[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-plugins/quodlibet-plugins

[Matthias Maier]

# Matthias Maier  (06 Jan 2016)
# Obsolete package, nowadays bundled with media-sound/quodlibet
# Masked for removal in 30 days
media-plugins/quodlibet-plugins


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[gentoo-dev] New project: Desktop Miscellaneous

[Michael Palimaka]

I am announcing the Desktop Miscellaneous project[1], to replace the old
herd in preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67.

1: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Desktop_Miscellaneous

[gentoo-dev] New project: LiveCD

[Michael Palimaka]

I am announcing the LiveCD project[1], to replace the old herd in
preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67.

1: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:LiveCD

[gentoo-dev] New project: Debian Tools

[Michael Palimaka]

I am announcing the Debian Tools project[1], to replace the old herd in
preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67.

1: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Debian_Tools

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-java/struts

[Patrice Clement]

# Patrice Clement  (06 Jan 2016)
# Struts 2 and friends suffer from a lack of interest. These ebuilds are
# outdated, riddled with CVEs (about 5 currently opened in Bugzilla) and some
# of them do not compile at all. Time to see them off.
# Masked for removal in 30 days. See bug #540888.
dev-java/struts-plugins
dev-java/struts-xwork
dev-java/struts-core
dev-java/struts

-- 
Patrice Clement
Gentoo Linux developer
http://www.gentoo.org


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[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: x11-wm/matchbox and co.

[Pacho Ramos]

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Those packages were meant to use on a PDA, no upsteam commits to git
since
# 3 years to most project parts. No releases, bug #560482. Removal in a
# month.
x11-libs/libmatchbox
x11-misc/matchbox-panel-manager
x11-plugins/matchbox-applet-input-manager
x11-plugins/matchbox-applet-startup-monitor
x11-plugins/matchbox-applet-volume
x11-plugins/matchbox-desktop-image-browser
x11-plugins/matchbox-desktop-xine
x11-wm/matchbox-common
x11-wm/matchbox-desktop
x11-wm/matchbox-panel
x11-wm/matchbox-window-manager
x11-themes/matchbox-themes-extra
x11-wm/matchbox
x11-misc/matchbox-keyboard

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-sound/mimd, sys-cluster/gfs-kernel, x11-misc/matchbox-panel-manager, app-misc/g15macro ,net-misc/italc, media-sound/sweep, x11-misc/dragbox,,sci-chemistry/gopenmol,net-im

[Pacho Ramos]

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #514778. Removal in a month.
media-sound/mimd

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #514826. Removal in a month.
sys-cluster/gfs-kernel

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #514832. Removal in a month.
x11-misc/matchbox-panel-manager

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #514980. Removal in a month.
app-misc/g15macro

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, security issues, bug #515272. Removal in a month.
net-misc/italc

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #515904. Removal in a month.
media-sound/sweep

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, fails to build, relies on deprecated libs, bug #515912.
# Removal in a month.
x11-misc/dragbox

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unfetchable, mirror-restricted, bug #521442. Removal in a month.
sci-chemistry/gopenmol

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unbuildable for a long time, bug #522916. Removal in a month.
net-im/silc-server

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Buggy and completely obsolete, bug #527488. Removal in a month.
x11-misc/alltray

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, dead since 2005, bug #528050. Removal in a month.
net-irc/asuka

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #528854. Removal in a month.
dev-ada/aunit

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #529434. Removal in a month.
app-emulation/aranym

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Multiple bugs and buggy ebuild, bug #533170. Removal in a month.
net-proxy/ntlmaps

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# microdc2 should be used instead, bug #533782. Removal in a month.
net-p2p/microdc

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, security issues, bug #536334. Removal in a month.
net-nds/389-ds-base
app-admin/389-ds-console
net-nds/389-admin
app-admin/389-admin-console
www-apps/389-dsgw

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #536418. Removal in a month.
dev-ada/xmlada
dev-ada/adadoc

