Re: [gentoo-user] boot with serial console
Am Freitag, 15. April 2005 16:29 schrieb ext Frank Schafer: ... if I remember right it has. You'll have to remove your graphics card so that the kernel sends everything to the first serial port found. Of course NOT. If the kernel has support for a serial console, it will send output to the serial port regardless of any graphics hardware. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpc4g6hO6V6G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 07:28 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote: Is there a way to do it under VMware? I got a little confused reading your email. Are you running VMWare on Linux or on Windows? If on Linux, you can resize virtual disks with vmware-vdiskmanager. You will need to shrink the filesystems in the guestOS first, then shrink the partitions, and then you can use vdiskmanager to shink the 'drive' itself. Sorry.. it's like this __Laptop | | | Gentoo __ | | Linux | VMware | | | Main| | | | OS | Gentoo | | | | 2005.0 | | | |_| | | | |___| That should make it clearer. I read about vdiskmanager, but it does not offer that capability. And Vmware _does_ have this capability if you're running Windows as the Guest OS in Vmware. (this laptop(D600+1.4Ghz Centrino) has 512MB ram with 200MB reserved for vmware. If I upgraded to 1.2GB RAM and gave 512 to Vmware, would there be better performance? Of course, more memory is *always* better. My next system will have 2G of RAM mostly so I can run 2 VMs with 512MB each. Can you validate that in real-life?? Since I see my CPU usage is 80% all the time. Need to know if it's RAM or CPU dependent. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 14:16:35 up 1 day, 33 min, 6 users, load average: 0.58, 0.62, 0.60 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wacky Mouse...
Hi, while I don't know what's causing your specific problem, this sounds a lot like the behavior you would see back in the day when you set the mouse protocol to PS/2 when the mouse device was really a serial mouse, or vice versa. Try changing the mouse protocol in the xorg configuration file and see if that helps. Regards, Andreas On 4/18/05, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, my mouse has gone wacky. Previously I had a fine working Gentoo/X11 system on my Dell I8600. A week ago, upgraded my profile, and updated the system, including switching to udev. I had no problem for the last week, so I believe that all worked well. Today, I did another update (emerge -uavD world), and started to muck with user-mode linux. This did necessitate a rebuild of my kernel, and a reboot. When I was done, my pointer is wacky. Wacky mean the pointer is largely stuck near the bottom left corner of the display. Any attempt to move it generates a great deal of flashing of the pointer. When I start X, the pointer appears dead center of the screen, until I touch the touchpad at which point it jumps to the bottom left area of the screen. I've reviewed what was emerged, and I don't think anything is likely to have caused this problem. I've tried changing my config to not use the synaptics drive, but that had no effect. Any ideas? David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerge without deleting?
On Sun, 2005-04-17 at 21:32 -0700, Robert Persson wrote: Is it possible to unmerge an ebuild without deleting the files? In other words, is it possible to unmerge to a package in case you want to re-merge it in the future without having to rebuild? Thanks Robert The easiest way is to use quickpkg to create a binary, unmerge the app and then reemerge it with the -k switch to use the created binary package. -- Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:02:26 +1200 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | it just annoys me. Its has been like that for at least a few weeks, it | doesn't inspire me to use vr.org, it doesn't instill me with | confidence in the people who actually vet these ads and put them on | gentoo's front page. They're paying (or providing us with bandwidth/hardware) in return for that ad. If they want to display a please come back later page, that's their choice. Note: this is *entirely* separate from the crap that shows up sometimes on store.gentoo.org. The store isn't run, owned or operated by the Gentoo Foundation -- it's a private thing that's only around because the owner has Gentoo held by the nuts on a few legal issues. So don't start up the whole free imacs flamewar again, mkay? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpVt8sQCI67Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] CUPS printing
Hi list, I try to setup a network printer attached to a Wondies printserver. I have CUPS and Foomatic installed and try to follow the instructions of the Gentoo printing-howto. foomatic gives me an error: foomatic-configure -s cups -p Canon-imageRunner_330s -n Canon -c smb://steffi/Canon\ iR2270\/iR2870\ PCL6 -d hpijs Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Foomatic/DB.pm line 3427. lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible Could not set up/change the queue Canon! The web interface of CUPS - Configure printer gives: Error: client-error-not-possible and the advanced tab of gnome-cups-manager is empty. Has anyone an idea what I might be missing? Thanks in advance Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:17:33 +0200 Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some | journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1 | (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap). If you care about your data, use ext3. Amen. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unmerging kde-3.3
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:25:02 -0700, Robert Persson wrote: Your solution worked, but I needed one extra step. I had to qpkg -I -v -nc -g kde-base | grep 3.3.2 | xargs emerge -C after I qpkg -I -v -nc -g kde-base | grep 3.3.2 | xargs emerge -Ca Couldn't you just respond y to the query at the end of the first command? I had already uninstalled 3.3.2, so I was quoting that from memory, but I thought emerge -Ca did the usual --ask thing. -- Neil Bothwick Does someone know the cheats for WindowsXP? pgpxtfdyz6alb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 08:50 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: start up the whole free imacs flamewar again, mkay? You Watch too much southpark. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 17:54:35 up 2:30, 4 users, load average: 0.15, 0.29, 0.34 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS printing
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:33 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: foomatic-configure -s cups -p Canon-imageRunner_330s -n Canon -c smb://steffi/Canon\ iR2270\/iR2870\ PCL6 -d hpijs Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Foomatic/DB.pm line 3427. lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible Could not set up/change the queue Canon! Probably the problem is the '/' character in the printer name. You could try over-escaping it on the command line (\\/, /, \\/ etc.) but it'd likely be easier to remove the slash from the printer name. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Hi, I also couldn't resist to answer :-) the choice of the right FS tends to be some kind of religion... ??? But we use gentoo and we decide on facts. Didn't we? :-) The gentoo-father Daniel Robbins gives us a brief introduction to the differnt FSs. See http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/articles.xml - Advanced filesystem implementer's guide. There you can learn that ext3 is the only one with true data-journaling. That it was not reiser's fault that causes problems (data lose) in kernel 2.4.x-2.4.1y. And hopefully many more... Sascha. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xbindkeys
Hello, I try to run xbindkeys on startup I put it in /etc/conf.d/local.start I have a .xbindkeysrc in both homes (me and root) When I launch xbindkeys manually, it starts normally and I can use the resource file (.xbindkeysrc). But I have this message at each reboot: Error: xbindkeys not found or reading not allowed please, create one with xbindkeys --default vers //.xbindkeysrc. Failed to start local Thank you Al Bayrouni -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xbindkeys
Le 04/18/05 avril Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: Hello, I try to run xbindkeys on startup I put it in /etc/conf.d/local.start I have a .xbindkeysrc in both homes (me and root) When I launch xbindkeys manually, it starts normally and I can use the resource file (.xbindkeysrc). But I have this message at each reboot: Error: xbindkeys not found or reading not allowed please, create one with xbindkeys --default vers //.xbindkeysrc. Failed to start local I don't know about launching it sitewide, but starting xbindkeys automatically per user is very easy. If you use eg xfce, just put a link to it in ~/Desktop/Autostart. For kde or gnome there are specific places to make a link. cheers, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier |Cours Victor Hugo e-mots: jean at bornier.net|13980 Alleins France T 08 70 39 34 03 |P 06 09 17 35 87 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xbindkeys
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 12:34 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: I don't know about launching it sitewide, but starting xbindkeys automatically per user is very easy. If you use eg xfce, just put a link to it in ~/Desktop/Autostart. For kde or gnome there are specific places to make a link. Gnome: add an entry to ~/.gnome2/session-manual. For a site-wide item, use /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ or /etc/X11/Xsession.d/. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS printing
Thanks! Well, I know this. As I said, I'm printing to a Wondies server. This one isn't owned by me, so renaming the printer isn't a choice. I found something more on the CUPS documentation: To configure CUPS for SAMBA, run the following command: ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb ENTER I do not have samba installed. Will I need a further USE flag? Will I need to reemerge everything after the USE flag changes (See the empty ''Advanced'' tab in gnome-cups-manager)? Is this a (at least documentation) bug, which has to be filed? Frank On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:00 +0100, Edward Catmur wrote: On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:33 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: foomatic-configure -s cups -p Canon-imageRunner_330s -n Canon -c smb://steffi/Canon\ iR2270\/iR2870\ PCL6 -d hpijs Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Foomatic/DB.pm line 3427. lpadmin: add-printer (set device) failed: client-error-not-possible Could not set up/change the queue Canon! Probably the problem is the '/' character in the printer name. You could try over-escaping it on the command line (\\/, /, \\/ etc.) but it'd likely be easier to remove the slash from the printer name. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:50 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Note: this is *entirely* separate from the crap that shows up sometimes on store.gentoo.org. The store isn't run, owned or operated by the Gentoo Foundation -- it's a private thing that's only around because the owner has Gentoo held by the nuts on a few legal issues. I thought there was an amicable agreement at the time of drobbin's departure that he should be able to run a store indefinitely to capitalise on his investment of time in developing Gentoo. Is that not the case? Stroller -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FC2 to Gentoo conversion
