Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Grant wrote: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? No, just remerge the packages that need to be remerged. Then emerge the rest with gcc-4.1 when updates come. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Am Freitag, 8. September 2006 05:07 schrieb ext Grant: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? It's not a question of improvement, but of consistency, especially for C++ sw like KDE. The GCC upgrade guide doesn't tell you to do so just for the sake of it. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpPt3ynCXvFo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
2006/9/8, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grant wrote: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? No, just remerge the packages that need to be remerged. Then emerge the rest with gcc-4.1 when updates come. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If you want to prevent compilation issues, applications crash, ... you may follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide[1] Boris. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml -- Quiconque me parle de Dieu en veut à ma bourse ou à ma liberté. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT Bookeeping recommendations
Nico wrote: For those who have gnucash installed, is it the 2.0 version (~86) ? Does it work fine ? I have to choose in urgence a software like this and I'm testing grisbi for now, which is a bit too basic for the interface. I need graphs and beatiful colours :) Sql-ledger is a nice one, but It's more adapted for small societies or associations, maybe that's the one you need... and if you like CSS, you can tweak your web interface. I also am using the 2.0.1 version and it works fine. I like it. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: More ebuild failing (install step)
On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This would be a real problem for install, as it would result in the source tree being removed and recreated...obviuosly in an unconfigured and uncompiled state. This is odd, and I'm still looking for the solution... And may be why there is no recent ebuild of samba. Nope. I get the same effect with samba-3.0.23a and samba-3.0.23, both in the portage tree. Looks like the problem comes from the samba-3-gentoo-0.3.14.tar.bz2 archive, which contains an entry for ./ dated from 2005-10-06. This causes the work directory to have that date when the archive is extracted, and confuses ebuild a bit because the distfile now has a more recent date than workdir, so it thinks it needs to recreate workdir. You can work around this problem by running ebuild ... merge, ebuild ... package, or just emerge =net-fs/samba-3.0.23c. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146801 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? No, just remerge the packages that need to be remerged. Then emerge the rest with gcc-4.1 when updates come. If you want to prevent compilation issues, applications crash, ... you may follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide[1] And if you want to prevent compilation issues, applications crash, you'd better not follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide [1] and do not upgrade gcc at all... :-( Sorry for this sarcasm, but I am fighting with gcc-upgrade for more than week. If I knew there would be so many issues, I'd have never started upgrading gcc! Even complete reinstalling using new 2006.1 cd would be much easier... That four line procedure for gcc-upgrade in [1] looks quite simple, but they forgot to mention that finally you will end with not-so-stable system, as before. And that only if you will be lucky enough to reach the end of this upgrade-martyrium... Jarry [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hello
On 9/7/06, Boris Fersing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: x11-themes/gtk-engines-qt works too. Adding a package without keyword will imply unstable host arch (cf manpage) : Ah, ok thanks. I hadn't noticed that...probably because I generally dislike implied behavior. Apologies to A.R. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On 9/7/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant wrote: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? No, just remerge the packages that need to be remerged. Then emerge the rest with gcc-4.1 when updates come. Why do you advise people to ignore the official gcc upgrade documentation and potentially break their systems? Safely performing the gcc upgrade *requires* an emerge -e world. Your system /might/ not break without that, and you are free to take that risk for your systems, but please do *not* recommend that others take on such risks. If you want to tell people your experiences, that's great, but be sure to separate the what is recommended from what worked for me. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I'm upgrading my gcc from 3.x to 4.x. I've done the gcc switching, and now I'm updating my system. The recommended steps are: # emerge -eav system # emerge -eav world While emerging my system I received a message suggesting I run revdep-rebuild: warning - be sure to run revdep-rebuild now My question is, should I run revdep-rebuild right after emerging the system, or should I wait until after I emerge world? My concern was that in between, my system is in an unstable intermediate state, and it might be damaged by a revdep-rebuild in between. Well, you rebuild world, which includes all packages you would rebuild with revdep-rebuild. I would run revdep-rebuild after the rebuild of world, just to be sure. I also recommend to look through the info outputs of every emerge, if you missed something, e.g. I had messages like rebuild against the new library, than it is save to delete the old one. If you miss this, then you have cruft libs on your system. Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] baselayout-1.12 breaks net.lo
On 9/7/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Grant wrote:
I don't seen how these packages can be marked stable.
I switched to baselayout-1.12.4-r7 and it works fine. I did have to
edit some config files because of some changes in the way the networks
are started and such. It was /etc/conf.d/net that I had to edit. May
want to check into that to be sure it is not your problem.
Grant,
I would say posting your /etc/conf.d/net file would be useful. This
would be particularly true if you missed this warning:
if sed -e 's/#.*//' ${ROOT}/etc/conf.d/net 2/dev/null \
| egrep -q
'\(ifconfig|aliases|broadcasts|netmasks|inet6|ipaddr|iproute)_'; then
echo
ewarn You are using deprecated variables in
${ROOT}/etc/conf.d/net
ewarn
ewarn You are advised to review the new
configuration variables as
ewarn found in ${ROOT}/etc/conf.d/net.example
as there is no
ewarn guarantee that they will work in future
versions.
echo
fi
-Richard
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On 9/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm upgrading my gcc from 3.x to 4.x. I've done the gcc switching, and now I'm updating my system. The recommended steps are: # emerge -eav system # emerge -eav world While emerging my system I received a message suggesting I run revdep-rebuild: warning - be sure to run revdep-rebuild now Um, I believe you can ignore this. The emerge -eav world will rebuild all packages...there is nothing that revdep-rebuild will catch that world won't. Now if you want to keep /using/ the system while it is rebuilding, you could do: emerge -eav system # if already complete, don't repeat revdep-rebuild --library libstdc++.so.6 emerge -eav world The revdep-rebuild command will recompile all C++ applications, and will take a damn long time to run. But less time than rebuilding world, and once it completes, your C++ apps should at least be sane. Otherwise you might get ABI conflicts while the world rebuild is going on. Of course, those same C++ apps are going to be rebuilt during the world step...which is kind of lame. There are some tricks you can use to avoid rebuilding things twice...search the archives of this list for ideas. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On Thursday 07 September 2006 23:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm upgrading my gcc from 3.x to 4.x. I've done the gcc switching, and now I'm updating my system. The recommended steps are: # emerge -eav system # emerge -eav world While emerging my system I received a message suggesting I run revdep-rebuild: warning - be sure to run revdep-rebuild now My question is, should I run revdep-rebuild right after emerging the system, or should I wait until after I emerge world? My concern was that in between, my system is in an unstable intermediate state, and it might be damaged by a revdep-rebuild in between. There's no need to run revdep-rebuild, whatever you do it will be redundant. The notices you are seeing are primarily intended for when you explicitly emerge packages that other packages may link to. So everything that might be relevant to the notice you see is going to be recompiled anyway when you run 'emerge -e world'. As previously noted on this list, the mention of using revdep-rebuild as a shortcut when upgrading gcc was intended for the move from 3.3 to 3.4 *only*. The specifics of that upgrade made this shortcut possible, in all other upgrades you definitely don't use it. i.e. the guide is in need of an uodate to make this explicitly clear. If you need more info, ask Richard for the inside dope - he's the resident gcc expert around here :-) alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Running Sybase products on gentoo
