Re: [gentoo-user] nautilus 2.16.3 never/always shows backup files

2006-12-12 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Iain Buchanan wrote:

 Looks like you've already done the hard yards in searching bgo.  If you
 can't find the bug, then chances are it doesn't exist there yet.

Yep, seems so.
And since no-one cried out loud on this list, telling me that I missed the 
obvious, it is even more propable that the bugreport didn't yet exist.

 If you make a new bug, and provide the patches and upstream bug links,
 then either it'll be accepted, or marked as a duplicate of the bug you
 couldn't find.  In either case it's worth it to get the problem
 resolved, IMHO.

I did report it yesterday:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157842

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[gentoo-user] Re: DPMS Not Working on i810

2006-12-12 Thread Remy Blank
Randy Barlow wrote:
 DPMS used to work just find on my laptop in X 6.8-7.0, but when I
 upgraded to 7.1, all of a sudden DPMS stopped working.

I've had something similar, where DPMS would work initially, and switch
the screen off after the configured timeout, then switch on again for no
apparent reason after a few minutes and stay on.

What I could find out is that xorg connects to the ACPI daemon and
interprets LID events. In my case (Dell Inspiron 8600 laptop) there are
spurious LID events, e.g. sometimes three closes in a row. This made
xorg switch the screen on, but then not switch it off again.

Anyway, the solution for me was to add:

  Option NoPM

to the ServerFlags section.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem of installing reiser4

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:15:33 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:

 I tried to install reiser4,but it seems failed.
 My kernel is 2.6.19-gentoo-r1.I download  2.6.19-rc1-mm1.bz2,and then
 tar jxvf ,and a file called  2.6.19-rc1-mm1 came out.

This is a patch for the first release candidate of this kernel
version, not the final 2.6.19.

If you want the mm patchset, you could install mm-sources.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - My wife can't lock her screen.

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:29:43 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 catherine ~ # gnome-screensaver
 
 (gnome-screensaver:26789): gnome-screensaver-WARNING **: failed to
 register with the message bus

Have you tried a revdep-rebuild? This could be simmilar to several
failures of other programs I've seen since a dbus upgrade.


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[gentoo-user] rhythmbox

2006-12-12 Thread Kellystewart00


-Original message-
From: 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 
Subject: rhythmbox
Date: 12 Dec 2006
Time: 7:55:46 pm

Hi
  when i start rhythmbox i get the following error device /dev/dspnot found 
now i would assume this means my soundcard is not recognised by rhythmbox?

Can i manually edit the settings as no other players have this issue? 
Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: avoiding pdf print restrictions

2006-12-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 00:02, james wrote:
 James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes:
I need to print a pdf file, that is not cooperative.
  
   pdf2ps yourfile.pdf and try to print the yourfile.ps file... or does
   this command fail ? (pdf protection...).
 
  It worked for the first 4 pages

 Um, I had to grab a copy of the file from /tmp
 then it worked beautifully.

You could also print to pdf (i.e. create a new pdf from the existing) and see 
if that can be printed without restrictions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: wlan0 is sssloooow [100% SOLVED]

2006-12-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 11 December 2006 22:56, Sergio Polini wrote:
 Yes, it was OT and very few of you are interested ;-)
 However, somebody would like to know who the killer was.

 The original subject was wlan0 is ssslw [99% SOLVED] because
 pinging the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router worked from Windows but
 not from Linux.
 The answer is: because Windows sends ICMP messages with 32 bytes of
 data, Linux sends them with 56 bytes of data.
 Moreover, Linux IP datagrams have the DF (don't fragment) bit set,
 Windows ones have not.
 On Linux, ping -s 15 192.168.2.2 works.

I'm very glad you did post this update as here in the office we had this 
very problem three weeks ago. One morning every non-Windows host in our 
building suddenly could not see past the gateway, could not ping it and 
was essentially off-air. We eventually tracked it down to one of these 
Belkin wireless routers, but never figured out why it was doing what it 
did. 

Now we do know, so thanks for the heads-up!

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem of installing reiser4

2006-12-12 Thread Chuanwen Wu

So,you meant I have to install mm-sources,but gentoo-sources?

2006/12/12, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:15:33 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:

 I tried to install reiser4,but it seems failed.
 My kernel is 2.6.19-gentoo-r1.I download  2.6.19-rc1-mm1.bz2,and then
 tar jxvf ,and a file called  2.6.19-rc1-mm1 came out.

This is a patch for the first release candidate of this kernel
version, not the final 2.6.19.

If you want the mm patchset, you could install mm-sources.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem of installing reiser4

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:05:42 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:

 So,you meant I have to install mm-sources,but gentoo-sources?

Yes, install mm-sources and use that instead of gentoo-sources.
alternatively apply only the resier4 patch to gentoo-sources. Trying to
apply the whole mm patchset to gentoo-sources is bound to result in
clashes.

PS: Please do not top-post.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Specifying file size in dvd::rip

2006-12-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 02:28, Thomas Rösner wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  How do you set dvd::rip to end up with a 16:9 aspect avi file taking up
  close to (but no more than) 4.7G?

 It's really pretty unusual to make avis that large. Are you using XviD?
 There is a maximum quality you can achieve with each codec. With 4.7 GB
 target size, you could as well use MPEG2. Or try h264 (wild guess, but
 this is the codec with the best quality in linuxland atm).

Thanks Thomas,

Yes, I am using xvid which is using the h263 quantization method by default.  
Should I choose mpeg instead of h263?

Other codecs offered by dvd::rip are:

vidx4
vidx5
xvid
xvid2
xvid3
xvid4
ffmpeg
fame
af6

xvid is the default codec selection.  I can't find h264 in the transcode 
options.
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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel: pre load a module

2006-12-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:09:00 -0300 Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
   I believe that if I load piix first (the PATA driver for Intel
   chipset) I will not get this delay.
 
  I'm not sure about that.
  Are you sure that it's really ata_piix causing the delay?
 
 Well... I've tried this config:

 CONFIG_IDE=y
 CONFIG_IDE_MAX_HWIFS=4
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
 CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y
 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
 CONFIG_ATA=m
 CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=m
 CONFIG_SATA_INTEL_COMBINED=y

Ahh, I see. So if you were compiling this stuff all into the kernel
(I guess it was like this before, i.e. w/ the 15sec delay), you would
definately create a driver collision which potentially could lead to a
race condition.

