Re: [gentoo-user] keeping source

2005-05-21 Thread Nick Rout
the source tarball is kept in /usr/portage/distfiles (in its tarred
release format). You can study the raw (as in unpatched ) source there
by untarring the source tarball.



as others have said, if you want to study the source with whatever
patches the ebuild has applied, use FEATURES=keepwork

On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 17:38 -0700, cfk wrote:
 Pardon the slightly naive question.
 
 I would like to study the c and cpp source on the packages I am emerging. I 
 *think* they are removed after compilation. I say I *think* as I was looking 
 in /var/tmp/portage and /usr/portage and didnt find them.
 
 How do I go about keeping the source for later reference of the various 
 packages that I emerge with gentoo.
 
 Charles
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 13:11 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 I was under the impression that the iso filesystem is
 read only.  Of course, you could mount the iso on a
 loop and create a new iso from those files.

no you cannot, as it is read only, so once you have mounted it it is
still readonly.

You can however then copy it to a writable file system, make the
amendments and mkisofs it back to a new iso.



 
 If I create an iso with mkisofs -udf then I am able to
 mount -t udf -o loop,rw but there is no extra space on
 the filesystem to add files.  I use mkudffs from the
 udftools package when I need a writable udf
 filesystem.
 
 
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  You can mount the iso on a loop device and
  manipuilate it there.
  
   
   From: Sad Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: 2005/05/20 Fri PM 04:01:59 EDT
   To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
   Subject: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso
  image
   
   Does anyone know of a linux based prog to add
  files to an iso image?
   There are windows based ones but thats a route I'd
  rather not go down.
   
   Thanks in advance
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Re: [?? Probable Spam] [gentoo-user] : [gentoo-user] how to activate the network

2005-05-21 Thread Rumen Yotov
jerry wrote:

I am a newbie, and so simply generate the kernel with the command genkernel
all without any modification of the .config file.

Maybe I should compile the driver into the kernel, but which option
corresponds to my eth0 device? I am confused.

Thank you.

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: Re: [gentoo-user] how to activate the network

jerry wrote:

  

Hi, all

Its my first time to setup a gentoo system on my pc. I use genkernel
all to build the kernel, but failed to bring up the eth0 device when
rebooting.

Despite I ran modprobe e100, the ifconfig eth0  reports no such
device found.

Then what should I do to setup my eth0 device?

BTW, following is the output of dmesg|grep e100:

Intel(r) PRO/100 Network Driver 3.3.6-k2-NAPI

Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Intel corporation

Thank you.



Hi,
Check if e100 is compiled as module or is build-in (the kernel).
Run lsmod as root to see available modules and then to load modprobe
e100.
Have you customized your kernel-config or just used the default one
(genkernel).
HTH. Rumen



  

Hi,
In the beginning suggest not to top-post when replying to a message
(unofficial policy here).
Never done that (using generic config), i always config my own kernel
and genkernel options (when using it ;)
Running genkernel --menuconfig --install --udev --bootsplash all, but
you may choose less options, just leave '--menuconfig --install all' for
the config,compile,install part. Or just manually config/build your
kernel (in the docs).
The initial config file is taken from
/usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-config-2.6 and the used/resulting (at
the end) config in /etc/kernels/ dir.
Think that netcard config is somewhere under Networking options,... -
don't be afraid, to get more out of your box you'll have to do some
changes yourself, take your time read the help check the options etc.
HTH. Rumen



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[gentoo-user] : [?? Probable Spam] [gentoo-user] : [gentoo-user] how to activate the network

2005-05-21 Thread jerry


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: 2005521 14:21
: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
: Re: [?? Probable Spam] [gentoo-user] : [gentoo-user] how to
activate the network

jerry wrote:

I am a newbie, and so simply generate the kernel with the command
genkernel
all without any modification of the .config file.

Maybe I should compile the driver into the kernel, but which option
corresponds to my eth0 device? I am confused.

Thank you.

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: 2005521 12:38
: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
: Re: [gentoo-user] how to activate the network

jerry wrote:

  

Hi, all

Its my first time to setup a gentoo system on my pc. I use genkernel
all to build the kernel, but failed to bring up the eth0 device when
rebooting.

Despite I ran modprobe e100, the ifconfig eth0  reports no such
device found.

Then what should I do to setup my eth0 device?

BTW, following is the output of dmesg|grep e100:

Intel(r) PRO/100 Network Driver 3.3.6-k2-NAPI

Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Intel corporation

Thank you.



Hi,
Check if e100 is compiled as module or is build-in (the kernel).
Run lsmod as root to see available modules and then to load modprobe
e100.
Have you customized your kernel-config or just used the default one
(genkernel).
HTH. Rumen



  

Hi,
In the beginning suggest not to top-post when replying to a message
(unofficial policy here).
Never done that (using generic config), i always config my own kernel
and genkernel options (when using it ;)
Running genkernel --menuconfig --install --udev --bootsplash all, but
you may choose less options, just leave '--menuconfig --install all' for
the config,compile,install part. Or just manually config/build your
kernel (in the docs).
The initial config file is taken from
/usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-config-2.6 and the used/resulting (at
the end) config in /etc/kernels/ dir.
Think that netcard config is somewhere under Networking options,... -
don't be afraid, to get more out of your box you'll have to do some
changes yourself, take your time read the help check the options etc.
HTH. Rumen


Thank you for your advice.
So far I've decided to compile the kernel manually and have tried many of
those options but in vain.

BTW, following is the output of dmesg|grep e100:

Intel(r) PRO/100 Network Driver 3.3.6-k2-NAPI

Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Intel corporation

Does information from these lines not imply the type of my net-card?
What else should I do then?
Thank you.


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[gentoo-user] SOLVED-- Re: how to boot from floppy and install gentoo

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
Finally I installed gentoo on my laptop IBM ThinkPad X240, which has
not internal CD-ROM drive and has external FD drive (not usb one).
I used 2 floppy distros hal91 and toms.
Why I used 2 distros:
1) hal91 supports bzunzip2 for bunzipping stage and portage files
2) hal91 supports '-p' option which I used for 'tar -xvpf stage3...'
3) toms distro used for creating ext3 fs for root by 'mke2fs -j'.
Though hal91 also has mke2fs command '-j' option didn't work for me.
4) at /dev/hda1 I had win98 partition, so I put there stage3, portage
and distiles of gentoo 2005.0
5) after chroot I couldn't use env-update. I could use this command
after 'source /etc/profile'
6) the rest I followed as in installation hanbook.

That's all.

Thanks to everybody for helping me.

askar

On 5/15/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have thinkpad laptop 240X.
 I have Windows98 and Suse installed on it.
 I have a external floppy drive (not usb) and external usb CD-ROM drive.
 I installed Suse first booting from floppy and when system booted I
 was able continue installing Suse with CD-ROM.
 I want to install gentoo above suse.
 But I think Suse install and Gentoo install way are different, if i
 will begin installing from floppy.
 Could anybody advice me where I can find the information about this
 way of installing gentoo (i.e. boot from floppy and the continue with
 the Live CD)?
 
 thanks.
 askar


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[gentoo-user] driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
I want to enable/install driver in the kernel for the cardbus bridge
for Texas Instruments PCI1211 for my laptop.
In the kernel I don't see its driver.
I use gentoo 2005.0.

askar

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamic DNS

2005-05-21 Thread Felix Tiede
Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 I want to use dhcp on my home network to assign IP addresses which means
 I'll need a dynamic DNS.  I know I can go to dyndns.org and set up
 something with them but can I setup my own name server (BIND or
 whatever) and some program that will work with that to keep the DNS
 updated?

