Re: [gentoo-user] splash and kerne panic
John Dangler schreef: After emerging splashutils and doing - splash_geninitramfs -v -g /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2005.1-1024x768 -r 1024x768 livecd-2005.1 rc-update add splash default a reboot of the system produces – Kernel panic – not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0) Any input is appreciated. Everything else in the basic install is running great! John D I get a kernel panic when trying to use the livecd theme (any of them) as a silent splash, using it as a verbose splash gives another error, iirc (you still can't boot, though, as now that I think about it, it's because there's no 8bb picture found or something). The only splash theme that seems to work correctly, ime, is emergence. That seems to work in either silent (no progressbar, though), or verbose (which is how I use it). Sorry if emergence isn't your fave (it's not mine, but I haven't had the time to either hack the livecd theme or convert some bootsplash theme into working). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?
Nagatoro schreef: John Dangler wrote: doesn't do it, either. what else could I be missing? From my /boot/grub/grub.conf --- kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6.4 root=/dev/hda2\ video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=silent,theme:livecd-2005.0 CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 udev initrd (hd0,0)/splash --- In my experience, the livecd theme (all versions) is broken. Silent gives me a kernel panic, verbose halts, unable to find the 8bpp pix. Try emergence. That one seems to work. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to access mounted dir with non-root?
Am Freitag, 12. August 2005 17:33 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i've found that i could not access the mounted directory with non-root users. 1. i chown directories under /mnt to the user, but so long as i mount, the permission of the specific dir will be changed to drwx-- and owner changed to root automatically. Yes, of course. After mounting, the directory has the permissions of the _mounted_ filesystem, so you need to chown/chmod afterwards. However, that only works with filesystems that know about unix permission. 2. i try to use a mount option users, $ mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/win -o rw,users I guess you're trying to mount some Windows filesystem. See above, they don't know unix permissions. You have to use the uid option when mounting, see man mount for details. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpTuobBRsS02.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
Walter Dnes wrote: I'm running Gentoo (of course) with Blackbox as my WM. I got a digital camera several weeks ago, and am now playing around with 2590 x 1920 sized images in Gimp. My monitor can't go quite *THAT* high, but 1600 x 1200 (for that matter 1560 x 1170) is large enough for Gimp to display its toolbox menu plus an image window at 50% (1280 x 960) without any overlapping. My only complaint is that I can barely see the fonts at that resolution. I normally run at 1152 x 864 on a 19 CRT. I'd prefer to switch my web-browsing, etc to 1560 x 1170, but I simply can't read the text. For the time-being, I've created a second user account for myself. waltdnes (my regular account) surfs the web at 1152 x 864 on display :0, and user2 (how original) works with Gimp at 1560 x 1170 on display :1. How do I boost font size across the board so I can surf the web, and do spreadsheets, etc without having to squint at higher resolutions ? Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical resolution of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes. There is an X -dpi command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a DisplaySize directive that can go in your xorg.conf file. The xdpyinfo program will tell you the current dpi setting. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 01:19 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: alls the few packages you can't find in Gentoo, and putting them in /usr/local or /opt. Heck, I was doing the... Hi Walter, Exactly what I've started to do. Problem is, I'm only beginning to learn how to let Portage know that my manual install is there. Secondly, installing, say, Gnome 2.12 would be considered a major install with 9 trillion dependencies. Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle on Gentoo Reiserfs filesystem - Possible?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 06:54 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: Paul Hoy Gmail wrote: Hello, I'm confused about running Beagle on a Gentoo reiserfs filesystem. Gentoo provides a HOWTO Beagle (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beagle) and uses a reiserfs filesystem (included extended attributues) as an example throughout. However, the Beagle Web site states in its FAQ (http://www.beaglewiki.org/FAQ) that Beagle does not support Reiser4S: Reiser4 does not support the standard Linux extended attribute [...] Any leads, hints, suggestions, solutions, answers? Could it be the difference between reiserfs and reiser4 (ie version 3.6 vs 4)? -- Naga Naga, I think you're on to something. In my ignorance, I thought that reiser4 was some sort of typo, since I never heard of reiser4. Thanks! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle on Gentoo Reiserfs filesystem - Possible?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 08:00 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote: Paul Hoy Gmail wrote: Hello, I'm confused about running Beagle on a Gentoo reiserfs filesystem. Gentoo provides a HOWTO Beagle (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Beagle) and uses a reiserfs filesystem (included extended attributues) as an example throughout. However, the Beagle Web site states in its FAQ (http://www.beaglewiki.org/FAQ) that Beagle does not support Reiser4S: Reiser4 does not support the standard Linux extended attribute interfaces, but instead implements its own. If/when Reiser4 supports extended attributes, it will be supported. The Gentoo HOWTO wiki explains that a user should enable extended attributes for his or her filesystems, and shows how you can do so with Ext2. The author of the wiki says you can do the same with reiserfs, but I don't recall seeing the option in the kernel (when I configured it a couple of weeks ago). Finally, the Gentoo Wiki author adds the user_xattr option to the reiserfs entry in fstab. This suggests that reiserfs is supported. The fact that the option doesn't appear in the kernel, suggest that it's not. And, the fact that the Beagle Web site says reiserfs is not support Beagle also suggests that I can run Beagle on an reiserfs filesystem. Any leads, hints, suggestions, solutions, answers? Hi, Using reiserfsprogs-3.6.19 (reiser-3) and also have extended-attributes support in kernel-config (reiser-3). Haven't checked but think/remember that reiserfs-4 has it's own security/encryption things (in filesystem). IMO above wiki in for reiserfs-3 only and will work with it. Extended-attr. for reiserfs are under reiserfs-config. HTH. Rumen Hi Rumen, Can you expand on your statement, for reiserfs are under reiserfs-config? Is this a patch? Thanks, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 11:28:44PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical resolution of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes. There is an X -dpi command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a DisplaySize directive that can go in your xorg.conf file. The xdpyinfo But his stated aim is to increase font sizes, and use gimp at a higher resolution. Changing the DPI would mess up his expectations about gimp, as I understood them. He might as well stick to the lower resolution he prefers. I have a similar problem, due to a large monitor size coupled with 2304x1440 resolution. Font sizes for most X programs can be changed, including widow managers. Most of the web sites out there refuse to respect settings about font sizes put in browsers, though. It is annoying. Only thing I know to do is change zoom factors (and Firefox doesn't make that easy as far as I know: Opera did), squint and hope you don't ruin your eyes, or change X resolutions on the fly (Ctl-Alt-+, etc.). Web sites have really lowered my respect for graphic artists, which used to be quite high when I worked in the print medium. They don't seem to get how to design with relationships instead of exact numbers. Wierd to me that an artist doesn't understand using relationships. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where's the splash?
