Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag oddity

2006-05-12 Thread Alexander Skwar

Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


I noticed that as constituted, I would see firefox and thunderbird
differing on the flag mozcalendar.  It seemed like something I would
like, however, so I tried putting the flag into 
/etc/portage/package.keywords:


Why did you use that file? What made you use this file, and not some
other file?

but the subsequent emerge shows that this does not avoid the situation: 
notice

that TB has +moscalendar, but FB has -mozcalendar.


Sure. That's to be expected.


Call me confused...


Well, I rather call the manual page of portage upon you... And
there, you should read the package.keywords section and the
section directly following that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 ohne Hintergrundbild

2006-05-12 Thread Justin Findlay

On 5/12/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =xfce4-4.3.90.1 have been masked.
  !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
  - xfce-base/xfce4-4.3.90.1 (masked by: package.mask)
  ## Daniel Ostrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20 Apr 2006)
  ## XFCE 4.4 beta1


Man.  I wish I knew German.  All the same, I would suggest copying the
entire xfce mask from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask to your
/etc/portage/package.unmask.  This should enable you to emerge
xfce4-4.3.90.1.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/de/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=3


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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Zac Slade
On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:51, W.Kenworthy wrote:
 What can I use for a compressed file system?  I am looking at setting up
 a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into.
 Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I
 want to do a whole system backup that so far is 2:1 compressed via
 tar.bzip2.  I am thinking of using dirvish into a compressed loopback
 mount - but how do I set up a compressed fs?
Have you tried reiserfs?  As long as it is NOT mounted with the notail 
option it can sometimes save 50% on space compared to ext3/jfs/xfs depending 
on your usage.

There is also a possiblility of using LVM2 snapshots also if you have LVM2 
devices already set up.  I'm not sure how dirvish is for backup and I'm not 
sure how good a loopback backup to a file really is anyway.  That depends on 
the consistency of at least a partition anyway.  Maybe you are trying to 
solve the wrong problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-12 Thread Graham Murray
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 unmerge the blocking packages, coldplug, pam-login and ant-tasks. This
 usually happens because the functionality the package provides is now
 handled by something else that emerge world needs to bring it. This is
 certainly the case with udev now handling coldplug's job.

Which begs the question that if attempting to rebuild all the packages
in a working system indicates blockers, how did the system get in that
state and why did portage not indicate a blockage when the incompatible
packages were installed or upgraded?
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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread ted leslie


since you are not looking at writing to this fs,
then you can use cloop or squashfs

for example, gentoo uses squashfs for its live cd/dvd

squashfs is considered better, but both are in use on live cd/dvd, 
cloop was (At least partially) written by the knoppix dude.

typically you get 2.5:1 compression with these over a general linux distro file 
average.

either one will put all files starting at a root path into the compressed 
structure.
The only real difference between doing it cloop/squashfs and tar.*z
is that cloop/squashfs can be directly accessed (once mounted),
which might be of some use.

big negative (unless fixed in recent releases) is you need enough ram/VM to 
hold the entire
fs (to be compressed) in memory. So if you have 512MB ram and a 1GB VM 
allocation,
the biggest fs you can archive using cloop/squashfs would be 2.5GB (approx), 
that compresses down to 
the 1GB to fit into your VM. 

pretty recent cloop souce is at knoppix web site,
squashfs, IIRC is at kernel.org
squashfs would also be available in gentoo, as gentoo uses it in their live cd.

-tl

On Fri, 12 May 2006 02:47:56 -0500
Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:51, W.Kenworthy wrote:
  What can I use for a compressed file system?  I am looking at setting up
  a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into.
  Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I
  want to do a whole system backup that so far is 2:1 compressed via
  tar.bzip2.  I am thinking of using dirvish into a compressed loopback
  mount - but how do I set up a compressed fs?
 Have you tried reiserfs?  As long as it is NOT mounted with the notail 
 option it can sometimes save 50% on space compared to ext3/jfs/xfs depending 
 on your usage.
 
 There is also a possiblility of using LVM2 snapshots also if you have LVM2 
 devices already set up.  I'm not sure how dirvish is for backup and I'm not 
 sure how good a loopback backup to a file really is anyway.  That depends on 
 the consistency of at least a partition anyway.  Maybe you are trying to 
 solve the wrong problem?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread William Kenworthy
This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and
this method doesnt keep versions.  Trying to keep incrementals using
this has proven to be a disaster.

BillK

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 23:25 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 5/11/06, W.Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What can I use for a compressed file system?  I am looking at setting up
  a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into.
 
 From what I can tell, there are no really good compressing filesystems
 available currently.
 
 But why do you need to do this in the filesystem?  Why not use a
 compressible format for your backups like tar, cpio, or (my favorite)
 dar?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread William Kenworthy
I already use reiserfs with notail, but potentially 60G wont go into 40G
of space without compression, and then there is trying to keep
versions ...  Its notail is also irrelevant if you backup into a single
file.  Same for LVM snapshots (though in this case its a non-LVM laptop
that I want disaster protection for - i.e., in case I drop it!).  My
working data is actually handled well by unison onto a solaris system at
work, but again, space/time and data transfer costs are a problem when
trying to do whole systems remotely, so it would be nice to handle it
myself, I just dont want to go buy another disk to do it unless I have
to.

BillK



On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 02:47 -0500, Zac Slade wrote:
 On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:51, W.Kenworthy wrote:
  What can I use for a compressed file system?  I am looking at setting up
  a loopback mounted filesystem that I want to use to store backups into.
  Compression is needed as space will become a limitation in the future (I
  want to do a whole system backup that so far is 2:1 compressed via
  tar.bzip2.  I am thinking of using dirvish into a compressed loopback
  mount - but how do I set up a compressed fs?
 Have you tried reiserfs?  As long as it is NOT mounted with the notail 
 option it can sometimes save 50% on space compared to ext3/jfs/xfs depending 
 on your usage.
 
 There is also a possiblility of using LVM2 snapshots also if you have LVM2 
 devices already set up.  I'm not sure how dirvish is for backup and I'm not 
 sure how good a loopback backup to a file really is anyway.  That depends on 
 the consistency of at least a partition anyway.  Maybe you are trying to 
 solve the wrong problem?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 02:25:30 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

  Which begs the question that if attempting to rebuild all the packages
  in a working system indicates blockers, how did the system get in that
  state and why did portage not indicate a blockage when the
  incompatible packages were installed or upgraded?

Because you are upgrading the packages. The versions you currently have
installed are not blockers, but the new versions are different.

 How are you doing your updates?  If you are not using the --deep
 option, I am not surprised that you never saw the blockers before,
 because portage will consider _only_ those packages actually in world
 for an update unless you use --deep.

That's not necessarily true, depending on the command used to update
world. emerge world only updates any packages in world and any forced
dependency updates. emerge --update world also considers first level
dependencies and updates those, even if the existing version satisfies
the world packages' dependencies.

As you say, emerge --deep --update world goes right down the tree. The
only packages --deep misses are those that are not in world and not
dependencies of world, i.e. non-dependent packages emerged with --oneshot.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Jerry McBride
On Friday 12 May 2006 01:57, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Jerry McBride wrote:
  Is this an Xorg 7.0 installation??

 Yep.

  Did you also include x11-apps/rgb??

 Yep - else I wouldn't have a /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt, would I? :)


Ok... fair enough... but I use /usr/share/X11/rgb and my color problems are 
gone...