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 09:45:06 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Instead of using useradd to create user accounts can I just edit /etc/passwd /etc/group and place identical entries in the Gentoo side as the FC2 side and then have both distros use the same home directories? (Without Gentoo actually creating them?) I'd then run passwd for each user and hopefully folks could log in. Or is there more to creating a new user account? That should work, but you may run into problems sharing a home directory between two distros. When I tried this with Mandrake and Gentoo, my KDE settings kept getting screwed up, because both distros stored the settings in ~/.kde but were running slightly different versions. The solution I used was to do as you have done and have the same user names and UIDs on both distros, but use a different home directory, like /home/neil and /home/neil-gentoo. I then symlinked the directories I wanted to share, like my mail and documents from the former to the latter. It worked perfectly for the few weeks it took me to decide I no longer needed Mandrake. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as he said f**k in the wrong conference. pgpQxeWM98Yeb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 100% disk full again
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:00:59 -0300, Francisco Ares wrote: And that's a good point: /var/portage gets pretty full of hundreds of megs once in a while, and so does /usr/portage/distfiles and (in my case) /usr/portage/packages - so how could portage clean up by default the binary packages I don't think it could, because it doesn't know which ones you wish to keep. I don't know about your reasons, but I use buildpkg so I always have a binary of the previous version available, making it easy to roll back if a problem arises. -- Neil Bothwick Iraqi terrorist, Khay Rahnajet, didn't pay enough postage on a letter bomb. It came back with return to sender stamped on it. Forgetting it was the bomb, he opened it and was blown to bits. pgpU4RqrrYXeU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:25 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I read about vdiskmanager, but it does not offer that capability. And Vmware _does_ have this capability if you're running Windows as the Guest OS in Vmware. Have you installed vmware-tools into the guest OS? Once you do this, and run them, you can shrink disk files, provided you did not create them as flat files. -- Neil Bothwick I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury. pgpnDxjRrYwtq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Software Suspend2 using Gentoo Ebuilds - New Magazine MyOSS Mag
* Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-17 04:40]: - is it possible to patch the gentoo-sources kernel with the suspend2 patch? Or will it only apply cleanly to a vanilla kernel? I patched my standard gentoo kernel this way: http://onyon.net/index.php/2005-02-18_16.00.28_swsuspondelllatituded800 When you run apply and it complains about not being able to patch kernel cleanly move that patch out of the way and rerun apply, repeat this until all working patches are applied. Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: konqueror (kde icon) right click menu question
Monday 18 April 2005 14.02-n, Neil Bothwick ezt rta: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:34:26 +0200, Botykai Zsolt wrote: Remembering the old Suse and Debian days I really loved one feature in KDE: right click on an (or on a group of) icon(s) then select the Move to or Copy to item from the menu, then browsing the directory tree, where to copy/move the selected items. I know, Gentoo doesn't add this feature, so it should be a distribution specific thing (maybe I'm wrong), but I really want this features. Anybody know how to get this features on my Gentoo box? Are you sure it's not already there? The options are definitely present in KDE 3.4 on this Gentoo setup. bah, Found the solution: I just emerge kde-meta one day before (according to kdeaddons-meta Changelog) konq-plugins was added to kdeaddons-meta dependecy list. So after emergeing konq-plugins it's there now. But it's a bad policy IMHO. After changing (adding a dependecy) the ebuild should get a new (r1) version, or am I wrong? Zsoltik@ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System time drift problem
Le samedi 16 avril 2005 à 08:43 +0200, Dirk Raeder a écrit : Frédéric Grosshans wrote: Le vendredi 15 avril 2005 à 13:51 +0200, Dirk Raeder a écrit : do you have a CPU that can modulate its frequency? I don't think so (it's not a laptop). How do I check that ? In that case, activate HPET (high precision timer) in your kernel. This compensates the time drift caused by up/downclocking [...] For checking your CPU on frequency scaling: If you compiled the necessary functions into your kernel, do 'cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies' If your system reports more than one number, you have a scalable CPU. Otherwise, either recompile your kernel with the options set or look into your CPU specs. The directory /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ doesn't even exist on my system. So I do not have cpu scaling... Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mozilla/Firefox/Thunderbird/Nvu/etc
It's actually a Mozilla thing. The Mozilla apps are usually individually hacked so often you can't run one piece of XUL code on another Gecko engine. i.e. Nvu won't work if you run it as chrome in Thunderbird. There's work on this and it should land for Firefox 2.0 or Firefox 1.5, and it's called XULRunner. On 4/17/05, Devon Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of these are built on the same set of libraries and each one downloads and builds its own copy. Is anyone investigating making the common code into a mozilla-core package?I'd really like a way to cut down the time spent building these apps.dcm-- Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Hello, I have had experience with reiserfs in the past (When I used to use Slackware) And I never had any problems with it. Currently I am using XFS on a laptop and so far so good (I has only been 4 months). XFS seems to be very, very fast. IMHO you cannot go wrong with either reiserfs or XFS. HTH -AR On 4/17/05, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm installing Gentoo 2005.0 using universal installation CD on a small, general purpose server (apache+mysql+php, mail, some net-games, teamspeak, ftp, shells, 20-30 users, etc.). Up to now I always used ext2, but now I want to try some journaling fs for my 2x160GB ata-disks, fully in raid1 (partitions: / /boot /var /tmp /usr /opt /home and swap). But even after reading of 2005.0-handbook, I have no idea which fs could be best for me. I tried to find some comparisons, but results are ambiguous. Could you give me some recommendation? I'd like to hear opinions especially from those who have personal experience with various fs... Thanks, Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:38:24 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:50 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Note: this is *entirely* separate from the crap that shows up | sometimes on store.gentoo.org. The store isn't run, owned or | operated by | the Gentoo Foundation -- it's a private thing that's only around | because | the owner has Gentoo held by the nuts on a few legal issues. | | I thought there was an amicable agreement at the time of drobbin's | departure that he should be able to run a store indefinitely to | capitalise on his investment of time in developing Gentoo. Is that not | the case? Heh, that's one way of spinning it. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgp5pOvfOpXuz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 12:38:24 +0100 Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Apr 18, 2005, at 8:50 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Note: this is *entirely* separate from the crap that shows up | sometimes on store.gentoo.org. The store isn't run, owned or | operated by | the Gentoo Foundation -- it's a private thing that's only around | because | the owner has Gentoo held by the nuts on a few legal issues. | | I thought there was an amicable agreement at the time of drobbin's | departure that he should be able to run a store indefinitely to | capitalise on his investment of time in developing Gentoo. Is that not | the case? Heh, that's one way of spinning it. So the store is owned by drobbins, and if I buy from the store I'll donate to him? If this is the case, then that's not exactly the way I thougt it to be, but it's okay for me. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: konqueror (kde icon) right click menu question
Botykai Zsolt wrote: I just emerge kde-meta one day before (according to kdeaddons-meta Changelog) konq-plugins was added to kdeaddons-meta dependecy list. So after emergeing konq-plugins it's there now. But it's a bad policy IMHO. After changing (adding a dependecy) the ebuild should get a new (r1) version, or am I wrong? No. Minor changes can be commited in the same gentoo revision of an ebuild. But it's definitly confusing... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] bash script question, strange grep
Hi 4 everyone, I have a little problem: i have a file list in /tmp/iadmos (contains 28 file name which are in the current directory, i made this list with: egrep -il 'trt_attr.*[,]iadm' t*.dcl /tmp/iadmos then I want to cut out the files which don't contain the string 'NOIADM'. So I did: for i in `cat /tmp/iadmos` ; do egrep -lv 'NOIADM' $i ; done which gave me all 28 file name. I wondered about it, so I tried: for i in `cat /tmp/iadmos` ; do egrep -l 'NOIADM' $i ; done which gave me 4 file i checked them they contain 'NOIADM' but why first egrep finds that they don't? (it's a really small problem, 'cause I checked it again, but it confuses me ...) Zsoltik@ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Software Suspend2 using Gentoo Ebuilds - New Magazine MyOSS Mag
Brix has been maintaining a suspend2_sources ebuild that handles the patching. http://dev.gentoo.org/~brix/files/overlay/sys-kernel/suspend2-sources/ dcm Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-04-17 04:40]: - is it possible to patch the gentoo-sources kernel with the suspend2patch? Or will it only apply cleanly to a vanilla kernel?
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS printing
To configure CUPS for SAMBA, run the following command: ln -s `which smbspool` /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb ENTER I do not have samba installed. Will I need a further USE flag? Will I need to reemerge everything after the USE flag changes (See the empty ''Advanced'' tab in gnome-cups-manager)? You need to merge cups with USE=samba, and samba with USE=cups. The backend symlink will be set up by the ebuild. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
On 4/18/05, Christoph Gysin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the store is owned by drobbins, and if I buy from the store I'll donate tohim? If this is the case, then that's not exactly the way I thougt it to be, but it's okay for me.Christoph--echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED]--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list From Googling, it looks like you'll be helping to pay his bills and his $20,000 worth of Gentoo-related debt... I haven't been around that long so I don't know for sure.-- Microsoft is a lot better at making money than it is at making good operating systems. -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update net.wlan0?
On 4/18/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:52:56 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: What am I missing here? Am I supposed to make some edits to /etc/conf.d/net? That might make sense but I'm not sure what to do. If so where do I get /etc/init.d/net.wlan0? Copy net.eth0 and rename? This is covered somewhere in the handbook, but basically you need ln -s net.eth0 /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 Neil, Thanks. That's probably a better answer as when changes are made in net.eth0 they'll be reflected in net.wlan0 also. Why isn't net.wlan0 (or the link) part of the normal install? Seems that would have been the one thing I needed to do a wireless install. thanks very much, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] bash script question, strange grep
then I want to cut out the files which don't contain the string 'NOIADM'. So I did: for i in `cat /tmp/iadmos` ; do egrep -lv 'NOIADM' $i ; done which gave me all 28 file name. I wondered about it, so I tried: for i in `cat /tmp/iadmos` ; do egrep -l 'NOIADM' $i ; done which gave me 4 file i checked them they contain 'NOIADM' but why first egrep finds that they don't? -lv lists files which contain a non-matching line. You want -L. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Who vets the gentoo front page ads?