But I guess you didn't expect that to happen: It sounds as if you were
assuming that CONFIG_ATA_PIIX only configures SATA support. But since
2.6.19, there's a #define ATA_ENABLE_PATA in include/linux/libata.h.
That leads to PIIX PATA support via the *same* ata_piix driver/module
that is used for SATA support.

 In other words: 
 
 PATA PIIX built-in

it was two times with the old statically compiled version, once via old
IDE layer, once via libata.

 SATA PIIX as module

that's only libata, so no problems with those devices.

 No delay. /dev/sda continues to be /dev/sda. Same for /dev/hda

But you need an initrd. Currently it's still experimental, but I would
suggest at least trying to use libata for all devices. You won't be
able to use the old IDE devices anymore in that case, so make sure that
you have SCSI CDROM and SCSI generic support in order to make use of
your DVD drive.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - My wife can't lock her screen.

2006-12-12 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 03:29, Michael Sullivan wrote:

 When we tried to run gnome-screensaver from the terminal, we get this:

 catherine ~ # gnome-screensaver

 (gnome-screensaver:26789): gnome-screensaver-WARNING **: failed to
 register with the message bus

 Any hints?

For good measure: 

# emerge -uaDv dbus hal

Then: 

# /etc/init.d/dbus start
# /etc/init.d/hald start

Then:

# rc-update -a dbus default
# rc-update -a hald default

Then try again to start xscreensaver.  Reboot to make sure you get no boot 
errors.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] IMAP4 behaviour

2006-12-12 Thread Mick
I have noticed that the bandwidth consumed by an IMAP4 account of mine is 
rather high and I believe this because of the following type of behaviour:

I click to send the message.  The message is uploaded to the server.
I click to sync/receive messages.  The message is uploaded again(!) to the 
server this time in the sent-mail IMAP folder.
I delete the message.
I click to sync/receive messages.  The message is uploaded again(!) to the 
server, this time in the Trash IMAP folder.

Shouldn't it move from one folder to the other on the server instead of it 
being uploaded afresh from my desktop?  It strikes me like a waste of 
bandwidth.  Is this a typical IMAP4 server implementation, or should I be 
having words with my ISP?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] IMAP4 behaviour

2006-12-12 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:30:19 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I have noticed that the bandwidth consumed by an IMAP4 account of
 mine is rather high and I believe this because of the following type
 of behaviour:
 
 I click to send the message.  The message is uploaded to the server.

...by your client. Noone said that you need to put sent messages also
onto an IMAP, i.e. mail storage server. MTA would be enough in order to
send the mail. But you certainly know...

 I click to sync/receive messages.  The message is uploaded again(!)
 to the server this time in the sent-mail IMAP folder.

Uploaded? I would expect it to get downloaded -- at least, if you're
using cached IMAP. Without cached IMAP, I would expect it to download
headers only.

 I delete the message.
 I click to sync/receive messages.  The message is uploaded again(!)
 to the server, this time in the Trash IMAP folder.

Again, I think it's not uploaded but downloaded instead (i.e. from
server to client). Which would be right, because it might get a new UID
on the server.

 Shouldn't it move from one folder to the other on the server instead
 of it being uploaded afresh from my desktop?

for both cases you marked with again(!): yes. But that wouldn't
prevent it from getting downloaded. What makes you think it was
uploaded?

  It strikes me like a waste of bandwidth.  Is this a typical IMAP4
 server implementation, or should I be having words with my ISP?

I rather guess it's cached IMAP, i.e. a client side configuration issue.

For further inspection, I'd recommend installing tcpflow (better suited
for this than tcpdump) and logging communication with the server. You
could even quote from that communication here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] freeradius eap tls issue

2006-12-12 Thread Yiannis Kontekakis
Hello again,

dev-libs/openssl-0.9.8d is currently installed on my system.Also, there
is no libcrypto.so.* library other than /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8.
From my emerge.log I found out that I upgraded from
dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7e-r1 to the current one(see above). I do not
remember whether I run revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.7 and
revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7 after upgrading (but I did
run it now and found no package using this library), so I checked with #
ldd /usr/lib/libeap-1.1.3.so and obtained:

libradius-1.1.3.so = /usr/lib/libradius-1.1.3.so
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/libnsl.so.1
libresolv.so.2 = /lib/libresolv.so.2
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6
libcrypt.so.1 = /lib/libcrypt.so.1
/lib/ld-linux.so.2

I suppose there should also be  /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8  on the above
list but there is not.I am not sure whether it is a bug in freeradius
ebuild and whether I should enter a bug report for it. Does any one have
this implementation working ?
Any other ideas ?

Regards

Yiannis


Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 10 December 2006 22:21, Yiannis Kontekakis wrote:
 I have re-emerged freeradius and openssl(for a different reason) several
 times. Also I have also checked with revdep-rebuild for missing library
 dependencies.
 I think it is not an openssl dependency issue.

 According to the openssl ebuild, after you emerge openssl you will
 need to
 run:

 # revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.6
 # revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.6

 before you can delete /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.6
 and /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6.

 Not sure if this is related to your error.


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[gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Uwe Thiem
Hi folks,

this is for English native speakers (British English, American English and 
colonial English alike).

I was looking up something in my Oxford dictionary. First, I had to make sure 
how they indicate irregular plurals. The first word that came to mind was 
mouse. Look what they write there apart from 1. the animal and 2. a timid 
person:

3. (plural mouses) a small hand-held device for controlling a cursor on a VDU 
screen.

I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use mouses as 
the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford dictionary 
nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 17:38, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 3. (plural mouses) a small hand-held device for controlling a cursor
 on a VDU screen.

 I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use
 mouses as the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the
 Oxford dictionary nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in
 this case?

I have always called them mouses since a friend once found the same 
reference in the Oxford.

Mice are two or more furry rodents that eat cheese and make ladies 
squeal.

But I'm considered extremely odd in most things so I wouldn't be 
surprised if I was just bucking the trend on this as well :-)

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:38:07 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 I was looking up something in my Oxford dictionary. First, I had to
 make sure how they indicate irregular plurals. The first word that came
 to mind was mouse. Look what they write there apart from 1. the animal
 and 2. a timid person:
 
 3. (plural mouses) a small hand-held device for controlling a cursor on
 a VDU screen.
 
 I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use
 mouses as the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford
 dictionary nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

1) You have waaay too much time on your hands :)

2) My OED (2002 edition) says of the computer device (pl also mouses)
   so they consider both mice and mouses to be correct.

3) Bear in mind that a dictionary documents the language as used, not a
   set of rule for using it, so if both plurals are accepted usage, both
   should be included (you are not alone Alan :)

4) One of the main cultural references of my youth called them meeces,
   but the OED doesn't like that one...