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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Jerry McBride
On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:47, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 5/11/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
  glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up with
  two emerge -e world commands...

 Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...


Actually... nothing is wasted. I've read that this is the best way to rebuild 
the tool chain, then the applications. Sources that rely on other sources are 
guaranteed to be accurately built after the second pass of world


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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Alexander Skwar
Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Friday 12 May 2006 01:57, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Jerry McBride wrote:
  Is this an Xorg 7.0 installation??

 Yep.

  Did you also include x11-apps/rgb??

 Yep - else I wouldn't have a /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt, would I? :)

 
 Ok... fair enough... but I use /usr/share/X11/rgb and my color problems are 
 gone...

Well. Not here. I use

RgbPath /usr/share/X11/rgb

and this doesn't help at all.

As this has been introduced just recently, there must have been some change.
It used to work. Question: What has been changed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Bo Andresen
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 10:19, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Hi!

 Since a recent update, I always get error messages like the following,
 when I start certain applications (eg. xterm):

 Warning: Color name black is not defined
 xterm: Cannot allocate color red
 xterm: Cannot allocate color magenta

 On bgo, I found http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78385 which suggests
 to make sure that RgbPath is correct in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

 It is correct, I think:

 RgbPath /usr/share/X11/rgb

 [10:09:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ ls -la /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 10. Mai 10:07 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
[snip]
 Any ideas about what might be broken?

# ls -l /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 2006-04-07 03:03 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

# grep black /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
  0   0   0 black

# equery check rgb
[ Checking x11-apps/rgb-1.0.0 ]
 * 9 out of 9 files good

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[gentoo-user] static ip wont connect but dhcp will

2006-05-12 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I have my connection set to get an ip using dhcp and this works.  However if I 
try to use a static ip, by setting it in /etc/conf.d/net, it doesn't work, 
even if I try the ip I have been given by the dhcp server.  Nor does it work 
with an ip obtained using apipa.  I can ping other  parts of the local 
network but not out onto the internet.

the config I have in /etc/conf.d/net is :
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.14 netmask 255.255.255.0 )
routes_eth0=( default gw 192.168.1.1 )

When I run /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start I get green oks for everything, but 
trying to ping www.gentoo.org I get the following error, immediately:
ping: unknown host www.gentoo.org

Any clues as to what's up?

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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 12 May 2006 06:18, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1  glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!':
 On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:47, Richard Fish wrote:
  On 5/11/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
   glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up
   with two emerge -e world commands...
 
  Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...

 Actually... nothing is wasted.

Actually, that's quite a BIT of waste.  There's about 30(?), maybe more 
packages in system, depending on your use flags.  About 4-5 are your 
toolchain.  So, there's 25+ compiles wasted per system pass. You *might* 
need to compile your toolchain twice, but the critical package, gcc, 
already compiles itself twice.  It compiles a minimal gcc (C-only, just 
enough to compile full gcc, and very portable across toolchains) using the 
current toochain then compiles full gcc (all your use flags settings, and 
requires gnuC extensions) using that minimal gcc.  (That's the normal gcc 
build, not Gentoo specific.)

After that, you normally only need to compile your applications ONCE.  
Cyclic dependencies could require more than one compile for full effect, 
but those are bad for other reasons, and could make it to where you have 
to recompile MORE than TWICE, depending on their complexity.

In ANY case, you don't HAVE to rebuild you applications right away, and it 
would save you a few CPU cycles to just use the new compiler new time the 
package is updated.  If you are running ~ARCH that generally pretty 
often. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] static ip wont connect but dhcp will

2006-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 12 May 2006 07:27, Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] static ip wont connect but dhcp will':
 I have my connection set to get an ip using dhcp and this works.
  However if I try to use a static ip, by setting it in /etc/conf.d/net,
 it doesn't work, even if I try the ip I have been given by the dhcp
 server.
 When I run /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start I get green oks for everything, 
 but trying to ping www.gentoo.org I get the following error,
 immediately: ping: unknown host www.gentoo.org

 Any clues as to what's up?

Can you ping by ip address outside the network?  Try pinging these 
addresses -- they are various google servers near me:
64.233.167.104
64.233.167.147
64.233.167.99

Your problem sounds like not having a valid /etc/resolv.conf, which a part 
of the process in resolving names to ip addresses.

DHCP clients will often write this file based on the information received 
from the DHCP server, but they often save the old version and put it back 
into place when they shut down.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as a subsystem?

2006-05-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 12 May 2006 14:39, Yuan MEI wrote:

 embed the portage system into the already-installed system (in cygwin,
 other version of Linux or BSD, OSX...), and keep its functionality.

 I know there's a `Gentoo/BSD' project, but it's not good enough.
 Especially it doesn't work for OSX, which is essentially a BSD system.

You can learn about the status of gentoo portage for mac OSX here:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/macos/
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/macos/targets.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to do a world update! (Blocked by... )

2006-05-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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Graham Murray wrote:
 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 unmerge the blocking packages, coldplug, pam-login and ant-tasks. This
 usually happens because the functionality the package provides is now
 handled by something else that emerge world needs to bring it. This is
 certainly the case with udev now handling coldplug's job.
 
 Which begs the question that if attempting to rebuild all the packages
 in a working system indicates blockers, how did the system get in that
 state and why did portage not indicate a blockage when the incompatible
 packages were installed or upgraded?

Just because they are conflicting now doesn't mean that there was
conflicting packages before. Upgrades do happen, and things do change ;)
Every time you sync and get a new ebuild, you are generally getting a
new version of the package (assuming there is a new version available).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as a subsystem?

2006-05-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 12 May 2006 07:39, Yuan MEI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Gentoo as a subsystem?':
 Currently for newly shipped pc and mac, Operation systems are all
 pre-installed

Not true.  There are a number of companies that will ship you a computer 
without any operating system installed.

 and for recovery, 
 warranty, support and convenience reasons, it's usually not a good
 idea to re-partition the hard drive and install gentoo.

*Shrug*  I find I get much better support with Gentoo than I ever did with 
Windows.  My warranty covers my hardware, not my software.  It's more 
convenient (that is, I'm more productive) running Gentoo than Windows.  As 
far as recovery goes, I've recovered from a corrupt initrd, some 
fat-fingering during a HW RAID upgrade, deleting the contents of /dev, 
LVM/device-mapper conflict, (2) occurances of glibc getting borked, and 
numerous other small problems -- most of those would spell 
R-E-I-N-S-T-A-L-L if I was running windows.

So, I guess I'd have to disagree with you.  It's for those very reasons 
that I'd blow away ALL partitions and install gentoo.  (As opposed to 
resizing one and installing gentoo in the free space.)

 So, is there any way to 
 embed the portage system into the already-installed system (in cygwin,
 other version of Linux or BSD, OSX...), and keep its functionality.

Portage and the portage tree should be installable on any unix-like system 
that has python and rsync available.  'Course, it's probably not going to 
do what your want...

 My concern is that we normal users don't have to fight with the
 hardware drivers, the strange software and hardware we have to use.
 These stuff should be done by manufactures, and we purchased them when
 we buy the computers. 

And drivers *by their very nature* are OS specific.  You don't seriously 
think that there's a magic way for Gentoo to access hardware using a 
windows or mac driver, do you?  There was some wrappers out there (like 
ndiswrapper) but certainly no generic framework.

As far as Linux goes, you can always use the kernel (and modules) provided 
by your HW vendor.  Just add a line or two to package.provided.

