Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
Alan McKinnon wrote: Sorry, but that's never a good reason for using Gentoo. If a binary distro compiles every option under the sun then the software will still work, but the binaries might be a bit big. Compiling on your machine gives no discernable performance benefit for the average user. Gentoo's strength is in being able to enable or disable individual features in each package. So, if you (say) can't stand Red Hat becuase it defaults to a Gnome DE, use Gentoo by all mans. If you can't stand Red Hat becuase you think it's slow, then you have faulty hardware and Gentoo is going to perform about the same... I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true if you customize all the flags you can. I suspect he will see a speed difference. Plus he will know what is being installed and why. Gentoo IMHO beats Mandrake and others by a long shot. What would be the 'best' medium for me, minimal or live CD? I have a high speed connection. Doesn't matter, it comes out to the same anyway. The minimal CD has only the absolute minimum sources on it, so you have to download the rest. The LiveCD gets you up and running in an hour or two, but the packages on it are bound to have updates (because OSS projects release early and often), so with your first world update you will download new versions. Use the Live CD if you want to get a working machine quickly. If watching gcc output scroll off the screen turns you on (it does for most of us around here) then use the minimal by all means. This is true. Gentoo updates pretty fast. A lot quicker than most. That can be good but it can be bad too. Just try to sync up as soon as you can. No need installing something just to update it again in a little bit. Two avoid a typical dual boot install. I would like gentoo to boot from my second hard drive. During boot up, I can now select which HD I want to boot from. Will the install process let me assign a boot disk? It's been a while since I did a virgin install, so things might have changed recently. Back when I did my last install, the process was completely different to a binary distro, and one of the steps was to partition the disk manually, install grub and edit grub.conf exactly the way you want it. So your answer is yes, you can assign boot disks, but it isn't a check box you click. But, the latest installers may well have changed the entire process alan If he uses the GUI thing, which has never worked for me, it is a lot different. It seems to be easier to configure, if I could just get it to finish for once. It starts, then hangs up and just sits there doing nothing. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Dale wrote: Use the Live CD if you want to get a working machine quickly. If watching gcc output scroll off the screen turns you on (it does for most of us around here) then use the minimal by all means. This is true. Gentoo updates pretty fast. A lot quicker than most. That can be good but it can be bad too. Just try to sync up as soon as you can. No need installing something just to update it again in a little bit. That reminds me of an interesting exercise I went though sometime last year: Hauled out my trusty 2005.0 minimal disk and let her rip on this very notebook. Set up my usual flags etc etc and let it compile. The thing is, it escaped my notice that the machine was offline and it was using the portage tree and the sources from the CD. I think it was a Friday and the pub upstairs was beckoning... On Monday morning I went to work and did the usual emerge --sync emerge -avuNDt world ouch. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 00:48, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:46 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Mikie wrote: Anyone out there know where I could DL an iso file with a simple route only linux? Is _really_ that hard to use Google? Maybe they've never heard of Google. Or maybe they live in a country where Google is forced to censor their search results or something like that. ... or maybe they're just lazy. Or maybe they actually wanted a recommendation from someone rather than just picking something off the shelf based on how good its website was. Stranger things have happened... Pete. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:26AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true if you customize all the flags you can. I suspect he will see a speed difference. Plus he will know what is being installed and why. Gentoo IMHO beats Mandrake and others by a long shot. Well, yes, it may be faster a bit, like 1%, maybe 10%… But if one distro would be unbearable slow, gentoo would be too. It won't just be faster 10 times, and yes, that 10% are nice, but not usually worth switching your distro. Have a nice day -- Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? A: It wasn't IBM compatible. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpfTUS3SiU7U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap for Spanish laptop
Grant wrote: My girlfriend is from Spain as is her laptop and many of the keys I press don't coincide with the characters printed on the screen. I changed /etc/conf.d/keymap to: KEYMAP=es and rebooted but the keymap behavior doesn't seem to have changed. Does anyone know how to fix this? - Grant You also need to add the keymaps init script to your boot runlevel rc-update add keymaps boot Cheers, Jay -- My system configuration (Gentoo Linux): http://www.linux-stats.org/index.php?c=userpagesys=810 Registered Linux User #373457 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:26AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true if you customize all the flags you can. I suspect he will see a speed difference. Plus he will know what is being installed and why. Gentoo IMHO beats Mandrake and others by a long shot. Well, yes, it may be faster a bit, like 1%, maybe 10%… But if one distro would be unbearable slow, gentoo would be too. It won't just be faster 10 times, and yes, that 10% are nice, but not usually worth switching your distro. Have a nice day I did a bit of timing on mine. Gentoo was about twice as fast as Mandrake. I have more stuff running now than I did with Mandrake. I have a good bit of server stuff running on Gentoo too. Gentoo is faster *if* you take the time to set it up right. I'm not saying to use insane flags that make you unstable just that you can optimize it for your CPU and such. It certainly helps a lot. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