Keith Gable wrote: From Googling, it looks like you'll be helping to pay his bills and his $20,000 worth of Gentoo-related debt... I haven't been around that long so I don't know for sure. That's why I spent money in the shop. I heard of his 20'000$ debts, caused by working on gentoo instead of earning money. Since Ciaran never mentioned the name of the owner, I wasn't sure if the money made it's way to the right person. Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Pavel wrote: Since I put Gentoo on my workstation (2 years ago ) , never had segfaults with reiser3fs ;) I prefer ***CENSURED*** for my /usr/portage , reiserfs for my /usr,/var,/boot,/home and XFS for my isos and music ssshhh don't ever mind at that file system if ciaranm is around ;) -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:52:55 -0400, A. R. wrote: Currently I am using XFS on a laptop and so far so good (I has only been 4 months). XFS seems to be very, very fast. XFS is probably a poor choice for a laptop, as it is the most likely to suffer data loss in the event of a power failure. I ran it on my laptop, and it was fast, but since everything as synced from the desktop, and the battery was so fscked I had to run from mains anyway, I took the risk. -- Neil Bothwick Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireless: Driver for BCM94306
Hello, I bought a new notebook compaq presario r3340us and they come with Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g wireless device, i have installed a gentoo 2005.0 amd64. the point is...the driver for windows (http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php) cause a segfault e complete crash out my system when is used with ndiswrapper(~amd64) from portage. Any one have this machine or have this problem? Tnx Max revolt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Slow sendmail
Ever since I installed Gentoo on my server box SMTP to the server and mail sent from the command line on the server has been slow. I looked it up on the sendmail FAQ, (Q3.12) and they said that I could add: define(`confTO_IDENT',`0s')dnl to my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and m4 the file to sendmail.cf, but when I try this I can no longer connect to the server's port 25 from remote machines. Has anyone dealt with this? I am running sendmail version 8.13... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment - that way I can retrieve them wherever I happen to be. I've heard of Bayonne (but can't find that in portage); understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). My ideal solution would get a basic answer-phone service up and running pretty quickly - but let me tweak it as I find time over the medium term. What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment - that way I can retrieve them wherever I happen to be. I've heard of Bayonne (but can't find that in portage); understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). My ideal solution would get a basic answer-phone service up and running pretty quickly - but let me tweak it as I find time over the medium term. What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? years ago I used hylafax. Only as fax. It's (well) written in C so it's easy to patch. -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
Joseph wrote: Asterisk - for answering system (might be overkill) Hylafax - for fax server Hmmm - That was my take on Asterisk too... if it really is the best way to do a voice-mail system - then I guess I should take the plunge... I'd still be interested to know if there are viable alternatives before I do... Steve -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Hi! If it's anything worth let me share my FS experiences. As a home user I tried EXT2/3, XFS and Reiser. Switched completly from EXT3 to XFS a couple of months ago for better performance. Survived a power fail without a single problem. In the contrary I failed two times running Reiser 3.6. In both cases the system ran fine for a couple of days and than kaboom! Turned my machine on in the morning and the Reiser partition was gone - without any change to recover. No logs - no nothing. For my business clients I strictly use EXT2/3 without any trouble for 2 years now. I really don't think there is a killer argument for or against a specfic FS. In theory they all have their strengths and weaknesses but in real life you have to make your own mistakes I guess ;-) Regards spox Am Montag, den 18.04.2005, 16:23 + schrieb Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales: Strange how Jarry is quiet about all this... Anyway, I've been using reiser for a long time, I had a small server for some things of mine (CVS, Apache, etc) running with it. It survived some intense eletrical storms and it didn't lose data for the 6 months it was up (Processor fried, so I had to shut it down ;) ). I kinda avoid ext(2|3) for pure prejudice. Don't have anything to complain about them, but when I migrated from Mandrake, I left behind everything that had anything to do with RPM distros*. Since they use ext3 as default FS, I changed that too. Since I got used to reiser, I never got back. So, basically, ext(2|3) are good and reliable, but, in my experience, so is reiserfs, and reiser is faster. Never used XFS, but from the previous comments, it seems to be very good in a very controlled enviroment (power backups, independent generator, no-breaks, etc) and for large files. It is a matter of compromise. What is the main purpose of your server? * - Don't ask me why, just started hating the damn thing... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Admin system documentation
Good afternoon, I had intended on starting my conversion from Suse 9.1 to Gentoo over the weekend, but the weather turned out to be way to nice to remain indoors. But in my planning stages I realized I have a bit of a longer learning curve than I initially anticipated. So, I'm going to remedy this by starting off with: Question #1 What do the professional (and amateur) admins among you consider to be essential system documentation in the event of a disaster. I am fairly well versed on the requirements of a M$ based system and network, but have only been dabbling in Linux for a couple years. Backups I know, but what is considered a fairly necessary _paper_ trail in the event that the unexpected happens, and a total rebuild is necessary in the shortest time possible. Thanks, John -- It is not unusual for those at the wrong end of the club to have a clearer picture of reality than those who wield it. Noam Chomsky -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel
Mark Knecht wrote: I've been trying to work through the Gentoo Hardware 3D instructions: Are you using a 2.6 kernel? Did you follow the instructions at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building (the drm and mesa parts)? Did you disable DRI support in the kernel config ? Did you put radeon into your xorg.conf ? What other info do I need to give? dmesg | grep drm grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I kinda avoid ext(2|3) for pure prejudice. Don't have anything to complain about them, but when I migrated from Mandrake, I left behind everything that had anything to do with RPM distros*. Since they use ext3 as default FS, I changed that too. ALL Linux distros can use ext3 as it is the official Linux file-system. The fact that a distro uses RPM instead of some other package manager has absolutely nothing to do with it... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Driver for BCM94306
Hi Max, I have a Compaq laptop also.I've never set it up for wireless so I decided to give it a shot. I happen to run ck-sources at the moment. Interesting results: flash linux # ndiswrapper -l Installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5a driver present, hardware present flash linux # lsmod | grep ndis flash linux # modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.11-ck4/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted flash linux # flash linux # lspci | grep 306 :02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) So I've got the right drivers, and the drivers recognize the BCM4306 (I assumes it's actually the same as the 94306...) but the ndiswrapper driver isn't loaded and I cannot load it with this kernel. Strange! - Mark On 4/18/05, revolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a new notebook compaq presario r3340us and they come with Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g wireless device, i have installed a gentoo 2005.0 amd64. the point is...the driver for windows (http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php) cause a segfault e complete crash out my system when is used with ndiswrapper(~amd64) from portage. Any one have this machine or have this problem? Tnx Max revolt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Huh? I have never ever had any power failures with my laptops, if the thing is connected to the power outlet and this one fails, well, the battery at least gives me a chance to gracefully shut down the computer. Maybe I made a newbie choice, but so far, no problems yet. Regards, -AR On 4/18/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 09:52:55 -0400, A. R. wrote: Currently I am using XFS on a laptop and so far so good (I has only been 4 months). XFS seems to be very, very fast. XFS is probably a poor choice for a laptop, as it is the most likely to suffer data loss in the event of a power failure. I ran it on my laptop, and it was fast, but since everything as synced from the desktop, and the battery was so fscked I had to run from mains anyway, I took the risk. -- Neil Bothwick Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] arts runs cpu overload and kills
Maybe a setting got hosed somewhere... You've _probably_ done this already, but double check the Hardware settings for artsd. The defaults (and safe) options are Alsa, with nothing else checked on the Hardware tab. -Richard Further oin this, If I emerge alsa-lib like emerge -u world wants to do , kde will not start. It locks up at teh splash screen, about when the sound server would be started. This appears to be a kde problem somewhere. What needs to be re-emerged I can't guess, It seems you can't just emerge kdebase-meta. It won't actually emerge anything again, just the xml meta I guess? Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.9-ck3| Win4Lin 5-1-18c netraverse.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel
On 4/18/05, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I've been trying to work through the Gentoo Hardware 3D instructions: Are you using a 2.6 kernel? Yes. Did you follow the instructions at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building (the drm and mesa parts)? No. The Gentoo instructions at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml stated If you use a 2.4 kernel, make sure the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is off. The X11-DRM package will provide its own. 2.6 kernel users should enable the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) as the X11-DRM package currently does not support 2.6 kernels yet. I took that to mean [ M] Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 DRI support) Is that not correct? Did you disable DRI support in the kernel config ? As above, I think. Did you put radeon into your xorg.conf ? Yes, and it is loaded as is drm: (copied from the first message) lash kernel $ lsmod Module Size Used by radeon 75776 1 drm60820 2 radeon ati_agp 6796 1 agpgart28968 2 drm,ati_agp flash kernel $ What other info do I need to give? dmesg | grep drm flash mark $ dmesg | grep drm [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.0 20040925 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.14.0 20050125 on minor 0: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] [drm] Loading R200 Microcode flash mark $ So it's loaded. grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log flash root # grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) Loading sub module drm (II) LoadModule: drm (II) Loading /usr/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor=X.Org Foundation drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999) drmOpenDevice: Open failed drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 6, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 6 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:05.0 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] loaded kernel module for radeon driver (II) RADEON(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.2 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid pci::01:05.0 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe0976000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe0976000 to 0xb3cd6000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xf000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel (II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0xe810 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers (II) RADEON(0): [drm] dma control initialized, using IRQ 16 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 5111808 flash root # flash root # cat /etc/group | grep video video::27:root,mark flash root # Thanks Benno! With best regards, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