Hi all, Anyone here had any luck getting Sybase's products installed and running on gentoo AND nicely integrated into everything else? I need to get at least the free Express edition ASE15 and IQ 12.6 going with ASE support enabled in php5. The sybase-ct USE flag in php5 causes the compile to fail with an error about sybase-ct.h being missing. Changing the USE flag to sybase works, but this is non-optimum as it's the older range of products. I'm not looking so much for answers to specific problems, more a quick summary of how easy/hard/otherwise the process was for anyone who did it already. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On 9/8/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard for the inside dope - he's the resident gcc expert around here :-) :-P -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] driver for Ricoh Aficio FX16
Hello! We have a printer stated in $subject, and looking for a cups driver for it. Does anyone know which driver can we use for it? Thanks, Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing to /usr/local
Many thanks, regards, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for Ricoh Aficio FX16
On 8 Sep, Stefán István wrote: Hello! We have a printer stated in $subject, and looking for a cups driver for it. Does anyone know which driver can we use for it? Just try http://www.ricoh-support.com/enduser/home/default.asp?langID=1 Select multifunctional products and Aficio FX16 This finally to a page where you can download the 'Printer Scanner Drivers and Utility' for WINDOWS. Download the .exe file e.g. for Windows XP. Most probably it's a zip archive. Try (on Linux) unzip -v this .exe file If it works, you only need the .ppd file which is an ASCII file. Copy this to your cups directory probably /etc/cups/ppd IMPORTANT: send a complaint to Ricoh for not supporting Linux directly! Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for Ricoh Aficio FX16
péntek 08 szeptember 2006 12.31 dátummal Helmut Jarausch ezt írta: On 8 Sep, Stefán István wrote: Hello! We have a printer stated in $subject, and looking for a cups driver for it. Does anyone know which driver can we use for it? Just try http://www.ricoh-support.com/enduser/home/default.asp?langID=1 Select multifunctional products and Aficio FX16 This finally to a page where you can download the 'Printer Scanner Drivers and Utility' for WINDOWS. Download the .exe file e.g. for Windows XP. Most probably it's a zip archive. Try (on Linux) unzip -v this .exe file If it works, you only need the .ppd file which is an ASCII file. Copy this to your cups directory probably /etc/cups/ppd IMPORTANT: send a complaint to Ricoh for not supporting Linux directly! Thanks for the help, I downloaded the exe file, but it is not a zip archive, I can't uncompress it. I tried to execute it via wine, then it starts to uncompress itself, but I don't find any .ppd file in the directory where it uncompress itself. Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] installing mono
csütörtök 07 szeptember 2006 08.25 dátummal Richard Fish ezt írta: On 9/6/06, Stefán István [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be good, cause I don't nedd mono at all, so if it is not required for hugin, then I won't struggle to install it. Who can correct this bug? bugs.gentoo.org Can I just simply edit the ebuild and leave out the unneeded dependencies? Yes, then run ebuild path to ebuild digest. If it works you may want to add the modified ebuild to your local portage overlay [1][2] until the bug gets fixed. Be warned that your next --sync will overwrite any changes you make to ebuilds in /usr/portage. I deleted the autopano-sift dependecy from hugin ebuild and now everythings okay. At least it installs and can be executed, I hope it will work correctly without the autopano-sift package. Thanks for thelp, Istvan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for Ricoh Aficio FX16
On Friday 08 September 2006 11:06 pm, Stefán István wrote: Thanks for the help, I downloaded the exe file, but it is not a zip archive, I can't uncompress it. I tried to execute it via wine, then it starts to uncompress itself, but I don't find any .ppd file in the directory where it uncompress itself. Try app-arch/cabextract. A considerable number of windows format installers that aren't .zip archives are .cab instead. I looked at linuxprinting.org and saw '0/3 paperweight' for the FX-10 [1], didn't hold high hopes. Hopefully you have some luck with yours. Thomas Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Ricoh-Afico_FX10 pgpn7YSTjC6U6.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [Timothy A. Holmes] [user] I reply here because I, like others am interested in the responses as well Documentation CONTROL -- configure it the way I want it Great user support Fun challenge Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
How much hardware leeway is safe to accept when using a source 4 tarball for an installation? For example, I have 2 basic models of server one is a gateway pancake server - p4 3.0 ghz HT, about 512m of memory and 500Gb sata drives The other is roughly similar but in a standard case the processor and hdd specs are very close if not identical, but there may be some differences in the boards as these are not specifically server boards TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
And if you want to prevent compilation issues, applications crash, you'd better not follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade Guide [1] and do not upgrade gcc at all... :-( Sorry for this sarcasm, but I am fighting with gcc-upgrade for more than week. If I knew there would be so many issues, I'd have never started upgrading gcc! Even complete reinstalling using new 2006.1 cd would be much easier... That four line procedure for gcc-upgrade in [1] looks quite simple, but they forgot to mention that finally you will end with not-so-stable system, as before. And that only if you will be lucky enough to reach the end of this upgrade-martyrium... Jarry [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml [Timothy A. Holmes] I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: [Timothy A. Holmes] I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 This coming from a person that has a lot of bad luck. I did the gcc upgrade and it seemed to work fine here. I found a script on the forums that seemed to work better than emerge -e world. I had a few packages that failed due to my settings but they after getting the USE flags set correctly, they worked fine. I have changed my profile to 2006.1 while I was at it. Maybe you have something complicated since you are running servers but it seemed to work here. I was amazed that mine went so well. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] driver for Ricoh Aficio FX16
péntek 08 szeptember 2006 13.34 dátummal Thomas Kear ezt írta: On Friday 08 September 2006 11:06 pm, Stefán István wrote: Thanks for the help, I downloaded the exe file, but it is not a zip archive, I can't uncompress it. I tried to execute it via wine, then it starts to uncompress itself, but I don't find any .ppd file in the directory where it uncompress itself. Try app-arch/cabextract. A considerable number of windows format installers that aren't .zip archives are .cab instead. I looked at linuxprinting.org and saw '0/3 paperweight' for the FX-10 [1], didn't hold high hopes. Hopefully you have some luck with yours. Okay, I managed to uncompress it with cabextract, but it does'n contain any ppd file. István -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
Marc Blumentritt wrote: snip I would run revdep-rebuild after the rebuild of world, just to be sure. snip Cheers Marc I did that too. I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again. It did the same thing before the gcc upgrade. If you run it, you may want to post to make sure it is making sense. After three runs, I said forget it. It'll just have to keep. I read somewhere it was a bug. I dunno. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
I would call this discussion Re-installing the system with gcc-4.1 That's what I'm doing now after more than one week of struggle ! ;-) On 9/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy A. Holmes wrote: [Timothy A. Holmes] I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade.Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically.There has GOT to be a better way.Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14This coming from a person that has a lot of bad luck.I did the gccupgrade and it seemed to work fine here.I found a script on the forums that seemed to work better than emerge -e world.I had a few packagesthat failed due to my settings but they after getting the USE flags setcorrectly, they worked fine.I have changed my profile to 2006.1 while I was at it.Maybe you have something complicated since you are running servers butit seemed to work here.I was amazed that mine went so well.Dale:-) :-)-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- /JM
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 install on AMD k-6 ?
On 9/6/06, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the best install CD to use to get this k6-200MHz machine installed? It will not be running X so maybe an older minimal CD is more friendly to oldamd K6? maybe the x86 2006.1 liveCD is not the best choice? Suggestions are most welcome.JamesI have something that may be of help. I did a similar install on a K6-2 500mhz machine and the 2006.x livecds would not work, it would hang at the same point. Fortunately I had some older Gentoo install discs and looked through them until I found one that worked: 2004.1 r3 I think. I'll have to look when I get home. I did some quick searches and couldn't find any ISOs for that disc, so I can make an ISO from the disc (I think it's a minimal install cd) and get it to you somehow. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:40 -0400, Statux wrote: [snip] All responses off list please. Thanks. [snip] Just pointing that one out as 2 people have missed it already :) what about everyone else who might be interested in the answer? I should assume that Chris intends to collect the data and publish it. Although in my opinion he should have mentioned what he will do with it. Mikko -- Mikko Ruuska, R D Solid Information Technology -- http://www.solidtech.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2006.1 install on AMD k-6 ?