Peter Lewis wrote: On Tuesday 20 February 2007 00:48, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 19:46 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Mikie wrote: Anyone out there know where I could DL an iso file with a simple route only linux? Is _really_ that hard to use Google? Maybe they've never heard of Google. Or maybe they live in a country where Google is forced to censor their search results or something like that. ... or maybe they're just lazy. Or maybe they actually wanted a recommendation from someone rather than just picking something off the shelf based on how good its website was. Stranger things have happened... Pete. That I can understand. I sometimes want someone to tell me something good to use so I can get a unbiased opinion. It's no different than which distro to use, it depends on a lot of things and sometimes asking and getting some advice is the best way to go. If you want paid support and rare updates, Redhat. If you want bleeding edge and fast, your on the right list anyway. LOL Google ain't always right either. Sometimes I have more questions after a Google search than I did when I started searching. :/ Dale -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild question
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:42:13 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: 1. It's an orphan, left over from an unmerge that wasn't fully successful. if you don't need them, delete them. 2. A package was installed, and it created it's own binaries for it's own use. Portage didn't put them there so doesn't know about them. This is rare and usually applies to config and other data files. In this case it's up to you to figure out what the file is as portage can't help. 3. You compiled something long ago by hand and didn't put it in /usr/local/ like you were supposed to, and used /usr/ instead. In this case you get to remember what you did by yourself :-) 4. The file was installed by portage and subsequently modified. When you uninstalled the package, portage didn't remove this file because the mtime differed from what it had installed. This typically occurs with .la files (Mark's revdep-rebuild output showed some of these) after fix_libtool_files.sh has changed them. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 11: Terribly pleased signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
Peter Lewis wrote: Or maybe they actually wanted a recommendation from someone rather than just picking something off the shelf based on how good its website was. Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a recommendation on available router distros. In that case, I feel very sorry. Best regards, Norberto pgp7Clju8wEcg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Ric de France wrote: Hi list(s), I was looking through the dynamic USE flag page ( http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml ), and noticed there were some flags that brought in evolution support... but after realising I don't used evolution (as I am happy with thunderbird), I was wondering how to remove evolution from gnome once and for all... You can't so it with USE flags as evolution is a hard dependency on gnome-base/gnome: RDEPEND=!gnome-base/gnome-core [snip irrelevant depends] =gnome-extra/gtkhtml-3.12.2 =mail-client/evolution-2.8.2.1 =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.8.2 =gnome-extra/evolution-webcal-2.8.0 So, if you emerged gnome, you's-a-gonna get evolution. Instead, you should unmerge gnome (it's just a meta package), then merge gnome-light. This is a minimal set of packages that gnome must have to work at all. Then run emerge -pv --depclean to see what portage wants to remove. To prevent this, you must select the packages you want to keep from that list and explicitly put them into world with emerge -avn list of packages Then rerun emerge -pv --depclean again, and if you are happy losing what's in that list, let it run without -p alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:09 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a recommendation on available router distros. In that case, I feel very sorry. Don't be too hard on yourself, the OP didn't ask for a recommendation, only a download location. -- Neil Bothwick Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?
Sven Köhler wrote: Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a hard-dependency of some other gnome-package. I thought an -eds USE flag will keep evolution-data-server from being installed? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Sean wrote: Sven Köhler wrote: Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a hard-dependency of some other gnome-package. I thought an -eds USE flag will keep evolution-data-server from being installed? No. I think you misunderstand the purpose of USE flags. They do not dictate what will be installed or not installed (although sometimes that happens as a side effect). USE flags dictate what FEATURES will be enabled in package that recognises the flags. evolution-data-server does not make use of the eds flag (why would it? It doesn't need to support itself). But openoffice.org does have such a flag. If you 'USE=eds emerge openoffice.org' then OOo will be built with support for evolution-data-server. This is unlikely to compile successfully without evolution-data-server actually on the system, so the OOo ebuild contains this line COMMON_DEPEND= [snip stuff] eds? ( =gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2 ) Which will pull in evolution-data-server and build before OOo. Note that this is a side-effect of enabling the USE flag. If you now remove eds from USE and rebuild OOo, it will be rebuilt without that support. However, the evolution-data-server package will remain on the system until you remove it explicitly with 'emerge -C' or implicitly with 'emerge --depclean' (--depclean will only remove it if it's not in your world) alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed
Hi ;) This error appears in my Xorg.0.log at boot time: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file ordirectory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering And It seems that 3D rendering is exists, but I think that something wrong in it, because FPS (I think so) is too slow ( about 240 ) and I have some strange errors in multimedia drivers (e.g. mplayer fails on playing DVD with 'opengl' driver, and any other drivers is generally fails with message about can't open vo device ). I think it consequence of AIGLX error but even if it's not, a want to fix this error anyway I use x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.27.10-r1 and x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1 on gentoo-sources-2.6.17-r8 The part of my xorg.conf: Section Module Loaddbe SubSection extmod Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection Loadtype1 #Loadspeedo Loadfreetype #Loadxtt Load glx Load dri EndSection and: Section DRI Mode 0666 EndSection Section Extensions #Option Composite #Option RENDER Enable EndSection Can anybody help me? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 03:23 -0600, Dale wrote: That I can understand. I sometimes want someone to tell me something good to use so I can get a unbiased opinion. Yeah except a) opinions *are* biased and b) one's opinion was never asked and c) I've observed that asking a bunch of strangers for their opinion is just as (un)reliable as a Google search (recall how Google ranks pages). Google ain't always right either. Sometimes I have more questions after a Google search than I did when I started searching. :/ As do I, but I always considered that a good thing. -m -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Keymap for Spanish laptop
I changed /etc/conf.d/keymap to: KEYMAP=es and rebooted but the keymap behavior doesn't seem to have changed. The keymap where? The keymap on the console should be es after the above change. To change it in X too, use Option XkbLayout es in xorg.conf, or set it with 'setxkbmap es' from the commandline. Or set it using the KDE or Gnome Control Center. Thanks, that worked perfectly. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge numpy 1.0.1-r1 failing: can't find cblas
On Monday 19 February 2007 19:36:35 Grant Edwards wrote: * You need to set cblas to atlas or reference. Do: *eselect cblas set impl * where impl is atlas, threaded-atlas or reference !!! ERROR: dev-python/numpy-1.0.1-r1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile' environment, line 3930: Called src_compile numpy-1.0.1-r1.ebuild, line 122: Called numpy_configure numpy-1.0.1-r1.ebuild, line 37: Called die http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167652 -- Bo Andresen pgpUHdAkXKt3a.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?
I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a hard-dependency of some other gnome-package. I thought an -eds USE flag will keep evolution-data-server from being installed? There is a gnome-package, that doesn't compile without evolution-data-server (I forgot the name, unfortunatly). So evolution-data-server must to be installed. Anyway: with the eds-useflag, you can ONLY disable the build of evolution-data-server-related features of certain packages. Even if you disable it, there may be packages, that don't recognize the use-flag and have a hard dependency on evolution-data-server. These packages need evolution-data-server for being compiled. There is no way around this! The gentoo-guys can do nothing about it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?
Hi list(s), I was looking through the dynamic USE flag page ( http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml ), and noticed there were some flags that brought in evolution support... but after realising I don't used evolution (as I am happy with thunderbird), I was wondering how to remove evolution from gnome once and for all... The solution would be something along the lines of: # USE=-something emerge -DNuva world # emerge -P something_else That was I was hoping that if I was going to -DNuva on world again, it would not brought in again... I know I would be editing /etc/make.conf to make it more permanent than just doing it before the emerge world command... It's just that I'm having a hard time from figuring out which USE flags (if any) to remove to get rid of evolution... Any suggestions? TIA, ...Ric -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == == http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml == -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: how do I remove evolution from gnome?
Any suggestions? I put evolution in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. Then portage assumes, that it is installed ba hand and therefor it's not installed installed automatically. Unfortunatly, you still have to install eveolution-data-server and evolution-webcal, because it's a hard-dependency of some other gnome-package. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and Portage issues
Bo Ørsted Andresen írta: On Monday 19 February 2007 22:40:32 Gyuszk wrote: As this email is clear text, I cannot mark, but from the USE flags, it is obvious that Portage now considers all my USE flag demands, although emerge -pvN world don't. That is what I don't understand. You want `emerge -pvN --deep world`. Thanks a lot! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 11:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:09 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: Hm. It sounded like he was lazy to do a research work. I have to confess it didn't even cross my head that OP just wanted a recommendation on available router distros. In that case, I feel very sorry. Don't be too hard on yourself, the OP didn't ask for a recommendation, only a download location. No, I didn't mean it as a criticism anyway. I just find that it helps to assume the best on mailing lists. It all helps for a happy community. :-) Pete. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do I remove evolution from gnome?
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 22:09 +1100, Ric de France wrote: Hossa. It's just that I'm having a hard time from figuring out which USE flags (if any) to remove to get rid of evolution... Any suggestions? You could use gnome-base/gnome-light, which is basically (quote from the ebuild): # This is a wrapper for the 'light' Gnome2 desktop, # This should only consist of the bare minimum of libs/apps needed # It is basicly the gnome-base/gnome without all extra apps It does not depend on evolution, but some other program you might wanna install later might. Regards Jürgen -- ICQ #81510866 - http://the-gay-bar.com - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Occam's Razor: -Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem.- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Which wireless cardbus?
