Re: [gentoo-user] php-5.1.6-r6 troubles

2007-01-21 Thread Daniel Iliev
James wrote:
 Hello,

 Trying to run a routine upgrade I get this error:

 hecking for Informix support... no
 checking for InterBase support... yes
 checking for isc_detach_database in -lfbclient... no
 checking for isc_detach_database in -lgds... no
 checking for isc_detach_database in -lib_util... no
 configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check 
 config.log
 for more information.

 !!! ERROR: dev-lang/php-5.1.6-r6 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1546:   Called dyn_compile
   ebuild.sh, line 937:   Called src_compile
   php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 173:   Called src_compile_normal
   php-5.1.6-r6.ebuild, line 323:   Called php5_1-sapi_src_compile
   php5_1-sapi.eclass, line 576:   Called die

 !!! configure failed


 I looked in this file for clues, but found nothing:
 /var/tmp/portage/php-5.1.6-r6/work/php-5.1.6/config.log

 But found nothing that looked like a problem (at least to me).

 So all I have to go on is this line (repeated from above):

 configure: error: libgds, libib_util or libfbclient not found! Check 
 config.log
 for more information.

 Any words of wisdom on how to fix this?


 James

   

Send the output from emerge -pv dev-lang/php in order to expose the
USE flags which are enabled/disabled for php on your system.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Do Debian's 2.6.18 problems exist in gentoo?

2007-01-21 Thread Mick
Nick Rout wrote:

 On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:27:28 -0500
 Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm in the process of installing gentoo now, in the hope of getting it to
 work more reliably (and more up-to-date) than Debian.  Debian's 2.6.18-3
 kernel includes backported msync-optimising patches from 2.19 that don't
 work properly and have the effect of sometimes causing serious
 file-system damage. (see
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=401006 if you're curious
 about gory details).
 
 What I was wondering was whether a similar misfortune has befallen
 gentoo's 2.6.18 kernel, or whether gentoo's kernel developers have just
 left the 2.6.19 patches in 2.6.19.
 
 Maybe I'm being silly asking about this, but I have become paranoid about
 severe file system damage.
 
 -- hendrik
 
 there are a number of kernels you can install in gentoo - see inside the
 directory /usr/portage/sys-kernel. You can also see what patches have been
 applied by looking at the ebuilds.

You may also want to browse the devs ML where you may find announcements
similar to this:

http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_141891.xml
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[gentoo-user] Where to put policy routing

2007-01-21 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hello,

I have a firewall setup where I do need policy routing since I have two
default routers (one for mail and one for websurfing). I could put the ip 
rules commands in local.start but I guess the right place would be 
conf.d/net. So what's the 'official' way of doing this?

Regards,

Konstantin
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Re: [gentoo-user] x11 display as v4l device

2007-01-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:18:20 -0300
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anybody know if there is some driver+tools that could present an
 x11 display as a v4l device?

Probably not. Since V4L is a kernel interface, you would need a dummy
driver in the kernel. Probably the easiest way to archieve what you
want is to write a module that provides a v4l interface to a dummy
framebuffer. Not that I'm volunteering...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: logrotate won't rotate portage logs

2007-01-21 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 16:46:36 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks HW, this is what logrotate -d shows re. portage logs:
 
 # logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf
 [snip...]
 rotating pattern: /var/log/portage/*.log
  weekly (1 rotations)
 [snip...]
 considering log /var/log/portage/4053-xorg-x11-6.8.2-r6.log
   log does not need rotating
 [snip...]
 

Hm, I've never fiddled with logrotate around so much, but if I'm not
misinterpreting the man page, you can rotate based on the age of a file
using the directive maxage days. The weekly rotation seems to
have some state saving and checking on which rotation is based on.

 I don't know if you can see something amiss above.  I guess I can wait
 for a week and see if this problem recurs.

You could cheat and use hwclock ;-) (if you do, don't forget
--noadjtime or your clock will skip drastically on each next reboot)

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Re: [gentoo-user] x11 display as v4l device

2007-01-21 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 Probably not. Since V4L is a kernel interface, you would need a dummy
 driver in the kernel. Probably the easiest way to archieve what you
 want is to write a module that provides a v4l interface to a dummy
 framebuffer. Not that I'm volunteering...

It seems I'll have to write it, or pay someone to do it. If anyone's willing, 
let me know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia card swap

2007-01-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Sunday 21 January 2007 02:49, James wrote:
 hello,

 I have a system using  this card:
  NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]

 and I want to use this card:
 NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]

 to hopefully get more perfomance on  3D applications.

 Can I just swap the hardware or do I have to edit
 (xorg.conf) and recompile some software, such as
 xorg-server ?


 ideas?

just replace them. If you have not done anything stupid in xorg.conf, 
everything will work.