On 9/8/06, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did some quick searches and couldn't find any ISOs for that disc, so I can make an ISO from the disc (I think it's a minimal install cd) and get it to you somehow. I didn't look hard enough: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=install-x86-minimal-2004.1.isobtnG=Google+Search I bet the 2004.1 install disc, which google returns some mirrors for, will work. First result should give you what you need. Hope it helps.-- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
On 9/8/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much hardware leeway is safe to accept when using a source 4 tarball for an installation? For example, I have 2 basic models of server one is a gateway pancake server - p4 3.0 ghz HT, about 512m of memory and 500Gb sata drives The other is roughly similar but in a standard case the processor and hdd specs are very close if not identical, but there may be some differences in the boards as these are not specifically server boards If the processor is in the same family (i.e. P4) you can get away with just a few tweaks to your kernel modules (mainly the drivers) and you should be good to go. The only time I can think that this wouldn't work is if the processor family is different (ie. P3 - P4) -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On 9/8/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? Methinks there is just a bit of FUD swirling around. I can't speak to GCC 4.1 (may do it this afternoon) but the last time I did a GCC upgrade (following the documentation) I had absolutely no problems whatsoever. If you are really worried tar up your system as a backup before you start. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. --Douglas Adams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
For me the main problem was an error in 'eselect-compiler' ebuild file. After unmerging the package, /etc/env.d/05compiler file was not deleted. As a result, enviroment variables were invalid. After deleting the file (and 'env-update' and 'source /etc/profile') switching to 4.1.1 was seamless (in accordance with official guide). === On Friday 08 September 2006 18:24, Grant wrote: === I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:37:55 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: For me the main problem was an error in 'eselect-compiler' ebuild file. eselect-compiler is now hard-masked, so that shouldn't be a problem any more. To add some balance, I've upgraded four machines, on three different architectures, to GCC 4.1 without any significant hitches. -- Neil Bothwick Shin - Device for finding furniture in the dark signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
[user] Portage Streamlined installation -- U nstall what U want, exactly what U want ... Did I mention Portage :). ShawnOn 9/8/06, Mikko Ruuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 08 Sep 2006, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 21:40 -0400, Statux wrote: [snip]All responses off list please.Thanks. [snip] Just pointing that one out as 2 people have missed it already :) what about everyone else who might be interested in the answer?I should assume that Chris intends to collect the data and publish it.Although in my opinion he should have mentioned what he will dowith it.Mikko--Mikko Ruuska, R DSolid Information Technology -- http://www.solidtech.com --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- ...to raise a signal means to turn the light on; ... Responding to a signal means turning the light off (and, under System V, hoping thebulb won't blow when it's next turned on)...--- Dan Bernstein
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:25 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild NOT a process I wanna go through again -- believe me!!! -- sadly -- I don't have a choice -- ive already got one machine that wont upgrade until I do it - -im just delaying as long as possible Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
It is masked *now*, but it wasn't masked *before*, and unmerging was not clean. I'm not the only who have lost plenty of time because of this portage error. === On Friday 08 September 2006 18:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: === On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:37:55 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: For me the main problem was an error in 'eselect-compiler' ebuild file. eselect-compiler is now hard-masked, so that shouldn't be a problem any more. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Good one, Jean-Marc! I hope my experience is better than yours. I'm in the middle of this process on a live system, been building since Monday (it's an old 600MHz box) If you can read this email, my system is still running Michael On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Jean-Marc Beaune wrote: I would call this discussion Re-installing the system with gcc-4.1 That's what I'm doing now after more than one week of struggle ! ;-) On 9/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy A. Holmes wrote: [Timothy A. Holmes] I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 This coming from a person that has a lot of bad luck. I did the gcc upgrade and it seemed to work fine here. I found a script on the forums that seemed to work better than emerge -e world. I had a few packages that failed due to my settings but they after getting the USE flags set correctly, they worked fine. I have changed my profile to 2006.1 while I was at it. Maybe you have something complicated since you are running servers but it seemed to work here. I was amazed that mine went so well. Dale : -) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- /JM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
What change did you have to make to CHOST? 386 to 686? or something more complicated? On Fri, 8 Sep 2006, Jean-Marc Beaune wrote: For me, the problem was that I had to change CHOST...then I'll re-install from scratch. But I don't say Gentoo is bad, I say, I am bad at Gentoo ! On 9/8/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:25 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? I am leaving my office in a moment to put the 2006.1 disk in a server to start a fresh build (it's a standby server and I can afford to have it off line for a day or 2) specifically to avoid having to do the gcc4 upgrade. Ive done one so far and it took me 5 days and nearly cost me my laptop -- and I followed the gentoo guide specifically. There has GOT to be a better way. Sadly I cant take each of my servers offline to do upgrade them this way -- some I will have to risk on the GCC upgrade, but for now im avoiding it like the plague. Tim I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild NOT a process I wanna go through again -- believe me!!! -- sadly -- I don't have a choice -- ive already got one machine that wont upgrade until I do it - -im just delaying as long as possible Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- /JM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:26:34 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Honest to $DEITY, my mailer picked the tagline! It is masked *now*, but it wasn't masked *before*, and unmerging was not clean. I'm not the only who have lost plenty of time because of this portage error. Yes, I specified that it's masked NOW. It may have caused you problems in the past (and many others, it's masked for a reason) but it is not a reason to avoid the GGC upgrade now. === On Friday 08 September 2006 18:59, Neil Bothwick wrote: === On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:37:55 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: For me the main problem was an error in 'eselect-compiler' ebuild file. eselect-compiler is now hard-masked, so that shouldn't be a problem any more. -- Neil Bothwick A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 install on AMD k-6 ?
Mark Shields laebshade at gmail.com writes: I did some quick searches and couldn't find any ISOs for that disc, so I can make an ISO from the disc (I think it's a minimal install cd) and get it to you somehow. -em Yes, I think this is the best solution. That way it'll have profile 2006.1 gcc4.1+ and libc2.4+. There are surely going to be folks that want to install old machines for firewalls, dns servers and such where hopefully the gentoo-devs will not abandon the older hardware? If they do, we'll have to migrate to gentoo-embedded (ulibc) or to another distro. If you can put up a bz2 file containing the iso, let me know and I'll download it and give it a shot. I didn't look hard enough: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq= install-x86-minimal-2004.1.isobtnG=Google+Search I bet the 2004.1 install disc, which google returns some mirrors for, will work. First result should give you what you need. Hope it helps.-- - Mark Shields I do not think this will have the 2006.1 profile, gcc 4.1+ gloibc2.4+ etc etc ? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
[Rafael Barrera Oro] [User] I entered the Linux world using SUSE, in time, it began to have humongous circular dependencies problems which drove me crazy. When i discover Gentoo, i found the portage system to be just what i was waiting for, an outstanding feature. Also: Love the G that looks like sorta like a pacman in the Gentoo logo Lots of documentation and support I am a user, but i sure would love to collaborate in some way in the future though -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
I'm agree absolutely, I have switched to 4.1.1 already :-) Probably, it is not a bad idea to add a note about this trap somewhere in the official guide. === On Friday 08 September 2006 20:05, Neil Bothwick wrote: === On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 19:26:34 +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Honest to $DEITY, my mailer picked the tagline! It is masked *now*, but it wasn't masked *before*, and unmerging was not clean. I'm not the only who have lost plenty of time because of this portage error. Yes, I specified that it's masked NOW. It may have caused you problems in the past (and many others, it's masked for a reason) but it is not a reason to avoid the GGC upgrade now. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: 2006.1 install on AMD k-6 ?
