Re: [gentoo-user] handling folders with spaces

2005-06-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, timothy johnson wrote:

 trying to play starcraft, got it installed

Are you playing Starcraft under WINE?

Love that game...


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-19 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

 Or maybe the selected shell didn't initialize,
 including grub's if this
 is at that point?


 Then I realised the one word GRUB appearing in upper
 left corner of the screen is just a truncated version
 of the above. 


Ah, ok, I see now.  It looks like the stage1 loader in the MBR prints
out the 'GRUB ' part of the message before it starts probing the disk
looking for the stage1.5 or stage2 loader.  The rest of that line is
supposed to be filled in by the stage1.5/stage2.  So, apparently we have
the same basic problem...neither stage1 nor stage1.5 can pull your
stage2 file in.

I was really, really, really hoping that was a 'grub ' prompt! :-(

So it look like we have to go back to trying to get the CD booting to
work.  Copy the /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito to the boot/grub
directory on the ISO image, re-run the mkisofs command we used before,
and burn the resulting ISO to a CD.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive space low, buildpkg to blame?

2005-06-19 Thread Aniruddha Shankar
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Holly Bostick wrote:
 
 Best one I've found is
 
 x11-misc/xdiskusage
  Available versions:  1.46 ~1.48
  Installed:   1.46
  Homepage:http://xdiskusage.sourceforge.net/
  Description: front end to xdu for viewing disk usage
 graphically under X11


If you use KDE, you might want to check out filelight

* kde-misc/filelight
 Available versions:  1.0_beta6
 Installed:   1.0_beta6
 Homepage:http://www.methylblue.com/filelight/
 Description: Filelight is a tool to display where the space
is used on the harddisk

It's very clean, and shows a (IMO) more intuitive display of disk space.
Plus, it plugs in neatly into the KDE guts...

cheers

Aniruddha Karim Shankar
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild badness

2005-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:49:35 -0400, fire-eyes wrote:

 Okay right on. I skipped openoffice-bin, because I don't see the point
 in remerging a binary... The tool could be slightly more intelligent :)

It can be, read the thread revdep-rebuild and -bin packages.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive space low, buildpkg to blame?

2005-06-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:41:04 -0700, Grant wrote:

 What is the best way to clean out the PKGDIR directory?  Maybe I
 should delete its entire contents and run quickpkg to build a package
 of everything I have installed?  I'm happy with this system as it
 currently is.

Manually delete packages for older versions you know you'll no longer
need. Of you could change PKGDIR to somewhere withmore space (I use an
NFS mount for it).

 Also 'man quickpkg' says PKGDIR defaults to /var/tmp/portage-pkg but
 it seems to have defaulted to /var/tmp/portage for me.  Should I
 submit a bug?

/var/tmp/portage is the default for TMPDIR, which could fill up if you
have failed emerges, or have keepwork in FEATURES.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem starting KDE

2005-06-19 Thread Fernando Meira
I tried that.. but it didn't solve it.

There's a suggestion of re-emerging xorg:

echo x11-base/xorg-x11 -minimal  /etc/portage/package.use
emerge xorg-x11

but from emerge -pv xorg-x11 I realize that this use flag is used by default.. so I assume this would't solve it either..

Having KDE 3.4.1 and 3.3.2 can be a problem? I seem to messed up the instalation and end up with both versions installed :(
Any idea?

Thanks,
FernandoOn 6/18/05, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

2005-06-19 Thread Peter Karlsson

On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:


I found 'entrance' but there are too many ~x86 packages for my liking.
Can anyone else recommend a graphical login manager that might have
the ability to allow a user to shut the system down from the login
screen? gdm wants to emerge pretty much all of gnome so I cannot use
that. xdm seems so sparce and doesn't allow shutdown.


Yep, gdm is a pita in that it requires gnome. I use xfce4 and xdm. Xfce4 
allows you to shutdown or reset the system, via sudo. Would this not 
suffice? Otherwise xdm is quite flexible and here's a solution to make 
your own shutdown button:


http://neilt.org/computing/xdmshutdownbutton.html

hth

Best regards

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem starting KDE

2005-06-19 Thread Richard Fish


Fernando Meira wrote:

 Hi,

 I've just merged KDE 3.4.1 (after installing gentoo) following the KDE
 Configuration HOWTO, but it seems I missed something.
 Everything works right with root, but I can't start KDE with a user...
 DCOPserver problem.. This is the output:


snip

 Using vt 7
 FATAL: Module radeon not found.
 [drm] failed to load kernel module radeon


The problem is here.  My guess is that you have something like the
following in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file:

Section Device
Identifier  Card0
Driver  radeon
Option  UseFBDev On
...
EndSection

If so, you either need to set UseFBDev to Off, or build your kernel with
the radeon frame-buffer driver into the kernel or as a module.

If this doesn't help, post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: [gentoo-user] Scroll wheel doesn't scroll

2005-06-19 Thread Mitko Moshev
Chris Ong wrote:

 Zac Medico wrote:

 Colin wrote:

 Sorry for all the messages all at once.  I've noticed recently that my
 mouse's scroll wheel isn't working.  How do I turn on the wheel in X
 (since I'm guessing it's off)?
 -- 
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 It's the ZAxisMapping option.

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Mouse0
 Driver  mouse
 OptionProtocol IMPS/2
 OptionDevice /dev/input/mice
   Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
   Option  Emulate3Buttons no
 EndSection

 Zac

 Did you miss out
 OptionButtons x

 x = no. of button in your mouse.

This is usually not needed.
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[gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread Bill Witherspoon
Hi folks,

Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.