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[gentoo-user] (g)mplayer and queue

2006-12-12 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group,

xmms has a cool queue feature; mplayer, not so much.
Did a search and came up with vdr. Since I'm only
playing tunes, was kinda hoping for something with a
smaller footprint. 

Is there some other plugin or...?

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 09:38, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses':
 I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use
 mouses as the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford
 dictionary nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard 
*anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would have 
corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of mouse, 
even when talking about a pointing device.

I'm a native speaker of Southern English, and fairly fluent in American 
English -- heavy British English accents can throw me, but only when 
they are particularly dense w/ British-isms.

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:38:07 +0300, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi folks,

this is for English native speakers (British English, American English  
and

colonial English alike).

I was looking up something in my Oxford dictionary. First, I had to make  
sure

how they indicate irregular plurals. The first word that came to mind was
mouse. Look what they write there apart from 1. the animal and 2. a timid
person:

3. (plural mouses) a small hand-held device for controlling a cursor on  
a VDU

screen.

I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use  
mouses as

the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford dictionary
nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

Uwe



Not being a native speaker, I tried mouses in MS Word, and it insisted  
on mice. However, http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmouses.html  
insists that MS thinks mouses are correct. Another example of undecided  
MS, right?


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Philip Webb
061212 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:38:07 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 I was looking up something in my Oxford dictionary.
 3. (plural mouses) a small hand-held device
 for controlling a cursor on a VDU screen.
 1) You have waaay too much time on your hands :)

It's ok to have a bit of light entertainment during the day (smile).

 2) My OED (2002 edition) says of the computer device (pl also mouses)
so they consider both mice and mouses to be correct.

I don't know where they got 'mouses' from,
but when a native speaker hears the word 'mice',
s/he tends to picture an infestation, ie many more than a countable few,
so there mb grounds for inventing a different plural for the gadgets.

 3) a dictionary documents the language as used,

This may be difficult for German  French natives to grasp,
as their languages have strict rules laid down by authorities
-- leading to bitter disputes re German punctuation in recent years -- ,
but the OED, which is an authority, simply reports how people use English,
incl how they have used it in the past back to its Dark Ages predecessors.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - My wife can't lock her screen. [SOLVED]

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
I just wanted to write in and say how I fixed this in case anyone else
has the same problem.  At the end of the gnome-power-manager merge,
there was a note about requiring pam_console to lock the screen.  I just
rebuild pam with USE=pam_console and it worked fine.


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 12 December 2006 18:24, Neil Bothwick wrote:

  I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use
  mouses as the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford
  dictionary nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

 1) You have waaay too much time on your hands :)

Well, I had to look up the other thing. ;-)


 2) My OED (2002 edition) says of the computer device (pl also mouses)
so they consider both mice and mouses to be correct.

Uh, yours is newer than mine (1994). So I am allowed to call them mice. What a 
relief. 


 3) Bear in mind that a dictionary documents the language as used, not a
set of rule for using it, so if both plurals are accepted usage, both
should be included (you are not alone Alan :)

I always thought of the Oxford dictionary as extremely conservative, i.e. it 
reflects a language in use 30 years ago.

BTW, my spellchecker accepts mouses - of course it can't distinguish what I am 
referring to.

Anyway, thanks for answering (to Alan as well).

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:54:20 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:

  3) a dictionary documents the language as used,  
 
 This may be difficult for German  French natives to grasp,
 as their languages have strict rules laid down by authorities

Which everyone ignores...

You can't enforce rules of language... unless you are my editor :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:20:48 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:

 I always thought of the Oxford dictionary as extremely conservative,
 i.e. it reflects a language in use 30 years ago.

I used to think the same, but it is not so, for example the
2002 edition lists text as a verb.


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Ryan Sims

On 12/12/06, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 12 December 2006 18:24, Neil Bothwick wrote:

  I have never seen anyone (except non-native speakers by mistake) use
  mouses as the plural for a computer mouse. Are the people of the Oxford
  dictionary nuts, or is this really correct and mice wrong in this case?

 1) You have waaay too much time on your hands :)

Well, I had to look up the other thing. ;-)


 2) My OED (2002 edition) says of the computer device (pl also mouses)
so they consider both mice and mouses to be correct.



Might this also be related to the use of mouse as a verb?  I.e.
mouse over the image to see it change,

I mouse
You mouse
He mouses?
We all.mice?


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:05:56 -0500, Ryan Sims wrote:

   2) My OED (2002 edition) says of the computer device (pl also
   mouses) so they consider both mice and mouses to be correct.  
   
 
 Might this also be related to the use of mouse as a verb?  I.e.
 mouse over the image to see it change,

Verbs don't have plurals. The OED does list mouse as a verb, but only as
an activity of cats. I'd never use it like you just did except in
JavaScript :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard 
 *anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would have 
 corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of mouse, 
 even when talking about a pointing device.

In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse), but we 
say mouse, so, the
plural for that is... mouses like in che, anda a buscar unos mouses (hey, 
got get some mouses). :)

Anyway, mouses sounds just fine for me :P

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[gentoo-user] update-eix is running forever

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Svoboda
Hi,

I've been experimenting with overlays a bit. Then I decided to
disable them. Now if I run update-eix it runs like this:

$ update-eix
Reading Portage settings ..
Building database (/var/cache/eix) ..
[0] /usr/portage/ (cache: metadata)
 Reading 100%
[1] /usr/local/portage (cache: none)
 Reading 100%
[2] /usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise (cache: eix* 
[/usr/portage/local/layman/sunrise])

Here update-eix hangs and sits there doing I don't know what
but while at it, taking 99% of my CPU.

I tried to purge every mention of layman and sunrise out of
/etc and some other places too. No success. What could be
wrong?

Thanks,
Robert

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 12 December 2006 18:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

 While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard
 *anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would have
 corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of mouse,
 even when talking about a pointing device.

Taking into account what others said, I guess we have to agree on 
disagreeing. ;-) Actually, that is fine with me. Best thing humanity 
achieved - ever. I am just happy I can continue to call those pointing 
devices mice.

BTW, I am rather surprised by the high number of replies to my OTOTOT post - 
suggesting you all have way too much time on your hands. ;-)

Uwe

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RE: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:21 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard
 *anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would 
 have corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of 
 mouse, even when talking about a pointing device.