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #536632. Removal in a month.
dev-util/piklab

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #537520. Removal in a month.
dev-ada/florist

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, security issues, bug #537528. Removal in a month
app-admin/usermin

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, cannot be downloaded, bug #537582. Removal in a month.
sys-block/lsiutil

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: app-admin/rigo, app-misc/magneto-loader, kde-misc/magneto-kde, x11-misc/magneto-gtk, x11-misc/magneto-gtk3, sys-apps/rigo-daemon, sys-apps/magneto-core, net-fs/tahoe-lafs, net-

[Pacho Ramos]

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Obsolete versions, updated ones living in Sabayon overlay, bug
#538142.
# Removal in a month.
app-admin/rigo
app-misc/magneto-loader
kde-misc/magneto-kde
x11-misc/magneto-gtk
x11-misc/magneto-gtk3
sys-apps/rigo-daemon
sys-apps/magneto-core

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Cannot be installed, bug #541626. Removal in a month.
net-fs/tahoe-lafs

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #542928. Removal in a month.
net-misc/kumofs

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #543210. Removal in a month.
media-sound/phasex

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #545090. Removal in a month.
x11-misc/bmpanel

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, obsolete, bug #545450. Removal in a month.
sys-cluster/xgridagent

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, upstream dead many years ago, bug #545692. Removal in
a
# month.
media-sound/muine

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #547290. Removal in a month.
sys-cluster/pacemaker-gui

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #547652. Removal in a month.
media-video/hwdecode-demos

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Unmaintained, upstream dead, doesn't work, bug #548920. Removal in a
# month.
app-admin/checkrestart

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, nothing in the tree needs this, bug #549686. Removal
in a
# month.
app-i18n/xsim

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Buggy, upstream dead for years, bug #550800. Removal in a month.
games-action/poopmup

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Dead upstream since 2009, nothing in the tree needs it anymore, bug
# #551354. Removal in a month.
net-proxy/sshproxy

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #551894. Removal in a month.
dev-python/Djblets
dev-util/reviewboard

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Security issues, bug #553604. Removal in a month.
net-mail/checkpw
# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #56. Removal in a month.
app-i18n/scim-canna

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Fails to build, bug #555840. Removal in a month.
app-misc/lcd-stuff

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Doesn't build with current kernels, lacks a maintainer to keep it
patched
# for compat with upcoming kernel versions too, bug #557422. Removal in
a
# month.
app-laptop/nvidiabl

# Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
# Upstream dead for ages, doesn't build, bug #558274. Removal in a
month.
net-wireless/ap-utils

[gentoo-dev] New project: Prolog

[Keri Harris]

In preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67, I am announcing the 
Prolog project [1], which will replace the old prolog herd.


[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Prolog

[gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[tot-to]

I'm a user of a KISS wm, which does not provide Windows™-like menus,
desktop icons, etc. GUI software is called just by typing the binary
name in PATH, just like any other software. For me the desktop-files are
some kind of useless junk.

Recently a lot of software were made harddep on
dev-util/desktop-file-utils, i.e. from now on there are not only junk
text files, but also a junk software required without any reason. I've
added it to /etc/portage/profile/package.provided and everything
compiles and works just fine. It means that in reality there is no real
need in this software.

Please make these dependencies optional.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. echo dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.22
>> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
2. emerge -C dev-util/desktop-file-utils
3. emerge -1 `equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils | awk '{print $1}' |
sed s/^/=/g`

Actual Results:  
No crashes or any kind of problems

Expected Results:  
Build crash due to lack of hard dependency

To be more specific, here is all the software on my system, that
depends on dev-util/desktop-file-utils, but compiles and works just
fine without it: $ equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils
 * These packages depend on dev-util/desktop-file-utils:
app-office/dia-0.97.3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
app-text/evince-2.32.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-cpp/atkmm-2.24.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-cpp/glibmm-2.46.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.4-r3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-cpp/pangomm-2.38.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-libs/atk-2.18.0 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.14 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.9 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-libs/libsigc++-2.6.2 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.16.7 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.18.1
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4-r2
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.11
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.34
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.21-r2
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) sys-block/gparted-0.24.0
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.32.2
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.28-r1
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/pango-1.38.1
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r2
(dev-util/desktop-file-utils)

[gentoo-dev] New project: Shell tools

[Patrice Clement]

In preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67, members of the Shell tools
herd are announcing the Shell tools project [1], which will replace the old
herd.

