[gentoo-ppc-user] new user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi to all gentoo users. I'm a new gentoo user, I have an ibook 12'' 1200Mhz.. Now I'm happy with gentoo p.s. I'm sorry for my english but i'm italian... p.p.s My airport extream don't work.. i don't know why... - -- -- |Giuseppe Moscato aka peppeska - Linux User - no html messages---| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://peppeska.altervista.org--| |Fingerprint = 6C12 8341 9F08 1783 454A A6D9 67AB 0695 EAC1 F02F| -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEe3BXZ6sGlerB8C8RAiRPAKDPY5yrwborAswiUbDhcLqRgiLCigCgk/Oc nPJ9H0N3sE1nYWl4ywXdAf8= =IPYu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-ppc-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 does not exist - success
Richard Fish wrote: Ok, when you go to configure your kernel, go under Device Drivers-Network device support-Ethernet (10 or 100Mbit). Select the option 3COM cards, and then the 3c590/3c900 series... with an 'M'. Assuming that you already configured and installed a kernel, so that /usr/src/linux matches your running kernel, you should be able to just do make make modules_install to get the new driver. You can then try loading it with modprobe 3c59x. If you get no errors from that command, then you should get connected automatically within a few seconds. If all goes well, it should work fine even after a reboot. If you get errors, well you may have some more work to do to configure and install a new kernel. This is my first attempt with gentoo and kernel compilation so I'm not very knowledgable about modules. I just followed the steps in the x86 installation handbook. Except for the network, everything else (cdrom, floppy) seems to work. I've been somewhat terse about the steps required, assuming you have some basic knowledge of how to configure and install a new kernel. The gentoo handbook can help here, but if you still have questions or something doesn't make sense, feel free to ask for some more help. -Richard Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I finally got eth0 working, but it was a struggle. I selected the 3COM options like you suggested and recompiled the kernel. Unfortunately, during reboot I got invalid compressed format (err=1). I tried make clean to flush everything and compiled again but it still wouldn't boot. My drastic solution was to reinstall gentoo from scratch. Now the network initializes properly during startup. I also learned to always keep the last working kernel as a backup when you reconfigure. K. Hopping -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
On Mon, 29 May 2006 09:33:30 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: Tried this last weekend after reading this thread. I've never seen KDE starting that fast! And I tried it too but didn't notice a slight increase! Maybe I did something wrong? -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 does not exist - success
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 00:19 -0700, Kenneth Hopping wrote: I also learned to always keep the last working kernel as a backup when you reconfigure. And you can add another piece of self-taught knowledge to your toolkit :) This is one that I do without thinking now. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au You must be the change you wish to see in the world. --Mahatma Gandhi -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 does not exist - success
Monday 29 May 2006 09:19 skrev Kenneth Hopping: I selected the 3COM options like you suggested and recompiled the kernel. Unfortunately, during reboot I got invalid compressed format (err=1). I tried make clean to flush everything and compiled again but it still wouldn't boot. My drastic solution was to reinstall gentoo from scratch. Now the network initializes properly during startup. *shrug* Probably all you had to do after enabling the module in the config was: # make make modules_install make install You would need to make sure that /boot was mounted during the 'make install' (which probably was the only step you missed) and then it would have worked. You almost *never* need to reinstall from scratch.. -- Bo Andresen pgprGldAF9odm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
060528 Richard Fish wrote: On 5/28/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might also do the same with 'df'. Building OOo requires an insane amount of disk space... 2.0.2 needed 4 GB on my machine: make sure PORTAGE_TMPDIR is big enough. I have a big 13 GB partition which I call '/z' for making ISOs etc use /z/tmp as PORTAGE_TMPDIR . -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 08:36 schrieb ext Eskej: On Mon, 29 May 2006 09:33:30 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI: Tried this last weekend after reading this thread. I've never seen KDE starting that fast! And I tried it too but didn't notice a slight increase! Maybe I did something wrong? Did you recompile qt with gcc-4.1 before recompiling KDE? Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpK8SJck3Ftc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 does not exist - success
On 5/29/06, Kenneth Hopping [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I finally got eth0 working, but it was a struggle. Glad you got it working. I selected the 3COM options like you suggested and recompiled the kernel. Unfortunately, during reboot I got invalid compressed format (err=1). Hmm, do you use lilo or grub for your boot loader? 'Cause I think this is only possible when using lilo, if you forget to re-run lilo after installing the new kernel. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
On Mon, 29 May 2006 10:58:54 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you recompile qt with gcc-4.1 before recompiling KDE? Yeah of course. And all CFLAGS are right. I did try a little test $ time konsole -e sh exit And in both cases (3.4.6 and 4.1.1 +kdehiddenvisibility) it shows the same time ~1.08s -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006 09:58 schrieb ext Eskej: On Mon, 29 May 2006 10:58:54 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you recompile qt with gcc-4.1 before recompiling KDE? Yeah of course. And all CFLAGS are right. I did try a little test $ time konsole -e sh exit And in both cases (3.4.6 and 4.1.1 +kdehiddenvisibility) it shows the same time ~1.08s Read my first mail again, please. I didn't write about a single app, I wrote about KDE startup. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpQhBCoQ5uYq.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Hi, Sorry you all because of the Windoze usage. I have a SSHD server running in my computer at home, and it does work really well (as the apache server that I have too). I've configured SSHD server to forward X11, so when I do connect from another computer that is running Linux (with X11) there is no problem, if I run xclock for example, xclock is showed. What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? Thank you, Rafael Fernández López. -- A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? Thank you, Rafael Fernández López. -- A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Yes there is a way to forward X11 to Windows. With Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), you can install a X11-Server on you Windowsmachine. Then switch on the X11 forwarding of your ssh client. Norman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:24:20 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read my first mail again, please. I didn't write about a single app, I wrote about KDE startup. Oh, I'm sorry but shouldn't a single app be affected? And KDE startup time is hardly to measure. So the question is open: has anybody noticed a _single application_ performance increase with GCC 4.1 and hidden visibility. KDE I mean. Or maybe Konsole is no good to make tests? But it is the only precise test I know. When it is about milliseconds human cannot see the difference really. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Monday 29 May 2006 11:08 skrev Norman Rieß: With Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), you can install a X11-Server on you Windowsmachine. Then switch on the X11 forwarding of your ssh client. Be aware that you don't actually need to run the X server on the Windows computer. You just need the libs that are required by those X applications that you intend to run.. -- Bo Andresen pgpM2PDor0glu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Monday 29 May 2006 10:53 skrev Rafael Fernández López: What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? If I recall correctly and assuming you are running the sshd in Cygwin this should be pretty much the same as with the ssh daemon on Linux. Try the -X parameter for ssh (see man ssh). If that doesn't work see if there is an sshd_config somewhere in /etc... -- Bo Andresen pgpbcnNS3MYJB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT 0.0.0.0 security query
Le Dimanche 28 Mai 2006 16:53, Dave S a écrit : Yep, same here. I was trying to lock down my router. By default it allows any outgoing packets and only allows incoming packets if they are related to the incoming packets. I was trying to lock down my outgoing packets so services such as Samba would not broadcast anything to the WAN. As such I defaulted outgoing to BLOCK and allowed only certain ports. However I then needed to allow ports between computers ie for Samba again. When I opened the port on the LAN between computers my router wanted at least one IP address for the WAN. I did not want to give it a real address so choose 0.0.0.0 I was really asking ... (a) Is it worthwhile setting up my router this way, or am I being paranoid :) I do not think it wise to setup your router that way. Here's a little of theory. I apologize if you're familiar with it, but it is necessary for latter development. When in a LAN, a packet will not reach the WAN unless you specify you want it to, that includes broadcasts. An element of an IP address is a number between 0 and 254. 255 is used only for broadcasting. Moreover, rsync and samba, and most daemons take as a paramater the address or address range they can accept connections from. An incoming connection from the WAN, could not connect to the daemon even if it wanted to. (b) Is 0.0.0.0 and invalid IP address (I though it might be) because that is what i was looking for to trick my router to send nothing to the WAN An IP address is meaningful only in conjunction with a mask. 0.0.0.0 with mask 255.255.255.255 means broadcast to every single IP address that exists. Since the mask indicates between which boundaries the IP number can vary (in this case every IP address item can vary between 0 and 254). As a conclusion, this is definitely not what you want to do ! ;-) So, taking as a hypothesis that you trust everyone on your LAN, here's what you should do : - Et the policy for incomiong connections to BLOCK. - Unblock the services you actually need the net to access. Plus, in the config file of the daemon, specify it should listen to 0.0.0.0 - Allow traffic from your LAN to the WAN (again, if you trust everyone). And set up each daemon to only listen to 192.168.0.1/24 (which means only addresses that begin with 192.168.0). - Set up daemons to broadcast on 192.168.0.255 I hope this was clear, I have hardly slept last night ! -- Jonathan PS : No need to apologize for the delay, I know even gentooists have lives ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Google Picasa for Linux!