I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
subsequently growisofs all return the same error:

localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.
:-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error

The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.

It appears to me that the drive is read-only?

Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.
TIA,
Bill


localhost mnt # dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/hdc
INQUIRY:[LITE-ON ][DVDRW SOHW-1673S][JS02]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 1Bh, DVD+R
 Media ID:  PRODISC/R03
 Current Write Speed:   8.0x1385=11080KB/s
 Write Speed #0:8.0x1385=11080KB/s
 Write Speed #1:6.0x1385=8310KB/s
GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE:
 Write Performance: 3.2x1385=4432KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 0]
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
 Speed Descriptor#1:00/0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   A1h, DVD+R book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   2295104*2KB
 Track Size:2295104*2KB
 ROM Compatibility LBA: 262144
READ CAPACITY:  1*2048=2048
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[gentoo-user] I can't save Mixer config

2005-06-19 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Hi !

I do use gnome and alsa for my sound. Everytime that I boot I've to set
up mixer properties and volumes, because it doesn't save them as
default. I don't know how to do it, but I don't like to set up it
everytime that I boot.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Claus,
   Not running KDE either. This is a very minimalistic Gentoo machine
that runs nothing but mythfrontend as part of a MythTV network. I'm
currently using fluxbox and have only one user called mythtv. That
user logs in and mythtv runs. When the user quits mythfrontend the
machine (currently) goes back to xdm. With a shutdown button I'd be in
pretty good shape for a keyboard based system.

   Thanks for your help!

Cheers,
Mark

On 6/18/05, Claus Ladekjr Wilson - Otterup Kirke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 if you run KDE kdm is fine and has the ability you are talking about
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  I found 'entrance' but there are too many ~x86 packages for my liking.
  Can anyone else recommend a graphical login manager that might have
  the ability to allow a user to shut the system down from the login
  screen? gdm wants to emerge pretty much all of gnome so I cannot use
  that. xdm seems so sparce and doesn't allow shutdown.
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/19/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  I found 'entrance' but there are too many ~x86 packages for my liking.
  Can anyone else recommend a graphical login manager that might have
  the ability to allow a user to shut the system down from the login
  screen? gdm wants to emerge pretty much all of gnome so I cannot use
  that. xdm seems so sparce and doesn't allow shutdown.
 
 Yep, gdm is a pita in that it requires gnome. I use xfce4 and xdm. Xfce4
 allows you to shutdown or reset the system, via sudo. Would this not
 suffice? Otherwise xdm is quite flexible and here's a solution to make
 your own shutdown button:
 
 http://neilt.org/computing/xdmshutdownbutton.html
 
 hth
 

Peter,
   Thanks! I may try this. I have tcl on the system, but not tk. This
might be a very acceptable solution.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/19/05, Bill Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
 this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
 time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
 and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
 subsequently growisofs all return the same error:
 
 localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
 Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
 /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.
 :-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
 :-( write failed: Input/output error
 
 The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
 have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.
 
 It appears to me that the drive is read-only?
 
 Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.
 TIA,
 Bill

Bill,
   If you don't get an answer fairly quickly then I'd suggest taking
this info to the k3b list. Sebastian is usually pretty responsive to
drive specific hardware problems.

Good luck,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to xdm/gdm?

2005-06-19 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 19 juin  15:15:05 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] crit notamment:

| On 6/19/05, Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
|  
|   I found 'entrance' but there are too many ~x86 packages for my liking.
|   Can anyone else recommend a graphical login manager that might have
|   the ability to allow a user to shut the system down from the login
|   screen? gdm wants to emerge pretty much all of gnome so I cannot use
|   that. xdm seems so sparce and doesn't allow shutdown.
|  
|  Yep, gdm is a pita in that it requires gnome. I use xfce4 and xdm. Xfce4
|  allows you to shutdown or reset the system, via sudo. Would this not
|  suffice? Otherwise xdm is quite flexible and here's a solution to make
|  your own shutdown button:
|  
|  http://neilt.org/computing/xdmshutdownbutton.html
|  
|  hth
|  
| 
| Peter,
|Thanks! I may try this. I have tcl on the system, but not tk. This
| might be a very acceptable solution.

[...]

You might want to try qingy, if framebuffer works on this machine
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't save Mixer config

2005-06-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Rafael Fernndez Lpez wrote:
 I do use gnome and alsa for my sound. Everytime that I boot I've to set
 up mixer properties and volumes, because it doesn't save them as
 default. I don't know how to do it, but I don't like to set up it
 everytime that I boot.

The ALSA guide can probably help you out

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't save Mixer config

2005-06-19 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Daniel Drake wrote:

Rafael Fernndez Lpez wrote:
  

I do use gnome and alsa for my sound. Everytime that I boot I've to set
up mixer properties and volumes, because it doesn't save them as
default. I don't know how to do it, but I don't like to set up it
everytime that I boot.



The ALSA guide can probably help you out

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml

Daniel
  

Fixed. Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread Bill Witherspoon
* Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-19 06:27:04 -0700]:

 On 6/19/05, Bill Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi folks,
  
  Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
  this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.
  
  I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
  time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
  and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
  subsequently growisofs all return the same error:
  
  localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
  Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
  /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.
  :-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
  :-( write failed: Input/output error
  
  The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
  have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.
  
  It appears to me that the drive is read-only?
  
  Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.
  TIA,
  Bill
 
 Bill,
If you don't get an answer fairly quickly then I'd suggest taking
 this info to the k3b list. Sebastian is usually pretty responsive to
 drive specific hardware problems.
 