Holly Bostick wrote: Nagatoro schreef: In my experience, the livecd theme (all versions) is broken. Silent gives me a kernel panic, verbose halts, unable to find the 8bpp pix. Try emergence. That one seems to work. Don't like it :) The only problem with this one is that sometimes (!) it doesn't use the right resolution, but might be because I got it when 2005.0 was new? -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
George Garvey wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 11:28:44PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Although it seems like your X dpi setting should match the physical resolution of your monitor, it can be used to tweak font sizes. There is an X -dpi command line setting documented in the Xserver manpage and a DisplaySize directive that can go in your xorg.conf file. The xdpyinfo But his stated aim is to increase font sizes, and use gimp at a higher resolution. Changing the DPI would mess up his expectations about gimp, as I understood them. He might as well stick to the lower resolution he prefers. Yeah, I agree, changing the dpi is an ugly hack. ;-) It should match the physical resolution. I have a similar problem, due to a large monitor size coupled with 2304x1440 resolution. Font sizes for most X programs can be changed, including widow managers. Most of the web sites out there refuse to respect settings about font sizes put in browsers, though. It is annoying. Only thing I know to do is change zoom factors (and Firefox doesn't make that easy as far as I know: Opera did), squint and hope you don't ruin your eyes, or change X resolutions on the fly (Ctl-Alt-+, etc.). I know of a couple text size related extensions for firefox. http://www.splintered.co.uk/extensions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxcategory=Miscellaneousnumpg=10id=55 Web sites have really lowered my respect for graphic artists, which used to be quite high when I worked in the print medium. They don't seem to get how to design with relationships instead of exact numbers. Wierd to me that an artist doesn't understand using relationships. Overuse of pixel measurements is a sign of someone without a clue. ;-) Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and local LDAP server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is a problem that I've been facing for a while too ;-( Adding an LDAP server in Thunderbird, basically all Mozilla releases from 1.x.x. and up were giving the same result ..You add the LDAP server and it will not show up in the end.No errors or anything .. In my case the LDAP server in question is, Netscape's / Sun Iplanet.. I tested on different machines with different versions of X and window managers...all on gentoo..same result.. I ended up using Netscape 7.2 which did work .. Now I've recently installed the thunderbird-bin package from portage and guess what .. IT WORKS !!! I tried the source package ..and no luck.,..You would start to think that it is not compiled in building from source on gentoo. I did'nt look into it in detail though , so can't really make a statement on that.. Just my experience with LDAP / Mozilla... rgds, Peter Abraham Marín Pérez wrote: Hi everyone: I recently had some problems sharing my contacts with more than one mail client, so I decided to run a local LDAP server. I emerged OpenLDAP and checked it with phpLDAPadmin. I can browse server's database and add/remove/modify contacts with phpLDAPadmin, but I can't connect to it with a mail application; I tried both Evolution and Thunderbird and I got nothing. The one I care the most is Thunderbird. I tried to add a link to the server from the Address Book: FILE - NEW - LDAP DIRECTORY; I typed what I think is the right parameters and tried, but nothing happened. Am I doing anything wrong? Thanks, Abraham -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDAE1xqgi3rzPHNR8RApdDAJ0VPU9jfblrSdsbZNV5nTykLTLanACfcExv njEytzw6aGtuVEEFniI07Ek= =/qJD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:37:47 -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: ~arch is a little scary for me, since it's not in the stable branch. That's the whole point. ebuilds need to be thoroughly tested before being marked stable, so you need a testing branch. Without it, your stable branch would not be. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 12: Plastic glasses pgpIxPkOHipEm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:40:49 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: However, when I first used gentoo I was always the first in my LUG to have the latest kde, evolution, mplayer etc, and that was running x86 not ~x86. My perception is that gentoo is no longer first off the block with stable releases. I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch between two uses of the word stable. It can mean doesn't crash, but then most upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases don't. It can also mean not changing and this is what some people want from a distribution. If you run a server farm, you don't want to be continually upgrading just to get new features you don't need, you just want a system that works with timely security fixes. This is why Debian stable is so old, because for these people, old is good. Look at the situation with Firefox recently, where a new testing ebuild seemed to come out almost as soon as the previous one finished building. Great for those who want the latest and greatest, not so good for those who want a stable system. Gentoo gives you the choice, and even lets you pick and mix, so don't complain because you make an unsuitable choice. If you want the latest now, you need to use the testing packages, because the QA rules demand they remain in testing for a while. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Multitasking - screwing up several things at once pgpnk9U7PFUYg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 19:49:53 -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: What and where EXACTLY is gentoo behind any other release? openoffice [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# genlop openoffice-bin * app-office/openoffice-bin Wed Jul 20 15:29:36 2005 app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.118 Fri Aug 5 15:07:02 2005 app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.122 When was 1.9.122 released? -- Neil Bothwick What's another word for `Thesaurus'? pgpg1NNdg3mAd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:39:39 -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: No, I want it one way: to receive the latest stable releases. I didn't say anything about unstable or testing releases. testing/stable refers to the ebuild, not the upstream package. If you want the latest, install the ~arch ebuild and report any problems you find. That's how a community distribution works, you can't just expect to be given the latest package on the day of release without some effort on your part. The stable tree is for those who want tried and tested software and ebuild, version chasers should use testing. I run testing on three architectures with far less problems than I had with Mandrake Cooker (and I didn't have too many of those) so don't think that testing means unstable, unreliable or dodgy in some way. All it really means is unproven, and the only way for it to move from there to stable is for people to use it. -- Neil Bothwick Iraqi terrorist, Khay Rahnajet, didn't pay enough postage on a letter bomb. It came back with return to sender stamped on it. Forgetting it was the bomb, he opened it and was blown to bits. pgpBReaJs6ndt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle on Gentoo Reiserfs filesystem - Possible?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:43:05 -0400, Paul Hoy Gmail wrote: The Gentoo HOWTO wiki explains that a user should enable extended attributes for his or her filesystems, and shows how you can do so with Ext2. The author of the wiki says you can do the same with reiserfs, but I don't recall seeing the option in the kernel (when I configured it a couple of weeks ago). It's there, I used the Wiki HOWTO to install Beagle myself quite recently. Here are my reiserfs kernel settings [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep REIS /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL is not set # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY is not set Finally, the Gentoo Wiki author adds the user_xattr option to the reiserfs entry in fstab. This suggests that reiserfs is supported. The fact that the option doesn't appear in the kernel, suggest that it's not. And, the fact that the Beagle Web site says reiserfs is not support Beagle also suggests that I can run Beagle on an reiserfs filesystem. You can run Beagle on a reiser3 filesystem. -- Neil Bothwick Very funny Scotty.. now beam down my pants! pgpfKjpz0MbxS.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Gentoo Installer iso ?
