-ant effort [2]. There will be
some 19 packages (dev-java/ant-* except ant-core, ant-tasks and some
external tasks like ant-owanttasks) using it, sharing the same distfiles
and build logic. Currently they are in a special overlay [3].

I would like to add it to the tree soon, possibly this weekend.

[1]
https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/split-ant-overlay/eclass/ant-tasks.eclass
[2] https://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/java/wiki/Split_Ant
[3] https://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/java/split-ant-overlay/dev-java/

Regards,
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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-apps/pcsc-ase-iiie-drv

2007-01-09 Thread Alon Bar-Lev

Hello,

Users that uses the above package should move to:
app-crypt/asedriveiiie-serial
app-crypt/asedriveiiie-usb

Best Regards,
Alon Bar-Lev.
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[gentoo-dev] Last Rites for games-action/d1x

2007-01-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
# Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] (09 Jan 2007)
# This has been dead upstream for close to eternity and is broken with GCC 4.x.
# Use games-action/d1x-rebirth instead.  This will be removed on (09 Feb 2007).
games-action/d1x

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentle reminder about ChangeLog entries on profiles

2007-01-09 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 15:52 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
 I was referring to all of profiles/ in general.
 
 It came to me because antarus was looking for vapier to see why
 profiles/lang.desc existed.
 
 I'm thinking that keeping track of the very top level stuff like
 thirdpartymirrors, use{,.local}.desc, updates/, desc/ would benefit from
 ChangeLogs, for people that have them from rsync, instead of CVS.

Well, I've added a ChangeLog to profiles... If there's any objections
from anyone, they can feel free to remove it, or something.

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[gentoo-dev] gentoo can't boot

2007-01-09 Thread rami jiossy
Hi;
i am booting gentoo on my Napa machine but it freezes on copying read-write 
contents to tmpfs. 
any help?  i am using gentoo i686 livecd.

with minimal-x86 i am booting fine, but it keeps failing in installer and 
sometimes decides to shutdown for some reason.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo can't boot

2007-01-09 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 11:20 -0800, rami jiossy wrote:
 Hi;
 i am booting gentoo on my Napa machine but it freezes on copying
 read-write contents to tmpfs. 
 any help?  i am using gentoo i686 livecd.
  
 with minimal-x86 i am booting fine, but it keeps failing in installer
 and sometimes decides to shutdown for some reason.
  
 Thanks

There's an installer?  Last time I installed Gentoo, all I got was a
LiveCD and a link to the handbook.  Incidentally, this thread probably
belongs on the gentoo-user list.


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[gentoo-dev] New developer: Robert Clark (hyakuhei)

2007-01-09 Thread Christian Heim

It's my pleasure to introduce to you Robert Clark (also known as hyakuhei),
our latest addition helping with forensics.

Robert is joining from Aberystwyth (that's in Wales, UK). He's currently 
halfway through his degree (at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth), 
currently taking part in a one year program with ALICE (no that's not his 
fiancée, ALICE stands for A Large Ion Collider Experiment operated by CERN 
in Genève, Switzerland).

He's perfectly aware of C/C++, ebuilds and bash scripts, also knows how to 
work with python. He also has a great interest in information security related 
stuff (Tavis, look out :)) and spends way to much time on war games 
servers (his own words!). 

When he's not sitting in front of his computer, he tries to spend time with 
his family (only when he's back in England or his fiancée is visiting him in 
Genève), enjoys shooting others in the rump with arrows ^H^H^H shooting the 
arrows at the bull's eye and lifting a 1t [1] anvil, ^H^H^H (again) weights.

Please welcome Robert as a new fellow developer among us !

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

(Thanks Alec and Joshua)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Timetable for removing digest-* files

2007-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
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Petteri Räty wrote:
 As the Manifest 2 format makes the digest-* files unnecessary, does
 anyone have a timetable for removing the digest files? Would be great if
 we could make this one of the features of 2007.0.

I think it's still too early.  Recall that 2006.1 was the first to
to include Manifest 2 support (=sys-apps/portage-2.1).  The sooner
we eliminate digest-* files, the more false missing digest bug
reports we'll get.

Zac
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Timetable for removing digest-* files

2007-01-09 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:12:55 +0200
Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As the Manifest 2 format makes the digest-* files unnecessary, does
 anyone have a timetable for removing the digest files? Would be great
 if we could make this one of the features of 2007.0.

Our plan was to disable digest generation in portage-2.1.3 which won't
be ready for 2007.0.

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Robert Clark (hyakuhei)

2007-01-09 Thread Alex Howells

On 09/01/07, Christian Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's my pleasure to introduce to you Robert Clark (also known as hyakuhei),
our latest addition helping with forensics.


Everyone better read up on securely scrubbing those hard drives ;)


Robert is joining from Aberystwyth (that's in Wales, UK). He's currently
halfway through his degree (at the University of Wales, Aberystwyth),
currently taking part in a one year program with ALICE (no that's not his
fiancée, ALICE stands for A Large Ion Collider Experiment operated by CERN
in Genève, Switzerland).


Mmm, Aberystwyth; land of sea and sheep!


He's perfectly aware of C/C++, ebuilds and bash scripts, also knows how to
work with python. He also has a great interest in information security related
stuff (Tavis, look out :)) and spends way to much time on war games
servers (his own words!).


Pfft, he's got nothing on Tavis - yet!


When he's not sitting in front of his computer, he tries to spend time with
his family (only when he's back in England or his fiancée is visiting him in
Genève), enjoys shooting others in the rump with arrows ^H^H^H shooting the
arrows at the bull's eye and lifting a 1t [1] anvil, ^H^H^H (again) weights.

Please welcome Robert as a new fellow developer among us !


