Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:59:11 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! A happy Festival of Capitalism to you all :) -- Neil Bothwick Electrocution, n.: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] VI
Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? Thanks, Ivan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Hi guys, and Holly, I ran a revdep-rebuild on my main rig and it says it needs to do this: [ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.12.2] OK, the U means Upgrade right? The D means downgrade right? What the heck is going on here? How is it going to upgrade then downgrade and why? Here's the whole thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -p Checking reverse dependencies... Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by any package update, will be recompiled. Collecting system binaries and libraries... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files. Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath. Checking dynamic linking consistency... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild. Assigning files to ebuilds... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds. Evaluating package order... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order. All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot --nodeps -p =gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.12.2] Now you can remove -p (or --pretend) from arguments and re-run revdep-rebuild. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Can someone clear this one up for me? I'm a little more confused than normal on this one. While I am at it. I don't use Gnome so why is it installing it? I use KDE. Thanks Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On 24 December 2005 12:48, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:59:11 -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! A happy Festival of Capitalism to you all :) Buying nothing than a bottle of scotch for myself. ;-) hehehe Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
Hi, and Merry Christmas!Anyone with an idea what file system Sony has put on the mp3-player? They have their own proprietary transfer app - which is Windows only, naturally. My partner finally bought a mp3-player the other day, and now we are having problems with the CD on our Windows laptop. So I though I'd just move stuff from my disk to the mp3-thingie. Personally I won't buy a Sony thing after their total f-up with the DMR software.Regards,Martin S
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Dale schreef: Hi guys, and Holly, I ran a revdep-rebuild on my main rig and it says it needs to do this: [ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.12.2] OK, the U means Upgrade right? The D means downgrade right? What the heck is going on here? How is it going to upgrade then downgrade and why? It's not going to upgrade, then downgrade It means that the upgrade *is* a downgrade from the version currently installed. This can happen for a number of reasons, but all the reasons relate to the currently-installed package being illegal on your system in Portage's view. For example: 1. You installed the current version with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch on the command line; because this is a temporary setting that Portage doesn't remember after a new shell login, when a global Portage search is later run, Portage sees that only stable packages are legal and downgrades the upgrade; 2. The package has changed status since installation and is no longer legal (for example, the dev team has discovered major problems and hard masked the package, making it legal on _no-one's_ system-- this happened to me yesterday with the bash upgrade); 3. The package that uses this package as a dependency cannot use this version of the currently-installed lib as a dependency (has a hard version dependency), so the package must be downgraded to serve as a dependency for the package in your world file that's demanding it. Etc., etc, enz. Here's the whole thing. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -p snip Collecting system binaries and libraries... using existing /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files. snip Can someone clear this one up for me? I'm a little more confused than normal on this one. You see that using exisiting /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files? That means that you previously ran revdep-rebuild -p and the system is using that output to run the actual rebuild. It's quite possible that the previous --pretend was run before you upgraded gnome-vfs, and the output of course does not know that the upgrade has occurred (since it's using old output, rather than checking the entire tree again). I would say either remove all the /root/.revdep-* files in the tree and run revdep-rebuild again (with or without -p, if you use -p then you'll have to run it again without to actually perform the rebuild), or just downgrade and then when you run another emerge -uaDtv world, you will likely be offered the upgrade again-- and since you're using the --tree option, you will be able to see what's bringing in gnome-vfs. While I am at it. I don't use Gnome so why is it installing it? I use KDE. Do an emerge -upDtv gnome-vfs (after the downgrade, if you allow it). That should show you what is bringing it in (the --tree view), and the USE flags that package is using It's possible that you have the gnome USE flag enabled for a package that doesn't need it, or another USE flag-- eds comes to mind that forces the dependency. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:35:37 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: snip... With respect, officially Pro and Server are separate products--that is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 3.0) will only run Win9x. I thought you meant that W4L Pro Was also the server product. I understand there is only WTS 3 right now and that a new server product is in beta. If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users Guide--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information. Maybe I misunderstand. I always thought Pro was only a client and that the WTS was a separate product. I don't think PRO can be both. It CAN be a WTS client. Anyway, I don't use either, so what do I know? :) snip... Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't indicate whether it's Pro or Home. This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since for a LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher pickledonion abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like myself, who left them. You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers for the Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I _think_ I read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel patches, so I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as the product can't work. Good luck. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
In theory I suppose it does. Has anyone gotten past the fact that when you try to install it returns: root $ ./install Log file name:/tmp/corel/Setup.log which: no dpkg in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin) which: no rpm in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin) Then exits the installation process. I use to use Corel Photo Paint with my Mandrake system (RPM) based way back in the day, but since moving to Gentoo I can't get it running any more. Adrian On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:00:54 +0200 Iulian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: Hi there, Corel Draw 9 for linux works on Gentoo? Iulian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Friday 23 December 2005 23:59, a tiny voice compelled Dan Meltzer to write: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote: Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Thanks! Blessed Solstice to All! (A bit late...) And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Merry Christmas to all my friends here. If you don't celebrate the birth of Christ, please disregard this message. If the message offends you, move somewhere where they have laws against celebrating Christian holidays. I'm sure you'll be much happier. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 07:32:40 up 3 days, 20:37, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.26, 0.54 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
Ernie Schroder schreef: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:59, a tiny voice compelled Dan Meltzer to write: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote: Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Thanks! Blessed Solstice to All! (A bit late...) And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Merry Christmas to all my friends here. If you don't celebrate the birth of Christ, please disregard this message. If the message offends you, move somewhere where they have laws against celebrating Christian holidays. I'm sure you'll be much happier. Happy holidays to all-- whatever the holiday you are celebrating at this time! It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? I think that the closest in portage is nvi, which is what the BSD's have by default. -- Natural selection won't matter soon, not anywhere as much as concious selection. We will civilize and alter ourselves to suit our ideas of what we can be. Within one more human lifespan, we will have changed ourselves unrecognizably. -- Greg Bear -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to you Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year. -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 08:03:59 up 3 days, 21:08, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.60, 0.73 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 11:15 +, Ivan Novick wrote: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? You don't want normal vi, trust me on this. : ) We do have nvi, (elvis, but I'm not sure there) and if you're desperate for the original feeling of loss, the busybox vi implementation. However, the -classic- vi source is a headache and its use of terminfo so horrendous that it causes brain-hemorrhaging if you try to update it. //Spider ex vi maintainer. Now suffering from hemorrhaging brainzombies. -- begin .signature Tortured users / Laughing in pain See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