2006/5/27, Raymond Lewis Rebbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From what I understand it is only accessible from the US. from China ,too! -- wcw -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Hi, On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:19:30 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Monday 29 May 2006 11:08 skrev Norman Rieß: With Cygwin (http://www.cygwin.com/), you can install a X11-Server on you Windowsmachine. Then switch on the X11 forwarding of your ssh client. Be aware that you don't actually need to run the X server on the Windows computer. You just need the libs that are required by those X applications that you intend to run.. N'ah, you've misread it. Since the OP wants to run the ssh client on the Windows machine, a X server is needed. XWin from cygwin is a good suggestion. I also like WeirdX (http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/index.html), a Java-based implementation that might be simpler to setup if cygwin is too big. It has a few interesting things, among them EsounD support. It's X11R6.3, though. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Monday 29 May 2006 12:42 skrev Hans-Werner Hilse: N'ah, you've misread it. Since the OP wants to run the ssh client on the Windows machine, a X server is needed. Hence you should all forget what I've posted so far to this thread. ;) My mistake. Despite the fact that it is non free and costs money I used to prefer X-win32 [1] back when I used an X server on Windows. [1] http://www.starnet.com/products/xwin32/ -- Bo Andresen pgpP6FZ4DDQBh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
On May 29, 2006, at 3:53 AM, Rafael Fernández López wrote: Hi, Sorry you all because of the Windoze usage. I have a SSHD server running in my computer at home, and it does work really well (as the apache server that I have too). I've configured SSHD server to forward X11, so when I do connect from another computer that is running Linux (with X11) there is no problem, if I run xclock for example, xclock is showed. What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? the tricky thing to remember about X11 is that the server is local to you and client is the remote endso you'd need an X11 server running on windows. Reflection/X is the one I usually use...Exceed Hummingbird is another. Neither free. There may be free X servers for windows by now, i don't know. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
On Monday 29 May 2006 13:20, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: Despite the fact that it is non free and costs money I used to prefer X-win32 [1] back when I used an X server on Windows. [1] http://www.starnet.com/products/xwin32/ Well, Xming is free and works fine, and does not depend on any external package. http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming hth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
You should install X server on windows. Cygwin is very good solution. Try this: http://x.cygwin.com/ Best On 5/29/06, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry you all because of the Windoze usage. I have a SSHD server running in my computer at home, and it does work really well (as the apache server that I have too). I've configured SSHD server to forward X11, so when I do connect from another computer that is running Linux (with X11) there is no problem, if I run xclock for example, xclock is showed. What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? Thank you, Rafael Fernández López. -- A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: SSHD running under Linux, SSH running under Windoz
Sorry, For answering repeatedly. My mail cleint did not receive the others posts. So I was thinking I'm the first one. Sorry for bothering again. Best On 5/29/06, Platoali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should install X server on windows. Cygwin is very good solution. Try this: http://x.cygwin.com/ Best On 5/29/06, Rafael Fernández López [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Sorry you all because of the Windoze usage. I have a SSHD server running in my computer at home, and it does work really well (as the apache server that I have too). I've configured SSHD server to forward X11, so when I do connect from another computer that is running Linux (with X11) there is no problem, if I run xclock for example, xclock is showed. What I'd like to know is how to do this same thing if the ssh client is running under Windows, is there any possibility of forwarding X11 in it? Thank you, Rafael Fernández López. -- A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fotos
Nens, això té molt bona pinta... compartir les fotos ràpidament... potser ho podriem provar a veure que tal, no? una nova forma de tindre les fotos al dia... Edgar o Pau voluntaris? no veig al Jordi investigant, i el gordo és un home més ocupat, però si els hi donem tot fet, segurament s'animin i s'ho instalin. Per cert, oju que diu qeu comparteix TOTES les fotos... vigileu el porno :-) http://picasa.google.com/ salut! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fotos
Sorry, obviusly, it's not for gentoo people... Regards, On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:09:18 +0200 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nens, això té molt bona pinta... compartir les fotos ràpidament... potser ho podriem provar a veure que tal, no? una nova forma de tindre les fotos al dia... Edgar o Pau voluntaris? no veig al Jordi investigant, i el gordo és un home més ocupat, però si els hi donem tot fet, segurament s'animin i s'ho instalin. Per cert, oju que diu qeu comparteix TOTES les fotos... vigileu el porno :-) http://picasa.google.com/ salut! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT 0.0.0.0 security query
On Monday 29 May 2006 11:14, Jonathan Chocron wrote: Le Dimanche 28 Mai 2006 16:53, Dave S a écrit : Yep, same here. I was trying to lock down my router. By default it allows any outgoing packets and only allows incoming packets if they are related to the incoming packets. I was trying to lock down my outgoing packets so services such as Samba would not broadcast anything to the WAN. As such I defaulted outgoing to BLOCK and allowed only certain ports. However I then needed to allow ports between computers ie for Samba again. When I opened the port on the LAN between computers my router wanted at least one IP address for the WAN. I did not want to give it a real address so choose 0.0.0.0 I was really asking ... (a) Is it worthwhile setting up my router this way, or am I being paranoid :) I do not think it wise to setup your router that way. Here's a little of theory. I apologize if you're familiar with it, but it is necessary for latter development. When in a LAN, a packet will not reach the WAN unless you specify you want it to, that includes broadcasts. An element of an IP address is a number between 0 and 254. 255 is used only for broadcasting. Moreover, rsync and samba, and most daemons take as a paramater the address or address range they can accept connections from. An incoming connection from the WAN, could not connect to the daemon even if it wanted to. With you so far :) (b) Is 0.0.0.0 and invalid IP address (I though it might be) because that is what i was looking for to trick my router to send nothing to the WAN An IP address is meaningful only in conjunction with a mask. 0.0.0.0 with mask 255.255.255.255 means broadcast to every single IP address that exists. Since the mask indicates between which boundaries the IP number can vary (in this case every IP address item can vary between 0 and 254). As a conclusion, this is definitely not what you want to do ! ;-) Gulp :( So, taking as a hypothesis that you trust everyone on your LAN, here's what you should do : - Et the policy for incomiong connections to BLOCK. - Unblock the services you actually need the net to access. Plus, in the config file of the daemon, specify it should listen to 0.0.0.0 - Allow traffic from your LAN to the WAN (again, if you trust everyone). And set up each daemon to only listen to 192.168.0.1/24 (which means only addresses that begin with 192.168.0). - Set up daemons to broadcast on 192.168.0.255 I hope this was clear, I have hardly slept last night ! That helps a lot, thank you for taking the time to explain. I will have a google so I understand netmasks IPs a bit more :( -- Jonathan PS : No need to apologize for the delay, I know even gentooists have lives ;) Wish I was 247 Linux - have to pay the mortgage though ! Thanks once again Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fotos
Arnau Bria wrote: Sorry, obviusly, it's not for gentoo people... Regards, It's not for English speakers for sure. I can't make out one word. Can someone translate for the rest of us? Dale :-) On Mon, 29 May 2006 16:09:18 +0200 Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nens, això té molt bona pinta... compartir les fotos ràpidament... potser ho podriem provar a veure que tal, no? una nova forma de tindre les fotos al dia... Edgar o Pau voluntaris? no veig al Jordi investigant, i el gordo és un home més ocupat, però si els hi donem tot fet, segurament s'animin i s'ho instalin. Per cert, oju que diu qeu comparteix TOTES les fotos... vigileu el porno :-) http://picasa.google.com/ salut! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems configuring VMWare
On 5/28/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, all I had to do is remove /etc/vmware/not_configured and all isgolden.Thanks, that helped. Now I can run vmware as root.But attempting to run it as myself, I get: (vmware:7809): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders'I've added myselft to the vmware-group, but gdk-pixbuf.loaders is:# ls -la /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders -rw--- 1 root root 3324 2006-05-29 01:51 /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loadersSo something here seems to be all wrong.I probably should take the hint and just buy a new machine instead of playing with VMWare. :*) M.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems configuring VMWare