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Shell_Tools

-- 
Patrice Clement
Gentoo Linux developer
http://www.gentoo.org


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[gentoo-dev] New project: MySQL

[Brian Evans]

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In preparation for the implementation of GLEP 67, I am announcing the
MySQL project [1], which will replace the old mysql herd.

[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:MySQL
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Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[Matthias Maier]

> I'd have to check but I suspect that portage hangs onto build-time
> dependencies by default, probably so that you're not uninstalling them
> and reinstalling them anytime you do anything.  Strictly speaking,
> however, it would be safe to depclean anything that is only a
> build-time dependency (with the understanding that you're going to be
> rebuilding it every time it is needed).

This behavior is controlled by the --with-bdeps= option.

Best,
Matthias

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[Peter Stuge]

Rich Freeman wrote:
> I'm not sure it is really worth trying to control this via a USE flag
> for such a light dependency.

I don't care how light dependencies are - I want to be able to choose
every single one that is optional. That is Gentoo's killer feature,
and I am thoroughly disappointed whenever I come across a dependency
which is not absolutely neccessary but hard in ebuild. It's rare, but
happens. :( I consider it a bug. I still have to file the last one I
found.


//Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[Sergey Popov]

Unfortunately i doubt that we could help with that. I did not look into
every software package from your list, but many of those packages did
not have compile time switch for (not)using desktop-file-utils.

If you are still needed to clean up files, that cause no harm to your
system - i can only suggest you to mask /usr/share/applications via
INSTALL_MASK(to prevent these desktop files from installing at all)

06.01.2016 19:23, tot-to пишет:
> I'm a user of a KISS wm, which does not provide Windows™-like menus,
> desktop icons, etc. GUI software is called just by typing the binary
> name in PATH, just like any other software. For me the desktop-files are
> some kind of useless junk.
> 
> Recently a lot of software were made harddep on
> dev-util/desktop-file-utils, i.e. from now on there are not only junk
> text files, but also a junk software required without any reason. I've
> added it to /etc/portage/profile/package.provided and everything
> compiles and works just fine. It means that in reality there is no real
> need in this software.
> 
> Please make these dependencies optional.
> 
> Reproducible: Always
> 
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1. echo dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.22
>>> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
> 2. emerge -C dev-util/desktop-file-utils
> 3. emerge -1 `equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils | awk '{print $1}' |
> sed s/^/=/g`
> 
> Actual Results:  
> No crashes or any kind of problems
> 
> Expected Results:  
> Build crash due to lack of hard dependency
> 
> To be more specific, here is all the software on my system, that
> depends on dev-util/desktop-file-utils, but compiles and works just
> fine without it: $ equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils
>  * These packages depend on dev-util/desktop-file-utils:
> app-office/dia-0.97.3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> app-text/evince-2.32.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/atkmm-2.24.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/glibmm-2.46.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.4-r3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/pangomm-2.38.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/atk-2.18.0 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.14 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.9 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libsigc++-2.6.2 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.16.7 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.18.1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.11
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.34
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.21-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) sys-block/gparted-0.24.0
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.32.2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.28-r1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/pango-1.38.1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> 


-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead
Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead



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Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Apache "-D PHP5" needs update to "-D PHP"

[Sebastian Pipping]

On 05.01.2016 20:35, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> I just pushed a new revision with this fix. In eselect-php-0.8.2-r1,
> we ship both the new 70_mod_php.conf and the old 70_mod_php5.conf. The
> latter comes with a big warning at the top of it, stating that it is for
> backwards compatibility only.

