[gentoo-user] Re: System maintainance, emerge --depclean, revdep-rebuild
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 02:05, Alan E. Davis wrote:
updates. My laptop, with only a 50GB HDD, requires to download 700GB
to emerge -uDv world.
It's very odd... I had a common repository for four gentoo boxes,
(various arches) and after months of upgrade it was less than 13 GB.
Packages installed in main system: 1225.
It's time to thin down.
It's time to rationalize :-)
I have ${DISTDIR} (see /etc/make.conf) on an external disk, common to
all systems.
Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] install with no network
I will have network access AFTER I compile the madwifi driver for my wireless card. I want to complete a Gentoo install without the network. If you need madwifi drivers, an option that you have is to boot off a Knoppix disc, set up wifi on Knoppix (it includes the madwifi drivers I think), open up a terminal and proceed with the regular Gentoo installation process. At least that's how I would do it. -- Evan Klitzke -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
On 7/18/06, Alexander Puchmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there ! Hello again. Did you read my reply to the first time you sent this? -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gtk+ emerge error
On 7/18/06, Trevor Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: checking gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2 !!! Digest verification failed: !!! /usr/portage/distfiles/gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2 !!! Reason: Filesize does not match recorded size !!! Got: 12303676 !!! Expected: 313941 Try a sync again. The correct size is 12303676. If this doesn't help, provide the output of emerge --info and ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/gtk+-2.8.19.tar.bz2 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: System maintainance, emerge --depclean, revdep-rebuild
My mistake: 700MB NOT 700GB. Nevertheless, I mean to take a look at
your advice.
One machine is ordinarily at school on a sporadically fast connection
(but not during working hours, when it is slower than a dialup). One
is a laptop, with the least HDD space. The other (now crashed) is at
home. The firewall at work makes it very difficult or well nigh onto
impossible to ssh into that box, and the box at home is only on line
when I dial in.
I want to set up a $DISTDIR. An external disk would work. When I have one.
Alan
On 7/19/06, Francesco Talamona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 02:05, Alan E. Davis wrote:
updates. My laptop, with only a 50GB HDD, requires to download 700GB
to emerge -uDv world.
It's very odd... I had a common repository for four gentoo boxes,
(various arches) and after months of upgrade it was less than 13 GB.
Packages installed in main system: 1225.
It's time to thin down.
It's time to rationalize :-)
I have ${DISTDIR} (see /etc/make.conf) on an external disk, common to
all systems.
Ciao
Francesco
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Re: [gentoo-user] System maintainance, emerge --depclean, revdep-rebuild
On 7/18/06, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have avoided emerge --depclean in spite of the recommendations of several list members both to me and as a matter of course in day to day messages. However, I am reluctant because of none other than the initial messages when trying to do so: Depclean can be a problem if you have not fully updated your system. There are two things required for depclean to be safe: 1. emerge -DNuvp world must produce nothing. 2. revdep-rebuild must not want to rebuild anything. But even if these 2 things are satisfied, depclean could still remove packages that you really want installed, so it is always best to review the list to watch for unwanted removals. It's time to thin down. I have installed kde and gnome, and a bunch of other display/window managers. I now use enlightenment 17 exclusively, so I could do away with a lot of cruft. But emerge --depclean is removing quite a few programs that are useful to me. If there is something in the --depclean output that you want to keep, use emerge --noreplace pkg to add it to the world file and prevent depclean from removing it or any of its dependancies. I am still being bitten by libexpat.so.0 quite frequently. One of two of the programs involved are serious problems, since the offenders are other libraries or dependencies. Usually I can just re-emerge the affected package, and the problem is temporarily solved. Some programs that I have done that for, are now, after a couple of months, doing it again. You use revdep-rebuild to rebuild any packages that depend on a specific library. In this case, you should be able to solve these problems permanently with: revdep-rebuild --library=libexpat.so.0 Should I go ahead and emerge --depclean? How about revdep-rebuild? I am spending my entire summer trying to deal with these systems. I loathe to do this process package by package. What I would recommend at this point: 1. review your world file (/var/lib/portage/world). Take out any packages (like KDE or Gnome) that you no longer care about having installed. 2. Review the output of emerge --depclean --pretend world. For any packages that you do not want removed, use emerge --noreplace to add them to world. This is actually optional, you can always re-merge stuff later if you need it. 3. Review your /etc/make.profile link. Now is as good a time as any to update your profile if you are not using 2006.0. (assuming you are using the default-linux/x86 profiles): cd /etc rm make.profile ln -s ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.0 make.profile 4. From your local internet cafe, emerge -DNuv --fetchonly world. This will download the distfiles needed to get your system up-to-date. No compiling at this point, although you might want to pick up some coffee! :-) 5. Run emerge -DNuv system, followed by etc-update, python-updater, and perl-cleaner. This should get your required system packages fully current, and should ensure that python (really critical!) and perl keep working. 6. If you have not yet updated to gcc-3.4.6, you will want to follow the gcc upgrade guide [1] at this point. You can choose between the revdep-rebuild route or the emerge -e system; emerge -e world route. The revdep-rebuild is usually faster, but probably works best on an otherwise up-to-date and clean system. Actually for the number of packages you have installed, and the number of things depclean wants to remove, the revdep-rebuild method might be slower than emerge -e system ; emerge -e world! So I would probably recommend the emerge -e steps, and if you do that you can skip to step 9 below. 7. Run emerge -e system. This is probably not necessary, but just in case the depclean would remove something that would break dynamic linking, this will make sure you maintain a system that works well enough to complete the rest of steps. 8. Run emerge -DNuv world. This should get the rest of your system up to date. 9. Run emerge --depclean world. 10. Run revdep-rebuild. That should get you fully up to date with a consistent system. At this point, you may want to do something a bit dangerous, and look at the output of emerge --prune --pretend world. Prune *is* a dangerous command, and should *never* be run against world without the pretend option. It's main use here is to identify obsolete slotted packages (like old KDE versions, old kernel sources, old gcc versions, etc) that you can safely remove. For these, you can do emerge --prune gcc, emerge --prune gentoo-sources, etc. Do not prune any autoconf or automake packages. Glib, gtk, and qt packages should probably be left alone as well. It is always a good idea to quickpkg things before pruning, and follow a prune with emerge -Dv --usepkgonly world to re-install anything that really is required. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS in /etc/make.conf for two sound cards
Hey again, listees, I need more hand holding. From lspci: snip stuff not applicable 00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712 [Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 05) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX 5700] ( rev a1) I put this in my /etc/make.conf file # Set video and sound card(s) VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvidia vesa ALSA_CARDS=emu10k1 ICE1712 Is that correct for my M-Audio Delta 1010 sound card? -- Phil Sexton My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info/ Free tunes: ftp://fancypiper.info/ Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 05:31, James wrote:
Yes HP is one of them. Purchased the system through Office Depot.