In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse),
but we say mouse, so, the plural for that is... mouses like in che,
anda a buscar unos mouses (hey, got get some mouses). :)

Anyway, mouses sounds just fine for me :P

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You guys have no clue how BADLY I needed the entertainment break this
thread has brought - THANK YOU!!

TIM 


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[gentoo-user] Traffic Visualizer

2006-12-12 Thread Timothy A. Holmes
Several years ago I saw a (unfortunatly windows) program that when
pluggined into a network, would allow the user to visualize traffic
across the network.  In that particular program, the network (or
segment) was represented as a circle with hosts around the perimeter and
lines representing traffic, the thicker the line, the more traffic.

Im not hooked on that particular layout, but im looking for something
similar that will allow me to get a grasp of which hosts are generating
traffic and how much (we are seeing some slowdown problems that I need
to try to locate)

Programs in portage are preferable, but if it will run on gentoo without
too much gymnastics, im interested.

Thanks

TIM


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Virtual Caller ID with asterisk?

2006-12-12 Thread noro kamen

2006/12/10, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Sun, 2006-12-10 at 18:49 +0100, noro kamen wrote:
 2006/12/10, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Now that I've got linux recognizing my modem, I was wondering if I could
  somehow set asterisk up to give me caller ID information.  Is this
  possible with asterisk?  My modem is only Fax/Data (no voice), but this
  shouldn't be a problem if all I want is the caller ID, should it?

 which type of line do u have ?
 e.g. classic analog, ISDN, ADSL, VDSL ...

Classic I guess.  My regular caller ID box conked out a couple of months
ago, and as we cannot easily afford a new one, I was hoping I could use
the computer for that...



OK, as Iain answered, if your modem support it, u can read CID from it.
Just connect to modem from minicom and RTFM modem's manual.
The easyiest solution is to buy a specialized box (I bough it for ~10 EUR).

Asterisk can log CID 4u, and/or forward incoming calls to a VoIP phone,
but u'll need a special  * compatible  card, e.g. Digium X100P (obsolete/
sometimes still available on eBay) or another modem card based on MD3200
Cirrus Logic/Ambient chipset, intel 537PG or 537PU chipsets, but keep
away from 537EP, which is unsupported.

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:20:43 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:

 In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse)

As a cordless mouse has no tail, should we call it a hamster? ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic Visualizer

2006-12-12 Thread Ryan Sims

On 12/12/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Several years ago I saw a (unfortunatly windows) program that when
pluggined into a network, would allow the user to visualize traffic
across the network.  In that particular program, the network (or
segment) was represented as a circle with hosts around the perimeter and
lines representing traffic, the thicker the line, the more traffic.

Im not hooked on that particular layout, but im looking for something
similar that will allow me to get a grasp of which hosts are generating
traffic and how much (we are seeing some slowdown problems that I need
to try to locate)

Programs in portage are preferable, but if it will run on gentoo without
too much gymnastics, im interested.

Thanks

TIM


I've seen references to Etherape, which does pretty much what you
describe.  I can't speak for its usefulness in a production
environment, being the merest dilletante ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:20:43 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:

  In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse)

 As a cordless mouse has no tail, should we call it a hamster? ;-)

I propose we rename that thread:
Of mice (mouses ?) and men

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Ryan Sims

On 12/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:20:43 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:

 In Argentina we do not say raton (spanish translation for mouse)

As a cordless mouse has no tail, should we call it a hamster? ;-)



I like it.  What about trackballs?

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 20:12 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
 On 12 December 2006 18:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 
  While language evolution is not a democratic process, I've never heard
  *anyone* use the word mouses for *anything* and if I had I would have
  corrected them by telling them mice is the proper plural of mouse,
  even when talking about a pointing device.
 
 Taking into account what others said, I guess we have to agree on 
 disagreeing. ;-) Actually, that is fine with me. Best thing humanity 
 achieved - ever. I am just happy I can continue to call those pointing 
 devices mice.
 
 BTW, I am rather surprised by the high number of replies to my OTOTOT post - 
 suggesting you all have way too much time on your hands. ;-)
 
 Uwe

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[gentoo-user] Gnome 2.16 and FAM

2006-12-12 Thread Fredrik Tolf
I just noticed that Gnome 2.16 wants Gamin instead of SGI FAM. I don't,
though, since I use NFS and, last I looked, Gamin doesn't support
monitoring NFS exports, unlike SGI FAM.

Does anyone know if it's really necessary to use Gamin instead of SGI
FAM with Gnome 2.16, and, if not, how to make emerge not do that?

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[gentoo-user] OT - How do I make this right?

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
I have sendmail on my box.  I also get hourly logcheck reports.  I see
lots of these:

Dec 12 13:16:58 camille sm-mta[11418]: kBCJGwZ7011418:
ruleset=check_mail, arg1=portage, relay=localhost.localdomain
[127.0.0.1], reject=553 5.5.4 portage... Domain name required for
sender address portage

I have portage in /etc/mail/trusted-users, and I even have an alias
in /etc/mail/aliases pointing mail to portage to  root.  How can I get
rid of these messages and start getting my portage reports?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - How do I make this right?

2006-12-12 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 21:35, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I have sendmail on my box.  I also get hourly logcheck reports.  I see
 lots of these:

 Dec 12 13:16:58 camille sm-mta[11418]: kBCJGwZ7011418:
 ruleset=check_mail, arg1=portage, relay=localhost.localdomain
 [127.0.0.1], reject=553 5.5.4 portage... Domain name required for
 sender address portage

 I have portage in /etc/mail/trusted-users, and I even have an alias
 in /etc/mail/aliases pointing mail to portage to  root.  How can I get
 rid of these messages and start getting my portage reports?

My guess is that you need to set PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM in /etc/make.conf with 
a valid domain name.

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Re: [gentoo-user] almost completely OT: mouses

2006-12-12 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:05 -0500, Ryan Sims wrote:
 Might this also be related to the use of mouse as a verb?  I.e.
 mouse over the image to see it change,
 
 I mouse
 You mouse
 He mouses?
 We all.mice?

Well, that had me laughing quite a bit. However, are you really sure
that the verb would be to mouse over, rather than to mouseover? I
would suspect that the usage of that term as a verb has been grabbed
from maybe JavaScript or some GUI builder tool, and thus should be
verbified as the entire word that it is in its original usage.

Of course, one might consider it normal to seperate prepositions from
verb stems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: wlan0 is sssloooow [100% SOLVED]

2006-12-12 Thread Sergio Polini
Mick:
 On Monday 11 December 2006 20:56, Sergio Polini wrote:
  Yes, it was OT and very few of you are interested ;-)
  However, somebody would like to know who the killer was.
 