About the drivers: even the legacy drivers can drive the 5200 so there is no 
need to do anything.
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[gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread John covici
I am having problems setting the domain name of a new gentoo
installation.  I looked at /etc/conf.d/net.examples and tried what
seemed to me what they were looking for such as
DNS_LO=domain name

The host name works, although I would like to not have it wipe out my
resolv.conf.  I can set hostname to the fully qualified name using the
hostname command, but gentoo still says unknown domain name when I log
in, so I am not sure this is correct.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Dale
Hi,

Every once in a blue moon I screw up something.  I don't know why I am
telling you this.  I come here mostly for help.  LOL  So you already now
that.  I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to consume some
space though.  What is say the top ten or twelve programs that would be
good to have in case of a rescue?  I would assume portage, gcc and
python would be pretty important.  I plan to delete the rest for space.

Since I figure some of you have more experience, I thought I would ask
you folks.  What is really needed to rescue from a serious borking of a
Gentoo install?

Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with. 

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

2007/1/21, John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I am having problems setting the domain name of a new gentoo
installation.  I looked at /etc/conf.d/net.examples and tried what
seemed to me what they were looking for such as
DNS_LO=domain name

The host name works, although I would like to not have it wipe out my
resolv.conf.  I can set hostname to the fully qualified name using the
hostname command, but gentoo still says unknown domain name when I log
in, so I am not sure this is correct.


try something like this in /etc/conf.d/net

dns_domain=domain-name
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Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to get rid of errors related to glib

2007-01-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

 Bo Ørsted Andresen schrieb:
 Make sure that you have the latest portage (either latest stable or latest 
 ~arch) i.e. run `emerge -u portage`. If that doesn't fix it I think you 
 should file a bug against portage at bugs.gentoo.org.

Submitted that bug right now:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163083

Hope I did it the right way, I am not yet used to submitting bugs there ;)

Thanks, Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Will this keep my /etc/resolv.conf in tact?


On my system, yes, but backup /etc/resolv.conf and try it out with
restarting /etc/init.d/net.eth0.
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Re: [gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 18:45:01 +0300, John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



I am having problems setting the domain name of a new gentoo
installation.  I looked at /etc/conf.d/net.examples and tried what
seemed to me what they were looking for such as
DNS_LO=domain name

The host name works, although I would like to not have it wipe out my
resolv.conf.  I can set hostname to the fully qualified name using the
hostname command, but gentoo still says unknown domain name when I log
in, so I am not sure this is correct.

Any assistance would be appreciated.



After I set the host name in /etc/conf.d/hostname (so that  
/etc/init.d/hostname could set it on startup), set the domain name with  
#domainname, and allowed it to be resolved to 129.0.0.1 in hosts, the log  
in screen started to show the correct host and domain.


It looks like the login screen displays the FQDN whenever it can be  
resolved.


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Re: [gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

maybe the dns_domain setting is wrong i have this in my config but iam
not sure if this really sets the domainname

you can also try setting this in /etc/hosts

127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.1   hostname,domain-name hostname
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[gentoo-user] About permissions, etc.

2007-01-21 Thread Charles Trois

Hello!

I am a bit confused about some matters related to permissions.
Here is a part of my fstab file:

Sirrah ~ # cat /etc/fstab
...
/dev/hda9   /mnt/giga   hfs   defaults,umask=0  0 0
/dev/hda10  /mnt/Sigma  hfsplus   defaults  0 0
/dev/hda11  /mnt/SigmaX hfsplus   defaults  0 0
...

and here are the contents of /mnt:

Sirrah ~ # ls -l /mnt
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root   28 Dec 21 17:00 Sigma
drwxrwxr-t 1 root cdrw   38 Jan 21 09:52 SigmaX
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Aug 11 01:49 cdrom
drwx-- 2 root root 4096 Aug 11 01:49 floppy
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root   40 Dec 21 16:00 giga

I want to suppress the write permissions on Sigma and SigmaX. So I did

Sirrah ~ # chmod 555 /mnt/Sigma

That worked all right, and I went on with

Sirrah ~ # chmod 555 /mnt/SigmaX
chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/SigmaX': Read-only file system

The error here is surprising, as SigmaX is mounted rw:

Sirrah ~ # mount
...
/dev/hda11 on /mnt/SigmaX type hfsplus (rw)
...

I tried the step of remounting it rw: the error disappeared, but chmod 
produced no result.
SigmaX, strangely, belongs to the cdrw group, and I wondered if that 
could be the cause of the trouble, so I tried to change it to root; but 
the answer was again: Read-only file system.