I think you didn't got my point. I'm not saying that other distros can't use ext3. I just got mad with having to chase RPM dependencies and started hating RPM distros. The fact that they (Mandrake, RedHat, Fedora, Conectiva, etc) use ext3 as default made me hate ext3 too. I know now that it was a bad reason for changing to another filesystem, but I'm satisfied with ReiserFS and, unless it lets me down really bad in the near future, I don't intend to change fs again. ;) As I said before, I have no real complaints about ext3. :) 2005/4/18, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: I kinda avoid ext(2|3) for pure prejudice. Don't have anything to complain about them, but when I migrated from Mandrake, I left behind everything that had anything to do with RPM distros*. Since they use ext3 as default FS, I changed that too. ALL Linux distros can use ext3 as it is the official Linux file-system. The fact that a distro uses RPM instead of some other package manager has absolutely nothing to do with it... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Strange how Jarry is quiet about all this... I'm counting votes, and waiting for some final decision to come. I can not contribute to this discussion, because I have absolutely no experience with journaling filesystems at all. That's why I asked... Up to now I'm more confused than before posting my question. Anyway thanks to all who replied. Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Driver for BCM94306
Hi Mark, I've made a test with 64bit driver for windows and everything goes well...even when I run iwlist wlan0 scan, I can find my Access Point, but if i try to ping.I have a segfault... in my point of view, the problem are the version of ndiswrapper in portage. Any clue? Max Em Seg, 2005-04-18 às 10:28 -0700, Mark Knecht escreveu: Hi Max, I have a Compaq laptop also.I've never set it up for wireless so I decided to give it a shot. I happen to run ck-sources at the moment. Interesting results: flash linux # ndiswrapper -l Installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5a driver present, hardware present flash linux # lsmod | grep ndis flash linux # modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.11-ck4/misc/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted flash linux # flash linux # lspci | grep 306 :02:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) So I've got the right drivers, and the drivers recognize the BCM4306 (I assumes it's actually the same as the 94306...) but the ndiswrapper driver isn't loaded and I cannot load it with this kernel. Strange! - Mark On 4/18/05, revolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I bought a new notebook compaq presario r3340us and they come with Broadcom Corporation BCM94306 802.11g wireless device, i have installed a gentoo 2005.0 amd64. the point is...the driver for windows (http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php) cause a segfault e complete crash out my system when is used with ndiswrapper(~amd64) from portage. Any one have this machine or have this problem? Tnx Max revolt -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portatge 4Q-2002 / 3Q-2003
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:59:33 -0600 Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In addition to current portage: 3Q-2004, I still have in | portage/profile/updates: 4Q-2002 / 3Q-2003 | | Do I need them? | Is it safe to remove it? Step away from the updates files! -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpI2Ht63jobf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Sometimes that happens, too much information. If I had to make a decision, in your case, I'd use ext3. Everyone said it was stable, reliable. All the others show some cases of failure. Maybe you can put two test volume with reiserfs and xfs with data that is not really significant and benchmark, test for data corruption, etc. You can't go wrong with ext3. ;) 2005/4/18, Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Strange how Jarry is quiet about all this... I'm counting votes, and waiting for some final decision to come. I can not contribute to this discussion, because I have absolutely no experience with journaling filesystems at all. That's why I asked... Up to now I'm more confused than before posting my question. Anyway thanks to all who replied. Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:33 pm, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I am looking at cobbling together a replacement for my antiquated hardware answer phone... Ideally I'd use my existing Voice/Fax Modem - and have voice mail messages delivered to me as emails in some appropriate attachment ... I've been doing this for about a year a half now - it's very convenient. understand that [vm]gety is a very low-level approach (which sounds a fair bit of work) and of Asterisk (which sounds as if it supports lots of functionality I don't need - as well as not explicitly stating that it can use my existing (voice/fax/modem hardware). I've been using vgetty - the version in Portage is pretty good, and once I actually sat down to configure it I had it mostly up running over the course of an evening - I think it sounds much more complicated than it is. Many modems are more or less supported, but I don't remember the details - searching reading the archives of the mgetty mailing list will see you right. If you decide to go this route I have scripts to mail the messages as .mp3 attachments that I can let you have; it does them as proper MIME, and they even play from the IMAP client on my new Windows CE mobile phone. :D I'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Slow sendmail
I thought it might be a DNS problem too (the sendmail FAQ said that it might be) but when sending mail while logged onto the server box took a long time too I discarded the idea... On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 13:27 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: Ever since I installed Gentoo on my server box SMTP to the server and mail sent from the command line on the server has been slow. I looked it up on the sendmail FAQ, (Q3.12) and they said that I could add: define(`confTO_IDENT',`0s')dnl to my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc and m4 the file to sendmail.cf, but when I try this I can no longer connect to the server's port 25 from remote machines. Has anyone dealt with this? I am running sendmail version 8.13... Slow connections may be because of either a reverse DNS lookup that fails (hence there is a delay while it timesout) or an IDENT lookup. (Google for IDENT and you will see what it is). Don't know much about sendmail (apart from it being horrible to configure - much better to go with postfix, exim or qmail IMHO). -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Admin system documentation
I just can't get my head around why you would want or need to do a total rebuild. I myself can't imagine _wanting_ to do a rebuild, but needing to, yes. Flood, tornado, theft, etc . Users have work to do. Let's see, what's my SAMBA configuration? And those SQL databases looked like what? How quickly could you bring a system with many users back online _and_ functional? If you are in a position of being responsible for thoses entities, you had better have your ass covered. That's what I'm trying to do. If your only method of getting a production system back online is by doing a full rebuild, then you are royally screwed. Most linux systems (especially gentoo-based) are in a constant state of flux. Users get added and removed, emerge updates packages and config files, databases have rows added/removed, etc. Your primary disaster recovery tool is the system backup. That will be the only way to get your system back to the state it was in before the failure occurred. Planning to rebuild from scratch rather than restore from backup ensures that a) you're going to need a huge window of time to get the system back to a functional state, b) you're going to need another huge window of time to get all of your configuration back in line with the current setup, and c) your data from databases will be basically lost (recreating tables is just the start of trying to bring it back online). So forget the 'rebuild' idea, it won't work and will be prone to failure. Instead focus on the appropriate tool to build system backups. Test your backup procedures and restoration procedures earnestly to ensure that what you plan to do for disaster recovery really will work. If you can get to a static system state (i.e. you stop emerging packages/updates), you could get away with a full system backup performed once followed by incremental backups from /etc, /var, and /home. And don't forget to take copies of the backup'd media offsite to another location; that way if the building goes under (with your system in it) you'll be able to get another system online based off of the offsite media. Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel
Mark Knecht wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml stated If you use a 2.4 kernel, make sure the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is off. The X11-DRM package will provide its own. 2.6 kernel users should enable the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) as the X11-DRM package currently does not support 2.6 kernels yet. I took that to mean [ M] Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 DRI support) Is that not correct? That depends: when building from CVS, it should be off. A different thing to try, from the 3D Acceleration Guide: Q: It doesn't work. I don't have rendering, and I can't tell why. A: Try insmod radeon before you start the X server. Also, try building agpgart into the kernel instead of as a module. Did you put radeon into your xorg.conf ? Yes, and it is loaded as is drm: (copied from the first message) lash kernel $ lsmod Module Size Used by radeon 75776 1 Well, that is the kernel module, radeon.ko :), what X needs for glxgears is /usr/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so. flash mark $ dmesg | grep drm [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.0 20040925 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.14.0 20050125 on minor 0: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] [drm] Loading R200 Microcode If preloading the module doesn't help, and building the agp stuff into the kernel neither, then try building the drm.ko and radeon.ko from CVS, the last one is probably newer. For a better summary: grep RADEON /var/log/Xorg.0.log Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] warning about missing signatures in Manifest-files
Hi, During the last day or two, when using 'emerge ...| esync' receive too much warnings about missing signatures in Manifest files, does somebody also has such problems? Till now for a week didn't have warning like these. Could repair this by removing 'gpg' from FEATURES but don't want to. TIA. Rumen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
What do other gentoo users do for answer phone and/or fax services for a POTS line? You might want to check out vocp (http://vocpsystem.com/) as an alternative - there's a (horribly experimental - read: partially completed) ebuild for it on bugs.gentoo.org... I'm still trying to tweak stuff to get it working, but it's pretty straight-forward. What kind of modem are you using? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Capturing caller id data...
I've got caller id on my home phone line. Is there a way to throw a modem on my gentoo box in order to capture and log the caller id data? I don't want to set up a pbx or answering machine or anything like that, I just want to capture the incoming caller id info. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Capturing caller id data...