 But we still need some freedom, some 
 controlablily with our own computers, and some fun, so we just embed
 the favorite system into the pre-installed system, and use it.  Maybe
 windows with cygwin is not a good start, but OSX on mac should be.  Is
 there anyone would like to figure a way for this?

I understand the sentiment.  You want the HW support provided by your 
vendor, but you want the software tools provided by Gentoo/GNU/Linux.  
Might I suggest in the future you purchase your HW with Gentoo 
preinstalled?  Also, you might want to become part of the solution by 
making HW suport in Linux better.

Oh, you might also look into coLinux instead of cygwin, I think Gentoo 
support is better that way.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 ohne Hintergrundbild

2006-05-12 Thread Uwe Klosa
Hi Bertram

You should write in English the next time.

Wie Du in der anderen Antwort sehen konntest solltet Du auch xfce4-4.3.90.1 in 
der Datei /etc/portage/package.keywords eintragen. So
kannst Du mit allen Paketen verfahren, die von emerge als masked bezeichnet 
werden.

Uwe

Bertram Scharpf wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 im Xfce4 habe habe ich ein Hintergrundbild eingestellt. Auf
 einem anderen System, wo auch 4.2.3.2 installiert ist, wird
 dies auch angezeigt. Hier allerdings bleibt der Hintergrund
 einfarbig stahlgrau. Legt sich das wieder bei einem späteren
 syncupdate? Kann man sonst etwas tun?
 
 Alternativ würde ich auch Version 4.3 installieren. Ich habe
 alles entmaskiert, dessen ich im Zusammenhang mit Xfce4
 habhaft werden konnte, die Meldung bleibt aber:
 
   !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =xfce4-4.3.90.1 have been masked.
   !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your 
 request:
   - xfce-base/xfce4-4.3.90.1 (masked by: package.mask)
   ## Daniel Ostrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20 Apr 2006)
   ## XFCE 4.4 beta1
 
 Was geht da vor sich?
 
 Danke im voraus,
 
 Bertram
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Mark Shields
On 5/12/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 12 May 2006 08:03, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wroteabout 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)': On 5/12/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  On Thursday 11 May 2006 22:18, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote  about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)':
   Weird.   Yeah, especially since the /same/ type of blackbox (no auth, just  cable-ethernet translation) for cable service is called a cable  modem, at least in my circles. *boggle*/snip
 DSL and cable modems are different.DSL uses PPPoE.A cable modem does not.I know, I've used both services.In his case he's got a black box that hejust plugs in to his DSL connection (no auth he has to set up) and plugs
his ethernet into that black box.In my case I've got a black box that Ijust plug in to my cable connection (no auth I have to set up) and plug myethernet into that black box.My blackbox is called a modem.His blackbox is called a router.That is
WEIRD.I have digital cable, so my box does not MOdulate/DEModulate asignal.His connection is analog (probably) so his box doesMOdulate/DEModulate a signal.My blackbox is called a modem.His blackbox is called a router.THAT. IS.
FSCKING. *WEIRD*.I used to have a DSL modem (actually, it's probably still around,somewhere).It required me to run PPPoE software (to enterusername/password) on the computer hooked directly to it via ethernet.
He's got a DSL router that does any PPPoE needed inside the router andjust provides an IP address (over ethernet of course) via DHCP.--If there's one thing we've established over the years,
it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightestclue what's best for them in terms of package stability.-- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreeshCalling a cable modem such is a misnomer, unless you're using a one-way cable modem, in which case there is modulation/demodulation going on (if the cable modem still connects to an analog line). The name cable modem stuck even when 2-way modems were created.
 He's got a DSL router My blackbox is called a modem.  His blackbox is called a router.  THAT. IS. FSCKING. *WEIRD*.Partially correct. He has a DSL modem/router combo box. It's not weird when you stop and thinking about it (and actually understand it).
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Re: [gentoo-user] wine CVS does not find freetype on amd64

2006-05-12 Thread Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov

On 5/12/06, Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov wrote:
 Please direct me to a more appropriate mailing list if such exists.

You probably won't find much help on the gentoo list about this.

Start here: http://www.winehq.com/site/getting_help ..I would chat in
there IRC channel and forums. Good luck!


Indeed the wine forums/groups are a good idea that I haven't thought of.

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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 07:27:14 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up
with two emerge -e world commands...
  
   Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...
 
  Actually... nothing is wasted.
 
 Actually, that's quite a BIT of waste.  There's about 30(?), maybe more 
 packages in system, depending on your use flags.  About 4-5 are your 
 toolchain.  So, there's 25+ compiles wasted per system pass.

And system is included in emerge -e world, so you are actually compiling
these packages four times!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 09:03:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

 DSL and cable modems are different.  DSL uses PPPoE.  A cable modem does
 not.

Not necessarily. In the UK, ADSL uses PPPoA but all of the ethernet
modems I've used, including plain modems with no routing capabilities,
use plain old ethernet to talk to the computer.

From my computer's point of view, connecting to my ADSL modem and cable
modem are identical.


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[gentoo-user] GCC info docs?

2006-05-12 Thread Michael J. Barillier
I'd rather not dive into the guts of portage - Does anyone know why
gcc's info docs aren't being installed anymore?  Oversight, or what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Mark Shields
On 5/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 12 May 2006 09:03:19 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: DSL and cable modems are different.DSL uses PPPoE.A cable modem does not.Not necessarily. In the UK, ADSL uses PPPoA but all of the ethernet
modems I've used, including plain modems with no routing capabilities,use plain old ethernet to talk to the computer.From my computer's point of view, connecting to my ADSL modem and cablemodem are identical.
It was a general statement. As I stated, my experience with DSL is limited. My experience came from using a DSL modem in the U.S. From a quick google search, PPPoA (PPP over ATM) is generally for internal DSL modems; however, thank you for the correction.
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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Christopher E

Hello all,

I thank you all fo responses to this posting of mine.

Now that I was following this thread I just read the one that states
that the emerge -e world does also emerge -e system stuff, so now that
I am in the mid of doing emerge -e system how can I run emerge -e
world with out doing all of them again and only doing the ones that
did not get done doing a emerge -e system?

Thanks ahead of time

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 12 May 2006 07:27:14 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up
with two emerge -e world commands...
  
   Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...
 
  Actually... nothing is wasted.

 Actually, that's quite a BIT of waste.  There's about 30(?), maybe more
 packages in system, depending on your use flags.  About 4-5 are your
 toolchain.  So, there's 25+ compiles wasted per system pass.

And system is included in emerge -e world, so you are actually compiling
these packages four times!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:51:50 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

 My experience came from using a DSL modem in the U.S.  From a quick
 google search, PPPoA (PPP over ATM) is generally for internal DSL
 modems;

Not over here. The main UK DSL network uses ATM, irrespective of modem
type.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Mark Shields
On 5/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:51:50 -0400, Mark Shields wrote: My experience came from using a DSL modem in the U.S.From a quick google search, PPPoA (PPP over ATM) is generally for internal DSL modems;
Not over here. The main UK DSL network uses ATM, irrespective of modemtype.I'm not saying your doesn't. I said From a quick google search, PPPoA (PPP over ATM) is generally for internal DSL
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[gentoo-user] postgresql

2006-05-12 Thread pat
HI all,

I've installed a postgres SQL and trying to connect into it. Does the
installation contains a testing DB ??? Is there a super user for the it
(somethink like sysdb, system etc. in oracle) and if yes what is its default 
passwd.