Finally, I wondered if SigmaX might have the i attribute, so I tried:

Sirrah ~ # lsattr /mnt
- /mnt/cdrom
- /mnt/floppy
lsattr: Inappropriate ioctl for device While reading flags on /mnt/giga
- /mnt/Sigma
- /mnt/SigmaX

It shows no attributes, but there is this error about giga: it is 
perhaps of no consequence, but it should not be there!


I'd be grateful for any hints that could help me get out of this mess.

Charles


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Re: [gentoo-user] error message concerning modules on boot

2007-01-21 Thread Benno Schulenberg
John covici wrote:
 I am getting the following error when I boot -- is this something
 all gentoo users get or am I doing something wrong?

 [...]
 Jan 21 08:26:53 ccs kernel: Symbols match kernel version 2.6.18.
 Jan 21 08:26:53 ccs kernel: Error querying loaded modules -
 Function not implemented

Seeing this too, since about forever.  It is probably the Module 
versioning support (CONFIG_MODVERSIONS) not being enabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] setting system's domain name

2007-01-21 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

sorry it should be


127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.1   hostname.domain-name hostname


Hostname and domain-name must have a full stop in between.
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[gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Timur Aydin
Hi,

I have a Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 wireless PCMCIA card, which I am
planning to use in my desktop PC through a Ricoh RL5c475 PCI-PCMCIA
bridge. The relevant output from uname, lspci and lspcmcia is at the
end of this message. The kernel configuration file and
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts is attached.

The problem I am seeing is that the wlan0 interface is not created by
the kernel. Here is the error log in the syslog file when I remove and
insert the PCMCIA card:

Jan 21 21:32:14 bonsai pccard: card ejected from slot 0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be fulfilled.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: the driver needs updating to supported shared 
IRQ lines.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai eth2: failed to initialize firmware (err = -19)
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be fulfilled.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: the driver needs updating to supported shared 
IRQ lines.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai eth2: failed to initialize firmware (err = -19)
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed

What could be the reason for this problem? Any hints on how to further
troubleshoot greatly appreciated...

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bonsai ~ # uname -a
Linux bonsai 2.6.18-gentoo-r6 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jan 20 20:42:12 EET 2007 i686 AMD 
Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

lspci -vvv output:

02:08.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 81)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+
Latency: 168
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
Region 0: Memory at f6006000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
Memory window 0: 5000-51fff000 (prefetchable)
Memory window 1: f6002000-f6003000
I/O window 0: 8000-80ff
I/O window 1: 8400-84ff
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- 16bInt+ PostWrite+
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

lspcmcia -vv output:

Socket 0 Bridge:[yenta_cardbus] (bus ID: :02:08.0)
Configuration:  state: on   ready: yes
Voltage: 3.3V Vcc: 3.3V Vpp: 0.0V
Available IRQs: none
Available ioports:  0x0100 - 0x028f
0x0298 - 0x03af
0x03e0 - 0x04cf
0x04d8 - 0x04ff
0x0820 - 0x08ff
0x0a00 - 0x0aff
0x0c00 - 0x0cf7
0x8000 - 0x9fff
Available iomem:0x000c - 0x000f
0x6000 - 0x60ff
0xa000 - 0xa0ff
0xf500 - 0xf5ff
0xf620 - 0xf6ff
Socket 0 Device 0:  [-- no driver --]   (bus ID: 0.0)
Configuration:  state: on
Product Name:   INTERSIL HFA384x/IEEE Version 01.02 
Identification: manf_id: 0x0156 card_id: 0x0002
function: 6 (network)
prod_id(1): INTERSIL (0x74c5e40d)
prod_id(2): HFA384x/IEEE (0xdb472a18)
prod_id(3): Version 01.02 (0x4b74baa0)
prod_id(4): --- (---)

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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
# Sat Jan 20 20:36:54 2007
#
CONFIG_X86_32=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y
CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_DMI=y
CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE is not set
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
# 

[gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Timur Aydin
Hi,

I have a Senao NL-2511CD PLUS EXT2 wireless PCMCIA card, which I am
planning to use in my desktop PC through a Ricoh RL5c475 PCI-PCMCIA
bridge. The relevant output from uname, lspci and lspcmcia is at the
end of this message. The kernel configuration file and
/etc/pcmcia/config.opts is attached.

The problem I am seeing is that the wlan0 interface is not created by
the kernel. Here is the error log in the syslog file when I remove and
insert the PCMCIA card:

Jan 21 21:32:14 bonsai pccard: card ejected from slot 0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: registering new device pcmcia0.0
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be fulfilled.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: the driver needs updating to supported shared 
IRQ lines.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai eth2: failed to initialize firmware (err = -19)
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be fulfilled.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: the driver needs updating to supported shared 
IRQ lines.
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai eth2: failed to initialize firmware (err = -19)
Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed

What could be the reason for this problem? Any hints on how to further
troubleshoot greatly appreciated...