Will not make this mistake again.
In the UK at least HP sell refurbished and slightly obsolete components with
one year warranty on ebay. If you bid when the footy, Wimbledon, etc., is on
the telly you can get a pretty descent box for a relatively low price. Of
course, there's morons who keep outbidding themselves and push up prices for
everyone else . . . but even so it's worth looking into it. Buying HP_Compaq
from a shop is an absolute no-no, unless they're throwing the darn things
out. It occasionally happens, but not that often. Unfortunately, with a low
price comes the 'compaqified' installation image. The best solution that I
have found is to shrink the partition with gparted *before* the machine is
ever booted up and image this smaller partition onto a DVD - should you ever
want to resell the computer.
If these are new systems, I would give HP support a call and demand
they send you the WinXP OEM installation CD.
They will. But at a price (not much) and guess what, it is an image of the
original installation which as far as I recall requires the whole of the disk
for it to be installed again! Can you believe them!
After blowing away the NTFS (XP) stuff via reformatting. I'm going to
see if I can install/restore XP from the backup partition to
the newly reduced 30Meg partition.
Surprise me if this works
If HP forces me to choose between gentoo and XP, by_by XP.
Yes I know the 10.6 gig of XP will fit, what I was looking for
is an opinion on blowing away the orginal XP on the 85 gig partition,
reformatting with several new partitions for Gentoo and XP and using
the XP restore from the 9 gig partition as the end of the drive, where
the HP-XP restore software is located.
Surprise me again for the reasons mentioned above. I believe that it will
either overwrite the partitions you've created or bomb out with an error.
If nobody posts a better idea by tomorrow morning, it's by by XP.
I have been successful with a number of 32bit HP-Compaq machines by doing the
following:
Boot into WinXP and uninstall all system software and applications (e.g.
Windoze IM, Outlook Express, etc.) that you do not need. Refrag the machine
using the native defrag application from the Administrative Tools. Reboot
-- defrag. Repeat the cycle of rebooting and defragging a couple more
times until there is no discernible fragmentation. Use gparted to resize the
partition and create new as required. So far I had no failures, although on
some older machines with low memory the shrinking can take absolute ages (it
doesn't fail, just takes forever).
Is there any free download software (even if it's a binary) to
defrag this ntfs partition, for an amd64 ? Googling for
{OODefrag +amd64 } does not produce anything useful.
Please forgive me if I have missed a critical point in this thread - why does
it have to be 64bit? Won't the WinXP 32bit defrag tool do the job?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 01:57, Richard Fish wrote: Fortunately for my laptop, unexpected power loss is never an issue. Lockups still are though, so I make sure to build with SysRq support. Other than xorg.conf where else do you need to specify this? If my xorg locks up I lose the keyboard/mouse and have to pull the plug no matter what. :-( -- Regards, Mick pgpzwHGi1viJd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On 7/19/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than xorg.conf where else do you need to specify this? If my xorg locks up I lose the keyboard/mouse and have to pull the plug no matter what. :-( Not in xorg.conf at all. It is a kernel option CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ, enabled by Magic SysRq key under Kernel Hacking. The nice thing is that it usually works even if X is completely hosed, to the point where even the CapsLock key light doesn't work. The hard part is to remember what the shortcuts are at the point you need them! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing from linux Laptop
On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks: I am looking for a resource / howto to set up printing from my laptop (gentoo / fluxbox) to 2 printers that are being shared on my windows XP desktop as well as printers shared from my print server (windows 2003 AD) Have you looked at the official documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7/19/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the last week or so, every email I have sent to gentoo-user has resulted in a bounce message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody else seeing this? It's getting really annoying... I have exactly the same thing and it annoyes me too. -- Pozdrawiam Janusz YANOUSHek Bossy gg# 791964 tlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 10:05, Janusz Bossy wrote: On 7/19/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the last week or so, every email I have sent to gentoo-user has resulted in a bounce message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody else seeing this? It's getting really annoying... I have exactly the same thing and it annoyes me too. I only got a couple of these idiotic messages and then they stopped - if I remember right I reported them as spam in gmail and that was that . . . :-) -- Regards, Mick pgpELkvgpTv8H.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 09:23, Richard Fish wrote: On 7/19/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than xorg.conf where else do you need to specify this? If my xorg locks up I lose the keyboard/mouse and have to pull the plug no matter what. :-( Not in xorg.conf at all. It is a kernel option CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ, enabled by Magic SysRq key under Kernel Hacking. Doh! That's what I was doing wrong. :-P The hard part is to remember what the shortcuts are at the point you need them! I've hit those buttons so many times I know the sequence by heart. LOL Thanks! -- Regards, Mick pgpEp05M9u0vr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: amd64 installation: which file system?