I've tryed google and documentation on the postgresql.org but without luck. The
DBs are not my cup of tea, but I need them :-|

Thanks

Pat
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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC info docs?

2006-05-12 Thread Philip Webb
060512 Michael J. Barillier wrote:
 I'd rather not dive into the guts of portage -
 Does anyone know why gcc's info docs aren't being installed anymore?
 Oversight, or what?

Mine seems to have installed 'info'  'man' files :

  equery files gcc
  ...
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/cpp.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/cppinternals.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/g77.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/gcc.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/gccinstall.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/gccint.info.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man1/cpp.1.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man1/g++.1.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man1/g77.1.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man1/gcc.1.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man1/gcov.1.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man7/fsf-funding.7.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man7/gfdl.7.gz
  /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/man/man7/gpl.7.gz

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Re: [gentoo-user] postgresql

2006-05-12 Thread Bruno Lustosa

On 5/12/06, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've installed a postgres SQL and trying to connect into it. Does the
installation contains a testing DB ??? Is there a super user for the it
(somethink like sysdb, system etc. in oracle) and if yes what is its default 
passwd.


The superuser for postgresql is 'postgres'. You can su to root, and
then 'su postgres' to connect to the database, as the postgres user
doesn't have a password by default.
You can use the template1 database to connect to the server, and then
create more databases. So:

$ su root
Password:
# su postgres
$ psql template1

Hope this helps

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Re: [gentoo-user] try gentoo again?....LIVE version device support?

2006-05-12 Thread Mark Shields
On 5/10/06, ted leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Feed up with a few other distros, i am giving GENTOO another look.I tried it when it first came out and had .. hmmm.  a bit of trouble.I assume things are alot more refined now.I am looking for a distro to base a LIVE DVD (or CD) from,
Can anyone comment on how good GENTOO LIVE CD is on device detection,in particular Network cards, USB, and to a lesser extent graphics/monitors.If someone, in the know, could compare GENTOO against say SUSE or Knoppix in that
area, that would be very helpfull.I produce a LIVE DVD for a company, and SUSE has made a pretty good bases,but their release cycle is not to quick, and of course GENTOO, a good thing in this case,has almost a perpetual release cycle.
In particular, DELL has started selling PC's with no PS2 ports for keyboards/mice,and thats taking its toll on distros that were released last year.So I am contemplating moving to GENTOO, but I can't test the device recognition
on other then a few machines I have, but when I release it to my target audience,it has to work 99.99% across 400+ employees computers, which can be just aboutany computer of recent vintage, including of course brand new Dells with no ps2 ports.
-tl--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing listGENTOO has no problem working with USB keyboard/mice. I used a KVM switch which uses a USB port to hook up both keyboard and mouse(bothPS/2) to one PC, and it worked fine. This was, however, with the universal install cd for x86. The HID device support is built-in the kernel, and if you're going to build a live cd from scatch (Gentoo even has instructions on their website on how to do this with their distro), just make sure to compile HID device support into the kernel.
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[gentoo-user] How to make new windows not get focus on Gnome-2.14 ?

2006-05-12 Thread Bruno Lustosa

Hello.

This is kind of irritating. All new windows on gnome get the focus
automatically. So, I'm typing something and then a window appears and
I have to get back to the window where I was typing to continue.
I have looked on gnome-control-center and on metacity properties, but
I couldn't find anything related to this. I also looked on
gconf-editor, but didn't find anything.
It seems the gnome usability team loves trimming useful configuration
options for the sake of not confusing users (i.e. treating users as
dumb beasts).
So, does anyone know how to make metacity behave like this? I might
have overlooked some configuration somewhere.

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[gentoo-user] Startup Script Help

2006-05-12 Thread Drew Tomlinson
Every time there's a power outage at my home, my Gentoo box fails to 
start.  This is because it attempts to configure the network via DHCP 
before my DHCP server has finished its startup.  Thus I'm trying to 
think of a way to get the Gentoo box to wait a few minutes if DHCP 
fails on boot up.  I've thought about making a simple script with the 
'sleep' command and putting it in the boot runlevel but I really don't 
want it to wait on every reboot.  Thus it seems there must be a way to 
modify the network startup script so that if DHCP fails, then it sleeps 
before trying again.  Then maybe after so many DHCP failures, it finally 
uses a static configuration.  However my scripting knowledge is limited 
so if someone would point me in the right direction, I'd really 
appreciate it.


Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] GCC info docs?

2006-05-12 Thread Michael J. Barillier
 pw == Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

pw 060512 Michael J. Barillier wrote:
 I'd rather not dive into the guts of portage - Does anyone know
 why gcc's info docs aren't being installed anymore?  Oversight,
 or what?

pw Mine seems to have installed 'info'  'man' files :

pw   equery files gcc ...
pw /usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.5/info/cpp.info.gz
[snip]

Ah, so there they are.  Didn't run equery, just looked in the usual
places (/usr/info, etc.).

Thanks, I'll update `Info-directory-list' accordingly ...

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[gentoo-user] Benchmarking software for Kernel revisions

2006-05-12 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Hi folks:

I just rebuilt one of my kernels that I had originally installed from
the Installer disk.  As expected, the kernel was HUGE, BLOATED and NASTY
- I expected it going in, so not a huge problem,  the system seems more
peppy, but I would really like to find a package that would allow me to
put numbers to that rather subjective assessment -- something I could
run right before a kernel rebuild and then again after to see a
difference in performance

Thanks

TIM


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as a subsystem?

2006-05-12 Thread stupendoussteve


On Fri, 12 May 2006, Yuan MEI wrote:

 for retrieving and managing the software.  So, is there any way to
 embed the portage system into the already-installed system (in cygwin,
 other version of Linux or BSD, OSX...), and keep its functionality.


Someone already sent you the Gentoo/MACOS link, here's the Gentoo/cygwin
;) https://sourceforge.net/projects/gentoocygwin/

They have a mailing list which is managed through the main Gentoo page, I
believe. It's still in alpha though, I've personally never managed to get
it working. But it could!
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[gentoo-user]

2006-05-12 Thread Jeremy Gransden


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Re: [gentoo-user] Startup Script Help

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 09:23:06 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

 Every time there's a power outage at my home, my Gentoo box fails to 
 start.  This is because it attempts to configure the network via DHCP 
 before my DHCP server has finished its startup.  Thus I'm trying to 
 think of a way to get the Gentoo box to wait a few minutes if DHCP 
 fails on boot up.  I've thought about making a simple script with the 
 'sleep' command and putting it in the boot runlevel but I really don't 
 want it to wait on every reboot.  Thus it seems there must be a way to 
 modify the network startup script so that if DHCP fails, then it sleeps 
 before trying again.  Then maybe after so many DHCP failures, it
 finally uses a static configuration.

You can do all this in /etc/conf.d/net

# set the dhcp timeout to 3 minutes
dhcpcd_eth0=-t 180 

# create static fallback options
fallback_eth0=( 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 )
fallback_route_eth0=( default via 192.168.0.1 )

See /etc/conf.d/net.example


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 12 May 2006 11:31:59 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

  Not over here. The main UK DSL network uses ATM, irrespective of modem
  type.
 