Yes, you can. Especially ISC-BIND with ISC-DHCP can do this.
I've tried it once, but it messed up my zone-files in bind so I decided to
use the simple way: Assign addresses based on the clients' MAC-address via
DHCP and keep static entries in my zones.

I do not know which of both packages has the more complete description for
DDNS (as dhcp names it), but both of them have documentation for this scenario.

AFAIK there's one caveat: Normally bind uses authentication between rndc
(the commandline tool to control bind's operation) and the daemon, it's not
that simple to keep this up with DHCP. Maybe this has changed in younger
versions.

HTH, regards
Felix

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[gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
In the kernel I enables option for 'CardBus yenta-compatible' - this
seems the one I was looking for. After recompilation the kernel I
rebooted the system.
3 lamps of the PCMCIA card was on: 1) Power 2) Act and 2) Link
The pcmcia card I use is Planex ENW-3503-TX. This is the 10Base-T card.
The cardbus seems working - lights of power and act are on. When I
connect LAN cable the light for Link also switches on.
In /etc/conf.d/net I set IP address for eth0. 
When I did # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start, it complains 'no such device
...unknown interface'. I think the driver need to be installed. In the
kernel settings I don't see the driver for Planex ENW-3503-TX.
Could anybody help me?


askar

On 5/21/05, askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to enable/install driver in the kernel for the cardbus bridge
 for Texas Instruments PCI1211 for my laptop.
 In the kernel I don't see its driver.
 I use gentoo 2005.0.
 
 askar


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Re: [gentoo-user] : [?? Probable Spam] [gentoo-user] : [gentoo-user] how to activate the network

2005-05-21 Thread Rumen Yotov
jerry wrote:
...SKIP...

Despite I ran modprobe e100, the ifconfig eth0  reports no such
device found.

Then what should I do to setup my eth0 device?

BTW, following is the output of dmesg|grep e100:

Intel(r) PRO/100 Network Driver 3.3.6-k2-NAPI

Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Intel corporation

Thank you.
  

...
Thank you for your advice.
So far I've decided to compile the kernel manually and have tried many of
those options but in vain.

  

BTW, following is the output of dmesg|grep e100:

Intel(r) PRO/100 Network Driver 3.3.6-k2-NAPI

Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Intel corporation
  


Does information from these lines not imply the type of my net-card?
What else should I do then?
Thank you.


  

Hi,
You can get info about your net-card from your mobo's specs or easier
running lspci or lshw commands as root in a terminal (lshw is a
separate package, and lspci is part of pciutils package).
Unless you know your net-card brand/model you can't config/use exept by
chance.
Use your current system or boot from a Live-CD (install CD or Knoppix,
other) and run: lspci.
Then (for e100) in your kernel-config go to:
-Device Drivers --Networking support ---Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit)
 Inter (R) PRO/100+ support.
Make sure it's ON [*] (or [M] for a module).
HTH. Rumen



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo User Groups

2005-05-21 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 21:33 -0700, Jonathan Nichols wrote:
 The thread about discrimination is a good one.. it made me think about 
 local user groups, as people have mentioned install-fests.
 
 I did Google around for a bit but didn't really find a whole lot. I'm 
 right here in the Silicon Valley and figured that there would be at 
 least *one* floating around. :)
 
 If there *isn't* one, would there be enough interest in creating one?
 
 

I am nowhere near silicon valley, but if you want tips on running a
gentoo installfest, let me know :-) (survivor of three, and still
learning)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

2005-05-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 21 May 2005 17:36, askar ... wrote:
 In the kernel I enables option for 'CardBus yenta-compatible' - this
 seems the one I was looking for. After recompilation the kernel I
 rebooted the system.
 3 lamps of the PCMCIA card was on: 1) Power 2) Act and 2) Link
 The pcmcia card I use is Planex ENW-3503-TX. This is the 10Base-T card.
 The cardbus seems working - lights of power and act are on. When I
 connect LAN cable the light for Link also switches on.
 In /etc/conf.d/net I set IP address for eth0.
 When I did # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start, it complains 'no such device
 ...unknown interface'. I think the driver need to be installed. In the
 kernel settings I don't see the driver for Planex ENW-3503-TX.
 Could anybody help me?

Google can. ;)

Searching for Planex ENW-3503-TX linux gave a list of card types and what 
chipsets they contain on the first result. Your card has a Winbond W89C926. 
I then searched for Winbond W89C926 linux and got mostly similar results to 
the first search, but there was one that indicates that the card is NE2000 
compatible. One of the PCMCIA network drivers in the kernel is NE2000 
compatible PCMCIA support, so I'd suggest you give that one a try.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

2005-05-21 Thread Nick Rout
delete the contents of /etc/adjtime

this file contains data that the kernel uses to keep track of time, it
compensates for a slow/fast system clock tick. 


If this file gets stuffed up then the kernel over compensates for what
it perceives to be a way out clock, and all hell breaks loose.

So try clearing it out and see if that works better (it will be
re-written with something sensible sooner or later)


If On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 07:55 -0700, Rob wrote:
 rob3 wrote:
  David D. Rea wrote:
  
  
 On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said:
  
 
 
 I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo
 problem, or what.   I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or
 has it now.
 
 I can't keep the clock on the right time.   This Dell 8600 Laptop has a
 brand new mobo in it.  So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead
 already.  Windoze shows the same behavior.
 
 Thanks,  Rob

 
 
 Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more
 or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock
 to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and
 Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each
 other??
 
 Dave
 
  
 
  
  I don't know.  Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see
  in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\
  
  Thanks!  Rob
 Hi !!
 
 No, the hour changes and the minutes change.
 
 Rob.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Bill Roberts
On 20:07 Fri 20 May , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 Wouldn't that be nice!  Oh, well till then we copy, modify, make new iso.
 
 On Fri, 20 May 2005, Zac Medico wrote:
 
 Nice bluff though.  I was hoping sombody added rw
 support to the iso9660 driver ;-)
 
 --- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Okay - it was a good idea in theory.  However, he
 can mount it, copy it
 somewhere, modify it and then create an iso of the
 changes.
 
 On Fri, 20 May 2005, Ryan wrote:
 
 Sad Jack wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 You can mount the iso on a loop device and
 manipuilate it there.
 

I did a little googling and found the following tutorial:

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue87/sunil.html

Looks like a bit of work, but it is all laid out nicely.

Bill Roberts


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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 16:34 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 Nice bluff though.  I was hoping sombody added rw
 support to the iso9660 driver ;-)

iso9660 is a read only file system, so that seems unlikely!



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[gentoo-user] Bootsplash and Kernel 2.6.11-r3

2005-05-21 Thread smoke3
Hi all,
I need some support to get bootsplash on my gentoo start-up!
I tried following gentoo-HOWTO, but I'm probably missing something
important: that is I did patch and recompile my kernel, but when I
looked for

Bootsplash configuration  ---
[*] Bootup splash screen

I didn't manage to find it on my config menu!!!
What's wrong with this?
I think this option is quite significant to get bootsplash appears, isn't it?

Thanks for any info!!!

S.G
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Re: [gentoo-user] fallback dns servers

2005-05-21 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 17 mai à 15:01:49 Jean Magnan de Bornier [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit 
notamment:

 Hello all,
 I am setting up a way to have my laptop automatically get a correct ip
 address. 

