Re: [gentoo-user] Installing 2005.0 with LVM2

2005-04-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
Mrugesh Karnik wrote:

 Kiawud wrote:

 On 4/16/05, Mrugesh Karnik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello folks,

 I'm trying to install Gentoo with LVM2. I had to stop the installation
 at one point and reboot the pc. Later, I booted with LiveCD again and
 now I'm wondering how I am to get my volumes back...

 I did the following (I definitely think that I'm doing something wrong
 here! I admit that I don't have enough knowledge about lvm yet and that
 I haven't read the complete LVM HOWTO yet.)

 modprobe dm_mod
 pvscan  Found the volume vg
 pvchange -a y  Successfully enabled vg
 lvscan  It found all the volumes, ie, usr, home, opt, var and tmp
 lvchange - a y  I enabled all the volumes properly.

 Now, when I do lvscan again, it tells me that all the volumes are
 ACTIVE
 and shows the path as /dev/vg/* and shows them as inherit.

 After all that, there is no /dev/vg

 Help?

 Thank you!

 Yours Faithfully,
 Mrugesh Karnik
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 No problem ... I just did the same thing (installed 2005.0 w/ lvm2)
 ... Here's how I got it to work:

 1) vgchange -a n  (deactive all the volumes)
 2) vgexport -a vg  (export all the volumes)
 3) vgimport -a vg  (import all the volumes into the existing system)
 4) vgchange -a y   (reactive all the volumes)

 This should do it for you...

 -Hani

 Ah!

 Somehow I forgot to see --help on the export command... hehehe. I'll
 give it a try. Thank  you. :)

 Regards,
 Mrugesh Karnik

Hi,
A week ago also tried to install using LVM2, but couldn't resolve a Bug
(lvm2 linked to libgmp), see gentoo-lvm2-docs, so went for a normal install.
Made the devices with 'vgmknodes' command, then they exist in /dev/vg/...
HTH
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[gentoo-user] dma is off

2005-04-17 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello all,
My 2 IDE DISKS want support DMA with gentoo.
(dma was supported with debian)
Here my .config with the  kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r6:
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y

when running hdparm /devhda , the dma is off.
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
idem for hdb
thank you for any idea.
Al Bayrouni.
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[gentoo-user] USB devices (/dev/usb empty)

2005-04-17 Thread Pawe Sulkowski
Hello,
I've the following problem with my USB on Gentoo box.
A list of loaded kernel modules (usbcore is loaded):
--
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
vfat9356   2  (autoclean)
fat31640   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
agpgart36696   6  (autoclean)
usbcore57804   1
i810_audio 24028   1
ac97_codec 11604   0  [i810_audio]
soundcore   3588   2  [i810_audio]
b4414508   1 
--

Unfortunately when I want to connect my camera or mouse through USB 
nothing happens. Problem is that /dev/usb directory is empty. Moreover 
when I plug device into USB port there are no information about this 
event in /var/log/messages. What's the problem? Maybe some kernel 
modules are missing.. ?

Regards,
Pawel Sulkowski
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Re: [gentoo-user] dma is off

2005-04-17 Thread Christoph Gysin
Al Bayrouni wrote:

 Here is the output of lspci:
 -
 :00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 645xx
 (rev 51)

Ok, you have a SiS 645...

 and the part of dmesg output:
 ---
 Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2

...but are using the generic IDE driver.

Enable CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 in your kernel config to support your
hardware.

Device Drivers  ---
   ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support  ---
  [*] SiS5513 chipset support

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Re: [gentoo-user] dma is off

2005-04-17 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Al Bayrouni wrote:
 # CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
 CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y

This doesn't look right.  Did you configure the kernel by hand?  
Or by using genkernel?  If so, try it with 'make menuconfig' to 
get a consistent config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dma is off

2005-04-17 Thread Al Bayrouni
Benno Schulenberg wrote:
Al Bayrouni wrote:
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=y

This doesn't look right.  Did you configure the kernel by hand?  
Or by using genkernel?  If so, try it with 'make menuconfig' to 
get a consistent config.

Benno
Thank you very much.
I configured the kernel like this:
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513=y is now enabled
CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK=n is now disabled
I am now recompiling my kernel.
I shall send the result after rebooting my system on the new kernl .
Thanks :)
Al Bayrouni
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[gentoo-user] 100% disk full again

2005-04-17 Thread Eric S. Johansson
this is all portage's fault.. ;-)
my 300+ package upgrade is almost done. but OO died because of no disk 
space on the laptop (yes, I will go with a binary for this one after I 
clean up the mess)

what is the best way to keep the portage files down to a reasonable set? 
 I clean but that never seems to remove anything from the portage env.

This seems like a common problem (esp for laptops) so what is a good 
solution?

single dsktops; laptops
o per machine portage cleaner
small (3-4) networks
o http-replicator cache
o rsync cache
o per machine portage cleaner
larger networks
o http-replicator cache
o rsync cache
o shared /usr/portage;/var/cache/edb/???
o cach machine portage cleaner
right? wrong?  what does a portage cleaner look like?
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Re: [gentoo-user] 100% disk full again

2005-04-17 Thread Francisco Ares
I use a shared NFS /usr/portage/ among 4 computers (a server, 2 desktops
and a test machine) and it works fine, just the server needs to sync in
the middle of the night, and as I have mostly Pentium3 (server + 2
workstations), the server and my own workstation are setup to build
binary packages - the server builds first, but as it doesn't use X,
there are some packages that my ws builds (after merging the already
built packages) and then the second and slower ws merges only binary
packages.  All of them, including the test machine, uses distcc, so
everything is faster.

I guess that sharing /var/cache/edb is not a good idea, as far as I know
portage.

I am thinking on sharing /var/portage thow

And that's a good point: /var/portage gets pretty full of hundreds of
megs once in a while, and so does /usr/portage/distfiles and (in my
case) /usr/portage/packages - so how could portage clean up by default
the binary packages and the source code tarballs (and also any eventual
mess left in /var/portage)?  Some more command line options?  Some more
environment varialbles?  Some more words in $FEATURES (I like this one)?

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Eric S. Johansson wrote:

 this is all portage's fault.. ;-)

 my 300+ package upgrade is almost done. but OO died because of no disk
 space on the laptop (yes, I will go with a binary for this one after I
 clean up the mess)

 what is the best way to keep the portage files down to a reasonable
 set?  I clean but that never seems to remove anything from the portage
 env.