Martin Larsson wrote: On 5/28/06, *JimD* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, all I had to do is remove /etc/vmware/not_configured and all is golden. Thanks, that helped. Now I can run vmware as root. But attempting to run it as myself, I get: (vmware:7809): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders' I've added myselft to the vmware-group, but gdk-pixbuf.loaders is: # ls -la /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders -rw--- 1 root root 3324 2006-05-29 01:51 /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders So something here seems to be all wrong. I probably should take the hint and just buy a new machine instead of playing with VMWare. :*) M. Don't worry about that warning, I get it every time I use VMware and have not had any issues. I run VMware Mon-Fri for a good 8 hours. I use it for work. Maybe I will look into the gdk-pixbuf.loaders issue if I find some time. Though as I stated, I have not had one issue because of it, I even played a few smaller games under VMware like Heroes of Might and Magic III. Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problems configuring VMWare
Martin Larsson wrote: But attempting to run it as myself, I get: (vmware:7809): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Can not open pixbuf loader module file '/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders' I've added myselft to the vmware-group, but gdk-pixbuf.loaders is: # ls -la /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders -rw--- 1 root root 3324 2006-05-29 01:51 /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders I don't know if this helps, but I am running VMWare player, and the corresponding file: /opt/vmware/player/lib/libconf/etc/gtk-2.0/gdk-pixbuf.loaders has the following permissions: -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3244 mai 20 08:49 gdk-pixbuf.loaders So you might just want to try and chmod it to 664. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdehiddenvisibility: What does it do?
On Monday 29 May 2006 11:18, Eskej wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:24:20 +0400, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read my first mail again, please. I didn't write about a single app, I wrote about KDE startup. Oh, I'm sorry but shouldn't a single app be affected? And KDE startup time is hardly to measure. So the question is open: has anybody noticed a _single application_ performance increase with GCC 4.1 and hidden visibility. KDE I mean. Or maybe Konsole is no good to make tests? But it is the only precise test I know. When it is about milliseconds human cannot see the difference really. kdeinit exists to 'preload' all libs. It was introduced, to keep the loading time of apps down to a bearable time. Without kdeinit or prelink, the startup time of every kde app would be insane. That is, why a single app should not be so much affected like the overall kde startup time. After the start, everything is 'prelinked' (not really, but kdeinit will be running), and the times of the apps are depend on how fast they 'link' against kdeinit -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild failure
Hi folks, if revdep-rebuild complains that some of the stuff is no longer in portage, how to find out which one? Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild failure
Uwe, I'm only guessing here but would emerge -ep world (or some other all emcompasing type of emerge command) possibly uncover things like that? Cheers, Mark On 5/29/06, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, if revdep-rebuild complains that some of the stuff is no longer in portage, how to find out which one? Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild failure
On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 09:22:11AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: if revdep-rebuild complains that some of the stuff is no longer in portage, how to find out which one? emaint, I think. Rasmus -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't build xmltv
Hello, I've had a healthy daily synced Gentoo since november. With a few updates to Perl lately xmltv bombs with this disturbing msg: Do you want to proceed with this configuration? [yes,no (default=yes)] y Checking if your kit is complete... Warning: the following files are missing in your kit: META.yml Please inform the author. bad makefile line: '$(NOECHO) $(NOOP)' at Makefile.PL line 1031. I've tried out `perl-cleaner all ask` and rebuilt perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker xmltv doesn't build properly for my location. tv_grab_be and _za gets installed but not the norwegian one. Is this a work in process? Regards -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed. Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 22:17:32 -0700 On 5/28/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kenton Groombridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed. Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 17:16:51 - Hi, As suggested I tried to install the newest hunspell available and installed openoffice-2.0.2-r2. The build failed again with the same error while installing. What does the openoffice logfile mentioned in the error message contain? Also, could you post the output of emerge --info? Hopefully I have undertsood, what you are asking for (I am still exploring the wonderful world of gentoo and English isn't my mother's tongue...) So: The compile process (a full very long log of all output is on my disk -- if you want it I can send you a compressed version...) stopped with this message: Package list file: ../inc_openoffice/unix/packagelist.txt Addon-Package list file: ../inc_openoffice/unix/packagelist_language.txt Not calling epm No file stripping Unzip ARCHIVE files services.rdb can be created Languages: en-US ... checking required files ... .. searching zip ... Found: /usr/bin/zip .. searching unzip ... Found: /usr/bin/unzip ... analyzing openoffice.lst ... ... analyzing script: /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/bin/setup_osl.ins ... ... analyzing files ... ... analyzing scpactions ... ... analyzing shortcuts ... ... analyzing profile ... ... analyzing profileitems ... ... analyzing modules ... ... languages en-US ... ... analyzing files ... ... analyzing files with flag ARCHIVE ... ... analyzing files with flag SCPZIP_REPLACE ... ... analyzing files with flag PATCH_SO_NAME ... ... creating preregistered services.rdb ... ** ERROR: ERROR: Could not register all components! in function: create_services_rdb ** ** ERROR: Saved logfile: /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/instsetoo_native/util/OpenOffice//logging/en-US/log_OOB680__en-US.logcleaning the output tree ... ... removing directory /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/instsetoo_native/util/OpenOffice//zip/en-US ...o-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/instsetoo_native/util/OpenOffice//services.rdb/en-US_witherror_1 ...ed to install: Bad file descriptor at ./ooinstall line 129. make: *** [install] Error 1 Seems to me the same report as mailed previuosly... emerge --info says: solfire:/rootemerge --info Portage 2.0.54-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-3.4.6, glibc-2.3.6-r3, 2.6.16.18 i686) = System uname: 2.6.16.18 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ Gentoo Base System version 1.6.14 dev-lang/python: 2.4.2 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.59-r7 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r2 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.11-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i386-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O3 -m3dnow -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr -finline-functions -falign-functions=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 CHOST=i386-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.4/env /usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d CXXFLAGS=-O3 -m3dnow -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-mem -fforce-addr -finline-functions -falign-functions=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/Linux/gentoo MAKEOPTS=-j 4 PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X acl alsa apache2 apm arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cdr cli crypt cscope cups curl dri dts eds emboss encode esd
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build xmltv
Le lundi 29 mai 2006 à 18:52 +0200, Roger a écrit : Hello, I've had a healthy daily synced Gentoo since november. With a few updates to Perl lately xmltv bombs with this disturbing msg: Do you want to proceed with this configuration? [yes,no (default=yes)] y Checking if your kit is complete... Warning: the following files are missing in your kit: META.yml Please inform the author. bad makefile line: '$(NOECHO) $(NOOP)' at Makefile.PL line 1031. I've tried out `perl-cleaner all ask` and rebuilt perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker xmltv doesn't build properly for my location. tv_grab_be and _za gets installed but not the norwegian one. Is this a work in process? Regards On the gentoo-dev mailing-list, Sat, 27 May 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once upon a time ago, we added ExtUtils-MakeMaker to the tree to deal with some dramatic changes between perl versions and what they supported. The time for that has passed, and this package only serves to cause problems with the perl tree. Unless there are objects, I intend to remove this package from the tree within the week. i don't know about your problem but you could try the new ebuild of xmltv in this bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95166 -Leszek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build xmltv
leszek wrote: On the gentoo-dev mailing-list, Sat, 27 May 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once upon a time ago, we added ExtUtils-MakeMaker to the tree to deal with some dramatic changes between perl versions and what they supported. The time for that has passed, and this package only serves to cause problems with the perl tree. Unless there are objects, I intend to remove this package from the tree within the week. i don't know about your problem but you could try the new ebuild of xmltv in this bug report: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95166 -Leszek I've removed the MakeMaker and rebuilt xmltv-0.5.42 (~x86) and the configure stage still says META.yml is missing from my kit. No difference from when I have MakeMaker. Of course I've tried building by hand. Since MakeMaker is going out I'll have ~x86 set, xmltv-0.5.37 uses it to configure. I've kept all the portage logs since day 1 (also some lsat files) and no META.yml to be seen anywhere. I've never been this stuck before. Regards. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems configuring VMWare
