Re: [gentoo-user] Synce and gentoo : crash RAPI driver
On 3/2/07, Arnaud FARINE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/2/07, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:55:33 +0100 Arnaud FARINE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday I worked late!! And it has worked! Hurray! Otherwise, what tools are you using to synchronize (if you had tested some products, perhaps are you a preference)? I use Kontact and my gentoo is installed with KDE. I'm in the lucky (ahem, e) situation to be forced to use an MS Exchange server at work for mails, contacts, calendar. The WM5 can synchronize directly to that server, so I'm not using any synchronization software, I just use the connection for the desktop-pass-through (forwarding an internet connection) and file transfer. But reading the last entries on the synce-windowsmobile5 mailing list, there seems to be big progress on synchronization with the KDE suite. I really suggest to read up on the february postings on that list, especially those by Dr J A Gow, who made tremendous efforts. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Ok best thanks ! -- Arnaud FARINE Grrr! I had a Palm and it was more simple to synchronize with linux! Palm I miss you !!! After installed all lib from subversion, when I try to emerge libopensync-plugin-synce (or I try to compile it directly from subversion) I obtain the same message when configure is running : can't find synce library !!! I find some synce lib in /usr/lib and /usr/local/lib I don't understand! Can you help me Regards -- Arnaud FARINE
[gentoo-user] Trouble with X.org and ati opensource drivers
Hello. I have xorg 7.2.0, KDE 3.5.6 and 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 kernel. My processor is athlon 1700, video card is radeon 9200se. I cannot use proprietary ati drivers, because my video card is no longer supported. So the problem is that xorg loads processor too much(about 20-30%). Also when I drag any window slowly with my mouse, It freezes for a little moment every N seconds. The same problem is when watching movies in mplayer - the picture freezes like the dragged window every N seconds. Any ideas? -- wbr Alex 'V' Fansky -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lilo and SW-RAID-boot-partition
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Greets, gentoo-users. I have a lilo-related problem and can't find a solution on the net, so I ask you for ideas. This box should boot from SW-RAID-1, and it has also already done that. After editing a label inside lilo.conf I issued lilo and got this: # /etc/lilo.conf menu-scheme=Wb:kw:Wb:Wb lba32 boot=/dev/md1 raid-extra-boot=/dev/hda,/dev/hdc change-rules reset read-only default=Gentoo timeout=5 #image=/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 #label=2.6.18-r6 #vga=0x314 #initrd=/boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.18-gentoo-r6 image=/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 label=Gentoo vga=0x314 initrd=/boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 # cat /etc/fstab /dev/md1/boot ext2noauto,noatime 1 2 /dev/md3/ ext3noatime 0 1 /dev/md2noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/md4/mnt/data ext3noatime 0 1 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 I think you might need a root=/dev/md3 inside the specification for 'Gentoo': image=/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 label=Gentoo vga=0x314 initrd=/boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/md3 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Dale wrote: Here is my question. What are the permissions supposed to be? I have it set to root:users right now. It was set to root:uucp which was not working. If someone has a modem and uses dial-up, can you reply with the output of ls -al /dev/ttyS* if you would. If anybody else knows the answer, that would be cool too. This machine *has* been used for dial-up (but is connected to DSL router now) $ ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 65 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 66 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 67 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS3 Oh, It had been a couple months since I rebooted, anybody know when this happened? How do you get udev to update after changing the rules, other than rebooting that is. :/ No sure on that (maybe look at udevcontrol)... Here's the relevant bit of my 50-udev.rules FWIW (which is default I think): $ grep ttyS /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules KERNEL==ttyS[0-9]*, NAME=%k, SYMLINK=tts/%n, GROUP=tty -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VirtualBox question
Am Sat, 3 Mar 2007 04:27:09 +0300 schrieb Roman Makurin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All! Is there any way to create a VirtualBox`s disk image of my current system ? I can`t find any obvious solution in user manual of VirtualBox. Thanks. create a dd image of your system and convert it with # vditool DD newdisk.vdi disk_dump. Hagen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lilo and SW-RAID-boot-partition
Mark Kirkwood schrieb: I think you might need a root=/dev/md3 inside the specification for 'Gentoo': image=/boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 label=Gentoo vga=0x314 initrd=/boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/md3 Thanks for that, but it didn't work. Same error as before. S -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] daylight savings time
Thanks everyone. I'll report back on the outcome on D-day (March 11). Roger -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] why does emerge libstdc++ want to install gcc-3.3.6-r1?