 Good luck,
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Thanks Mark,
Your reply made me dig into the k3b archives, where I did see a couple
of folks with the same issue, but alas no solutions posted. I've
subscribed to their list and will post the problem there.

Bill

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem starting KDE

2005-06-19 Thread Richard Fish
Fernando Meira wrote:

 On 6/19/05, *Richard Fish* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 If so, you either need to set UseFBDev to Off, or build your
 kernel with
 the radeon frame-buffer driver into the kernel or as a module. 


 The UseFBDev is commented.. does that means that is Off ?


The default is off, so yes.  But I don't understand why you would get a
FATAL error from X in that case...but since it seems to be working now,
I guess it was something else.


 While changing this and that, I deleted the /tmp/ by mistake. After
 creating (mkdir /tmp) and set chmod a+rwx, I got this problem (using
 the new user):


Normal permissions on /tmp are a+rwxt. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to build a Minimal Gentoo

2005-06-19 Thread A. Khattri
On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

 Thanks for all the help guys.. I've managed to get a minimal gentoo
 running.

 right now, the space stands at

 total size = 53.6MB
 ext3 journal = 33MB
 kernel = 2.1MB (compiled with uclibc)
 kernel-modules=9.5MB

Could you describe how you did it?


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem starting KDE

2005-06-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Fernando Meira schreef:
 On 6/19/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
If so, you either need to set UseFBDev to Off, or build your kernel with
the radeon frame-buffer driver into the kernel or as a module.
 
 
 
 The UseFBDev is commented.. does that means that is Off ?
 

Not necessarily, if the internal default for this setting is ON (which I
don't know), but in any case, when commented settings revert to their
internla default, so in this case it might be better to explicitly set
it to Off.

 Anyway, I managed to start KDE. To do that, I created a new user. The 
 difference was that the HOME of my first user is located in a FAT32 
 filesystem, while I placed the new one is at /tmp/ (ReiserFS). Thus, I would 
 say the problem is with the partition. I also noticed that when creating a 
 new user, the files from /etc/skel are not copied to the users' home-dir. 
 Something is wrong with this partition.. i mount it as follows:
 
 /dev/hda5 /home vfat defaults,umask=000 0 0
 
 Both root and users are able to write in that partition, I seems that only 
 scripts fail...


Well, of course they do-- you're using the 'defaults' option, which
implies (among other things) 'noexec'-- which means scripts may not be
run (no executables may be run) from the partition. You might want to
add the 'exec' option *after* the 'defaults' option (so that it
overrides the 'noexec' included by 'defaults', if you put 'exec' before
defaults, the 'noexec' witll override the exlplicit 'exec', which is not
what you want).

Also not quite sure what is the usefulness of 'umask=000', since that
just says leave the umask as it is by default rather than changing it
in any way (umask removes permissions from the default settings, which
in this case would be something like rw (root), r (root), and r
(others), because the default permissions of 777 and 666 have been
changed by use of the 'defaults' option). You would probably do better
to 1) set the uid= and/or gid= options to give users some ownership
rights; 2) change the permissions of the mount point itself to give
users some ownership rights; and 3) set an appropriate umask to block
rights of others (I was always fond of 007-- all rights for owner who
was me, all rights for group which was a custom group to which samba
users belonged and no rights whatsoever for others I don't know who
these 'others' are, but I don't like em ;-) .

You probably want to read 'man mount', but I also wrote a tutorial that
discusses managing shared partitions of this nature:

http://www.shell-shocked.org/article.php?id=230 (:: Shell-Shocked ::
Tutorial: Multiple Linux Distros).

Scroll down to The fast explanation of fstab entries for a 'how-tolet'
on a successful /etc/fstab entry for vfat partitions.


HTH,
Holly
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[gentoo-user] Udev doubt

2005-06-19 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Hi All, sorry by the dumb question, but , I belive I am using udev, my
kernel is set, my grub is configured to nodevfs , but I got tousends
of devices on /dev  when I see udev on gentoo instalation disk it
has only my devices on /dev, shouldn't this be happening now ... in my
computar  if so , what I mabe done wrong ?

Thanks, Allan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev doubt

2005-06-19 Thread Simon Maynard
Check that RC_DEVICE_TARBALL is set to no in /etc/conf.d/rc

I think having this set to yes can cause the behaviour you are seeing.

On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 12:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
 Hi All, sorry by the dumb question, but , I belive I am using udev, my
 kernel is set, my grub is configured to nodevfs , but I got tousends
 of devices on /dev  when I see udev on gentoo instalation disk it
 has only my devices on /dev, shouldn't this be happening now ... in my
 computar  if so , what I mabe done wrong ?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to build a Minimal Gentoo

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/19/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  Thanks for all the help guys.. I've managed to get a minimal gentoo
  running.
 
  right now, the space stands at
 
  total size = 53.6MB
  ext3 journal = 33MB
  kernel = 2.1MB (compiled with uclibc)
  kernel-modules=9.5MB
 
 Could you describe how you did it?
 

I'd be interested also. Hey, you could even make an iso image
available and we could try it out ourselves.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Udev doubt

2005-06-19 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Thank you simon, it helped a lot now, at least te hardware is ok... :)
now, sorry for the ignorance, It just remain a lot of tty pty ... is
this right ?

On 6/19/05, Simon Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check that RC_DEVICE_TARBALL is set to no in /etc/conf.d/rc
 
 I think having this set to yes can cause the behaviour you are seeing.
 