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:32:17 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: I'm too lazy to search all over the net for xfs power outage or power loss, here's a couple of examples: http://lwn.net/Articles/181355/ http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=4#doc_chap4 It seems the latest releases are more forgiving, less prone to overwriting open files with random data when power fails. but it is still risky to run on a system without some form of battery. -- Neil Bothwick Save energy: Drive a smaller shell. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Printing from linux Laptop
Richard Fish wrote: On 7/18/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks: I am looking for a resource / howto to set up printing from my laptop (gentoo / fluxbox) to 2 printers that are being shared on my windows XP desktop as well as printers shared from my print server (windows 2003 AD) Have you looked at the official documentation: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml If you want to print through your WinXP machine *without* Samba then you need to set it up to share printers with unix machines. Go to: Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components Other Network File and Print Services Print Services for UNIX. This service will need to be started manually (from admin tools) or added to your start up list (Run: msconfig.exe). You may well need to configure your WinXP firewall for this and it would be a good idea to limit connections to your Linux box LAN IP address. I believe the above should do what you want, but I haven't tried it myself. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
Leonardo wrote: From what I've understand, different versions of gcc and glibc can coexist in the same gentoo system, and all other installed programs should have no problem if I choose the new gcc with gcc-config. Am I right? Not quite. The problem is, that the gcc package not only delivers the gcc compiler package, but also some libraries. Further, gcc 4.1.x compiled programs are not quite compatible with gcc 3.x compiled programs - that's a problem, when you compile a library with 4.x and still have 3.x compiled programs around. Because I don'want to recompile the whole system with a different gcc version You really should recompile everything when you update to gcc 4.1.x from 3.x. See the GCC upgrade doc at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Alexander Skwar -- rm_-rf_ The real value of KDE is that they inspired and push the development of GNOME :-) -- #Debian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19/07/06, Janusz Bossy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/19/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the last week or so, every email I have sent to gentoo-user has resulted in a bounce message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody else seeing this? It's getting really annoying... I have exactly the same thing and it annoyes me too. Me too, but what's even more weird is I didn't get Richard's initial post to this thread, and IIRC Richard, you use gmail too with an alias or something?! ... awaiting response from kyavuz ... LOL -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
060719 Alexander Skwar wrote: Leonardo wrote: different versions of gcc and glibc can coexist in the same system and all other installed programs should have no problem if I choose the new gcc with gcc-config. The problem is the gcc package not only delivers the gcc compiler package, but also some libraries. Further, gcc 4.1.x compiled programs are not quite compatible with gcc 3.x compiled programs - when you compile a lib with 4.x and still have 3.x compiled pgms around. You really should recompile everything when you update to gcc 4.1.x from 3.x. I upgraded to 4.1.1 a couple of weeks ago haven't done a mass recompile I have yet to run into any problem: yes, there's always tomorrow (grin). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
The problem is the gcc package not only delivers the gcc compiler package, but also some libraries. Further, gcc 4.1.x compiled programs are not quite compatible with gcc 3.x compiled programs - when you compile a lib with 4.x and still have 3.x compiled pgms around. You really should recompile everything when you update to gcc 4.1.x from 3.x. I upgraded to 4.1.1 a couple of weeks ago haven't done a mass recompile I have yet to run into any problem: yes, there's always tomorrow (grin). same here! Well, but the problem that people see is, that actually the libstc++ of gcc 4.1 _should_ be compatible with the libstdc++ of gcc 3.x - well, but the gentoo-people are usually pessimistic about it :-) And actually some incompatibilities are already known, i think (but they didn't affect me *eg*) (actually there was an ABI-switch within th gcc3.x series, before gcc 3.4 i think) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
Philip Webb wrote: 060719 Alexander Skwar wrote: Leonardo wrote: different versions of gcc and glibc can coexist in the same system and all other installed programs should have no problem if I choose the new gcc with gcc-config. The problem is the gcc package not only delivers the gcc compiler package, but also some libraries. Further, gcc 4.1.x compiled programs are not quite compatible with gcc 3.x compiled programs - when you compile a lib with 4.x and still have 3.x compiled pgms around. You really should recompile everything when you update to gcc 4.1.x from 3.x. I upgraded to 4.1.1 a couple of weeks ago haven't done a mass recompile I have yet to run into any problem: yes, there's always tomorrow (grin). I upgraded to 4.1.1 and ran into massive problems. People might remember a short thread on this list... Because of the problems I had, I would *NEVER* encourage people to *NOT* recompile everything. Alexander Skwar -- rm_-rf_ The real value of KDE is that they inspired and push the development of GNOME :-) -- #Debian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] install with no network
Jeremy Olexa wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uwe Thiem wrote: On 16 July 2006 22:54, James Lockie wrote: I'm trying to install without network connectivity. I got to the point in the install guide where it says to emerge a kernel. I can't emerge anything because I'm not on the network. HELP Well, you could install from a stage 3 CD but you will never be able to upgrade anything without network. Gentoo is pretty much a network distribution. You seem to be out of luck. On the other hand, how did you send your email without *any* network access? Uwe There are networkless install handbooks availible. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml See the last link in step 2. I agree with the last poster, gentoo will be pretty difficult to maintain without a network connection, on the otherhand it will be pretty secure ;) Basically I would recommend downloading the proper distfiles from the mirrors and then putting them in /usr/portage/distfiles and you will be all set. I got it installed without a network and I compiled my wireless modules. :-) Unfortunately I do not have the dhcp distfile so I can't start my wireless interface. :-( I'll have to grab that with Windoze and then I'll be good to go :-) - -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEutslFN7pD9kMi/URAqLxAJwIWuVUWEeTDgV4XiNONHZZFlfG5gCdFvsh m7n6tPLKtyai2nEakQ+XxOQ= =sSrz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
Because of the problems I had, I would *NEVER* encourage people to *NOT* recompile everything. Sorry, but double negatives only confuse me. :-) So you are advocating that everyone recompile everything. Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else getting bounces from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
