Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Jens Mayer
* On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote:
 Whooa.  I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest.

It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something. 
From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your conclusions. The hornets are 
now well rested. My apologies. ;-)

Regards,
Jens

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on PowerPC?

2005-07-02 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Yes, as long as it's not NuBus, but even that can be worked around. Check out
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1 and #gentoo-ppc
on Freenode.

Adrian Chelar wrote:
 Gentoo linux work on powerpc?

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[gentoo-user] 2.6.12 - hangs when exiting back to gdm

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Knecht
Has anyone else run into this? Can you cleanly log out of Gnome and
return to the gdm login screen? ssh'ing in doesn't show anything
obvious.

2.6.12-r2/P4/ATI 9200 Mobility

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on PowerPC?

2005-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 15:56:45 +0300, Adrian Chelar wrote:

 Gentoo linux work on powerpc?

Sure does, I'm running it on an iBook. There's a PPC installation handbook
and a gentoo-ppc mailing list.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Syncing data between servers

2005-07-02 Thread James Hiscock
 I've got all access but i can't change anything, the both servers are
 'snap aplience' it has a Linux version 2.4 on it, you administrate it by a
 webinterface, its got ssh, but no scp even no cron.
 Its 'forbidden' to install anything on it.
 You don't even get a root password even if you by it.
 I can export directories with nfs witch i have done and so a Gentoo server
 in the middle can sync the data between the two machines.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you use rsync or ssh from the
gentoo server in the middle, without using the NFS-mounted drives?
Something like:

rsync [EMAIL PROTECTED]:src [EMAIL PROTECTED]:dest

...and you can probably do the same with with scp. I don't think
either of them care if they're just  a man-in-the-middle...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok

2005-07-02 Thread Paul Nolan
On Thursday June 30 2005 1:46 am, Paul Nolan wrote:
 I would /really/ recommend switching to the amarok-svn ebuild (it's not an
 official package and I can't remember where I got it - try google). I'm not
 usually one for running CVS/SVN software (some programs segfault enough
 when they're supposedly stable), but I made an exception for this and
 wasn't disappointed (if anything, it's more stable than the 1.2.* versions
 and has a bunch of new features)

I knew as soon as I said that 'out loud' something would happen. Now it's 
started segfaulting on startup. Bollocks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output

2005-07-02 Thread James Hiscock
 Is there any way to *not* receive mail from specific cron jobs, while
 leaving the rest of the mails intact? I looked at man cron and man
 crontab, but they seemed to indicate that it's kind of an all-or-nothing
 deal.

It's not an all-or-nothing deal, depending on how you create the cron
job: instead of adding a script to
/etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,monthly} (where it _is_ an
all-or-nothing deal, because of the /etc/crontab entry that runs the
jobs), just add it to /etc/crontab, and redirect the output to
/dev/null for the jobs you don't want the output for, as was already
suggested.

...or, if you want the job to be run by a specific user, use crontab
-e to create a job schedule for a given user.

 What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail
 me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran
 successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. 

For this, you can do something like:

* * * * * echo somescriptsomewhere  /some/script/somewhere

That'd get you the name of the script (anything after echo) and all of
the output of /some/script/somewhere... and the way I've written that
crontab entry, the script would be run every minute of every day,
which probably isn't what you want. See man 5 crontab for info on
the file format. There's no need for a mail -s command in there at
all...

(one other suggestion, although I'm not sure it's going to be useful
for ya: you might want to add -q to your esync cron job [on the
update-eix part], so you don't get that annoying output at the end
when it's updating the cache... of course, that'll kill any output
from update-eix, so I'm not entirely sure how much that'll help...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update

2005-07-02 Thread James Hiscock
 PartitionMagic is the best for this, but at $70 it is a bit pricey.
 There may be free programs to do this, but I have no experience with them.

QTparted: open-source alternative to PQMagic, _and_ it's significantly
faster (e.g. resizing a 40GB NTFS partition to 10GB with PQMagic took
me an hour or two; with qtparted, it took about ten minutes) and less
error-prone (e.g. I've had qtparted fail many times, but only once was
it so catastrophic that I couldn't fix it easily; with PQMagic, if it
failed, I knew I was screwed...).

I've been using PartitionMagic since 4.x, and stumbled across QTparted
after having PQMagic 8 consistently wipe my entire 120GB drive at
startup - before I'd even done anything! The support folks didn't help
at all on that one, so I gave up on PQMagic (although they did give me
some help later that wasn't great, but got me on the right path to
fixing the problem I was having).

You can get a decent version of qtparted (assuming you don't care much
for English grammar) with the current Knoppix - which is pretty much
the only reason why I still use Knoppix. ;)

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[gentoo-user] Re: 2.6.12 - hangs when exiting back to gdm

2005-07-02 Thread Mark Knecht
This appears to be a known issue. Although my crash is a bit different
than others I get the same trace info in dmesg.

Caused by ati-drivers under 2.6.12. Don't do it I guess.