Of all the communities I am/have been a part of, Gentoo is the best one. So I would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Safe Happy New Year as well :- ) Robin On 12/24/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ernie Schroder schreef: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:59, a tiny voice compelled Dan Meltzer to write: On Friday 23 December 2005 23:53, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 10:05 pm, Glenn Enright wrote: Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Thanks! Blessed Solstice to All! (A bit late...) And a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving to you also! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Merry Christmas to all my friends here. If you don't celebrate the birth of Christ, please disregard this message. If the message offends you, move somewhere where they have laws against celebrating Christian holidays. I'm sure you'll be much happier. Happy holidays to all-- whatever the holiday you are celebrating at this time! It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Of all the editors I have to say Nano is the best. Being a former Windows user : -) Although this is totally off topic, I just had to let you know in case you were wondering. On 12/24/05, George Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? I think that the closest in portage is nvi, which is what the BSD's have by default. -- Natural selection won't matter soon, not anywhere as much as concious selection. We will civilize and alter ourselves to suit our ideas of what we can be. Within one more human lifespan, we will have changed ourselves unrecognizably. -- Greg Bear -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:48:46 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. Well, it makes sense for everyone to have a holiday around now, what with everywhere being closed for Christmas :) -- Neil Bothwick Windows 98 took us to the edge of the cliff. With Windows XP we took a big step forward. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:49:24 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Buying nothing than a bottle of scotch for myself. ;-) hehehe That's true Christmas spirit, provided it's a decent single malt :) -- Neil Bothwick She's fine, upstanding, and wonderful laying down. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:43:12PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote: On Friday 23 December 2005 19:38, John J. Foster wrote: What is the correct syntax for starting manually? What should I be looking for? I've never used courier/imap, but if you look in the init file (in /etc/init.d/ ) in the start() function, you should see the command it runs. Try running that on the command line //garbanzo/root # start-stop-daemon --quiet --start \ --exec /usr/bin/env \ - /usr/lib/courier-imap/gentoo-imapd-ssl.rc produces no visible errors, but still can't connect to maildirs. Thanks, John pgpF7Fyyv8vNv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin S wrote: Hi, and Merry Christmas! Anyone with an idea what file system Sony has put on the mp3-player? They have their own proprietary transfer app - which is Windows only, naturally. My partner finally bought a mp3-player the other day, and now we are having problems with the CD on our Windows laptop. So I though I'd just move stuff from my disk to the mp3-thingie. Personally I won't buy a Sony thing after their total f-up with the DMR software. Regards, Martin S I have an NE-E105 and have to use the Sony Connect software (Windoze only) to transfer music. It was so convoluted to set up that I almost threw the thing out the window. You need the latest MDAC 2.8 from mickeysoft to get the Sony software to work. And no - didn't buy it myself - got it at my company's last meeting as a door prize. PolkLUG -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDrVIO578gPp7JV28RAjEaAKC3KdFJmH2/XD5k1MxMxjxRZQ2llQCeMCvs HHt0zrEXhihvSI6eOXnSoOE= =txdJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. Hi guys, and Holly, I ran a revdep-rebuild on my main rig and it says it needs to do this: [ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.12.2] OK, the U means Upgrade right? The D means downgrade right? What the heck is going on here? How is it going to upgrade then downgrade and why? It's not going to upgrade, then downgrade It means that the upgrade *is* a downgrade from the version currently installed. Oh, I see. Sort of looks funny though. LOL This can happen for a number of reasons, but all the reasons relate to the currently-installed package being illegal on your system in Portage's view. For example: 1. You installed the current version with ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~arch on the command line; because this is a temporary setting that Portage doesn't remember after a new shell login, when a global Portage search is later run, Portage sees that only stable packages are legal and downgrades the upgrade; I never do this. 2. The package has changed status since installation and is no longer legal (for example, the dev team has discovered major problems and hard masked the package, making it legal on _no-one's_ system-- this happened to me yesterday with the bash upgrade); 3. The package that uses this package as a dependency cannot use this version of the currently-installed lib as a dependency (has a hard version dependency), so the package must be downgraded to serve as a dependency for the package in your world file that's demanding it. Etc., etc, enz. Mine was in package.keywords for some reason. I dunno. A ghost maybe LOL You see that using exisiting /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files? That means that you previously ran revdep-rebuild -p and the system is using that output to run the actual rebuild. Yea, I just used the up arrow and bash history. I usually rm the files before I run revdep. The first time anyway. Do an emerge -upDtv gnome-vfs (after the downgrade, if you allow it). That should show you what is bringing it in (the --tree view), and the USE flags that package is using It's possible that you have the gnome USE flag enabled for a package that doesn't need it, or another USE flag-- eds comes to mind that forces the dependency. Hope this helps. Holly Well, I took it out of package.keyword and this is what I get now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -p Checking reverse dependencies... Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by any package update, will be recompiled. Collecting system binaries and libraries... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files) Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath) Checking dynamic linking consistency... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild) Assigning files to ebuilds... Nothing to rebuild Evaluating package order... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order) Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # It works and it didn't change anything. Oh well. It works, I'm happy. Thanks Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
Ernie Schroder wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to you Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year. Especailly me. LOL Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild
John J. Foster wrote: //garbanzo/root # start-stop-daemon --quiet --start \ --exec /usr/bin/env \ - /usr/lib/courier-imap/gentoo-imapd-ssl.rc produces no visible errors, but still can't connect to maildirs. Just run: /usr/lib/courier-imap/gentoo-imapd-ssl.rc Christoph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
The same can be said about Sony MiniDisc, seems to me that all Sony equiment has this protection or whatever they call it. Peter De ZutterOn 12/24/05, PolkLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1Martin S wrote: Hi, and Merry Christmas! Anyone with an idea what file system Sony has put on the mp3-player? They have their own proprietary transfer app - which is Windows only, naturally. My partner finally bought a mp3-player the other day, and now we are having problems with the CD on our Windows laptop. So I though I'd just move stuff from my disk to the mp3-thingie. Personally I won't buy a Sony thing after their total f-up with the DMR software. Regards, Martin SI have an NE-E105 and have to use the Sony Connect software (Windoze only) to transfer music. It was so convoluted to set up that I almostthrew the thing out the window. You need the latest MDAC 2.8 frommickeysoft to get the Sony software to work.And no - didn't buy it myself - got it at my company's last meeting as a door prize.PolkLUG-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32)Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.orgiD8DBQFDrVIO578gPp7JV28RAjEaAKC3KdFJmH2/XD5k1MxMxjxRZQ2llQCeMCvs HHt0zrEXhihvSI6eOXnSoOE==txdJ-END PGP SIGNATURE---gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- I have plenty of common sense, I just choose to ignore it. --- Calvin