On 5/29/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry about that warning, I get it every time I use VMware and have not had any issues. I run VMware Mon-Fri for a good 8 hours. I use it for work. Sounds like a good idea, except, vmware doesn't start. All I get is a screenfull of 'gdk-pixbuf.loaders not accessible'-messages. :*) Remy Blank wrote: has the following permissions: -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3244 mai 20 08:49 gdk-pixbuf.loaders So you might just want to try and chmod it to 664. Trying that gave me: (null): file ../../pango-1.4.1/pango/shape.c: line 75 (pango_shape): assertion failed: (glyphs-num_glyphs 0) (process:9070): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL (recursed) **: file ../../glib-2.4.8/gobject/gobject.c: line 1561 (g_object_ref): assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed aborting... So. I'll be running as root, I guess. :*) M. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build xmltv
Le lundi 29 mai 2006 à 20:04 +0200, Roger a écrit : I've removed the MakeMaker and rebuilt xmltv-0.5.42 (~x86) and the configure stage still says META.yml is missing from my kit. No difference from when I have MakeMaker. Of course I've tried building by hand. i found you bug here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114933 you should try the xmltv-0.5.43-r1 ebuild which is in the bug-report i sent you in my last mail. Leszek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
On 5/29/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I will restart the whole thing again I would be happy if you could take a look on the logfile. I have attached it to this mail, Here is the error: Systemcall: /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/bin/regcomp -register -br /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/bin/types.rdb -br /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi6.pro/bin/pyuno_services.rdb -r /tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/instsetoo_native/util/OpenOffice//services.rdb/en-US_inprogress_1/services.rdb -c vnd.openoffice.pymodule:mailmerge -l com.sun.star.loader.Python 21 | 'import site' failed; use -v for traceback register component 'vnd.openoffice.pymodule:mailmerge' in registry '/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r2/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.11/build/OOO_2_0_2/instsetoo_native/util/OpenOffice//services.rdb/en-US_inprogress_1/services.rdb' failed! error (RuntimeException): python-loader:exceptions.ImportError: No module named os, traceback follows Coludn't import traceback module It looks like openoffice doesn't like the python that is on your system. But I don't understand why, because the os, site, and traceback modules are a part of python, and really must exist. In fact portage relies on python, so if python were really broken portage would not work. So I guess now we should take a look at the output of: eix dev-lang/python (you may need to merge eix for this) emerge -pv dev-lang/python env | grep PYTHON python -c import sys ; print sys.path I suppose you can also try running the command shown on the Systemcall: line and see if the problem repeats itself... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
snip CFLAGS=-O3 -m3dnow -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 snip Before doing anything else, please clean up your CFLAGS and do # emerge -e system; emerge -e world If you realy want x86 (with your cpu i would reinstall an amd64 system http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml) then use: CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer because, mostly all of your flags are redundant and the combination -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 will give you nothing but maybe broken compiler output. You may also be interested in these pages: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix HTH, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build xmltv
leszek wrote: i found you bug here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114933 you should try the xmltv-0.5.43-r1 ebuild which is in the bug-report i sent you in my last mail. Leszek OK, I have info now. Thanks for the head up. I forgot to look in my overlay where I laid xmltv-0.5.42-r1 to solve the last error. I'll keep my eyes peeled the next time. When an ebuild goes out of portage will I get notified or do I have a lot of unmaintained packages? With any other distro I would reinstall like no tomorrow, but I'd like to keep this install as long as possible. Thanks for your help. Regards. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ethernetkarte, Geschwindigkeit verstellen
Hallo, um die Funktionstüchtigkeit eines (selbstgecrimpten) Netzwerkkabels zu untersuchen, möchte ich die Geschwingigkeit der Ethernetkarten herunterstellen. Leider stellt die sich sofort wieder zurück: # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s # ethtool -s eth1 speed 10 ; ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 10Mb/s # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s Was muß ich noch abstellen? Danke vorab, Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernetkarte, Geschwindigkeit verstellen
On 29 May 2006 20:59, Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hallo, um die Funktionstüchtigkeit eines (selbstgecrimpten) Netzwerkkabels zu untersuchen, möchte ich die Geschwingigkeit der Ethernetkarten herunterstellen. Leider stellt die sich sofort wieder zurück: This is an English speaking lst. # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s # ethtool -s eth1 speed 10 ; ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 10Mb/s # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s Was muß ich noch abstellen? Auto-negotiation. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ethernetkarte, Geschwindigkeit verstellen
Richard Fish wrote: On 5/29/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s # ethtool -s eth1 speed 10 ; ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 10Mb/s # ethtool eth1 | grep Speed Speed: 100Mb/s I have no idea what the rest of your message says, but I am guessing you want: ethtool -s eth1 speed 10 autoneg off -Richard He wants to stress test a home made cable. Now how do we crank up the speed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Split DNS is not enough
A while back I ran into the old problem. Machines X and Y have unrouteable IPs and all traffic is NAT'd through the firewall. Then one day, Machine X does a lookup for mysite.com and can't get to it because it resolves to the external IP and the firewall won't route things that way. The solution I found was to create a local DNS server which resolves things to the local IPs and I did just that: created a split-dns system so that external queries returned external results and internal queries returned internal ones. But today I ran into an ugly problem. We have a authenticated proxy behind our firewall in our remote NOC which works just fine to visit other sites, but of course, not our own as the remote client does a DNS lookup locally and gets the public IP, then asks the proxy to grab it... see the above problem. Here's a diagram for what's going on: Office LAN - Office FW --INTERNET- NOC FW - NOC Proxy - NOC Webserver So what do you do in this situation? Is there an iptables rule I can impliment to route the traffic accordingly or am I S.O.L.? -- Never let sentiment get in the way of your work - Garek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:37, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: kmail crashes me a lot because of this: it tries to fetch mails from a defunc server (it is still in the prefs, because it will be back in some weeks - and I don't know the pw anymore). When I close kmail, while it waits for the timeouts: crash Or it won't really stop (kmail and kio_pop3 still visible in ps aux), advantage, when I start kmail again, I don't have to type in the kwallet-pw ... These are all probably useful... but not to the gentoo-user list. If you want the bugs fixed, do go to http://bugs.kde.org/ and post them (check to see if they've already been posted first though eh?) Only then will your problems get the attention they need. -- Money never made a man happy yet, nor will it. There is nothing in its nature to produce happiness. The more a man has, the more he wants. cTnstead of filling a vacuum, it makes one. - Ben Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow
On 5/28/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On May 27 11:29, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: At this rate, I'm inclined to recommend Kuroo to all of you. I've been kicking the tires in on it, and it's really quite good. I have a feeling that, given people who extensively discuss the merits of esearch vs. eix, you're not going to convince them to use a portage frontend ;) Just trying to change the subject before the debate becomes a flame war. (PS - eix all the way - it also has customizable formatting and more powerful expressions) I don't care, so long as it works. Right now for small jobs eix seems to work, and so be it! -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow
On 5/28/06, Thomas Kirchner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On May 25 21:45, Lord Sauron (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: I'm learning Gentoo as fast and as much as I can! Cool! I hope you like it as much as the others here - it's a great system for a lot of uses. It's really nice. I like it a lot, however, I still think I need to find a way to use distcc with my faster windows box - compiling stuff on a pentium-m is excrutiatingly painful! Yeah, Gentoo's worderful, just a little difficult to use at times if you're not a seasoned Linux guru. I've fixed many problems by myself that you haven't heard about because I managed to fix them myself. I'm not as idiotic as some, but I'm not at all familiar with portage and that's why I'm asking: I'm a hardened apt-get veteran, but with portage I'm still learning, which is why I ask. I wasn't trying to be rude, and you're certainly not idiotic - I just think it's to everyone's benefit to read the docs. Gentoo has very good documentation. I just seem to find them hard to find! Look carefully for a link on the Gentoo home page to the (excellent) Gentoo Wiki. Not there - at least that I can find. Gentoo's got some great docs... just a little hard to find 'em. That's all. And trust me, I read many man pages before firing off this email. I did my homework ; ) -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sorry!