Rumen Yotov rumen at qrypto.org writes: I did some quick searches and couldn't find any ISOs for that disc, Hi James, Did you tried passing some ON/OFF options when booting with install-minimal-2006.1 (i mean gentoo acpi=off doscsi etc.) HTH.Rumen Hi Rumen, I used gentoo-nofb for the kernel option but no other (removal) options. OK, I'll give it a whirl, using x86-minimal-2006.1.iso OK, looking at: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.1/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2 Do have you any specific suggestions? acpi=off noload= ? noX ? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache won't start with ssl after OpenSSL upgrade
After upgrading OpenSSL to 0.9.8c my Apache-2.0.58-r2 will not start with SSL. Here is the error message from the startup: Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so: undefined symbol: X509_STORE_CTX_set_depth Any suggestions? -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** pgpkRAAHmYqgv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
User I was attracted to Gentoo because it was different, and I'm attracted to things like that. Coming from a background of Slackware and Redhat, I fell in love with the ease of portage But I strongly believe one of the biggest strengths of Gentoo is this list. I have learned more from reading this list and from implementing suggestions and fixes from this list, than in my entire linux past. Finally, I'm very interested in embedded Linux, and Gentoo embeds wonderfully. I've built a robot running Gentoo out of a CF card, and the Gentoo structure is very well suited to that. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache won't start with ssl after OpenSSL upgrade
Dan Johansson wrote: After upgrading OpenSSL to 0.9.8c my Apache-2.0.58-r2 will not start with SSL. Here is the error message from the startup: Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so: undefined symbol: X509_STORE_CTX_set_depth Any suggestions? emerge apache would be my guess. Probably some incompatibility between 0.9.7j and 0.9.8c which isn't terribly surprising. 0.9.6 to 0.9.7 has similar issues. You should probably do a revdep rebuild around openssl to cover anything else on the system. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
-Original Message- From: kashani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 11:03 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware Timothy A. Holmes wrote: How much hardware leeway is safe to accept when using a source 4 tarball for an installation? For example, I have 2 basic models of server one is a gateway pancake server - p4 3.0 ghz HT, about 512m of memory and 500Gb sata drives The other is roughly similar but in a standard case the processor and hdd specs are very close if not identical, but there may be some differences in the boards as these are not specifically server boards Assuming your CPU's are the same or you're willing to use the lowest common denominator it's mostly a matter of building the drivers for both platforms into your kernel. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] Cool -- that makes life very good indeed -- as far as I know the driver configurations are essentially identical so that out to be easy -- the processors are identical TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:12, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild There is no revdep-rebuild stage in the gcc upgrading guide. Did you mean emerge -e world? Anyhow, it isn't very helpful when you don't say which compiles failed and how. Really leaves us no way to help you or figure out what you did wrong... -- Bo Andresen pgpKKU6fgBWiE.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] package removed from portage question
Hi, Portage wants to downgrade MySQL on my PC. This appears to be due to a revision being removed from portage: lightning ~ # emerge -pvDuN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! SNIP [ebuild UD] dev-db/mysql-4.0.27 [4.1.20] USE=berkdb perl ssl -big-tables -debug -embedded -minimal -raid -srvdir -static 10,895 kB SNIP lightning ~ # eix -I mysql * dev-db/mysql Available versions: !3.23.58-r1 4.0.25-r2 4.0.27 [M]4.1.21 [M]5.0.24-r1 [M]5.1.7_beta Installed: 4.1.20 Homepage:http://www.mysql.com/ Description: A fast, multi-threaded, multi-user SQL database server. However, I don't want it changed right now as the other machines on the network are still running 4.1.20 and I would like them to all stay identical. At least for the short term how can I tell portage not to touch MySQL? (package.provided maybe?) Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Bo: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater The instructions specify to use Revdep-rebuild -- and I quote If you upgrade from gcc 3.3 to 3.4, you have two possibilities on how to upgrade your system. The first method is faster and requires use of the revdep-rebuild tool from package gentoolkit while the second one rebuilds the entire system from scratch so it will make use of new GCC features. It's up to you to decide which of these two ways you will choose. In most cases, the first method is sufficient. This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - I did that rebuild some time back and don't remember what was the problem other than that I want to avoid it again. TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:02 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On Friday 08 September 2006 17:12, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Most of my problems came in the stage of the revdep-rebuild things simply wouldn't build. I finally solved it by un-installing as many of the offending packages as I could, multiple emerge --sync and about 10 attempts at revdep-rebuild There is no revdep-rebuild stage in the gcc upgrading guide. Did you mean emerge -e world? Anyhow, it isn't very helpful when you don't say which compiles failed and how. Really leaves us no way to help you or figure out what you did wrong... -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Cool -- that makes life very good indeed -- as far as I know the driver configurations are essentially identical so that out to be easy -- the processors are identical I've got two sets of hardware, one has LSI scsi cards and e1000. The other has SATA and tg3 network cards. I build a kernel that'll support both and use the same disk layout. Having SATA is nice since everything is still /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda so I don't have to modify anything. BTW how are you building your stage4. We have some inhouse scripts to do it that work fairly well. Are there Gentoo built stage4 tools anywhere? kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache won't start with ssl after OpenSSL upgrade
On Friday 08 September 2006 18:29, Dan Johansson wrote: After upgrading OpenSSL to 0.9.8c my Apache-2.0.58-r2 will not start with SSL. Did you follow those steps? [portage] ebuild log for dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8c WARN: postinst You must re-compile all packages that are linked against OpenSSL 0.9.7 by using revdep-rebuild from gentoolkit: # revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.7 # revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7 After this, you can delete /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 and /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.7 -- Bo Andresen pgpHtDC42AxGh.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware
-Original Message- From: kashani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:14 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using a Stage 4 on similar hardware Timothy A. Holmes wrote: Cool -- that makes life very good indeed -- as far as I know the driver configurations are essentially identical so that out to be easy -- the processors are identical I've got two sets of hardware, one has LSI scsi cards and e1000. The other has SATA and tg3 network cards. I build a kernel that'll support both and use the same disk layout. Having SATA is nice since everything is still /dev/sda rather than /dev/hda so I don't have to modify anything. BTW how are you building your stage4. We have some inhouse scripts to do it that work fairly well. Are there Gentoo built stage4 tools anywhere? kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list [Timothy A. Holmes] I follow the wiki for my stage 4s and they seem to work good Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] portage-2.1.1_rc1-r4: OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy
Hi! All of a sudden, I get the following error when I run emerge: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ Gestoppt sudo emerge -C media-gfx/feh Performing Global Updates: /Gentoo/Portage/tree/profiles/updates/2Q-2006 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.) .='update pass' *='binary update' @='/var/db move' s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*' pTraceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4049, in ? emerge_main() File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3770, in emerge_main portage.global_updates(settings, trees, mtimedb[updates]) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6645, in global_updates myupd) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_update.py, line 198, in update_config_files write_atomic(updating_file, .join(file_contents[x])) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_util.py, line 728, in write_atomic f.close() File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_util.py, line 696, in close os.rename(self.name, self._real_name) OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy Did anyone else notice this? Alexander Skwar -- Give all orders verbally. Never write anything down that might go into a Pearl Harbor File. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package removed from portage question
Mark Knecht wrote: lightning ~ # eix -I mysql * dev-db/mysql Available versions: !3.23.58-r1 4.0.25-r2 4.0.27 [M]4.1.21 [M]5.0.24-r1 [M]5.1.7_beta Installed: 4.1.20 Homepage:http://www.mysql.com/ Description: A fast, multi-threaded, multi-user SQL database server. However, I don't want it changed right now as the other machines on the network are still running 4.1.20 and I would like them to all stay identical. At least for the short term how can I tell portage not to touch MySQL? (package.provided maybe?) That's pretty odd. The Changelog shows 4.1.21 stabilized on Aug 4. 4.1.20 was pulled on Aug 31. My boxes all show 4.1.21 as being valid though I'm actually running 5.0.x on everything. I'd sync again and see if it goes away. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Friday 08 September 2006 19:09, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater [SNIP] This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - That part is for gcc-3.3 - 3.4 ONLY. It is NOT for an upgrade to gcc-4.x or any other gcc upgrade. You were supposed to follow 2. General Upgrade Instructions. Might consider reading [1] too. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html PS: Please stop top-posting. pgpqGXUWBBEZM.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: Bo Ørsted Andresen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:36 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On Friday 08 September 2006 19:09, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater [SNIP] This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - That part is for gcc-3.3 - 3.4 ONLY. It is NOT for an upgrade to gcc-4.x or any other gcc upgrade. You were supposed to follow 2. General Upgrade Instructions. Might consider reading [1] too. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html PS: Please stop top-posting. [Timothy A. Holmes] Sorry bout the top post -- outlook strikes again !!! I'll defiantly read the indicated section Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... Jeremiah 33:3 Jeremiah 29:11 Esther 4:14 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.1.1_rc1-r4: OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi! All of a sudden, I get the following error when I run emerge: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ Gestoppt sudo emerge -C media-gfx/feh Performing Global Updates: /Gentoo/Portage/tree/profiles/updates/2Q-2006 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.) .='update pass' *='binary update' @='/var/db move' s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*' pTraceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4049, in ? emerge_main() File /usr/bin/emerge, line 3770, in emerge_main portage.global_updates(settings, trees, mtimedb[updates]) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6645, in global_updates myupd) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_update.py, line 198, in update_config_files write_atomic(updating_file, .join(file_contents[x])) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_util.py, line 728, in write_atomic f.close() File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_util.py, line 696, in close os.rename(self.name, self._real_name) OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy Did anyone else notice this? Alexander Skwar That appears to be some type of device/filesystem/kernel misbehavior. It happened while portage was attempting to apply package moves to one of the /etc/portage/package.* files. Zac -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFAbUU/ejvha5XGaMRAo1sAKDAUMfxNJPWgD8vxWEYy7RKYjvrywCfafn9 SxrsIxIbEQmH3evQvm+g2EE= =l8ip -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: More ebuild failing (install step)
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like the problem comes from the samba-3-gentoo-0.3.14.tar.bz2 archive, which contains an entry for ./ dated from 2005-10-06. This causes the work directory to have that date when the archive is extracted, and confuses ebuild a bit because the distfile now has a more recent date than workdir, so it thinks it needs to recreate workdir. You can work around this problem by running ebuild ... merge, ebuild ... package, or just emerge =net-fs/samba-3.0.23c. Nice detective work! Running emerge =net-fs/samba-3.0.23c Seems to have produced a clean install. Thanks.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Friday 08 September 2006 20:07, Timothy A. Holmes wrote: The guide that I followed is: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml Under section 3 Upgrading from GCC-3.3 to 3.4 or greater [SNIP] This particular rebuild was going from 3.3 to 4.0 so revdep-rebuild was indicated - That part is for gcc-3.3 - 3.4 ONLY. It is NOT for an upgrade to gcc-4.x or any other gcc upgrade. You were supposed to follow 2. General Upgrade Instructions. Might consider reading [1] too. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html PS: Please stop top-posting. [Timothy A. Holmes] Sorry bout the top post -- outlook strikes again !!! Outlook clearly sucks. Really would be nice if you could configure it differently. Unfortunately I can't tell you how since I haven't used it for years.. Would be appreciated if you could make your signature shorter. Generally it be preceded by a line separate line with: -- and at most 4 lines after that... I'll defiantly read the indicated section I decided to file a bug [1] because the gcc upgrade guide can be a bit confusing if you don't read every letter in it. Of course it turns out I was wrong... :-/ So to summarize: Going from gcc 3.3.x to 3.4.x you should follow [2] or [3]. Going from gcc 3.3.x to 4.1.x you should follow [3]. Going from gcc 3.4.x to 4.1.x you should follow [4]. Unfortunately making the guide more clear doesn't seem to be a trivial task then... :-( [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146857 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml#upgrade-3.3-to-3.4-revdep-rebuild [3] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml#upgrade-3.3-to-3.4-emerge-e [4] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml#doc_chap2 -- Bo Andresen pgpK398ADFnZG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache won't start with ssl after OpenSSL upgrade
On Friday 08 September 2006 18:52, kashani wrote: Dan Johansson wrote: After upgrading OpenSSL to 0.9.8c my Apache-2.0.58-r2 will not start with SSL. Here is the error message from the startup: Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/40_mod_ssl.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_ssl.so: undefined symbol: X509_STORE_CTX_set_depth Any suggestions? emerge apache would be my guess. Probably some incompatibility between 0.9.7j and 0.9.8c which isn't terribly surprising. 0.9.6 to 0.9.7 has similar issues. You should probably do a revdep rebuild around openssl to cover anything else on the system. Re-emergeing apache once more did the trick. Thanks, --Dan -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** pgpl1KCSeTCoH.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Portage complaining when trying to install PHPMyAdmin
Hey All, I was trying to install PHP and a couple other packages when I got the following error: * Checking for required PHP feature(s) ... * Discovered missing USE flag: unicode * * dev-lang/php-5.1.4-r6 needs to be re-installed with all of the following * USE flags enabled: * * pcre session unicode * * as well as any of the following USE flags enabled: * * mysql or mysqli if using dev-lang/php-5 * mysql if using dev-lang/php-4 * !!! ERROR: dev-db/phpmyadmin-2.8.2 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1555: Called dyn_setup ebuild.sh, line 668: Called pkg_setup phpmyadmin-2.8.2.ebuild, line 37: Called die !!! Re-install dev-lang/php-5.1.4-r6 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant. I checked /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and see that unicode is listed, and the other flags ( pcre session mysql and mysqli ), what's causing this? Thanks, Shawn-- ...to raise a signal means to turn the light on; ... Responding to asignal means turning the light off (and, under System V, hoping thebulb won't blow when it's next turned on)... --- Dan Bernstein
[gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
Dale schrieb: Marc Blumentritt wrote: I did that too. I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again. It did the same thing before the gcc upgrade. If you run it, you may want to post to make sure it is making sense. After three runs, I said forget it. It'll just have to keep. I read somewhere it was a bug. I dunno. Did you remove the temporary files of revdep-rebuild from /root? I had no problems with the upgrade and running revdep-rebuild afterward. In fact, revdep-rebuild showed me no package at all to rebuild, which was what I expected. Cheers Marc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On Friday 08 September 2006 15:00, Dale wrote: I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again. It did the same thing before the gcc upgrade. It is bug #125728 [1]? Otherwise if it continues consider posting the output of: # revdep-rebuild -i -- -vp [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728 -- Bo Andresen pgp80mi9wtzxM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
Marc Blumentritt wrote: Dale schrieb: Marc Blumentritt wrote: I did that too. I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again. It did the same thing before the gcc upgrade. If you run it, you may want to post to make sure it is making sense. After three runs, I said forget it. It'll just have to keep. I read somewhere it was a bug. I dunno. Did you remove the temporary files of revdep-rebuild from /root? I had no problems with the upgrade and running revdep-rebuild afterward. In fact, revdep-rebuild showed me no package at all to rebuild, which was what I expected. Cheers Marc I remove those each time. It is sort of a habit now. I run it on occasion especially if I remove something. Just to make sure. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On 9/8/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? There are a few classes of problems here: 1. Packages failing to build with gcc-4.1. Usually the ~arch version of that package will build fine, so you may need to accept ~arch keywords for some packages in package.keywords. This is by far the most common and serious issue. 2. C++ ABI issues. While the system is in the process of being rebuilt, you can have some C++ programs using a different ABI than the libraries they link to, or the libraries can have conflicting ABIs. This should not be a problem once the emerge -e world completes, but can make it difficult to use the system while this is happening. 3. Problems with other packages being blamed on the gcc upgrade. FEX glibc-2.4 is now nptl only, and will no longer work in i386 hosts (must be i586 or better), and probably conflicts with no-nptl profiles, etc. You might want to take a look at the tracker bugs: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140707 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} New CPU for my motherboard
Grant wrote: My main concern is the memory. My motherboad supports PC100 memory as well as a 133fsb although it's not running at that speed now. I'll have to crank it up to 133fsb to support the Tualatin CPU, and I wonder how that will affect the PC-100 memory. Would it be better to buy good Kingston PC-100 memory and hope it can handle the extra speed, That won't work, not reliably. or to buy PC-133 memory for the motherboard that officially supports PC-100. If your motherboard supports FSB at 133 MHz, then it should support PC-133 memory. Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:50 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? On 9/8/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've followed the GCC upgrade guide before without problems, but now I'm scared. Is all the trouble because of how Gentoo works or how GCC works? What is the trouble like? Packages that won't compile, or different things breaking in the system? There are a few classes of problems here: 1. Packages failing to build with gcc-4.1. Usually the ~arch version of that package will build fine, so you may need to accept ~arch keywords for some packages in package.keywords. This is by far the most common and serious issue. 2. C++ ABI issues. While the system is in the process of being rebuilt, you can have some C++ programs using a different ABI than the libraries they link to, or the libraries can have conflicting ABIs. This should not be a problem once the emerge -e world completes, but can make it difficult to use the system while this is happening. 3. Problems with other packages being blamed on the gcc upgrade. FEX glibc-2.4 is now nptl only, and will no longer work in i386 hosts (must be i586 or better), and probably conflicts with no-nptl profiles, etc. You might want to take a look at the tracker bugs: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140707 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117482 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Richard: I have a system that I apparently built using the wrong stage 3 Make.conf has chost as i386 but it's a Pentium 4 box Im just about to start the emerge eav system Should I wait and /or fix something b4 I proceed? TIM Timothy A. Holmes IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher Medina Christian Academy A Higher Standard... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package removed from portage question