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. :-) (at least I hope you're jokiing)-- schreef is wrote in Dutch (so now you know a word of Dutch, hurrah!). It's just the default quote header-- as you see before Dale screef is Holly Bostick wrote, which is the exact same quote header, but yours, quoting me, is in English, while mine, quoting you, is in Dutch. My Thunderbird is in Dutch as are almost all my other desktop applications, as I'm trying to learn Dutch computer language the hard way. It's not much use telling a native Dutch speaker to choose Edit=Preferences=Composition=Send Options if their desktop is not in English, they don't speak English, and I don't know the Dutch words for what is actually appearing and I'm not physically in front of their desktop. Not much hope of getting work as a tech support tech if I don't know the proper terminology when I'm trying to help people over the phone, for example. I beg your indulgence in this matter. Hi guys, and Holly, I ran a revdep-rebuild on my main rig and it says it needs to do this: [ebuild UD] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 [2.12.2] OK, the U means Upgrade right? The D means downgrade right? What the heck is going on here? How is it going to upgrade then downgrade and why? It's not going to upgrade, then downgrade It means that the upgrade *is* a downgrade from the version currently installed. Oh, I see. Sort of looks funny though. LOL Agreed, but really it's not a big deal, especially since the currently-installed version is right there in brackets after the version that is about to be installed, and it's easy to see that the version proposed to be installed is a downgrade from the currently-installed version. This can happen for a number of reasons, but all the reasons relate to the currently-installed package being illegal on your system in Portage's view. snip Mine was in package.keywords for some reason. I dunno. A ghost maybe LOL You see that using exisiting /root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files? That means that you previously ran revdep-rebuild -p and the system is using that output to run the actual rebuild. Yea, I just used the up arrow and bash history. I usually rm the files before I run revdep. The first time anyway. snip Well, I took it out of package.keyword and this is what I get now. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -p snip Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # It works and it didn't change anything. Oh well. It works, I'm happy. Yes, because there was nothing wrong with the currently-installed version, apparently; revdep-rebuild only thought there was because the previous output that you were using required a package no longer present (because you had already upgraded it to the currently-installed version before you ran the actual rebuild based on the previous output). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] (Newbie)Emerge Problem
Hi I am having problems with emerge working during installation. I have Pentium4 with HT PC, and tried to install gentoo-2005 twice, eveything was fine ,hardware was easily detected, but network did not work well with proxies. I did $export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 but links2, emerge do not work. they give error 407 Authentication required, that is connects to proxy server but cannot authenticate me. However I can links2 to internal webpages which do not require proxy. More on this, I am currently running ubuntu, when I do the same thing in it, wget does not work but apt-get works. To get wget to work I have to do in addition to exporting is wget --proxy-user=spsingh --proxy-passwd=passwd http://whatever.whatever Please help me. I wish so much to try gentoo out. Is there a way to check if emerge works without having to go through half of installation so that I do not have to waste time again. Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 03:06:03PM +0100, Christoph Gysin wrote: Just run: /usr/lib/courier-imap/gentoo-imapd-ssl.rc //garbanzo/root # /usr/lib/courier-imap/gentoo-imapd-ssl.rc gives the following 2 new processes, but no connection still. //garbanzo/root # ps aux|grep courier-imap root 1159 0.0 0.0 1548 540 ?S09:17 0:00 \ /usr/lib/courier-imap/couriertcpd -address=0 \ -stderrlogger=/usr/lib/courier-imap/courierlogger \ -stderrloggername=imapd-ssl -maxprocs=40 -maxperip=4 \ -pid=/var/run/imapd-ssl.pid -nodnslookup -noidentlookup 993 \ /usr/sbin/couriertls -server -tcpd /usr/sbin/imaplogin \ /usr/sbin/courier-imapd Maildir/ root 1164 0.0 0.0 1452 456 ?S09:17 0:00 \ /usr/lib/courier-imap/courierlogger imapd-ssl John pgpSLxJmFeLcq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. :-) (at least I hope you're jokiing)-- schreef is wrote in Dutch (so now you know a word of Dutch, hurrah!). It's just the default quote header-- as you see before Dale screef is Holly Bostick wrote, which is the exact same quote header, but yours, quoting me, is in English, while mine, quoting you, is in Dutch. My Thunderbird is in Dutch as are almost all my other desktop applications, as I'm trying to learn Dutch computer language the hard way. It's not much use telling a native Dutch speaker to choose Edit=Preferences=Composition=Send Options if their desktop is not in English, they don't speak English, and I don't know the Dutch words for what is actually appearing and I'm not physically in front of their desktop. Not much hope of getting work as a tech support tech if I don't know the proper terminology when I'm trying to help people over the phone, for example. I beg your indulgence in this matter. Oh. I thought I had something set wrong over here. I thought it was saying my last name was schreef, which it isn't by the way. LOL Yes, because there was nothing wrong with the currently-installed version, apparently; revdep-rebuild only thought there was because the previous output that you were using required a package no longer present (because you had already upgraded it to the currently-installed version before you ran the actual rebuild based on the previous output). Holly At least now I don't have to worry when I reboot. I get a bit worried over nothing sometimes. OCD kicking in I guess. LOL Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors
On Dec 24, 2005, at 6:26 AM, Peter wrote: On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:35:37 -0700, Tom Smith wrote: snip... With respect, officially Pro and Server are separate products--that is, Pro will run Win2k and WinXP while the current Server product (WTS 3.0) will only run Win9x. I thought you meant that W4L Pro Was also the server product. I understand there is only WTS 3 right now and that a new server product is in beta. If you have a look at the Win4Lin Pro manual, you'll see a section in it pertaining to Terminal Server functionality. What enables the Terminal Server functionality is the license code--that came directly from Netraverse. I've worked quite extensively with them over the last year to (try and) resolve some of the issues I've had with WTS 3. The only one to date that remains unresolved is the Num Lock issue (and I will try your suggestion if Pro doesn't work out). Here's a link to the manual page for Win4Lin--have a look at Win4Lin Pro 2.0 Users Guide--it contains BOTH Pro and Server information. Maybe I misunderstand. I always thought Pro was only a client and that the WTS was a separate product. I don't think PRO can be both. It CAN be a WTS client. Anyway, I don't use either, so what do I know? :) snip... Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't indicate whether it's Pro or Home. This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since for a LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher pickledonion abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like myself, who left them. You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers for the Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I _think_ I read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel patches, so I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as the product can't work. I'm not sure what you mean by can't work. It's working on my box, but not through the ebuild. It's not the pro version, though. Depends on what you need it for. I just needed to run one app and it's working fine. Good luck. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
On 24 December 2005 15:49, Dale wrote: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. That's Dutch for wrote. ;-) Uwe -- Unix is sexy: who | grep -i blonde | date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
On Saturday 24 December 2005 16:09, Peter De Zutter wrote: The same can be said about Sony MiniDisc, seems to me that all Sony equiment has this protection or whatever they call it. Peter De Zutter I have an NE-E105 and have to use the Sony Connect software (Windoze only) to transfer music. It was so convoluted to set up that I almost threw the thing out the window. You need the latest MDAC 2.8 from mickeysoft to get the Sony software to work. And no - didn't buy it myself - got it at my company's last meeting as a door prize. PolkLUG I have Sony CD-mp3CD player supporting their own Atrack3plus format with only windoze soft. I tested it, good thing you can put about 30 albums to one CD but quality is very poor, below my more than 10 years old compact cassettes. martins -- Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 17:04:53 up 1 day, 5:46, 5 users, load average: 1.00, 1.02, 1.13 pgp8HhHsf7Egl.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
I just accidentally zapped all my incoming gentoo-user emails, so apologies if this is a duplicate question... After a successful emerge sync I tried an emerge -uD world but get: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-java/sun-j2sdk. (dependency required by sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 [ebuild]) I thought sun-j2sdk had been removed from portage a while back. Any pointers on where I can start looking for the problem here? I'll start digging but thought I'd post a note in case someone else has already encountered and solved this. Thanks! Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