 
 I'm not saying your doesn't.  I said 
 From a quick
  google search, PPPoA (PPP over ATM) is generally for internal DSL
  modems;

I don't want to get into an argument over this, but your information
seems rather US-centric. I can assure you that in the UK, the use of
PPPoA has absolutely nothing to do with the type of modem. However, I'm
prepared to accept that our national telecom provider may be doing things
differently from everyone else because they can :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Startup Script Help

2006-05-12 Thread Jeremy Olexa
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Drew Tomlinson wrote:
 Every time there's a power outage at my home, my Gentoo box fails to
 start.  This is because it attempts to configure the network via DHCP
 before my DHCP server has finished its startup.  Thus I'm trying to
 think of a way to get the Gentoo box to wait a few minutes if DHCP
 fails on boot up.  I've thought about making a simple script with the
 'sleep' command and putting it in the boot runlevel but I really don't
 want it to wait on every reboot.  Thus it seems there must be a way to
 modify the network startup script so that if DHCP fails, then it sleeps
 before trying again.  Then maybe after so many DHCP failures, it finally
 uses a static configuration.  However my scripting knowledge is limited
 so if someone would point me in the right direction, I'd really
 appreciate it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Drew
 

You want ifplugd.

It will allow you to boot the machine even if there is not DHCP response
and then do the appropriate action when the DHCP server comes back up.
Try that out, maybe it will suit your needs.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] use shfs

2006-05-12 Thread Marco Calviani

Hi list,
 i have a question regarding shfs. I'm use to connect a remote
computer (let's call it C) from a linux machine (A) via ssh passing
through a *nix gateway (B). I would like to be able to transfer data
from C to A as easy as possible. Since B works only as a gateway i'm
not able to save anything into it. Is there a way to use shfs (or
similar) in order to reach this objective?

Many thanks,
MC

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[gentoo-user] Build error in threads.c, maybe related to nptlonly use flag.

2006-05-12 Thread Bob Young

Hi all,

In advance please pardon the long post.

I'm trying to do a  stage 1/3 install as described here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-345229.html

I've successfully rebuilt the tool chain and am at the stage of rebuilding
the system with the new toolchain. Unfortunately I've encountered a build
error with krb5-1.4.3 that I don't know how to solve. The following is what
I believe to be the relevent output from #emerge -e system



 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking krb5-1.4.3-signed.tar to /var/tmp/portage/mit-krb5-1.4.3/work
 Applying mit-krb5-lazyldflags.patch ...
 Source unpacked.
 * econf: updating krb5-1.4.3/src/config/config.guess with
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess
 * econf: updating krb5-1.4.3/src/config/config.sub with
/usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man
 --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localsta
tedir=/var/lib --without-krb4 --without-tcl --enable-ipv6 --disable-static -
-with-system-db --localstatedir=/etc --enable-shared --with-system-et --with
-system-ss --enable-dns-for-realm --libdir=/usr/lib64 --build=x86_64-pc-linu
x-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
checking for C compiler default output... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc accepts -g... yes
.
.
.
.
configure: enabling thread support
checking for the pthreads library -lpthreads... no
checking whether pthreads work without any flags... no
checking whether pthreads work with -Kthread... no
checking whether pthreads work with -kthread... no
checking for the pthreads library -llthread... no
checking whether pthreads work with -pthread... yes
checking for joinable pthread attribute... PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE
checking if more special flags are required for pthreads... no
checking for cc_r... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
configure: PTHREAD_CC = x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
configure: PTHREAD_CFLAGS = -pthread
configure: PTHREAD_LIBS =
checking for pthread_once... no
checking for pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np... no
checking for pthread_rwlock_init... no
configure: rechecking with PTHREAD_... options
checking for pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np in -lc... yes
checking for pthread_rwlock_init in -lc... yes
configure: disabling static libraries
configure: enabling shared libraries
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
.
.
.
.
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/mit-krb5-1.4.3/work/krb5-1.4.3/src/util'
making all in util/support...
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/mit-krb5-1.4.3/work/krb5-1.4.3/src/util/support'
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -fPIC -DSHARED -DPACKAGE_NAME=\\ -DPACKAGE_TARNAME
=\\ -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\\ -DPACKAGE_STRING=\\ -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\\ 
-DKRB5_PRIVATE=1 -DKRB5_DEPRECATED=1 -DKRB5_DNS_LOOKUP_KDC=1 -DKRB5_DNS_LOOK
UP_REALM=1 -DKRB5_DNS_LOOKUP=1 -DHAVE_LIBRESOLV=1 -DHAVE_RES_NINIT=1 -DHAVE_
RES_NCLOSE=1 -DHAVE_RES_NSEARCH=1 -DHAVE_DN_SKIPNAME=1 -DHAVE_RES_SEARCH=1 -
DHAVE_PRAGMA_WEAK_REF=1 -DDELAY_INITIALIZER=1 -DCONSTRUCTOR_ATTR_WORKS=1 -DD
ESTRUCTOR_ATTR_WORKS=1 -DENABLE_THREADS=1 -DHAVE_PTHREAD=1 -DHAVE_PTHREAD_MU
TEXATTR_SETROBUST_NP_IN_THREAD_LIB=1 -DHAVE_PTHREAD_RWLOCK_INIT_IN_THREAD_LI
B=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_
H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1 -DHAVE_STRINGS_H=1 -DHAVE_INTTYPES_H
=1 -DHAVE_STDINT_H=1 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMMOVE=1 -DHAVE_REGCOMP=1 -DG
ETSOCKNAME_ARG2_TYPE=struct\
sockaddr -DGETSOCKNAME_ARG3_TYPE=socklen_t -DGETPEERNAME_ARG2_TYPE=GETSOCKNA
ME_ARG2_TYPE -DGETPEERNAME_ARG3_TYPE=GETSOCKNAME_ARG3_TYPE -DHAVE_LIBUTIL=1 
-DHAVE_SYSLOG_H=1 -DHAVE_STDARG_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SELECT_H=1 -DHAVE_IFADDRS_H=1
 -DHAVE_UNISTD_H=1 -DHAVE_OPENLOG=1 -DHAVE_SYSLOG=1 -DHAVE_CLOSELOG=1 -DHAVE
_STRFTIME=1 -DHAVE_VSPRINTF=1 -DNEED_SWAB_PROTO=1 -DHAVE_STRUCT_SOCKADDR_STO
RAGE=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_SOCKET_H=1 -DHAVE_NETINET_IN_H=1 -DHA
VE_NETDB_H=1 -DHAVE_INET_NTOP=1 -DHAVE_INET_PTON=1 -DHAVE_GETNAMEINFO=1 -DHA
VE_GETADDRINFO=1 -DKRB5_USE_INET6=1 -DPOSIX_SIGNALS=1 -DUSE_RCACHE=1 -DRETSI
GTYPE=void -DHAVE_GETHOSTBYNAME_R=1 -DHAVE_GETSERVBYNAME_R=1 -DHAVE_GMTIME_R
=1 -DHAVE_LOCALTIME_R=1   -I../../include -I./../../include -I../../include/
krb5 -I./../../include/krb5 -I. -I.  -march=opteron -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-p
ointer -ftracer -pthread -c threads.c -o threads.so.o  mv -f threads.so.o
threads.so
threads.c: In function `krb5int_pthread_loaded':
threads.c:145: error: `pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np' undeclared (first use
in this function)
threads.c:145: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
threads.c:145: error: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [threads.so] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory

Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Alexander Skwar

Bo Andresen wrote:

On Wednesday 10 May 2006 10:19, Alexander Skwar wrote:

Hi!