  The original subject was wlan0 is ssslw [99% SOLVED]
  because pinging the Belkin F5D7230-4 wireless router worked from
  Windows but not from Linux.
  The answer is: because Windows sends ICMP messages with 32 bytes
  of data, Linux sends them with 56 bytes of data.
  Moreover, Linux IP datagrams have the DF (don't fragment) bit
  set, Windows ones have not.
  On Linux, ping -s 15 192.168.2.2 works.

 How did you ever find this out?!

I used two tools: Douglas Comer, Internetworking with TCP/IP, and 
Wireshark (former ethereal).
I'm still installing my new laptop, f.i., I've not yet setup a 
firewall. My former firewall was based on the Iptables Tutorial by 
Oskar Andreasson, but I didn't understand all the details. So I've 
started studying, i.e. reading Comer and looking at frames, 
datagrams, etc. by Wireshark.
I needed that. For example, I had used nmap to look for an echo port 
on the Belkin router, but ping, i.e. ICMP, doesn't know anything 
about ports!
As to the ping problem, I started a Windows virtual machine by VMware 
Player, then Wireshark both in the Linux real machine and in the 
virtual one, then pinged the Belkin router. Looking at the output 
produced by the Linux Wireshark and by the virtual Windows one, there 
were just two differences: the DF bit, and the data field length in 
the ICMP messages.

 I'll know that's another thing to test when an access point
 is playing up. I wonder why belkin is set up this way.

I think that a router should send ICMP messages such as fragmentation 
needed and DF set (Type 3, , Code 4) and time to live exceeded in 
transit (Type 11, , Code 0), but Belkin does not (traceroute, and 
tracert, 192.168.2.1 print stars).
The Belkin 54G wireless router, F5D7130, had serious security holes:
http://www.governmentsecurity.org/archive/t15618.html
My model, F5D7230, is more secure. Eventually too much ;-)

 Thanks for sharing.  :-)

Alan McKinnon:
 I'm very glad you did post this update as here in the office we had
 this very problem three weeks ago. One morning every non-Windows
 host in our building suddenly could not see past the gateway, could
 not ping it and was essentially off-air. We eventually tracked it
 down to one of these Belkin wireless routers, but never figured out
 why it was doing what it did.

 Now we do know, so thanks for the heads-up!

I must thank all of you. Gentoo would not be such an attractive system 
without the continuous support by all of you.

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[gentoo-user] Static ip address

2006-12-12 Thread Felipe Ribeiro

Did they change anything on how you configure your static ip address?
I've updated my system today and connot access the internet anymore,
when using my static ip address, just dhcp.

I used to use my /etc/conf.d/net like this:

config_eth0=(192.168.254.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.254.255)
routes_eth0=(default via 192.168.254.254)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Static ip address

2006-12-12 Thread Bruno Santos




Felipe Ribeiro wrote:
Did they change anything on how you configure your static
ip address?
  
I've updated my system today and connot access the internet anymore,
  
when using my static ip address, just dhcp.
  
  
I used to use my /etc/conf.d/net like this:
  
  
config_eth0=("192.168.254.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
192.168.254.255")
  
routes_eth0=("default via 192.168.254.254")
  
  
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what about your /etc/resolv.conf ???
does it have the right nameserver ??

has i've seen in /etc/conf.d/net.example, you need to expecify more
options for /etc/resolv.conf reflet yout new reality (they are not
needed)
dns_domain_eth0="domain"
dns_servers_eth0="xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy"

the options above are not needed, but they help !

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Re: [gentoo-user] Static ip address

2006-12-12 Thread Felipe Ribeiro

  what about your /etc/resolv.conf ???
 does it have the right nameserver ??

 has i've seen in /etc/conf.d/net.example, you need to expecify more options 
for /etc/resolv.conf reflet yout new reality (they are not needed)
 dns_domain_eth0=domain
 dns_servers_eth0=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy

 the options above are not needed, but they help !


resolv.conf is ok, it was working fine until i've updated my system.

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[gentoo-user] Problem with ARTEC T1

2006-12-12 Thread martin nicolas

Hi, when I try to scan channels with dvbscan I get the following :

localhost nico # dvbscan fr-Paris
scanning fr-Paris
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
initial transponder 47400 0 2 9 3 1 0 0
initial transponder 49800 0 2 9 3 1 0 0
initial transponder 52200 0 2 9 3 1 0 0
initial transponder 56200 0 2 9 3 1 0 0
initial transponder 58600 0 3 9 3 1 2 0

tune to:

47400:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:FEC_2_3:FEC_AUTO:QAM_64:TRANSMISSION_MODE_8K:GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:HIERARCHY_NONE
WARNING:  tuning failed!!!
. . .
. . .
. . .
ERROR: initial tuning failed
dumping lists (0 services)
Done.

And here is the output of dmesg when I plug the box :

dvb-usb: found a 'Artec T1 USB1.1 TVBOX with AN2235 (faulty USB IDs)' in
cold state, will try to load a firmware
dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-dibusb-an2235-01.fw'
usbcore: registered new driver dvb_usb_dibusb_mb
usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 2
dvb-usb: generic DVB-USB module successfully deinitialized and disconnected.
usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
dvb-usb: found a 'DiBcom USB1.1 DVB-T reference design (MOD3000)' in warm
state.dvb-usb: will use the device's hardware PID filter (table count: 16).
DVB: registering new adapter (DiBcom USB1.1 DVB-T reference design
(MOD3000)).
DVB: registering frontend 0 (DiBcom 3000M-B DVB-T)...
dibusb: This device has the Thomson Cable onboard. Which is default.
input: IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver as /class/input/input4
dvb-usb: schedule remote query interval to 150 msecs.
dvb-usb: DiBcom USB1.1 DVB-T reference design (MOD3000) successfully
initialized and connected.


All were all right where the older versions of the kernel (2.6.15), now  I'm
in 2.6.18-r4.


My configuration is the following :

Linux localhost 2.6.18-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Thu Dec 7 22:38:23 CET 2006 i686
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

I've search on the web but found nothing working.