Hi, I would like to take a look at the Gentoo installer introduced in the new 2005.1 version. From what I've read: snip This release also gives provides two additional x86 LiveCD images, in combination with the minimal and universal InstallCDs seen in previous releases: a new x86 LiveCD from the Hardened project, and the new x86 Installer LiveCD which features the first public release of the Gentoo Linux Installer, with both a GTK+ and dialog-based front-end. /snip I can't seem to see these two additional images on any of the mirrors, could someone please point them out to me ? Thanks. Nelis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Monday 15 August 2005 10:18, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 20:37:47 -0400, Paul Hoy wrote: ~arch is a little scary for me, since it's not in the stable branch. That's the whole point. ebuilds need to be thoroughly tested before being marked stable, so you need a testing branch. Without it, your stable branch would not be. I am a long time ~arch-only user and have/had less problems, than friends using the stable tree. Plus if there is a problem, my friends with stable will hit it too some days/week later - and I am there 'support', so it is good for me, if I already found a solution. It is not all about versions. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installer iso ?
Nelis Lamprecht wrote: I can't seem to see these two additional images on any of the mirrors, could someone please point them out to me ? http://your_favourite_mirror/experimental/x86/livecd/x86/livecd-x86-2005.1.iso Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Turning OFF font-hinting globally?
Oscar Carlsson wrote: Take a look at this file: /etc/fonts/local.conf You can turn on / off the font hinting / whatever from there. There are a few nice font tutorials over at gentoo-wiki.com http://gentoo-wiki.com if you're intrested. I can't help you with the GDM-part, tho :( On 8/14/05, *Chris Boot* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Call me a heretic, but I want to turn OFF font hinting globally in X, most particularly I'd like it off in GDM. I've turned it off in my own Gnome prefs, but tht obviously doesn't touch GDM. As an added bonus, can I change the fonts GDM uses? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bootc.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Ah thanks, I looked there but seemed to completely miss the font-related HOWTOs. Lovely stuff! Chris -- Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bootc.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch between two uses of the word stable. It can mean doesn't crash, but then most upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases don't. It can also mean not changing and this is what some people want from a distribution. I think there is a third meaning with gentoo, namely when the ebuild is working well enough - this is independent of whether the upstream package is stable.(although it no doubt helps if it is). So you can have kde make a release (stable in their view) but gentoo takes some considerable time to make ebuilds that work acceptably, before they are marked stable (eg x86 cf ~x86) If you run a server farm, you don't want to be continually upgrading just to get new features you don't need, you just want a system that works with timely security fixes. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:06:59 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: That's the whole point. ebuilds need to be thoroughly tested before being marked stable, so you need a testing branch. Without it, your stable branch would not be. I am a long time ~arch-only user and have/had less problems, than friends Spoken like a true geek :) using the stable tree. Plus if there is a problem, my friends with stable will hit it too some days/week later - and I am there 'support', so it is good for me, if I already found a solution. Oh, there's more :) I too have found ~arch to be extremely reliable. The main downside is the extra time spent on updates, which could be a killer in a production environment. -- Neil Bothwick Head: (n.) the part of a disk drive which detects sectors and decides which of the two possible values to return: 'lose a turn' or 'bankrupt.' pgpb8NP6ThgWJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Monday 15 August 2005 11:54, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:06:59 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: That's the whole point. ebuilds need to be thoroughly tested before being marked stable, so you need a testing branch. Without it, your stable branch would not be. I am a long time ~arch-only user and have/had less problems, than friends Spoken like a true geek :) using the stable tree. Plus if there is a problem, my friends with stable will hit it too some days/week later - and I am there 'support', so it is good for me, if I already found a solution. Oh, there's more :) I too have found ~arch to be extremely reliable. The main downside is the extra time spent on updates, which could be a killer in a production environment. oh yeah... and don't wait too long with the updates.. less than once every few days and the problems will pile up... from my humble experience, it is much less troublesome, to do daily updates, than weekly ones ;) So ~arch is only for people who don't mind having some compiling in the background running. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:50:00 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch between two uses of the word stable. It can mean doesn't crash, but then most upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases don't. It can also mean not changing and this is what some people want from a distribution. I think there is a third meaning with gentoo, namely when the ebuild is working well enough This is not another meaning but a different context. People keep assuming that the arch and ~arch alternatives refer to the package, when they only refer to the ebuild. - this is independent of whether the upstream package is stable.(although it no doubt helps if it is). So you can have kde make a release (stable in their view) but gentoo takes some considerable time to make ebuilds that work acceptably, before they are marked stable (eg x86 cf ~x86) It's not the time it takes to make them work acceptably, most of the KDE 3.4 ebuilds worked fine in the initial release. It is the time it takes to prove that they are suitable for marking stable. The stable ebuild is usually the same one that the ~arch users installed a month ago with no problems. Choosing between arch and ~arch is choosing whether you want someone else to test things for you or whether you are prepared to do some of the work yourself. -- Neil Bothwick Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben. Ist easy droppenpacket der routers und overloaden der backbone mit der spammen und der me-tooen. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das mausklicken sichtseeren keepen das bandwit-spewin hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das cursorblinken. pgptFjIweD2PM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:02:46 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: oh yeah... and don't wait too long with the updates.. less than once every few days and the problems will pile up... from my humble experience, it is much less troublesome, to do daily updates, than weekly ones ;) Start every day with a nice strong brew and emerge world -uavDN :) -- Neil Bothwick I couldn't possibly be wrong. I use an error correcting modem! pgpzf5fOn5Yqb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:02:46 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: oh yeah... and don't wait too long with the updates.. less than once every few days and the problems will pile up... from my humble experience, it is much less troublesome, to do daily updates, than weekly ones ;) Start every day with a nice strong brew and emerge world -uavDN :) I used to do it every day like that. Lately I've reduced the frequency to 3 or 4 days which seems to work pretty well. Actually, since I've reduced the frequency, it seems like I've encountered far fewer broken builds. It's a probability game. More syncs and updates means more ebuilds built and more chances for things to go wrong. Plus, you end up building every little revision that comes out, which is wasteful. Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Installer iso ?