Hi, all,
I have 5 up-to-date gentoo machines, all of them running gcc-4.1.1-r3.
On 4 of them, emerging libstdc++ proceeds as one might expect, just
installing
the current version of libstdc++ for gcc-4.1.1. But the 5th machine does
something quite different. Why?
On the 5th machine emerge -pv libstdc++ gives this output:
[ebuild NS ] sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1 USE=fortran gcj gtk (-altivec)
-bootstrap -boundschecking -build -doc (-hardened) -ip28 -ip32r10k
(-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) -nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc
-test -vanilla 23,534 kB
[ebuild N] virtual/libstdc++-3.3 0 kB
Why should it install gcc-3.3.6-r1 for machine 5? That doesn't seem to
be necessary for
machines 1-4.
I've tried running emerge -pdv libstdc++ on all machines to get debug
info, hoping that it would
enlighten me, but it doesn't - perhaps that's my shortcoming rather than
emerge's... For what
it's worth, the first few lines of output from emerge -pdv libstdc++ on
the machine that wants to install gcc are:
myaction None
myopts {'--pretend': True, '--debug': True, '--verbose': True}
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies
Parent:None
Depstring: virtual/libstdc++
Priority: soft
Virtual Parent:virtual/libstdc++-3.3
Virtual Depstring: || ( =sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3* =sys-devel/gcc-3.3* )
Candidates: ['=sys-devel/gcc-3.3*', '=virtual/libstdc++-3.3']
ebuild: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1
and the first few lines from machines that don't want to install gcc are:
myaction None
myopts {'--pretend': True, '--debug': True, '--verbose': True}
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies
Parent:None
Depstring: sys-libs/libstdc++-v3
Priority: soft
Candidates: ['sys-libs/libstdc++-v3']
ebuild: sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.4
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Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dale wrote: Here is my question. What are the permissions supposed to be? I have it set to root:users right now. It was set to root:uucp which was not working. If someone has a modem and uses dial-up, can you reply with the output of ls -al /dev/ttyS* if you would. If anybody else knows the answer, that would be cool too. This machine *has* been used for dial-up (but is connected to DSL router now) $ ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 64 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 65 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 66 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root tty 4, 67 Mar 3 19:42 /dev/ttyS3 Oh, It had been a couple months since I rebooted, anybody know when this happened? How do you get udev to update after changing the rules, other than rebooting that is. :/ No sure on that (maybe look at udevcontrol)... Here's the relevant bit of my 50-udev.rules FWIW (which is default I think): $ grep ttyS /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules KERNEL==ttyS[0-9]*, NAME=%k, SYMLINK=tts/%n, GROUP=tty Thanks for the info. That seems to work for the UPS. I'll check on the modem in a bit. I'm not sure when or what changed the group though. I looked at the udevcontrol man page, I didn't see anything in there about restarting or reloading the rules. Surely they have a way to do that. I can't unplug and plug back up the serial port. Anybody else know how to reset udev?? Thanks again. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why does emerge libstdc++ want to install gcc-3.3.6-r1?
On Saturday 03 March 2007 16:16:50 John Blinka wrote: I have 5 up-to-date gentoo machines, all of them running gcc-4.1.1-r3. On 4 of them, emerging libstdc++ proceeds as one might expect, just installing the current version of libstdc++ for gcc-4.1.1. But the 5th machine does something quite different. Why? [SNIP] Virtual Parent:virtual/libstdc++-3.3 Virtual Depstring: || ( =sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3* =sys-devel/gcc-3.3* ) Candidates: ['=sys-devel/gcc-3.3*', '=virtual/libstdc++-3.3'] ebuild: sys-devel/gcc-3.3.6-r1 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161953 -- Bo Andresen pgpd9wvrzeV2C.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, I feel a need to override the default FEATURES configuration for one package (some kernel modules do not build with userpriv). However, I can not find anything like that in any gentoo manual. It would probably be something like package.features file, but that one does not work (quite expectable). Do I miss something, or I could as well start hacking portage? Thank you -- This email has not been checked by an antivirus system. No virus found. Michal vorner Vaner pgp0ETHjy3iGD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with X.org and ati opensource drivers
Alex Fansky ha scritto: Hello. I have xorg 7.2.0, KDE 3.5.6 and 2.6.19-gentoo-r4 kernel. My processor is athlon 1700, video card is radeon 9200se. I cannot use proprietary ati drivers, because my video card is no longer supported. So the problem is that xorg loads processor too much(about 20-30%). Also when I drag any window slowly with my mouse, It freezes for a little moment every N seconds. The same problem is when watching movies in mplayer - the picture freezes like the dragged window every N seconds. Any ideas? I have almost your hardware configuration (ati radeon9200se, amd duron 1800), however I'm running stable (xorg 7.1, kde 3.5.5), and I have no problems whatsoever (I'm even smoothly running aiglx+Beryl). Have you checked the xorg logs/the system messages for strange things? Did the problem occur when you switched to xorg 7.2? X use flags? Do you have composite enabled but no aiglx/compiz/beryl? I remember similar behaviour when I tried to use composite before the aiglx days. Is direct rendering working? Eventually use pastebin to post your xorg.conf, so that we can have a look. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] clamav-0.90.1 and config file