On 19 Feb 2007, at 23:15, Mick wrote: ... You don't state which model of Belkin you tried, but I can assure you that they do a set (USB, cardbus, PCI) of 802.11g cards that are excellently supported by the rt2500 drivers. These are excellent, are OSS you can get them with `emerge rt2500`. Well, I didn't want to bore you - I think I may have already posted about my troubles with it in the past. It is a Belkin USB WiFi adaptor, Model No. K7SF5D7050A, which seems to have a RaLink chipset ... However, if you have any ideas to make my Belkin USB work again then I'll use that voucher for something else. :) I can't comment on that, although it doesn't particularly surprise me. I know the drivers for the USB RaLink chipsets are less mature than those for the PCI Cardbus cards - when I first started using those (100% success on the Belkin cards under Gentoo, very easy to get going) work on the BSD USB drivers was only just beginning. I recommend this card, but if you're outside the UK contact in advance regarding shipping: http://networkned.co.uk/Belkin_Cardbus.php FULL DISCLOSURE: I am involved with this supplier. Having been burned once I would rather go for something which has matured enough to be in the kernel, if possible, but thank you for the suggestion all the same. I don't think you're going to be terribly lucky with that. I'm only familiar with the 3 drivers I mentioned - and I know there's an OSS driver available for an Intel chipset, too - but of those 3 only the prism54 was in the main kernel last time I checked, and cards with that chipset that are getting quite hard to get hold of. I have never seen a prism54 cardbus card. I appreciate your concerns, but honestly a rt2500 cardbus (or PCI) card is a safe bet - these drivers are very mature. I'm guessing that driver design for USB devices is more complicated /or widely less well-understood than for devices using the more traditional PCI or cardbus busses (in fact, I think PCI cardbus are substantially the same from the computer's point-of-view). I'd be very surprised if you were to plug on of these cards into your machine and `emerge rt2500 modprobe rt2500 iwconfig` failed to show it. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
Hallo, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start * Starting gfs cluster: * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel module [ !! ] Check your kernel configuration, particularly the Distributed Lock Manager option, CONFIG_DLM. You may need that part of mainline so that your out-of-tree module works. Thank you for the fast answer. I looked into the file /usr/src/linux/.config. There is no variable CONFIG_DLM in it. Also with a make menuconfig I did not find a possibility to select it. Apart from the occurring problem it is strange for me that emerge installs the kernel module into the root directory of the system (see error message above) and not into /lib/modules/... as I would expect. Hrm, double-check (by looking at your filesystem) to make sure it's in the wrong place. If so, please file a bug, that behavior is broken. I redirected the output of an emerge into a file with the following command: emerge sys-cluster/dlm-kernel test.out The full test.out can be found at the following address machine: ftp.dkrz.de login : anonymous passwd : your Email cd /pub/Outgoing/stefan_bauer But, I think, the most important lines are the following: Merging sys-cluster/dlm-kernel-1.03.00 to / --- /cluster/ /cluster/dlm.ko If this is a bug, please let me know how I write a bug report - I never did this before :-) . OT By the way, the format of your question was excellent, IMHO. It had the right information about how your Gentoo system is set up and the exact, initial error message. /OT Thank you very much :-) and best regards, Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge numpy 1.0.1-r1 failing: can't find cblas
On 2007-02-20, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 19 February 2007 19:36:35 Grant Edwards wrote: * You need to set cblas to atlas or reference. Do: *eselect cblas set impl * where impl is atlas, threaded-atlas or reference !!! ERROR: dev-python/numpy-1.0.1-r1 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile' environment, line 3930: Called src_compile numpy-1.0.1-r1.ebuild, line 122: Called numpy_configure numpy-1.0.1-r1.ebuild, line 37: Called die http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167652 I know. I filed that bug report. The fix is to unmask testing versions of the cblas packages and install newer versions. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I am a traffic light, at and Alan Ginzberg kidnapped visi.commy laundry in 1927! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge dazuko 2.3.x with kernel 2.6.20
Peter Ruskin wrote: No, it doesn't look familiar - I had no problems at all I wonder... Could you please check your kernel configuration? /usr/src/linux-2.6.20-gentoo # grep CONFIG_SECURITY .config CONFIG_SECURITY=y CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK=y CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK_XFRM=y CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES=m CONFIG_SECURITY_ROOTPLUG=m # CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX is not set I'd like to know if these settings are different on your machine. -R -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
Hi, On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:32 +0100 Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merging sys-cluster/dlm-kernel-1.03.00 to / --- /cluster/ /cluster/dlm.ko Hm. What does uname -r say on your system? What's /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/source linked to? Valid kernel location? -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