 On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 12:04 -0300, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
  Hi All, sorry by the dumb question, but , I belive I am using udev, my
  kernel is set, my grub is configured to nodevfs , but I got tousends
  of devices on /dev  when I see udev on gentoo instalation disk it
  has only my devices on /dev, shouldn't this be happening now ... in my
  computar  if so , what I mabe done wrong ?
 
  Thanks, Allan
 
 
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[gentoo-user] fglrx error messages

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
I'm seeing the following after booting a new machine. Any ideas what I
might have messed up when building it? (If anything) The machine seems
to be working fine. MythTV is all it runs and it's running fine so
far. ati-drivers was emerged after building the kernel. Kernel config
issue? the hardware is a Pundit-R which uses an ATI chipset.


Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies,
Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 144 MBytes.
ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:05.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
[fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.12.10 [Apr  4 2005] on minor 0
[fglrx] AGP detected, AgpState   = 0x (hardware caps of chipset)
[fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5756 using kernel context 0
myth12 ~ #


Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2?

2005-06-19 Thread Hareesh Nagarajan
Hi,

Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2 (x86
architecture)? I just can't seem to remember the name of the site.

Thanks,

Hareesh

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-panel

2005-06-19 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

 Yes, I've noticed that too. Seems to be happening here with gnome 2.10.
 Previous versions seem to be fine. Is something not loading when gnome
 comes up? or is it taking forever reading the menu config, etc?


 On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 01:23 +, LostSon wrote:
 Hello
  Has anyone noticed quite a delay after starting gnome after the panel
 comes up and i go to click on the menu it takes about 10 seconds for the
 menu to come up. After the initial clicking its fine but that first time
 takes forever. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me, thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] drm and dri problem

2005-06-19 Thread Luigi Pinna
Alle 17:19, sabato 18 giugno 2005, Holly Bostick ha scritto:
 I can see why you don't understand-- everything looks right, and I
 thought ATI fixed the problems with ut in this release. Maybe this is
 specific to UT somehow. Do other OpenGL apps work correctly for the
 user?

 I'll go see if anyone else seems to be reporting this. People
 complain a lot about UT performance on the Rage3D Linux Drivers
 forum, but I haven't tried to install my bf's copy (he doesn't play
 it, and neither do I, so it's not on my list of games I see if they
 work so I can convince him to switch to Linux), so I don't know
 anything about it.

 Holly

I found the problem!
I had :
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root40 18 giu 14:39 shm
but I must be:
drwxrwxrwt  2 root root40 18 giu 14:39 shm

now all works good!!!
Thanks a lot!!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-panel

2005-06-19 Thread Holly Bostick
Janne Johansson schreef:
 On su, 2005-06-19 at 20:24 +0200, Antonio Coralles wrote:
 Has anyone noticed quite a delay after starting gnome after the panel
comes up and i go to click on the menu it takes about 10 seconds for the
menu to come up. After the initial clicking its fine but that first time
takes forever. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me, thanks.

If there are two or three people more who have this problem, i'm going
to file a bug ... So if this sounds familiar to you please reply to this
mail ...
 
 
 I'm experiencing this also.
 

Ditto.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Bill Witherspoon wrote:

* Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-19 06:27:04 -0700]:

  

On 6/19/05, Bill Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi folks,

Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.

I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
subsequently growisofs all return the same error:

localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.
:-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error

The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.

It appears to me that the drive is read-only?

Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.
TIA,
Bill
  

Bill,
   If you don't get an answer fairly quickly then I'd suggest taking
this info to the k3b list. Sebastian is usually pretty responsive to
drive specific hardware problems.

Good luck,
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Thanks Mark,
Your reply made me dig into the k3b archives, where I did see a couple
of folks with the same issue, but alas no solutions posted. I've
subscribed to their list and will post the problem there.

Bill

  

Hi,
Have the same DVD-RW and it works with k3b.
Looking in the messages, think about some things:
1.Check if you have support for your mobo's chipset in kernel (LBA-message).
2.Make sure to enable 'DMA' for your drives (see hdparm) WFM. For me
speedx2 = speed-6.
Since i switched to DVD-RW can't write ISO-images using cdrecord
(CLI), but haven't investigated much.
Also haven't tried growisofs' from the command line. It must work as
k3b is a wrapper IMHO.
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[gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
Recently saw that i have a udev-tarball enabled setup and think of
disabling it.
Wanna make a backup of the tarball before doing that, but can't find
where it is located/saved.
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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Zac Medico
Rumen Yotov wrote:
 Hi,
 Recently saw that i have a udev-tarball enabled setup and think of
 disabling it.
 Wanna make a backup of the tarball before doing that, but can't find
 where it is located/saved.
 TIA. Rumen

/lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 is hard coded in /sbin/rc

# Actually get udev rolling
ebegin Configuring system to use udev
if [[ ${RC_DEVICE_TARBALL} = yes ]]  [[ -s /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 
]]
then
einfo   Populating /dev with device nodes ...
try tar -jxpf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 -C /dev
fi
populate_udev


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Re: [gentoo-user] Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2?

2005-06-19 Thread Peter Gordon
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 10:28 -0700, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote:
 Where can I download the gentoo binary for Ximian Evolution 2 (x86
 architecture)? I just can't seem to remember the name of the site.
Gentoo is a source-based distribution. I believe your favorite download
mirror should have package CDs with precompiled binaries but I don't
know for certain. To install it from source is simple with Portage:

# emerge mail-client/evolution

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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/19/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rumen Yotov wrote:
  Hi,
  Recently saw that i have a udev-tarball enabled setup and think of
  disabling it.
  Wanna make a backup of the tarball before doing that, but can't find
  where it is located/saved.
  TIA. Rumen
 
 /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 is hard coded in /sbin/rc
 
 # Actually get udev rolling
 ebegin Configuring system to use udev
 if [[ ${RC_DEVICE_TARBALL} = yes ]]  [[ -s 
 /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 ]]
 then
 einfo   Populating /dev with device nodes ...
 try tar -jxpf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 -C /dev
 fi
 populate_udev
 
 
 Zac

Thanks Zac. So this explains why if I set RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=no that
I don't use it.