Richard Broersma Jr wrote: Because of the problems I had, I would *NEVER* encourage people to *NOT* recompile everything. Sorry, but double negatives only confuse me. :-) Me too - sorry about that. So you are advocating that everyone recompile everything. Yes, exactly. It *MIGHT* not be required, but I wouldn't bet a 0,01€ on it. Also, I'd quite understand that bugs would be rejected, if it were so, that the user would've upgraded to 4.1.x without recompiling everything. There *ARE* known problems and the documentation states, that everything should be recompiled. Alexander Skwar -- rm_-rf_ The real value of KDE is that they inspired and push the development of GNOME :-) -- #Debian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:34:08 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: I upgraded to 4.1.1 a couple of weeks ago haven't done a mass recompile I have yet to run into any problem: yes, there's always tomorrow (grin). I upgraded to 4.1.1 and ran into massive problems. People might remember a short thread on this list... Oh yes! I recompiled glibc, to be on the safe side, and KDE because it did have problems (and I wanted to see if the kdehiddenvisibility flag made any difference) but nothing else caused a problem. Running a testing system, most packages would be recompiled within a month anyway. Because of the problems I had, I would *NEVER* encourage people to *NOT* recompile everything. I prefer to let them make up their own minds about this. I'm not saying people shouldn't recompile everything, just that it may not be necessary. If you have problems, emerge -e world may be quicker than trying to track down the troublesome packages. Me, I prefer to find and solve problems than do the Gentoo equivalent of a reinstall. -- Neil Bothwick Doing it right is no excuse for not meeting the schedule. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] OT - Dovecot and authentication
I've got a problem; My Dovecot installation uses plain text authentication. I don't like the idea of unencrypted passwords being sent over the Internet, so I want to switch to a different authentication method. I'm mainly worried about my webmail client. I configured Apache last week for SSL access to the webmail client (Squirrelmail), but my Windows users have been saying that they haven't been able to access Squirrelmail since last week before I converted it to SSL. I tried it myself in Windows. Windows said it couldn't even find my domain. After I turned off the SSL, Windows found it. I need something else. The Dovecot wiki mentions several other authentication methods (cram-md5 looks promising), but it doesn't say how to set up a cram-md5 database. Can anyone direct me on how to do this? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Postfix + Auth with SASL
Hi! I'm trying to setup postfix with authentication. I have PAM/NSSwitch configured to use LDAP backend. I also installed cyrus-sasl, but when I test authentication I got some errors. What I'm doing wrong? Some relevant information: /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method:pam --- telnet port 25: embedded postfix # telnet localhost 25 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 Servidor de E-Mail Embedded EHLO mydomain.com 250-embedded.mydomain.com 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 1024 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-STARTTLS 250 8BITMIME quit 221 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. log: Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: TlRMTVNTUAABB4IIogAFASgKDw== Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: smtpd_sasl_authenticate: decoded response: NTLMSSP Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: NTLM server step 1 Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: client flags: 8207 Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: smtpd_sasl_authenticate: uncoded challenge: NTLMSSP Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: 334 TlRMTVNTUAACOgA6ADAFggIAxSfRzXMryGYARQBNAEIARQBEAEQARQBEAC4ARQBNAEIARQBEAEQARQBEAC4AVQBGAEMARwAuAEUARABVAC4AQgBSAA== Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: TlRMTVNTUAADGAAYAI4YABgApgAAACgAKABIDgAOAHAQABAAfgC+BYIAAgUBKAoPZQBtAGIAZQBkAGQAZQBkAC4AdQBmAGMAZwAuAGUAZAB1AC4AYgByAGwAZQBhAG4AZAByAG8AQwBPAE0AUABPAFIAMAA2AFhBruTJ7QP1D2kjfvHaMU0IHH0O2a0i6qfimYU8bx0zsRE2W3N/+wpohdPaH5f26Q== Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: smtpd_sasl_authenticate: decoded response: NTLMSSP Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: NTLM server step 2 Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: client user: leandro Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: client domain: embedded.ufcg.edu.br Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: warning: SASL authentication failure: no secret in database Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: warning: unknown[192.168.1.100]: SASL NTLM authentication failed Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: 535 Error: authentication failed Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: AUTH NTLM Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: smtpd_sasl_authenticate: sasl_method NTLM Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: smtpd_sasl_authenticate: uncoded challenge: Jul 19 11:20:27 embedded postfix/smtpd[31410]: unknown[192.168.1.100]: 334 main.cf: smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sasl_local_domain = $myhostname broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, check_relay_domains []s Leandro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Dovecot and authentication
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 16:07 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:52:40 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: I've got a problem; My Dovecot installation uses plain text authentication. I don't like the idea of unencrypted passwords being sent over the Internet, so I want to switch to a different authentication method. I'm mainly worried about my webmail client. I configured Apache last week for SSL access to the webmail client (Squirrelmail), Are SquirrelMail and Dovecot running on the same box? If so, the unencrypted passwords are only being used within that box, between SquirrelMail and Dovecot. but my Windows users have been saying that they haven't been able to access Squirrelmail since last week before I converted it to SSL. You need to fix the SSL/Windows/SquirrelMail problem, otherwise your users will be sending plain text passwords across the Internet, no matter how SquirrelMail communicates with Dovecot. What problem? I could connect to Squirrelmail just fine from Seamonkey in Linux. The problem is Windows. I don't do Windows. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix + Auth with SASL
Hi, On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:07:33 -0300 Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I'm trying to setup postfix with authentication. I have PAM/NSSwitch configured to use LDAP backend. I also installed cyrus-sasl, but when I test authentication I got some errors. What I'm doing wrong? Some relevant information: /etc/sasl2/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method:pam Shouldn't that be /usr/lib/sasl/smtpd.conf by default? Public available documentation suggest so. I must admit that I don't run cyrus sasl on Gentoo, currently. And the documentation suggests PAM instead of pam. Note that authentication using PAM is only used for plain text authentication (i.e. not for CRAM-MD5 or DIGEST-MD5). So I have these additional lines in my config: mech_list: plain login but I don't really know if it does anything at all (I'm hesitating to deactivate it and risk inavailability of service...) -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Dovecot and authentication
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: You need to fix the SSL/Windows/SquirrelMail problem, otherwise your users will be sending plain text passwords across the Internet, no matter how SquirrelMail communicates with Dovecot. What problem? I could connect to Squirrelmail just fine from Seamonkey in Linux. The problem is Windows. I don't do Windows. If you run a server that will be accessed from Windows, you are doing Windows and have to fix the problem. Otherwise, no matter how secure the communication between SquirrelMail and Dovecot, your users' passwords will be transmitted over the net in plain text. I've just tried to connect to SquirrelMail over HTTPS from a default XP+SP2 installation and it worked fine. Unless all your users have identically misconfigured/broken computers, the fault is likely to be in your Apache or SquirrelMail configuration. -- Neil Bothwick IRQs? We don't need no stinking IRQs! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] pam-login and shadow-4.0.15-r2
Hi all, I haven't emerged my system in a while because of this problem, and now it is getting back to me. pam-login reports that it is being blocked by =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2. The problem here is that there are no versions of shadow less than that that are still in the portage tree. Further, that version of shadow is blocking all versions of pam-login. Is there a virtual out there that I can use to take out one of these packages and replace with another package in the same virtual? Or, are there any other steps that need to be taken? Kris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS in /etc/make.conf for two sound cards