On 9/8/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of have a problem with this. Maybe the info is in the change logs? Yes, you really should read the ChangeLog if you want anwers to such questions. Looks like 4.1.21 was stabilized to solve a security bug [1] [2]. up with 4.1.20 I think it must have been marked stable. Why did folks mark it stable and then completely remove it when 4.1.21 came along, but we continue to have older versions like 4.0.27? Versions older than 4.1 are not affected by the security bug, so there was no need to remove them. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200608-09.xml [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142429 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} New CPU for my motherboard
My main concern is the memory. My motherboad supports PC100 memory as well as a 133fsb although it's not running at that speed now. I'll have to crank it up to 133fsb to support the Tualatin CPU, and I wonder how that will affect the PC-100 memory. Would it be better to buy good Kingston PC-100 memory and hope it can handle the extra speed, That won't work, not reliably. or to buy PC-133 memory for the motherboard that officially supports PC-100. If your motherboard supports FSB at 133 MHz, then it should support PC-133 memory. Everything I've read says it (i810E motherboard) supports 66/100/133 fsb and PC-100 memory. I've read that some BIOSes allow you to adjust the memory clock (fsb, fsb+33, fsb-33) but I don't have that option in my BIOS. Could there be a jumper on the motherboard somewhere? If I plug in the new CPU and something goes wrong, is there a way to tell if it's because my PC-100 memory can't handle the 133 fsb or because my motherboard isn't compatible with Tuatalin CPUs? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} New CPU for my motherboard
On Friday 08 September 2006 17:59, Grant wrote: My main concern is the memory. My motherboad supports PC100 memory as well as a 133fsb although it's not running at that speed now. I'll have to crank it up to 133fsb to support the Tualatin CPU, In that case, you should buy as much 133MHz memory you can and install it after you set the jumpers on your MoBo for 133 FSB. The 100MHz RAM will work but drag everything down with it to 100MHz. That said I am not sure if the speed difference is worth the cost of the faster memory. You can google for some vintage hardware reviews to see what's the performance difference. When I looked into upgrading my PIII 600MHz Coppermine, I came to the conclusion that it was cheaper to buy a faster machine from Ebay complete with memory and all. Most of these upgrades make sense if you find a box with a totalled disk, RAM, CPU and use what's working and suitable for your needs. The alternative can be false economy. On the other hand there are IT fairs and back yard sales (depending where you live) where you could pick up a bargain - a mate won't let me forget that he picked up a 2.8GHz P4 from the streets of London two years ago and the only thing wrong with it was a jammed CD in the CDRW drive!!! Lucky guy! Good luck. :-) -- Regards, Mick pgpRJjgcbjdsL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] portage-2.1.1_rc1-r4: OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy
On Friday 08 September 2006 18:37, Alexander Skwar wrote: Hi! All of a sudden, I get the following error when I run emerge: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc $ Gestoppt sudo emerge -C media-gfx/feh Performing Global Updates: /Gentoo/Portage/tree/profiles/updates/2Q-2006 (Could take a couple of minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.) .='update pass' *='binary update' @='/var/db move' s='/var/db SLOT move' S='binary SLOT move' p='update /etc/portage/package.*' pTraceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4049, in ? emerge_main() I'm going from memory here, but when I had this error I recall to have solved it by rsynching and then remerging portage. YMMV. HTH -- Regards, Mick pgpvee6yz2PcP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On 9/8/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a system that I apparently built using the wrong stage 3 Make.conf has chost as i386 but it's a Pentium 4 box Im just about to start the emerge eav system Should I wait and /or fix something b4 I proceed? You'll need to resolve this first, or the glibc update in system will fail. Your options are: 1. mask =sys-libs/glibc-2.4 in /etc/portage/package.mask 2. Change your CHOST to i686-pc-linux-gnu, and then run /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh. This should rebuild your toolchain for the new CHOST, and then you can proceed with the emerge -e system ; emerge -e world steps. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package removed from portage question
On 9/8/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/8/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sort of have a problem with this. Maybe the info is in the change logs? Yes, you really should read the ChangeLog if you want anwers to such questions. Looks like 4.1.21 was stabilized to solve a security bug [1] [2]. up with 4.1.20 I think it must have been marked stable. Why did folks mark it stable and then completely remove it when 4.1.21 came along, but we continue to have older versions like 4.0.27? Versions older than 4.1 are not affected by the security bug, so there was no need to remove them. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/glsa/glsa-200608-09.xml [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142429 -Richard Thanks Richard. I know the Gentoo security focus is important. However it still seems to me that there must be a better way to do this than essentially ripping it out of my system by deleting the ebuild. Making a worldwide security decision seems quite draconian when it's just me, my wife and son watching MythTV. Why can't the ebuild be left on my machine in some location so that the machine remains unaltered until I decide it's worth dealing with? Anyway, thanks for the info. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage complaining when trying to install PHPMyAdmin
On 9/8/06, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was trying to install PHP and a couple other packages when I got the following error: * Checking for required PHP feature(s) ... * Discovered missing USE flag: unicode * * dev-lang/php-5.1.4-r6 needs to be re-installed with all of the following * USE flags enabled: * * pcre session unicode * * as well as any of the following USE flags enabled: * * mysql or mysqli if using dev-lang/php-5 * mysql if using dev-lang/php-4 * [snip] I checked /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc and see that unicode is listed, and the other flags ( pcre session mysql and mysqli ), what's causing this? Well use.desc is just a description of USE flags, not the flags that you actually have turned on. You should read: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2 But basically what you need to do is either: - update /etc/make.conf to add unicode to USE - add dev-lang/php unicode to /etc/portage/package.use I actuall recommend the first, as unicode seems to be one of those things that should be enabled globally. If you have further trouble with this, post the outputs of emerge --info and emerge -pv dev-lang/php. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't Emerge PHP or Apache
On 9/8/06, Shawn Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got portage updated, but when I went to run emerge -uD world I got the following output: emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy sys-kernel/livecd-kernel. (dependency required by media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.11-r1 [ebuild]) Looks like your virtual/alsa setting is screwed up. I don't see how this is possible, unless you have a /etc/portage/profile/virtuals file that defines virtual/alsa to be satisfied by sys-kernel/livecd-kernel. The normal virtual for alsa depends on your profile: carcharias ~ # cd /usr/portage/profiles ; find . -name virtuals | xargs grep alsa ./selinux/2005.1/amd64/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ./selinux/2005.1/alpha/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ./selinux/2004.1/amd64/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ./base/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ./hardened/amd64/virtuals:virtual/alsasys-kernel/hardened-sources ./hardened/ppc/virtuals:virtual/alsasys-kernel/hardened-sources ./default-linux/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ./default-linux/sh/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/sh-sources ./default-linux/mips/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/mips-sources ./default-linux/alpha/no-nptl/2.4/virtuals:virtual/alsa media-sound/alsa-driver ./default-linux/alpha/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ./default-linux/x86/no-nptl/2.4/virtuals:virtual/alsa media-sound/alsa-driver ./default-linux/hppa/virtuals:virtual/alsa sys-kernel/hppa-sources ./embedded/virtuals:virtual/alsamedia-sound/alsa-driver Posting your emerge --info might help us here. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: portage-2.1.1_rc1-r4: OSError: [Errno 16] Device or resource busy
· Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm going from memory here, but when I had this error I recall to have solved it by rsynching and then remerging portage. YMMV. Hi! Thanks for helping! To solve this issue, I removed the portage tree and ran emerge-webrsync followed by a normal sync and all was fine after that. Alexander Skwar -- QOTD: Flash! Flash! I love you! ...but we only have fourteen hours to save the earth! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On 9/8/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checking dynamic linking consistency... broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/bankinfo/de.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la) Since you don't have aqbanking installed anymore, just delete these files, and probably the entire /usr/lib/qabanking directory. Might want to run an equery belongs /usr/lib/aqbanking first just to make sure nothing claims ownership of those files first... broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la) broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires ... I suspect this is the same as aqbanking..no longer installed, so same solution. Equery belongs to be sure... broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.la (requires /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la) broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires /usr/lib/libgcj.la) Definitely bug #125728. I believe comment #29 contains the best workarounds until a fix is actually applied. broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkio.la) ... Here again, equery belongs /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la. If nothing owns it, just remove it. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:22:51 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 9/7/06, Erik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant wrote: Does gcc-4.1 offer enough of an improvement to warrant remerging the whole system? No, just remerge the packages that need to be remerged. Then emerge the rest with gcc-4.1 when updates come. Why do you advise people to ignore the official gcc upgrade documentation and potentially break their systems? Safely performing the gcc upgrade *requires* an emerge -e world. Your system /might/ not break without that, and you are free to take that risk for your systems, but please do *not* recommend that others take on such risks. If you want to tell people your experiences, that's great, but be sure to separate the what is recommended from what worked for me. -Richard I could be entirely wrong on this, but I upgraded from 3.4.6 to 4.1.1 and did not re-emerge system or world. Actually, with all due respect, it is unnecessary to recompile anything other than the programs which depend on libstdc++. One an application is assembled, that's it. Unless you change something dramatic in your make.conf file, such as CHOST, there is no compelling reason to redo the entire system other than for exercising your hard disk and patience. So I did the revdep-rebuild for libstdc++.so.6 and it returned 113 or so ebuilds. One would not compile and needed an ~x86 version. The rest did. Any programs that are emerged in the future will be compiled with the current kernel. IMVHO (or naiive opinion :)), this all you need to do. I've done 3 gcc upgrades and have not emerged anything other than libstdc++ needed. -- Peter + Do not reply to this email, it is a spam trap and not monitored. I can be reached via this list, or via jabber: pete4abw at jabber.org ICQ: 73676357 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 00:22:51 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: of course, I also did glibc! -- Peter + Do not reply to this email, it is a spam trap and not monitored. I can be reached via this list, or via jabber: pete4abw at jabber.org ICQ: 73676357 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package removed from portage question