Since a recent update, I always get error messages like the following,
when I start certain applications (eg. xterm):

Warning: Color name black is not defined
xterm: Cannot allocate color red
xterm: Cannot allocate color magenta

On bgo, I found http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78385 which suggests
to make sure that RgbPath is correct in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

It is correct, I think:

RgbPath /usr/share/X11/rgb

[10:09:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ ls -la /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 10. Mai 10:07 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

[snip]

Any ideas about what might be broken?


# ls -l /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17371 2006-04-07 03:03 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

# grep black /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
  0   0   0 black

# equery check rgb
[ Checking x11-apps/rgb-1.0.0 ]
 * 9 out of 9 files good


[19:06:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ grep black /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt
  0   0   0 black
[19:06:49 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ equery check rgb
[ Checking x11-apps/rgb-1.0.0 ]
 * 9 out of 9 files good

Yep. So? What to do? Why is the system not finding the definition
of the color black? Where does it look for the definition? And how
do I add a color (like: black) to these definitions? Obviously,
/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt is not used as a source for these definitions.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry! (was: Xfce4 ohne Hintergrundbild)

2006-05-12 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Am Freitag, 12. Mai 2006, 09:20:57 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf:
 Hallo,
 
 im Xfce4 habe habe ich ein Hintergrundbild eingestellt. Auf
 [...]

Sorry, wrong list.

I apologize.

Bertram


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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/12/06, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and
this method doesnt keep versions.  Trying to keep incrementals using
this has proven to be a disaster.


Again, checkout dar.  It is specifically designed for doing
differential backups.  As an example:

# full backup
dar --create /media/backups/20060513 --empty-dir -H0 --nodump -O -N -g /

# differntial/incremental backup
dare --create /media/backups/20060514 --empty-dir -H0 --nodump -O -N \
   --ref /media/backups/20060513 -g /

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher

William Kenworthy wrote, regarding Squashfs:
 and you need at least the
 uncompressed space to create the image ... not useful here. 

Wrong, you need sufficient disk space to create the compressed filesystem,
that is all.

Phillip Lougher



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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher

ted leslie wrote:
 big negative (unless fixed in recent releases) is you need enough ram/VM
 to hold the entire
 fs (to be compressed) in memory. So if you have 512MB ram and a 1GB VM
 allocation,
 the biggest fs you can archive using cloop/squashfs would be 2.5GB
 (approx), that compresses down to
 the 1GB to fit into your VM. 

This isn't the case for Squashfs (and never has been).  Prior to version
3.0, mksquashfs could create a 4GB compressed filesystem irrespective of the
amount of free memory/VM in the host computer.  In version 3.0, the 4 GB
filesystem limit has been removed, and filesystem sizes are potentially
unlimited.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Build error in threads.c, maybe related to nptlonly use flag.

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/12/06, Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

checking for pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np... no

snip

checking for pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np in -lc... yes



threads.c:145: error: `pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np' undeclared (first use
in this function)



I think the nptl nptlonly  use flags are relevant to this, but am not
sure. I know the kerberos flag is related, but since the box will be
interacting with an Active Directory domain controler kerberos seems
appropiate to have.


Not an nptl issue, looks like a bug in the configure to me.

The configure is finding that glibc has the
pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np function, so in threads.c it is
activating this piece of code:

# ifdef HAVE_PTHREAD_MUTEXATTR_SETROBUST_NP_IN_THREAD_LIB
   || pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np == 0
# endif

However, looking at /usr/include/pthread.h, we find this:

#ifdef __USE_GNU
/* Get the robustness flag of the mutex attribute ATTR.  */
extern int pthread_mutexattr_getrobust_np (__const pthread_mutexattr_t *__attr,
  int *__robustness) __THROW;

/* Set the robustness flag of the mutex attribute ATTR.  */
extern int pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np (pthread_mutexattr_t *__attr,
  int __robustness) __THROW;
#endif

So these functions are GNU only, and a program is supposed to set the
define the __USE_GNU flag if it wants to use them.

This has already been reported to bugzilla, with patches:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125966

If you don't want to try and patch it yourself, try masking out this
version of mit-krb in /etc/portage/package.mask so you build the
previous one.


Comment: Okay...It's available in -lc what does that mean?


That the function is available in glibc (GNU libc).


and if it's available why is it causing a build error?


The program didn't see the prototype of the function, because it
didn't define __USE_GNU


Comment: What does -lc mean?


Link against the 'c' library.  The linker adds a 'lib' prefix and a
'.so' suffix to whatever is passed to the -l option, to come up with
libc.so.

Another example, -lqt means to link against libqt.so.


Would declaring
pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np as external on the condition of some define
solve the problem?


Actually, that _is_ the problem!!


Again sorry for the long post,


No problem, you gave _plenty_ of information to figure out what was
wrong.  Always a good thing!

-Richard

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[gentoo-user] KDE blocking itself?

2006-05-12 Thread Jeff
Hey all. Check this out:

emerge kde -p

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kicker-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdepasswd-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdebase-data-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcontrol-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdm-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/khotkeys-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kcminit-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdesu-3.5* (is blocking kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/libkonq-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1
[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kde-3.5.2

What am I doing wrong here? Most puzzling.

Any help, greatly appreciated!

-Jeff

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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher

William Kenworthy wrote
 This is what I currently use: But I dont have room for two archives, and
 this method doesnt keep versions.  Trying to keep incrementals using
 this has proven to be a disaster. 

Even though Squashfs is read-only (and so is tar, cpio etc.), you can append
to pre-existing Squashfs filesystems without needing to decompress and then
recompress the filesystem.  Because Squashfs detects duplicates, and renames
duplicated files (in the top level directory) at appending, this supports
simple incremental versioning.

For example, you could archive directory data, delete it, and later add
directories a and b to the archive without needing the disk space to
decompress directory data.

If you kept the data directory, and later added new files to it, or
modified files, adding the data directory to the Squashfs archive a second
time would create two directories data, the first version, and data_1
the second version.  Only files that have been added or have changed in the
data directory will be added to the Squashfs archive, the other files
(presumably the bulk) will be be detected as duplicates and not added.

Phillip Lougher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Startup Script Help

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/12/06, Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You want ifplugd.

It will allow you to boot the machine even if there is not DHCP response
and then do the appropriate action when the DHCP server comes back up.
Try that out, maybe it will suit your needs.


Actually I don't think ifplugd will work in this case.  It lets the
box come up without a physical network link, but presumably as long as
he had that, the box would still try to come up.

Depending upon what services you run on this box, you might set
RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=lo in /etc/conf.d/rc.  It will let the net
dependancy be satisfied by just having the local loopback device, and
the box should boot fine (and quickly!).  The dhcp client will
continue in the background trying to obtain an address for eth0.

This won't work if you run some services that insist on attaching to
specific addresses...named for example.  But most other services
attach to the 'all addresses' interface of 0.0.0,0, so they should be
fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Glibc-2.4 and Gcc-4.0.3??

2006-05-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 03:57, Jerry McBride wrote:
 Anyone here running a ~x86 box and have the latest glibc and a 4.0.3 gcc
 running on it?

any good reasons not to use gcc 4.1?

gcc 4.0.X has a lot of annoying bugs - and several of them are fixed in 
4.1 ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/12/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:47, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 5/11/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
  glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up with
  two emerge -e world commands...

 Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...


Actually... nothing is wasted. I've read that this is the best way to rebuild
the tool chain, then the applications. Sources that rely on other sources are
guaranteed to be accurately built after the second pass of world


I'm sorry, but what you read was simply wrong, written by somebody who
probably didn't understand how compilers, linkers, dynamic libraries,
and executables interact.