Phil,That's correct, although you don't need the caps. It's just ice1712. Not sure if that will affect it or not. In the future, you will want to look at the ALSA wiki article, which contains directions on where to find the names of your sound card modules. http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_Complete_%28includes_dmix%29Jason Weisberger[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 7/19/06, Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey again, listees, I need more hand holding. From lspci:snip stuff not applicable00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. ICE1712[Envy24] PCI Multi-Channel I/O Controller (rev 02)00: 0b.0 Multimediaaudio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 05)01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36.2 [GeForce FX5700] ( rev a1)I put this in my /etc/make.conf file # Set video and sound card(s)VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvidia vesaALSA_CARDS=emu10k1 ICE1712Is that correct for my M-Audio Delta 1010 sound card?--Phil SextonMy Home Page: http://fancypiper.info/Free tunes: ftp://fancypiper.info/Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Jason Weisberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login and shadow-4.0.15-r2
Kris Kerwin wrote: Hi all, I haven't emerged my system in a while because of this problem, and now it is getting back to me. pam-login reports that it is being blocked by =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2. The problem here is that there are no versions of shadow less than that that are still in the portage tree. Further, that version of shadow is blocking all versions of pam-login. Is there a virtual out there that I can use to take out one of these packages and replace with another package in the same virtual? Or, are there any other steps that need to be taken? Kris Just unmerge shadow and update pam-login after that. And do not log out between these two steps ;) There is also a thread:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-443022.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login and shadow-4.0.15-r2
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:07, Kris Kerwin wrote: Is there a virtual out there that I can use to take out one of these packages and replace with another package in the same virtual? Or, are there any other steps that need to be taken? Search this ML on GMANE - around 3-4 weeks ago there were about a dozen threads on this topic. It should be similarly easy to find threads on the Gentoo Forums and I vaguely recall it being covered on the GWN. If you fail to find what you're after post back and I'll have a look when I get a minute. -- Regards, Mick pgpwODmPrb55V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] pam-login and shadow-4.0.15-r2
Matthias Guede wrote: Kris Kerwin wrote: Hi all, I haven't emerged my system in a while because of this problem, and now it is getting back to me. pam-login reports that it is being blocked by =sys-apps/shadow-4.0.15-r2. The problem here is that there are no versions of shadow less than that that are still in the portage tree. Further, that version of shadow is blocking all versions of pam-login. Is there a virtual out there that I can use to take out one of these packages and replace with another package in the same virtual? Or, are there any other steps that need to be taken? Kris Just unmerge shadow and update pam-login after that. And do not log out between these two steps ;) There is also a thread:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-443022.html Do _not_ do this! It's the other way around: unmerge pam-login and update shadow !!! Sorry, it's hot here today. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: failed to move settings and data to kmail 1.9
On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:09, Stefano Guglia wrote: hello everybody! After a new build I try to move all old kmail-1.8.3 settings and data to the new system (kmail-1.9.1). Usually it needed just replacing kmailrc and the content of ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail (and, obviously, the Mail folder..) I've never done anything like this. No KDE upgrade asked me to... Now I tried but no way to move i.e. mail accounts but also inbox subfolders and so on.. either has the new version some extra setting I ignore or am I doing something wrong? Please help, I think you interfere with kmail, I've never had upgrade problem since KDE-2.2 Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.17-gentoo-r2, Compiled #1 PREEMPT Sat Jul 8 07:47:35 CEST 2006 One 1GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 2004.89 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
On 7/18/06, Alexander Puchmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want all the drivers I don't need, nor do I want to recompile all of xorg-x11; Is there any possibility to get around this quite odd behaviour? Um, =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0 is a meta build. It is only there to depend on all of the modular X packages. Since none of those showed up, the only things that will get rebuilt by your first command is libXv and xf86-video-nv. carcharias modules # equery files xorg-x11 [ Searching for packages matching xorg-x11... ] * Contents of x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0-r1: /etc /etc/X11 /etc/X11/xorg.conf /usr /usr/X11R6 - ../usr HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Dovecot and authentication
On Wed, 2006-07-19 at 10:53 -0700, kashani wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I've got a problem; My Dovecot installation uses plain text authentication. I don't like the idea of unencrypted passwords being sent over the Internet, so I want to switch to a different authentication method. I'm mainly worried about my webmail client. I configured Apache last week for SSL access to the webmail client (Squirrelmail), but my Windows users have been saying that they haven't been able to access Squirrelmail since last week before I converted it to SSL. I tried it myself in Windows. Windows said it couldn't even find my domain. After I turned off the SSL, Windows found it. I need something else. The Dovecot wiki mentions several other authentication methods (cram-md5 looks promising), but it doesn't say how to set up a cram-md5 database. Can anyone direct me on how to do this? Do you have a real SSL cert and if so was it from a cheap provider? In many case the SSL root cert for that provider is not within IE which can break things. The fix is to add that particular SSL cert providers intermediate.crt. It's probably somewhere on their site along with directions on how to add it to Apache. kashani I'm using a self-signed certificate. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA_CARDS in /etc/make.conf for two sound cards
Jason Weisberger wrote: Phil, That's correct, although you don't need the caps. It's just ice1712. Not sure if that will affect it or not. In the future, you will want to look at the ALSA wiki article, which contains directions on where to find the names of your sound card modules. http://www.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_Complete_%28includes_dmix%29 Thanks for the linky. I answered my own question about an hour after I posted it. I dug through the docs until I found: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml. I'm re-compiling my kernel just now. -- Phil Sexton My Home Page: http://fancypiper.info/ Free tunes: ftp://fancypiper.info/ Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - Database error; Need help setting up mythweb
I'm trying to set up Mythweb. I've followed the wiki, and I get the Database Error page. I've haven't changed /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/config/conf.php or /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb/.htaccess pretty much alone because I don't understand the options there. When I put the recommended Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs/mythweb AllowOverride All Options FollowSymLinks /Directory as part of the default VirtualHost, restart Apache, and go to http://localhost/mythweb/mythweb.php, I get the dialog box saying that Seamonkey doesn't know what to do with the file and asks me what to do with it. It only does this when I have the above Directory directive active. Can anyone give me a clue what's going on? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - How can I let user mount samba shares without sudo ?