 This seems like a common problem (esp for laptops) so what is a good
 solution?

 single dsktops; laptops
 o per machine portage cleaner

 small (3-4) networks
 o http-replicator cache
 o rsync cache
 o per machine portage cleaner

 larger networks
 o http-replicator cache
 o rsync cache
 o shared /usr/portage;/var/cache/edb/???
 o cach machine portage cleaner

 right? wrong?  what does a portage cleaner look like?

 --- eric

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[gentoo-user] Problems upgrading to the kernel 2.6 - module CRC32

2005-04-17 Thread Luca Penasa
Hi everybody... im trying to upgrading my gentoo with the 2.6 kernel. 
I've done everything (compilind and installing modules)... but now i 
cant load the crc32 module (after the modprobe crc32 the system write 
out that cant find that module--- module crc32 not found... or something 
like that). into the menuconfig i've tried to configure the crc32's 
compile like a module, but here i've seen that (maybe) some other kernel 
feature yet selected block the crc32 Functions item. this is what i 
see into the menuconfig:

--- CRC32 Funtions and i cant do this;
M CRC32 Functions
does anybody know why?
i need that module to use my usb modem ( the cxacru's connection script 
give the command  modprobe crc32, but the system cant find the module)

thanks a lot...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems upgrading to the kernel 2.6 - module CRC32

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Fish
Luca Penasa wrote:

 Hi everybody... im trying to upgrading my gentoo with the 2.6 kernel.
 I've done everything (compilind and installing modules)... but now i
 cant load the crc32 module (after the modprobe crc32 the system write
 out that cant find that module--- module crc32 not found... or
 something like that). into the menuconfig i've tried to configure the
 crc32's compile like a module, but here i've seen that (maybe) some
 other kernel feature yet selected block the crc32 Functions item.
 this is what i see into the menuconfig:


Most likely the CRC32 function was required by an in-kernel driver, so
it is being built into the kernel, not as a module.  Check the .config
file directly for:

CONFIG_CRC32=y

If this is set, then you have everything you need.

To squash the cxacru error, create a file /etc/moduels.d/cxacru, with
a single line:

alias crc32 off

Then run modules-update and you should be all set.

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] Local phenomena or is reiserfs quite slow

2005-04-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Recently switched from using ext3 (under fedora)  to reiserfs (under
gentoo).

I'm noticing what seems to be really long processing times for certain
file manipulation chores.

Examples might be `du -sh' against several hundred MB or `rm -rf' in
same manner.  I didn't think to time the du part below but you can see
what seems like a lengthy processing time for rm -rf.

This is on an older P4 2ghz machine.

I didn't see any abnormally heavy operations underway during this
example so probably about normal number of processes and cpu being
used by other processes.

  root #  du -sh .snapshots
  381M.snapshots

  root # time rm -rf .snapshots

  real1m42.234s
  user0m0.180s
  sys 0m9.696s

Almost 2 minutes to rm -rf a few hundred MB.  I don't have an ext3 fs
to test against anymore but wondering if this is abnormally slow for
reiserfs.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems upgrading to the kernel 2.6 - module CRC32

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Fish
Richard Fish wrote:

To squash the cxacru error, create a file /etc/moduels.d/cxacru, with
  


sed -e s/moduels/modules/g


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[gentoo-user] Automatically replace -mtune= with -mcpu= if not supported by gcc?!

2005-04-17 Thread Philipp Hasse
Hi,

I recently noticed that portage executes the file bashrc located in
/etc/portage before every ebuild.
This way it can be used to set the -mcpu and -mtune flags correctly.
If you add the following to this file everything goes automatically:

--- SNIP ---
# Automatically replace -mtune= with -mcpu if not supported by gcc
# and vice versa.
echo  | gcc -mtune=i386 -E -  /dev/null 2 /dev/null
if [ $? == 0 ]; then
export CFLAGS=`echo $CFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mcpu=/-mtune=/'`
export CXXFLAGS=`echo $CXXFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mcpu=/-mtune=/'`
else
export CFLAGS=`echo $CFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mtune=/-mcpu=/'`
export CXXFLAGS=`echo $CXXFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mtune=/-mcpu=/'`
fi
--- SNIP ---

Maybe someone can give me a feedback if this is good idea or if I missed
something for some exotic situation this will fail.

Why doesn't portage do this automatically by itself? If it encounters an
-mtune= option in make.conf and gcc doesn't support it it replaces it
with -mcpu=?!

Regards
Philipp Hasse

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[gentoo-user] Upgrading to 2005.0

2005-04-17 Thread Reno Romanin
I recently updated my profile to 2005.0 by the simple rm /etc/make.profile
ln -sf blah blah...

Well, it didn't seem to go as smooth this time, now every time I try to
emerge something, including '-u world' I get errors, specifically on gcc I
get this

*** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
 target-libffi target-boehm-gc target-zlib target-libjava zlib fastjar
target-libobjc
(Any other directories should still work fine.)
Created Makefile in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
using mt-frag
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
conftest.c:1: fatal error: error closing -: Broken pipe
compilation terminated.
The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
*** The command 'gcc -o conftest -pipe -O2   conftest.c' failed.
*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1 failed.
!!! Function gcc_do_configure, Line 1048, Exitcode 1
!!! failed to run configure
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.



I'm sure, as usual, I was a bit too hasty and should have RTFM, but now I'm
at a loss, and can' seem to find any fix on the forums.

TIA 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to 2005.0

2005-04-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Reno Romanin wrote:
 I recently updated my profile to 2005.0 by the simple rm /etc/make.profile
 ln -sf blah blah...
 
 Well, it didn't seem to go as smooth this time, now every time I try to
 emerge something, including '-u world' I get errors, specifically on gcc I
 get this
 
 *** This configuration is not supported in the following subdirectories:
  target-libffi target-boehm-gc target-zlib target-libjava zlib fastjar
 target-libobjc
 (Any other directories should still work fine.)
 Created Makefile in /var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1/work/build
 using mt-frag
 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
 conftest.c:1: fatal error: error closing -: Broken pipe
 compilation terminated.
 The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
 *** The command 'gcc -o conftest -pipe -O2   conftest.c' failed.
 *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
 
 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.5.20050130-r1 failed.
 !!! Function gcc_do_configure, Line 1048, Exitcode 1
 !!! failed to run configure
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
 message.
 