Hi, Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006, 21:59:31 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hallo, Sorry, wrong list. This happens now to me the second time in two weeks. There seems to be a deeper kind of problem ... Anyway, I apologize another time. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed. Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:14:25 +0200 snip CFLAGS=-O3 -m3dnow -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 snip Before doing anything else, please clean up your CFLAGS and do # emerge -e system; emerge -e world If you realy want x86 (with your cpu i would reinstall an amd64 system http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml) then use: CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer because, mostly all of your flags are redundant and the combination -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 will give you nothing but maybe broken compiler output. You may also be interested in these pages: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix HTH, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My decision against 64 bit and pro 32 was done, cause 64 bit gives me a performance gain only in some special cirumstances (beside only a few others: when rendering with 64 Bit aware Raytracers) but gives me for sure trouble with software, which isn't 64Bit-ready (according to different articles of the german c't computer magazine (Heise press). When changing CFLAGs on half the way...do I have to recompile my whole system? And -- only from the logical point of view -- redundancy may be not a sign of cleverness not a sign of cleverness but it does not hurt does not hurt the overall context since it instructs the compiler twice to do the same?! Bad compiler output is another thing. Keep hacking! mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
On Monday 29 May 2006 22:52, Daniel wrote: On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:37, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: kmail crashes me a lot because of this: it tries to fetch mails from a defunc server (it is still in the prefs, because it will be back in some weeks - and I don't know the pw anymore). When I close kmail, while it waits for the timeouts: crash Or it won't really stop (kmail and kio_pop3 still visible in ps aux), advantage, when I start kmail again, I don't have to type in the kwallet-pw ... These are all probably useful... but not to the gentoo-user list. If you want the bugs fixed, do go to http://bugs.kde.org/ and post them (check to see if they've already been posted first though eh?) Only then will your problems get the attention they need. people started to talk about kde bugs, so I mentioned the ones, I hit. Nothing else. Oh, and the logout bug IS in the bugzilla. For ages now. Without any advances. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006, 21:59:31 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hallo, Sorry, wrong list. This happens now to me the second time in two weeks. There seems to be a deeper kind of problem ... Anyway, I apologize another time. Bertram It's allright. Show me someone who doesn't make a mistake and I'll show you someone who doesn't do anything. O_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. From:Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgTo:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgSubject:Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!Date:Mon, 29 May 2006 16:50:56 -0500MIME-Version:1.0Received:from bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.122]) by bay0-imc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:40 -0700Received:from robin.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102]) by bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:39 -0700Received:from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4TLrNk7021447;Mon, 29 May 2006 21:53:23 GMTReceived:from mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (mxo5.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.85])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4TLowT9015500for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:50:58 GMTReceived:from [192.168.100.1] (unknown [207.68.230.60])by mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A224713BF4for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:50:56 -0400 (EDT)Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006, 21:59:31 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hallo,Sorry, wrong list. This happens now to me the second time in two weeks. There seems to be a deeper kind of problem ... Anyway, I apologize another time. BertramIt's allright.Show me someone who doesn't make a mistake and I'll showyou someone who doesn't do anything.O_ODale:-):-)--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Get MSN Messenger with FREE Video Conversation - the next best thing to being there! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
2006/5/30, John Laremore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. Send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Boris. From: Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry! Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 16:50:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.122]) by bay0-imc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:40 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102]) by bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:39 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4TLrNk7021447;Mon, 29 May 2006 21:53:23 GMT Received: from mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (mxo5.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.85])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4TLowT9015500for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:50:58 GMT Received: from [192.168.100.1] (unknown [207.68.230.60])by mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A224713BF4for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006, 21:59:31 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hallo, Sorry, wrong list. This happens now to me the second time in two weeks. There seems to be a deeper kind of problem ... Anyway, I apologize another time. Bertram It's allright. Show me someone who doesn't make a mistake and I'll show you someone who doesn't do anything. O_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Get MSN Messenger with FREE Video Conversation - the next best thing to being there! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Quiconque me parle de Dieu en veut à ma bourse ou à ma liberté. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. Only you are capable of removing yourself from the list - no-one else can do it for you. Send an email from the address that is getting the unwanted email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then reply to the confirmation email you will be sent and you will be unsubscribed. One question remains though... how on earth did you get subscribed to the list without your knowledge as all subscription requests require confirmation. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 21:31 +0200, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: From: Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed. Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:14:25 +0200 snip CFLAGS=-O3 -m3dnow -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 -msse -msse2 -msse3 -m3dnow -mfpmath=sse -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -finline-functions -falign-functions=4 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 snip Before doing anything else, please clean up your CFLAGS and do # emerge -e system; emerge -e world If you realy want x86 (with your cpu i would reinstall an amd64 system http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml) then use: CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer because, mostly all of your flags are redundant and the combination -march=athlon-xp -mtune=athlon64 will give you nothing but maybe broken compiler output. You may also be interested in these pages: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/Optimize-Options.html#Optimize-Options http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix HTH, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My decision against 64 bit and pro 32 was done, cause 64 bit gives me a performance gain only in some special cirumstances (beside only a few others: when rendering with 64 Bit aware Raytracers) but gives me for sure trouble with software, which isn't 64Bit-ready (according to different articles of the german c't computer magazine (Heise press). When changing CFLAGs on half the way...do I have to recompile my whole system? And -- only from the logical point of view -- redundancy may be not a sign of cleverness not a sign of cleverness but it does not hurt does not hurt the overall context since it instructs the compiler twice to do the same?! Of course, redunant compiler options should not do any harm but: 1.) they are difficult to read for people that may help you. 2.) -O3 turns on a group of compiler switches that are veryfied by by the gcc devs to produce good results. The group of these switches may change from time to time. Without further invention, your custum, today redunant swiches, may break your system tomorrow, after you have choosen to do a compiler upgrade and the the actual contents of -O3 have changed. The same applies of course to march=athlon-xp. One (harmless) example where this applies is '-fforce-mem'. This option will be completly removed with gcc-4.2, does nothing with gcc-4.1, but is activated with '-O3' for gcc-3.4.x. More generally: After doing some experiments, i've decided to use CFLAGS=-march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe. I don't think that my system would be noticeably faster with -O3, as -O3 often gains you nothing. '-fomit-frame-pointer' may give you a few percent, but it may interfere with debuging. From the gentoo-x86-handbook: Mind you that using -fomit-frame-pointer (which doesn't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't need one) might have serious repercussions on the debugging of applications! From the gcc-manual: -O also turns on -fomit-frame-pointer on machines where doing so does not interfere with debugging Besides, by looking at the terminal while merging packages, you will soon notice, that lot's of packages add their very own CFLAGS to your default ones. For example mplayer or xine-lib was compiled with '-O3' on my system, allthough i have '-O2' in my CFLAGS. (As far as i know, gcc -O3 -O2 == gcc -O3). Bad compiler output is another thing. In this exactly is the reason, i told you to better rebuild your whole system: 1.) emerge -e system so that all base packages (especially gcc, libtool, glibc, !python!, ...) are ok. 2.) emerge -e world so that all your packages are rebuild with your fixed toolchain. If you still problems with openoffice afterwards, it is sure that they are not related to your CFLAGS. Only then it makes sense to me to look at this problem more in detail. Have a nice day, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Now Know Why Portage Is So Slow