 When I am at my office, I have a fixed ip; at home (on a
 private network) I use dhcp.
 I know I can use quickswitch for that but I want something really
 automatic, so after some search I ended up with this in my
 /etc/conf.d/net:

 iface_eth0=dhcp
 ifconfig_eth0=( dhcp 194.199.136.151 )
 dhcpcd_eth0=-t 30
 ifconfig_fallback_eth0=( 194.199.136.151 netmask 255.255.255.0  )
 ipaddr_fallback_eth0=( 194.199.136.151  gw 194.199.136.250 )

 This works great, but as dhcp overwrites /etc/resolv.conf, when I go back
 to my fixed ip my dns servers are not the ones I need (still the ones I
 use at home). My dns names for office are set in /etc/resolv.conf.fac. Is
 there a way to have the machine know which dns servers to use?

Well, as my question is not answered yet, let me reformulate what I need
in a shorter way:

I want to execute ln -sf /etc/resolv.conf.fac /etc/resolv.conf *before*
/etc/init.d/net.eth0, so that if I am at the fac (my office) location I
have these dns set up, but if I am home with dhcp the resolv.conf
file will be overwritten. 
Should I add a script in /etc/init.d for that, or is there something simpler?
cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamic DNS

2005-05-21 Thread Rob

Rob wrote:

Brett I. Holcomb wrote:


A static dynamic DNS G.  Thanks.  I'll look at that.

On Fri, 20 May 2005, Michael Semcheski wrote:


Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

I want to use dhcp on my home network to assign IP addresses which 
means

I'll need a dynamic DNS.  I know I can go to dyndns.org and set up
something with them but can I setup my own name server (BIND or
whatever) and some program that will work with that to keep the DNS
updated?




What may be the easiest thing to do is look at man 5 dhcpd.conf.

You can have dhcpd assign each computer the same IP address everytime,
based on its IP address.  Not quite as slick as dynamic DNS, but very
effective, and with the added benefit that your DNS won't get stale if
the DHCP address decides to change.

Mike



My LinkSys Router has a DynDNS update service already in the software. 
Cool.



Robl

I've never had any problems with DynDns.org.  Maybe your router is 
misconfigured or needs firmware update.


Rob.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

2005-05-21 Thread Rob

Nick Rout wrote:


delete the contents of /etc/adjtime

this file contains data that the kernel uses to keep track of time, it
compensates for a slow/fast system clock tick. 



If this file gets stuffed up then the kernel over compensates for what
it perceives to be a way out clock, and all hell breaks loose.

So try clearing it out and see if that works better (it will be
re-written with something sensible sooner or later)


If On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 07:55 -0700, Rob wrote:


rob3 wrote:


David D. Rea wrote:




On Thu, May 19, 2005 10:15 am, rob3 said:





I am not certain if this is a Gentoo problem, a bios problem, a mobo
problem, or what.   I just want to know if anyone else has seen it or
has it now.

I can't keep the clock on the right time.   This Dell 8600 Laptop has a
brand new mobo in it.  So it seems crazy that the battery would be dead
already.  Windoze shows the same behavior.

Thanks,  Rob
 



Is the clock bouncing between two hour times while the minute stays more
or less correct? If so, then Gentoo is probably setting the hardware clock
to UTC (universal time, or Greenwich Mean Time) when it shuts down, and
Windoze is expecting local time on bootup... They may be messing with each
other??

Dave





I don't know.  Dell support gave me a patch to the bios, so I will see
in the next day or so if it is bios, or OS issue.\

Thanks!  Rob


Hi !!

No, the hour changes and the minutes change.

Rob.

Thanks for response.  Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that 
solved the problem CLOCK=local.  This does not appear in the Gentoo 
manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time.  I submitted 
a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this.


Rob.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] Marvell Yukon kernel drivers deprecated?

2005-05-21 Thread Qian Qiao
Hi,

I was upgrading my kernel to 2.6.11-r9 today on a amd64, and I noticed
that the Marvell Yukon  gigabit ethernet driver is now marked
deprecated? Any1 know why? Hardware too old? Replacement has been
written? Or licensing/policy issue?

TIA.

-- Joe

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Sometimes money can't even buy a gun...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge after kernel upgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Dan Johansson
On Thursday 19 May 2005 22.27, Zachary Medico wrote:
 --- Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  After I've done an upgrade of my kernel I have to
  re-emerge some kernelmodules
  (madwifi-driver among other). BUT when I do this
  emerge removes the module
  from the /lib/modules/... from the old kernel
  version. Is there a way to make
  emerge keep the old version as well so I can boot
  the old kernel again with
  full functionality?
 
  Regards,
  Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu
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 You could add this to /etc/make.conf:

 CONFIG_PROTECT=$CONFIG_PROTECT /lib/modules

 Zac

Thanks, that did the trick.
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge after kernel upgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 21 May 2005 21:48, Dan Johansson wrote:
 On Thursday 19 May 2005 22.27, Zachary Medico wrote:
  --- Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   After I've done an upgrade of my kernel I have to
   re-emerge some kernelmodules
   (madwifi-driver among other). BUT when I do this
   emerge removes the module
   from the /lib/modules/... from the old kernel
   version. Is there a way to make
   emerge keep the old version as well so I can boot
   the old kernel again with
   full functionality?

This should not happen.

  You could add this to /etc/make.conf:
 
  CONFIG_PROTECT=$CONFIG_PROTECT /lib/modules

Adding $CONFIG_PROTECT is not needed unless it already has some definition in 
make.conf. Also, ${NAME} syntax should always be used in portage config 
files.

 Thanks, that did the trick.

What portage version are using?

Regards,
Jason Stubbs


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge after kernel upgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Dan Johansson
On Saturday 21 May 2005 14.55, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Saturday 21 May 2005 21:48, Dan Johansson wrote:
  On Thursday 19 May 2005 22.27, Zachary Medico wrote:
   --- Dan Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
   
After I've done an upgrade of my kernel I have to
re-emerge some kernelmodules
(madwifi-driver among other). BUT when I do this
emerge removes the module
from the /lib/modules/... from the old kernel
version. Is there a way to make
emerge keep the old version as well so I can boot
the old kernel again with
full functionality?

 This should not happen.

   You could add this to /etc/make.conf:
  
   CONFIG_PROTECT=$CONFIG_PROTECT /lib/modules

 Adding $CONFIG_PROTECT is not needed unless it already has some definition
 in make.conf. Also, ${NAME} syntax should always be used in portage config
 files.

  Thanks, that did the trick.

 What portage version are using?

 Regards,
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My portage version is sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19 on x86.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Marvell Yukon kernel drivers deprecated?

2005-05-21 Thread Luigi Pinna
Alle 14:43, sabato 21 maggio 2005, Qian Qiao ha scritto:
 Hi,

 I was upgrading my kernel to 2.6.11-r9 today on a amd64, and I
 noticed that the Marvell Yukon  gigabit ethernet driver is now marked
 deprecated? Any1 know why? Hardware too old? Replacement has been
 written? Or licensing/policy issue?

 TIA.

No, there is a new driver...
From my menuconfig:
CONFIG_SKGE:


This driver support the Marvell Yukon or SysKonnect SK-98xx/SK-95xx and 
related Gigabit Ethernet adapters. It is a new smaller driver 
driver with better performance and more complete ethtool support. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge after kernel upgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 21 May 2005 22:08, Dan Johansson wrote:
 On Saturday 21 May 2005 14.55, Jason Stubbs wrote:
  What portage version are using?

 My portage version is sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19 on x86.

There's been a hack in portage all the way through 2.0.51 and I'm pretty sure 
2.0.50 as well that prevents _anything_ from being removed from /lib/modules. 
Are you positive that things are being removed?

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2005-05-21 Thread Julien Cayzac
Is anyone here running Gentoo with -fvisibility=hidden in his CFLAGS ?
Never experienced any problem?