-- 
Timur


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bonsai ~ # uname -a
Linux bonsai 2.6.18-gentoo-r6 #1 PREEMPT Sat Jan 20 20:42:12 EET 2007 i686 AMD 
Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

lspci -vvv output:

02:08.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 81)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR+
Latency: 168
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
Region 0: Memory at f6006000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Bus: primary=02, secondary=03, subordinate=06, sec-latency=176
Memory window 0: 5000-51fff000 (prefetchable)
Memory window 1: f6002000-f6003000
I/O window 0: 8000-80ff
I/O window 1: 8400-84ff
BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- Reset- 16bInt+ PostWrite+
16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001

lspcmcia -vv output:

Socket 0 Bridge:[yenta_cardbus] (bus ID: :02:08.0)
Configuration:  state: on   ready: yes
Voltage: 3.3V Vcc: 3.3V Vpp: 0.0V
Available IRQs: none
Available ioports:  0x0100 - 0x028f
0x0298 - 0x03af
0x03e0 - 0x04cf
0x04d8 - 0x04ff
0x0820 - 0x08ff
0x0a00 - 0x0aff
0x0c00 - 0x0cf7
0x8000 - 0x9fff
Available iomem:0x000c - 0x000f
0x6000 - 0x60ff
0xa000 - 0xa0ff
0xf500 - 0xf5ff
0xf620 - 0xf6ff
Socket 0 Device 0:  [-- no driver --]   (bus ID: 0.0)
Configuration:  state: on
Product Name:   INTERSIL HFA384x/IEEE Version 01.02 
Identification: manf_id: 0x0156 card_id: 0x0002
function: 6 (network)
prod_id(1): INTERSIL (0x74c5e40d)
prod_id(2): HFA384x/IEEE (0xdb472a18)
prod_id(3): Version 01.02 (0x4b74baa0)
prod_id(4): --- (---)

--

#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
# Linux kernel version: 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
# Sat Jan 20 20:36:54 2007
#
CONFIG_X86_32=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y
CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_DMI=y
CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST=/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE is not set
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
# 

Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put policy routing

2007-01-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 21 January 2007 07:52, Konstantinos Agouros elwood@agouros.de 
wrote about '[gentoo-user]  Where to put policy routing':
 I have a firewall setup where I do need policy routing since I have two
 default routers (one for mail and one for websurfing). I could put the
 ip rules commands in local.start but I guess the right place would be
 conf.d/net. So what's the 'official' way of doing this?

I hope someone will correct me, but from what I could tell by reading 
the /etc/init.d/net.lo (and referenced files) there's no support for 
multiple routing tables in there.

So, I do my source-based routing in local.start, and you'll probably have 
to keep doing your policy routing there as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] About permissions, etc.

2007-01-21 Thread Norberto Bensa
Charles Trois wrote:
 Hello!

 I am a bit confused about some matters related to permissions.
 Here is a part of my fstab file:

 Sirrah ~ # cat /etc/fstab
 ...
 /dev/hda9   /mnt/giga   hfs   defaults,umask=0  0 0
 /dev/hda10  /mnt/Sigma  hfsplus   defaults  0 0
 /dev/hda11  /mnt/SigmaX hfsplus   defaults  0 0

Since you seem to be running on a Mac, I'd suggest to ask on gentoo-ppc-user.

Anyway, I don't know hfs{,plus} but I guess you'll have to play around with 
(from man mount):

Mount options for hfs
.
.
.
   dir_umask=n, file_umask=n, umask=n
  Set the umask used for all directories, all regular files, or
  all files and  directories.   Defaults to the umask of the
  current process.


Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 21 January 2007 09:55, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of':
 Every once in a blue moon I screw up something.  I don't know why I am
 telling you this.  I come here mostly for help.  LOL  So you already now
 that.  I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to consume some
 space though.  What is say the top ten or twelve programs that would be
 good to have in case of a rescue?  I would assume portage, gcc and
 python would be pretty important.  I plan to delete the rest for space.

Keep a glibc and binutils around as well.  Have busybox *installed*, 
statically linked.  pam, acl and your favorite non-X11 editor would be my 
next additions to the package list. Then, to round out the 10-12 add all 
the packages that provide your file system (e2fstools, reiserfstools, 
etc.) and block device (LVM, EVMS, etc.) tools.

 Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
 buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
 assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.

All you need is tar.  You simply extract the compressed tarball over your 
root file system and the package is installed, but not entered into the 
vdb (so, it wouldn't be a bad idea to re-emerge it once you get portage 
back up).