Christoph Gysin wrote: Nelis Lamprecht wrote: I can't seem to see these two additional images on any of the mirrors, could someone please point them out to me ? http://your_favourite_mirror/experimental/x86/livecd/x86/livecd-x86-2005.1.iso Sorry, didn't read your whole post. The hardened one is in: http://your_favourite_mirror/experimental/x86/hardened/livecd/hardened-x86-2005.1.iso Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we really far behind? That's difficult to believe. For what packages specifically? Do you know how to unmask unstable packages (marked M or M~ at packages.gentoo.org)? ipsec-tools. The current upstream 'release' is 0.6, and 0.6.1 is at release candidate. The latest in portage is 0.5.2. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Graham Murray wrote: Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we really far behind? That's difficult to believe. For what packages specifically? Do you know how to unmask unstable packages (marked M or M~ at packages.gentoo.org)? ipsec-tools. The current upstream 'release' is 0.6, and 0.6.1 is at release candidate. The latest in portage is 0.5.2. That's unfortunate. I guess none of the gentoo devs happen to be particularly interested in a version bump on that package. Oh well, most of them probably don't get paid for the work they do on gentoo, so who can blame them? Having more developers would help, but there will always be packages suffering from lack of developer interest. Usually with version bumps, you can just copy the existing ebuild into your overlay and rename it (see portage docs for PORDIR_OVERLAY). There is a version bump ebuild for ipsec-tools attached to bug 100692: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100692 Zac -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
Hi guys, I've just downloaded, and installed Gentoo 2005.1 El Nino. I have some experiences with former Gentoo releases. But there is a little bug (maybe?) in el nino. A simple user cannot read the contets of the root ( / ) partition, she/he can only read and write in his/her own home directory. Is it a bug? Or is it done for some security reasons? Thanks in advance. Sorry for my bad English. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
Hi everybody. Is there any possibilities to re-emerge the whole system again? (not only updated packages, everything.) Thanks in advance -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
Gyuri wrote: Hi everybody. Is there any possibilities to re-emerge the whole system again? (not only updated packages, everything.) Thanks in advance You probably search for the --emptytree option. -- Stefan Kögl | Tel.: +43 664 44 24 894 Apetlonerstraße 11 | Mail: Stefan Kögl [EMAIL PROTECTED] A-7132 Frauenkirchen | ICQ: 115578877 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: bash details
Well this is an excellent resource, BUT it seems devoid of any examples where a custom device driver, say for the serial port on a linux system, inserted as a module or is part of the kernel, and the associate software that allows users to access some of the hardware(features) and not other hardware/firmware/kernel features(code), unless they are root, or have a special (encrypted)key or another form of chicanery (biometric generated key). If you are interested in device drivers and kernel stuff on linux, you might want to check out these fine books: Linux Device Drivers, 3rd ed. (available online) http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ Linux Kernel Development 2nd ed. http://rlove.org/kernel_book/ Marco -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 14:47 +0200, Gyuri wrote: Hi everybody. Is there any possibilities to re-emerge the whole system again? (not only updated packages, everything.) Thanks in advance $ man emerge for god sake people please RTFM before asking please. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:40:49 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: However, when I first used gentoo I was always the first in my LUG to have the latest kde, evolution, mplayer etc, and that was running x86 not ~x86. My perception is that gentoo is no longer first off the block with stable releases. I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch between two uses of the word stable. It can mean doesn't crash, but then most upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases don't. It can also mean not changing and this is what some people want from a distribution. If you run a server farm, you don't want to be continually upgrading just to get new features you don't need, you just want a system that works with timely security fixes. This is why Debian stable is so old, because for these people, old is good. Look at the situation with Firefox recently, where a new testing ebuild seemed to come out almost as soon as the previous one finished building. Great for those who want the latest and greatest, not so good for those who want a stable system. Gentoo gives you the choice, and even lets you pick and mix, so don't complain because you make an unsuitable choice. If you want the latest now, you need to use the testing packages, because the QA rules demand they remain in testing for a while. Thanks, Neil. Already have begun testing my luck with the testing packages. I'll see what happens. Thanks for your explanation of the testking packages. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle on Gentoo Reiserfs filesystem - Possible?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:41 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 23:43:05 -0400, Paul Hoy Gmail wrote: The Gentoo HOWTO wiki explains that a user should enable extended attributes for his or her filesystems, and shows how you can do so with Ext2. The author of the wiki says you can do the same with reiserfs, but I don't recall seeing the option in the kernel (when I configured it a couple of weeks ago). It's there, I used the Wiki HOWTO to install Beagle myself quite recently. Here are my reiserfs kernel settings [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# grep REIS /usr/src/linux/.config CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL is not set # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY is not set Finally, the Gentoo Wiki author adds the user_xattr option to the reiserfs entry in fstab. This suggests that reiserfs is supported. The fact that the option doesn't appear in the kernel, suggest that it's not. And, the fact that the Beagle Web site says reiserfs is not support Beagle also suggests that I can run Beagle on an reiserfs filesystem. You can run Beagle on a reiser3 filesystem. Thanks, Neil, for your settings. I'll modify my stuff after work this evening, and report back. Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
Gyuri wrote: Hi guys, I've just downloaded, and installed Gentoo 2005.1 El Nino. I have some experiences with former Gentoo releases. But there is a little bug (maybe?) in el nino. A simple user cannot read the contets of the root ( / ) partition, she/he can only read and write in his/her own home directory. Is it a bug? Or is it done for some security reasons? Thanks in advance. Sorry for my bad English. what does output ls -ld / ? mine is drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 496 Aug 15 01:01 / maybe there is something wrong with mount options in etc/fstab ? About reemerge the whole system you can use emerge -ea world, seldom this doesn't go good so the procedure I follow is something like this: create a bash script like this (it can be done better, but it's fast to write it this way ;): #! /bin/bash emerge -epv world emerge -e world \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst = chmod +x eworld nohup ./eworld tail -f nohup.out at the end grep ERROR.*fail nohup.out to see if something is gone wrong. this seem to be your first post, welcome here Gyuri -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 12:58:26AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: I know of a couple text size related extensions for firefox. http://www.splintered.co.uk/extensions/ https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxcategory=Miscellaneousnumpg=10id=55 Thanks for that. Turns out that Firefox 1.0.6 already has something to make it easier built-in, as far as I know. It is under view text size on the menu, and uses shortcut keys similar to X's. Sad thing is I remember noticing that a while back and then not using it :. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] K3B Woes