I was thinking of getting an Ipod Nano. Any problems with Linux?Martin S2005/12/24, Martins Steinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 24 December 2005 16:09, Peter De Zutter wrote: The same can be said about Sony MiniDisc, seems to me that all Sony equiment has this protection or whatever they call it. Peter De Zutter I have an NE-E105 and have to use the Sony Connect software (Windoze only) to transfer music. It was so convoluted to set up that I almost threw the thing out the window. You need the latest MDAC 2.8 from mickeysoft to get the Sony software to work. And no - didn't buy it myself - got it at my company's last meeting as a door prize. PolkLUG I have Sony CD-mp3CD player supporting their own Atrack3plus format with onlywindoze soft. I tested it, good thing you can put about 30 albums to one CDbut quality is very poor, below my more than 10 years old compact cassettes. martins--Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 17:04:53 up 1 day,5:46,5 users,load average: 1.00, 1.02, 1.13-- Regards, Martin S
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. :-) (at least I hope you're joking)-- schreef is wrote in Dutch (so now you know a word of Dutch, hurrah!). It's just the default quote header-- as you see before Dale screef is Holly Bostick wrote, which is the exact same quote header, but yours, quoting me, is in English, while mine, quoting you, is in Dutch. snip Oh. I thought I had something set wrong over here. I thought it was saying my last name was schreef, which it isn't by the way. LOL No, for two reasons; 1) if it was intended to indicate your last name, it would most likely be capitalized, as is the tradition for proper names, the fact that it isn't indicates that it's just a word; 2) the format of the default quote header is sender_name wrote, so since your view name is Dale, no last name appears, whereas since my view name is Holly Bostick-- as opposed to just Holly-- any default headers quoting me say Holly Bostick wrote, as opposed to any default header quoting you, which will only say Dale wrote, with wrote being in the default language for the desktop. We don't even know your last name; you haven't provided it (which is perfectly fine, it's your right and we don't care anyway). Why would we make something up? Did you not notice that when Dirk Heinrichs quoted you in your Easy way to unmerge all of KDE? thread, his quote header was Am Freitag, 23. Dezember 2005 07:12 schrieb ext Dale: Which is On Friday, 23 December 2005 0:7:12 Dale wrote in /German/? Many mail programs translate common words, dates, and date format that are inserted into the mail into the default system language, since the presumption is that you are naturally writing in that language, to those who speak that language, and if you are not, the information is not so critical that it really matters if you don't speak German (or Dutch), since the date is pretty understandable if you need it, and the fact that you don't know that schrieb means wrote is fairly irrelevant, since he obviously then quotes your previous post (so it's easy enough to guess that schrieb means wrote). :-) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In theory I suppose it does. Has anyone gotten past the fact that when you try to install it returns: root $ ./install Log file name:/tmp/corel/Setup.log which: no dpkg in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin) which: no rpm in (/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin) Then exits the installation process. I use to use Corel Photo Paint with my Mandrake system (RPM) based way back in the day, but since moving to Gentoo I can't get it running any more. # emerge dpkg rpm -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan Novick schrieb: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. Sure there is. http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net/ -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Ivan Novick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File system on Sony nw-e405
On Dec 24, 2005, at 3:24 pm, Martin S wrote: I was thinking of getting an Ipod Nano. Any problems with Linux? `esearch ipod` would suggest it's well-supported. I don't have one myself, but I believe that many people use them under Linux. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
On Saturday 24 December 2005 09:59, a tiny voice compelled Uwe Thiem to write: On 24 December 2005 15:49, Dale wrote: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. That's Dutch for wrote. ;-) Ahh but what would that read in Namibian? -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 11:19:50 up 4 days, 24 min, 2 users, load average: 0.56, 0.37, 0.29 Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r42.6.14-r-4_new i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Klaus Fabritius schrieb: * Alexander Skwar schrieb: Ivan Novick schrieb: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. [...] In 2002 Caldera opened the original vi from Bill Joy under a BSD-style license. There is a linux port from Gunnar Ritter at: Oh, allright, I stand corrected. Beats me why somebody would want to use it, though. Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
Doesn't sun-jdk satisfies this dependency? 2005/12/24, Mike Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just accidentally zapped all my incoming gentoo-user emails, so apologies if this is a duplicate question... After a successful emerge sync I tried an emerge -uD world but get: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-java/sun-j2sdk. (dependency required by sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 [ebuild]) I thought sun-j2sdk had been removed from portage a while back. Any pointers on where I can start looking for the problem here? I'll start digging but thought I'd post a note in case someone else has already encountered and solved this. Thanks! Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (Newbie)Emerge Problem
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:49:49 +0530 Sumeet Pal Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am having problems with emerge working during installation. I have Pentium4 with HT PC, and tried to install gentoo-2005 twice, eveything was fine ,hardware was easily detected, but network did not work well with proxies. I did $export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 but links2, emerge do not work. You'll need quotes - export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan Novick schrieb: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on of the others? BTW: How can you *not* like vim? I mean, it's very much compatible to vi, isn't it? emerge -C vim emerge emacs -- I'll rob that rich person and give it to some poor deserving slob. That will *prove* I'm Robin Hood. -- Daffy Duck, Robin Hood Daffy, [1958, Chuck Jones] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net. No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future with our lack of termcap setup, hence why the ebuilds were removed. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my brain) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote: emerge -C vim emerge emacs Troll -- Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Saturday 24 December 2005 13:51, Dale wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to you Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year. Especailly me. LOL And a Merry Xthing and a Happy New Year from me and the Hairy Ones. Hiding in Berkx UK. ( wrapping himself round a bottle of Aussie Shiraz and thinking that an emerge world would not be a good thing to do) -- Big Tone -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Win4Lin Pro install errors
Peter wrote: Actually, I thought the version of Win4Lin in Portage was the Pro product (bad assumption on my part) as the package description doesn't indicate whether it's Pro or Home. This is unclear. The 5.1.1 in portage I _think_ is the PRE 9X win4lin versions. I don't think those packages are maintained anymore since for a LONG time the kernel patches were absent. Then, the unofficial patcher pickledonion abandoned W4L and shut down his web page. Beginning in September, after MUCH prodding, W4L Inc. started to try and roll out kernel patches again. However, by then, it was too late for many, like myself, who left them. You might consider posting a bug report to see if the maintainers for the Win4Lin ebuild would consider upgrading the ebuild (although I _think_ I read somewhere that W4L 9X is really the same old W4L with a different name). However, note, there are still problems with the kernel patches, so I am not sure the maintainers will take up the challenge as long as the product can't work. Netraverse moved away from their kernel-based install to an installation that requires no kernel patching. The old W4L Win9x stuff still requires the kernel patches, but the Home and Pro versions do not. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
OK. Thanks for all the replies. I will just use vim. Cheers, Ivan Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:34:08 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There is no ebuild, but you can download and compile vi. It is at | http://ex-vi.sourceforge.net. No you can't. It's either broken or will become broken in the future with our lack of termcap setup, hence why the ebuilds were removed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
Tony Davison wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 13:51, Dale wrote: Ernie Schroder wrote: On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick to write: It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now, regardless of religion or culture. It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common ground across religions and cultures. Maybe next year. :-) Holly A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to you Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year. Especailly me. LOL And a Merry Xthing and a Happy New Year from me and the Hairy Ones. Hiding in Berkx UK. ( wrapping himself round a bottle of Aussie Shiraz and thinking that an emerge world would not be a good thing to do) Merry Christmas to all and a very happy New Year. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
#!/bin/pub
${Merry_xmas} .
bah humbug was going to go for an appropriate bash script with pub and
Glenlivet involved, realised I cant wrote them so ..