Thanks,
Julien

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[gentoo-user] usb scanner permissions

2005-05-21 Thread luis jure
hello list,

first i must say that i'm new to gentoo, to kernel 2.6 AND to udev, so be
warned...

i started installation from stage1 a few days ago and by now i have just
about everything installed and working. but i've hit just a couple of bent
nails, here's one:

- device: agfa snapscan e20 usb scanner
- software installed: sane-backends-1.0.15 and xsane-0.96-r1
- problem: runs OK as root but not as normal user

(after googling around and reading the docs)

- added my normal user scanner group, the /etc/hotplug/usb/libusbscanner
script should take care of changing the permissions of the usb device. 

- still does not work.

acme root # lsusb 
Bus 004 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 003 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 06bd:2091 AGFA-Gevaert NV SnapScan e20
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :  
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

acme root # sane-find-scanner 

found USB scanner (vendor=0x06bd [AGFA ], product=0x2091 [SNAPSCAN]) at
libusb:002:002  
[etc]

acme root # scanimage -L
device `snapscan:libusb:002:002' is a AGFA SNAPSCAN flatbed scanner

and xsane runs OK. but as normal user:

acme lj $ groups
root wheel audio cdrom video cdrw usb users scanner

acme lj $ sane-find-scanner 
found USB scanner (vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2091) at libusb:002:002

{note that it doesn't recognize vendor or model}


acme lj $ scanimage -L
No scanners were identified. [etc]

of course that doing chmod 660 /proc/bus/usb/002/002 solves the problem, but
that's not permanent.

any ideas why the libusbscanner script is not working for me? BTW, my usb
digital camera works just fine with gphoto...

best,

lj

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dynamic DNS

2005-05-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

Thanks.  I'll look at it.

On Sat, 21 May 2005, Felix Tiede wrote:


Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

I want to use dhcp on my home network to assign IP addresses which means
I'll need a dynamic DNS.  I know I can go to dyndns.org and set up
something with them but can I setup my own name server (BIND or
whatever) and some program that will work with that to keep the DNS
updated?


Yes, you can. Especially ISC-BIND with ISC-DHCP can do this.
I've tried it once, but it messed up my zone-files in bind so I decided to
use the simple way: Assign addresses based on the clients' MAC-address via
DHCP and keep static entries in my zones.

I do not know which of both packages has the more complete description for
DDNS (as dhcp names it), but both of them have documentation for this scenario.

AFAIK there's one caveat: Normally bind uses authentication between rndc
(the commandline tool to control bind's operation) and the daemon, it's not
that simple to keep this up with DHCP. Maybe this has changed in younger
versions.

HTH, regards
Felix




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Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2005-05-21 Thread David Morgan
On 14:11 Sat 21 May , Julien Cayzac wrote:
 Is anyone here running Gentoo with -fvisibility=hidden in his CFLAGS ?
 Never experienced any problem?
 
 Thanks,
 Julien
 
iirc it does't make sense to have it in your CLFAGS, since it only
affects c++ stuff (so it'd go in CXXFLAGS)

It does cause problems with kde stuff, and with wxGTK stuff though

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Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2005-05-21 Thread Julien Cayzac
On 5/21/05, David Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It does cause problems with kde stuff, and with wxGTK stuff though

Thanks for the answer, I won't put it in my make.conf yet...
Have some bugreports been raised for the problems you described yet?
If not, it might be worth it to add them to Bugzilla (so that the dev
guys filter the flag out in the faulty ebuilds).

Julien.

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Re: [gentoo-user] startx kde

2005-05-21 Thread cfk
On Friday 20 May 2005 22:55, Nick Rout wrote:
 Read the Fine Manual

Which Fine Manual are we talking about here for kde and where might it be 
found?

 set the DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm line in /etc/rc.conf

 then

 rc-update add xdm boot

 /etc/init.d/xdm start

 On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 19:09 -0700, cfk wrote:
  Thank you for the help on keepwork. Next question.
 
  My computer has spend the day emerging kde.
 
  The function 'startx' does work with 'twm'.
 
  So, I can test kde before changing /etc/X11/initrc/xinitrc from 'twm '
  to 'kde , what is a good way to do that?
 
  Charles

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I've set in /etc/rc.conf DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm and invoked 'rc-update add xdm 
boot'. I have also created (in /root) an .xinitrc with startkde in it as 
mentioned in a previous post last night.

When I reboot the computer, I now get a slightly different version of twm but 
no kde.

I can invoke some kde programs such as kwrite, khexedit and all their widgets 
are rendering, so I think I am very close, but not quite able to get kde to 
startup in Gentoo yet.

Some suggestions on areas to look would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2005-05-21 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 15:05 +, Julien Cayzac wrote:
 On 5/21/05, David Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It does cause problems with kde stuff, and with wxGTK stuff though
 
 Thanks for the answer, I won't put it in my make.conf yet...
 Have some bugreports been raised for the problems you described yet?
 If not, it might be worth it to add them to Bugzilla (so that the dev
 guys filter the flag out in the faulty ebuilds).
 
 Julien.
 

It's already quite famous, and is one of the reasons for KDE 3.4 not
hitting x86 yet.  See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86898


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[gentoo-user] No floppy drives found by 2005.0 install CD

2005-05-21 Thread Walter Dnes
  I saw this on one machine, and thought maybe the machine was flakey.
Now I see it on another machine.  The 2005.0 install CD comes up with a
gazillion devices in /dev but there is no floppy drive!!!  Is this a
reportable bug?  Is there a way to force it make the appropriate device?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
On 5/21/05, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 21 May 2005 17:36, askar ... wrote:  In the kernel I enables option for 'CardBus yenta-compatible' - this
  seems the one I was looking for. After recompilation the kernel I  rebooted the system.  3 lamps of the PCMCIA card was on: 1) Power 2) Act and 2) Link  The pcmcia card I use is Planex ENW-3503-TX. This is the 10Base-T card.
  The cardbus seems working - lights of power and act are on. When I  connect LAN cable the light for Link also switches on.  In /etc/conf.d/net I set IP address for eth0.  When I did # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start, it complains 'no such device
  ...unknown interface'. I think the driver need to be installed. In the  kernel settings I don't see the driver for Planex ENW-3503-TX.  Could anybody help me?  Google can. ;)
  Searching for Planex ENW-3503-TX linux gave a list of card types and what chipsets they contain on the first result. Thanks. But when I searched with the above keyword, the search results in 2 pages, and all sites in japanese... 
Your card has a Winbond W89C926. I then searched for Winbond W89C926 linux and got mostly similar results to the first search, but there was one that indicates that the card is NE2000
 compatible. One of the PCMCIA network drivers in the kernel is NE2000 compatible PCMCIA support, so I'd suggest you give that one a try.I use gentoo 2005.0, kernel 2.6.11. In my kernel I have only NE2100 in:
Device
drivers-Networking support-Network device support-Ethernet
(10 or 100Mb)--AMD Lance and PCnet (AT1500 and NE2100) support.Is this the right place?

One question more - usually we can know about connected devices with command lspci. But in the result from lspci no information about my pcmcia-card.

askar


Re: [gentoo-user] -fvisibility=hidden

2005-05-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 22 May 2005 00:43, Julien Cayzac wrote:
 On 5/21/05, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You miss the point. Adding that flag to CFLAGS (or CXXFLAGS) is faulty in
  and of itself. It is not a general optimization flag. It is something
  that each package's codebase needs to be updated to support. When
  upstream updates their packages, they will also update whatever build
  system to specify that flag accordingly.

 From the GCC manpage:
 A good explanation of the benefits offered by ensuring ELF symbols
 have the correct visibility is given by ``How To Write Shared
 Libraries'' by Ulrich Drepper (which can be found at
 http://people.redhat.com/~drepper/) - however a superior solution
 made possible by this option to marking things hidden when the default
 is public is to make the default hidden and mark things public. This
 is the norm with DLL's on Windows and with -fvisibility=hidden and
 __attribute__ ((visibility(default))) instead of
 __declspec(dllexport) you get almost identical semantics with
 identical syntax. This is a great boon to those working with
 cross-platform projects.