Hi all, I was hopping that some one know how I can let users ( not root ) mount samba share ( windows machines ). When I use root all work, when I try if not a superuser it says that only root can mount any clues ? thanks, Allan -- An application asked: Requires Windows 9x, NT4 or better, so I´ve installed Linux -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - How can I let user mount samba shares without sudo ?
On 7/19/06, Allan Spagnol Comar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was hopping that some one know how I can let users ( not root ) mount samba share ( windows machines ). When I use root all work, when I try if not a superuser it says that only root can mount any clues ? Add user to your options in fstab. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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[gentoo-user] amd64 install: bootstrap failed
Hello, Previously I had a long thread going about resizing an NTFS partition. Without success, I decide to just reformate and leave a 30 gig NTFS partition at the beginning of the drive. I'll worry about XP later. I started (this) new thread about debugging the amd64 installation(my first). I just used the amd64(experimential) livecd to attempt an installation. I went throught the menu and all seemed fine. Here's where it failed: snip Make.conf configured Chroot environment ready. Portage tree sync'd MARK Stating bootstrap. Exception received during 'Performing bootstrap: Stage 1ERror: FATAL: stage1: Boostrapping failed! Traceback File opt/installer/GLIClient Controller.py line 165 in run self_install_steps File /opt/installer/GLIArchitetureTemplate.py line 224, in stage1 I guess I know why the livedCD for amd64 is under experimental? Should I just follow the instructions, the old fashion way, in the Gentoo Handbook for amd64 or is a an installation(menu) system that works? The only place I really had a question was when the installation CD asked for the URl of the stage one tarball. I gave it: http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/experimental/amd64/vserver/ stage1-amd64-20060317.tar.bz2 Any better/more_current stage 1 tarballs to use? Should I have chosen another option other than the stage1 tarball? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lost deadkeys layout
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 22:28, giovedì 13 luglio 2006, Benno Schulenberg ha scritto: I install modular X from the meta packages (emerge xorg-x11 x11) and in the list is xdm already there. Okay. But what does 'equery belongs xdm' say? You really seem to have trouble reading and following instructions. Sorry, I mixed all things, sometime I already tried something, sometime I don't understand what it means... # equery belongs xdm [ Searching for file(s) xdm in *... ] x11-apps/xinit-1.0.2-r6 (/etc/conf.d/xdm) x11-apps/xinit-1.0.2-r6 (/etc/init.d/xdm) x11-apps/xdm-1.0.5 (/etc/pam.d/xdm) x11-apps/xdm-1.0.5 (/usr/bin/xdm) x11-apps/xdm-1.0.5 (/usr/lib64/X11/xdm) x11-apps/xdm-1.0.5 (/etc/X11/xdm) When you try it again, maybe move /etc/X11 out of the way before starting to emerge modular Xorg. Maybe exit from X too before starting that emerge. Benno I did it. I found that the xorg.conf doesn't work. If I remove it, the X server starts good, if I create one of them (xorgconfig, X -configure, the xorg-x11-6.8.X one), X doesn't start correctly. Of corse, without xorg.conf I can't use dpms and dri... Someone can send me a working generic xorg.conf for xorg-x11-7.0? With generic options (mouse imps/2, german layout keyboard)? I want to start from him and configure the right options... Thanks, Luigi - -- Public key GPG(0x633F86B7) on hkp://keyserver.linux.it/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEvrHjHmkkjmM/hrcRAv/BAKCFEwn+gQygeTyxtDaiKioIHJ+pVgCfSYlm uKxpzRBkIZyKLr3pBMK97H8= =i3fN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] video capture
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 17:50:04 -0400 gentoo wrote: I have tryed the cat command all I get in the .mpg is snow . I tryes to use composit video and still get snow. Do I have to tell the tuner to tune to line in port rob use ivtvctl -n to get a list of inputs mine shows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ivtvctl -n ioctl: VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT Input : 0 Name: Tuner Type: 0x0001 Audioset: 0x0003 Tuner : 0x Standard: 0x00FF ( PAL ) Status : 0 Input : 1 Name: Composite 0 Type: 0x0002 Audioset: 0x0003 Tuner : 0x Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM ) Status : 0 Input : 2 Name: Composite 1 Type: 0x0002 Audioset: 0x0003 Tuner : 0x Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM ) Status : 0 Input : 3 Name: S-Video 0 Type: 0x0002 Audioset: 0x0003 Tuner : 0x Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM ) Status : 0 Input : 4 Name: S-Video 1 Type: 0x0002 Audioset: 0x0003 Tuner : 0x Standard: 0x007F7FFF ( PAL NTSC SECAM ) Status : 0 Then use ivtvctl -p X to set the input to X - egi want to set input 1 for composite 0 so I do: ivtvctl -p 1 you can check what it is set to with ivtvctl -P [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ivtvctl -P ioctl VIDIOC_G_INPUT ok Video input = 1 On Sunday 16 July 2006 20:00, Nick Rout wrote: You have a pvr-150 which has onboard mpeg2 encoding. Most standard v4l software will not play tv from such a card, because it expects a different format from the card. For example the tvtime supported cards list says: The ivtv driver supports cards that provide high quality MPEG2 encoded video. This cards are ideal for PVR systems. However, tvtime has no MPEG2 decoding capabilities or audio playback code, and therefore cannot be used to watch live TV from these cards. Try cat /dev/video0 test.mpeg ctrl-c to stop mplayer test.mpeg or just: mplayer /dev/video you can tune the card and adjust the inputs etc with the tools provided by ivtv. Mine is permanently set to the composite inputs as it used for the output from a set top box. I have never used the tuner. getting an external composite video signal like a set top box output a VHS player is a good way to test. Move onto the tuner once you are sure you can get composite to work. On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:53:29 -0400 rob wrote: On Saturday 15 July 2006 14:15, Uwe Thiem wrote: On 15 July 2006 18:25, Richard Fish wrote: On 7/15/06, rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emerged most of the stuff in media-tv but I can't get anyone of thease to show TV most say device not configured. Evan the ones that I know point to /dev/video0 I think I did everything right. pleas help or tell me of a better card to use. Are you sure this is a card problem, and not a permissions issue? It looks like udev makes most of the device nodes in the video group. Is your user account a member of that group? Well I emerged gentoo-sources with ~86 gave me linux-2.6.17-gentoo-r3. Now the tuner comes up and using the ivtv test it now captures only snow but it is a start. I have tryed to change channel but it doesn't work. Even line in gives me the same thing. Any other seguestions rob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE
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Re: [gentoo-user] Xmodmap with unnamed keycode [solved]