Have a merry christmas all :]
stu
ps. New year resolution = bash, need a geekier greeting for next year
On 24/12/05, Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 13:51, Dale wrote:
Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly Bostick
to
write:
It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now,
regardless of religion or culture.
It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common
ground across religions and cultures.
Maybe next year.
:-)
Holly
A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to you
Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year.
Especailly me. LOL
And a Merry Xthing and a Happy New Year from me and the Hairy Ones.
Hiding in Berkx UK.
( wrapping himself round a bottle of Aussie Shiraz and thinking that an emerge
world would not be a good thing to do)
--
Big Tone
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Re: [gentoo-user] VI
Lares Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 12:34 -0500, George Ellison wrote: emerge -C vim emerge emacs Troll Chill out. I'm just being facetious. -- FORTUNE PROVIDES QUESTIONS FOR THE GREAT ANSWERS: #21 A: Dr. Livingston I. Presume. Q: What's Dr. Presume's full name? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] world problems
I'm not talking about wars all over the place. I'm doing my monthly update on my emergency backup machine. Here's what I've run into. Has pmidi been deprecated? [m450][root][~] emerge --ask --deep --update --world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies !!! Problems have been detected with your world file !!! Please run emaint --check world ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-2.17 [2.13] [ebuild U ] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20051113 [20050602] [ebuild U ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r8 [5.8.6-r6] [ebuild NS ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.14-r5 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r1 [2.12r] [ebuild NS ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.4-r1 [ebuild U ] app-arch/cpio-2.6-r5 [2.6-r4] [ebuild U ] app-text/xpdf-3.01-r3 [3.00-r10] [ebuild U ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r4 [1.1.23-r1] [ebuild U ] www-client/links-2.1_pre19 [2.1_pre18] [ebuild U ] sys-fs/mtools-3.9.10 [3.9.9] [ebuild U ] net-mail/getmail-4.4.2 [4.3.11] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/less-385_p4-r2 [382-r2] [ebuild U ] net-dialup/pppconfig-2.3.11-r2 [2.3.11] [ebuild U ] sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 [4.1.20-r1] [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4 [1.0.7-r2] [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.4.2-r3 [1.4.2-r2] Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Quitting. [m450][root][~] emaint --check world Checking world for problems 'media-sound/pmidi' has no ebuilds available -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:30:03 +0100 Harald Arnesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: Adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then exits the installation process. I use to use Corel Photo Paint with my Mandrake system (RPM) based way back in the day, but since moving to Gentoo I can't get it running any more. # emerge dpkg rpm -- Hilsen Harald. Thanks much, but . . . Darn, I knew it couldn't be that simple. Trying to emerge I end up with the following error message. Anyone? Thanks. emerge (3 of 4) dev-libs/elfutils-0.108 to / md5 files ;-) elfutils-0.118.ebuild md5 files ;-) elfutils-0.108-r1.ebuild md5 files ;-) elfutils-0.108.ebuild md5 files ;-) files/elfutils-0.101-bswap.patch md5 files ;-) files/elfutils-0.108-robustify2.patch md5 files ;-) files/elfutils-0.118-libelf-link.patch md5 files ;-) files/elfutils-0.118-PaX-support.patch md5 files ;-) files/elfutils-0.108-portability.patch md5 files ;-) files/digest-elfutils-0.108-r1 md5 files ;-) files/digest-elfutils-0.108 md5 files ;-) files/digest-elfutils-0.118 md5 src_uri ;-) elfutils-0.108.tar.gz md5 src_uri ;-) elfutils-0.108.robustify.patch.bz2 Unpacking source... Unpacking elfutils-0.108.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/elfutils-0.108/work Unpacking elfutils-0.108.robustify.patch.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/elfutils-0.108/work * Applying elfutils-0.101-bswap.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying elfutils-0.108-portability.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying elfutils-0.108.robustify.patch ... [ ok ] * Applying elfutils-0.108-robustify2.patch ... [ ok ]/usr/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:17: warning: underquoted definition of XMMS_TEST_VERSION run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal /usr/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:62: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XMMS /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:36: warning: underquoted definition of AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:59: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SMPEG /usr/share/aclocal/sigc++.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SIGC /usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of PKG_CHECK_MODULES /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:202: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_GUESS_GNUSTEP /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:239: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_GUESS /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:333: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK_LIB /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:405: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK_HEADER /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:440: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:450: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AC_CHECK_DPS_NXAGENT /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:558: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPSET /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:579: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PROG_PSWRAP /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:172: file `path_dps.m4' does not exist autoreconf-2.59: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 !!! ERROR: dev-libs/elfutils-0.108 failed. !!! Function src_unpack, Line 38, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Need help with configuration of ssmtp
I've had this problem for awhile (actually since I got this computer back in October), but I haven't done anything about it until now. It has to do with my ssmtp configuration. On my HP (the computer before this one) ssmtp worked correctly out of the box, so I figured it would be the same with this one, but it wasn't. My cron jobs on my client PC (camille) send out cron reports, and while I know I could just redirect them into /dev/null, I'd like to be able to look over them. They are supposed to send the reports via ssmtp to my server box (bullet), but instead I get error emails from bullet: The original message was received at Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:29:48 -0600 from camille.espersunited.com [192.168.1.3] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) - Transcript of session follows - 553 5.3.5 camille.espersunited.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error Reporting-MTA: dns; bullet.espersunited.com Arrival-Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:29:48 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:04:51 -0600 And: The original message was received at Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:29:48 -0600 from camille.espersunited.com [192.168.1.3] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 553 5.3.5 system config error) - Transcript of session follows - 553 5.3.5 camille.espersunited.com. config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?) 554 5.3.5 Local configuration error Reporting-MTA: dns; bullet.espersunited.com Arrival-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:04:51 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.3.5 Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 553 5.3.5 system config error Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:04:51 -0600 Here are the files in camille's /etc/ssmtp directory: camille ssmtp # cat revaliases # sSMTP aliases # # Format: local_account:outgoing_address:mailhub # # Example: root:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:mailhub.your.domain[:port] # where [:port] is an optional port number that defaults to 25. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:bullet.espersunited.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:bullet.espersunited.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:bullet.espersunited.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:bullet.espersunited.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:bullet.espersunited.com camille ssmtp # cat ssmtp.conf # # /etc/ssmtp.conf -- a config file for sSMTP sendmail. # # The person who gets all mail for userids 1000 # Make this empty to disable rewriting. root=postmaster # The place where the mail goes. The actual machine name is required # no MX records are consulted. Commonly mailhosts are named mail.domain.com # The example will fit if you are in domain.com and your mailhub is so named. mailhub=bullet.espersunited.com # Example for SMTP port number 2525 # mailhub=mail.your.domain:2525 # Example for SMTP port number 25 (Standard/RFC) # mailhub=mail.your.domain # Example for SSL encrypted connection # mailhub=mail.your.domain:465 # Where will the mail seem to come from? rewriteDomain=camille # The full hostname # Gentoo bug #47562 # Commenting the following line will force ssmtp to figure # out the hostname itself. # hostname=_HOSTNAME_ # Set this to never rewrite the From: line (unless not given) and to # use that address in the from line of the envelope. #FromLineOverride=YES # Use SSL/TLS to send secure messages to server. #UseTLS=YES # Use SSL/TLS certificate to authenticate against smtp host. #UseTLSCert=YES # Use this RSA certificate. #TLSCert=/etc/ssl/certs/ssmtp.pem I'm not even sure where exactly the problem is (on bullet or on camille), but these error messages every day are really annoying... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] This is weird. upgrade and downgrade at the same time. ???
Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: Dale schreef: Who is this schreef guy? I'm just Dale. :-) (at least I hope you're joking)-- schreef is wrote in Dutch (so now you know a word of Dutch, hurrah!). It's just the default quote header-- as you see before Dale screef is Holly Bostick wrote, which is the exact same quote header, but yours, quoting me, is in English, while mine, quoting you, is in Dutch. snip Oh. I thought I had something set wrong over here. I thought it was saying my last name was schreef, which it isn't by the way. LOL No, for two reasons; 1) if it was intended to indicate your last name, it would most likely be capitalized, as is the tradition for proper names, the fact that it isn't indicates that it's just a word; 2) the format of the default quote header is sender_name wrote, so since your view name is Dale, no last name appears, whereas since my view name is Holly Bostick-- as opposed to just Holly-- any default headers quoting me say Holly Bostick wrote, as opposed to any default header quoting you, which will only say Dale wrote, with wrote being in the default language for the desktop. We don't even know your last name; you haven't provided it (which is perfectly fine, it's your right and we don't care anyway). Why would we make something up? Did you not notice that when Dirk Heinrichs quoted you in your Easy way to unmerge all of KDE? thread, his quote header was Am Freitag, 23. Dezember 2005 07:12 schrieb ext Dale: Which is On Friday, 23 December 2005 0:7:12 Dale wrote in /German/? Keep in mind, I only know english, and I'm not a expert at it. LOL Many mail programs translate common words, dates, and date format that are inserted into the mail into the default system language, since the presumption is that you are naturally writing in that language, to those who speak that language, and if you are not, the information is not so critical that it really matters if you don't speak German (or Dutch), since the date is pretty understandable if you need it, and the fact that you don't know that schrieb means wrote is fairly irrelevant, since he obviously then quotes your previous post (so it's easy enough to guess that schrieb means wrote). :-) Holly That I figured and see with email not on the list, but in englixh. This list is the only emails I get from another country though. So I just never paid it any attention before. I'm sort of getting out of this box I have been hid in for so long. I now get emails from someone other than my brother. I'm looking for me a lady friend, that I can be happy with and hopefully be happy with me. ;-) Just getting some dust knocked off here. LOL Bare with me here. :-) Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
quoth the Stuart Howard:
#!/bin/pub
${Merry_xmas} .
bah humbug was going to go for an appropriate bash script with pub and
Glenlivet involved, realised I cant wrote them so ..
How about:
if [[ ${Merry_xmas} != 0 ]]; then do /pub/glenlivet --short --double --rocks ;
done
Have a merry christmas all :]
And happy Festivus, the holiday for the restofus ;)
stu
Darren
ps. New year resolution = bash, need a geekier greeting for next year
On 24/12/05, Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 13:51, Dale wrote:
Ernie Schroder wrote:
On Saturday 24 December 2005 07:48, a tiny voice compelled Holly
Bostick to
write:
It's really kinda nice that /everybody/ has a holiday around now,
regardless of religion or culture.
It would be nicer if we all could appreciate that as a kind of common
ground across religions and cultures.
Maybe next year.
:-)
Holly
A nice way of saying what I attempted. A special Merry Christmas to
you Holly. Thanks for bearing with us idiots throughout the year.
Especailly me. LOL
And a Merry Xthing and a Happy New Year from me and the Hairy Ones.
Hiding in Berkx UK.
( wrapping himself round a bottle of Aussie Shiraz and thinking that an
emerge world would not be a good thing to do)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
Adrian schreef: Thanks much, but . . . Darn, I knew it couldn't be that simple. Trying to emerge I end up with the following error message. Anyone? Thanks. snip http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal /usr/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:62: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XMMS /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:36: warning: underquoted definition of AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:59: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_WXCONFIG /usr/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SMPEG /usr/share/aclocal/sigc++.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SIGC /usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of PKG_CHECK_MODULES /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:202: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_GUESS_GNUSTEP /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:239: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_GUESS /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:333: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK_LIB /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:405: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK_HEADER /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:440: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS_CHECK /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:450: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPS /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:525: warning: underquoted definition of AC_CHECK_DPS_NXAGENT /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:558: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PATH_DPSET /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:579: warning: underquoted definition of AC_PROG_PSWRAP /usr/share/aclocal/path_dps.m4:172: file `path_dps.m4' does not exist autoreconf-2.59: aclocal failed with exit status: 1 You might try emerge dgs app-text/dgs Latest version available: 1234 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 0 kB Homepage:http://ronaldmcnightrider.ytmnd.com/ Description: fake ebuild to force removal of broken path_dps.m4 License: as-is then try your emerge again. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Merry Christmas!/Hanukkah
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:49 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote: To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all. Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Come on, only one Jew on the forum? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (Newbie)Emerge Problem
Hi sorry for my mistake in typing the email the thing was in quote. It is not a problem of it being wrongly written since it connects to proxy server but does not authenticate it.On 12/24/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 19:49:49 +0530Sumeet Pal Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am having problems with emerge working during installation. I have Pentium4 with HT PC, and tried to install gentoo-2005 twice, eveything was fine ,hardware was easily detected, but network did not work well with proxies. I did $export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128 but links2, emerge do not work.You'll need quotes - export http_proxy=http://spsingh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:3128Bob---gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] (Newbie)Emerge Problem
On Saturday 24 December 2005 14:19, Sumeet Pal Singh wrote: More on this, I am currently running ubuntu, when I do the same thing in it, *wget does not work but apt-get works.* To get wget to work I have to do in addition to exporting is wget --proxy-user=spsingh --proxy-passwd=passwd http://whatever.whatever Please help me. I wish so much to try gentoo out. Is there a way to check if emerge works without having to go through half of installation so that I do not have to waste time again. Look at the Fetching files of /etc/make.conf -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