Kris Kerwin wrote: Hey all, Was trying to burn a DVD+R using K3b today. Ran into some problems: :-( unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted Can't find anything about this in either # man growisofs or # man mkisofs (which growisofs is a front-end to). Tried to simulate the burn, but K3b wouldn't let me select 'Simulate'. I believe that most of the technical information that is needed has been included below. If not, let me know. If you feel that this is a kernel-level problem, let me know if you would like me to include my kernel.conf file. Thank you for all of your help. Kris Kerwin -- Debugging Output- Devices --- HL-DT-ST DVD+RW GCA-4040N C108 (/dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd, ) at /mnt/cdrom [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD+R; DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM; DVD+RW; DVD+R; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R] System --- K3b Version: 0.11.24 KDE Version: 3.4.2 QT Version: 3.3.4 Kernel: 2.6.10-gentoo-r6 growisofs --- Using FAMILY_GUY___302___BRIAN000.MPG;1 for /Family Guy - 302 - Brian Does Hollywood.mpg (family guy - 302 - brian does hollywood.mpg) :-( unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted growisofs comand: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=2.4 -gui -graft-points -volid K3b data project -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.24 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher Kris Kerwin -preparer K3b - Version 0.11.24 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-kris/k3bkmx9sb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-kris/k3b7esw2b.tmp -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-kris/k3bhkywhc.tmp Hi, Not of much help but have you run k3bsetup first? Try running as root or check permissions. Have a working k3b for a long time w/o any problems (with both CD-R DVD+R) XFCE4. HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[gentoo-user] nxserver-personal install errors
Hello Everyone - I am trying to emerge nxserver-personal and I am getting the following error: /usr/lib/portage/bin/ebuild.sh: line 1495: nxserver-1.4_src_install: command not found. I have searched BGO and didn't not see any errors similar to this. Does anyone know what might be causing it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hiya all, Now I feel *really* stupid asking this, but for the life of me I cannot work it out. On two machines here at home I discovered that I can write as a particular normal user to the root partition (/). This also means I can rename /root to /root1 if I want (I just tried), and create / delete files on / too. The strange thing is this does not work for another account (wife's) on the same machine, which seems to have the same permissions. It's almost like / is getting mounted by user axllent here. Other partitions that get mounted do not work, just / I have checked fstab: /dev/hda3/ reiserfsnoatime 0 0 In /etc/lilo.conf (on one machine that uses it) I have: image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11.10 label=2.6.11.10 root=/dev/hda3 vga=791 read-only the permissions of /dev/hda3 are: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ll /dev/hda3 lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 33 Aug 15 18:55 /dev/hda3 - ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ll /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 brw--- 1 root root 3, 3 Jan 1 1970 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3 My groups for this user on both machines are: wheel audio cdrom games cdrw usb users portage wheel audio at usb users My wife who cannot write to / has wheel audio games usb users Using Reiserfs3. Does anyone have any idea what's causing this, and possibly how I can make / read-only? Greetings Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDAN6KCt0ZF9kLPvYRAueFAJ49kV9gKfRSPPPeVaOR+wexDHSBjACfXa5K pbfD7OBM9Aom2jO2rWFpxlo= =KeTJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-svn problems
On Friday 12 August 2005 04:51 pm, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: After running emerge -depclean -p I am trying to remove some old kde-svn builds I was playing around with some time back as I think that might be what is giving me KDE problems. I get this error. How do I get rid of that stuff? chiefnb ~ # emerge -C kspy-7 kde-base/kspy selected: 7 protected: none omitted: 3.4.1 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. Waiting 5 seconds before starting... (Control-C to abort)... Unmerging in: 5 4 3 2 1 Unmerging kde-base/kspy-7... No package files given... Grabbing a set. QA Notice: ECLASS 'qt3' inherited illegally in kde-base/kspy-7 QA Notice: ECLASS 'versionator' inherited illegally in kde-base/kspy-7 !!! error: qtver-from-kdever called with invalid parameter: 7, please report bug !!! FAILED prerm: 1 chiefnb ~ # Try again without the version number -7 or if you do tell it to unmerge with the version of the package name you need to include an = before the packagename, like this emerge -C =base/kspy-7 but I don't even see a version 7 in portage I think you have version 3.4.1. Just looks like a typo on your part including -7. -- Chris Linux 2.6.12-suspend2-r4 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 14:34:10 up 1 day, 23:31, 5 users, load average: 0.34, 0.35, 0.33 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] update portage vs update system
Hello everybody, At the end of a successful emerge --sync I was advised to update portage. It didn't say but I assumed it meant emerge update portage, which is what I did -- so far so good. But the manual only gives update system or world, no portage. Is emerge update portage the same thing as emerge update system? The stuff it's updating seem like system stuff: gcc, binutils, glib etc. -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Paul Hoy wrote: I really like Gentoo and I like that fact that it does a pretty good job at supporting Gnome, however, it's still behind other releases, such as Fedora, in terms of when it releases updates, etc. I find that hard to believe... Linux from Scratch looks very interesting: it appears to rapidly support the latest updates and it has decent documentation. Does any one have any perspectives on Linux from Scratch, from a Gentoo point-of-view? Does anyone wish to share a comparison of the two? The short version: LFS is for those who wishes to learn how to build an operating system from scratch. Or for control-freaks (like me). Or a combination of both... :-) Gentoo is a more practical version of LFS, where practical means less time-consuming, since you don't have to install each package (and it's dependencies) yourself and there are default settings/scripts that usually works ok with no/minor tweaking. Though you can install a package manager in LFS too (like rpm, apt, ports etc.). HTH Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] update portage vs update system
If you have run emerge world, portage would be automatically updated together with other packages. Fernando On 8/15/05, Christoph Daldrup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 08/15/2005 09:42 PM maxim wexler wrote: At the end of a successful emerge --sync I was advised to update portage. It didn't say but I assumed it meant emerge update portage, which is what I did -- so far so good. But the manual only gives update system or world, no portage.An emerge portage should be fine.Christoph--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