 As I understand this, any shared object that relies on the fact that
 its symbols will get magically exported while not explicitly
 exporting them is broken. That said, Portage provides a way to mask
 broken c(xx)flags for those ebuilds.

Yes, but there was not only no requirement up until recently, there was no way 
to specify visibility. This means that almost everything is broken at the 
moment. Or alternatively, you can consider telling the compiler that a piece 
of code does specify it's visibility when it actually doesn't to be a broken 
action. It's with the latter viewpoint that any bugs filed asking for 
-fvisibility=hidden to be filtered will be marked INVALID.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge after kernel upgrade

2005-05-21 Thread Dan Johansson
On Saturday 21 May 2005 15.46, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 On Saturday 21 May 2005 22:08, Dan Johansson wrote:
  On Saturday 21 May 2005 14.55, Jason Stubbs wrote:
   What portage version are using?
 
  My portage version is sys-apps/portage-2.0.51.19 on x86.

 There's been a hack in portage all the way through 2.0.51 and I'm pretty
 sure 2.0.50 as well that prevents _anything_ from being removed from
 /lib/modules. Are you positive that things are being removed?

 Regards,
 Jason Stubbs
Yes I am. I can provide you with some output later today or tomorrow (have to 
leave now).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211

2005-05-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 22 May 2005 00:54, askar ... wrote:
 On 5/21/05, Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Saturday 21 May 2005 17:36, askar ... wrote:
   In the kernel I enables option for 'CardBus yenta-compatible' - this
   seems the one I was looking for. After recompilation the kernel I
   rebooted the system.
   3 lamps of the PCMCIA card was on: 1) Power 2) Act and 2) Link
   The pcmcia card I use is Planex ENW-3503-TX. This is the 10Base-T card.
   The cardbus seems working - lights of power and act are on. When I
   connect LAN cable the light for Link also switches on.
   In /etc/conf.d/net I set IP address for eth0.
   When I did # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start, it complains 'no such device
   ...unknown interface'. I think the driver need to be installed. In the
   kernel settings I don't see the driver for Planex ENW-3503-TX.
   Could anybody help me?
 
  Google can. ;)
 
  Searching for Planex ENW-3503-TX linux gave a list of card types and
  what chipsets they contain on the first result.

 Thanks. But when I searched with the above keyword, the search results in 2
 pages, and all sites in japanese...

I noticed that. I figured you'd probably be able to read seeing I thought 
Planex was a domestic-only brand. Luckily I can read Japanese. ;)

  Your card has a Winbond W89C926. I then searched for Winbond W89C926 
  linux and got mostly similar results to the first search, but there was 
  one that indicates that the card is NE2000 compatible. One of the PCMCIA 
  network drivers in the kernel is NE2000 compatible PCMCIA support, so 
  I'd suggest you give that one a try.   

 I use gentoo 2005.0, kernel 2.6.11. In my kernel I have only NE2100 in:
 Device drivers-Networking support-Network device support-Ethernet (10 or
 100Mb)--AMD Lance and PCnet (AT1500 and NE2100) support.
 Is this the right place?

Device Drivers  ---
  Networking support  ---
PCMCIA network device support  ---
  NE2000 compatible PCMCIA support

 One question more - usually we can know about connected devices with
 command lspci. But in the result from lspci no information about my
 pcmcia-card.

As far as I know, lspci only shows you what's on the PCI bus. PCMCIA is a 
different bus which is generally connected to the PCI bus.

Regards,
Jason Stubbs


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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

2005-05-21 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 21 May 2005, Rob wrote:

 Thanks for response.  Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that
 solved the problem CLOCK=local.  This does not appear in the Gentoo
 manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time.  I submitted
 a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this.

Normally this line is already in rc.conf and well commented enough to
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211 SOLVED

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
   Searching for Planex ENW-3503-TX linux gave a list of card types and
   what chipsets they contain on the first result.
 
  Thanks. But when I searched with the above keyword, the search results in 2
  pages, and all sites in japanese...
 
 I noticed that. I figured you'd probably be able to read seeing I thought
 Planex was a domestic-only brand. Luckily I can read Japanese. ;)
Yes, I also can read japanese (lived in Tokyo for 4years) and a half,
but in search results I didn't see any info about Winbond W89C926.

  I use gentoo 2005.0, kernel 2.6.11. In my kernel I have only NE2100 in:
  Device drivers-Networking support-Network device support-Ethernet (10 or
  100Mb)--AMD Lance and PCnet (AT1500 and NE2100) support.
  Is this the right place?
 
 Device Drivers  ---
   Networking support  ---
 PCMCIA network device support  ---
   NE2000 compatible PCMCIA support
Thank you.
Now it works!!! :)


  One question more - usually we can know about connected devices with
  command lspci. But in the result from lspci no information about my
  pcmcia-card.
 
 As far as I know, lspci only shows you what's on the PCI bus. PCMCIA is a
 different bus which is generally connected to the PCI bus.
Even now, pcmcia card works, there is no info in lspci.

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[gentoo-user] kopete kde3.4 raise window doesn't work anymore

2005-05-21 Thread Francisco Figueiredo Jr.
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after updating kde to 3.4 I noticed that kopete doesn't raise windows
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It only raise windows if I have a kopete configuration window open.

Are you also seeing that?

Is there any workaround I could use?


I remember that Gaim suffered the same problem with kde 3.3 so I changed
to Kopete.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Sad Jack
Bill Roberts wrote:
 On 20:07 Fri 20 May , Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
Wouldn't that be nice!  Oh, well till then we copy, modify, make new iso.

On Fri, 20 May 2005, Zac Medico wrote:


Nice bluff though.  I was hoping sombody added rw
support to the iso9660 driver ;-)

--- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Okay - it was a good idea in theory.  However, he
can mount it, copy it
somewhere, modify it and then create an iso of the
changes.

On Fri, 20 May 2005, Ryan wrote:


Sad Jack wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



You can mount the iso on a loop device and

manipuilate it there.

 
 I did a little googling and found the following tutorial:
 
 http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue87/sunil.html
 
 Looks like a bit of work, but it is all laid out nicely.
 
 Bill Roberts

Thanks to eveyone who replied with suggestions.

I have been able to mount the iso on /mnt/loop and copy the files. I
have added my file and created a new iso.

My difficulty now is to make it bootable. I have followed the link
posted by Bill but the end bit about creating a bootable cd does not
work for me.

I have looked through k3b trying to find an option for creating a
bootable cd but cannot find one.

Can you offer any further help?

Thanks again. I've learnt a bit more but need another nudge!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211 SOLVED

2005-05-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:31:28 +0600
askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Even now, pcmcia card works, there is no info in lspci.

Then it's not cardbus but 16 bit. cardctl can tell, i think. Only
cardbus is usually transparently mapped onto the PCI bus.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: driver CardBus bridge Texas Instruments PCI1211 SOLVED

2005-05-21 Thread askar ...
Thanks for info!

askar

On 5/22/05, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Sat, 21 May 2005 22:31:28 +0600
 askar ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Even now, pcmcia card works, there is no info in lspci.
 