Monday 29 May 2006 22:55 skrev Lord Sauron: It's really nice. I like it a lot, however, I still think I need to find a way to use distcc with my faster windows box - compiling stuff on a pentium-m is excrutiatingly painful! I haven't actually tried this but in case you haven't noticed a howto on gentoo-wiki [1]. It does seem to contain some good references too. [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Distcc_server_on_Windows -- Bo Andresen pgpEg2Rzpxkkg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
snip PS: I symlinked /var/tmp/portags to /tmp/portage (I carefully copied all permissions settings...) due to space problems. /snip I've not noticed this before: Neil Botwick once wrote to me here, in gentoo-user: quote If you want to move directories, avoid wholesale symlinking like this as it always ends in tears ... /quote You may take a look at: http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=%3c434666D9.3070306% 40gmx.at%3e Maybe you want to solve this issue before rebuilding your system (i would do that in either case). Regards, Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
Besides, by looking at the terminal while merging packages, you will soon notice, that lot's of packages add their very own CFLAGS to your default ones. For example mplayer or xine-lib was compiled with '-O3' on my system, allthough i have '-O2' in my CFLAGS. (As far as i know, gcc -O3 -O2 == gcc -O3). Hi, the compiler takes the later options you specify, if they together makes no sense. So gcc -O2 -O3 bla.c is the same as gcc -O3 bla.c and gcc -O3 -O2 bla.c is the same as gcc -O2 bla.c. Regards Christian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 00:13, Jamie Dobbs wrote: You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. Only you are capable of removing yourself from the list - no-one else can do it for you. Send an email from the address that is getting the unwanted email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then reply to the confirmation email you will be sent and you will be unsubscribed. One question remains though... how on earth did you get subscribed to the list without your knowledge as all subscription requests require confirmation. maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
You are so funny !! keep stressed !! Bye !! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] John Laremore must go away!
On 5/29/06, John Laremore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. Nice to know you haven't gotten 'nasty' yet. Sad thing is, if you took 5 seconds to read one of the replies to you, you would know how to unsubscribe yourselfhint: this appears in the headers of _every_ mail you have received from this list: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's not like we are trying to hid this information from you. But being a lame msn user that doesn't know how to turn off html emails, quote properly, or even know how to turn off Microsoft's spam in your signature, you probably don't even know what a mail header is... This is the second time you have spammed us with your bullshit. Please, just unsubscribe and go away. Better yet, follow my earlier advice and just turn off your computer permanently. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] small gcc question
hi, I wonder how I can switch to the new gcc-4.1.1 version from the old one. on gcc --version I get 3.4.something so I assume that I am stll using the old profile. what command do I have to use to get gcc to use 4.1.1? thanks, Karsten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] where is synclient?
Hi, I was just going back through some archives, and found mention of the command 'synclient' to modify the Synaptic touchpad driver options - but I can't find it anywhere. equery, esearch, and slocate show nothing. Where do I get it? thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The problem that we thought was a problem was, indeed, a problem, but not the problem we thought was the problem. -- Mike Smith -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small gcc question
On 5/29/06, krgn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I wonder how I can switch to the new gcc-4.1.1 version from the old one. on gcc --version I get 3.4.something so I assume that I am stll using the old profile. what command do I have to use to get gcc to use 4.1.1? gcc-config -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small gcc question
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 02:30, krgn wrote: hi, I wonder how I can switch to the new gcc-4.1.1 version from the old one. on gcc --version I get 3.4.something so I assume that I am stll using the old profile. what command do I have to use to get gcc to use 4.1.1? thanks, Karsten you should start reading this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml the short answer is: gcc-config but please, read the guide first. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
and you just sent me 6-8 more emails. From: John Laremore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry! Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:00:20 + MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [67.168.96.72] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bay0-mc6-f3.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.171]) by bay0-imc1-s2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 15:06:34 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102]) by bay0-mc6-f3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 15:06:28 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4TM4emh012043;Mon, 29 May 2006 22:04:40 GMT Received: from hotmail.com (bay116-f32.bay116.hotmail.com [64.4.38.42])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4TM0MuQ008071for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 22:00:23 GMT Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 29 May 2006 15:00:21 -0700 Received: from 64.4.38.200 by by116fd.bay116.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Mon, 29 May 2006 22:00:20 GMT X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt3660MmjhEvYg2f34OAemlK+3Wz9fWrJ/U= Delivered-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Precedence: bulk List-Post: mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail gentoo-user.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 May 2006 22:00:21.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[47F2ED80:01C6836B] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. From: Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry! Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 16:50:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.244.122]) by bay0-imc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:40 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102]) by bay0-mc4-f18.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 29 May 2006 14:54:39 -0700 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4TLrNk7021447;Mon, 29 May 2006 21:53:23 GMT Received: from mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (mxo5.broadbandsupport.net [209.55.3.85])by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4TLowT9015500for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 21:50:58 GMT Received: from [192.168.100.1] (unknown [207.68.230.60])by mxo5.broadbandsupport.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A224713BF4for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 May 2006 17:50:56 -0400 (EDT) Bertram Scharpf wrote: Hi, Am Montag, 29. Mai 2006, 21:59:31 +0200 schrieb Bertram Scharpf: Hallo, Sorry, wrong list. This happens now to me the second time in two weeks. There seems to be a deeper kind of problem ... Anyway, I apologize another time. Bertram It's allright. Show me someone who doesn't make a mistake and I'll show you someone who doesn't do anything. O_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Get MSN Messenger with FREE Video Conversation - the next best thing to being there! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is synclient?
It comes with the synaptics driver. On Tuesday, 30 May 2006 9:08, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, I was just going back through some archives, and found mention of the command 'synclient' to modify the Synaptic touchpad driver options - but I can't find it anywhere. equery, esearch, and slocate show nothing. Where do I get it? thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au The problem that we thought was a problem was, indeed, a problem, but not the problem we thought was the problem. -- Mike Smith -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] where is synclient?
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 00:38, Iain Buchanan wrote: I was just going back through some archives, and found mention of the command 'synclient' to modify the Synaptic touchpad driver options - but I can't find it anywhere. equery, esearch, and slocate show nothing. Where do I get it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery belongs $(which synclient ) [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/synclient in *... ] x11-drivers/synaptics-0.14.4-r2 (/usr/bin/synclient) -- Mike Williams '95 827 Sterling Coupe - Blue '96 820 Vitesse Coupe - Cayman Blue '97 820 Vitesse Coupe - Burgundy Huddersfield, UK -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small gcc question
When you've changed to gcc-4.1.1 I suggest you to run a revdep-rebuild, or a emerge -e world (this will be *REALLY* slow), and unmerge any other older gcc that you may have. Anyway check out: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Bye, Rafael Fernández López. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] A8V motherboard defective ?