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:36:57 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: Why can't the ebuild be left on my machine in some location so that the machine remains unaltered until I decide it's worth dealing with? The ebuild is on your machine, in /var/db/pkg/category/package-version/ Copy it to your overlay and portage will stop complaining. Or you could let portage perform the minor update. It's only a revision level change, most likely just a fix for the security issue. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as he crossed the event horizon. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:14:53 -0500, Dale wrote: broken /usr/lib/libqavm.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la) broken /usr/lib/libqavm.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la) broken /usr/lib/libqbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la) broken /usr/lib/libqbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la) [repeated] I unmerged aqbanking. It wouldn't compile and I was not using it anyway. What you think? Bug or me having a setting wrong?? Did you run fix_libtool_files.sh between merging and unmerging aqbanking? This changes .la files, which means that their checksums no longer match the installed versions so portage doesn't remove them. Whether this is a bug in fix_libtool_files.sh or portage is open for discussion. -- Neil Bothwick When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
[user]I use and stay with Gentoo because it is the distro that I started with. I was used to windows before I used Gentoo, let alone linux. Once I got out of the windows way of thinking, then Gentoo and linux just kind of feel a bit natural. I've stayed with Gentoo because I haven't seen a good reason to switch to another one. I like the fact that it doesn't try to appeal to the masses, like Ubuntu, because the way things are done in those distros makes customization more difficult for advanced users. Also they are not as easy to tinker with. Gentoo worked for me when I was new, which was 6 years ago, and it works great for me now that I'm quite familiar with it inside and out.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On 9/8/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be entirely wrong on this, but I upgraded from 3.4.6 to 4.1.1 and did not re-emerge system or world. Actually, with all due respect, it is unnecessary to recompile anything other than the programs which depend on libstdc++. Yeah, I thought this too. And in fact, I also did a revdep-rebuild for the 4.1 upgrade and did not experience any problems between then and the time I eventually did an emerge -e world. But check the archives of this list from around the time when gcc-4.1 hit ~arch, and you will see that that did *not* work for everybody. We learned the hard way that the safe route is emerge -e world. And it isn't just my say-so...the gentoo devs insist ([1] [2]) that the emerge -e world is the only safe option. They don't say these things because they want users to waste a bunch of time... [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html [2] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3541436.html#3541436 -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
BTW, if you want to share your responses on-list, great, but you might want to be sure to CC Chris as well, as he requested responses off-list, indicating he may not read -user. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 15:12:44 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 9/8/06, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could be entirely wrong on this, but I upgraded from 3.4.6 to 4.1.1 and did not re-emerge system or world. Actually, with all due respect, it is unnecessary to recompile anything other than the programs which depend on libstdc++. Yeah, I thought this too. And in fact, I also did a revdep-rebuild for the 4.1 upgrade and did not experience any problems between then and the time I eventually did an emerge -e world. But check the archives of this list from around the time when gcc-4.1 hit ~arch, and you will see that that did *not* work for everybody. We learned the hard way that the safe route is emerge -e world. IIRC there were many problems before the stabilized 4.1.1 gcc. I followed some threads on devel, and it appeared they were very slow and careful wrt this upgrade. For ONCE, I did not complain to myself, Why TF don't they stabilize the darn thing! :) And it isn't just my say-so...the gentoo devs insist ([1] [2]) that the emerge -e world is the only safe option. They don't say these things because they want users to waste a bunch of time... [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html [2] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3541436.html#3541436 -Richard Well, I read different docs and opinions. For my piddly little system, that's a waste of time. I realize that with a source-based distribution, upgrading a core component is a real question mark. Updating a binary distro is as simple as downloading a new set of rpms or tarballs matched to the current gcc and glibc. So, in a way, I can see this as gentoo's way of accomplishing the same. FWIW, I did recompile the kernel and all external modules :)! -- Peter + Do not reply to this email, it is a spam trap and not monitored. I can be reached via this list, or via jabber: pete4abw at jabber.org ICQ: 73676357 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emacs - (I think [the]) Fonts [are] Broken
I can't figure out how to fix this one - NOT for lack of trying, however. I'm slowly trying to become more terminal-friendly and less GUI-dependent. I also keep hearing how Emacs is so cool and powerful and useful and blah. So I decided to try and learn it and see for myself. Installed it on my Kubuntu desktop and it worked fine. On my Gentoo laptop... a whole other story. I have app-editors/emacs v21.4-r4 installed. I don't have xemacs or xemacs-base installed. This is probably applicable, so that's why I'm including it. When I use emacs I see the menus and all things X11, however, the editor shows nothing but those annoying blocks that signify some kind of problem with the font. I tried changing the fontset and stuff, but only succeeded in crashing X twice and then making the boxes smaller or larger and then crashing X. I looked though Portage and by a total miracle found media-fonts/ (was using Kuroo, which organizes things like media/fonts, so I didn't look in media/ for fonts, so I almost missed it). I installed a few fonts that I thought might rectify the situation, however, they didn't. What should I do to fix Emacs? I hear it's a very powerful and useful editor, and I would like to learn to use it (vi and/or its many variants is next on my list, so no emacs vs. vi wars please) so any assistance would be very helpful. Thanks for your time! -- http://lordsauronthegreat.googlepages.com/ pgp860nW8wNrs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [user] I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average user. I was first exposed to Gentoo when someone I know was touting the control that it gave you. I *hate* Gnome (sorry, don't mean to insult any Gnome users - it's just a personal opinion). The bloat of having to have two desktops on my system drove me nuts when I was using Redhat and then, Fedora. So, like others, control is a *big* plus - I can install only what I want! Portage - in my opinion, it is the best package manager in Linux, bar none. In Redhat and Fedora, I was always in some sort of dependency hell. I learned how to get around most of it, but I don't have to worry with Gentoo. I would be royally [EMAIL PROTECTED] off if was force to use a package manager other than portage. Growth - I never edited a configuration file before using Gentoo, nor did I configure a kernel. Strange as it may sound, it was a trip for me to learn this stuff. I've learned more about my system and Linux in the year and a half of using it that I did in the 5 years that I used Redhat/Fedora. Documentation - Bar none, Gentoo has the best and most easily understood online documentation. In fact, I would rather read Gentoo documentation that that of the LDP! This list - I've always been able to turn to the list when I needed help, was exposed to more patience that on any other list that I have every been on - even those that were supposed to be for newbies. I've always gotten help and the explanation was put in a way that I could understand it (Thanks guys!) Sorry, I know this is long, but there are just too many reasons why I use Gentoo and why I will stick with it! :-) Take care, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} New CPU for my motherboard
Grant wrote: I'm going to try a Tualatin P3-1.26 in my i810E motherboard. I did a ton of research and I think my motherboard will support it. It comes down to whether or not it's a revision B board. lspci -v just says (rev 3). eBay has it for $31 shipped and guaranteed not DOA. My main concern is the memory. My motherboad supports PC100 memory as well as a 133fsb although it's not running at that speed now. I'll have to crank it up to 133fsb to support the Tualatin CPU, and I wonder how that will affect the PC-100 memory. Would it be better to buy good Kingston PC-100 memory and hope it can handle the extra speed, or to buy PC-133 memory for the motherboard that officially supports PC-100. One thing that comes to mind is that the Tualatin P3-1.26 is a server cpu and does not work in many desktop boards (I have *heard* that it requires motherboard/memory ECC). If you've done the checking, and the board is suitable then cool. Assuming that is the case :-), I would hunt PC133 memory on ebay - there is a lot of it, and provided the Dell does not require rare or odd DIMM layouts, it should be cheap. Again - check if you need to buy ECC memory due to the choice of cpu (that will make it more expensive!). With respect to the question yeah - but is it worth upgrading? - I think there is plenty of life left in PIII machinery - I run one of these: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/P3/VIA/P3TDDE.cfm and it is just great! Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 06:33:40PM -0500, Colleen Beamer wrote: I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average Well, I *couldn't* be a grandmother, because I am a grandfather who has pretty much no clue what average is. festus -- In all the millions of years dinosaurs roamed this planet, did any of them feel the need to invent, say, nuclear weapons? Mickeyz pgpcX86oj3Cxz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Remerge the system with gcc-4.1?