Is there a way to throw a modem on my gentoo box in order to capture and log the caller id data? I don't want to set up a pbx or answering machine or anything like that, I just want to capture the incoming caller id info. I suspect you could do that by just setting up vgetty, but never letting it answer the phone... not entirely sure, though... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge -uDv --newuse world want a lot of java (aka teach me DEPEND)
Ola' can someone explain what is trying to emerge the two blackdown java vm ? Also strange is that -java* Related stuff: a) The box (~x86) has finished yesterday the following sequence: # emerge -ev world # emerge --sync # emerge -uDv --newuse world # emerge -uDv --newuse world # revdep-rebuild # prelink -afm b) Today it want to emerge some java vm, look at this: (output truncated for readibility) # emerge -uDtv --newuse world --tree implies --pretend... adding --pretend to options. These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] dev-util/subversion-1.1.4 +apache2 -bash-completion +ber [ebuild R ] net-mail/teapop-0.3.8-r1 +ipv6 -java* +ldap +mysql -post [nomerge ] dev-lang/pike-7.6.24 +crypt -debug -doc -fftw +gdbm +gif [ebuild R ] media-libs/pdflib-5.0.4_p1-r1 -java* -perl -python +tcl [ebuild R ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.20-r2 -authdaemond +berkdb +cryp [ebuild U ] net-dns/bind-9.2.5-r2 [9.2.5-r1] +berkdb -bind-mysql -dlz [nomerge ] app-office/koffice-1.3.5-r2 +arts -debug -kdeenablefinal [nomerge ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.0 -alsa +arts -cups -debug -doc -j [ebuild R ] net-dns/libidn-0.5.13 -doc -java* +nls 0 kB [nomerge ] gnome-extra/libgda-1.0.4 -debug -doc -firebird -freetds [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.8.4-r1 -debug -doc -gnutls -hal [ebuild U ] gnome-base/orbit-2.12.2 [2.12.1] -debug -doc +ssl 662 k [nomerge ] dev-db/jxtray-0.5 -doc -firebird -jikes -mssql +mysql -p [nomerge ] dev-java/xerces-2.6.2-r2 -doc -examples -jikes -source [nomerge ] dev-java/xalan-2.6.0-r2 -doc -jikes -source [nomerge ]dev-java/jakarta-regexp-1.3-r2 -doc -jikes -source vv [ebuild N] dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.01-r1 -mozilla 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.01-r2 -doc -mozilla 0 k ^^ [nomerge ] sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4 -debug +nls [nomerge ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3.20050110-r2 (-altivec) -bootstrap [nomerge ]sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.10-r2 [nomerge ] sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19 -build -debug (-selinux) [nomerge ] dev-lang/python-2.3.5 -X +berkdb -bootstrap -build [nomerge ] dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r1 -debug -emacs (-uclibc) [nomerge ]dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4 +berkdb -debug -doc +gdbm [ebuild R ] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2 -bootstrap -doc -java* -no [nomerge ]sys-devel/binutils-2.15.92.0.2-r8 -debug -multislot - [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20050324 [20050223] 35 kB any phothon of light much apreciated. Francesco -- No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it. ~ Charles M. Schulz But sometimes run fast is better ~ Francesco R. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] System time drift problem
Frédéric Grosshans wrote: I'll choose the simpler cronjob solution, thanks. Anyway, isn't that a kernel bug ? How sould I report this ? Well, from googling around, it seems that a few seconds per day of drift between the system clock and hardware clock is considered perfectly normal, and the adjtimex/hwclock/cron solution is really the only option for synchronizing the two, while NTP is the best solution. Indeed the normal case is for both system and hardware clocks to drift away from the real time. You mentioned you were behind a firewall and couldn't use NTP. I am curious, because most networks I have connected to have only disabled NTP access if they provide an internal NTP server. Have you asked the network admins if there is an NTP server available? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware
Ow Mun Heng wrote: Can you validate that in real-life?? Since I see my CPU usage is 80% all the time. Need to know if it's RAM or CPU dependent. Well, that sounds more like a software configuration problem. For me, if the virtual machine is idle, the CPU usage of VMWare is 2-3%. But I have not run Linux inside of VMWare for quite some time, so I have no real tips to offer there. Someone on the VMWare forums might have a better suggestion regarding the high CPU utilization. As for memory, I have 1G total, and currently run XP with 256MB of memory. I occasionally need to start 2 instances of Visual Studio, plus jEdit (nice editor, but uses java, so hugh memory hog), plus some custom software, and so on. This is doable in 256, but the system can take several seconds to switch between tasks or open a new explorer window. With 512M, those delays disappear. (BTW, I don't run with 512 normally, because usually when I'm doing all of that, I also have to have an NT4.0 virtual machine running at the same time.) So I doubt more memory will help with the 80% CPU usage, that is likely another problem. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild error on python
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Chris Bare wrote: I'm not sure what I should do at this point. Do I still need python 2.2.3 at all? can I safely unmerge it? Or should I force python-2.2.3-r6 to be installed? Im no Python expert but since emerge uses Python I would be loathe to remove it without checking the implications. my thoughts exactly. I suppose you could run equery depends python-2.2.3 and see what depends on it. rygel conf.d # equery depends python-2.2.3 [ Searching for packages depending on python-2.2.3... ] Does anyone know if that means it's safe to uninstall? -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fax Server that can email Tif image
Hi - I'm interested in finding out if I can set-up my Gentoo box to replace my fax machine. Can it then be set-up to email me the received faxes automatically on receipt. I travel a lot for work and it would be REALLY useful. Regards, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2.6 kernel and wlan-ng
I recently upgraded my laptop to the 2.6.11 kernel and am trying to get my wifi working again. It worked under 2.4 with the linux-wlan-ng package. I followed the instructions in the bug and built it for 2.6 by turning off the sandbox. It appears to build fine, but here's what I get in /var/log/messages when it tries to load: Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: prism2_pci.o: 0.2.1-pre23 Loaded Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: dev_info is: prism2_pci Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 9 Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:12.0[A] - GSI 9 (level, low) - IRQ 9 Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: A Prism2.5 PCI device found, phymem:0xe8013000, irq:9, mem:0xcf94a000 Apr 18 17:18:37 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: prism2_pci: No devices found, driver not installed. daemon.log says: Apr 18 17:18:38 rygel modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting prism2_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r6cb1/linux-wlan-ng/prism2_pci.ko): No such device and lspci says: :00:12.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) I'm at a loss, it seems to find the hardware, but fail to initialize. Any suggestions? -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: rc-update net.wlan0?
I'm attempting to get wireless up and running. First time on Gentoo. I have used ndiswrapper on FC2 which this machine used to run so I have ESSIDs, mac addresses and keys that are known good. I've emerge the wireless-tools stuff and have an edited /etc/conf.d/wireless file with my values in it. ndiswrapper is modprobed and ready to go. Now I want to start net.wlan0 but I don't have a file in /etc/init.d and nothing shows up in rc-update. I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm trying to do the same thing with a PCMCIA wireless Belkin Card. I 'm just confused about a couple of items. What does ndiswrapper on FC2 mean? Also what wireless tools packages are emerged? Ironically I installed PCMCIA card services, put in the card, edited /etc/conf.d/net to make eth0 go up on DHCP and it sort of works. By that I mean everything runs OK but I notice an error on boot where there is an obvious conflict with eth0. Regards, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
Hi all, I met a problem when I reboot from using eth1(wireless) to eth0, I can't connect to internet, and after I delete one of the default route it works, restart eth0 doesn't work for me. My home network: notebook eth0 -Switch ---Gentoo(Iptables)---cable modem-- Internet | | | eth1-wireless router I don't know how the route table comes out: when I can't connect, I typed route: walnut ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 loopbacklocalhost 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 Is it normal ? These problem also makes my mozilla starts very slow. My question is How to make /etc/init.d/net.eth* clear every thing doesn't use any cache like things, by the way, my eth1 starting script is a soft link to eth0 Thank you! Lingyun -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 08:00:00PM +0200, Jarry wrote: Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Strange how Jarry is quiet about all this... I'm counting votes, and waiting for some final decision to come. I can not contribute to this discussion, because I have absolutely no experience with journaling filesystems at all. That's why I asked... Up to now I'm more confused than before posting my question. Anyway thanks to all who replied. you posted a standard flamewar question. fortunately it hasn't degerated into that. :) look at how much support (paid development and debugging) there are behind things: redhat supports ext3 commercially. suse supports reiserfs commercially. sgi supports xfs commercially. ibm presumably supports jfs commercially. who are the largest linux players of those? redhat and suse. what markets do sgi and ibm target? the large machine data center (read: their fses probably don't get so much testing an a laptop suspend/resume/power loss/non-ecc memory/crash setup). my own experience? i've used all of ext2, ext3, xfs, and reiserfs all on both laptops and servers. currently i'm using reiserfs on my home media server and ext3 on a laptop. my laptop needs a reinstall thanks to dell support. what will i choose? ext3 or reiser on a coin toss. regardless of what you choose, prove any fs to yourself before depending on it. install with it and run a burn-in doing lots of random io with reads and checksum verification later for a few days. pull the plug several times during this and see what happens. any filesystem is only as good as the particular implementation(s) that you choose to let write to your disk. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3B compilation error
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 11:14:40PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:00:17 +0200 Al Bayrouni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status | message. ^^ Try checking bugs.gentoo.org to see if your problem hasn't been solved there already. --lf -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS printing
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:33 +0200, Frank Schafer wrote: I try to setup a network printer attached to a Wondies printserver. What is Wondies printserver? I've recently tired freesco as a print server and it passed with flying colors 5min. setup; printing from linux and windows98. -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax Server that can email Tif image
Hi, Hi - I'm interested in finding out if I can set-up my Gentoo box to replace my fax machine. Can it then be set-up to email me the received faxes automatically on receipt. I travel a lot for work and it would be REALLY useful. at least ghostscript can convert postscript to g3 files, so your chances are good that it works as well in the other direction. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rc-update net.wlan0?