Am Dienstag, 18. Jul 2006, 23:10:31 +0200 schrieb Benno Schulenberg: Bertram Scharpf wrote: I would like to map the the character 0x017f, the long s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s)i, to my X keyboard. $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 39 = s S 0x017f ssharp 0x017f ssharp' Try this instead: $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 39 = s S 0x100017f ssharp 0x100017f ssharp' Why this works, I don't know. :) Cool. This here seems to work, too: $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 39 = s S U017f ssharp U017f ssharp' Obviously there is a difference between UTF codes and X keycodes. As far as I see, `sacute' is U015b but has a Xmodmap code of 0x1b6. So both of these yield and acute-accented s: $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 39 = s S 0x01b6 ssharp 0x01b6 ssharp' $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 39 = s S U015b ssharp U015b ssharp' Setting bit 0x100 seems to mean: take the UTF-16 character. Thanks a lot. Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] remote login help
hey.. I need some help to set up a remote ssh/vnc/ftp/www access to my computer at home via dyndns.org. I am using ddclient to get to my router (which works) but can login to my machine behind the router (ssh for now, ftp and http later). The router is configured so dmz works for my IP but as soon as I want to connect to my machine behind the router I get connection refused and nothing happens. Login from within the local network works fine, so I wonder what the issue could be. Could someone enlighten me about this? thanks in advance, Karsten -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] REMOVE
Jerry McBride wrote: On Wednesday 19 July 2006 18:00, Nunya Bidness wrote: REMOVE NO! This may help you get rid of us. O_O To unsubscribe from a list, send an empty email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In other words, send a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Give that a try. Dale :-) :-) Oh, I thought the NO was funny. LOL -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1 , question on recompiling
060719 Neil Bothwick wrote: 060719 Philip Webb wrote: I upgraded to 4.1.1 a couple of weeks ago haven't done a mass recompile I have yet to run into any problem I recompiled glibc, to be on the safe side and KDE because it did have problems, but nothing else caused a problem. Yes, that's my situation: I also upgraded to Glibc 2.4 KDE 3.5.3 ; IIRC the only additional problem was a tiny glitch with Krusader, which wasn't really related to GCC 4.1.1 . Running testing, most packages wb recompiled within a month anyway. I have a lot of testing packages, which run without problems. A lot of outstanding bugs seem to affect only a few special users. Yet again, Gentoo should make a 4th category by making stable = server splitting testing into newly unmasked desktop-ready: many testing packages today are in fact desktop-ready, ie the remaining bugs will be rare easy to recover from. I wanted to see if the 'kdehiddenvisibility' flag made any difference What was your experience ? Do you recommend others (me) to use it ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
Hi, I have some MythTV frontend machines that have been happily running for about 15 months using what is now a pretty old kernel and ati-drivers package. I am having trouble updating these machines since neither the kernel or the ati-drivers ebuilds are available in portage any more and, unfortunately, nothing that is in portage seems to boot and work correctly. I wanted to know if I leave the kernel and ati-driver package alone but upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 will it work? Does xorg-x11-7+ force any specific kernel requirement? I've already found that the one ati-driver that does work doesn't seem to like any of the kernels in portage that I've tried. Please note that the issue here is that I need these Pundit-R machines to use the S-Video outputs and not the normal VGA output. If anyone else out there is using Pundit-R's with newer kernels and drivers I'd love to know about it. I don't care one way or the other about ati-drivers vs. xorg drivers. It matters not to me. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
Mark Knecht wrote: I am having trouble updating these machines since neither the kernel or the ati-drivers ebuilds are available in portage any more and, unfortunately, nothing that is in portage seems to boot and work correctly. If they work for you and there's no security issues, then why upgrade? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
On 7/19/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I am having trouble updating these machines since neither the kernel or the ati-drivers ebuilds are available in portage any more and, unfortunately, nothing that is in portage seems to boot and work correctly. If they work for you and there's no security issues, then why upgrade? :) Ryan, I'm surprised you want to take up bandwidth on the list for this. 1) MythTV-0.18-X works but has stability issues so the backend server needed to be upgraded to 0.19-X. 2) MythTV frontends must match the backend so the remote frontend, of which these two Pundit-R boxes are, must be updated. 3) The Pundit-R machines use xor-x11-6.8.2-r1. Unfortunately for me the maintainers have removed it from portage. I'm stuck in a masking issue to keep it working. 4) Unfortunately many of the parts of MYthTV-0.19-X seems to be asking for xorg-x11-6.9 or higher. With all of that I figured I might as well try to get to a new kernel, new ati-driver and new xorg-x11 along with a new MythTV and new mysql. The Gentoo devs/maintainers have a right to stop maintaining all the old revs but I DESPERATELY wish they would create an graveyard for old ebuilds that folks in my situation could download and place in my overlay. I cannot find some of these ebuilds and this newish policy has created a heck of a lot of extra work for me. Unless there is something constructive to be said please don't bring this stuff to the lists. We don't need emails as a way to send nothing but smiley's. Have a beer instead. Thanks. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?
Hi, I got good looking fonts setting for my firefox (and most others X11-progs) when installing Gentoo initially. Now I updated X11 (Xorg) and especiall firefox got a very bad font-set. Since I dont know the initial font settings of the firefox application I would be lucky, if one could post her/his one to me, so that I could get an idea, what fonts to use best. Thanks a lot for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend, Meino -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] XGL + Compiz + OpenGL issues
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I think this issue is probably caused a crappy vid carm, but I thought I'd check with you guys. I setup XGL + compiz recently. I have Xorg 7.1 and an intel i915 vid card. Everything runs fine and looks nice, but when I run another application requiring OpenGL (such as a game or even some screensavers) it runs really slow and I have horrific FPS. Any suggestions on this issue? Thanks. - -- Jayson Vaughn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEvq7pYzLA+1+DWsARAreDAJsG/AAEDNzka90GhPiqFoxTgleypQCg0OTR vCc2cz+wWZASZeQNtBJRoi0= =n6dx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?