I have an A8V motherboard and I suspect the it is defective or just the memory bus is defective, any input will be appreciated. The A8V has two DIMM memory banks (running Linux AMD64): A1 A2 B1 B2 I have 2x 512 DIMM's (same modules Kensington KVR) on banks: A1 and B1 Originally I suspected memory chip as it was giving me a headache from the start, I could barely install Gentoo on it. I run Memorytest86 couldn't find much; I run Red Hat memory test script, it hang up so it indicated hardware problem. I replaced both memory sticks and I was able to install Gentoo but still at time to time compiling exit with an error indicating some hardware problem when I'm trying to compile a larger piece of code. Today, I've tried to compile qt and it constantly keep giving me an error, exiting with an error. Rebooting PC didn't help. I removed one memory stick (running only on one in B1) and it compiled just fine and it keeps compiling, I swap memory sticks (replacing the one in B1 with the one I removed from A1) still running on one memory stick and it keeps compiling just fine, no errors. So it would indicate the memory sticks are OK. Should I suspect the motherboard? -- #Joseph -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] small gcc question
Tuesday 30 May 2006 01:54 skrev Rafael Fernández López: and unmerge any other older gcc that you may have. But why? -- Bo Andresen pgpALAzjit9Wi.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] For the benefit of John Laremore
Open up your e-mail client. In the To: box type the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You don't need a subject or anything in the body. Send the e-mail. You'll be unsubscribed. Trust me! I've unsubscribed and resubscribed a number of times! However, you have to do this yourself! Regards, -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 01:47, John Laremore wrote: and you just sent me 6-8 more emails. which won't end until you unsubscribe. This is a mailing list! What about a mailing list don't you understand? I'll try to explain. A mailing list is something most windows users know as a 'newsletter', but usually with more active writers sending mails. Every mail send to a mailing list by a participant, is sent to all its participants. If you subscribe to a mailing list, you will get all mails sent to it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is such a mailing list. To become a participant, you have to subscribe - send an subscription mail AND and a confirmation mail. from the account you intend to use. To unsubscribe, you have to send an unsubscribe mail AND a confirmation mail. So far everything clear? WE CAN NOT STOP SENDING YOU MAILS! IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET MAILS FROM GENTOO-USER YOU HAVE TO UNSUBCRIBE! AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT YOURSELF! This has been told to you several times now. What is your problem? Are you 10? Drunk? High? Or maybe a slightly bit retarded? If you did not subscribe, somebody else with access to YOUR ACCOUNT did it. So think about it. Maybe your pw is really bad? (is it 'mom'? Or your name? Your dog's name?) AND AGAIN: WE CAN NOT STOP SENDING YOU MAILS: YOU HAVE STOP TO BE SUBSCRIBED TO THIS LIST! Do you understand? Or do I need to use bigger fonts? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email-based games
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:40 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote: JimD wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for some fun email based games? I have never played any before, I don't know if any exist. Call me old-fashioned, but I enjoy a good game of e-mail chess from time to time. :) Civilisation 4 has a play by email mode. Never tried it though. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Yes, it is written. Good shall always destroy evil. -- Sirah the Yang, The Omega Glory, stardate unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On 5/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) Id just like to second this comment, I also think that that is a very bad stereotype these days because me as well as a lot of my friends dont drink. Sorry if this is off topic it just needed to be said. AJ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 03:27, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: On 5/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) Id just like to second this comment, I also think that that is a very bad stereotype these days because me as well as a lot of my friends dont drink. Sorry if this is off topic it just needed to be said. bah, that only shows how lame teens are today! ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 30 May 2006 03:27, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: On 5/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) Id just like to second this comment, I also think that that is a very bad stereotype these days because me as well as a lot of my friends dont drink. Sorry if this is off topic it just needed to be said. bah, that only shows how lame teens are today! ;) Well, if I wasn't busy with Gentoo, maybe I'd have time to go drinking a bit! :P -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed
Hi, first of all: A BIG thank you to all that send replies to my initial cry. :) The real reason behind the unsuccessful build of OpenOffice was a wrong PYTHONPATH, which I had fixed in the user settings but not for the root account. They were rests from older settings, which I had took over when starting with Gentoo. The current build took five hours to finish, the CPU does not exceeds a core temperature of 45.5 degree celsius and the 9.1 GByte on /tmp were enough. Now I will remove the temporary installed symlink from /var/tmp/portage. Openoffice runs well in a quick test. Thank you again for all your help! Kind regards, Meino PS: May be it would be an idea to run a system sanity check script before such megabuilds, which quickly not only checks for missing software dependencies (which is already done) but also for a clean environment AND STOP the build, if anything is wrong. For example: An automatic echo on the console like found only 5GBytes (need 9GBytes) on /var/tmp/portage ...you have 3 seconds to abort with ^C or I will continue will not help for psychological reasons: One who starts such a megabuild (and knows it will run for hours) will press RETURN after the specific command and will go to bed. My suggestion would be to abort hard at once and only when given with option -f space (force) will ignore _only_ the warning about missing free space on hd. Other warnings will still be able to abort. This way, the PYTHONPATH problem would have been discovered right in the start phase and not after the whole build process when it comes to the install process. Only my two cents -- your mileage may vary. Keep hacking! Meino -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email-based games
On 5/29/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for some fun email based games?I havenever played any before, I don't know if any exist.I guess I have some turn-based strategy like game in mind.I wanted tosee If I could get a friend to play across the Net. The requirements are it needs to run on Gentoo(me) and Windows(him) (orbe able to run fine in vmware for me).Oh, and it needs to be fun : )Thanks,Jim There's an entire website devoted to over a hundred such games. Check out Richard Rognlie's gamerz.net. In particular the PlayByEMail (PBEM) section at http://www.gamerz.net/pbmserv/ Some of the games are pretty active -- renju often has a score of games starting or ending each day. You'l also have no problem finding chess or go opponents. For a similar turn-based experience, you can try the web-based LittleGolem at http://www.littlegolem.net/jsp/index.jsp -- the pace is very similar, and you can get email notifications when it's your turn, but viewing the game and making moves is done via a browser. There are not as many distinct games as exist on gamerz, because that system allows third parties to write the game engine, so there are contributors who've added to the collection. Enjoy! ++ kevin-- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 04:28, Ryan Tandy wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 30 May 2006 03:27, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: On 5/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) Id just like to second this comment, I also think that that is a very bad stereotype these days because me as well as a lot of my friends dont drink. Sorry if this is off topic it just needed to be said. bah, that only shows how lame teens are today! ;) Well, if I wasn't busy with Gentoo, maybe I'd have time to go drinking a bit! :P that is the point, where friends are important: sometimes you need someone who calls you and suggests an evening of AxisAllies (the board game), beer, pizza and cigarillos (because puffing one while throwing the dice boosts your luck. Hours, days spent with this game have confirmed it!), or invites everybody to a drunken saunapool party *sigh* be 17 again.. or 18... or even 20 (not a teen.. but still a fun phase of life). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 00:40 +0200, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Tuesday 30 May 2006 00:13, Jamie Dobbs wrote: You people need to remove me from you mailing lists all together. Iam so pissed off with getting 80 email of a bunch of other peoples bullshit, that iam ready to start getting nasty. fucking remove me from your emailing list. Only you are capable of removing yourself from the list - no-one else can do it for you. Send an email from the address that is getting the unwanted email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] then reply to the confirmation email you will be sent and you will be unsubscribed. One question remains though... how on earth did you get subscribed to the list without your knowledge as all subscription requests require confirmation. maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I wasn't. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:32 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) I'm 26 and never been drunk, although if I smell alcohol I can simulate the effect, and actually feel the effect through vicarious experience. All part of my conditioning. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:32 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: maybe he was drunk. If you look at his adress, he seems to be a teen - and who was not constantly drunk and did silly things as a teen? I'm 18 and I've never been drunk. Ever. Seriously. Thanks for your time. ;) I'm 26 and never been drunk, although if I smell alcohol I can simulate the effect, and actually feel the effect through vicarious experience. All part of my conditioning. I'm 38, pushing on 39 pretty hard, and I have never been drunk. I can't stand the smell of alcohol though. It even took me a sec to remember how to spell it. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] udev rules and boot + SCSI disks
Hi...