If you glibc gets screwed up, your standard tar will probably just die on 
you, which is why I mentioned a statically linked busybox as something to 
install. Busybox can  function as both a shell (if bash starts misbehaving 
cause readline, glibc, or something else it links to is broken) and tar, 
as well as a host of other programs.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 21 January 2007 13:42, Timur Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel':
 Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be
 fulfilled.
 Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: the driver needs updating to 
 supported shared IRQ lines.
 Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai eth2: failed to 
 initialize firmware (err = -19)
 Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai orinoco_cs: 
 register_netdev() failed

 What could be the reason for this problem? Any hints on how to further
 troubleshoot greatly appreciated...

Well, as it says the driver needs to be rewritten, so that something that's 
wrong that you probably can't fix (well, unless you want to head over to 
the lkml and become a patron).

That said, there may be a work around by disabling IRQ sharing which I 
think can be done by changing your config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel

2007-01-21 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 21 January 2007 14:32, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless PCMCIA card 
issue with 2.6.18 linux kernel':
 On Sunday 21 January 2007 13:42, Timur Aydin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
  Jan 21 21:32:17 bonsai pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be
  fulfilled.
 ... disabl[e] IRQ sharing which I
 think can be done by changing your config.

This is probably the troublesome line:
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
try running with this disabled instead.

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[gentoo-user] single command line argument not working on boot

2007-01-21 Thread John covici
Hi.  I was under the impression that I could boot into a shell before
the runlevel default started by adding single to my boot command
line.  There is nothing in the single directory and right now when I
say single it goes right to run level 3.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

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[gentoo-user] Re: single command line argument not working on boot

2007-01-21 Thread »Q«
In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was under the impression that I could boot into a shell before
 the runlevel default started by adding single to my boot command
 line.

Use softlevel=single instead of just single .

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[gentoo-user] Re: single command line argument not working on boot

2007-01-21 Thread Harm Geerts
On Sunday 21 January 2007 22:10, John covici wrote:
 Hi.  I was under the impression that I could boot into a shell before
 the runlevel default started by adding single to my boot command
 line.  There is nothing in the single directory and right now when I
 say single it goes right to run level 3.

 Any assistance would be appreciated.

The single runlevel is different from what you want.

If you want a shell instead of a runlevel you can boot with the init parameter 
like this:
your_kernel_image init=/bin/sh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where to put policy routing

2007-01-21 Thread Graham Murray
Konstantinos Agouros elwood@agouros.de writes:

 I have a firewall setup where I do need policy routing since I have two
 default routers (one for mail and one for websurfing). I could put the ip 
 rules commands in local.start but I guess the right place would be 
 conf.d/net. So what's the 'official' way of doing this?

Look at the example postup() function in /etc/conf.d/net.example.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: single command line argument not working on boot

2007-01-21 Thread Iván Pérez Domínguez
Harm Geerts wrote:
 On Sunday 21 January 2007 22:10, John covici wrote:
 Hi.  I was under the impression that I could boot into a shell before
 the runlevel default started by adding single to my boot command
 line.  There is nothing in the single directory and right now when I
 say single it goes right to run level 3.

 Any assistance would be appreciated.
 
 The single runlevel is different from what you want.
 
 If you want a shell instead of a runlevel you can boot with the init 
 parameter 
 like this:
 your_kernel_image init=/bin/sh

If you just want to prevent a specific daemon from loading, you can also
press 'I' when the runlevel starts. This will give you an interactive boot.


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[gentoo-user] package update quirck

2007-01-21 Thread Dorin Scutarasu
Hi,

I just noticed that when I do 'emerge -avuDN world' not all packages get 
updated to the last stable version:

 $ emerge -pvuDN world

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating world dependencies... done!

 Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

...but than...

 $ emerge -pv dbus

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies ... done!
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2 [0.62-r2] USE=X -debug -doc (-selinux)
 (-gtk%*) (-mono%) (-python%*) (-qt3%*) (-qt4%*) 1,368 kB

 Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 1,368 kB

... so I can update to sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2. Also, I see that there are 
packages that need sys-apps/dbus-0.90:
 $ equery d dbus
 [ Searching for packages depending on dbus... ]
 app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17 (hal? sys-apps/dbus-0.90)
 (hal ? =sys-apps/dbus-0.30)
 (hal ? =sys-apps/dbus-0.30)
 [...]

... so shouldn't portage prevent me from updating to dbus-1.0.2 since there 
are ebuilds that depend on sys-apps/dbus-0.90?


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[gentoo-user] Re: single command line argument not working on boot

2007-01-21 Thread John covici

on Sunday 01/21/2007 »Q«([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  In news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
  John covici [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I was under the impression that I could boot into a shell before
   the runlevel default started by adding single to my boot command
   line.
  
  Use softlevel=single instead of just single .
Ahhh, thanks much.


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[gentoo-user] X slowed down; is it KDE?