 
 
 I'm sure, as usual, I was a bit too hasty and should have RTFM, but now I'm
 at a loss, and can' seem to find any fix on the forums.
 
 TIA 
 
 --reno
 

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#binutils-config 1
solves the problem ?

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[gentoo-user] rc-update net.wlan0?

2005-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   I'm attempting to get wireless up and running. First time on
Gentoo. I have used ndiswrapper on FC2 which this machine used to run
so I have ESSIDs, mac addresses and keys that are known good.

   I've emerge the wireless-tools stuff and have an edited
/etc/conf.d/wireless file with my values in it. ndiswrapper is
modprobed and ready to go. Now I want to start net.wlan0 but I don't
have a file in /etc/init.d and nothing shows up in rc-update.

   What am I missing here? Am I supposed to make some edits to
/etc/conf.d/net? That might make sense but I'm not sure what to do. If
so where do I get /etc/init.d/net.wlan0? Copy net.eth0 and rename?

   My goal here is to be able to say:

/etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
/etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start

and be able to switch between interfaces.

   Thanks in advance. I've been searching around for info but just
haven't found the right thing.

Cheers,
Mark

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[gentoo-user] emerged glibc does not work

2005-04-17 Thread Erik
Hello,
now I tried again to emerge the new version of glibc, but it failed
again. After the emerge (and even after rebooting), some important
programs, such as login and python no longer work. They cause
segmentation fault. To boot the system I had to add init=/bin/bash to
the GRUB command line. To recover I had to boot from a livecd and copy
the working glibc files from a livecd image into /lib.

I tried again to emerge glibc. This time I first removed make.conf to
make sure that none of the settings there could cause the error. But I
had to recover again. Has anyone else this problem? Does anyone have a
clue why it happens? It is the same thing that has happened every time I
tried to emerge a version of glibc. So it seems like I have to update
glibc only when a new livecd image comes out, by mounting it and copying
over the glibc files from it to to /lib. Or are there binary packages
released which I can use instead?

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[gentoo-user] Re: rc-update net.wlan0?

2005-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Did all that sensible stuff I suggested below. It worked. This
response is from my wireless NIC.

   Thanks to the Gentoo developers for making such a logically
consistent system!

Cheers,
Mark

On 4/17/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
I'm attempting to get wireless up and running. First time on
 Gentoo. I have used ndiswrapper on FC2 which this machine used to run
 so I have ESSIDs, mac addresses and keys that are known good.
 
I've emerge the wireless-tools stuff and have an edited
 /etc/conf.d/wireless file with my values in it. ndiswrapper is
 modprobed and ready to go. Now I want to start net.wlan0 but I don't
 have a file in /etc/init.d and nothing shows up in rc-update.
 
What am I missing here? Am I supposed to make some edits to
 /etc/conf.d/net? That might make sense but I'm not sure what to do. If
 so where do I get /etc/init.d/net.wlan0? Copy net.eth0 and rename?
 
My goal here is to be able to say:
 
 /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
 /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start
 
 and be able to switch between interfaces.
 
Thanks in advance. I've been searching around for info but just
 haven't found the right thing.
 
 Cheers,
 Mark


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[gentoo-user] Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird/Nvu/etc

2005-04-17 Thread Devon Miller
All of these are built on the same set of libraries and each one downloads and builds its own copy.

Is anyone investigating making the common code into a mozilla-core package?

I'd really like a way to cut down the time spent building these apps.

dcm



[gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Jarry
Hi,
I'm installing Gentoo 2005.0 using universal installation CD
on a small, general purpose server (apache+mysql+php, mail,
some net-games, teamspeak, ftp, shells, 20-30 users, etc.).
Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
(partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).
But even after reading of 2005.0-handbook, I have no idea
which fs could be best for me. I tried to find some comparisons,
but results are ambiguous. Could you give me some recommendation?
I'd like to hear opinions especially from those who have
personal experience with various fs...
Thanks,
Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread fire-eyes
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 18:17 +0200, Jarry wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm installing Gentoo 2005.0 using universal installation CD
 on a small, general purpose server (apache+mysql+php, mail,
 some net-games, teamspeak, ftp, shells, 20-30 users, etc.).
 
 Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
 journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
 (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).
 
 But even after reading of 2005.0-handbook, I have no idea
 which fs could be best for me. I tried to find some comparisons,
 but results are ambiguous. Could you give me some recommendation?
 I'd like to hear opinions especially from those who have
 personal experience with various fs...
 
 Thanks,
 Jarry

I have experience with all of them, and after 7 years my personal pick
is reiserfs 3.6. I've persnonally had problems with almost any other
filesystem. My experience covers home and work.

I'd like to point out that XFS was designed with datacenter use in mind,
and that right there assumes you have a very good battery backup. That
is to say you aren't going to lose power. XFS caches very agressively in
RAM, meaning if you lose power, you lose that data. So stay away from
XFS unless you have great power backup.

Now you'll probably have somebody say the exact opposite of me, such is
the topic of filesystems. Just my advice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Luigi Pinna
Alle 18:17, domenica 17 aprile 2005, Jarry ha scritto:
 Hi,

 I'm installing Gentoo 2005.0 using universal installation CD
 on a small, general purpose server (apache+mysql+php, mail,
 some net-games, teamspeak, ftp, shells, 20-30 users, etc.).

 Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
 journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
 (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).

 But even after reading of 2005.0-handbook, I have no idea
 which fs could be best for me. I tried to find some comparisons,
 but results are ambiguous. Could you give me some recommendation?
 I'd like to hear opinions especially from those who have
 personal experience with various fs...

 Thanks,
 Jarry


If you have big partitions, I can suggest you xfs that can use big files 
and big partitions without problems (and it's very fast!)
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Mrugesh Karnik
Jarry wrote:
Hi,
I'm installing Gentoo 2005.0 using universal installation CD
on a small, general purpose server (apache+mysql+php, mail,
some net-games, teamspeak, ftp, shells, 20-30 users, etc.).
Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
(partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).
But even after reading of 2005.0-handbook, I have no idea
which fs could be best for me. I tried to find some comparisons,
but results are ambiguous. Could you give me some recommendation?
I'd like to hear opinions especially from those who have
personal experience with various fs...
Thanks,
Jarry
Hi,
I don't claim to be an expert when it comes to file systems, but I can 
give my recommendations. Surely though, you'll get better ones from more 
qualified people out there :)

Anyways, I've had experiences with ext3, ReiserFS and XFS. I prefer XFS 
for volumes where I have all the ISOs and stuff.. basically large files. 
 Ext3 on basically everyother volume except /boot. I used to have 
ReiserFS, but somehow the performance usually started going down after a 
few weeks... dunno why. Having said that, we have power failures fairly 
regularly and Ext3 has been rocksolid after a power failure... always.

