Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Hey Alexey, Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru writes: My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this kind of Gentoo. Sorry for being slow. I made it finally. Would you like to test it on your favorite Galaxy S2? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Android/tarball Also, feel free to append it to the device list https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Android/devices Cheers, Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Hey Chris, Chris Reffett creff...@gentoo.org writes: Indeed I have. If you want to start such a project, I would certainly be interested in joining. Plasma Active is basically untested because I don't have a mobile device with Gentoo and installing it on a normal computer leads to display sizing issues, but I welcome any suggestions or bug reports you have for that. Great idea. As qt4 already supports wayland, we'll head to Plasma Active as soon as we have a wayland. Unfortunately at present, we have no code for graphics at all. It might take long. What I would really like to see come out of this is some pre-made Gentoo stage4s for different kinds of devices, which I think would be a big draw for users. Yeah, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Android/tarball serves the purpose. Cheers, Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
It sounds very interesting! I would like to try that for testing in future. On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:21 PM, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org writes: Does gpe-base/* and gpe-utils/* relate to this at all? Somehow. Just as Plasma Activity, it could be used as a GUI but not necessarily. Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org writes: while I won't have the time to contribute much, I would like to tell you that this is definitely a very cool and worthwhile project! I think you should make a project page and sign yourself up as team lead immediately... :) Thank you, Andreas. I've started a subproject here, http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/android/index.xml Chris Reffett from KDE team has done already a lot of work on packaging Plasma Active, see http://plasma-active.org/ - it's in the KDE overlay but mostly untested so far. You might be interested! Talked to him on IRC. Thanks for the info. Benda pgpj9mqlWvjFP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru writes: My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this kind of Gentoo. Will be important the version of Android installed? No, it would be agnostic to Android versions. CPU of Galaxy S2 belongs to armv7a hardfloat, which is our main release target. Just a minute, I'll release a stage3 tarball. Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org writes: You know what I've done with this kind of thing already. I am at your disposal. If you want to publicly embarass canonical by releasing something awesome (either first or better) I can find the time to help. You know where to find me ;-) That's great, Rick! Come and add yourself here, http://www.g.o/proj/en/gentoo-alt/android/index.xml The page calls for extra love to be expanded. See you in the usual place! Benda pgpL0o5WyovfB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org writes: There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if there's enough public to do your own build. I am very interested in such an image. Would you please dig out a link for me? I searched the web in vain. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. There are a lot of _hard_ problems here (display, audio, input, codecs), not to even begin on proper policy integration (your phone is hooked up, voice call starts, what do you do). Yes, you're right. That's not to discourage your effort at all - I think it's great that you're kicking this off and that there is so much enthusiasm for this. I look forward to seeing the solutions that emerge to solve all of these, and am happy to offer to test on a device or two. I'd make it incremental, by releasing only a full Gentoo environment (Gentoo RAP) as the first step. Then base on that, gather forces to attack the hard(-ware) problems you mentioned. Cheers, Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 17 August 2013 16:28, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org writes: There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if there's enough public to do your own build. I am very interested in such an image. Would you please dig out a link for me? I searched the web in vain. None of these worked for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install I believe there were efforts to port to arbitrary non-Nexus devices as well. Cheers, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) (arunsr | GNOME)
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
2013/8/17 heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org: Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru writes: My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this kind of Gentoo. Will be important the version of Android installed? No, it would be agnostic to Android versions. CPU of Galaxy S2 belongs to armv7a hardfloat, which is our main release target. Perfect. Just a minute, I'll release a stage3 tarball. OK! =) -- Regards, Alex
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Dear Arun, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org writes: None of these worked for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install I believe there were efforts to port to arbitrary non-Nexus devices as well. Ah, get to understand what you have meant. I was not talking about replacing mobile devices with a GNU/Linux, not even dual booting. It was running GNU in parallel to Android, sharing the same Linux kernel and hardware, cooperating with each other. Cheers, Benda
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 13 August 2013 10:51, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if there's enough public to do your own build. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. There are a lot of _hard_ problems here (display, audio, input, codecs), not to even begin on proper policy integration (your phone is hooked up, voice call starts, what do you do). That's not to discourage your effort at all - I think it's great that you're kicking this off and that there is so much enthusiasm for this. I look forward to seeing the solutions that emerge to solve all of these, and am happy to offer to test on a device or two. Cheers, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) (arunsr | GNOME)
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
2013/8/14 heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org: Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us writes: I'm not a developer but this project's existence would motivate me to get a compatible smartphone and test this new Gentoo version on it, assuming it's also capable of standard phone calls and texts, etc. This assumption certainly holds firm. It is firstly a phone and then a computer. My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this kind of Gentoo. Will be important the version of Android installed? -- Regards, Alex