George Ellison schrieb: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ivan Novick schrieb: Does anyone know if there is a gentoo package for normal VI, ie not vim?? No, as there's no normal VI for Linux. There are just clones. But if you don't like the vim clone, why don't you try on of the others? BTW: How can you *not* like vim? I mean, it's very much compatible to vi, isn't it? emerge -C vim emerge emacs Uhm - emacs is more compatible to vi than vim? I don't think so. -- Alexander Skwar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Merry Christmas!/Hanukkah
More than one Jew, I'm sure. And many other religions, I expect. Is Diwali considered a winter festival? Ramadan has passed already, no? Others? Anyway, happy winter whatevers to all of you. M On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Peter wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:49 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote: To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all. Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Come on, only one Jew on the forum? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Corel Draw for Gentoo linux
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:41:20 +0100 Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the words: You might try emerge dgs app-text/dgs Latest version available: 1234 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 0 kB Homepage:http://ronaldmcnightrider.ytmnd.com/ Description: fake ebuild to force removal of broken path_dps.m4 License: as-is then try your emerge again. HTH, Holly Holly; That did solve the problem. Thank you very much. Adrian -- On The Fly Photography -:- Creation From Chaos On The Fly Photography: http://204EastSouth.com Purchase from On The Fly: http://204EastSouth.com/OTFStore.htm The Cynical Libertarian Society: http://www.204EastSouth.com/cls -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas all! Its now 42min into Christmas day in South Africa! -- Ryan Viljoen Bsc(Eng) (Electrical) When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
051224 Ernie Schroder wrote: a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving also! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Merry Christmas to all my friends here. Indeed it is ! Us pagans recognised the solstice a few days ago, when we hide in the back of a nice deep cave with a supply of mammoth bones, but we also know that different tribes have different gods it's natural for people to worship the gods of their ancestors. Christians have a charming story about a baby Jews use a lot of bright candles to commemorate yet another rescue event; only the Moslems with their lunar year miss out on this season, but we can remember to greet them when Ramadan next ends, a bit earlier each year. Greetings to Gentooists wherever whenever ! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 17:50 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: 051224 Ernie Schroder wrote: a Merry Non-Demoninational Solstice Holiday With Gift Giving also! IT'S CHRISTMAS! Merry Christmas to all my friends here. Indeed it is ! Us pagans recognised the solstice a few days ago, when we hide in the back of a nice deep cave with a supply of mammoth bones, but we also know that different tribes have different gods it's natural for people to worship the gods of their ancestors. Christians have a charming story about a baby Jews use a lot of bright candles to commemorate yet another rescue event; only the Moslems with their lunar year miss out on this season, but we can remember to greet them when Ramadan next ends, a bit earlier each year. Greetings to Gentooists wherever whenever ! -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Merry Christmas to All, hot buttered run for everyone. -- LostSon http://www.lostsonsvault.org /\ \ \ \__/ \__/ \ \ (oo) (oo) \_\/~~\_/~~\_ _.-~===~-._ (___) \___/ I Want To Believe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
051224 Ivan Novick wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I will just use vim. You can set Vim up to act as if it were Vi : look at its dox. As everyone else has responded too, I don't understand why you want to, but Linux esp Gentoo are basically about user choice (smile). If you want a really simple editor, I recommend 'app-editors/e3'. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:30:25 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
if [[ ${Merry_xmas} != 0 ]]; then do /pub/glenlivet --short --double
--rocks ; done
Heathen! A decent whisky should never be polluted with ice.
USE=noice emerge glenlivet
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SOLVED - Re: [gentoo-user] Courier-imap won't start after system world rebuild
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:22:23PM -0500, John J. Foster wrote: Good evening all, 3 days ago I rebuilt my system to use gcc-3.4.4-r1. I first used gcc-config to change to the new compiler, and then ran emerge -aev system, followed by emerge -aev world. All went extremely well, I thought. Today I noticed that courier-imap has failed to start. (The only reason I knew was because my wife uses this box to store her sent mail for backup purposes, and wwas getting connection errors) Trying to start it manually yields: //garbanzo/root # /etc/init.d/courier-imapd-ssl start * Starting courier-imapd over SSL ... * [ !! ] No log entries are generated that I can find. I compared config files in /etc/courier and /etc/courier-imap with archived copies. They're the same. The following packages have been emerged since upgrading. Wed Dec 21 18:33:07 2005 dev-util/xdelta-1.1.3 Wed Dec 21 21:18:44 2005 sys-process/lsof-4.75 Thu Dec 22 14:02:01 2005 app-admin/showconsole-1.07 Thu Dec 22 14:05:38 2005 sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.0_pre12 Fri Dec 23 09:03:30 2005 sys-apps/findutils-4.1.20-r2 Fri Dec 23 09:21:37 2005 net-mail/courier-imap-4.0.1 I'm not sure whether courier-imap started after the upgrade, or one of these have caused my problems. Turns out it was the update of baselayout to ~x86. I went back to the stable version (boy, I don't think I'd do that again, cause downgrading sure screwed a bunch of other things up) and sure enough, courier-imap worked properly. Instead of fixing the other things that broke with the downgrade, I just updated baselayout to ~x86 again, and then emerged the latest ~x86 version of courier-imap, and all is still well. Thanks for you help, John pgp59k6GdAyWn.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] leap second
There will be a leap second between 051231 235959 060101 00 . Does anyone know how the time servers used by NTP handle this ? Is it just left to the local machine to realise it's 1 sec fast adjust over a few hours or does something else alert it to correct things ? If the former, it could create problems for those running experiments; if the latter, does anyone know how it is done ? The last leap second was 1998/9 , before NTP was widely used. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VI
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Merry Christmas!
quoth the Neil Bothwick:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:30:25 -0800, darren kirby wrote:
if [[ ${Merry_xmas} != 0 ]]; then do /pub/glenlivet --short --double
--rocks ; done
Heathen! A decent whisky should never be polluted with ice.
USE=noice emerge glenlivet
Well, I was just trying to help out Stuart, I don't drink scotch myself, and
didn't realize ice is a faux pas.
My own script would be more like:
if [[ ${today} == ${weekday} ]]; then do /home/beer --ale; done
elif [[ ${today} == ${weekend} ]]; then
while [[ ${sober} ]];
do /bar/martini --gin='bombay' --dry --shaken
done # literally!
fi
-d
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darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org
...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected...