Anyways, I can see fire-eyes recommending ReiserFS there... Well, like 
he/she said, its a matter of personal opinion.

HTH,
Mrugesh Karnik
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Richard Fish wrote:

 I also recommend reiserfs.

 I'm a laptop user, and just converted my filesystems from xfs to
 reiserfs for performance reasons.  With xfs, backing up my root
 filesystem (325000-35 files) would take a bit over 10 minutes
 usually.  With reiserfs, that time is down to 6-7 minutes.  It just
 can't be beat (IMO) for handling lots and lots of small files.

In terms of reliability (I manage servers for a living ;-), I have never
had any problems with ext2/ext3 - it is rock solid even after crashes.

I too tried out Reiserfs on my laptop and after one crash it blew away a
file I was editing at the time (it turned into binary mush). However, I
have used ReiserFS on an older, slower (Pentium III) server at home
without any problems so far.

As far as XFS goes (I have it on an old SGI server), it has great
performance (this is on a web server serving many many sites) but since
the server is in a data center with backup UPS and generators it is a good
choice for that situation.

Overall, I would say it depends on the machine, its location and what uses
the machine will be put to.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, April 17, 2005 6:21 pm, Ciaran McCreesh said:

 If you care about your data, use ext3.

If you care about your data, use tar.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 17 April 2005 12:21 pm, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Richard Fish wrote:
  I also recommend reiserfs.
 
  I'm a laptop user, and just converted my filesystems from xfs to
  reiserfs for performance reasons.  With xfs, backing up my root
  filesystem (325000-35 files) would take a bit over 10 minutes
  usually.  With reiserfs, that time is down to 6-7 minutes.  It just
  can't be beat (IMO) for handling lots and lots of small files.

 In terms of reliability (I manage servers for a living ;-), I have never
 had any problems with ext2/ext3 - it is rock solid even after crashes.


I'll backup what you just said about ext2/ext3. I use it extensively on 
servers. It's easy to setup and very robust. For those of you waiving the 
slow poke flag, you should have a look at something other than a default 
ext3 installation. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] 100% disk full again

2005-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

 followed by an 'rm -rf /var/tmp/portage'

 I do get one error I'm not sure how to clean.

 getfetchlist(): aux_get() error reading app-text/aspell-0.50.3; aborting.
 Failed to get file list for app-text/aspell-0.50.3
 !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'net-misc/dhcpcd-1.3.22_p4-r4' not
 specified: !!!None


try to remove the file manually, if this fails too, have a look into dmesg, I 
fear, you have to run fsck from a boot/live-cd
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Re: [gentoo-user] Local phenomena or is reiserfs quite slow

2005-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,
On Sunday 17 April 2005 15:52, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Recently switched from using ext3 (under fedora)  to reiserfs (under
 gentoo).

 I'm noticing what seems to be really long processing times for certain
 file manipulation chores.


is udma activated for your harddisk?
what does hdparm /dev/hdX says?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Hi,

On Sunday 17 April 2005 18:17, Jarry wrote:


 Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
 journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
 (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).

for /boot (shouldn't be too big. 20mb is way enough for /boot) ext2 is good. 
Everything else is pure overkill and a waste of space.

For the rest reiserfs or ext3 should fit your needs. I am longtime reiserfs 
user, so my view might be biased, but I prefer reiserfs.

XFS has a habit of replacing 'damaged' files with zeros, after a crash. This 
is a 'security' feature, so one users data will not accidentally end in the 
data of another user, but it can damage your system very badly.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sunday 17 April 2005 18:17, Jarry wrote:
 
 
 
Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some
journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
(partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).
 
 
 for /boot (shouldn't be too big. 20mb is way enough for /boot) ext2 is good. 
 Everything else is pure overkill and a waste of space.

agree, use ext2 but with 20Mb you have space only for three 2.6 kernels,
maybe 50 Mb is better

 
 For the rest reiserfs or ext3 should fit your needs. I am longtime reiserfs 
 user, so my view might be biased, but I prefer reiserfs.

agree again, totally, why to use 400 Mb for /usr/portage when you can
have it in 120 Mb ?
Reiser 4 is a hole for the moment but reiser 3 has demonstrated to be
robust for non extreme usage.

 
 XFS has a habit of replacing 'damaged' files with zeros, after a crash. This 
 is a 'security' feature, so one users data will not accidentally end in the 
 data of another user, but it can damage your system very badly.



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Comatose Jones
On 4/17/05, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:17:33 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:| Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some| journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1
| (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap).If you care about your data, use ext3.
Ditto. I've had several very inconvenient data losses on servers with ReiserFS volumes. 
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[gentoo-user] Once again - a big thanks to the developers...

2005-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   In the last day I've managed to do a very nice conversion to Gentoo
of an existing home machine that was running FC2. The conversion was
almost totally painless and most important worked very well. This
conversion was done using the 2005.0 Universal CD and the instruction
book on it. I did not use the web at all during the first part of the
build. It was really great to sit on a machine with no network
connection and have everything I needed to do a really efficient
install.

   So, a BIG THANKS to all the developers and those who participate on
this list and in the forums. The info you provide is really great!

   This conversion built 360 packages. There was only one package that
didn't build (apmd) and there was already a bug reported on that. The
only thing that could have gone a bit smoother was better support for
a ndiswrapper wireless install. (In my case a /etc/init.d/net.wlan0
file would have pretty much done the trick.)

   Also the flexibility of the Gentoo install allowed me to use the
existing grub setup making the machine dual boot from the get go.
After Gentoo has been stable for a few days we'll get rid of the FC2
partitions but for now it's great to have them.