I made a gentoo installation by reading gentoo installation guide.
When I boot from livecd the configuration of my disks is as follows:
BUS=scsi
/dev/sda - SYSFS{model}==SAMSUNG SP...
BUS=scsi
/dev/sdb - SYSFS{model}==SysOp
BUS=scsi
/dev/sdc - SYSFS{model}==Dados
I got this information through udevinfo shell command.
/dev/sdb has BIOS boot priority, so I installed grub on it.
But when I boot the system with the kernel that I compiled (yes, I
put all modules/drivers required for my scsi controllers and sata on
it), the udev recognize the disks in a different order, such as:
BUS=scsi
/dev/sda - SYSFS{model}==SysOp
BUS=scsi
/dev/sdb - SYSFS{model}==Dados
BUS=scsi
/dev/sdc - SYSFS{model}==SAMSUNG SP123245
so, when gentoo activate udev the system shows a message that the
boot device was not specified or not recognized. I go to shell and
type dmesg, the disks is recognized but in such order that I said, not
as the same as livecd. I started up the system with livecd again, than
I created the file /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules with the following
rules:
BUS==scsi, SYSFS{model}==SAMSUNG SP123245, NAME=/dev/sda
BUS==scsi, SYSFS{model}==SysOp , NAME=/dev/sdb
BUS==scsi, SYSFS{model}==Dados , NAME=/dev/sdc
and finally I typed:
# udevstartup
# exit
# umount /mnt/gentoo/dev/ /mnt/gentoo/proc /mnt/gentoo
# reboot
The system continue showing me the same message, after activate
udev, the boot device was not find or not recognized.
So, what I'm doing wrong? All pointers/suggestion are accepted. When
I installed grub on /dev/sdb when I was on livecd everything went
fine.
Thank you,
Leandro.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 22:42 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: I'm 38, pushing on 39 pretty hard, and I have never been drunk. I can't stand the smell of alcohol though. It even took me a sec to remember how to spell it. Just think of the simpsons to help you spell it: Moe: Phone call for Al, Al Coholic, is there an Al Coholic here? heh heh. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au What kind of love is that? Not to be loved; never to have shown love. -- Commissioner Nancy Hedford, Metamorphosis, stardate 3219.8 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Tuesday 30 May 2006 05:35 skrev Michael Sullivan: I'm 26 and never been drunk, and although if I smell alcohol I can simulate the effect, and actually feel the effect through vicarious experience. Ehh.. how would you know?? ;) -- Bo Andresen pgpHRTQwUs5Bi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 22:42 -0500, Teresa and Dale wrote: I'm 38, pushing on 39 pretty hard, and I have never been drunk. I can't stand the smell of alcohol though. It even took me a sec to remember how to spell it. Just think of the simpsons to help you spell it: Moe: Phone call for Al, Al Coholic, is there an Al Coholic here? heh heh. LOL Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorry!
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: that is the point, where friends are important: sometimes you need someone who calls you and suggests an evening of AxisAllies (the board game), beer, pizza and cigarillos (because puffing one while throwing the dice boosts your luck. Hours, days spent with this game have confirmed it!), or invites everybody to a drunken saunapool party *sigh* be 17 again.. or 18... or even 20 (not a teen.. but still a fun phase of life). I'd have to say I'm enjoying my early thirties much more than I ever did my late teens... being able to afford liquor that comes in glass bottles rather than plastic might have something to do with it. :-) kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains
Sunday 28 May 2006 18:21 skrev Kevin O'Gorman: if [ x != x$PS1 ] ; then SHELL_LOGIN=1 else # Probably scp; empty string is false SHELL_LOGIN= fi if [ -n $SHELL_LOGIN ] [...] IMHO it seems kind of lame to use one shell variable to create another instead of just using the one that is already there... Also shouldn't: if [ x != x$PS1 ] be equivalent to: if [ -z $PS1 ] ? -- Bo Andresen pgpP3j2fvgiUj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains
Tuesday 30 May 2006 06:26 skrev Bo Ørsted Andresen: if [ -z $PS1 ] That of course should have been negated... if [ -n $PS1 ] -- Bo Andresen pgpnSDqa93h5t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains
On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 06:26 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: Also shouldn't: if [ x != x$PS1 ] be equivalent to: if [ -z $PS1 ] I see this [ x != x$BLAH ] test all over the place, especially in the /etc/init.d scripts. Maybe -z is not standardised or something? Dunno why people use it. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au It is contrary to reasoning to say that there is a vacuum or space in which there is absolutely nothing. -- Descartes -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Email-based games
JimD wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for some fun email based games? I have never played any before, I don't know if any exist. I guess I have some turn-based strategy like game in mind. I wanted to see If I could get a friend to play across the Net. The requirements are it needs to run on Gentoo(me) and Windows(him) (or be able to run fine in vmware for me). Oh, and it needs to be fun : ) Thanks, Jim Thanks everyone. Some of these look pretty cool. :-) Jim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= There's no place like 127.0.0.1 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= JimD Central FL, USA, Earth, Sol -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains
Tuesday 30 May 2006 06:48 skrev Iain Buchanan:
I see this [ x != x$BLAH ] test all over the place, especially in
the /etc/init.d scripts. Maybe -z is not standardised or something?
Dunno why people use it.
You do?? I don't:
$ grep \[a-z]\ /etc/init.d/*
/etc/init.d/halt.sh:if [[ ${cmd} == u ]]; then
/etc/init.d/xdm:# How this basically works, is the a runlevel is a additional
/etc/init.d/xdm:# runlevel never gets changed to this runlevel. Along with the
a
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Re: [gentoo-user] SSH hosed, only rubble remains
Tuesday 30 May 2006 06:48 skrev Iain Buchanan: I see this [ x != x$BLAH ] test all over the place, especially in the /etc/init.d scripts. Maybe -z is not standardised or something? Dunno why people use it. Having searched a little further I have been able to locate a few scripts that uses this in my bin folders. Common for those scripts are that they are sh scripts and not bash scripts. Looking at 'man sh' you find no -z or -n but they are in 'man bash'. I think it's safe to say that .bashrc is a bash script and to make it even more amusing (or whatever) Kevin does use both -z and -n a little further down in his script. -- Bo Andresen pgpOokfUvsjw4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice build failed.
Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Besides, by looking at the terminal while merging packages, you will soon notice, that lot's of packages add their very own CFLAGS to your default ones. For example mplayer or xine-lib was compiled with '-O3' on my system, allthough i have '-O2' in my CFLAGS. (As far as i know, gcc -O3 -O2 == gcc -O3). Where packages do this, should they not filter out the appropriate flags from the user's CFLAGS and substitute their flags rather than having both flags on the command line? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: A8V motherboard defective ?
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 02:01, Joseph wrote: I removed one memory stick (running only on one in B1) and it compiled just fine and it keeps compiling, I swap memory sticks (replacing the one in B1 with the one I removed from A1) still running on one memory stick and it keeps compiling just fine, no errors. So it would indicate the memory sticks are OK. Should I suspect the motherboard? I have the same MB, and I seem to remember it can run with A1+A2 or B1+B2 with a little performance loss. If the power supply unit and temperature are ok (triple check PSU!), then it is likely the MB being defective if it is unable to bear two memory sticks that perform well when plugged one at the time. Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.16-gentoo-r8, Compiled #2 PREEMPT Mon May 29 20:21:56 CEST 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2007.31 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