 Then it's not cardbus but 16 bit. cardctl can tell, i think. Only
 cardbus is usually transparently mapped onto the PCI bus.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] startx kde

2005-05-21 Thread ZeeGeek
On 5/21/05, cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 20 May 2005 22:55, Nick Rout wrote: Read the Fine ManualWhich Fine Manual are we talking about here for kde and where might it befound? set the DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm line in /etc/rc.conf
 then rc-update add xdm boot /etc/init.d/xdm start On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 19:09 -0700, cfk wrote:  Thank you for the help on keepwork. Next question.
   My computer has spend the day emerging kde.   The function 'startx' does work with 'twm'.   So, I can test kde before changing /etc/X11/initrc/xinitrc from 'twm '
  to 'kde , what is a good way to do that?   Charles -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]I've set in /etc/rc.conf DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm and invoked 'rc-update add xdm
boot'. I have also created (in /root) an .xinitrc with startkde in it asmentioned in a previous post last night.When I reboot the computer, I now get a slightly different version of twm butno kde.
I can invoke some kde programs such as kwrite, khexedit and all their widgetsare rendering, so I think I am very close, but not quite able to get kde tostartup in Gentoo yet.Some suggestions on areas to look would be appreciated.
Charles Krinke--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listif you use xdm, then you won't need .xinitrc in your home directory, this file is for startx. iirc

try to put XSESSION=kde in your /etc/rc.conf-- http://zeegeek.blogspot.comhttp://ihome.ust.hk/~cs_snx/blog/
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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Zac Medico

--- Sad Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have been able to mount the iso on /mnt/loop and
 copy the files. I
 have added my file and created a new iso.
 
 My difficulty now is to make it bootable. I have
 followed the link
 posted by Bill but the end bit about creating a
 bootable cd does not
 work for me.
 
 I have looked through k3b trying to find an option
 for creating a
 bootable cd but cannot find one.
 

Is it correct to assume that you want to boot Linux?
;-)

You could use grub or isolinux (syslinux package).

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php



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Re: [gentoo-user] adding files to an iso image

2005-05-21 Thread Sad Jack
Zac Medico wrote:
 --- Sad Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I have been able to mount the iso on /mnt/loop and
copy the files. I
have added my file and created a new iso.

My difficulty now is to make it bootable. I have
followed the link
posted by Bill but the end bit about creating a
bootable cd does not
work for me.

I have looked through k3b trying to find an option
for creating a
bootable cd but cannot find one.

 
 
 Is it correct to assume that you want to boot Linux?
 ;-)
 
 You could use grub or isolinux (syslinux package).
 
 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
 http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php
 
 
   
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Sorry, yes it is.

I've now found a way of using a boot image with k3b, should have kept on
looking instead of asking!

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Re: [gentoo-user] startx kde

2005-05-21 Thread cfk
On Saturday 21 May 2005 10:27, ZeeGeek wrote:
 On 5/21/05, cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 20 May 2005 22:55, Nick Rout wrote:
   Read the Fine Manual
 
  Which Fine Manual are we talking about here for kde and where might it
  be
  found?
 
   set the DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm line in /etc/rc.conf
  
   then
  
   rc-update add xdm boot
  
   /etc/init.d/xdm start
  
   On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 19:09 -0700, cfk wrote:
Thank you for the help on keepwork. Next question.
   
My computer has spend the day emerging kde.
   
The function 'startx' does work with 'twm'.
   
So, I can test kde before changing /etc/X11/initrc/xinitrc from 'twm
 
  '
 
to 'kde , what is a good way to do that?
   
Charles
  
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  I've set in /etc/rc.conf DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm and invoked 'rc-update add
  xdm boot'. I have also created (in /root) an .xinitrc with startkde in it
  as mentioned in a previous post last night.
 
  When I reboot the computer, I now get a slightly different version of twm
  but
  no kde.
 
  I can invoke some kde programs such as kwrite, khexedit and all their
  widgets
  are rendering, so I think I am very close, but not quite able to get kde
  to
  startup in Gentoo yet.
 
  Some suggestions on areas to look would be appreciated.
 
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 if you use xdm, then you won't need .xinitrc in your home directory, this
 file is for startx. iirc
 try to put XSESSION=kde in your /etc/rc.conf
Thank you all. I have gotten my first Gentoo system up to the KDE stage and 
can now emerge from an X-Windows terminal, so I'm going for kdevelop and a 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing on Firewire drive?

2005-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Is mac-fdisk a mount command or is it a way to used fdisk under
Yellow Dog on a Mac?

   Generally speaking you mount *partitions* so it would be

mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/firewire-1

   Under normal linux you could do

fdisk -l /dev/sdb

and get a listing of partitions on sdb. You might try to find the
equivalent for Yellow Dog I suppose.

   I run 4 external 1394 drives on x86 so I can help out if you get a
better response from one of these command ideas.

Good luck,
Mark

On 5/21/05, Charles Trois [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The disk on my G4 iMac contains an installation of Yellow Dog Linux
 4.0.1 and two Apple partitions housing Macos 9 and 10 respectively.
 I also have an external Firewire disk, which I had reformatted, leaving
 a large unallocated space at the top (with a vague idea of putting
 another Linux there).
 
 Now I want to experiment with Gentoo. I have booted the Gentoo 2005.0
 Universal disk, specifying G4 dofirewire, and got this at the first
 prompt:
 
 Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
 Attached scsi generic sg1 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0
 
 I have ascertained from Yellow Dog that the Firewire address is indeed
 /dev/sdb (its contents can be listed with pdisk, and it is properly
 mounted).
 
 So I tried
 
 mac-fdisk /dev/sdb
 
 but I had no success:
 
 mac-fdisk:  can't open file '/dev/sdb' (No medium found)
 
 It seems that the Firewire is more or less recognized (as shown by the
 first log line above), but then there is a problem.
 
 Can someone suggest a way to go further, or is my enterprise hopeless?
 That is what I would like to know.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Clock going crazy

2005-05-21 Thread rob3
A. Khattri wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005, Rob wrote:

  

Thanks for response.  Acutually it was adding a line to rc.conf that
solved the problem CLOCK=local.  This does not appear in the Gentoo
manual, but is only needed for BIOS's which use local time.  I submitted
a doc bug report, so that no one else gets bit with this.



Normally this line is already in rc.conf and well commented enough to
understand.


  

Not in mine.  Missing from stage 3 tarball for i386.

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[gentoo-user] last problem OpenOffice not working from user acct.

2005-05-21 Thread rob3
Root or su can  start OO easily with ooffice command.  But it doesn't
work as a user.  I keeps sending the error message that the setup is
aborted.  Who knows what this means, but its irritating, having to go
back in to user directory and chowning and chgrpin files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Applying other patches.

2005-05-21 Thread Jose Angel Rodriguez Leyva
Thanks to all. I was unable to reply before.

Tom Wesley wrote:
 
 I would create an overlay directory and copy to ebuilds there, that way
 you can version bump your overlay as the main portage tree gets updated.

I was replying that it is a good idea but it has a disadvantage when I
realized I was confused about of overlay dir in portage. I thought that
if created the same entry in overlay, emerge never look in portage tree
for more recent updates, and then I had to keep watching the changes in
portage tree. Thank you for let me know my mistake.

I made a change in my bashrc script for if I forgot to patch a new update.

if [ ${EBUILD_PHASE} == clean -a ${EBUILD:0:${#PORTDIR_OVERLAY}}
!= ${PORTDIR_OVERLAY} ]  /bin/grep -q ${CATEGORY}/${PN}
/etc/portage/package.inoverlay
then
   read -p Ya parchaste el paquete? [s/N] -n 1 Q
   /bin/echo
   [ $Q != s ]  /bin/kill $$
fi


grettings

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Re: [gentoo-user] last problem OpenOffice not working from user acct.

2005-05-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
After you installed OO as root did you then log in as user and run the 
setup in the OO programs directory (/opt/openoffice../programs)?