2007-01-21 Thread Vlad Dogaru

Hello,

Since this morning, Fluxbox has been running very slowly. For
instance, when I start Eterm, it takes about 3 to 5 seconds. Every
single time. And conky shows X climbing up to 100% CPU usage until I
get the terminal window.

Could this be because of my failed attempt to compile KDE? Emerge
failed at kde-base/kdelibs a few times, after which I gave up. Some 20
packages had already been installed, but I can't really see a
connexion. Nor have I tried to unmerge them, hoping to continue
installing KDE at a point when I have the time to figure out what is
wrong.

Thanks in advance,
Vlad

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 21 January 2007 16:55, Dale wrote:
[SNIP]
 I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to consume some
 space though.

You are aware that you can use eclean from app-portage/gentoolkit to clean 
binpkgs that you no longer have installed? I tend to use it with 
the --destructive option.

 What is say the top ten or twelve programs that would be 
 good to have in case of a rescue?  I would assume portage, gcc and
 python would be pretty important.  I plan to delete the rest for space.

I'd add bash and baselayout too (in addition to Boyds suggestions).

[SNIP]
 Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
 buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
 assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.

# cd /
# tar -xjf ${PATH_TO_BINPKG}.tbz2

When portage is working:

# emerge -K ${PKG}

Also if you cannot boot and you have busybox installed, statically linked 
adding init=/bin/busybox to the boot line should allow you to use busybox 
to extract the tarballs. Otherwise a livecd should work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X configuration problem

2007-01-21 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 23:39 +0530, arnuld wrote:
  did you forget to add these to /etc/make.conf?
 
  INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse synaptics
  VIDEO_CARDS=ati radeon vesa fbdev fglrx
 
 Iain, it seems likee you have not read my 1st post, here is the
 relevent part of it:
 
   INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
   VIDEO_CARDS=fglrx vesa via vga v4l

oops, you're right, I didn't see that :)  you spelt fglrx as flrx though
in your first post, but I see someone mentioned that already.

 BTW, what does synaptics do? and what do ati radeon fbdev do?

synaptics is the touchpad driver, and ati, radeon, and fbdev are all
video drivers.  These were just my examples, I was really pointing out
the INPUT_DEVICES section, which you've pointed out is the same as mine.

  you may use a different set of drivers of course.  See google on these
  for more info :)
 
 i tried google. it confused me even more.

ok, try these google searches:

INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo.org
and
INPUT_DEVICES VIDEO_CARDS site:http://www.gentoo-wiki.org

  what is DRI  OpenGL
 replacing X window system?

replacing?  not quite sure what you mean here...

  what does mesa has to do with DRI

Mesa is an open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification. [1]

   why
 ATI RADEON search opens the links to AMD web-site

probably because ATI was bought by AMD not long ago, and the page you
visited doesn't exist anymore.

   then they show me
 something like AMD 9600 series for Linux x86_64 ?

maybe because they're auto-redirect for non-existant linux related pages
goes here?  some sort of semi-intelligent advertising?

 ?

!

OK, back to your issue.  It looks like you have the right options in
make.conf.  If your xorg.conf mouse section is the same as Dale's, then
it's the same as mine, so that should be fine (/dev/input/mice is ok).
I use the kbd driver, and so do you, so that looks fine.

That leaves the possibility that somehow the drivers still aren't
installed.  Can you try this command (it wont do anything to your
system)

emerge -pv xf86-input-mouse xf86-input-keyboard

and then this one:

X -version


Hope you're getting somewhere!

[1] http://www.mesa3d.org/faq.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Do Debian's 2.6.18 problems exist in gentoo?

2007-01-21 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 15:09 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:27:28 -0500
 Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm in the process of installing gentoo now,

good! [snip]

  What I was wondering was whether a similar misfortune has befallen
  gentoo's 2.6.18 kernel, or whether gentoo's kernel developers have just
  left the 2.6.19 patches in 2.6.19.
  
  Maybe I'm being silly asking about this, but I have become paranoid about
  severe file system damage.
  
  -- hendrik
 
 there are a number of kernels you can install in gentoo - see inside
 the directory /usr/portage/sys-kernel. You can also see what patches
 have been applied by looking at the ebuilds.

to those not familiar with gentoo: there is also a vanilla-sources
ebuild, which installs the kernel exactly as it is from kernel.org, with
no patches, if you want to go that way.

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] Re: package update quirck

2007-01-21 Thread »Q«
Dorin Scutarasu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ... so shouldn't portage prevent me from updating to dbus-1.0.2 since
 there are ebuilds that depend on sys-apps/dbus-0.90?

The required revdep-rebuild after upgrading dbus will take care of
those reverse dependencies. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a home router

2007-01-21 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Sat, 2007-01-20 at 23:01 +0100, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
  The only last thing I could suggest is running lsof to see what files
  are being accessed when you start the net.eth1 script.
 