When I upgrade to clamav-0.90.1 from 0.88.7, which klamav-0.38 tells me to do, I can't update the database. I just get an error message conf file error which doesn't help me much. I've looked at the clamav conf file, but I can't tell if it has a problem or not. The same thing happens with 0.90.0. I followed the instructions in the emerge output to i. revdep-rebuild --library libclamav.so.1 (which rebuilt klamav) and to ii. /etc/init.d/clamd restart. When restarting clamd it complained about being unable to write to the log file (/var/log/clamav/clamd.log) because of the permissions. But even after changing the permissions to get rid of that problem I still get the config file error when I try to update the database with klamav Somebody on the forums has posted the same problem, but there's been no reply yet. I've downgraded back to 0.88.7 for the moment Anyone know what's going on? Thanks Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee CASEB ECIM Departamento de Ecologia, P. Universidad Catolica de Chile, Alameda 340, Santiago. CP 6513677 CHILE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%% -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
On Saturday 03 March 2007 17:46:30 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I feel a need to override the default FEATURES configuration for one package (some kernel modules do not build with userpriv). However, I can not find anything like that in any gentoo manual. It would probably be something like package.features file, but that one does not work (quite expectable). Do I miss something, or I could as well start hacking portage? The only way to disable userpriv on a per package basis is by adding RESTRICT=userpriv to the ebuild. If a package cannot work with userpriv that should be done by it's maintainer. So if needed file a bug against the packages in question... Any patch to change this will probably be rejected. -- Bo Andresen pgpbCJPX54XiX.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] A DNS question.
This isn't strictly a Gentoo question, but I'm setting up Gentoo box to be used as a secondary DNS server, plus some other duties, and I'm hoping there is a DNS wizard reading who can authoritatively answer my question. First off the machine has three network cards, one with a (DHCP) private IP (10.10.32.1) for talking to the local (Windows Domain) LAN. A second NIC with a (Manually configured) IP address (69.12.134.79) that is publicly registered (ns.debug1.com) as a secondary DNS for several domains. And the third NIC has a (Manually configured) private IP address (192.168.0.1) that will be used to sniff all traffic that crosses the DSL modem. Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? For example, in the scenario described above, assume the windows domain is named mydomain.lan, can I have 69.12.134.79 (NIC #2) resolve to ns.debug1.com as that is it's publicly registered name, while IP address 10.10.32.1 (NIC #1) resolves to gentoo.mydomain.lan? TIA Bob Young San Jose, CA. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:13:42PM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 17:46:30 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I feel a need to override the default FEATURES configuration for one package (some kernel modules do not build with userpriv). However, I can not find anything like that in any gentoo manual. It would probably be something like package.features file, but that one does not work (quite expectable). Do I miss something, or I could as well start hacking portage? The only way to disable userpriv on a per package basis is by adding RESTRICT=userpriv to the ebuild. If a package cannot work with userpriv that should be done by it's maintainer. So if needed file a bug against the packages in question... Any patch to change this will probably be rejected. OK, in this case maybe (the problematic was - sometimes - kqemu, and I could not find out when it compiled and when not). But there may be situations where this possibility could be used in some other ways. You may want nostrip for few packages only (need of debug symbols, and you do not want to have them for the whole system), or the make check fails for one package you critically need just now and have no other choice than to use it anyway. In my opinion, it should be possible to configure all the variables according to the package name. But in other words, if I want such functionality, I have to hack it in somehow. Or I will have a look at paladius, or how is that thing called (will test it in virtual machine first…) With regards -- Hello, this is an extension to the famous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? Michal vorner Vaner pgpXlDElfPxHh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:08:59PM -0600, Dale wrote Here is my question. What are the permissions supposed to be? I have it set to root:users right now. It was set to root:uucp which was not working. Did you try making your user a member of the uucp and dip groups? -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] clamav-0.90.1 and config file
Matthew R. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've downgraded back to 0.88.7 for the moment Anyone know what's going on? Clamav-0.90 changed the format of the config files such that every option has to have a value. This particular applies to boolean options which prior to 0.90 were set using just a keyword with no value. So make sure that you have updated your configuration files. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
On Saturday 03 March 2007 20:39:01 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote:
But there may be situations where this possibility could be used in some
other ways. You may want nostrip for few packages only (need of debug
symbols, and you do not want to have them for the whole system), or the
make check fails for one package you critically need just now and have
no other choice than to use it anyway.