On 4/18/05, Richard Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to get wireless up and running. First time on Gentoo. I have used ndiswrapper on FC2 which this machine used to run so I have ESSIDs, mac addresses and keys that are known good. I've emerge the wireless-tools stuff and have an edited /etc/conf.d/wireless file with my values in it. ndiswrapper is modprobed and ready to go. Now I want to start net.wlan0 but I don't have a file in /etc/init.d and nothing shows up in rc-update. I've been watching this thread with interest as I'm trying to do the same thing with a PCMCIA wireless Belkin Card. I 'm just confused about a couple of items. What does ndiswrapper on FC2 mean? Also what wireless tools packages are emerged? Hi, Sorry for any confusion. This is a box that was running Fedora Core 2 (FC2) taht I converted to running Gentoo. The box had been running for a couple of months using FC2 and ndiswrapper-style wireless was running fine. This was important since it gave me a baseline to work from. I am not 100% sure but I believe that what I emerged on that box was the current stable version of wireless-tools-27 and the ~x86 version of ndiswrapper-1.1. Other than that I copied net.eth0 to net.wlan0 ( and since tested that creating a link as was suggested works fine so I'd suggest that since it will be covered by updates) and edited the /etc/conf.d/wireless file. In the wireless file there were only about 3 lines that I had to set up to get the network working. (ESSID_wlan0, channel_wlan0, key_ESSID) NOTE - It was not immediately obvious to me that where it says ESSID in the wireless file you must replace the ESSID letters with your ESSID. This is cool since it makes talking to multiple ESSID's well documented on the wireless file itself. Ironically I installed PCMCIA card services, put in the card, edited /etc/conf.d/net to make eth0 go up on DHCP and it sort of works. By that I mean everything runs OK but I notice an error on boot where there is an obvious conflict with eth0. I have two files, net.eth0 and net.wlan0, where net.wlan0 is a link. I then run rc-update add net.wlan0 default rc-update del net.eth0 default when I want wireless and reverse the settings when I want wired. That will completely address your boot problem. If I want to change while the system is running then it's /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 stop /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start. Both eth0 and wlan0 are on the same 192.168.10.xxx network so my gateway address doesn't change. Very cool system these guys (and ladies possibly?) came up with. HTH, Mark Regards, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax Server that can email Tif image
you probably want hylafax, its in portage, and I have had it going on a gentoo box. I am yet to complete the project. Also a quick google found this: http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July2002/article249.shtml If you look at the bit about how to process the faxes (the author prints them and saves them in a backup directory) - you can change this to email them to any email address. I would change it to a pdf first, because pdf reading software seems to be more ubiquitous than tiff reading software. ie, you are quite likely to find acrobat reader in some random office/web cafe etc. On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:17:48 +1000 Richard Watson wrote: Hi - I'm interested in finding out if I can set-up my Gentoo box to replace my fax machine. Can it then be set-up to email me the received faxes automatically on receipt. I travel a lot for work and it would be REALLY useful. Regards, Richard -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 kernel and wlan-ng
Chris Bare ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled: I recently upgraded my laptop to the 2.6.11 kernel and am trying to get my wifi working again. It worked under 2.4 with the linux-wlan-ng package. I followed the instructions in the bug and built it for 2.6 by turning off the sandbox. It appears to build fine, but here's what I get in /var/log/messages when it tries to load: Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: prism2_pci.o: 0.2.1-pre23 Loaded Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: dev_info is: prism2_pci Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] enabled at IRQ 9 Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:12.0[A] - GSI 9 (level, low) - IRQ 9 Apr 18 17:18:36 rygel kernel: A Prism2.5 PCI device found, phymem:0xe8013000, irq:9, mem:0xcf94a000 Apr 18 17:18:37 rygel kernel: prism2pci_init: prism2_pci: No devices found, driver not installed. daemon.log says: Apr 18 17:18:38 rygel modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting prism2_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.11-gentoo-r6cb1/linux-wlan-ng/prism2_pci.ko): No such device and lspci says: :00:12.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01) I'm at a loss, it seems to find the hardware, but fail to initialize. Any suggestions? Are any of the orinoco drivers loaded? Cooper. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DRM on a new ck kernel
On 4/18/05, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml stated If you use a 2.4 kernel, make sure the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) is off. The X11-DRM package will provide its own. 2.6 kernel users should enable the Direct Rendering Manager (DRM) as the X11-DRM package currently does not support 2.6 kernels yet. I took that to mean [ M] Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 DRI support) Is that not correct? That depends: when building from CVS, it should be off. I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by building from CVS. I'm running kernels provided by emerge. Is this CVS from kernel.org and hence it shoudl be off, or is this not CVS? Or do you mean DRI CVS? A different thing to try, from the 3D Acceleration Guide: Q: It doesn't work. I don't have rendering, and I can't tell why. A: Try insmod radeon before you start the X server. Also, try building agpgart into the kernel instead of as a module. Did you put radeon into your xorg.conf ? Yes, and it is loaded as is drm: (copied from the first message) lash kernel $ lsmod Module Size Used by radeon 75776 1 Well, that is the kernel module, radeon.ko :), what X needs for glxgears is /usr/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so. Ah, well that's not loaded. Worse (I think) is thatI can find nothing that's trying to load it. It's not in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6, nor is there a dri directory in /etc/modules.d Where is this supposed to be included to get it to load in the Gentoo way? flash mark $ dmesg | grep drm [drm] Initialized drm 1.0.0 20040925 [drm] Initialized radeon 1.14.0 20050125 on minor 0: ATI Technologies Inc RV250 5c61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+] [drm] Loading R200 Microcode If preloading the module doesn't help, and building the agp stuff into the kernel neither, then try building the drm.ko and radeon.ko from CVS, the last one is probably newer. For a better summary: grep RADEON /var/log/Xorg.0.log Benno -- Sorry Benno - It's long, but it ends with 'Direct Rendering enabled'! And yet flash root # glxinfo | grep rendering direct rendering: No flash root # flash root # grep RADEON /var/log/Xorg.0.log (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0xe810 (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0 (**) RADEON(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 16 bits stored in 2 bytes (16 bpp pixmaps) (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp-IOBase is 0x03d0, hwp-PIOOffset is 0x (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 565 (II) RADEON(0): Using 6 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 (II) RADEON(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000 (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C61 (AGP) (ChipID = 0 x5c61) (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xf000 (--) RADEON(0): VideoRAM: 65536 kByte (128 bit DDR SDRAM) (II) RADEON(0): AGP card detected (II) RADEON(0): I2C bus DDC initialized. (II) RADEON(0): Legacy BIOS detected (II) RADEON(0): LVDS port is not in connector table, added in. (II) RADEON(0): Connector0: DDCType-0, DACType-1, TMDSType--1, ConnectorType-1 (II) RADEON(0): Connector1: DDCType-3, DACType-0, TMDSType--1, ConnectorType-2 (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 removed. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 registered at address 0xA0. (II) RADEON(0): I2C device DDC:ddc2 removed. (II) RADEON(0): DDC Type: 3, Detected Type: 0 (II) RADEON(0): (II) RADEON(0): Primary: (II) RADEON(0): Secondary: (II) RADEON(0): PLL parameters: rf=2700 rd=12 min=2 max=35000; xclk=22000 (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to detect secondary monitor, MergedFB/Clone mode disabled (==) RADEON(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (II) RADEON(0): Validating modes on Primary head - (II) RADEON(0): Panel ID string: SEC (II) RADEON(0): Panel Size from BIOS: 1280x800 (II) RADEON(0): BIOS provided dividers will be used. (II) RADEON(0): Total number of valid DDC mode(s) found: 0 (II) RADEON(0): Valid mode using on-chip RMX: 1280x800 (II) RADEON(0): Valid mode using on-chip RMX: 1024x768 (II) RADEON(0): Valid mode using on-chip RMX: 800x600 (II) RADEON(0): Valid mode using on-chip RMX: 640x480 (II) RADEON(0): Total number of valid FP mode(s) found: 4 (--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1280x800 (pitch 1280) (**) RADEON(0): *Mode 1280x800: 71.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.3 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline 1280x800 71.00 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 802 808 82 3 (**) RADEON(0): *Mode 1024x768: 71.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.3 kHz, 59.9 Hz (II) RADEON(0): Modeline 1024x768 71.00 1024 1328 1360 1440 768 802 808 82 3 (**) RADEON(0): *Mode 800x600: 71.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 49.3
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System time drift problem
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 13:33 +0200, Frédéric Grosshans wrote: Le samedi 16 avril 2005 à 02:24 +0200, Antonio Coralles a écrit : gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The sytem time of my computer drifts by roughly 5 min per day, while the hwclock stays at the correct time. Maybe you should look at this: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/124628/match=+clock+fast antonio I've seen it, thanks, but it adresses the problem of a drifting hardware clock. My hardware clock is fine, my problems comes from the system clock. Fred are you sure this doesn't answer your question? It solved my system clock drift (which was about 30 minutes a day, but hw clock was ok). I know adjtime is used to correct inaccurate hwclocks, but it can get stuffed. post your /etc/adjtime and see what it says... HTH, -- Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fax answerphone/voicemail server...
On Apr 19, 2005, at 12:25 am, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: I've been using vgetty - the version in Portage is pretty good, and once I actually sat down to configure it I had it mostly up running over the course of an evening - I think it sounds much more complicated than it is I'm migrating to Asterisk Real Soon Now (tm), but it certainly won't support any of your current hardware - it's more appropriate if you want to do VoIP, probably involving routing all your telephone calls through it. If you have to ask, you probably don't want to use Asterisk yet. Several people have been adament that I should use Asterisk - but I remained rather unconvinced... as all the documents I see surrounding Asterisk are interested in VOIP devices - whereas I want a solution for a more ancient technology. I think you're right to be unconvinced - I'm pretty new to Asterisk, but I'd _love_ to see a justification for using it for your purposes. As I see it, the normal use of Asterisk as an answerphone on a POTS line would involve answering the call on first ring, forwarding it to the VoIP phone for X rings then recording a message only if that line isn't answered. I'm sure you CAN do what you require using Asterisk, but that doesn't mean you _should_. Some scripts to munge vgetty interactions into emailed mp3 files sounds extremely useful (any chance of an emailed tgz - or putting them on an ftp site somewhere?) Thanks for reminding me! I've just posted an updated version to the [m|v]getty mailing list. It's at http://tinyurl.com/caygp I was hesitating on vgetty not particularly because I was worried that I could manage to set up that sort of a system - but rather that I didn't want to divise a solution which wouldn't benefit from ongoing developments and that I'd want to change i a few months. Well, I've sure I've heard statements that the [m|v]getty code is obscure, dated hard to work on, but I have no idea whether that's true or not, as I haven't looked at it myself (and probably wouldn't be qualified to do so). It IS, however, well-maintained supported by the mgetty author - if you post to the mailing list he will likely reply himself. As far as forwarding the voice messages to email are concerned, the standard function of vgetty is to save the voice message into its spool/incoming directory; if the admin has specified a script to run, that will be called with the full path of the voice file caller ID as parameters, so the script can do whatever you want with the recorded messages. I pass the recorded .pvf (portable voice file) down the longest pipe possible in order to convert it to Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wacky Mouse...