Cool, sounds like a great idea to me.

I guess we don't need a news item any more then?



Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Apache "-D PHP5" needs update to "-D PHP"

[Sebastian Pipping]

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On 04.01.2016 11:45, Lars Wendler wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
> 
> to be honest I was very upset when I first stumbled upon this
> problem. And yes I only found about it when my apache webserver
> started to deliver php source code instead of the real sites.

Exactly the same with me.


> Doing such a change without getting in contact with me as apache 
> maintainer before the change was done is very... eh... impolite at
> best.

Just for the record, it wasn't me :)

Best



Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[tot-to]

Hi Sergey,

It would be great to make the intallation of desktop-files optional,
but I mostly concerned about the dependency on
dev-util/desktop-file-utils. This dependency was introduced very
recently, i.e. none of those packages had such dependency before and
everythigh was working fine. Moreover, currently they still compile work
fine without this package (added to package.provided). So, I don't
understand why one needs a compile-time switch in order to disable
just a redundant software.

I think such dependency should be either removed, because it's not
really required or at least be optional.

-Original Message-
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:59:47 +0300
From: Sergey Popov 
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request


Unfortunately i doubt that we could help with that. I did not look into
every software package from your list, but many of those packages did
not have compile time switch for (not)using desktop-file-utils.

If you are still needed to clean up files, that cause no harm to your
system - i can only suggest you to mask /usr/share/applications via
INSTALL_MASK(to prevent these desktop files from installing at all)

06.01.2016 19:23, tot-to пишет:
> I'm a user of a KISS wm, which does not provide Windows™-like menus,
> desktop icons, etc. GUI software is called just by typing the binary
> name in PATH, just like any other software. For me the desktop-files are
> some kind of useless junk.
> 
> Recently a lot of software were made harddep on
> dev-util/desktop-file-utils, i.e. from now on there are not only junk
> text files, but also a junk software required without any reason. I've
> added it to /etc/portage/profile/package.provided and everything
> compiles and works just fine. It means that in reality there is no real
> need in this software.
> 
> Please make these dependencies optional.
> 
> Reproducible: Always
> 
> Steps to Reproduce:
> 1. echo dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.22  
>>> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided  
> 2. emerge -C dev-util/desktop-file-utils
> 3. emerge -1 `equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils | awk '{print $1}' |
> sed s/^/=/g`
> 
> Actual Results:  
> No crashes or any kind of problems
> 
> Expected Results:  
> Build crash due to lack of hard dependency
> 
> To be more specific, here is all the software on my system, that
> depends on dev-util/desktop-file-utils, but compiles and works just
> fine without it: $ equery d dev-util/desktop-file-utils
>  * These packages depend on dev-util/desktop-file-utils:
> app-office/dia-0.97.3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> app-text/evince-2.32.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> app-text/gnome-doc-utils-0.20.10-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/atkmm-2.24.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/cairomm-1.12.0-r1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/glibmm-2.46.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/gtkmm-2.24.4-r3 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-cpp/pangomm-2.38.1 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/atk-2.18.0 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libIDL-0.8.14 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.9 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-libs/libsigc++-2.6.2 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-python/pygobject-2.28.6-r55 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-python/pygtk-2.24.0-r4 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> dev-util/gtk-update-icon-cache-3.16.7 (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
> gnome-base/gsettings-desktop-schemas-3.18.1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-base/librsvg-2.40.11
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.34
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.21-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) sys-block/gparted-0.24.0
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gdk-pixbuf-2.32.2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.28-r1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-libs/pango-1.38.1
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils) x11-themes/gtk-engines-2.20.2-r2
> (dev-util/desktop-file-utils)
>   


-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Desktop-effects project lead
Gentoo Quality Assurance project lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Apache "-D PHP5" needs update to "-D PHP"