In my opinion, it should be possible to configure all the variables
according to the package name.
The cases you've mentioned here (nostrip, splitdebug, test) are handled on the
bash side of portage which means disabling them in /etc/portage/bashrc on a
per package basis (or in /etc/portage/env/*) is possible.
# grep -C 1 env $(portageq portdir)/profiles/base/profile.bashrc
for conf in ${PN} ${PN}-${PV} ${PN}-${PV}-${PR}; do
[[ -r ${PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT}/etc/portage/env/${CATEGORY}/${conf} ]] \
. ${PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT}/etc/portage/env/${CATEGORY}/${conf}
done
So e.g this would work:
# mkdir -p /etc/portage/env/${CATEGORY}/ \
echo 'FEATURES=nostrip' /etc/portage/env/${CATEGORY}/${PN}`
FEATURES=userpriv, however, is handled on the python side and hence that won't
work. In order to persuade someone to change this you'll probably need a
better use case than -userpriv which ultimately should be either fixed or
restricted in the ebuild.
But in other words, if I want such functionality, I have to hack it in
somehow. Or I will have a look at paladius, or how is that thing called
(will test it in virtual machine first…)
eix can help you if even if you cannot spell... ;)
# eix --fuzzy paladius
[I] sys-apps/paludis
Available versions: (~)0.16.2 (~)0.18.1 (~)0.20.0 (~)0.20.1
Installed: 0.20.1 [...]
Homepage:http://paludis.pioto.org/
Description: paludis, the other package mangler
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Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 09:07:23PM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 20:39:01 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: But there may be situations where this possibility could be used in some other ways. You may want nostrip for few packages only (need of debug symbols, and you do not want to have them for the whole system), or the make check fails for one package you critically need just now and have no other choice than to use it anyway. In my opinion, it should be possible to configure all the variables according to the package name. The cases you've mentioned here (nostrip, splitdebug, test) are handled on the bash side of portage which means disabling them in /etc/portage/bashrc on a per package basis (or in /etc/portage/env/*) is possible. Ups, seems like I overlooked this nice file at all. It seems to be a really powerful tool :-). Sorry for not reading properly enough. FEATURES=userpriv, however, is handled on the python side and hence that won't work. In order to persuade someone to change this you'll probably need a better use case than -userpriv which ultimately should be either fixed or restricted in the ebuild. You are probably right. And no one will want to add some odd file that could configure any arbitrary variable according to a package just because it would look cool and would be consistent :D. (Or maybe it can be partly created by the bashrc thingie) Anyway, thank you very much. At last, I know a bit more now, and won't waste my time hacking something portage probably already has. -- Work with computer has 2 phases. First, computer waits for the user to tell it what to do, then the user waits for the computer to do it. Therefore, computer work consists mostly of waiting. Michal vorner Vaner pgpt4CBxqspkS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:17:52 -0800 Bob Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't strictly a Gentoo question, but I'm setting up Gentoo box to be used as a secondary DNS server, plus some other duties, and I'm hoping there is a DNS wizard reading who can authoritatively answer my question. First off the machine has three network cards, one with a (DHCP) private IP (10.10.32.1) for talking to the local (Windows Domain) LAN. A second NIC with a (Manually configured) IP address (69.12.134.79) that is publicly registered (ns.debug1.com) as a secondary DNS for several domains. And the third NIC has a (Manually configured) private IP address (192.168.0.1) that will be used to sniff all traffic that crosses the DSL modem. Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? For example, in the scenario described above, assume the windows domain is named mydomain.lan, can I have 69.12.134.79 (NIC #2) resolve to ns.debug1.com as that is it's publicly registered name, while IP address 10.10.32.1 (NIC #1) resolves to gentoo.mydomain.lan? TIA Bob Young San Jose, CA. If your question is whether you can use multiple names in DNS, I believe you can. However, Im not sure they all can be A records -- you might need to use CNAME records instead. Also, you may or may not need PTR records to the ip from the various names. Different ip addresses usually deserve/get their own name, and this is appropriate. IF you want to have all 3 ip addresses have the same hostname, that should be ok too, but whether that's a reasonable way of doing things is questionable. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] problem with X.org after kernel change