My question is how do the devices get created if TARBALL=no? Is it
only the 50-udev.rules file that's responsible? I'm trying to debug
why none of my machines have the lirc/lirc0 devices like the Gentoo
Wiki's say they should.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Daniel Drake
Mark Knecht wrote:
 My question is how do the devices get created if TARBALL=no? Is it
 only the 50-udev.rules file that's responsible?

The whole tarball thing is strongly against the ideas behind udev. udev reads
information  about your hardware from /sys (and listens for and creates nodes
based on that.

If you don't rely on the tarball stuff, it's perfectly safe to do:
# rm -rf /dev/*
# ls /dev # almost empty
# udevstart
# ls /dev # everything is back

 I'm trying to debug
 why none of my machines have the lirc/lirc0 devices like the Gentoo
 Wiki's say they should.

You need to load the lirc module first. But there is always the possibility
that the lirc module is not sysfs-aware, in which case it won't put anything
in /sys, so udev won't know anything about it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread daniel
On June 19, 2005 08:51 am, Bill Witherspoon wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
 this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.

 I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
 time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
 and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
 subsequently growisofs all return the same error:

 localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
 Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
 /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.

 :-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
 :-( write failed: Input/output error

 The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
 have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.

 It appears to me that the drive is read-only?

 Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.

i had similar issues just *reading* a dvd as a normal user.  turns out my dvd 
drive (/dev/hda) had permissions of root:disk 660 and my normal user wasn't 
in the disk group.  this may be your case as well?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad NFS performance

2005-06-19 Thread daniel
On June 19, 2005 03:43 am, Andreas Karlsson wrote:
 On Sunday 19 June 2005 00.45, Scott Tiret wrote:
  On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 00:22 +0200, Andreas Karlsson wrote:
   Hello all,
  
   I am getting quite sick of my self and NFS. Ive read many posts at
   forums.gentoo.org, Ive googled, Ive tested and tested and tested...
   No help could be found.
 
  I had similar performance issues with NFS.  Tried all the different NSF
  options.  Turned out to be a simple networking problem.  One of the
  hosts on my switched 100Mb/s network was actually running half-duplex.
  Try ifconfig to see if there are any errors on each of the network
  cards.  Also try mii-diag to see what the auto-negotiation messages are
  saying.  You can then set speed and duplex using mii-tool if you need
  to.  You might also check the cables just to be sure.

 Thanks for the reply.
 I forgot to include that information. All cards are running at 100mbit,
 full duplex, with auto negotiation on, according to ethtool.
 And as I get good performance out of netperf I dont really see this as a
 problem on a harware level. Neither are ifconfig reporting any
 error-packets or droped packets.

make sure you've got the async option set on the share.  sync is now the 
default and it's slower to transfer.

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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi Daniel. I've jsut been reading your primer on UDEV. Thanks.

On 6/19/05, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Knecht wrote:
  My question is how do the devices get created if TARBALL=no? Is it
  only the 50-udev.rules file that's responsible?
 
 The whole tarball thing is strongly against the ideas behind udev. 

Yes, normally I've been using TARBALL=no and jsut letting the system
create the devices. That has worked so far, but it's not working for
this IR receiver that's part of lirc/mythtv.

 udev reads
 information  about your hardware from /sys (and listens for and creates nodes
 based on that.
 
 If you don't rely on the tarball stuff, it's perfectly safe to do:
 # rm -rf /dev/*
 # ls /dev # almost empty
 # udevstart
 # ls /dev # everything is back

Humm...almost everything. ;-) The /dev/lircd entry I had was not
recreated. Maybe that's a sign of that stuff not being set up right?
It was recreated after zapping and starting the lircd daemon again:

myth12 ~ # /etc/init.d/lircd start
 * Starting lircd ... [ ok ]
myth12 ~ # ls -al /dev/lirc*
srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Jun 19 15:21 /dev/lircd
myth12 ~ #

 
  I'm trying to debug
  why none of my machines have the lirc/lirc0 devices like the Gentoo
  Wiki's say they should.
 
 You need to load the lirc module first. But there is always the possibility
 that the lirc module is not sysfs-aware, in which case it won't put anything
 in /sys, so udev won't know anything about it.

Yes, the modules (I hope the right ones) are loaded:

myth12 ~ # lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
fglrx 240380  0
agpgart28968  1 fglrx
snd_usb_audio  63680  0
snd_usb_lib11520  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_rawmidi20640  1 snd_usb_lib
snd_atiixp 17120  0
snd_ac97_codec 75384  1 snd_atiixp
lirc_i2c8836  0
i2c_core   18704  1 lirc_i2c
lirc_dev   13156  1 lirc_i2c
myth12 ~ #

The device is visible in /proc/bus/usb/devices:

T:  Bus=03 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=0e9c ProdID= Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=Streamzap, Inc.
S:  Product=Streamzap Remote Control
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr= 50mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=ff Prot=ff Driver=(none)
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=10ms

But I do not understand yet how this device is told to use the lirc
driver. I'll keep studying, and thanks very much for the response. I'm
interested in udev. It's pretty nice.