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 01/06/2016 02:36 PM, Sebastian Pipping wrote:
> On 05.01.2016 20:35, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>> I just pushed a new revision with this fix. In eselect-php-0.8.2-r1,
>> we ship both the new 70_mod_php.conf and the old 70_mod_php5.conf. The
>> latter comes with a big warning at the top of it, stating that it is for
>> backwards compatibility only.
> 
> Cool, sounds like a great idea to me.
> 
> I guess we don't need a news item any more then?
> 

Upgraders still have a problem, but a much less severe one. After
upgrading eselect-php, further attempts to `eselect php set apache2`
will appear to have no effect, because the old 70_mod_php5.conf is
loading the old symlink to libphp5.so. There are a few options:

1. Leave things as is, and tell people what to do (read the elog) if
   they hit this situation.

2. Proceed with a news item that basically says "read the elog."

3. I could try to hack some magic into eselect-php to detect whether or
   not you have -DPHP5 set. Something simple, like grepping /etc/conf.d
   /apache2 for "PHP5". In that case we could omit a notice.
   This one simultaneously makes the most sense and feels like the
   biggest hack.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrites: app-admin/rigo, app-misc/magneto-loader, kde-misc/magneto-kde, x11-misc/magneto-gtk, x11-misc/magneto-gtk3, sys-apps/rigo-daemon, sys-apps/magneto-core, net-fs/tahoe-lafs,

[»Q«]

On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 21:12:34 +
Amadeusz Żołnowski  wrote:

> Pacho Ramos  writes:
> > # Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
> > # Unmaintained, upstream dead, doesn't work, bug #548920. Removal
> > in a # month.
> > app-admin/checkrestart  
> 
> I am taking the package.

Thanks!  You might want to have a look at needrestart, which (I think)
has replaced checkrestart upstream.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: app-admin/rigo, app-misc/magneto-loader, kde-misc/magneto-kde, x11-misc/magneto-gtk, x11-misc/magneto-gtk3, sys-apps/rigo-daemon, sys-apps/magneto-core, net-fs/tahoe-lafs,

[Amadeusz Żołnowski]

Hi,

Pacho Ramos  writes:
> # Pacho Ramos  (06 Jan 2016)
> # Unmaintained, upstream dead, doesn't work, bug #548920. Removal in a
> # month.
> app-admin/checkrestart

I am taking the package.
-- Amadeusz Żołnowski


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Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=desktop-file request

[Rich Freeman]

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:47 PM, tot-to  wrote:
>
> It would be great to make the intallation of desktop-files optional,
> but I mostly concerned about the dependency on
> dev-util/desktop-file-utils...
>
> I think such dependency should be either removed, because it's not
> really required or at least be optional.

Most of the packages you referenced inherit the gnome2 eclass, which
inherits the xdg eclass, which adds a DEPEND on desktop-file-utils.

Technically that should mean that it is fine to uninstall
desktop-file-utils after building most of these packages, because it
is only needed at build time.  However, I imagine that if an xdg
eclass function is called which uses these utilities the package build
will fail if you just stick it in package.provided.

If this were purely about installing the desktop files themselves I'd
say to just use the install mask.  I think you could debate whether it
is OK to pull in desktop-file-utils.  That package is just 4 binaries
and their manpages/docs, and of course the runtime dependency of glib.

I'm not sure it is really worth trying to control this via a USE flag
for such a light dependency.  However, strictly speaking this is an
optional build-time dependency, so it probably could be controlled by
flag.  I'm not so keen on making the build-time behavior automagic
based on whether the package happens to be installed and then spamming
elog on every package that uses the xdg eclass to let you know that
you could manually install that package to get your desktop files
back.

I'd have to check but I suspect that portage hangs onto build-time
dependencies by default, probably so that you're not uninstalling them
and reinstalling them anytime you do anything.  Strictly speaking,
however, it would be safe to depclean anything that is only a
build-time dependency (with the understanding that you're going to be
rebuilding it every time it is needed).

--
Rich