 I tried lsof, but is there a possibility to run it constantly or for a
 specified time to catch the complete progress of the script, like the
 top command  to monitor all files which are used by this process. As
 far as i can see lsof list only the current processes and the files
 used and then it stops.

don't know :) someone else will have to help you there...

  a better option would be `emerge --noconfmem package`, which
  esentially re-does all your conf files.
 
 I tried this also but i can't figure out which files could be
 responsible for this

something like this should do it:

for i in `sudo find /etc -name ._cfg\*`; do tkdiff `echo $i | awk
'{ sub(/._cfg_/,); print }'` $i; done

replace tkdiff with your favourite.

 Additionally i tried this, running the init-script and then i applied
 this find command
 
 find / -mount -cmin -1
 
 which lists all the files which status has changed the last minute,
 but there are no files which could be the reason for the changing if
 the tables.
 I don't know if this command does what i want. I think it lists the
 files which are altered and which are accessed. Am i right here?

it will list files that have been accessed, only if you _don't_ have
noatime in /etc/fstab for that filesystem.  noatime says don't update
the time when the file is accessed (but not changed).  the default is
atime, but a lot of people use noatime for speed improvements.


 This gets a bit frustrating for me now i always have to reset my
 iptables manually after i start my internet connection. Is it possible
 that there is no real file causing this trouble?

There must be something, somewhere doing it.. Maybe you could join the
shorewall ml and see what they say?  As a workaround, you could add this
to /etc/conf.d/net:

 postup() {
if [[ $1 == eth1 ]] ; then
   /etc/init.d/iptables restart
fi
 }

or something similar.  Not the ideal solution, but at least it would do
it automatically.

sorry I can't help any further :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] package update quirck

2007-01-21 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Sunday 21 January 2007 23:08, Dorin Scutarasu wrote:
 I just noticed that when I do 'emerge -avuDN world' not all packages get

 updated to the last stable version:
  $ emerge -pvuDN world
[SNIP]
  Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB

 ...but than...

  $ emerge -pv dbus
[SNIP]
  [ebuild U ] sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2 [0.62-r2] USE=X -debug -doc
[SNIP]
 ... so I can update to sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2. Also, I see that there are

This suggests that dbus isn't in world or a dep on anything in world. Hence it 
should show up on `emerge --depclean -p`.

 packages that need sys-apps/dbus-0.90:
  $ equery d dbus
  [ Searching for packages depending on dbus... ]
  app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17 (hal? sys-apps/dbus-0.90)
  (hal ? =sys-apps/dbus-0.30)
  (hal ? =sys-apps/dbus-0.30)
  [...]

 ... so shouldn't portage prevent me from updating to dbus-1.0.2 since there
 are ebuilds that depend on sys-apps/dbus-0.90?

The actual dependency looks like this:

# grep -A 2 hal? $(portageq portdir)/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-0.12.17.ebuild
hal? ( || ( dev-libs/dbus-qt3-old
( sys-apps/dbus-0.90 =sys-apps/dbus-0.30 ) )
sys-apps/hal )

So k3b doesn't depend on dbus if the hal USE flag is disabled or if 
dbus-qt3-old is installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:25:21 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

  Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
  buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
  assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.  
 
 All you need is tar.  You simply extract the compressed tarball over
 your root file system and the package is installed, but not entered
 into the vdb (so, it wouldn't be a bad idea to re-emerge it once you
 get portage back up).

Remember that tar doesn't respect $CONFIG_PROTECT, so it may overwrite
your carefully crafted configuration files in /etc. Og course, if you're
sensible enough to keep binary packages of the most important apps
around, you're more than sensible enough to have a backup of /etc :)

You may also want to consider keeping binary packages of some of the
larger (as i compile time) not-quite-essential packages. Keeping binaries
of xorg-server, kdelibs etc. may help you get going again more quickly
after a broken upgrade or other borkage. If you use openoffice, as
opposed to openoffice-bin, keeping a package fo that goes without saying.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Xgl and direct rendering or 'Would you like Xorg or Xgl, sir?'

2007-01-21 Thread Richard Fish

On 1/20/07, Jan Stępień [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(/lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r4/kernel/drivers/char/drm/drm.ko): Cannot
allocate memory


Try searching dmesg for drm.  My guess is either the radeonfb module
is conflicting, or the fglrx module.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Dale
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Sunday 21 January 2007 09:55, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 about '[gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of':
   
 Every once in a blue moon I screw up something.  I don't know why I am
 telling you this.  I come here mostly for help.  LOL  So you already now
 that.  I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to consume some
 space though.  What is say the top ten or twelve programs that would be
 good to have in case of a rescue?  I would assume portage, gcc and
 python would be pretty important.  I plan to delete the rest for space.
 