On 4/18/05, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 18 April 2005 02:33 am, Andreas Fredriksson wrote: Hi, while I don't know what's causing your specific problem, this sounds a lot like the behavior you would see back in the day when you set the mouse protocol to PS/2 when the mouse device was really a serial mouse, or vice versa. It's not. Further review of emerged files shows gcc, qt and glib. I doubt one of them is causing the problem, but they seem the most likely candidates anyway. Did you update the kernel from a 2.6.10 to a 2.6.11 version? That's got a few known bugs with synaptics/alps touchpads. Try passing psmouse.proto=exps to your kernel on boot and see if that doesn't fix it. Otherwise, posting the relevant portions of your kernel config/xorg.conf would be helpful in debugging. Erik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
I beg to differ, as I posted previously I gave up on ext2/3 because of lost data - not everyone agrees that ext2/3 is the best fallback! Better performance with reiserfs3 as well as peace of mind goes against ext2/3 for me. As I said - YMMV - I have looked at my usage, number and type of failures for both systems some time back and reiserfs3 came up tops for me. You need to do the same: run both systems and see what is best for your environment. I will move to reiserfs4 when there is some consensus it it is getting stable as it has some nice features I like, as well as the performance potential. Unfortunately, asking which FS is best is one of those questions that falls into the same class as how long is a piece of string. Do the sums yourself as everybody's experience is different. BillK On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 15:19 -0300, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Sometimes that happens, too much information. If I had to make a decision, in your case, I'd use ext3. Everyone said it was stable, reliable. All the others show some cases of failure. Maybe you can put two test volume with reiserfs and xfs with data that is not really significant and benchmark, test for data corruption, etc. You can't go wrong with ext3. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
On Monday 18 April 2005 01:34 pm, A. R. wrote: Huh? I have never ever had any power failures with my laptops, if the thing is connected to the power outlet and this one fails, well, the battery at least gives me a chance to gracefully shut down the computer. One of the methods I used to test ext3 was just that... I removed the battery, plugged the laptop into a local outlet... booted it and started a number of various processes... when things looked real good and busy, I pulled the plug... BAM! Dead Plug it back into the outlet and reboot... The filesystem check would take like a second or two and It's back in business. I have yet to get a corrupted ext3 partition, even when doing that non-sense. I tried that exactly once with xfs... Upon boot up it was hosed beyond recovery... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:26pm up 10 days, 4:33, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild error on python
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 18:14 -0400, Chris Bare wrote: On Sun, 17 Apr 2005, Chris Bare wrote: I'm not sure what I should do at this point. Do I still need python 2.2.3 at all? can I safely unmerge it? Or should I force python-2.2.3-r6 to be installed? Im no Python expert but since emerge uses Python I would be loathe to remove it without checking the implications. my thoughts exactly. I suppose you could run equery depends python-2.2.3 and see what depends on it. rygel conf.d # equery depends python-2.2.3 [ Searching for packages depending on python-2.2.3... ] Does anyone know if that means it's safe to uninstall? I recently removed it from a machine that I administer with no ill-effects. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wacky Mouse... (fwd)
-- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:39:10 -0400 From: David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wacky Mouse... On Monday 18 April 2005 08:34 pm, Erik Osterholm wrote: On 4/18/05, David Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 18 April 2005 02:33 am, Andreas Fredriksson wrote: Hi, while I don't know what's causing your specific problem, this sounds a lot like the behavior you would see back in the day when you set the mouse protocol to PS/2 when the mouse device was really a serial mouse, or vice versa. It's not. Further review of emerged files shows gcc, qt and glib. I doubt one of them is causing the problem, but they seem the most likely candidates anyway. Did you update the kernel from a 2.6.10 to a 2.6.11 version? No. I'm running 2.6.7, and have been for some time. Otherwise, posting the relevant portions of your kernel config/xorg.conf would be helpful in debugging. from the kernel .config. CONFIG_INPUT=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_PSAUX=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1920 CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=1200 CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV=y CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSE=y from xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Driver mouse Identifier Mouse[1] Option ButtonNumber 2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons on Option Name AutoDetection Option Protocol PS/2 Option Vendor Sysp Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section ServerLayout InputDevice Mouse[1] CorePointer ... EndSection All of the above was transcribed, as copy/paste is a bit hard without a functional mouse. I also have variation that uses the synaptics driver instead of the default ps/2 emulation, but I'll settle for either one working to start with. Thanks David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Admin system documentation
John J. Foster wrote: Good afternoon, I had intended on starting my conversion from Suse 9.1 to Gentoo over the weekend, but the weather turned out to be way to nice to remain indoors. But in my planning stages I realized I have a bit of a longer learning curve than I initially anticipated. So, I'm going to remedy this by starting off with: Question #1 What do the professional (and amateur) admins among you consider to be essential system documentation in the event of a disaster. I am fairly well versed on the requirements of a M$ based system and network, but have only been dabbling in Linux for a couple years. Backups I know, but what is considered a fairly necessary _paper_ trail in the event that the unexpected happens, and a total rebuild is necessary in the shortest time possible. Much of it depends on the size of your network and what you're doing. I run mostly clusters of the same box. So I don't back up the OS because I can lose one without causing trouble and can easily add a new server in the case of a prolonged outage. I do tar.gz the data and relevant config files. You'll want to make a judgment call on how much infrastructure you think you need to dedicate to backups. However in the event that I need to add a new server I do have a few build docs and scripts. It's really the little stuff that is a pain in the ass. I keep track of it in a Wiki, which seems less annoying than they were a few years ago, but whatever works for you. Mine has stuff like this: New Server build /etc/resolv.conf Use the linked file. Never change the domain search order or old broken stuff that the wed devs idiots won't grep out will break. The rotate stuff distributes the lookups so we don't overload ns1. The timeouts cause lookups to timeout faster and move on the next server in case we lose a name server. /etc/rc.conf Change default editor to vim Name Servers only Add symlinks to deal with Gentoo bind/named nonsense ln -sf /etc/bind/named.conf /etc/named.conf Make the Redhat admins happy ln -sf /var/bind /var/named And then ask, why does Gentoo use named in /var/run/ instead bind? and so on. I would however seriously look at the Catalyst tool for building stage3 or what people are calling stage4 builds. I haven't gotten it working exactly right, but the idea would be to include most of the little nonsense in a stage3 and then use that as my base to generate stage4 build of particular kinds of server. So I'd be able to lay down a new name server, web server, mail server, db server etc in under an hour. Then import or rsync any data over and you're set. A few people I know are using Feather Linux to try to ghost partitions and then lay them down on new machines. Haven't heard how well that's working, but there was no reason why it would be an issue. The roundabout point on this is a Linux environment can get away from you if you let it. Use the same USE variables on everything and document the reason why you use those. And don't forget to update the docs and machines if that ever changes or you'll be fighting for three hours on a Sunday when something isn't quite kosher. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
The one EXTREME test that I witnessed was during a Panasonic ToughBook demo. The presenter gave a 15 minute speech, pool side at a hotel, about how good and tough the new Panasonic ToughBook really was. All during the speech, he would slide a ToughBook off a desk onto the concrete apron at the hotel pool. The laptop took, probably, 10 or 15 trips to the concrete during the speech. Most of us in the crowd just about laughed our asses off... No way would this thing survive. At the end of the speech, he took the laptop off the floor for the last time, walked over to the pool and gave it a good washing and rinse in the pool. After the splash, he opened it up and... it was runnig just fine... no worse fort wear That was something I'll never forget seeing... On Monday 18 April 2005 10:02 pm, Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: You know, you just got me an idea for a website: Extreme Benchmarks ;) We'll, cut the power, set it on fire, throw it out the window and see which machines recover and perform best under the circumstances. lol ;) P.S.: Just joking, but it could be a good TV show As for the real topic of this thread, seems like no real conclusion. Everyone has their loved FS and this discussion got nowhere really fast. So, my final sugestion on this, get one of those RPG dices, with 20 faces, make a table with all the 20 major FSes and whatever the dice lands on, install it. I think you're better off that way. As a professor of mine used to say, make a decision, it is the right or the wrong decision, only time will tell. Not making a decision that is the real big mistake. So pick any fs, and learn it is problems (googleit) and be prepared for them. That is the best you can do. 2005/4/19, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 18 April 2005 01:34 pm, A. R. wrote: Huh? I have never ever had any power failures with my laptops, if the thing is connected to the power outlet and this one fails, well, the battery at least gives me a chance to gracefully shut down the computer. One of the methods I used to test ext3 was just that... I removed the battery, plugged the laptop into a local outlet... booted it and started a number of various processes... when things looked real good and busy, I pulled the plug... BAM! Dead Plug it back into the outlet and reboot... The filesystem check would take like a second or two and It's back in business. I have yet to get a corrupted ext3 partition, even when doing that non-sense. I tried that exactly once with xfs... Upon boot up it was hosed beyond recovery... -- * * Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:26pm up 10 days, 4:33, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 10:59pm up 10 days, 6:06, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 23:34 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote: Can you validate that in real-life?? Since I see my CPU usage is 80% all the time. Need to know if it's RAM or CPU dependent. Well, that sounds more like a software configuration problem. For me, if the virtual machine is idle, the CPU usage of VMWare is 2-3%. But I have not run Linux inside of VMWare for quite some time, so I have no real tips to offer there. Someone on the VMWare forums might have a better suggestion regarding the high CPU utilization. No.. It's just high when there's disk accesses. eg: copying a directory of files or untaring the new portage snapshot/stages etc. As for memory, I have 1G total, and currently run XP with 256MB of memory. I occasionally need to start 2 instances of Visual Studio, plus jEdit (nice editor, but uses java, so hugh memory hog), plus some custom software, and so on. This is doable in 256, but the system can take several seconds to switch between tasks or open a new explorer window. With 512M, those delays disappear. (BTW, I don't run with 512 normally, because usually when I'm doing all of that, I also have to have an NT4.0 virtual machine running at the same time.) Cool. Now that you've taken that out the picture, I think I will get that 1 stick of 1GB RAM when I have enough dough. Time to save up then.. :-) -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:32:12 up 20:07, 5 users, load average: 0.25, 0.34, 0.38 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking Disks under Vmware