I could see _some_ value in emerge -e system followed by emerge -e
world.  There can be some (very small) effects of system packages on
each other.  But you are building system again when you emerge -e
world, and there is simply no reason at all to emerge -e world twice.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 11 May 2006 15:25, Christopher E wrote:
 Hello All,

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

yes, you can have them both installed.

If you are using kdm as login manager, click on 'menu' and select 'session 
type' to choose which DE should be started.

You can even have them both running at the same time!

Start X. like with gdm, log in, open an xterm,type:
xinit -e xterm -- :1

voila, a second X session on alf+ctrl+f8 was started. Now you can start any 
desktop you want there, and switch back to the original instance on F7.

Isn't that pure luxury?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Build error in threads.c, maybe related to nptlonly use flag.

2006-05-12 Thread Bob Young


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Richard Fish
 Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:48 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Build error in threads.c, maybe related to
 nptlonly use flag.
 
 Not an nptl issue, looks like a bug in the configure to me.
 
 The configure is finding that glibc has the
 pthread_mutexattr_setrobust_np function, so in threads.c it is
 activating this piece of code:
 
Thanks for the detailed explaination and the solution, much appreciated.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Startup Script Help

2006-05-12 Thread John Jolet

Drew Tomlinson wrote:

Every time there's a power outage at my home, my Gentoo box fails to 
start.  This is because it attempts to configure the network via DHCP 
before my DHCP server has finished its startup.  Thus I'm trying to 
think of a way to get the Gentoo box to wait a few minutes if DHCP 
fails on boot up.  I've thought about making a simple script with the 
'sleep' command and putting it in the boot runlevel but I really don't 
want it to wait on every reboot.  Thus it seems there must be a way to 
modify the network startup script so that if DHCP fails, then it 
sleeps before trying again.  Then maybe after so many DHCP failures, 
it finally uses a static configuration.  However my scripting 
knowledge is limited so if someone would point me in the right 
direction, I'd really appreciate it.


Thanks,

Drew


and putting your dhcp server on a ups is out of the question?

try creating an /etc/rc.local and putting /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start 
in it.  then run it on runlevel 2 in your inittab.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread plougher

Richard Fish write:
 From what I can tell, there are no really good compressing filesystems
available currently.

I would disagree, Squashfs is an advanced read-only compressing filesystem,
which uses numerous techniques to obtaIn high compression ratios while also
being fast.  Some of the techniques (compressed metadata, use of fragment
blocks, indexed compressed directories) I doubt you'll find many places
elsewhere irrespective of the operating system.

What I would agree with is there is no commercial support for compressing
filesystems, which at a time where the major improvements to the Linux
kernel are (arguably) being driven by the Linux distribution vendors, is a
major limitation.  Unfortunately, embedded systems vendors tend to simply
use what is there, and the others are mainly focussed on the enterprise
which is why there's a lot of enterprise scale and clustering filesystems
about.

 But why do you need to do this in the filesystem?  Why not use a
 compressible format for your backups like tar, cpio, or (my favorite)
 dar? 

So you can mount the filesystem and transparently access the files as if
they were uncompressed.

Phillip Lougher

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE blocking itself?

2006-05-12 Thread Jeff
That's what I was thinking! GAH! Excuse me while I go beat the *USER*
who used root to do EVIL! Bad user... bad, naughty user...

Thanks for the tip Fish.

Richard Fish wrote:
 On 5/12/06, Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hey all. Check this out:

 emerge kde -p

 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B ] =kde-base/khelpcenter-3.5* (is blocking
 kde-base/kdebase-3.5.2-r1)

 What am I doing wrong here? Most puzzling.
 
 
 You are trying to merge the kde monolithic builds when you already
 have the modular builds installed.  They are incompatible.
 
 Perhaps you wanted emerge -p kde-meta?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 [solved]

2006-05-12 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Freitag, 12. Mai 2006, 01:44:14 -0600 schrieb Justin Findlay:
 On 5/12/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =xfce4-4.3.90.1 have been masked.
   !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your 
   request:
   - xfce-base/xfce4-4.3.90.1 (masked by: package.mask)
   ## Daniel Ostrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] (20 Apr 2006)
   ## XFCE 4.4 beta1
 
 Man.  I wish I knew German.

Another time I apologize for having reached the wrong list.
So, I have to thank the more for your answer.

 All the same, I would suggest copying the
 entire xfce mask from /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask to your
 /etc/portage/package.unmask.  This should enable you to emerge
 xfce4-4.3.90.1.

I had both to copy these to /etc/portage/package.unmask and
to insert them into /etc/portage/package.keywords, each line
extended by  ~x86.

No it compiles. In suspense,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-12 Thread Nagatoro
Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Nagatoro wrote:
 
 But the deal breaker for me is the color support. It's not nearly as
 good as xterm or rxvt(-unicode) (here my bash prompt that is set to some
 nice colors is displayed as underlined in gnome-terminal and blinking in
 konsole).
 
 Could you maybe provide screenshots? If you don't have webspace

http://dx.homelinux.org/gentoo/

Note that the prompt for konsole is blinking ie invisible every other
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-12 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Nagatoro wrote:
 Note that the prompt for konsole is blinking ie invisible every other
 second.

What is the output of:

# echo $PS1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Intel 82865g

2006-05-12 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval

On 10/05/06, Fernando Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





Hi, I'm use a Xorg version 7.0.0 and the video card Intel 82865G, and Xorg
don't work with vesa or fbdev, Any ideas?



Thanks




Saludos

Fernando Ferrari

Desarrollador Linux

http://fernandorferrari.blogspot.com






Why dont you use the i810 driver?
I have this setting in my xorg.conf and xorg-7 it's working correctly

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Re: [gentoo-user] What can I use for a compressed file system?

2006-05-12 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/12/06, plougher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Richard Fish write:
 From what I can tell, there are no really good compressing filesystems
available currently.

I would disagree, Squashfs is an advanced read-only compressing filesystem,


I should have said read-write filesystem.

What I would really like to see is something like reiser4's plugin
scheme brought up to the VFS layer in the kernel, so that any
filesystem could gain transparent compression.  I have no use for
compression on backup disks, since I use programs that support
compression internally.  But I would love to be able to compress my
normal filesystems /, /var, and /usr/portage.  Being a laptop user, I
could actually get more speed from those volumes if they were
compressed, depending upon the algorithm used.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Video Intel 82865g

2006-05-12 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 21:37, Fernando Ferrari wrote:
 Hi, I'm use a Xorg version 7.0.0 and the video card Intel 82865G, and Xorg
 don't work with vesa or fbdev, Any ideas?

Use it with i810 driver? I had a 865GV board and it worked fine with i810 
driver. What is the compulsion behind using vesa?

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[gentoo-user] kmcinit

2006-05-12 Thread James
Hello,

Hello,

Recently, my kde login hangs. The process I have to kill of to
get the kde login session to complete is

17813 100 0.0 2272 412 ? R 19:59 1:40
xrdb -quiet -merge /tmp/kde-james/kcminitWQBDHB.tmp

xrdb is not even install, yet someting in the kde login session tries to
run xrdb.
* kde-base/kdebase

Installed:   3.2.3-r1 3.3.2-r3 3.4.3-r1


Ideas on fixings this are most welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-user] After gcc-3.4.6-r1 glibc-2.4-r2 emerge!