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/13/2013 01:21 AM, heroxbd wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. You know what I've done with this kind of thing already. I am at your disposal. If you want to publicly embarass canonical by releasing something awesome (either first or better) I can find the time to help. You know where to find me ;-) - -Zero Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSDbFuAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKiJMQAKlQtLQUBsWeCqI4YgYOsmX0 x9laSSQARdmfLC7Gt57ab4GBveZmwPAVjKi3KkIHZ3rUDrC2UehMYM/x8OMygLbJ tc8yec60KzG0AZ2GKcdvb7pZu1fM+gzw6qpFItqZ89YL/KN5ECdyNeTQz14QGuLY SzckuuDI8KO3WlFw8sQHic3gTd+r2+WSMNTvj1ln9M91sYjKy40Um6c6z/rpjJsm osHfKYKpiuGNEwAa/ptRwcxPmLWWyp0m38zl43vrBli+esHQYbS+zK1tX/xh4dxY Sj7CZc5DgUTfEmRL50U+gGx9wcQ5oMrVT7r4WK8I1O42tnoTQuRSqbNhYbrCHUCr ionaFAE4oKjJEOnjBwC9zA7p2OBJmtO9aXkQ5Wr51TtWN8xMC3wYCPCJgsy1Vo0H fjECKuoB1zNrhlYeDFAD13f5+2nYsxK3Y0qp1w4/KHsaZkqgg4acsF3hjGE8cMFR 3Z+72bebAi0QbgmFp1pY3BurptypvNuHpU+ErYEO8uI5+TwUrc4d6k6kvm353D/3 u6Xk5h74Xex/H4N33pytnYBxV6sNoMQiE3I3GCwe0y7LeZuWbe1Yz1PBjZULwW0u Uw8WAkPxPMHGDhB/78BLoO6Oc2JTjFA6ps5MKz/AaBjgv7u/HQ+tlPt9lHGhRCYm bmEznQB+UdpH9mI6DKTk =ZPJo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us writes: I'm not a developer but this project's existence would motivate me to get a compatible smartphone and test this new Gentoo version on it, assuming it's also capable of standard phone calls and texts, etc. This assumption certainly holds firm. It is firstly a phone and then a computer.
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org writes: Sounds good. Note that it doesn't need to be set up as against Canonical. Just do the best thing for the users. Thanks. I'd take your advice. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Everybody can create a sub-project, and I'm happy to see this kind of project appearing in Gentoo. I'd recommend focusing on creating a good, compelling experience, not just pushing out something before Canonical. :) Yes, I agree. pgpVnDXtIHVc5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 08/13/2013 12:21 AM, heroxbd wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 I'm not a developer but this project's existence would motivate me to get a compatible smartphone and test this new Gentoo version on it, assuming it's also capable of standard phone calls and texts, etc.
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 13 August 2013 13:21, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear Fellows, I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. I would be interested in such a project. -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin Gentoo developer
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 8/12/13 10:21 PM, heroxbd wrote: As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. Sounds good. Note that it doesn't need to be set up as against Canonical. Just do the best thing for the users. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Everybody can create a sub-project, and I'm happy to see this kind of project appearing in Gentoo. I'd recommend focusing on creating a good, compelling experience, not just pushing out something before Canonical. :) Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
On 13/08/13 08:21, heroxbd wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 Does gpe-base/* and gpe-utils/* relate to this at all?
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Benda, while I won't have the time to contribute much, I would like to tell you that this is definitely a very cool and worthwhile project! I think you should make a project page and sign yourself up as team lead immediately... :) Chris Reffett from KDE team has done already a lot of work on packaging Plasma Active, see http://plasma-active.org/ - it's in the KDE overlay but mostly untested so far. You might be interested! Best, Andreas Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29 -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer kde, sci, arm, tex, printing signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Indeed I have. If you want to start such a project, I would certainly be interested in joining. Plasma Active is basically untested because I don't have a mobile device with Gentoo and installing it on a normal computer leads to display sizing issues, but I welcome any suggestions or bug reports you have for that. What I would really like to see come out of this is some pre-made Gentoo stage4s for different kinds of devices, which I think would be a big draw for users. Chris Reffett On 8/13/2013 1:09 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Benda, while I won't have the time to contribute much, I would like to tell you that this is definitely a very cool and worthwhile project! I think you should make a project page and sign yourself up as team lead immediately... :) Chris Reffett from KDE team has done already a lot of work on packaging Plasma Active, see http://plasma-active.org/ - it's in the KDE overlay but mostly untested so far. You might be interested! Best, Andreas Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
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Hi Benda, Great idea! I would definitely be interested in joining. Regards, Pavel On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:21 PM, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
[gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge
Dear Fellows, Canonical is raising money by pushing their concept of Ubuntu for Android[1][2]. The idea is to put GNU environment (esp. Ubuntu userland) in parallel to Android to drive the external HDMI output with X11 protocal, so that desktop applications can run on the smartphone. The idea is cool, but not new. The idea is general to all android devices, while Canonical is binding the concept with its own new device. The project is developed underground by Canonical, so far nothing, not to say repository, is available except advertisements and the call for people to donate. As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project, Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4]. I feel sorry to the behavior of Canonical. We, people from the Gentoo community, can show the general public what is the cooperative way to develop desktop/smartphone hybrid to benefit all. I would like to kick out a sub-project of Gentoo targeting smartphone and tablets. It would be nice to find out a solution based on Gentoo for desktop/smartphone hybrid *before* Canonical's release. Comments welcome. Cheers, Benda 1. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/ubuntu-for-android 2. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge 3. http://www.awa.tohoku.ac.jp/~benda/projects/android.html 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29