   Having done Gentoo installations a few time (10-15 maybe) I must
say I really like the process. The only thing that struck me this time
was the need to build a kernel before having installed grub and
rebooted. I think I would have preferred to just boot the binary
kernel that the CD was using and then only build my real kernel once
but I wasn't sure what to grab to make that work. This way I build -r3
and then pretty much immediately threw it away and built -r6. A small
complaint indeed.

   So, again, a big thanks to you guy who make this possible. Really cool work.

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:21:14 +0200 Bastian Balthazar Bux
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| agree, use ext2 but with 20Mb you have space only for three 2.6
| kernels, maybe 50 Mb is better

What, are these turn absolutely everything to Y kernels? Three
compressed kernels in twenty megs leads to kernels which're so big they
won't even boot.

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[gentoo-user] 2005.0 server install

2005-04-17 Thread A. Khattri


Jus doing my first server install with the 2005.0 release. Have a few
questions:

1. Do you longer need to emerge e2fsprogs? (Seems to be already
installed).

2. Do I need udevtools?

3. Do I need coldplug?

Nice to see gentoo-source now using 2.6 kernels :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:21:14 +0200 Bastian Balthazar Bux
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | agree, use ext2 but with 20Mb you have space only for three 2.6
 | kernels, maybe 50 Mb is better
 
 What, are these turn absolutely everything to Y kernels? Three
 compressed kernels in twenty megs leads to kernels which're so big they
 won't even boot.
 


web boot # du -k *
133 Kerntypes-2.4.21-144-athlon
901 System.map
620 System.map-2.4.21-144-athlon
787 System.map-2.6.8.1-mm3
901 System.map-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
1   backup_mbr
0   boot
29  config
53  config-2.4.21-144-athlon
28  config-2.6.8.1-mm3
29  config-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
951 grub
973 initrd-2.4.21-144-athlon
849 initrd-2.6.8.1-mm3
1372initrd-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
2008kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
12  lost+found
80  memtest.bin
1409vmlinux-2.4.21-144-athlon.gz
0   vmlinuz
1189vmlinuz-2.4.21-144-athlon
2008vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-mm3
2008vmlinuz-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
web boot # du -sh
16M .

zcat /proc/config.gz  | grep -v is not set | grep -v ^# \
| grep -v ^$

CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_X86_PC=y
CONFIG_MK7=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=6
CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_3DNOW=y
CONFIG_HPET_TIMER=y
CONFIG_HPET_EMULATE_RTC=y
CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE_NONFATAL=y
CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_REGPARM=y
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y
CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_APM=y
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y
CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y
CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y
CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG=y
CONFIG_PCI_LEGACY_PROC=y
CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_YENTA=y
CONFIG_CARDBUS=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CRYPTOLOOP=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE=8192
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
CONFIG_LBD=y
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=y
CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL=y
CONFIG_IDE_TASKFILE_IO=y
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_OLD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
CONFIG_SCSI=y
CONFIG_SCSI_PROC_FS=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_ST=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=y
CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SPI_ATTRS=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AACRAID=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX=m
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=32
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_RESET_DELAY_MS=15000
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_DEBUG_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_DEBUG_MASK=0
CONFIG_AIC7XXX_REG_PRETTY_PRINT=y
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC7XXX_OLD=m
CONFIG_SCSI_AIC79XX=m
CONFIG_AIC79XX_CMDS_PER_DEVICE=32
CONFIG_AIC79XX_RESET_DELAY_MS=15000
CONFIG_AIC79XX_DEBUG_ENABLE=y
CONFIG_AIC79XX_DEBUG_MASK=0
CONFIG_AIC79XX_REG_PRETTY_PRINT=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SVW=m
CONFIG_SCSI_ATA_PIIX=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_PROMISE=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=m
CONFIG_SCSI_BUSLOGIC=m
CONFIG_SCSI_DMX3191D=y
CONFIG_SCSI_EATA=m
CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_MAX_TAGS=16
CONFIG_SCSI_EATA_PIO=m
CONFIG_SCSI_FUTURE_DOMAIN=m
CONFIG_SCSI_GDTH=m
CONFIG_SCSI_IPS=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_2=m
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DMA_ADDRESSING_MODE=1
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_DEFAULT_TAGS=16
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX_MAX_TAGS=64
CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y

Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 server install

2005-04-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
A. Khattri wrote:
 
 Jus doing my first server install with the 2005.0 release. Have a few
 questions:
 
 1. Do you longer need to emerge e2fsprogs? (Seems to be already
 installed).
Don't know but i think it has utility for ext3 too
 
 2. Do I need udevtools?

what's this?, it's not present on my boxes

eix udev
* app-text/uudeview
[...]
 Installed:   no
[...]
* sys-fs/udev
[...]
 Installed:   056
[...]
Found 2 matches


 
 3. Do I need coldplug?

yes it make some work in your place ... if u remember to enable it via
rc-update


 
 Nice to see gentoo-source now using 2.6 kernels :-)
 
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 server install

2005-04-17 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:

  2. Do I need udevtools?

 what's this?, it's not present on my boxes

I guess I meant udev - I just checked and it looks like its already
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerged glibc does not work

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Fish
Erik wrote:

Hello,
now I tried again to emerge the new version of glibc, but it failed
again. After the emerge (and even after rebooting), some important
programs, such as login and python no longer work. They cause
segmentation fault. To boot the system I had to add init=/bin/bash to
the GRUB command line. To recover I had to boot from a livecd and copy
the working glibc files from a livecd image into /lib.
  


Strange.  I've updated glibc versions several times without a hitch. 
Are you confident in your USE flags?  After an upgrade (and the reboot
with init=/bin/bash trick), what does 'ldd /bin/login' or 'ldd
/usr/bin/python' report?  What error results when you try to run one of
those programs?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerged glibc does not work

2005-04-17 Thread Erik
Richard Fish wrote:

Erik wrote:

  

Hello,
now I tried again to emerge the new version of glibc, but it failed
again. After the emerge (and even after rebooting), some important
programs, such as login and python no longer work. They cause
segmentation fault. To boot the system I had to add init=/bin/bash to
the GRUB command line. To recover I had to boot from a livecd and copy
the working glibc files from a livecd image into /lib.
 




Strange.  I've updated glibc versions several times without a hitch. 
Are you confident in your USE flags?
  

I did not use USE flags.


 After an upgrade (and the reboot with init=/bin/bash trick), what does 'ldd 
 /bin/login' or 'ldd
/usr/bin/python' report?