Daniel da Veiga wrote: Have you tried adding users to your fstab? Have you read the post before answering? The option you mean is 'user' not 'users'. But I can't imagine how this makes sense on / Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] saving iptables state
Hi, i have a home setup with portsentry also hooked to my box as firewall addition. now the problem my box is in another room and sometimes my colleague just turns it of (the brutal way just unplug it). now i was wondering if anyone had ideas about how to save the iptables state that portsentry creates. iptables-save doesn't do the trick for some reaseon thx Martin pgphtSI8XwtjR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc builds but won't install
On Monday August 15 2005 7:20 pm, darren kirby wrote: Hello, # chown -R root /usr/share/i18n/locales chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/tig_ER': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/translit_combining': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/wal_ET': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/translit_font': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/translit_wide': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/[EMAIL PROTECTED]': Permission denied chown: cannot access `/usr/share/i18n/locales/translit_small': Permission denied So these files are owned by someone more powerfull than root? I am really confused here... Yikes! I saw on eBay where someone had a perogi that Jesus had appeared on...maybe the same has happended to your hdd? ;) My guess is it's some sort of file corruption, if worse comes to worse, I guess you could just rename the locales directory so the new files can be installed? Caution...I know nothing, you've been warned. -jm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 22:00 +0200, Peter Karlsson wrote: On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Paul Hoy wrote: I really like Gentoo and I like that fact that it does a pretty good job at supporting Gnome, however, it's still behind other releases, such as Fedora, in terms of when it releases updates, etc. I find that hard to believe... I know, I would find it hard to believe too. But, just a simple comparision with the Fedora feedlist will show you that this is generally true. Coincidently, I received a bunch of Fedora 3 4 email updates earlier today, which shows that Gentoo is behind 23 out of 24 of the updates, some of them quite significantly. Most of them are KDE-related files, so normally I would have never noticed this. I'll keep the list for awhile in case anyone is interested in reviewing it. Of course, you can also view the Fedora feedlist website. I should also add that I noted about eight random and recent examples. Finally, other users who joined the thread have also provided examples. Linux from Scratch looks very interesting: it appears to rapidly support the latest updates and it has decent documentation. Does any one have any perspectives on Linux from Scratch, from a Gentoo point-of-view? Does anyone wish to share a comparison of the two? The short version: LFS is for those who wishes to learn how to build an operating system from scratch. Or for control-freaks (like me). Or a combination of both... :-) Gentoo is a more practical version of LFS, where practical means less time-consuming, since you don't have to install each package (and it's dependencies) yourself and there are default settings/scripts that usually works ok with no/minor tweaking. Though you can install a package manager in LFS too (like rpm, apt, ports etc.). I think I'm a combination of the two also. Thanks. HTH Best regards Peter K -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:45:48 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:21:52 +0200, Christoph Gysin wrote: Have you tried adding users to your fstab? Have you read the post before answering? The option you mean is 'user' not 'users'. But I can't imagine how this makes sense on / Actually, both user and users are valid mount options, with slightly different meanings. Neither is applicable here though, because / is mounted by root and both options only affect the ability to mount a device, not the permission to read/write it. What does ls -ld / show? after that id ralph id wife will show the differences between the accounts - perhaps ralph is in the root group? -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #10: Insufficient money spent in hardware. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:58:54 -0400 Paul Hoy wrote: Coincidently, I received a bunch of Fedora 3 4 email updates earlier today, which shows that Gentoo is behind 23 out of 24 of the updates, some of them quite significantly. Most of them are KDE-related files, That confirms my thoughts (which i posted yesterday). So can you clarify, is that 23/24 packages are behind on x86 or on ~x86? i.e. would an ~x86 gentoo be ahead or behind fedora? -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Install hangs while Scanning for ata_piix
Hi there, Trying to re-install Gentoo with the following drive config: 1 IDE 120GB HD on primary IDE channel as master 2 IDE CDROM drive on secondary IDE channel as master 3 S-ATA 160GB HD on first S-ATA channel 4 S-ATA 160GB HD on second S-ATA channel I want to install Gentoo on both S-ATA disks and use the IDE disk as a backup device (it already contains a backup so it may not be touched during installation). Made sure the BIOS recognised all drives and booted up the 2005.1 LiveCD. After the entering gentoo at the boot: prompt, the installation just hangs at Loading modules :: Scanning for ata_piix I also tried boot: gentoo doscsi, but to no avail. FWIW, this is on a A-Open AX4SG motherboard. Does anyone know how to get past the Scanning for ata_piix? Many thanks ps: If I specify boot: gentoo noload=ata_piix, setup continues but later hangs after * Coldplugging PCI devices ... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 13:11 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:58:54 -0400 Paul Hoy wrote: Coincidently, I received a bunch of Fedora 3 4 email updates earlier today, which shows that Gentoo is behind 23 out of 24 of the updates, some of them quite significantly. Most of them are KDE-related files, That confirms my thoughts (which i posted yesterday). So can you clarify, is that 23/24 packages are behind on x86 or on ~x86? i.e. would an ~x86 gentoo be ahead or behind fedora? My original email was 23/24 packages for x86. However, after reading your email, I compared the first 10 kde updates with ~x86 releases. It came out that Fedora was ahead 50 percent of the time or both distros shared the same release versions. In case I'm doing something incorrectly, you can also view the updates at http://fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ Of course, this new comparison is between testing releases and so-called stable Fedora releases. There is a Fedora extras/unstable list (Fedora Core 4 Testing Updates) for that, but I don't receive that one. It also should be noted that the updates I listed happen to be mostly for Fedora 3, not Fedora 4. I compared some Fedora 4 releases the other day and shared them with this list and Fedora was ahead 90 percent of the time (out of about 10 recent release comparisons). Finally, after doing a ~x86 compare, I noticed that fedora-announce-list is slow to announce updates as most of the actual updates took place around the beginning of August by Redhat people. Not sure why that is. Paul -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 05:24:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote
The question is precisely whether his X dpi matches his physical dpi.