On 7/19/06, Meino Christian Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I got good looking fonts setting for my firefox (and most others X11-progs) when installing Gentoo initially. Now I updated X11 (Xorg) and especiall firefox got a very bad font-set. Since I dont know the initial font settings of the firefox application I would be lucky, if one could post her/his one to me, so that I could get an idea, what fonts to use best. Thanks a lot for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend, Meino Did you emerge the font set that was in the xorg-x11-7 upgrade HOWTO? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg # emerge -DuNav font-adobe-100dpi font-adobe-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-100dpi \ font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-type1 \ font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi \ font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi ttf-bitstream-vera \ corefonts sharefonts freefonts font-ibm-type1 Hope this helps, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
I'd like to apologize for sending without thinking there. I'm not particularly good with names, and didn't at all connect you with the same MythTV user who's been posting all along. I realise how frustrating that probably is for you. That said, let's see if I can help: Mark Knecht wrote: 3) The Pundit-R machines use xor-x11-6.8.2-r1. Unfortunately for me the maintainers have removed it from portage. I'm stuck in a masking issue to keep it working. Have you checked in Gentoo CVS? Every ebuild that has ever existed is still in CVS, in the Attic. To use your example: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/x11-base/xorg-x11/?hideattic=0 reveals your missing xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild. The ebuild itself is at http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/gentoo-x86/x11-base/xorg-x11/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1.ebuild Hope that helps. Ryan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: maintaining all the old revs but I DESPERATELY wish they would create an graveyard for old ebuilds that folks in my situation could download Oh, but there does exist such a place. ALL of the MythTV ebuilds for example: http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/media-tv/mythtv/ HTH! =) - -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEvvsXFN7pD9kMi/URAimGAKCBO8uMZvshCqdoDBnD1JWx3wSaogCffPsB si5u78HHjn6NIQJ7PAsUaY8= =buYC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11-7.0 upgrade question
Mark Knecht wrote: I wanted to know if I leave the kernel and ati-driver package alone but upgrade to xorg-x11-7.0 will it work? Does xorg-x11-7+ force any specific kernel requirement? With X.Org 7.0, you will need to install an ati-drivers package that supports modular X. I did a quick grep and came up with this: $ grep xorg-server ati-drivers-* -l ati-drivers-8.20.8.ebuild ati-drivers-8.21.7.ebuild ati-drivers-8.21.7-r1.ebuild ati-drivers-8.22.5.ebuild ati-drivers-8.23.7.ebuild ati-drivers-8.24.8.ebuild ati-drivers-8.25.18.ebuild ati-drivers-8.26.18.ebuild If one of those is already installed, you will need to reinstall it to get the correct, dlloader-using drivers. There should be no kernel requirement from X.Org, any kernel requirement will be by ati-drivers. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts - FireFox - X11 ?
Mark Knecht wrote: Did you emerge the font set that was in the xorg-x11-7 upgrade HOWTO? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg # emerge -DuNav font-adobe-100dpi font-adobe-75dpi font-adobe-utopia-100dpi \ font-adobe-utopia-75dpi font-bh-100dpi font-bh-75dpi font-bh-type1 \ font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi \ font-bitstream-100dpi font-bitstream-75dpi ttf-bitstream-vera \ corefonts sharefonts freefonts font-ibm-type1 In general that's kind of a silly font set. No new apps still use bitmap fonts (-75dpi and -100dpi). Probably the only ones worth having there are ttf-bitstream-vera and corefonts, maybe sharefonts/freefonts if you'll settle for lower quality. Thanks, Donnie signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
Am Mittwoch, 19. Juli 2006 20:20 schrieb Richard Fish: On 7/18/06, Alexander Puchmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want all the drivers I don't need, nor do I want to recompile all of xorg-x11; Is there any possibility to get around this quite odd behaviour? Um, =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.0 is a meta build. It is only there to depend on all of the modular X packages. Since none of those showed up, the only things that will get rebuilt by your first command is libXv and xf86-video-nv. Well, I think I got the conecpt behind meta packages. My question was why do I get a different content of the VIDEO_CARDS-variable when I specify -k in emerge or not??? Greetings, Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Well, I think I got the conecpt behind meta packages. My question was why do I get a different content of the VIDEO_CARDS-variable when I specify -k in emerge or not??? You can't change the USE flags a binary package was built with. Binary packages are built with a certain set of flags, and they're stuck with that set of flags until you recompile the whole thing. I'd recommend you emerge --nodeps xorg-x11 in order to change its USEflags to the ones you want (no compilation necessary), and then emerge -k to pull in the binary packages depended on by its new flags, which will save you the compiling time. HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Amarok now wants ruby
Just went to update and noticed amarok now wants to install ruby, apparently because of Last.fm Well I don't have anything against ruby, it seems to be a fine language. I just don't want _ANOTHER_ language. Anyone know of a way to compile it without last.fm support so it doesn't pull in ruby? I didn't see a relevant USE flag. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok now wants ruby
On Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:44, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: Just went to update and noticed amarok now wants to install ruby, apparently because of Last.fm Well I don't have anything against ruby, it seems to be a fine language. I just don't want _ANOTHER_ language. Anyone know of a way to compile it without last.fm support so it doesn't pull in ruby? I didn't see a relevant USE flag. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin I believe it's used for more than just last.fm and much of it's scripting functionality now uses ruby. The lyrics grabbing scripts for example. -- Raymond Lewis Rebbeck -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-x11, $VIDEO_CARDS binary packages
Am Donnerstag, 20. Juli 2006 06:56 schrieb Ryan Tandy: Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Well, I think I got the conecpt behind meta packages. My question was why do I get a different content of the VIDEO_CARDS-variable when I specify -k in emerge or not??? You can't change the USE flags a binary package was built with. Binary packages are built with a certain set of flags, and they're stuck with that set of flags until you recompile the whole thing. OK, thats pretty obvious. I'd recommend you emerge --nodeps xorg-x11 in order to change its USEflags to the ones you want (no compilation necessary), and then emerge -k to pull in the binary packages depended on by its new flags, which will save you the compiling time. HTH. Nope, doesn't work. Same problem. I emerged with --nodeps the xorg-x11 package, with exactly the video-cards I want. Then I've tried the -k as you suggested, and still *ALL* other video-drivers are shown in the list, and VIDEO_CARDS did not show the same content as without -k. Greetings, Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