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] fglrx error messages

2005-06-19 Thread Rafael Fernández López
Mark Knecht wrote:

I'm seeing the following after booting a new machine. Any ideas what I
might have messed up when building it? (If anything) The machine seems
to be working fine. MythTV is all it runs and it's running fine so
far. ati-drivers was emerged after building the kernel. Kernel config
issue? the hardware is a Pundit-R which uses an ATI chipset.


Linux agpgart interface v0.100 (c) Dave Jones
fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies,
Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 144 MBytes.
ACPI: PCI interrupt :01:05.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
[fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 8.12.10 [Apr  4 2005] on minor 0
[fglrx] AGP detected, AgpState   = 0x (hardware caps of chipset)
[fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* Process 5756 using kernel context 0
myth12 ~ #


Thanks,
Mark

  

What kernel version are you using ?

Have your kernel support for DRI ? If it has, recompile your kernel
without it.

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[gentoo-user] /dev permissions

2005-06-19 Thread Qv6

Hello:

Just looked under /dev and observed that the ownership of all the 
entries are root:root with mostly 555 permissions. Is this the default 
or do I have to change anything? Here's a snip from ls -l /dev

lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root 10 Jun 17 06:55 adsp - sound/adsp
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root 12 Jun 17 06:55 agpgart - misc/agpgart
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root 11 Jun 17 06:55 audio - sound/audio
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root 13 Jun 17 06:55 cdrom - cdroms/cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root 0 Dec 31  1969 cdroms
 
drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root  0 Dec 31  1969 discs
drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root  0 Jun 17 06:55 dri
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root  9 Jun 17 06:55 dsp - sound/dsp
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root   root  8 Jun 17 06:55 dvd - /dev/hdc

drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root  0 Dec 31  1969 floppy

drwxr-xr-x  1 root   root  0 Dec 31  1969 usb

Is this the reason why I cannot play dvd movies?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with DVD burner [Slightly OT]

2005-06-19 Thread Bill Witherspoon
* Rumen Yotov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-19 22:27:21 +0300]:

 Bill Witherspoon wrote:
 
 * Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-19 06:27:04 -0700]:
 
   
 
 On 6/19/05, Bill Witherspoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi folks,
 
 Not strictly speaking a Gentoo problem, but I'm completely flumoxed on
 this one so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
 I've purchased a Lite-On SOHW-1673s DVD burner and am having a heck of
 time getting anything burnt ;-). My system sees the drive fine as hdc,
 and dvd+rw-media returns the correct output (below). However k3b and
 subsequently growisofs all return the same error:
 
 localhost myth # growisofs -Z /dev/hdc dvdrw/
 Executing 'mkisofs dvdrw/ | builtin_dd of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
 /dev/hdc: Current Write Speed is 3.3x1385KBps.
 :-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
 :-( write failed: Input/output error
 
 The drive spins up and down 3 times before the error message appears. I
 have done some googling, and have already turned off scsi-emulation.
 
 It appears to me that the drive is read-only?
 
 Any thoughts? My dvd+rw-mediainfo is below.
 TIA,
 Bill
   
 
 Bill,
If you don't get an answer fairly quickly then I'd suggest taking
 this info to the k3b list. Sebastian is usually pretty responsive to
 drive specific hardware problems.
 
 Good luck,
 Mark
 
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 Thanks Mark,
 Your reply made me dig into the k3b archives, where I did see a couple
 of folks with the same issue, but alas no solutions posted. I've
 subscribed to their list and will post the problem there.
 
 Bill
 
   
 
 Hi,
 Have the same DVD-RW and it works with k3b.
 Looking in the messages, think about some things:
 1.Check if you have support for your mobo's chipset in kernel (LBA-message).
 2.Make sure to enable 'DMA' for your drives (see hdparm) WFM. For me
 speedx2 = speed-6.
 Since i switched to DVD-RW can't write ISO-images using cdrecord
 (CLI), but haven't investigated much.
 Also haven't tried growisofs' from the command line. It must work as
 k3b is a wrapper IMHO.
 HTH. Rumen


Thanks for verifying that the DVD-RW works (I was worried about that!).
My motherboard is an Asus A7V, with a Promise PDC20265 ide controller
which I do have compied into the kernel. I have 3 HDDs plugged in, along
with a CD-RW - all work fine.

The thing that is a bit strange to me - It does spin the drive up at the
appropriate time, but can't seem to write it. In the other thread I make
mention that the permissions are r-x across the board, but that I can't
seem to change that (even as root)?

Also, you are correct k3b does wrap growisofs. There is actually a bug
logged on kde devel site where the k3b developer (Sebastian?) notes the
same bug, but points out that it's not a k3b issue, it's a growisofs
issue.

I did email the developer of growisofs, but haven't heard anything as
yet.

Again, my suspicion is that its ME and not any of the programs involved!

Thanks for the help,
Bill.
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Re: [gentoo-user] fbsplash no longer updating the bar

2005-06-19 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 01:57 -0700, Daevid Vincent wrote:
 I noticed recently that the bar that moves across the screen on my
 splash screen is no longer doing it... 
 
 
 same kernel i'm fairly certian. i don't generally run the latest
 kernels.
 i do run a mixed ~x86 system. and i saw that i got an update to
 
 *  media-gfx/splashutils
   Latest version available: 1.1.9.6-r1
   Latest version installed: 1.1.9.6-r1
 
 did something change?