Peter Lewis prlewis at letterboxes.org writes: No, I didn't mean it as a criticism anyway. I just find that it helps to assume the best on mailing lists. It all helps for a happy community. Dear Pompous Jerks: The arrogance of these responses is astounding. Does anyone believe in civility any more? If google is so wonderful, and all of the aforementioned geniuses so bright, how did you guys miss the most glaring response of all? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap-userguide.xml After all, since he asked on a gentoo list, might we not all assume that he's inquiring about a gentoo_ish solution, without explicit statement thereof? You guys should be ashamed of your behavior. Just because somebody does not write a politically correct question, does not mean they don't need help. If you are not will to *HELP* then just ignore the email.. Besides, Gentoo's greatest strength is the help the community provides to one another. Do you think this guy is now going to go to his friends and say hey checkout this firewall I found and set up with the help of the gentoo community? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
Hallo, Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:33:32 +0100 Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merging sys-cluster/dlm-kernel-1.03.00 to / --- /cluster/ /cluster/dlm.ko Hm. What does uname -r say on your system? What's /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/source linked to? Valid kernel location? uname -r -- 2.6.18-gentoo-r2 ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.18-gentoo-r2/source provides lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Nov 20 17:33 source - /usr/src/linux-2.6.18-gentoo-r2 This is the correct location of the kernel sources. Best regards, Stefan -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] XV locks up X server after recent update
After an update a coule days ago, any attempt to use the XV extension (xine, mplayer, etc.) locks up the X server hard (100% CPU usage). Until the update a couple days ago XV had worked with no problems for about 14 months on this machine. I've rolled xorg-server back to 1.1.1-r1, but that didn't seem to help. Neither the ati-drivers version nor kernel has changed. Any ideas what else the update might have broken that I should try to undo? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Yow! I'm imagining at a surfer van filled with visi.comsoy sauce! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: XV locks up X server after recent update
On 2007-02-20, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither the ati-drivers version nor kernel has changed. Bzzt, wrong! The ati-drivers package was updated from 8.27.10-r1 to 8.32.5. Rolling it back to 8.27.10-r1 made xv work again. The lock up occurred with xorg-xserver versions 1.1.1-r1, 1.1.1-r4, 1.2.0-r1. ati-drivers 8.33.6-r1 also locked up. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I always wanted a at NOSE JOB!! visi.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
James, On Tuesday 20 February 2007 15:46, James wrote: Peter Lewis prlewis at letterboxes.org writes: No, I didn't mean it as a criticism anyway. I just find that it helps to assume the best on mailing lists. It all helps for a happy community. Dear Pompous Jerks: Are you including me in that? If you read what I wrote, you will find that I was indeed advocating the use of the mailing list for people to ask for advice / experiences, rather than flaming someone for not using Google. I too am surprised by the lack of civility on this and other Gentoo mailing lists sometimes. This is something which can only put people off asking for help on them. The arrogance of these responses is astounding. Does anyone believe in civility any more? If google is so wonderful, and all of the aforementioned geniuses so bright, how did you guys miss the most glaring response of all? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap-userguide.xml Quite. I know very little about the topic which the OP was asking about, Gentoo solutions or otherwise. I was merely defending the guy's right to ask the question without being shot down for being lazy. After all, since he asked on a gentoo list, might we not all assume that he's inquiring about a gentoo_ish solution, without explicit statement thereof? You guys should be ashamed of your behavior. Just because somebody does not write a politically correct question, does not mean they don't need help. If you are not will to *HELP* then just ignore the email.. I could not agree more. Besides, Gentoo's greatest strength is the help the community provides to one another. Do you think this guy is now going to go to his friends and say hey checkout this firewall I found and set up with the help of the gentoo community? Like I said, I think this list could be a LOT friendlier. Just because someone is a Gentoo user does not mean that we can assume all sorts of knowledge and skills. They may well just be curious or like the thing. Pete. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] No more ASCII progress bar for Suspend2 hibernate
Hi, I have just done an emerge -uDNav world, and when I hibernate (suspend2) with the 'hibernate' script, it no longer displays the progress bar showing how long it will take to finish. I am using suspend2-sources-2.6.17-r6, and I have not re-compiled my kernel since the emerge. Its sources are still in /usr/src/. What handles drawing the progress bar, and what can I do to get it to work again? Please tell me if I need to post additional information. Thanks, Henk Boom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 15:46 +, James wrote: Dear Pompous Jerks: [...] Does anyone believe in civility any more? My apologies. And thanks for setting a standard that we all may follow. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No more ASCII progress bar for Suspend2 hibernate
Hello,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:44:21PM -0500, Henk Boom wrote:
Hi, I have just done an emerge -uDNav world, and when I hibernate
(suspend2) with the 'hibernate' script, it no longer displays the
progress bar showing how long it will take to finish. I am using
suspend2-sources-2.6.17-r6, and I have not re-compiled my kernel since
the emerge. Its sources are still in /usr/src/.
What handles drawing the progress bar, and what can I do to get it to
work again? Please tell me if I need to post additional information.
The thing is suspend2-userui. However, I personally recommend using
suspend version 1. It does not have all the drawings of progress and
contains less features, but less bugs as well (with the 2. version, I
had the feeling my computer is hunted). Besides, the second version is
huge in the amount of code in kernel.
And I do not know, what stopped working. Did you do any updates to your
hibernate script configs?