I did not check that. I will next time.


  What error results when you try to run one of
those programs?
  

Segmentation fault.
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[gentoo-user] Wireless: dhcpcd starts too early

2005-04-17 Thread Ed Jabbour
At boot, when wlan0 starts up, I get a msg that dhcpcd is already running, so 
- no connection.  I have to start it manually after rm'ing the pid file.  
I've run rc-update del on pcmcia, netmount. net.lo and hotplug.  Anyone w/ a 
notion what's starting up dhcpcd before net.wlan0 gets called?  Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.0 server install

2005-04-17 Thread Bastian Balthazar Bux
A. Khattri wrote:
 On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote:
 
 
2. Do I need udevtools?

what's this?, it's not present on my boxes
 
 
 I guess I meant udev - I just checked and it looks like its already
 installed.
 
 
you can avoid using it ... but why ?
It's the /dev manager for 2.6 kernels, it replaces (well) devfs
No more pain of MAKEDEV et similar, try it you will love it.


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[gentoo-user] libwxgtk2.2

2005-04-17 Thread Al Bayrouni
Hello,
I need to install wxgtk2.2 because I have one program that uses it.
But the package found in portage is wxgtk2.4.
What do you recomend to me?
Thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] libwxgtk2.2

2005-04-17 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 23:15 +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:
 I need to install wxgtk2.2 because I have one program that uses it.
 But the package found in portage is wxgtk2.4.

The old ebuilds (earliest is 2.2.9) are still accessible via the gentoo
viewcvs:

http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/x11-libs/wxGTK/

It's anyone's guess whether that'll compile (dependencies etc.) though;
it could well be easier to update the program to the wxGTK 2.4 API.

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Re: [gentoo-user] libwxgtk2.2

2005-04-17 Thread Al Bayrouni
Edward Catmur wrote:
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 23:15 +0200, Al Bayrouni wrote:
I need to install wxgtk2.2 because I have one program that uses it.
But the package found in portage is wxgtk2.4.

The old ebuilds (earliest is 2.2.9) are still accessible via the gentoo
viewcvs:
http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/x11-libs/wxGTK/
It's anyone's guess whether that'll compile (dependencies etc.) though;
it could well be easier to update the program to the wxGTK 2.4 API.
But this prog have not update until now.
I shall try the old version because I haven't any choice.
Thank you
Bayrouni
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[gentoo-user] xdm and gdm login windows are different - how can I specify which to use

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Watson
Probably an obvious question but for the life of me I can't figure out how
to make xdm show the gdm login window at boot.

To explain when I set rc-update add xdm default the login window is
different to the one shown when I run gdm at the commandline.

I prefer the gdm login window. My wife is Italian and sometimes she prefers
to work off the desktop in Italian, and other times in English. The gdm
window allows her to easily switch between languages

Thanks, Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm and gdm login windows are different - how can I specify which to use

2005-04-17 Thread Nick Rout
read the fine manual and look in /etc/rc.conf, it is all explained.


On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 08:25:01 +1000
Richard Watson wrote:

 Probably an obvious question but for the life of me I can't figure out how
 to make xdm show the gdm login window at boot.
 
 To explain when I set rc-update add xdm default the login window is
 different to the one shown when I run gdm at the commandline.
 
 I prefer the gdm login window. My wife is Italian and sometimes she prefers
 to work off the desktop in Italian, and other times in English. The gdm
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerged glibc does not work

2005-04-17 Thread Alex Bennee
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 21:22 +0200, Erik wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:

   What error results when you try to run one of
 those programs?
   
 
 Segmentation fault.

I've seen this before:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/114627

Did you seem a similer error at the end of emerging glibc?

If you do an emerge -p -v glibc what USE flags do you get?

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Re: [gentoo-user] 100% disk full again

2005-04-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:50:14 -0400
Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 right? wrong?  what does a portage cleaner look like?

http://clug.net.nz/index.php/GentooTips

 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm and gdm login windows are different - how can I specify which to use

2005-04-17 Thread Mark Knecht
Set /etc/rc.conf so that DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm. then the xdm at default
will actually start gdm.

- Mark

On 4/17/05, Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Probably an obvious question but for the life of me I can't figure out how
 to make xdm show the gdm login window at boot.
 
 To explain when I set rc-update add xdm default the login window is
 different to the one shown when I run gdm at the commandline.
 
 I prefer the gdm login window. My wife is Italian and sometimes she prefers
 to work off the desktop in Italian, and other times in English. The gdm
 window allows her to easily switch between languages
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] xdm and gdm login windows are different - how can I specify which to use

2005-04-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:31:43 +1200
Jamie Dobbs wrote:

 Try
 
 rc-update del xdm default
 rc-update add gdm default
 
 This will change your logon manager to gdm

BZZZT wrong! Change DISPLAYMANAGER= in /etc/rc.conf

There is no /etc/init.d/gdm (or kdm) script in gentoo.

 
 Richard Watson wrote:
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerged glibc does not work

2005-04-17 Thread Erik
Alex Bennee wrote:

On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 21:22 +0200, Erik wrote:
  

Richard Fish wrote:



  

 What error results when you try to run one of
those programs?
 

  

Segmentation fault.



I've seen this before:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/114627
  

Interesting, thanks!


Did you seem a similer error at the end of emerging glibc?
  

I do not remember, but I think the last thing I saw was something like
processed 317 info files. I would have to try again to take a closer
look at the end of the output.


If you do an emerge -p -v glibc what USE flags do you get?
  

[ebuild   R   ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1  -build -debug -erandom
-hardened (-multilib) +nls -nomalloccheck -nptl -nptlonly -pic
-userlocales 0 kB
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[gentoo-user] Wacky Mouse...

2005-04-17 Thread David Corbin
Today, my mouse has gone wacky.  Previously I had a fine working Gentoo/X11 
system on my Dell I8600.  A week ago, upgraded my profile, and updated the 
system, including switching to udev. I had no problem for the last week, so I 
believe that all worked well.

Today, I did another update (emerge -uavD world), and started to muck with 
user-mode linux.  This did necessitate a rebuild of my kernel, and a reboot.  
When I was done, my pointer is wacky.