I think so.  I noticed gentoo-sources has moved to 2.6.12.  Reading the
changelog for gentoo-sources:

Initial 2.6.12 release. Features inotify 0.23-12 and fbsplash 0.9.2-r3.
Be aware that you need udev-058 or newer, and splashutils-1.1.9.6 or
newer (only if you use fbsplash) to avoid potential problems. Speakup is
missing from this release but will return soon.

so obviously there are some fbsplash changes, and no doubt if
gentoo-sources-2.6.12 requires splashutils-1.1.9.6 or greater, then
perhaps the converse is also true.

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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/19/05, Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 
  I'm trying to debug
  why none of my machines have the lirc/lirc0 devices like the Gentoo
  Wiki's say they should.
 
 You need to load the lirc module first. But there is always the possibility
 that the lirc module is not sysfs-aware, in which case it won't put anything
 in /sys, so udev won't know anything about it.
 
 Daniel

Daniel,
   I found it. The Gentoo Wiki for MythTV shows how to build in
support for a remote that I don't use. They don't mention that this
one line should be change, nor do they suggest where to get the info
to know how to change it. Once I noticed a message while lirc was
building that said something about looking at the ebuild source to see
what remotes it supported it became clear I needed to change this one
line in the instructions to choose my remote. This built a different
driver which, when loaded, created all the /dev devices and I now have
a working remote.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-19 Thread maxim wexler
 So it look like we have to go back to trying to get
 the CD booting to
 work.  Copy the /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito to
 the boot/grub
 directory on the ISO image, re-run the mkisofs
 command we used before,
 and burn the resulting ISO to a CD.

Before that. I used emerge --buildpkgonly from
k6/gentoo to get a binary of pppconfig so now I can
use pon/poff from my sempron/gentoo2005.0 box. I'm 
hoping that will give me some sort of advantage to
solving this boot problem over moving files between
machines but I don't know what that might be. 



 
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[gentoo-user] too many devs in /dev since udev

2005-06-19 Thread Sven Köhler
Hi,

i liked the idea of having very few devices in /dev. Since i installed
udev, i got plenty of them. AFAIK, the deives are saved on shutdown and
restored on boot. How can start my gentoo with an empty /dev directory
which is re-populated by udev?

Thx
  Sven


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Re: [gentoo-user] too many devs in /dev since udev

2005-06-19 Thread Brett I. Holcomb

Try setting the RC_DEVICE_TARBALL=yes to no in /etc/conf.d/rc.


On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, [ISO-8859-15] Sven Köhler wrote:


Hi,

i liked the idea of having very few devices in /dev. Since i installed
udev, i got plenty of them. AFAIK, the deives are saved on shutdown and
restored on boot. How can start my gentoo with an empty /dev directory
which is re-populated by udev?

Thx
 Sven



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Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to build a Minimal Gentoo

2005-06-19 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 09:31 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 6/19/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, 19 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
  
   Thanks for all the help guys.. I've managed to get a minimal gentoo
   running.
  
   right now, the space stands at
  
   total size = 53.6MB
   ext3 journal = 33MB
   kernel = 2.1MB (compiled with uclibc)
   kernel-modules=9.5MB
  
  Could you describe how you did it?
  

(Oops.. the kernel and modules are NOT compiled with uclibc and not as
stated previously.)

Well, I just followed the instructions on bulah.com

though there were some obstacles which I'm still trying to get right.
(for one, modules doesn't load, dropbear doesn't start, no network etc..
in short, it's still in-progress :0

 I'd be interested also. Hey, you could even make an iso image
 available and we could try it out ourselves.

du -chs /mnt/data/devel/MINIME/
23M total

7.6M MINIME-gentoo.tar.bz2

If anyone really wants to play with it. I can send you the tar.bz2 file.
but it currently does nothing other than boots and drops you into a
prompt. (i do have the whole devel fs at ~44MB, this is the one which u
can use to emerge stuffs.)

It does Absolutely NOTHING right now. I'm still working on it. :-)

Let me know.. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] too many devs in /dev since udev

2005-06-19 Thread William Kenworthy
The problem with this is udev doesnt know about a lot of devices.  I
cant see the sense of trying to replace a simple makdev when needed
while having a large directory of nodes (that dont take up any space)
versus using often flaky, complex and problematic utilities like devfs
and udev where you have to do a fair bit of reading, ask on mail lists
and sacrifice chickens to get your new bluetooth dongle working!

Wheres the gain? - I certainly have had my share of pain (bluetooth,
cdroms, dvd's, ...) with both udev and devfs - devfs does seem less
problematic but I guess thats because its older.  Overall, I find myself
wishing for the old system ...

BillK

On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 04:07 +0200, Sven Khler wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i liked the idea of having very few devices in /dev. Since i installed
 udev, i got plenty of them. AFAIK, the deives are saved on shutdown and
 restored on boot. How can start my gentoo with an empty /dev directory
 which is re-populated by udev?
 
 Thx
   Sven
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[gentoo-user] PCMCIA Laptop problems

2005-06-19 Thread Ian K
Hey Again,
Im not sure, but I think Linux is having issues with my PCMCIA cardbus.
Cardmgr works, and it 'watches 1 socket' quite nicely, (at bootup).

Here is the lspci:
*Code:*

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Host Bridge (rev 01)
:00:00.1 Multimedia Audio Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX AC'97
Audio Controller
:00:02.0 VGA Compatible Controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM710
LynxEM (rev a3)
:00:03.0 Cardbus Bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 80)
:00:07.0 ISA Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX ISA Bridge (rev 01)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp 82440MX EIDE Controller
:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82440MX USB Universal Host
Controller
:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82440MX Power Management Controller
:00:09.0 Communication Controller: 3Com Corporation MINI PCI type 3B
Data Fax Modem



I have installed ndiswrapper and the appropriate drivers for my Wireless
LAN PCMCIA card,
(DLink Airplus DWL-650+) and when I type ndiswrappre -l, (lists the
drivers available)
It says (in a nutshell) the driver is working. It makes no mention as
its supposed to about
the card being present. Im thinking maybe I did not compile my kernel
with the correct options
for my PCMCIA slot(?), and if someone who has this configuration working
could offer some
hints as to how to configure the kernel properly, Id be very grateful.