 Keep a glibc and binutils around as well.  Have busybox *installed*, 
 statically linked.  pam, acl and your favorite non-X11 editor would be my 
 next additions to the package list. Then, to round out the 10-12 add all 
 the packages that provide your file system (e2fstools, reiserfstools, 
 etc.) and block device (LVM, EVMS, etc.) tools.
   

I have busybox installed.  I wonder where that came from.  :/  This is
what it says the flags are:

 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/busybox-1.2.2.1  USE=-debug -make-symlinks
 -netboot -savedconfig -static 1,380 kB

Those correct?  I would hate to bork something and then find out busybox
is installed wrong.  It would be my luck though.


   
 Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
 buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
 assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.
 

 All you need is tar.  You simply extract the compressed tarball over your 
 root file system and the package is installed, but not entered into the 
 vdb (so, it wouldn't be a bad idea to re-emerge it once you get portage 
 back up).

 If you glibc gets screwed up, your standard tar will probably just die on 
 you, which is why I mentioned a statically linked busybox as something to 
 install. Busybox can  function as both a shell (if bash starts misbehaving 
 cause readline, glibc, or something else it links to is broken) and tar, 
 as well as a host of other programs.

   

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:25:21 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

   
 Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
 buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
 assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.  
   
 All you need is tar.  You simply extract the compressed tarball over
 your root file system and the package is installed, but not entered
 into the vdb (so, it wouldn't be a bad idea to re-emerge it once you
 get portage back up).
 

 Remember that tar doesn't respect $CONFIG_PROTECT, so it may overwrite
 your carefully crafted configuration files in /etc. Og course, if you're
 sensible enough to keep binary packages of the most important apps
 around, you're more than sensible enough to have a backup of /etc :)

 You may also want to consider keeping binary packages of some of the
 larger (as i compile time) not-quite-essential packages. Keeping binaries
 of xorg-server, kdelibs etc. may help you get going again more quickly
 after a broken upgrade or other borkage. If you use openoffice, as
 opposed to openoffice-bin, keeping a package fo that goes without saying.


   

I do  make backups of /etc.  It's the only way to make sure.  I mean,
those are crucial.  I have used them once or twice.  That merge thing
sort of confuses me sometimes. 

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Sunday 21 January 2007 16:55, Dale wrote:
 [SNIP]
   
 I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to consume some
 space though.
 

 You are aware that you can use eclean from app-portage/gentoolkit to clean 
 binpkgs that you no longer have installed? I tend to use it with 
 the --destructive option.
   

Yea, I use that.  Some of my older systems have small drives though.  I
even delete everything from distfiles, sometimes I have too.  :-O
   
 What is say the top ten or twelve programs that would be 
 good to have in case of a rescue?  I would assume portage, gcc and
 python would be pretty important.  I plan to delete the rest for space.
 

 I'd add bash and baselayout too (in addition to Boyds suggestions).

 [SNIP]
   
 Also, what commands would a person have to use to make use of those
 buildpkg's?  So far, I have not needed one.   says prayer   That
 assumes portage is what is screwed up to begin with.
 

 # cd /
 # tar -xjf ${PATH_TO_BINPKG}.tbz2

 When portage is working:

 # emerge -K ${PKG}

 Also if you cannot boot and you have busybox installed, statically linked 
 adding init=/bin/busybox to the boot line should allow you to use busybox 
 to extract the tarballs. Otherwise a livecd should work.

   

I made a note of those commands.  lol  Maybe now I won't need them.  ;-)

Here is the list so far:

portage, gcc, python, pam, acl, nano, reiserfstools, bash, baselayout.  
We can add in any big packages if we feel froggy, OOo, kdelibs etc etc. 
May help.  Funny though, I haven't had OOo fail to compile or not work
right in ages.  It just seems to work like it should.  Is that lucky or
what?

Anybody think of something else that should be added??  I wonder if I
should post this info on the forums?  This is something that would be
good to know really, especially of you are new to Gentoo.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Most important packages to save buildpkg of

2007-01-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 21 January 2007 17:55, Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 Every once in a blue moon I screw up something.  I don't know why I
 am telling you this.  I come here mostly for help.  LOL  So you
 already now that.  I have buildpkg set in make.conf.  It does tend to
 consume some space though.  What is say the top ten or twelve
 programs that would be good to have in case of a rescue?  I would
 assume portage, gcc and python would be pretty important.  I plan to
 delete the rest for space.

 Since I figure some of you have more experience, I thought I would
 ask you folks.  What is really needed to rescue from a serious
 borking of a Gentoo install?

Everything in system - it all has to be there anyway 

Then anything else you consider that's a major pain to emerge - 
openoffice, koffice, kde and Xorg come to mind. This isn't necessary, 
just makes life more convenient if and when you need it

alan
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