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 13:03 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:21:25 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: I read about vdiskmanager, but it does not offer that capability. And Vmware _does_ have this capability if you're running Windows as the Guest OS in Vmware. Have you installed vmware-tools into the guest OS? Once you do this, and run them, you can shrink disk files, provided you did not create them as flat files. Er.. No I've not done that yet as Based on what I read, it's not possible. VMware-Tools will do that for Windows Guest OS though and I've tried it and it works great. Linux Guest OS is something else and seems like it's only for SVGA graphhics IIRC. But Yeah.. I'll install it and let you know. PS: In the end, all I did was fire up the 2.3G Gentoo under livecd Prepared another instance of Gentoo under LiveCD as another VM, mounted /mnt/gentoo and did tar -cf /mnt/gentoo . | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -xzvf - -C /mnt/gentoo It went well. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:33:38 up 20:09, 5 users, load average: 2.08, 0.74, 0.51 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 15:33 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: although you say you are using only eth0 OR eth1, it looks like you are using both, even when the LAN connection is not plugged in. when on wireless try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop Can you also look at your /etc/conf.d/net file and determine if you've specified a default Gateway? You might need to omit that and it'll work. Since DHCP will put the default GW automatically it isn't needed unless you're on static IP. and see if that fixes it. If that is the problem we should then look for a more permanent solution. On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:50 + Lingyun Yang wrote: Hi all, I met a problem when I reboot from using eth1(wireless) to eth0, I can't connect to internet, and after I delete one of the default route it works, restart eth0 doesn't work for me. My home network: notebook eth0 -Switch ---Gentoo(Iptables)---cable modem-- Internet | | | eth1-wireless router I don't know how the route table comes out: when I can't connect, I typed route: walnut ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 loopbacklocalhost 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 Is it normal ? These problem also makes my mozilla starts very slow. My question is How to make /etc/init.d/net.eth* clear every thing doesn't use any cache like things, by the way, my eth1 starting script is a soft link to eth0 Thank you! Lingyun -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:56:57 up 20:32, 4 users, load average: 0.37, 0.64, 0.57 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't create new menu item in gnome
On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 22:23 -0500, Brian Truter wrote: On 4/18/05, Patrick Marquetecken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each time i want to add a item to the gnome menu it won't show up, not even after a logout or reboot? Its just gtkPod to multimedia. Im pretty sure editing the gnome menu is still a no-go. I dont think there is an easy way to do it, and no tools available to manipulate the menu either. I really am confused as to why the Gnome developers dont address this issue, or disreguard it as trivial, as they seem to. This is from my Redhat 9 Days. Not sure if it will work. Menu-editing in RedHat 9 * To enable menu editing per user config (via nautilus), you need to open a terminal and do the following: su - give root password cd /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules cp default-modules.conf default-modules.conf-no-menu-editing cp default-modules.conf.with-menu-editing default-modules.conf For any user you want to have the right to edit their menu, you also need to do this as the user: cd ~/.gnome2/vfolders cp /etc/X11/desktop-menus/applications.menu applications.vfolder-info * When gnome-panel is restarted (via logout/login or kill) the user will be able to see the changes they have made to their menu. If anyone HAS found a way, and I am mistaken in my assumptions here, please share the info -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:58:18 up 20:33, 4 users, load average: 0.48, 0.59, 0.55 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
On 4/19/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although you say you are using only eth0 OR eth1, it looks like you are using both, even when the LAN connection is not plugged in. when on wireless try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop and see if that fixes it. ERROR: net.eth1 has not yet been started. I didn't start net.eth0, neither my rc.local or runlevel If that is the problem we should then look for a more permanent solution. On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:50 + Lingyun Yang wrote: Hi all, I met a problem when I reboot from using eth1(wireless) to eth0, I can't connect to internet, and after I delete one of the default route it works, restart eth0 doesn't work for me. My home network: notebook eth0 -Switch ---Gentoo(Iptables)---cable modem-- Internet | | | eth1-wireless router I don't know how the route table comes out: when I can't connect, I typed route: walnut ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 loopbacklocalhost 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 Is it normal ? These problem also makes my mozilla starts very slow. My question is How to make /etc/init.d/net.eth* clear every thing doesn't use any cache like things, by the way, my eth1 starting script is a soft link to eth0 Thank you! Lingyun -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
On 4/19/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 15:33 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: although you say you are using only eth0 OR eth1, it looks like you are using both, even when the LAN connection is not plugged in. when on wireless try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop Can you also look at your /etc/conf.d/net file and determine if you've specified a default Gateway? You might need to omit that and it'll work. Since DHCP will put the default GW automatically it isn't needed unless you're on static IP. I didn't change anything about net.eth1 except net.eth1 is a soft link to net.eth0 and if I type ifconfig, I would see both eth0 and eth1 are on cat /etc/conf.d/net # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.* # scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration, # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!). dhcpcd_eth0=-t 5 and see if that fixes it. If that is the problem we should then look for a more permanent solution. On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 22:20:50 + Lingyun Yang wrote: Hi all, I met a problem when I reboot from using eth1(wireless) to eth0, I can't connect to internet, and after I delete one of the default route it works, restart eth0 doesn't work for me. My home network: notebook eth0 -Switch ---Gentoo(Iptables)---cable modem-- Internet | | | eth1-wireless router I don't know how the route table comes out: when I can't connect, I typed route: walnut ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth1 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 loopbacklocalhost 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 default 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 Is it normal ? These problem also makes my mozilla starts very slow. My question is How to make /etc/init.d/net.eth* clear every thing doesn't use any cache like things, by the way, my eth1 starting script is a soft link to eth0 Thank you! Lingyun -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout Barrister Solicitor Christchurch http://www.rout.co.nz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 11:56:57 up 20:32, 4 users, load average: 0.37, 0.64, 0.57 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
heh ! So far I remember his April joke ;) Anyway I`ll stay with reiserfs till first data loss .. Real men make backups On 4/18/05, Bastian Balthazar Bux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel wrote: Since I put Gentoo on my workstation (2 years ago ) ,never had segfaults with reiser3fs ;) I prefer ***CENSURED*** for my /usr/portage , reiserfs for my /usr,/var,/boot,/home and XFS for my isos and musicssshhh don't ever mind at that file system if ciaranm is around ;) --No problem is so formidable that you can't walk away from it.~ Charles M. SchulzBut sometimes run fast is better~ Francesco R.--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: which FS (ext3,reiserfs,xfs,jfs)?
Jerry McBride wrote: One of the methods I used to test ext3 was just that... I removed the battery, plugged the laptop into a local outlet... booted it and started a number of various processes... when things looked real good and busy, I pulled the plug... BAM! Dead Plug it back into the outlet and reboot... The filesystem check would take like a second or two and It's back in business. Jerry, Well, that is certainly a tough test of a journaled filesystem! But I'm not convinced that your conclusion that XFS is useless for laptops is a valid one. You _could_ reasonably conclude that ext3 handles complete power failure better than XFS from this test, but a complete power failure on a laptop is trivially easy to avoid...just don't remove the battery! Heck, one of the rubber feet on the bottom of my laptop is attached to the battery, so trying to use it without a battery makes it really wobbly and uncomfortable. Really, how many laptop users would even think to use their laptop without the battery?? In every case, leaving the battery in is a better decision, because of the automatic UPS feature. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 04:26 +, Lingyun Yang wrote: On 4/19/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although you say you are using only eth0 OR eth1, it looks like you are using both, even when the LAN connection is not plugged in. when on wireless try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop and see if that fixes it. ERROR: net.eth1 has not yet been started. I didn't start net.eth0, neither my rc.local or runlevel /etc/init.d/net.eth0 zap -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:24:54 up 22:00, 4 users, load average: 0.09, 0.27, 0.23 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] route problem when reboot from eth1 to eth1
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 04:28 +, Lingyun Yang wrote: On 4/19/05, Ow Mun Heng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 15:33 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: although you say you are using only eth0 OR eth1, it looks like you are using both, even when the LAN connection is not plugged in. when on wireless try /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop Can you also look at your /etc/conf.d/net file and determine if you've specified a default Gateway? You might need to omit that and it'll work. Since DHCP will put the default GW automatically it isn't needed unless you're on static IP. I didn't change anything about net.eth1 except net.eth1 is a soft link to net.eth0 and if I type ifconfig, I would see both eth0 and eth1 are on That's the default. However, you can verify if they have an IP. bets are that eth0 does not have an IP cat /etc/conf.d/net # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.* # scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration, # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!). dhcpcd_eth0=-t 5 You're sure of this?? BTW, did you try rebooting the machine and did it _still_ have these sort of problems? I reckon you already tried that. If this is the real case, there's still a workaround, a hack though. Write a small shell script and delete the routes before you up the wireless. -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 13:25:24 up 22:00, 4 users, load average: 0.24, 0.29, 0.24 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