Wacky mean the pointer is largely stuck near the bottom left corner of the  
display.   Any attempt to move it generates a great deal of flashing of the 
pointer.  When I start X, the pointer appears dead center of the screen, 
until I touch the touchpad at which point it jumps to the bottom left area of 
the screen.

I've reviewed what was emerged, and I don't think anything is likely to have 
caused this problem.  I've tried changing my config to not use the synaptics 
drive, but that had no effect.

Any ideas?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread W.Kenworthy
A case of YMMV I'm afraid

I will not touch ext2/3 again except for /boot (because its simple and
does not seem to have problems - as long as you leave it unmounted that
is - live and learn!) as it is the only file system I regularly lost
files on (a laptop that would crash every couple of weeks due to
hardware/suspend to ram etc issues), and whole filesystems (40G files +
OS at christmas for instance.  reiserfs isnt perfect, some years back I
lost a few minor files (this is not counting hardware failure where I
have experience that reiserfs handles failing/failed disks far better
than ext2/3 - important when you want to get the data off!

Others seem to have good things to say about ext 2/3 though, so its a
case of try it and see how it works for you.

BillK


On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 23:47 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Hi,


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[gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware

2005-04-17 Thread Ow Mun Heng
Hi All,

I just installed Gentoo-2005.0 into vmware. Had to do it 2 times
because the 1st time I used scsi disks and the kernel couldn't find the
partition. (I guess this is because I didn't compile the BusLogic Scsi
card directly into the kernel and kept it as a module; not to mention me
being lazy to want to make a initrd :-)

Anyway, after the install, I removed /usr/portage and exported my
laptop's portage tree via nfs instead and I've got the size of a default
install to 900MB. (isn't this a bit huge??) But for some reason, the
virtual disks in VMware is like 2GB in size. I know there'a way to
shrink it, and after looking at vmware's docs, it seems its only
applicable for Window Hosts/Guests(?). 

Is there a way to do it under VMware? 

Another thing, what's the performance difference with running as scsi
disks vs running ide disks? (this laptop(D600+1.4Ghz Centrino) has 512MB
ram with 200MB reserved for vmware. If I upgraded to 1.2GB RAM and gave
512 to Vmware, would there be better performance? I noticed that running
vmware gets my CPU usage averaging 80% all the time)


PS : Currently mounting a smbfs partition and then doing

tar -cf /mnt/smbfs/gentoo.tar.gz /



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Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel

2005-04-17 Thread Peter Gordon
Odd. Does your user have read/write priveleges to /dev/dri/card0 (and any other
cardN devices that may be there)? Try running `chmod a+rw /dev/dri/*` as root
and see if glxinfo reports that you're using direct rendering. If this works
you'll need to add yourself to the video group:

# gpasswd -a user video

Then log out and log back in again for the changes to take effect.

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[gentoo-user] Keeping files synced

2005-04-17 Thread Tom Moyer
I routinely switch between two different systems, and was wondering if
there was an easy way to keep my files synced between the two systems.
 I'm wondering if there is an application I can use or anything like
that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Keeping files synced

2005-04-17 Thread Nick Rout
unison

http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

its in portage

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:15:45 -0400
Tom Moyer wrote:

 I routinely switch between two different systems, and was wondering if
 there was an easy way to keep my files synced between the two systems.
  I'm wondering if there is an application I can use or anything like
 that?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?

2005-04-17 Thread Peter Gordon
Ext3 has yet to give me  a single problem in the 2+ years that I've been using
it
(since my first GNU/Linux adventures on RH9). ReiserFS, on the other hand, was
continually misbehaving (segfaults, floating point exceptions, journal replay
errors, etc.) both times I tried to use it for a Stage1 Gentoo install (the
second time just using it for /usr/portage and /var/tmp/portage).

I've not any experience with other filesystems so I can't knowledgably comment
on them, but I very highly recommend ext3. For what it's worth, I've posted a
few tips[1] on Gentoo's DTT forum to help you improve reliablity and
performance
on an ext3 filesystem.

[1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-305871.html

On a related but off-topic note: Thank you for your hard work Stephen Tweedie
and others! =D
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[gentoo-user] Re: Local phenomena or is reiserfs quite slow

2005-04-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How did you do this conversion?  Reiserfs exhibits poor performance if
 you simply extract an archive of a different filesystem.

I installed gentoo with reiserfs as fs of choice.

So the files being rm'ed were built on reiserfs from the start.

I'm comparing to just a percieved difference in processing on former
os of choice Fedora Test 4 using ext3 throughout.  
As posted in previous message, I no longer had an ext3 fs to try an
actual comparison.  

So to clearup any misconceptions I may have fostered with my post.

1) I'm really just saying my current reiserfs system seems to do
   certain kinds of things much slower than form ext3 (under Fedora)
   system. 

2) I've made no actual comparison... I've only timed a few chores
   performed on reiserfs, and they seem to be rather slow for a 
   P4 2 ghz (Machine is a couple years old).

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[gentoo-user] Re: Local phenomena or is reiserfs quite slow

2005-04-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 On Sunday 17 April 2005 15:52, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Recently switched from using ext3 (under fedora)  to reiserfs (under
 gentoo).

 I'm noticing what seems to be really long processing times for certain
 file manipulation chores.


Not sure how to tell if udma is on or not... it isn't mentioned in
this output unless you meant `dma':

 hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 multcount= 16 (on)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 60040544256, start = 0

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[gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?

2005-04-17 Thread Nick Rout
Now I don't mind a strip of ads down the page on the gentoo web server,
but when I click on the one that says No BS Dedicated Gentoo Linux Servers 
from vr.org. and get a page that says :

The vr.org server special has ended. Please check back in the next few
weeks for information on our next special or sign up to be notified  be
first in line. 
If you want more information about our previous offer, you can see it here.
Thanks for your interest,
The vr.org Team


it just annoys me. Its has been like that for at least a few weeks, it
doesn't inspire me to use vr.org, it doesn't instill me with confidence
in the people who actually vet these ads and put them on gentoo's front
page.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Local phenomena or is reiserfs quite slow

2005-04-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 18 April 2005 05:00, Harry Putnam wrote:
 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi,
 
  On Sunday 17 April 2005 15:52, Harry Putnam wrote:
  Recently switched from using ext3 (under fedora)  to reiserfs (under
  gentoo).
 
  I'm noticing what seems to be really long processing times for certain
  file manipulation chores.