I used to have a similar problem when I tried to run 1280 x 1024 on my
laptop and get itsy-bitsy fonts.
Then I took a ruler and measured the monitor and set the DisplaySize
in the Monitor section of xorg.conf and now the fonts becomes readable
again.
Thanks. That was it, at least for menus. Here are a couple of lines
from my revised xorg.conf
#DisplaySize 400 300
DisplaySize 328 246
400 mm x 300 mm gives approx a 19 inch diagonal. I lied to X, telling
it that I have a smaller CRT. X uses bigger fonts to remain readable on
the smaller CRT, and I like it. Non-menu fonts for apps have to be
set individually. For Firefox, it's...
Edit = Preferences = General = Fonts Colors
The one part I haven't figured out is xterm. If I {ALT-RIGHT-CLICK}
in an xterm, I get a menu that will alter font sizes. How do I change
the default font size that xterm comes up with?
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do I get larger fonts in X ?
On Mon, 2005-15-08 at 22:09 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
The one part I haven't figured out is xterm. If I {ALT-RIGHT-CLICK}
in an xterm, I get a menu that will alter font sizes. How do I change
the default font size that xterm comes up with?
You can control xterm fonts with either command line options or with
Xtoolkit resources. man xterm shows the option:
-fn font This option specifies the font to be used for displaying
normal text. The default is fixed.
and for a resource:
font (class Font) Specifies the name of the normal font. The
default is ``fixed.''
Reviewing the rest of the man file, there are many other options and
resources for controlling fonts. Far more than I remember from the
last time I looked at this particular man file. Looks like some
experimentation would be in order to determine what works best for
you.
Tom Naujokas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Paul Hoy wrote: My original email was 23/24 packages for x86. However, after reading your email, I compared the first 10 kde updates with ~x86 releases. It came out that Fedora was ahead 50 percent of the time or both distros shared the same release versions. In case I'm doing something incorrectly, you can also view the updates at http://fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ Of course, this new comparison is between testing releases and so-called stable Fedora releases. There is a Fedora extras/unstable list (Fedora Core 4 Testing Updates) for that, but I don't receive that one. It also should be noted that the updates I listed happen to be mostly for Fedora 3, not Fedora 4. I compared some Fedora 4 releases the other day and shared them with this list and Fedora was ahead 90 percent of the time (out of about 10 recent release comparisons). Finally, after doing a ~x86 compare, I noticed that fedora-announce-list is slow to announce updates as most of the actual updates took place around the beginning of August by Redhat people. Not sure why that is. I'd be curious as to how long this remains the case. In the past I've seen binary distros leap ahead and they remain fairly up to date for a period of time after their initial release. As time progresses they fall behind and are unable to add software that requires newer core libs than the ones they shipped with or releases that are too different from the previous release. They continue falling further behind until the next major release and the cycle starts again. Assuming the above is correct outside my own experiences I'd trade short bursts of current packages with a 6-8 month reinstall for long term just shy of bleeding edge. Afterall the mail server that sent this started its life as Gentoo v1.2 three years ago. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives?
Hi, Paul Hoy wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-16 at 13:11 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:58:54 -0400 Paul Hoy wrote: Coincidently, I received a bunch of Fedora 3 4 email updates earlier today, which shows that Gentoo is behind 23 out of 24 of the updates, some of them quite significantly. Most of them are KDE-related files, That confirms my thoughts (which i posted yesterday). So can you clarify, is that 23/24 packages are behind on x86 or on ~x86? i.e. would an ~x86 gentoo be ahead or behind fedora? Here also comes the question of how far behind as if it's a day or even a week that's nothing IMHO :p My original email was 23/24 packages for x86. However, after reading your email, I compared the first 10 kde updates with ~x86 releases. It came out that Fedora was ahead 50 percent of the time or both distros shared the same release versions. In case I'm doing something incorrectly, you can also view the updates at http://fedoraproject.org/infofeed/ Of course, this new comparison is between testing releases and so-called stable Fedora releases. There is a Fedora extras/unstable list (Fedora Core 4 Testing Updates) for that, but I don't receive that one. It also should be noted that the updates I listed happen to be mostly for Fedora 3, not Fedora 4. I compared some Fedora 4 releases the other day and shared them with this list and Fedora was ahead 90 percent of the time (out of about 10 recent release comparisons). Finally, after doing a ~x86 compare, I noticed that fedora-announce-list is slow to announce updates as most of the actual updates took place around the beginning of August by Redhat people. Not sure why that is. Paul Another thing Fedora is still closely related with RedHat (a child of), so being a paid Distro they have more resources/people etc. Gentoo is made/supported by non-paid devs so there must be a difference after all. Still another thought - see Ubuntu's fast rise, made by having mostly Debian unstable/testing packages with some customizations. IMO newest not is always the best (depends on the perspective of course). When running a ~x86 for some 6-7 months sometimes (not very often) bumped on a Bug, which only hours at most a day/two afterwards was solved, so being on front line requires much more time/resources then a little behind. Just my thoughts. Rumen -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What does ls -ld / show? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 20 axllent users 456 Aug 15 20:05 / Looks like it's mounted by me ;-) LOL. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDAXbVCt0ZF9kLPvYRAhUeAJ99Gg+ehuR8T6ntKpo8nGk119Vg/wCgmYSN EntErq1ft4x/JHVz1nqHbo8= =K86w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nick Rout wrote: after that id ralph id wife will show the differences between the accounts - perhaps ralph is in the root group? workstation ~ # id axllent uid=1000(axllent) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),10(wheel),18(audio),35(games),80(cdrw),85(usb),250(portage) workstation ~ # id sanne uid=1001(sanne) gid=100(users) groups=100(users),10(wheel),18(audio),35(games),85(usb) It appears not, but if I look at the post one thread above yours (`ls - -ld /`) it seems to make scense, the root partition is mounted apparently by me, right? Thanks all so far for the ideas Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDAXfZCt0ZF9kLPvYRAgeuAJ9QupmjGhh5HRkPQa6IReOfXSIeRwCgk2jg bZ0gEV81A2pYsf5QGMFhB+U= =q+4T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compression tools Compared