Have a nice day
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Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47:03 Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel module [ !! ] This looks strangely like dlm-kernel was compiled against the wrong kernel. Or that dlm-kernel doesn't have support for that kernel. Do you have a newer kernel installed than the one you are using? It very well might have built against it instead. This webpage is a bit dated, but shows steps to get GFS working under gentoo. https://open.datacore.ch/DCwiki.open/Wiki.jsp?page=GFS.Install They talk about a CONFIG_LOCK_DLM needing to be set in the kernel, but I think that is taken care of by the dlm-kernel module. You'll also need to make sure you have device-mapper installed. Can you give an update on what you've found and if you've made any progress? -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
James wrote: Besides, Gentoo's greatest strength is the help the community provides to one another. +1 I think the friendly, helpful attitude of the list is exactly as it should be - given that it's list aimed at providing help to all users. It would be ok to be a bit rougher on a 'gentoo-experts' or 'gentoo-grouches' list :-). Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple Linux Router on a live CD?
Mark Kirkwood wrote: given that it's list aimed at providing help to all users. Sorry - should read: given that it's *a* list aimed at providing help to all users. (I'm hoping for a grammar checker in Thunderbird) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo
On Tuesday 20 February 2007, Hans-Stefan Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] HP Cluster on Gentoo': Hallo, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schrieb: On Monday 19 February 2007 02:47, Hans-Stefan Bauer wrote: storm1 hsbauer # /etc/init.d/gfs start * Starting gfs cluster: * Loading lock_dlm kernel module ... FATAL: Error inserting lock_dlm (/fs/gfs_locking/lock_dlm/lock_dlm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) * Failed to load lock_dlm kernel module [ !! ] Check your kernel configuration, particularly the Distributed Lock Manager option, CONFIG_DLM. You may need that part of mainline so that your out-of-tree module works. Thank you for the fast answer. I looked into the file /usr/src/linux/.config. There is no variable CONFIG_DLM in it. Also with a make menuconfig I did not find a possibility to select it. Here's the search results against my running kernel (2.6.19-gentoo-r2). Symbol: DLM [=n] Prompt: Distributed Lock Manager (DLM) Defined at fs/dlm/Kconfig:4 Depends on: INET IP_SCTP EXPERIMENTAL (IPV6 || IPV6=n) Location: - File systems - Distributed Lock Manager Selects: CONFIGFS_FS Selected by: GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM BLOCK GFS2_FS I was unable to find it in my older kernel (2.6.18-gentoo), so perhaps a kernel upgrade could solve (part of) your issue. Of course, any out-of-tree modules will have to be compiled after you fix up your /usr/src/linux symlink. 'module-rebuild' can help with that. 2.6.19-gentoo-r2 also provides: Symbol: GFS2_FS_LOCKING_DLM [=n] Prompt: GFS2 DLM locking module Defined at fs/gfs2/Kconfig:34 Depends on: BLOCK GFS2_FS Location: - File systems - GFS2 file system support (GFS2_FS [=n]) Selects: DLM Which probably makes sys-cluster/gfs-kernel unecessary, too. Apart from the occurring problem it is strange for me that emerge installs the kernel module into the root directory of the system (see error message above) and not into /lib/modules/... as I would expect. Hrm, double-check (by looking at your filesystem) to make sure it's in the wrong place. If so, please file a bug, that behavior is broken. I redirected the output of an emerge into a file with the following command: I might look at this, but the easiest way to see if it's in the wrong location is just find it on the filesystem. (I don't trust the output of emerge all the time anyway -- some packages do stupid things like ignoring $ROOT and whotnot.) /cluster/dlm.ko Hrm, make sure this is modprobed before gfs tries to load lock_dlm. That might solve your issue without a kernel upgrade. In my first post, I didn't consider the fact that you have sys-cluster/dlm-kernel (which provides the out-of-tree dlm.ko) despite the fact that you mentioned it. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ New GPG Key! Old key expires 2007-03-25. Upgrade NOW! pgpH0FgcuHt9k.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems
Hi, I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains about needing virtual/glibc and using emerge depends suggests it really is needed but eix glibc doesn't show anything to emerge. Frankly I'm pretty confused about this one. What's the appropriate fix? Thanks, Mark gandalf ~ # emerge -pvDuN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB gandalf ~ # revdep-rebuild -p Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild Checking reverse dependencies... Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update will be emerged. Collecting system binaries and libraries... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files) Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath) Checking dynamic linking consistency... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild) Assigning files to ebuilds... Nothing to rebuild Evaluating package order... done. (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order) Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. gandalf ~ # emerge -p --depclean *** WARNING *** Depclean may break link level dependencies. Thus, it is *** WARNING *** recommended to use a tool such as `revdep-rebuild` (from *** WARNING *** app-portage/gentoolkit) in order to detect such breakage. *** WARNING *** *** WARNING *** Also study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious *** WARNING *** mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always *** WARNING *** be kept. They can be manually added to this set with *** WARNING *** `emerge --noreplace atom`. Packages that are listed in *** WARNING *** package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by *** WARNING *** depclean, even if they are part of the world set. *** WARNING *** *** WARNING *** As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages *** WARNING *** unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved. As a *** WARNING *** consequence, it is often necessary to run *** WARNING *** `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to depclean. Calculating dependencies... done! Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to the following required packages not being installed: =sys-apps/i2c-2.8.7 required by sys-apps/lm_sensors-2.8.7 virtual/glibc required by sys-libs/db-3.2.9-r2 media-libs/xvid-0.9.1 Have you forgotten to run `emerge --update --newuse --deep world` prior to depclean? It may also be necessary to manually uninstalled packages that no longer exist in the portage tree since it may not be possible to satisfy their dependencies. gandalf ~ # emerge -pv virtual/glibc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies / emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy virtual/glibc. gandalf ~ # eix virtual/glibc No matches found. gandalf ~ # eix glibc [I] sys-libs/glibc Available versions: (2.2) [P]2.2.5-r10 [P]2.3.2-r12 2.3.5-r2 2.3.5-r3 2.3.6-r4 2.3.6-r5 2.4-r4 2.5 Installed: 2.5(2.2)(11:53:04 02/17/07)(-build -glibc-compat20 -glibc-omitfp -hardened -multilib nls nptl nptlonly -profile -selinux) Homepage:http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/libc.html Description: GNU libc6 (also called glibc2) C library gandalf ~ # -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cryptic warning message x11-drivers:ati-drivers-8.32.5 build
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 10:13:36AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Rconfigure and recompile the kernel: make menuconfig - Device Drivers - Character Devices - Direct Rendering Manager make it a module. Or, you can just deselect it as the ati drivers provide their own drm implementation. If you leave the in-kernel version enabled as a module you will have to ensure that the drm module is not loaded when X starts Thanks for the explanation of the process. This is all documented by ATI in nice html format in an ati* directory in /usr/share/doc/ Not if I have -doc in my USE varg. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] loop devices not present
On Mon, Feb 19, 2007 at 12:35:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote Hi all, Kernel 2.6.20-gentoo My various /dev/loop/* devices used to always JustWork, until a recent update. Unfortunately I can't tell when the breakage happened. Right now what happens is I don't get these devices automatically and 'mount - o loop' fails. A simple 'modprobe loop' fixes this, the kernel is configured as I've been using it for ages: config-2.6.20-gentoo:CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m config-2.6.20-gentoo:CONFIG_KMOD=y Oddly, I never had 'loop' in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 before (I do now), anyone know of a recent change that would cause this? If you want loopback devices to just work, they should be compiled into the kernel, like so... make menuconfig Device Drivers --- Block devices --- * Loopback device support My guess is that somewhere along the line, the * got changed to a M. Change it back to *, recompile the kernel and any necessary modules, and reboot. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 My musings on technology and security at http://techsec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 02:04:12 Mark Knecht wrote: I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains about needing virtual/glibc and using emerge depends suggests it really is needed but eix glibc doesn't show anything to emerge. Frankly I'm pretty confused about this one. What's the appropriate fix? # emerge --with-bdeps=y -pvDNu -- Bo Andresen pgpm5mlHe6goG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 09:37:44AM +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote Well, yes, it may be faster a bit, like 1%, maybe 10%??? But if one distro would be unbearable slow, gentoo would be too. It won't just be faster 10 times, and yes, that 10% are nice, but not usually worth switching your distro. Sometimes improved speed can be a problem. See... http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-131884-highlight-xboing.html I ran into this with a 1999 model 450 mhz PIII Dell that I switched from Debian to Gentoo. On Debian it was nice-n-slow at speed level 1. In Gentoo, the ball flew right past me before I could move. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems
On 2/20/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 02:04:12 Mark Knecht wrote: I'm facing a few last problems as I clean this machine up. The machine is completely sync'ed and emerged. revdep-rebuild tells me things are cool but then --depclean complains about needing virtual/glibc and using emerge depends suggests it really is needed but eix glibc doesn't show anything to emerge. Frankly I'm pretty confused about this one. What's the appropriate fix? # emerge --with-bdeps=y -pvDNu -- Bo Andresen Hi Bo, Thanks for responding. I didn't know about that option or the difference between how it's used for --depclean. Thanks. I solved the lm_sensors one before your response came back. Unfortunately --with-bdeps=y doesn't seem to identify anything new to emerge. I don't see how it could if I don't see virtual/glibc in portage: gandalf ~ # emerge --with-bdeps=y -pvDNu world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB gandalf ~ # eix =virtual/glibc No matches found. gandalf ~ # I must be doing something wrong here. Is the need for this virtual package caused by some USE option on something else like glibc itself? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 03:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for responding. I didn't know about that option or the difference between how it's used for --depclean. Thanks. I solved the lm_sensors one before your response came back. Unfortunately --with-bdeps=y doesn't seem to identify anything new to emerge. I don't see how it could if I don't see virtual/glibc in portage: gandalf ~ # emerge --with-bdeps=y -pvDNu world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB gandalf ~ # eix =virtual/glibc No matches found. gandalf ~ # I must be doing something wrong here. Is the need for this virtual package caused by some USE option on something else like glibc itself? Was just a guess, heh. virtual/glibc was changed to virtual/libc 2½ years ago. Since sys-libs/db-3.2.9-r2 and media-libs/xvid-0.9.1 are no longer in the tree portage are using their ancient/obsolete deps on virtual/glibc which it cannot satisfy. Had they been in the tree portage would use their updated deps from the tree. I'm guessing nothing in world depends on them (or in the case of db on that slot) so they probably can just be unmerged (and would be if --depclean wasn't taking so many precautions)... Otherwise I reckon at least xvid should be updated to a newer version. The safe route, however, would probably be: `emerge --oneshot sys-libs/db:3 media-libs/xvid`. -- Bo Andresen pgpYlQXhAa5U8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 13:43:08 Konstantin Budylov wrote: This error appears in my Xorg.0.log at boot time: (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file ordirectory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering And It seems that 3D rendering is exists, but I think that something wrong in it, because FPS (I think so) is too slow ( about 240 ) and I have some strange errors in multimedia drivers (e.g. mplayer fails on playing DVD with 'opengl' driver, and any other drivers is generally fails with message about can't open vo device ). I think it consequence of AIGLX error but even if it's not, a want to fix this error anyway I use x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.27.10-r1 and x11-base/xorg-x11-7.1 on gentoo-sources-2.6.17-r8 [SNIP] Can anybody help me? Please provide the output of: # equery check ati-drivers # equery files ati-drivers | egrep dri|env # env | grep LIBGL # eselect opengl list -- Bo Andresen pgpSa8BJLwctr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean and virtual/glibc problems
On 2/20/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 21 February 2007 03:47:05 Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks for responding. I didn't know about that option or the difference between how it's used for --depclean. Thanks. I solved the lm_sensors one before your response came back. Unfortunately --with-bdeps=y doesn't seem to identify anything new to emerge. I don't see how it could if I don't see virtual/glibc in portage: gandalf ~ # emerge --with-bdeps=y -pvDNu world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB gandalf ~ # eix =virtual/glibc No matches found. gandalf ~ # I must be doing something wrong here. Is the need for this virtual package caused by some USE option on something else like glibc itself? Was just a guess, heh. virtual/glibc was changed to virtual/libc 2½ years ago. Since sys-libs/db-3.2.9-r2 and media-libs/xvid-0.9.1 are no longer in the tree portage are using their ancient/obsolete deps on virtual/glibc which it cannot satisfy. Had they been in the tree portage would use their updated deps from the tree. I'm guessing nothing in world depends on them (or in the case of db on that slot) so they probably can just be unmerged (and would be if --depclean wasn't taking so many precautions)... Otherwise I reckon at least xvid should be updated to a newer version. The safe route, however, would probably be: `emerge --oneshot sys-libs/db:3 media-libs/xvid`. -- Bo Andresen OK, thanks again. I see a big part of my problem, being a user type, is that I really don't understand slots at all, other than letting the system somehow have multiple versions of the same package for whatever reason. (Which is far beyond me!) Anyway, I did emerge -C on the offending packages and then emerge -pvDuN world and revdep-rebuild again to make sure everything was correct. All seems good. Now --depclean is working and I can clean up at the next level. The problems of administering a machine 350 miles away. It only happens once or twice a year and there's often a lot to learn and a lot to do. thanks again, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel randomly locking up, no error messeges, no panics nothing.
Ivan Lucian Aron wrote: I turned off Preempt Big Kernel Lock earlier today, and haven't had a deadlock/crash since. Apparently that solved it.. thanks for the help/support I have an AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+ and Have the Preempt Big Kernel Lock turned on in my 2.6.19 kernel and have experienced no problems. Don't know if that helps or hurts but just thought I'd let you know. Tony -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] loop devices not present
On Wednesday 21 February 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: If you want loopback devices to just work, they should be compiled into the kernel, like so... make menuconfig Device Drivers --- Block devices --- * Loopback device support My guess is that somewhere along the line, the * got changed to a M. Change it back to *, recompile the kernel and any necessary modules, and reboot. That would be true except I've beeen setting loop to M since many kernel versions back. I actually suspect it's more a udev thing, there has been a lot of activity and changes with the rules recently. But I'm too rushed to decrypt all the rules syntax and see what changed. In a way it makes sense to make udev not create loop devices by default. If the user didn't ask for them, they shouldn't be there (aka TheGentooWay). And 'loop' in kernel-2.6 fixes it all. Thanks for replying, alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