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[gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
Can anyone give me a simple easy-to-understand place to start for
setting up Asterisk?  All I want it for is for Caller ID and to drop
calls from certain phone numbers.  I have a US Robots data/fax modem.
Asterisk is running (as evidenced by ps ax) and the phone line is
plugged into the computer.  I know this is correct because I can dial
out with kppp.  Someone suggested that I look at my modem's manual for
how to do this; my modem did not come with a manual, and I am not at all
hardware-savvy.  Others have written back and suggested alternate
hardware.  My wife and I have $25.00USD to last us the rest of the
month, It's like this every month, so I can't exactly buy new hardware.
I have to work with what we have.  I called our home number (the number
whose phone line is plugged into my computer) from my cell phone while
sitting at the asterisk CLI command console.  I heard the phone ring on
the other extension, so I typed 'answer'.  Asterisk came back with No
one is calling us  Meanwhile the phone was still ringing.  I've googled
for asterisk tutorials, but I can't seem to find anything that's basic
enough for me to understand.  Please help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: avoiding pdf print restrictions

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Rösner

james wrote:



It worked for the first 4 pages



Um, I had to grab a copy of the file from /tmp
then it worked beautifully.
  


Hehe. You had no print restrictions, you had a half-downloaded PDF...

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Specifying file size in dvd::rip

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Rösner

Mick wrote:

On Tuesday 12 December 2006 02:28, Thomas Rösner wrote:
  

Mick wrote:


How do you set dvd::rip to end up with a 16:9 aspect avi file taking up
close to (but no more than) 4.7G?
  

It's really pretty unusual to make avis that large. Are you using XviD?
There is a maximum quality you can achieve with each codec. With 4.7 GB
target size, you could as well use MPEG2. Or try h264 (wild guess, but
this is the codec with the best quality in linuxland atm).



Thanks Thomas,

Yes, I am using xvid which is using the h263 quantization method by default.  
Should I choose mpeg instead of h263?
  


Without going into too much detail, that's something different. XviD is 
a dialect of MPEG-4. H.264 is a different, newer standard. MPEG-2 is yet 
another standard used on DVD's (=ooold ;-)). Hardware players can do 
MPEG-2, some can do DivX/some parts of MPEG-4 and XviD if you are 
careful not to enable the advanced coding options. I know of none doing 
H.264.


Then there are containers: mp2 (only mpeg2), mp4 (only mpeg4), avi 
(anything, but limited), ogg (anything), mkv (anything and more, not in 
DVD::Rip last time I checked).


If you don't care about HW players, you might find ogg a better 
container format then avi (uses less space, audio/video don't get out of 
sync as easily, multiple Audio tracks/subtitels supported...).


Hm, or stay with avi, I don't want to confuse you. All of this is a bit 
of voodoo. :)


xvid is the default codec selection.  I can't find h264 in the transcode 
options.
  


ffmpeg does, it's a library providing different codecs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.16 and FAM

2006-12-12 Thread Thomas Rösner

Fredrik Tolf wrote:

I just noticed that Gnome 2.16 wants Gamin instead of SGI FAM. I don't,
though, since I use NFS and, last I looked, Gamin doesn't support
monitoring NFS exports, unlike SGI FAM.
  


AFAIK it polls.


Does anyone know if it's really necessary to use Gamin instead of SGI
FAM with Gnome 2.16, and, if not, how to make emerge not do that?
  


gnome-base/gnome/gnome-2.16.1.ebuild doesnt dep on either of them, and 
contains:


einfo To take full advantage of GNOME's functionality, please emerge
einfo gamin, a File Alteration Monitor.
einfo Make sure you have inotify enabled in your kernel ( =2.6.13 )
einfo
einfo Make sure you rc-update del famd and emerge unmerge fam if you
einfo are switching from fam to gamin.
einfo
einfo If you have problems, you may want to try using fam instead.


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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel: pre load a module

2006-12-12 Thread Norberto Bensa
Hello Hans,

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Hi,

 On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:09:00 -0300 Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
I believe that if I load piix first (the PATA driver for Intel
chipset) I will not get this delay.
  
   I'm not sure about that.
   Are you sure that it's really ata_piix causing the delay?
 
  Well... I've tried this config:
 
  CONFIG_IDE=y
  CONFIG_IDE_MAX_HWIFS=4
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
  CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=y
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
  CONFIG_ATA=m
  CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=m
  CONFIG_SATA_INTEL_COMBINED=y

 Ahh, I see. So if you were compiling this stuff all into the kernel
 (I guess it was like this before, i.e. w/ the 15sec delay), 

Nope. As modules. I use genkernel.


 But I guess you didn't expect that to happen: It sounds as if you were
 assuming that CONFIG_ATA_PIIX only configures SATA support. 

Nope. I knew 2.6.19 handles PATA too. I didn't expect the ~15secs delay.


  In other words:
 
  PATA PIIX built-in

 it was two times with the old statically compiled version, once via old
 IDE layer, once via libata.

Nope. As I said, everything was modules.



  No delay. /dev/sda continues to be /dev/sda. Same for /dev/hda

 But you need an initrd.

Yup. That's how I like it :)


 Currently it's still experimental, but I would 
 suggest at least trying to use libata for all devices. 

I've tried. But I get a ~15secs delay loading ata_piix.


Best regards,
Norberto


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 04:34:46 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 Can anyone give me a simple easy-to-understand place to start for
 setting up Asterisk?  All I want it for is for Caller ID and to drop
 calls from certain phone numbers.  I have a US Robots data/fax modem.

Start here.

http://voipspeak.net/images/stories/orielly/AsteriskTFOT.zip

Read the first few chapters or so.  Set aside having the answer Right
Now and devote some time to theory and concepts.  The asterisk dialplan
configuration is a little difficult to understand at first, at least it
was for me.  You can email me with any questions if you want or try
various means of the asterisk community.  Both the official irc channel

irc://irc.freenode.net/#asterisk

and mailing list

http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users

are very active and usually helpful.

From your account I can't tell whether you have a softphone installed.
I recommend iaxcomm, but unfortunately I can't get 

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81393

to work because it wants the entire 152 Mib iaxclient svn repo for just
one 2.2 Mib application and because of a couple of other bugs in the
ebuild.  You may also try kiax which is what I've been using until I get
around to making iaxcomm work.  Kphone might also work for you too.

How is asterisk communicating with your modem card?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:04 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 04:34:46 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  Can anyone give me a simple easy-to-understand place to start for
  setting up Asterisk?  All I want it for is for Caller ID and to drop
  calls from certain phone numbers.  I have a US Robots data/fax modem.
 
 Start here.
 
 http://voipspeak.net/images/stories/orielly/AsteriskTFOT.zip
 
 Read the first few chapters or so.  Set aside having the answer Right
 Now and devote some time to theory and concepts.  The asterisk dialplan
 configuration is a little difficult to understand at first, at least it
 was for me.  You can email me with any questions if you want or try
 various means of the asterisk community.  Both the official irc channel
 
 irc://irc.freenode.net/#asterisk
 
 and mailing list
 
 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
 
 are very active and usually helpful.
 