On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 09:36 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: On Saturday 13 August 2005 01:32 am, Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, 2005-08-13 at 00:58 -0400, Jerry McBride wrote: Anyone else here subscribe to the LINUX JOURNAL? In the September issue there's a neat article titled tha same as the subject line of this message. The skinny is, there's some really nice file compressors out there and I never heard of two of them... Anyone else know about LZMA or 7ZA? The two mentioned compression tools work pretty much like gzip. You tar up your files, pipe to the compression filter and then on to the target file. Below is a small example of what I've been seeing here at the shack. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12359680 Aug 12 23:57 backup.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3536665 Aug 13 00:01 backup.tar.7z -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4438465 Aug 13 00:08 backup.tar.bz2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4747637 Aug 13 00:03 backup.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2731412 Aug 13 00:10 backup.tar.lzma -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5125474 Aug 13 00:16 backup.tar.lzop What you're seeing are the results of compressing /lib on my gentoo powered laptop. I've not bothered with timing the processes as the better compression rates are at the cost of speed and memory usage. Not good for while you wait processing, but just plain perfect for backups and what-have-you on servers... One side note, 7za does not record user/group info... Are you saying it removes user/group info from the tar file? Not removed, it's never put there... :') I'm sorry but how do you create a tar file without preserving the usernames and permissions? -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 FSF Associate Member number 2340 since 05/20/2004 Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net Buy an Xbox for $149.00, run linux on it and Microsoft loses $150.00! 9:42am up 26 days, 9:41, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] F4L
Hi there, I would love to try out Flash4Linux (f4l.sf.net) but it wont compile. Im trying 0.2. When I type make, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/MyTars/f4l-0.2 $ make make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. Any ideas? Thanks! Ian __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ktoon
Hi there, Does anyone know how to get KToon working? http://ktoon.toonka.com/ I cannot compile it because when I run Qmake to compile the sources, it says qmake: command not found. What can I do? Thanks! Ian __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 el nino simple user restricts
Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Gyuri wrote: Hi guys, I've just downloaded, and installed Gentoo 2005.1 El Nino. I have some experiences with former Gentoo releases. But there is a little bug (maybe?) in el nino. A simple user cannot read the contets of the root ( / ) partition, she/he can only read and write in his/her own home directory. Is it a bug? Or is it done for some security reasons? Thanks in advance. Sorry for my bad English. what does output ls -ld / ? mine is drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 496 Aug 15 01:01 / maybe there is something wrong with mount options in etc/fstab ? About reemerge the whole system you can use emerge -ea world, seldom this doesn't go good so the procedure I follow is something like this: create a bash script like this (it can be done better, but it's fast to write it this way ;): #! /bin/bash emerge -epv world emerge -e world \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst \ || emerge --resume --skipfirst = chmod +x eworld nohup ./eworld tail -f nohup.out at the end grep ERROR.*fail nohup.out to see if something is gone wrong. this seem to be your first post, welcome here Gyuri Thanks four your answers, ls -ld / says the same as yours, but with much less rights (my user manowar even dont have read, enter (folders) and write access). My fstab is correct. I mount /dev/hda6 (ext3) to / with the option noatime and with 0 1 at the end of the line. Should I mount it with defaults option? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] F4L
Ian K wrote: Hi there, I would love to try out Flash4Linux (f4l.sf.net) but it wont compile. Im trying 0.2. When I type make, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/MyTars/f4l-0.2 $ make make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. Any ideas? Thanks! Ian __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca Do you have KDE(libs) installed on your system? Are you trying to install it from a tarball? Is it in the Portage? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] saving iptables state
Martin Marcher wrote: Hi, i have a home setup with portsentry also hooked to my box as firewall addition. now the problem my box is in another room and sometimes my colleague just turns it of (the brutal way just unplug it). now i was wondering if anyone had ideas about how to save the iptables state that portsentry creates. iptables-save doesn't do the trick for some reaseon thx Martin Maybe you should write a simple bash-script and take it into the init RC scripts. (default booting runlevel) Command iptables can be used in terminal to control the netfilter. You can find programs or webpages to automatically generate these lines for you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] external modem identificaton
How to identify external modem? I think it is by running command: ATI4 Though, how do I connect to a modem from a command line to get a response to ATI4? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I (user) can write to / ... but why?
Am Dienstag, 16. August 2005 07:17 schrieb ext Ralph Slooten:
What does ls -ld / show?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -ld /
drwxr-xr-x 20 axllent users 456 Aug 15 20:05 /
Looks like it's mounted by me ;-) LOL.
No. It isn't mounted by you. You own it (at least this directory). Use
find / -xdev -uid 1000
to find out if more files are owned by that user. Just to be save, repeat it
on /usr, too. If you find files with wrong ownership, run
find / -xdev -uid 1000 -exec chown root:root {} \;
NOTE: This assumes you don't have a single partition for everything. If you
have one single, large partition for everything, mounted as /, you may want
to exclude some directories from the search (i.e. /home, see man find for
details).
HTH...
Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] F4L
Gyuri wrote: Ian K wrote: Hi there, I would love to try out Flash4Linux (f4l.sf.net) but it wont compile. Im trying 0.2. When I type make, I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/MyTars/f4l-0.2 $ make make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/qt/3/mkspecs/default/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. Any ideas? Thanks! Ian Do you have KDE(libs) installed on your system? Are you trying to install it from a tarball? Is it in the Portage? Unfortunately, it is not in portage. How can I check on kde-libs? Thanks! begin:vcard fn:Ian K n:K;Ian email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] note;quoted-printable:Pentium 3=0D=0A= 500mHz=0D=0A= 256MB RAM=0D=0A= 80.0GB HDD=0D=0A= ATI Radeon 7000 Evil Wizard 64MB=0D=0A= Computer name: PentaQuad=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard