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Merry Christmas!/Hanukkah
On 12/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than one Jew, I'm sure. And many other religions, I expect. Is Diwali considered a winter festival? Ramadan has passed already, no? Others? Anyway, happy winter whatevers to all of you. In fact, it is summer here and I'm melting in this room. M On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Peter wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:49 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote: To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all. Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Come on, only one Jew on the forum? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCM/IT/P/O d-? s:- a? C++$ UBLA++ P+ L++ E--- W+++$ N o+ K- w O M- V- PS PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+++ R+* tv b+ DI+++ D+ G+ e h+ r+ y++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
Apparently not, though I would have thought so as well: # emerge -p sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild Rf ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 This is a strange one. Things were emerging uneventfully until last night (previous 'emerge' was probably around last weekend, give or take a little). Anyway, it's Christmas Eve with more pressing things to tend to. This will get sorted out in the days that come. Merry Christmas everyone!! Mike Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Doesn't sun-jdk satisfies this dependency? 2005/12/24, Mike Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just accidentally zapped all my incoming gentoo-user emails, so apologies if this is a duplicate question... After a successful emerge sync I tried an emerge -uD world but get: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-java/sun-j2sdk. (dependency required by sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 [ebuild]) I thought sun-j2sdk had been removed from portage a while back. Any pointers on where I can start looking for the problem here? I'll start digging but thought I'd post a note in case someone else has already encountered and solved this. Thanks! Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
Mike Markowski wrote: Apparently not, though I would have thought so as well: # emerge -p sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild Rf ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 This is a strange one. Things were emerging uneventfully until last night (previous 'emerge' was probably around last weekend, give or take a little). Anyway, it's Christmas Eve with more pressing things to tend to. This will get sorted out in the days that come. Merry Christmas everyone!! Mike Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Doesn't sun-jdk satisfies this dependency? 2005/12/24, Mike Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just accidentally zapped all my incoming gentoo-user emails, so apologies if this is a duplicate question... After a successful emerge sync I tried an emerge -uD world but get: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-java/sun-j2sdk. (dependency required by sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 [ebuild]) I thought sun-j2sdk had been removed from portage a while back. Any pointers on where I can start looking for the problem here? I'll start digging but thought I'd post a note in case someone else has already encountered and solved this. Thanks! Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list You see that little f there next to the ebuild? It has a fetch restriction. If you look a little ways up it will give you the URL to go to to accept the license and download it. After you download the java thing, move it to /usr/portage/distfiles/ then emerge it. I do this all the time and it is a PITA. I wish some other java would work as good so I didn't have to put up with the manual crap. Oh, as far as I know, this is the only program that has this restriction. I haven't seen any other at least. If you use http-replicator and run repcacheman, it won't even download it from the cache. It's there but you have to get it manually. Sucks huh? Sun did it, not Gentoo. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. I have four rigs: 1: Home built; Abit NF7 ver 2.0 w/ AMD 2500+ CPU, 1GB of ram and right now two 80GB hard drives. 2: Home built; Iwill KK266-R w/ AMD 1GHz CPU, 256MBs of ram and a 4GB drive. 3: Home built; Gigabyte GA-71XE4 w/ 800MHz CPU, 128MBs of ram and a 2.5GB drive. 4: Compaq Proliant 6000 Server w/ Quad 200MHz CPUs, 128MBs of ram and a 4.3GB SCSI drive. All run Gentoo Linux, all run folding. #1 is my desktop, 2, 3, and 4 are set up as servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ogg-vorbis tools and cups
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:24:26AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:18:16 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote: Oh, and another thing: I don't have cups in my make.conf. Doesn't make.conf override the defaults? It does, but since you have no reference to cups in make.conf, the default is used. Many USE flags are enabled by default in the profile, add -cups to make.conf to override this. It was garbage like this that finally convinced me to put -* at the front of my USE variable, followed by the stuff that *I* decided I needed, not the stuff that the developers decided the average user needed. Here's mine, yours would probably be different. USE=-* 3dnow X a52 aac alsa bzip2 cdr dga dio divx4linux dri dvd dvdr dvdread encode exif ffmpeg flac fortran gb gif gtk2 imlib jpeg maildir mikmod mime mmap mmx mng mp3 mpeg ncurses nptl nptlonly nsplugin offensive ogg opengl plotutils png posix quicktime readline sdl sharedmem slang sockets sse theora threads tiff truetype vcd vorbis win32codecs wmf xpm xv zlib I have run into one or 2 booby-traps. E.g. /etc/portage/package.use needs the line... app-text/xpdf motif ...or else motif should be put into USE. Without motif, xpdf builds, but only installs xpdf libraries, but not the executable. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ebuild for dev-java/sun-j2sdk?
Mike Markowski wrote: Apparently not, though I would have thought so as well: # emerge -p sun-jdk These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild Rf ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 This is a strange one. Things were emerging uneventfully until last night (previous 'emerge' was probably around last weekend, give or take a little). Anyway, it's Christmas Eve with more pressing things to tend to. This will get sorted out in the days that come. Merry Christmas everyone!! Mike Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Doesn't sun-jdk satisfies this dependency? 2005/12/24, Mike Markowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just accidentally zapped all my incoming gentoo-user emails, so apologies if this is a duplicate question... After a successful emerge sync I tried an emerge -uD world but get: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies | emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy dev-java/sun-j2sdk. (dependency required by sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 [ebuild]) I thought sun-j2sdk had been removed from portage a while back. Any pointers on where I can start looking for the problem here? I'll start digging but thought I'd post a note in case someone else has already encountered and solved this. Thanks! Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I had a look at /usr/portage/sys-libs/db/db-4.2.52_p2-r1.ebuild and in there the dependencies are: DEPEND=tcltk? ( =dev-lang/tcl-8.4 ) java? ( virtual/jdk ) RDEPEND=tcltk? ( dev-lang/tcl ) java? ( virtual/jre ) I then located the /var/cache/edb/virtuals and in there I got: virtual/jre dev-java/blackdown-jdk virtual/jdk dev-java/blackdown-jdk I have gotten rid of blackdown recently and I have sun-jdk and sun-jre-bin installed. They provide the virtual/jdk and virtual/jre. I have sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1 installed but with -java. I tried 'USE=java emerge -vp db' and it did recognize that I have java installed already. I tried 'USE=java emerge -evp db' to see which java it would install and amongst the packages was sun-jdk-1.5.0.06 which is how I got my masking set up. Maybe if you re-emerge db your problem will disappear? Could it be in your virtuals file? Can it be your profile? Mine is: $ ls -ld /etc/make.profile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 Aug 11 01:38 /etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2005.1 I dont fully understand how virtuals work but maybe any of this is can be of help. Eugene. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] leap second
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 07:33:26PM -0500, Philip Webb wrote: There will be a leap second between 051231 235959 060101 00 . Does anyone know how the time servers used by NTP handle this ? Is it just left to the local machine to realise it's 1 sec fast adjust over a few hours or does something else alert it to correct things ? If the former, it could create problems for those running experiments; if the latter, does anyone know how it is done ? The last leap second was 1998/9 , before NTP was widely used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Unix_time These _might_ help you understand this confusing subject. For me they just gave me a headache. The best I can tell POSIX handling of time-keeping is just broken. In short, don't worry too much about it. If you really want to know what time it is use GPS time (a sane TAI-based system), then convert that to UTC. Jonathan Kollasch pgpJZyLNgRl9H.pgp Description: PGP signature