 From your account I can't tell whether you have a softphone installed.
 I recommend iaxcomm, but unfortunately I can't get 
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81393
 
 to work because it wants the entire 152 Mib iaxclient svn repo for just
 one 2.2 Mib application and because of a couple of other bugs in the
 ebuild.  You may also try kiax which is what I've been using until I get
 around to making iaxcomm work.  Kphone might also work for you too.
 
 How is asterisk communicating with your modem card?
 
 
 Justin

I don't think it is communicating with my network card.  Is there a way
I can test that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 06:11:34 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I don't think it is communicating with my network card.  Is there a way
 I can test that?

I guess you would start searching documentation on modem.conf.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:20 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 06:11:34 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I don't think it is communicating with my network card.  Is there a way
  I can test that?
 
 I guess you would start searching documentation on modem.conf.
 
 
 Justin

I have the following setting in modem.conf I've removed the comments for
conciseness:

[interfaces]
context=remote
language=en
type=autodetect
stripmsd=0
dialtype=tone
mode=ring
group=1 

I have no idea what all this is supposed to mean.  I tried device
= /dev/modem, restarting asterisk, and calling in from my cell phone,
but it still didn't work.  I tried opening the asterisk command console
and then typing dial and then answer while the phone was ringing, but it
just did what it always does:

camille*CLI dial
  Console call has been answered  
camille*CLI answer
Dec 12 18:54:43 NOTICE[14699]: app_mp3.c:111 timed_read: Poll timed
out/errored out with 0
  Hangup on console  



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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:04 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 04:34:46 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  Can anyone give me a simple easy-to-understand place to start for
  setting up Asterisk?  All I want it for is for Caller ID and to drop
  calls from certain phone numbers.  I have a US Robots data/fax modem.
 
 Start here.
 
 http://voipspeak.net/images/stories/orielly/AsteriskTFOT.zip
 
 Read the first few chapters or so.  Set aside having the answer Right
 Now and devote some time to theory and concepts.  The asterisk dialplan
 configuration is a little difficult to understand at first, at least it
 was for me.  You can email me with any questions if you want or try
 various means of the asterisk community.  Both the official irc channel
 
 irc://irc.freenode.net/#asterisk
 
 and mailing list
 
 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
 
 are very active and usually helpful.
 
 From your account I can't tell whether you have a softphone installed.
 I recommend iaxcomm, but unfortunately I can't get 
 
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81393
 
 to work because it wants the entire 152 Mib iaxclient svn repo for just
 one 2.2 Mib application and because of a couple of other bugs in the
 ebuild.  You may also try kiax which is what I've been using until I get
 around to making iaxcomm work.  Kphone might also work for you too.
 
 How is asterisk communicating with your modem card?
 
 
 Justin

kiax is a bust until I get asterisk to play nice with my modem.  I tried
to call my home number.  kiax claimed to be calling, but I could hear a
dial tone on my wife's cordless at the same time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Static ip address

2006-12-12 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 16:15, Felipe Ribeiro wrote:

 Did they change anything on how you configure your static ip address?
 I've updated my system today and connot access the internet anymore,
 when using my static ip address, just dhcp.

 I used to use my /etc/conf.d/net like this:

 config_eth0=(192.168.254.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast
 192.168.254.255) routes_eth0=(default via 192.168.254.254)


Yes! Much has changed in baselayout... The more recent versions 
rewrite /etc/resolv.conf with the data you spec in /etc/conf.d/net

Here's a simple /etc/conf.d/net file I have set for a client on my home lan:

modules=(ifconfig)
config_eth0=(192.168.0.12 netmask 25.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255)
routes_eth0=(default via 192.168.0.1)
dns_domain_eth0=(my.domain)
dns_search_eth0=(search hs.ma.comcast.net.)
dns_servers_eth0=(68.87.75.255 68.87.64.255)


Cheers...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.16 and FAM

2006-12-12 Thread Fredrik Tolf
On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 00:09 +0100, Thomas Rösner wrote:
 Fredrik Tolf wrote:
  Does anyone know if it's really necessary to use Gamin instead of SGI
  FAM with Gnome 2.16, and, if not, how to make emerge not do that?   
 
 gnome-base/gnome/gnome-2.16.1.ebuild doesnt dep on either of them, and 
 contains:
 [...]

Indeed, the gnome ebuild itself does not depend on gamin, but it seems
that with the ldap USE flag, it depends on sabayon, and sabayon depends
on gamin. Why Sabayon would be related to LDAP, I have no idea
whatsoever. I guess this means that I can just remove the ldap USE flag
from gnome and it will work, though.

Furthermore, it seems that Ekiga is only dep'd with USE=ldap as well.
Has anyone an idea why?

Fredrik Tolf


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Re: [gentoo-user] Traffic Visualizer

2006-12-12 Thread Quag7
On Tuesday 12 December 2006 12:11 pm, Ryan Sims wrote:
 On 12/12/06, Timothy A. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Several years ago I saw a (unfortunatly windows) program that when
  pluggined into a network, would allow the user to visualize traffic
  across the network.  In that particular program, the network (or
  segment) was represented as a circle with hosts around the perimeter and
  lines representing traffic, the thicker the line, the more traffic.

 I've seen references to Etherape, which does pretty much what you
 describe.  I can't speak for its usefulness in a production
 environment, being the merest dilletante ;)

I run Etherape here.  It is an interesting program to watch, especially when 
you connect to very popular torrents.  Now I run this on my home router, 
which is not a very powerful machine.  Over the course of several days, the 
application slows down to the point that it's taking up quite a lot of CPU 
time and I have to kill X from a ssh session.  The author swears there are no 
memory leaks, but on my system, Etherape has a few problems when left up for 
several days.  My router runs Debian though (because it's an old machine).

http://quag7.dynip.com:8063/wwwswamp/2005-Jul-18__02.28AM_Debian_Linux--Kernel_v2.6.9.20050505c-.jpg

Note the CPU meter on the top - it's the blue one on the left in the system 
monitor.  Nothing else of any consequence is running, so all of that load is 
from that version of Etherape.  Maybe it's been patched since then?  