On Sat, 21 May 2005, rob3 wrote:


Root or su can  start OO easily with ooffice command.  But it doesn't
work as a user.  I keeps sending the error message that the setup is
aborted.  Who knows what this means, but its irritating, having to go
back in to user directory and chowning and chgrpin files.

Rob.



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Re: [gentoo-user] last problem OpenOffice not working from user acct.

2005-05-21 Thread Zac Medico

--- rob3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Root or su can  start OO easily with ooffice
 command.  But it doesn't
 work as a user.  I keeps sending the error message
 that the setup is
 aborted.  Who knows what this means, but its
 irritating, having to go
 back in to user directory and chowning and chgrpin
 files.

Maybe it's choaking on some hidden config files in use
user's home directory like .openoffice or .sversionrc
or something.  What version of openoffice?

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 13 May 2005 11:06 am, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
 long it yours?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # wc -l /var/lib/portage/world
67 /var/lib/portage/world

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Help with partitioning

2005-05-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 08:51 am, Dirk Heinrichs 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 my logical volumes (even / and swap)

I prefer swap not an a lvm partition.  But, that's because I use loop-aes 
underneath lvm (my PVs are loopback devices), but want to use random keys 
for swap and not encrypt twice.

 No, he wouldn't, because he uses LVM. He can simply grow the swap
 volume.

That is a nice advantage (imagine if he upgrades his ram in the future) but 
will software-suspend work with swap on a logical volume?

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Re: [gentoo-user] next step X

2005-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On 5/21/05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 13 May 2005 11:06 am, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My world file is 235 lines long. How screwed up is that really? How
  long it yours?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # wc -l /var/lib/portage/world
 67 /var/lib/portage/world
 

Yeah, thanks. After working on my config for a couple of days I'm down
to 102. I'm happy.

Cheers,
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[gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
Are there any instructions about on how to take an older machine (18
months) and switch it to udev from devfs? I see that udev is in
portage so I can emerge that, but how do I tell the machine which to
use? Is it automatic upon reboot?

The machine has been updated to a new gentoo-sources. (2.6.11-gentoo-r9)

Thanks in advance,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Tim Igoe
Install udev as in portage. Then edit the kernel to remove devfs -
recompile and reboot.

Job done, it should say using udev at bootup.

Tim

Mark Knecht wrote:
 Are there any instructions about on how to take an older machine (18
 months) and switch it to udev from devfs? I see that udev is in
 portage so I can emerge that, but how do I tell the machine which to
 use? Is it automatic upon reboot?
 
 The machine has been updated to a new gentoo-sources. (2.6.11-gentoo-r9)
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Mark
 

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[gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread Joseph Drake
Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is 
transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't 
know how it works. Thanks for any advice.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Felix Tiede
Mark Knecht wrote:
 Are there any instructions about on how to take an older machine (18
 months) and switch it to udev from devfs? I see that udev is in
 portage so I can emerge that, but how do I tell the machine which to
 use? Is it automatic upon reboot?
 
 The machine has been updated to a new gentoo-sources. (2.6.11-gentoo-r9)

Tell it to use udev by adding gentoo=nodevfs to your kernel-commandline.

Other way: Remove support for /dev filesystem (DEVFS) from your kernel.

HTH, regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
Tim,
   Yes, basically correct. I didn't remove devfs, but I did change the
opton to tell it not to mount at boot time. That was enough to get rid
of some messages that said

error calling unlink in GLOBAL 

I still had one more problem. gdm wouldn't start since my xorg.conf
file said /dev/mouse instead of /dev/input/mice. Once I made that last
change everythign seemed to come up fine.

Now to see if this gets me closer to fixing the permissions problem for ivtv.

thanks!

- Mark

On 5/21/05, Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Install udev as in portage. Then edit the kernel to remove devfs -
 recompile and reboot.
 
 Job done, it should say using udev at bootup.
 
 Tim
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  Are there any instructions about on how to take an older machine (18
  months) and switch it to udev from devfs? I see that udev is in
  portage so I can emerge that, but how do I tell the machine which to
  use? Is it automatic upon reboot?
 
  The machine has been updated to a new gentoo-sources. (2.6.11-gentoo-r9)
 
  Thanks in advance,
  Mark
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Christoph Eckert

 Install udev as in portage. Then edit the kernel to remove
 devfs - recompile and reboot.

Additionally, the guide to writing udev rules by Daniel Drake 
(thanks a lot) has been updated:

Writing udev rules


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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Mike Williams
On Saturday 21 May 2005 23:57, Felix Tiede wrote:
 Tell it to use udev by adding gentoo=nodevfs to your kernel-commandline.

 Other way: Remove support for /dev filesystem (DEVFS) from your kernel.

Or, just install udev.

The init scripts will work the rest out.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread Patrick Daniel Gress
try iptraf or ntop. The last one offers some detailed information via
web-based interface.   

On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 00:56 +0200, Joseph Drake wrote:
 Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is 
 transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't 
 know how it works. Thanks for any advice.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread Patrick Daniel Gress
try iptraf or ntop. The last one offers some detailed information via
web-based interface.   

On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 00:56 +0200, Joseph Drake wrote:
 Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is 
 transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't 
 know how it works. Thanks for any advice.
 
 q-parser

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Re: [gentoo-user] No HTML in posts?

2005-05-21 Thread Peng

On 05/21/05 16:26, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 02 May 2005 04:33 pm, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Mon, 02 May 2005 21:00:30 +, Alex A. Smith MCP wrote:


Time straped as it is, I'll type in what ever my Default Email prog
wants me to, asking people to turn it off wont work much, better to
make a better argument and ask the developers to dist it without html
as default.


Remember that when you ask a question in HTML and the person that really
knows the answer does even read it because he is too time straped to
sort the message from the decorations.



While I can't say I answer that many questions here, I am one of those 
troublesome users that refuses to read HTML email, even though my client 
(KMail or Firefox/Horde, depending on where I'm at) supports it.  [I turn 
support off, as both a security precaution and personal preference.]


I don't even read HTML replies to my own questions.  I figure anyone that 
won't turn off HTML for mailing list posts couldn't possibly provide me 
with any useful information. ;)


How is HTML a security risk? JavaScript could be, I suppose, but HTML?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 21 May 2005 06:56 pm, Joseph Drake wrote:
 Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is
 transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't
 know how it works. Thanks for any advice.


I have a number of text mode only servers running iptraf for network 
monitoring. Works quite well. If you need nicely formatted reports and 
charts, you can't beat ntop, but you need a browser to view the data.

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[gentoo-user] Gnome problem

2005-05-21 Thread Bill Six
Hi,

My computer was accidently shut down uncleanly while
running Gnome.  When it was restarted, the icons on
the desktop won't show, when you right click on the
desktop no options are presented, and the background
image doesn't show.

Any ideas as to why?

Bill

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome problem

2005-05-21 Thread rodrigo

El 22/05/05 00:33:09, Bill Six escribió:

Hi,

My computer was accidently shut down uncleanly while
running Gnome.  When it was restarted, the icons on
the desktop won't show, when you right click on the
desktop no options are presented, and the background
image doesn't show.

Any ideas as to why?


gconf messed up? (fast fix: rm -r ~/.g*and reconstruct all  
preferences again)






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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread q-parser




Jerry McBride wrote:

  On Saturday 21 May 2005 06:56 pm, Joseph Drake wrote:
  
  
Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is
transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't
know how it works. Thanks for any advice.


  
  
I have a number of "text mode only" servers running iptraf for network 
monitoring. Works quite well. If you need nicely formatted reports and 
charts, you can't beat ntop, but you need a browser to view the data.

Cheers.
  