Michael Crute wrote: Methinks there is just a bit of FUD swirling around. I can't speak to GCC 4.1 (may do it this afternoon) but the last time I did a GCC upgrade (following the documentation) I had absolutely no problems whatsoever. If you are really worried tar up your system as a backup before you start. Yeah - I did this for the first time (gcc 3.4 - 4.1). The documentation is very good - particularly the highlight section that told me to use the general instructions for the 4.1 upgrade. The only issues I had were: - oprofile-0.9 makes world emerge fail (known bug). - after unmerging oprofile, I forgot to add --resume to my 2nd world merge attempt!(sigh). It took about 1 and 1/2 days all up (counting 2 world builds!) on a dual PIII. It is a server, so no Gnome or KDE etc, which I guess made the whole think much easier. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual scsi configuration?
Hello, I'm setting up a web server on a pII 400 MHz system with a dual channel adaptec (ultra) scsi controller. (2) ST-39173W Ultra SCSI Wide drives. If I want maximum/optimized IO performance from these drives what is the best file system to use and drive configuration. (1/2) the swap space on each drive? Raid level? Other methods? EVMS(which I know nothing about)? Any wiki or howto pages would be keen. I know very little about the various high-performance configuration options for multiple scsi drives. I've got 2006.1 liveCD boot up to the drive partioning stage Suggestions are most welcome. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Colleen Beamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Why you use Gentoo Chris White wrote: So, wondering why people use Gentoo. Put [dev] or something if you're an actual gentoo dev and [user] if you're a user. Doesn't need to be fancy, you can put community or something if that's all you want. All responses off list please. Thanks. [user] I'm not, but I *could* be a grandmother, so I guess I'm not the average user. I was first exposed to Gentoo when someone I know was touting the control that it gave you. I *hate* Gnome (sorry, don't mean to insult any Gnome users - it's just a personal opinion). The bloat of having to have two desktops on my system drove me nuts when I was using Redhat and then, Fedora. So, like others, control is a *big* plus - I can install only what I want! Nothing I can really disagree with. I *am* a grandfather, and have been a hardware/firmware engineer for 15 years. I've tried RedHat, SuSe, never could get past old Debian annoying text scripts that just got in the way of what was really important, long live Linux. Gentoo gets down to the technical details of actually installing a new OS as anything in the Linux World...period. Cheers. -- BYoung_AT_Debug1.Com Dual 2.0GHz AMD Opteron...cheers (dual boot 32bit Windows, 64bit Gentoo) ** Quote: *** Portage - in my opinion, it is the best package manager in Linux, bar none. Documentation - Bar none, Gentoo has the best and most easily understood online documentation This list - I've always been able to turn to the list when I needed help, (Thanks guys!) Sorry, I know this is long, but there are just too many reasons why I use Gentoo and why I will stick with it! :-) Take care, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dual scsi configuration?
On Friday 08 September 2006 19:43, James wrote: If I want maximum/optimized IO performance from these drives what is the best file system to use and drive configuration. (1/2) the swap space on each drive? Raid level? Other methods? EVMS(which I know nothing about)? Well what's the workload? Random reads, sequential reads, random writes, sequential writes? All these are important to selecting the best method of getting optimal I/O. There is no one perfect filesystem/raid level for everything. Since you are using only a 400Mhz processor I think that reiser3 may be out of the question. It uses a lot of CPU and gets great performace, but if the processor can't keep up then reiser loses a lot of performance. Also any Device Mapper layers will slow you down a bit. I user LVM and love it, but if I really need maximum raw throughput I'd look to hw RAID or sw based RAID (if my system is up to that). For filesystems it just depends on your needs. If you want high sequential reads/writes then JFS and XFS are particularly good. If you need an all around performer, random reads/writes with good sequential throughput then ext3 and reiser (see above note on reiser). Reiser is also the best at purely random access especially with large directories (1,000s of little files). To be honest if you just go look at the filesystem howtos and filesystem comparisons (use google luke) you won't go wrong. They are all up to the task as long as you know a little bit about what your workload is going to look like. -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Why you use Gentoo
On 9/7/06, Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All responses off list please. Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to them. :-)-- David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Why you use Gentoo
All responses off list please. Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to them. :-) It's even more common sense not to ask for off-list answers to a on-list post... m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: dual scsi configuration?
Zac Slade krakrjak at volumehost.net writes: Well what's the workload? Random reads, sequential reads, random writes, sequential writes? All these are important to selecting the best method of getting optimal I/O. There is no one perfect filesystem/raid level for everything. Hello Zac, A lightly loaded web server should be able to use reiser3. I think the intial setup will be reiser 3 as all of my experiences with Reiser3 have been very positive. No LMV or EVMS Since you are using only a 400Mhz processor I think that reiser3 may be out of the question. It uses a lot of CPU and gets great performace, but if the processor can't keep up then reiser loses a lot of performance. Since the web server will be lightly loaded (maybe 100 hits per day with simple html files, the 400 MHz cpu should be fine. It it starts to get more action than the machine can handle, I'll migrate it up to another machine with more resources Also any Device Mapper layers will slow you down a bit. I user LVM and love it, but if I really need maximum raw throughput I'd look to hw RAID or sw based RAID (if my system is up to that). The Adaptech dual channel controller has a drive on each channel. It's an AHA-3940/UWUWD ATC-7882U . How do I find if this controller does hardware raid and if so, how to set it up under Gentoo? If not, software raid sounds interesting to learn about. If the machine installation turns out poorly, I'll just try it again. It's not controlling critical data, just a learning/fun type of project (I.E. it's a stressless adventure, OK?) For filesystems it just depends on your needs. If you want high sequential reads/writes then JFS and XFS are particularly good. If you need an all around performer, random reads/writes with good sequential throughput then ext3 and reiser (see above note on reiser). Reiser is also the best at purely random access especially with large directories (1,000s of little files). Mostly 'reads' I would suppect from several simple and small web-sties on a machine this is only a web server? To be honest if you just go look at the filesystem howtos and filesystem comparisons (use google luke) you won't go wrong. They are all up to the task as long as you know a little bit about what your workload is going to look like. Reiser3 is my choice. No LVM or EVMS for now. SO I need a howto on setting up raid (hardware if this aforementioned scsi card can to that with Gentoo) ortherwise software raid. Maybe (2) equal size swap partiontions on each drive? Identical partitions on these identical drives? Nothing stressful here, just a chance to set up a slightly diferent gentoo web server, for my home based projects. As the Aussie's say (No worries!) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Why you use Gentoo
b.n. wrote: All responses off list please. Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to them. :-) It's even more common sense not to ask for off-list answers to a on-list post... m. Plus some of us like to read them. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