Cheers,
Mark

On 7/2/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone else run into this? Can you cleanly log out of Gnome and
 return to the gdm login screen? ssh'ing in doesn't show anything
 obvious.
 
 2.6.12-r2/P4/ATI 9200 Mobility
 
 Thanks,
 Mark


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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote:

 I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever.  Just, well, if you
 get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed.


Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that 
ATI is able to make any decent drivers EVER.

So, buying a card and waiting that ATI will release working drivers is.. hm.. 
hopeless ;) 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Tim Igoe


Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote:
 
 
I'm sure that ATI will come through, or, whatever.  Just, well, if you
get one RIGHT NOW, NEW, you'll be dissapointed.

 
 
 Well, ATI driver sucked 10 years ago, they suck today... I don't think that 
 ATI is able to make any decent drivers EVER.

Equally their Windows (ick) drivers sucked not so long back - yet now
they are much better. (Or were, i can't say i like the new .NET control
thingy)

 So, buying a card and waiting that ATI will release working drivers is.. hm.. 
 hopeless ;) 

The recent versions of the drivers have been much better than the older
ones. I'm sure things will improve over time. But in the graphics
industry time is something that you don't have - if you buy a card you
want it to work there and then.

Maybe if Linux becomes more mainstream or used in offices more then
perhaps they might improve the efforts towards the Linux drivers.

I'm happy with them at the moment, yes there are things that could be
improved - but aren't there always? :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] the eagle has landed!!!

2005-07-02 Thread Zac Medico
maxim wexler wrote:
 Yee-hah!
 
 Finally, after about 6 weeks cursing and ripping out
 my few remaining hairs, I got gentoo to boot off the
 HD w/ NO errors! I'm s stoked! I'm using a 1.1Gig
 drive as /dev/hda for boot duty, which seems like a
 waste, but I'm sure I can find something to put on all
 that extra space.
 
 Only problem: WinXP won't boot. The lines in grub.conf
 are:
 
 title Window NT / Windows 95 boot menu
 rootnoverify (hd1,0)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1
 
 I'm sure that's correct: /dev/hdb, first partition.
 It mounts OK and all the files are intact, so ...
 
 Anyways, thanks to all for your support and
 encouragement.
 
 -mw
 

Congrats :-)

Maybe you can use grub's map feature to perform a virtual swap between your 
first and second hard drive.

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/DOS-Windows.html#DOS%2fWindows

title Window NT / Windows 95 boot menu
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-07-02 Thread Justin Hart
No prob.

On 7/2/05, Jens Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * On Saturday 02 July 2005 05:10, Justin Hart wrote:
  Whooa.  I didn't mean to stir a hornet's nest.
 
 It was a bit late last night, so I felt like having to rant about something.
 From a pure customers view, I'd agree with your conclusions. The hornets are
 now well rested. My apologies. ;-)
 
 Regards,
 Jens
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] the eagle has landed!!!

2005-07-02 Thread Michael Sullivan
You might already know this and have thought a way around it, but in my
experience (plus I've read this in several places) Microsoft Windows
will refuse to boot up unless it is taking up /dev/hda1.  It wants to be
the first OS on the primary hard drive so that it can believe that it is
the only one...

On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 17:55 -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
 Yee-hah!
 
 Finally, after about 6 weeks cursing and ripping out
 my few remaining hairs, I got gentoo to boot off the
 HD w/ NO errors! I'm s stoked! I'm using a 1.1Gig
 drive as /dev/hda for boot duty, which seems like a
 waste, but I'm sure I can find something to put on all
 that extra space.
 
 Only problem: WinXP won't boot. The lines in grub.conf
 are:
 
 title Window NT / Windows 95 boot menu
 rootnoverify (hd1,0)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1
 
 I'm sure that's correct: /dev/hdb, first partition.
 It mounts OK and all the files are intact, so ...
 
 Anyways, thanks to all for your support and
 encouragement.
 
 -mw
 
 
   
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] the eagle has landed!!!

2005-07-02 Thread Zac Medico
Michael Sullivan wrote:
  On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 17:55 -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
 
Yee-hah!

Finally, after about 6 weeks cursing and ripping out
my few remaining hairs, I got gentoo to boot off the
HD w/ NO errors! I'm s stoked! I'm using a 1.1Gig
drive as /dev/hda for boot duty, which seems like a
waste, but I'm sure I can find something to put on all
that extra space.

Only problem: WinXP won't boot. The lines in grub.conf
are:

title Window NT / Windows 95 boot menu
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

I'm sure that's correct: /dev/hdb, first partition.
It mounts OK and all the files are intact, so ...

Anyways, thanks to all for your support and
encouragement.

-mw


 You might already know this and have thought a way around it, but in my
 experience (plus I've read this in several places) Microsoft Windows
 will refuse to boot up unless it is taking up /dev/hda1.  It wants to be
 the first OS on the primary hard drive so that it can believe that it is
 the only one...

That's what I was thinking too.  Maybe grub's map command can circumvent this 
though.

Zac

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