Ok, thanks. I'm going to try ntop.




Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Christoph Eckert
Sorry,


 Writing udev rules

here it is:

http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] Console background images and colored ls output

2005-05-21 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 00:25 -0700, darren kirby wrote:
 quoth the Colin:
  Is it possible to get a background image for the console like it is on
  the LiveCD?  Also, how do you make the output of ls colored?
 
  --
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 You're looking for bootsplash. Check this out:
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-49036-highlight-bootsplash+grubsplash.html

Nope.. Gentoo by default uses gensplash instead of bootsplash.

Look up spock the gentoo developer. 

or do an esearch for splashutils for the URL.

 
 Also, as mentioned:
 $ echo alias ls='ls --color=auto'  ~/.bashrc
 
 -d

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Max
Because no one mentioned it. There is also a Gentoo udev Guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml

max

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[gentoo-user] Soundcard not detected

2005-05-21 Thread Colin
I'm trying to get my soundcard working.  It isn't detected by lspci 
under my kernel, but the LiveCD's lspci  finds it and detects it on the 
line :00:11.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor 
Vortex 1 (rev 02).  The LiveCD coldplugs it as driver=unknown, but that 
shouldn't stop lspci from finding it.


I'm guessing I forgot to compile something into the kernel 
(2.6.11-gentoo-r9)?  And once there, how can I install ALSA under 
GNOME?  (This system's main goal is to play sound, after all.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread q-parser




Jerry McBride wrote:

  On Saturday 21 May 2005 06:56 pm, Joseph Drake wrote:
  
  
Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is
transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't
know how it works. Thanks for any advice.


  
  
I have a number of "text mode only" servers running iptraf for network 
monitoring. Works quite well. If you need nicely formatted reports and 
charts, you can't beat ntop, but you need a browser to view the data.

Cheers.
  

So I installed ntop, ran it and now what? 




Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome problem

2005-05-21 Thread Edward Catmur
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 17:33 -0700, Bill Six wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My computer was accidently shut down uncleanly while
 running Gnome.  When it was restarted, the icons on
 the desktop won't show, when you right click on the
 desktop no options are presented, and the background
 image doesn't show.
 
 Any ideas as to why?

Nautilus not running?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switch from devfs to udev?

2005-05-21 Thread Mark Knecht
Thanks to all for your answers.

Everything except Video4Linux seems to be working. I'm sure v4l is
some oversight on my part.

cheers,
Mark

On 5/21/05, Max [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Because no one mentioned it. There is also a Gentoo udev Guide:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
 
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[gentoo-user] Adding Menus in KDE

2005-05-21 Thread cfk
I have my Gentoo system booting and running KDE, than you very much. Now is 
the time to understand how menus are added to the task bar.

I wonder how new programs, such as kdevelop, just emerged are added to the 
menu. I know how to create a task bar button from a menu item, but I dont 
know how to create a menu item.

I am asking this question in two ways, both manually (right-click something 
maybe) and automatically (all executables in a directory, or all executables 
in a package, or executables emerged in a certain way).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Saturday 21 May 2005 09:13 pm, q-parser wrote:
 Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Saturday 21 May 2005 06:56 pm, Joseph Drake wrote:
 Does anyone know any good traffic monitor? I want to how much data is
 transported when my machine's up. I emerged traffic-vis, but I don't
 know how it works. Thanks for any advice.
 
 I have a number of text mode only servers running iptraf for network
 monitoring. Works quite well. If you need nicely formatted reports and
 charts, you can't beat ntop, but you need a browser to view the data.
 
 Cheers.

 So I installed ntop, ran it and now what?

Umm... read the manual? Actually... from your browser, type in: 
http://localhost:3000

That should get you started...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic monitor

2005-05-21 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 22 May 2005, q-parser wrote:

 So I installed ntop, ran it and now what?

If you read the docs, you'll probably see you need to connect to the
machine from a web browser on a specific port.

BTW, if you need to graph bandwidth, I highly recommend cacti.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Adding Menus in KDE

2005-05-21 Thread Martin S
Right-click the K-menu button, select Menu Editor.
Then you can add an item manually.

Cheers,

Martin S



Re: [gentoo-user] No floppy drives found by 2005.0 install CD

2005-05-21 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 21 May 2005, Walter Dnes wrote:

   I saw this on one machine, and thought maybe the machine was flakey.
 Now I see it on another machine.  The 2005.0 install CD comes up with a
 gazillion devices in /dev but there is no floppy drive!!!  Is this a
 reportable bug?  Is there a way to force it make the appropriate device?

man MAKEDEV

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Re: [gentoo-user] world file clean-up - glibc linux-headers??

2005-05-21 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 21 May 2005, Stroller wrote:


 On May 18, 2005, at 3:11 am, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 As per some conversations last week I've been doing a lot of clean
  up of my world files. I've moved from a high of 235 files down to my
  low today of onl 112.

 On a related note, today I took a glance at the world file on a laptop
 I installed a couple of days ago, and glibc  linux-headers are
 mentioned. Is this normal?

 Perhaps I've missed something in the previous thread about the world
 file, but surely glibc  linux-headers are depends of other packages?
 I'm sure I never specifically installed them.

Doesn't the bootstrap script install them?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Adding Menus in KDE

2005-05-21 Thread Zac Medico

--- cfk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have my Gentoo system booting and running KDE,
 than you very much. Now is 
 the time to understand how menus are added to the
 task bar.
 
 I wonder how new programs, such as kdevelop, just
 emerged are added to the 
 menu. I know how to create a task bar button from a
 menu item, but I dont 
 know how to create a menu item.
 
 I am asking this question in two ways, both manually
 (right-click something 
 maybe) and automatically (all executables in a
 directory, or all executables 
 in a package, or executables emerged in a certain
 way).
 
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Right-click the K Menu and choose Menu Editor.  This
hasn't worked for me since kde 3.4 but I can launch
kmenuedit from the shell.

You can also create a user overlay of the menu by
adding desktop shortcuts inside ~/.kde/share/applnk

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome problem

2005-05-21 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

 On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 17:33 -0700, Bill Six wrote:
 Hi,

 My computer was accidently shut down uncleanly while
 running Gnome.  When it was restarted, the icons on
 the desktop won't show, when you right click on the
 desktop no options are presented, and the background
 image doesn't show.

 Any ideas as to why?

 Nautilus not running?

Yes, that would be my guess too - try to start nautilus !
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Re: [gentoo-user] fallback dns servers

2005-05-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 21, 2005 at 12:35:45PM +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote

 I want to execute ln -sf /etc/resolv.conf.fac /etc/resolv.conf *before*
 /etc/init.d/net.eth0, so that if I am at the fac (my office) location I
 have these dns set up, but if I am home with dhcp the resolv.conf
 file will be overwritten. 
 Should I add a script in /etc/init.d for that, or is there something simpler?
 cheers,

  I don't think that you can get it done *BEFORE* net.eth0 is run. 
Gentoo needs to run net.eth0 to set up the network connection.  Then it
has to query ifconfig to find out what the situation is.  I think what
you need is to correct resolv.conf if you are at the office.  The
official Gentoo way to do this would be an init script.  I recommend the
following...

  1) If local is not already in the default runlevel, execute...

 etc-update add local default


  2) In /etc/conf.d/local.start add the following lines

if ifconfig eth0 | grep 194\.199\.136\.151  /dev/null ; then
  cp /etc/resolv.conf.fac /etc/resolv.conf
fi

  *IMPORTANT*.  You must *COPY* /etc/resolv.conf.fac.  If you symlink it
to /etc/resolv.conf, then the next time dhcp overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
it will be overwriting /etc/resolv.conf.fac

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