I was connected to a p2p network of some sort on another system at the time, 
which is why it is so chaotic.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 17:04 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 04:34:46 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  Can anyone give me a simple easy-to-understand place to start for
  setting up Asterisk?  All I want it for is for Caller ID and to drop
  calls from certain phone numbers.  I have a US Robots data/fax modem.
 
 Start here.
 
 http://voipspeak.net/images/stories/orielly/AsteriskTFOT.zip
 
 Read the first few chapters or so.  Set aside having the answer Right
 Now and devote some time to theory and concepts.  The asterisk dialplan
 configuration is a little difficult to understand at first, at least it
 was for me.  You can email me with any questions if you want or try
 various means of the asterisk community.  Both the official irc channel
 
 irc://irc.freenode.net/#asterisk
 
 and mailing list
 
 http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
 
 are very active and usually helpful.

I'm trying to follow the pdf in the link you sent me.  On page 79 it
lists some stuff to add to /etc/zaptel.conf (I emerged zaptel):

The zaptel.conf file located in /etc/ is used to configure your
hardware. The following minimal configuration defines an FXO port with
FXS signaling:

   fxsks=2
   loadzone=us
   defaultzone=us

After configuring zaptel.conf, you can load the drivers for the card.
modprobe is used to load modules for use by the Linux kernel. For
example, to load the wctdm driver, you would run:
 # modprobe wctdm

If the drivers load without any output, they have loaded successfully.*
You can verify that the hardware and ports were loaded and configured
correctly with the use of the ztcfg program:
 # /sbin/ztcfg –vv
The channels that are configured and the signaling method being used
will be dis-
played. For example, a TDM400P with one FXO module has the following
output:
 Zaptel Configuration
 ==
 Channel map:
 Channel 02: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 02)
 1 channels configured.
If you receive the following error, you have configured the channel for
the wrong sig-naling method:
 ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 2: Invalid argument (22)
 Did you forget that FXS interfaces are configured with FXO
signalling
 and that FXO interfaces use FXS signalling?

However, I get this:

camille ~ # /sbin/ztcfg -vv

Zaptel Configuration
==


Channel map:

Channel 02: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 02)

1 channels configured.

ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 2: No such device or address (6)

I have no idea what it's talking about, or even what device or address
it's trying to find...




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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 08:51:28 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 After configuring zaptel.conf, you can load the drivers for the card.
 modprobe is used to load modules for use by the Linux kernel. For
 example, to load the wctdm driver, you would run:

zaptel.conf is for Digium branded telephony cards which it sounds like
you don't have.

The first thing I'd do is find out what kind of modem card you have and
if asterisk supports it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Need more help with Asterisk

2006-12-12 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 20:13 -0700, Justin Findlay wrote:
 On AD 2006 December 12 Tuesday 08:51:28 PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  After configuring zaptel.conf, you can load the drivers for the card.
  modprobe is used to load modules for use by the Linux kernel. For
  example, to load the wctdm driver, you would run:
 
 zaptel.conf is for Digium branded telephony cards which it sounds like
 you don't have.
 
 The first thing I'd do is find out what kind of modem card you have and
 if asterisk supports it.
 
 
 Justin

I have a US ROBOTICS 56K V.90 DATA/FAX SOFT MODEM - PCI.  Why wouldn't
asterisk support it?  All I want is caller ID and optionally call
dropping based on the phone number...

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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP and deny clients

2006-12-12 Thread Jigme Datse
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 On 12/11/06, *Neil Bothwick* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:39:14 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  I have a gentoo server and a laptop both running dhcp (server) at
 home.
  the server serves clients at home.
  the laptop, serves client at NON-home places.
 
  when I plug my laptop into the home, clients will get to my laptop's
  dhcp server instead of the home server's dhcp.
 
 You could use the postup(0 function in /etc/conf.d/net to shutdown the
 DHCP server if you are connected to the home network.
 
 
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 Windows - software package to turn a 486 into an Etch-A-Sketch!
 
 
 Maybe this helps: (from dhcpd.conf.sample )
 # If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
 # network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
 authoritative;
 
 I think this one schould prefer your local dhcp to the clients at home
 instead of using your notebook.
 correct me if I'm wrong.

It can mean long time outs if the client requests an address that is not
in the pool.  I know I had problems with this, but I think that this
would work for you provided you have everything else set up correctly.

Jigme Datse
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Re: [gentoo-user] turning off irrelevant mplayer errorFIXED?

2006-12-12 Thread maxim wexler
 So did you set ao=alsa in /etc/mlayer.conf
 (~/.mplayer/config should work 
 too)?
 
 
No, I uncommented ao=sdl:esd. So now I've set
ao=alsa and that's a definite improvement. Both gui
and command line work OK. Thanks Bo.

I note the mplayer man page is 6700 lines long. Is
there something out there less cumbersome? $info
mplayer is the same.

-Maxim


 

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem of installing reiser4

2006-12-12 Thread Chuanwen Wu

2006/12/12, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:05:42 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:

Yes, install mm-sources and use that instead of gentoo-sources.
alternatively apply only the resier4 patch to gentoo-sources. Trying to
apply the whole mm patchset to gentoo-sources is bound to result in
clashes.

I have install reiser4 with the kernel 2.6.18.This is my ebuild:

# copyright 1999-2006 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: reiser4-sources-2.6.18.ebuild, 2006/12/12 $

ETYPE=sources
K_WANT_GENPATCHES=base extras
K_GENPATCHES_VER=4
R4V=-3

inherit eutils kernel-2
detect_version
detect_arch

KEYWORDS=~amd64 ~x86
HOMEPAGE=http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/genpatches
http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html;

DESCRIPTION=Full sources including the gentoo patchset, Software Suspend 2 and
the Reiser4 patchset

UNIPATCH_LIST=${DISTDIR}/reiser4-for-${PV}${R4V}.patch.gz
UNIPATCH_STRICTORDER=yes

SRC_URI=${KERNEL_URI} ${GENPATCHES_URI} ${ARCH_URI}
ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-${KV_MAJOR}.${KV_MINOR}/${PV}/reiser4-for-${PV}${R4V}.patch.gz;

pkg_postinst() {
postinst_sources

echo

einfo For more info on this patchset, and how to report problems, see:
einfo ${HOMEPAGE}
}

I do not use the mm-kernel,cause I heard about this kernel is not so stable.


PS: Please do not top-post.

I'm sorry but what does top-post means?


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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?






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Re: [gentoo-user] problem of installing reiser4

2006-12-12 Thread Dale
Chuanwen Wu wrote:
 2006/12/12, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


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 A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
 Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
 A: Top-posting.
 Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?






subtle Neil but very effective.

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