2006-05-12 Thread Jerry McBride

I can't find the exact discussion on the subject of running two emerges for 
both system and world, but this link gives the kernel of the idea. The 
original doc went into some details that's missing here and as mentioned, 
following the suggestions helped clear up some goofy mplayer problems I was 
having.

http://lcni.uoregon.edu/mediawiki/index.php/SOFT:Gentoo_AMD64_1

Emerging world twice may be a bit overkill, but then it's never something I 
sit and watch... It's amazing what you can do with a bit of bash and cron 
when you are happily sleeping.

Cheers...

On Friday 12 May 2006 14:07, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 5/12/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thursday 11 May 2006 19:47, Richard Fish wrote:
   On 5/11/06, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm going one step further with gcc 4.1.0. After I emerged gcc and
glibc... I did an emerge -e system twice and am now following up
with two emerge -e world commands...
  
   Wow, you like to waste a lot of CPU cycles...
 
  Actually... nothing is wasted. I've read that this is the best way to
  rebuild the tool chain, then the applications. Sources that rely on other
  sources are guaranteed to be accurately built after the second pass of
  world

 I'm sorry, but what you read was simply wrong, written by somebody who
 probably didn't understand how compilers, linkers, dynamic libraries,
 and executables interact.

 I could see _some_ value in emerge -e system followed by emerge -e
 world.  There can be some (very small) effects of system packages on
 each other.  But you are building system again when you emerge -e
 world, and there is simply no reason at all to emerge -e world twice.

 -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] use shfs

2006-05-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 12 May 2006 18:57, Marco Calviani wrote:

 Hi list,
   i have a question regarding shfs. I'm use to connect a remote
 computer (let's call it C) from a linux machine (A) via ssh passing
 through a *nix gateway (B). I would like to be able to transfer data
 from C to A as easy as possible. Since B works only as a gateway i'm
 not able to save anything into it. Is there a way to use shfs (or
 similar) in order to reach this objective?

I suppose you do something like

a$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
b$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
c$

and, from there, you want to copy stuff from c to a and viceversa.
The simplest way I can think of right now is to do a port forwarding, ie:

a$ ssh -L :c.com:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
b$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
c$

In fact, you don't even need to connect to c.

From now on, open a new terminal on a and you can do (to copy files from 
c to a):

a$ scp -P  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/path/to/file/on/c /destination/path/on/a

You can also reverse things and use the -R option to start the copy from 
c (but you need to have the ssh daemon running on a in this case).
Man ssh will give you the details.


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[gentoo-user] choosing different xservers (xorg.confs) as needed?

2006-05-12 Thread Robert Persson
Is it possible to choose between different xorg.conf files depending on your 
needs? What I mean is, can you get startx or xinit to choose a config file 
other than the default?

What I have in mind is to be able to choose between using fglrx (for faster 
opengl) or the radeon driver (because fglrx won't (AFAIK) work alongside 
other drivers for multi-head setups (and because it's not very reliable 
either)).

One problem would be that fglrx works best with ati opengl, whereas other 
drivers require mesa. Would I have to eselect the different opengl version 
each time I started X? I suppose that it would be possible, failing all else, 
to simply run a script each time I start X to sort out the opengl and swap 
the xorg.confs about. 

Actually, the card I am using is a radeon-9200se. I understand that the 
chipset support for this card in the radeon driver is better than for later 
models. Is the performance of the radeon driver for this card likely to catch 
up with that of fglrx in the relatively near future and make my question 
obsolete?

Many thanks
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] use shfs

2006-05-12 Thread Toby Cubitt
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 06:57:11PM +0200, Marco Calviani wrote:
 Hi list,
  i have a question regarding shfs. I'm use to connect a remote
 computer (let's call it C) from a linux machine (A) via ssh passing
 through a *nix gateway (B). I would like to be able to transfer data
 from C to A as easy as possible. Since B works only as a gateway i'm
 not able to save anything into it. Is there a way to use shfs (or
 similar) in order to reach this objective?

I can't test the shfs part - I tried shfs out a while back, liked it,
but got rid of it since I never really seemed to use it.

But the ssh part is easy: just use port forwarding (assuming you have
ssh access to B; if not, you're out of luck). Using your example,
you'll need to do something like:

  ssh -L8022:C:22 B

Port 8022 on your local machine A is now a tunnel to port 22 (the ssh
port) on C. You should be able to mount directories from C on A, by
pointing shfs at port 8022 on A. Something like:

  shfsmount -P 8022 A:/remotedir /mnt/mountpoint

This all assumes your user name is the same on all machines. If not,
just specify the appropriate user name before the host names.
E.g. shfsmount -P 8022 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/remotedir /mnt/mountpoint where user
is your user name on machine C, *not* A, because you're in fact
tunnelling to C with this command.

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] choosing different xservers (xorg.confs) as needed?

2006-05-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Saturday 13 May 2006 00:49, Robert Persson wrote:

 Is it possible to choose between different xorg.conf files depending
 on your needs? What I mean is, can you get startx or xinit to choose a
 config file other than the default?

Yes, just use the -config option, eg

startx -- -config config file name

but beware of the limitations of config file name if you are not root 
(man Xorg will tell you).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 19:08 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Yep. So? What to do? Why is the system not finding the definition
 of the color black? Where does it look for the definition? And how
 do I add a color (like: black) to these definitions? Obviously,
 /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt is not used as a source for these definitions.

sorry to come in late with useless info :) have you actually fixed (or
found a workaround to) the problem?

I just made a symlink to /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt :

$ ls -al /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-05-11 20:14 /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt - 
/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

and it works.  I don't have time to care why atm.  Just letting you know
in case you haven't fixed it yet...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Warning: Color name black is not defined

2006-05-12 Thread Alexander Skwar

Iain Buchanan wrote:

On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 19:08 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:

Yep. So? What to do? Why is the system not finding the definition
of the color black? Where does it look for the definition? And how
do I add a color (like: black) to these definitions? Obviously,
/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt is not used as a source for these definitions.


sorry to come in late with useless info :) have you actually fixed (or
found a workaround to) the problem?


No, I haven't. Up to now, it seems that nobody has a clue - and
me, I'm the most clueless person reg. this :(


I just made a symlink to /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt :

$ ls -al /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-05-11 20:14 /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt - 
/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

and it works.


Great idea. I'll give that a try on Monday when I'm back at the
office. If that really fixes the problem, then it should be
incorporated in the RGB package.

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[gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-12 Thread wu chuanwen

Hi!Everybody!
I have emerge sun-jdk1.5.**(i download it and ebuild it by
myself).Now, i want to emerge tomcat,and it is dependent of
dev-java/commons-daemon-1.0.1 .But when i emerge it,errors just occur:

 enum in jdk1.5 is a keyword,but it is used as a variable in
the dev-java/commons-daemon-1.0.1.

So now is there anyway to emerge tomcat?
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Re: [gentoo-user] postgresql

2006-05-12 Thread pat
On Fri, 12 May 2006 12:43:05 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote
 On 5/12/06, pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've installed a postgres SQL and trying to connect into it. Does the
  installation contains a testing DB ??? Is there a super user for the it
  (somethink like sysdb, system etc. in oracle) and if yes what is its
default passwd.
 
 The superuser for postgresql is 'postgres'. You can su to root, and
 then 'su postgres' to connect to the database, as the postgres user
 doesn't have a password by default.
 You can use the template1 database to connect to the server, and then
 create more databases. So:
 
 $ su root
 Password:
 # su postgres
 $ psql template1
 
 Hope this helps
 

Thanks, that helps.

 Pat
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