 Not sure how to tell if udma is on or not... it isn't mentioned in
 this output unless you meant `dma':

  hdparm /dev/hda

 /dev/hda:
  multcount= 16 (on)
  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
  unmaskirq=  0 (off)
  using_dma=  1 (on)
  keepsettings =  0 (off)
  readonly =  0 (off)
  readahead= 256 (on)
  geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 60040544256, start = 0

well, your udma is on .. but you could do yourself a favour try this as root:

hdparm -u1 -c1 /dev/hda

this will set unmaskirq, which is usually a good thing, allowing processing of 
interrupts, while the drive is busy. c1 will set io_support to 32. 

Both should give you a little bit of speedup.

With hdparm -iI /dev/hda you can check which (u)dma mode is used by your 
drive.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Software Suspend2 using Gentoo Ebuilds - New Magazine MyOSS Mag

2005-04-17 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 10:00 +0530, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
 Nick Rout wrote:
  Definitely not spam, thats a great article.

 Yes, I agree. The issue was a very good read. Keep it up :)

Edition 2 is already in the works. If any of you guys feel up to it,
please send in your articles and we'll publish it.

One of the biggest problems in sustaining the Mag is in looking for
contributing writers.

Please do consider it.

 
 Visit the Site -- http://mag.my-opensource.org
 
 Comments are appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?

2005-04-17 Thread Tres Melton
Please be kind to the Gentoo folks.  They have sold ad space, placed the
add that the sponsor wanted them to and linked it to the site that the
sponsor wanted them to.  The Gentoo folks have done everything right so
that they can collect some money to help run the site.  If you want to
complain (and slashdot's full) then tell the people at vr.org.  I'm sure
they vetted it for p0rn, scams, and ability to pay;  they are too busy
doing things that help Gentoo to babysit irresponsible advertisers.

I'd like to thank everyone at Gentoo for a great product and a great web
experience.

Best Regards,
Tres

On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 15:02 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
 Now I don't mind a strip of ads down the page on the gentoo web server,
 but when I click on the one that says No BS Dedicated Gentoo Linux Servers 
 from vr.org. and get a page that says :
 
 The vr.org server special has ended. Please check back in the next few
 weeks for information on our next special or sign up to be notified  be
 first in line. 
 If you want more information about our previous offer, you can see it here.
 Thanks for your interest,
 The vr.org Team
 
 
 it just annoys me. Its has been like that for at least a few weeks, it
 doesn't inspire me to use vr.org, it doesn't instill me with confidence
 in the people who actually vet these ads and put them on gentoo's front
 page.
 -- 
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RE: [gentoo-user] unmerge without deleting?

2005-04-17 Thread Brandon Enright
Not directly that I'm aware of.  You could build a binary package of it so that
you re-emerge your binary at a later date.

You may also want to look into ccache as it can dramatically speed up a
re-compile of a package.

--Brandon

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:33 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] unmerge without deleting?
 
 Is it possible to unmerge an ebuild without deleting the files?  In other
 words, is it possible to unmerge to a package in case you want to re-merge it
 in the future without having to rebuild?
 
 Thanks
 Robert
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[gentoo-user] Anyone using gnat/bindx

2005-04-17 Thread Digby Tarvin
I have just done an emerge of gnat and adabindx and am having a bit
of trouble building the bindx demo programs to verify that it all
installed correctly...

The emege didn't leave a lot of clues as to what it had done, but
had there been a 'ReadMe' describing the adaptation to gentoo
portage, I surmise it should have said something like:
gcc 2.8.1 is installed as the version needed by gnat, and...
the executive is renamed 'gnatgcc' to avoid conflict with newer 
compilers..
Once you know the command to execute, it seems to work fine.

However I was less sucessful with the emerge of the adabindx X bindings, which
seemed to create the directories:
/usr/lib/ada/adalib/adabindx
and
/usr/lib/ada/adainclude/adabindx
where the lib directory contained a lot of .ali files but no actual
libraries except for a broken symlink to from libadabindx.a
to a non-existant libadabindx-0.7.2.a. The sources to the library files
seemed to exist in the include directory.

In addition, a directory called:
/usr/share/doc/adabindx-0.7.2
was created and contained some original documentation files and a
directory of sample programs. However the makefiles for these all
assumed the existance of a 'Local.conf' file which was supposed to
have been left over from the install - however it did not seem to
exist. The symbols it is supposed to define, and the values for the
ones I have worked out, are as follows:
ADA_MAKE=gnatmake
ADA_MAKE_FLAGS=
ADA_LINK_FLAGS=
XLIB_DIR=
XM_LIBS=-lXm
XMU_LIBS=-lXmu
ADABINDX_LIBS=

However clearly something else is still missing, as I have not yet managed
to get the sample programs to link as there seems to be some sort of
C glue that is not being found, with unresolved names such as
interfaces__c__wstrings__strlen
interfaces__c__wstrings__value__3
interfaces__c__wstrings(float, long double,...)(...)

So I am guessing that I am missing some magic from the 'Local.conf'
definitions, but couldn't find any libraries defining the missing
symbols.

I am pretty sure this all worked when I installed it from a tarball
on a different system a few years ago. But before I go back to trying
it that way, does anyone have any ideas on what happened to the
missing file, or what need to add to resolve the link errors?

Thanks
DigbyT

P.S. I also found that my build directory filled up with object files
which seem to be the result of compiling the xbind sources - any know
if this is supposed to happen, or is it just because the link to the
library object was broken..?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Fish
Ow Mun Heng wrote:

Is there a way to do it under VMware? 
  

I got a little confused reading your email.  Are you running VMWare on
Linux or on Windows?  If on Linux, you can resize virtual disks with
vmware-vdiskmanager.  You will need to shrink the filesystems in the
guestOS first, then shrink the partitions, and then you can use
vdiskmanager to shink the 'drive' itself.

Another thing, what's the performance difference with running as scsi
disks vs running ide disks? 

None, from what I can tell.  Actually, I get (slightly) better
performance with IDE, but this is running windows guests, not linux.

(this laptop(D600+1.4Ghz Centrino) has 512MB
ram with 200MB reserved for vmware. If I upgraded to 1.2GB RAM and gave
512 to Vmware, would there be better performance? 


Of course, more memory is *always* better.  My next system will have 2G
of RAM mostly so I can run 2 VMs with 512MB each.

-Richard

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