It is also worth noting, that another card (3Com LAN card), which I know
works on a different laptop, (under the Gentoo install bootdisk) is not
detected on this notebook computer.
Thanks!!!
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] where to find udev tarball

2005-06-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Zac Medico wrote:

Rumen Yotov wrote:
  

Hi,
Recently saw that i have a udev-tarball enabled setup and think of
disabling it.
Wanna make a backup of the tarball before doing that, but can't find
where it is located/saved.
TIA. Rumen



/lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 is hard coded in /sbin/rc

# Actually get udev rolling
ebegin Configuring system to use udev
if [[ ${RC_DEVICE_TARBALL} = yes ]]  [[ -s /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 
]]
then
   einfo   Populating /dev with device nodes ...
   try tar -jxpf /lib/udev-state/devices.tar.bz2 -C /dev
fi
populate_udev


Zac
  

Hi,
Thanks Zac.
Begun searching for it, stopped too early. Had done such a backup before
only that didn't record the location.
Rumen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-panel

2005-06-19 Thread Alan
Same here.  Not sure if this is a gnome issue or a gnome on gentoo
issue though.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 08:24:40PM +0200, Antonio Coralles wrote:
 gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:
 
  Yes, I've noticed that too. Seems to be happening here with gnome 2.10.
  Previous versions seem to be fine. Is something not loading when gnome
  comes up? or is it taking forever reading the menu config, etc?
 
 
  On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 01:23 +, LostSon wrote:
  Hello
   Has anyone noticed quite a delay after starting gnome after the panel
  comes up and i go to click on the menu it takes about 10 seconds for the
  menu to come up. After the initial clicking its fine but that first time
  takes forever. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me, thanks.
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 If there are two or three people more who have this problem, i'm going
 to file a bug ... So if this sounds familiar to you please reply to this
 mail ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome-panel

2005-06-19 Thread LostSon
 

On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 22:05 -0700, Alan wrote:
 Same here.  Not sure if this is a gnome issue or a gnome on gentoo
 issue though.

 I dont think its a gentoo issue i installed Ubuntu and Fedora this
weekend goofing around and in Fedora i had the same thing but in Ubuntu
it worked perfectly. Hopefully this will get resolved shortly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bad NFS performance

2005-06-19 Thread Alan
I'm getting pretty good performance with these settings:

fstab on nfs mount client:
naked:/mnt/share/ftp /mnt/nfs/ftp nfs 
defaults,auto,soft,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,bg,posix,nosuid,intr,tcp 0 0

exports on nfs mount host:
/mnt/share/ftp 
192.168.x.xxx(root_squash,rw,async,secure,nohide,anonuid=65534,anongid=65533)

Note that the NFS host has nfs over tcp enabled, which (AFAIK) makes it
much faster.  Barring that, if you do the same thing with SMB, are the
results similar?


On Sun, Jun 19, 2005 at 12:22:50AM +0200, Andreas Karlsson wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I am getting quite sick of my self and NFS. I?ve read many posts at 
 forums.gentoo.org, I?ve googled, I?ve tested and tested and tested... No help 
 could be found.
 
 The problem is not unique as it seems.  I have an r/w speed against the 
 NFS-server going from ~200kb/sec to 2mb/sec. I can?t predict or find a cause 
 for the strange speed changes. 
 
 I have three computers set up:
 
 Aquarius is my main work station (AMD XP 3200+, 1 gig ram)
 Leo is my file server (AMD 1700+, 630 meg ram)
 Aries is for TV-out (AMD 1700+, 512 meg ram)
 
 All connected via a switched 100mbit network. All have 100mbit NICs.
 
 Netperf is telling me this:
 aquarius hermes # netperf -H leo
 TCP STREAM TEST to leo
 Recv   SendSend
 Socket Socket  Message  Elapsed
 Size   SizeSize Time Throughput
 bytes  bytes   bytessecs.10^6bits/sec
 
  87380  16384  1638410.00  89.61
 
 And when I do the same from/to all others the results are quite the same. So, 
 no problem with the network.
 
 Next up NFS. 
 
 I have now tried so many different combinations at my /etc/fstab that I don?t 
 know what is up and down: It currently looks like this:
 
 
 aquarius hermes # cat /etc/fstab | grep nfs
 
 leo:/home/files /home/hermes/philez nfs  
 rw,users,auto,hard,intr,tcp,retrans=5,rsize=1024,wsize=1024
 
 
 I?ve tried rsize and wsize from 1024 up to 32768 (1 through 32 * 1024).  I?ve 
 tried it in combination with sync and async. Here I find async working best. 
 
 The file server (Leo) has a 120 gig HD with DMA enabled:
 
 leo linux # hdparm -t /dev/hdc
 
 /dev/hdc:
  Timing buffered disk reads:   88 MB in  3.02 seconds =  29.15 MB/sec
 
 So there should not be a I/O related problem either. 
 
 
 I also run Samba on it, and when I am in Windows, filetransfers are as 
 expected on 100mbit network (haven?t even mesured them as they work fine). 
 
 Can anyone please give me any hints or advices on how to proceed with this 
 problem? 
 
 Best regards,
 Andreas Karlsson



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