Welcome :D  Nice to see you got through the forty days of challenges
(aka: Quizzes), now it's Pin the Bug on the Newb time. Hereby
introducing our resident bug nut, I give you Jakub, with a fresh
supply of pins ;)

Ciao,
Alex

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Re: [gentoo-dev] QA checks merged into portage SVN

2007-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
Alec Warner wrote:
 Note, the examples above could be improved by prefixing your variables
 (you don't want global collisions, trust me)
 
 So fex KDE_SHOPTS or KDE_OLD_IFS instead of just OLD_IFS.
 

And as Caster pointed out on irc, this is only a problem if a local var
won't cut it; a local should work for most cases I think (but not
versionator.eclass, which I'm attempting to fix soon).

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[gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-09 Thread Zac Medico
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Hi everyone,

Bug #161045 [1] requests that portage support RESTRICT=sandbox.
This is certainly a valid request but a user may wish to reject a
package based on certain questionable values of RESTRICT.  Examples
other than sandbox incude unattended [2] and userpriv [3].

I suggest that we add support for a new incremental variable called
ACCEPT_RESTRICT so that a user can accept or reject restrictions.
Much like package.keywords, we can also have a package.restrict file
located in /etc/portage for per-package settings.  Thoughts?

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161045
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0052.html
[3] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159876
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[gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hi *,

both app-misc/lcdproc and app-misc/lcd4linux can use numerous kinds of
displays. The device selections are right now handled via environment
variables and/or single use flags.

I would like to unify possible devices via the USE_EXPAND'ed
LCD_DEVICES. Right now, this would contain about 50 devices [1].

Out of these, some common devices should be installed by default (these
are considered default by lcdproc upstream, too):
LCD_DEVICES=bayrad CFontz CFontz633 curses CwLnx glk lb216 lcdm001
 MtxOrb pyramid text

This will of course introduce changes in the configurations for lcdproc
and lcd4linux users, but I think that it needs to be done and the
changes are mostly renaming USE flags and environment variables.

If no one objects, I'd like to implement these changes. But there are
some questions still open:
* Who will add the entries to base/make.defaults? Can I do this?
* Should the defaults and the USE_EXPAND entry be in base/ even though
  both programs do not are not keyworded for all arches?

Regards,

Robert

[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~rbu/lcd_devices.desc





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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-09 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:23:55 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:41:50 -0800 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | Bug #161045 [1] requests that portage support RESTRICT=sandbox.
 | This is certainly a valid request but a user may wish to reject a
 | package based on certain questionable values of RESTRICT. 
 
 If a RESTRICT value is questionable, it shouldn't be supported or
 used.
 
 Honestly, this strikes me as rather silly and rather dangerous.
 RESTRICT is not something about which the end user should have to
 know or care; it should be something entirely between ebuilds and the
 package manager. And sandbox is not something that should be turned
 off lightly; making it so easy will only encourage developers to take
 the nasty way out rather than fixing simple bugs.

I agree; it'd be useful to know exactly what is failing the sandbox and
why, with the aim of fixing sandbox if it isn't quite up to the job.

The only shortcoming I'm aware of in sandbox is bug #135745 (have
fopen/open() fail normally if the file does not exist, rather than
report a violation).  Waiting on azarah to roll a new sandbox version,
I think.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:15:45 +0100 Robert Buchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| I would like to unify possible devices via the USE_EXPAND'ed
| LCD_DEVICES. Right now, this would contain about 50 devices [1].

How standardised is the naming of these devices?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Add LCD_DEVICES to USE_EXPAND

2007-01-09 Thread Robert Buchholz
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb:
 On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:15:45 +0100 Robert Buchholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | I would like to unify possible devices via the USE_EXPAND'ed
 | LCD_DEVICES. Right now, this would contain about 50 devices [1].
 
 How standardised is the naming of these devices?

It's not. It's the union of the (upstream) driver's names in lcdproc and
lcd4linux. Those devices that are supported by both programs had the
lcdproc name staying and the lcd4linux one cut.

It's also hard to standardise the names as some of the drivers are not
actual devices (as curses or X11) while others stand for a whole family
of devices or can talk to several different devices depending on the
user configuration.

Regdards,

Robert



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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
Kevin F. Quinn wrote:
 On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:23:55 +
 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:41:50 -0800 Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 | Bug #161045 [1] requests that portage support RESTRICT=sandbox.
 | This is certainly a valid request but a user may wish to reject a
 | package based on certain questionable values of RESTRICT. 

 If a RESTRICT value is questionable, it shouldn't be supported or
 used.

 Honestly, this strikes me as rather silly and rather dangerous.
 RESTRICT is not something about which the end user should have to
 know or care; it should be something entirely between ebuilds and the
 package manager. And sandbox is not something that should be turned
 off lightly; making it so easy will only encourage developers to take
 the nasty way out rather than fixing simple bugs.

RESTRICT=fetch is between the package, the manager, and the user (as
someone has to fetch the files).

RESTRICT=unattended is also between the package, the manager, and the
user, as the user has to insert CD's for certain packages (most in
games).  However unattanded is not currently implemented, only proposed.

Maybe if we move these to a new metadata key or something, Looking over
the other RESTRICT values they all seem to be (ebuild,PM) tuples, not
anything the user would care about.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ACCEPT_RESTRICT for questionable values of RESTRICT

2007-01-09 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 21:13:14 -0500 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| RESTRICT=fetch is between the package, the manager, and the user (as
| someone has to fetch the files).

Except that the user shouldn't have to care about it then either. The
user need only care when a package requires manually downloaded files.
In particular, if the files are already fetched, then the value of
RESTRICT is irrelevant to the end user.

Control over packages requiring manual intervention is good (packages
not requiring intervention is, of course, an awful lot better). This
proposal doesn't seem to be a very good way of getting it, however.

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