Hi, I want to switch from suspent2-sources to xen-sources. The suspend2-sources are 2.6.18-r1 and xen-sources are 2.6.16.28-r1 (btw I cannot find XEN section in 2.6.16.28-r2). Suspend2 kernel works fine to me, so I've installed xen-sources and did this to built it: 1) zcat /proc/config.gz .config 2) make oldconfig 3) make menuconfig #(following the Gentoo documentation and manula configuration for separated vmlinuz dom0/domU) 4) update grub config file Then I rebooted my laptop and boot XEN kernel. And there's my problem. When I boot only to command line environment everything is fine, but when I try to boot to X.org the start process of the X.org stopped at GDM loading. The screen stays white with login field, but that's all. There's not possible to switch to text console. The attachment shows the GDM state (sorry for the quality, but I've did it by my cell phone :-) ) When I try vanilla-sources (2.6.17.13) kernel, I got same result :-( Can someone point me to a solution? Thanks a lot Pat P.S. My graphics card is ATI Radeon M300 in IBM TP T43 and I'm using open source driver distributed with X.org. attachment: gdm.jpg
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards -- When eating an elephant take one bite at a time. -- Gen. C. Abrams Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpy27DlVLRZa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:04:59 +0100 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards on the contrary, there are good reasons to have more than one name for a single computer. For example, say I have a server 'zeus.mydomain' that also does mail. If I name the mailserver 'mail.mydomain' then I can CNAME that to zeus.mydomain via DNS, or I can just set mail.mydomain to the ip address of the second interface. Result - I can redirect my mail to mail.mydomain and it can go to whatever computer I desire, whether or not it has different names. 'zeus' is still listening under that name for other requests. If i use 'zeus' for heavy filesharing, I can still get good access over a non-saturated ethernet device on 'mail'. nevertheless, such a thing would really better be accomplished with ethernet bonding and CNAMEs in dns configuration. another, more reasonable situation might be a computer that routed a few subnets and also provided other services to a subnet or two. It might also have an external interface to the ISP, whose hostname on that network is not up to you. I don't want to use c-24-245-14-14 as the name for my internet gateway on the inside, do i? Similarly, on subnet A it might make perfect sense to call it 'gateway.a.domain' but perhaps such a computer -- another internet gateway, perhaps? already uses that name on subnet B. In that case, imight want to name the same computer router.b.domain since it routes traffic from b to a. make sense? correct me if i'm wrong ; ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Bob Young wrote: This isn't strictly a Gentoo question, but I'm setting up Gentoo box to be used as a secondary DNS server, plus some other duties, and I'm hoping there is a DNS wizard reading who can authoritatively answer my question. First off the machine has three network cards, one with a (DHCP) private IP (10.10.32.1) for talking to the local (Windows Domain) LAN. A second NIC with a (Manually configured) IP address (69.12.134.79) that is publicly registered (ns.debug1.com) as a secondary DNS for several domains. And the third NIC has a (Manually configured) private IP address (192.168.0.1) that will be used to sniff all traffic that crosses the DSL modem. Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? For example, in the scenario described above, assume the windows domain is named mydomain.lan, can I have 69.12.134.79 (NIC #2) resolve to ns.debug1.com as that is it's publicly registered name, while IP address 10.10.32.1 (NIC #1) resolves to gentoo.mydomain.lan? Given that 2 of your IP addresses are in RFC 1918 private IP space, it is a good thing not to have your public DNS name resolve to those IP addresses, as they should not be routable, and may be in use at amny other sites (and thus could resolve to a local address at those sites). Having multiple domain names, each pointing to a separate interface on one machine is certainly within the rules for DNS, and is very effective in certain situations. Some services (email especially) may need to be configured with a list of these DNS names are also the local server to operate correctly, but this should not be a huge burden. -- Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol Asking for technical help in newsgroups? Read this first: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X.org after kernel change
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:04:51 +0100 pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to switch from suspent2-sources to xen-sources. The suspend2-sources are 2.6.18-r1 and xen-sources are 2.6.16.28-r1 (btw I cannot find XEN section in 2.6.16.28-r2). Suspend2 kernel works fine to me, so I've installed xen-sources and did this to built it: 1) zcat /proc/config.gz .config 2) make oldconfig 3) make menuconfig #(following the Gentoo documentation and manula configuration for separated vmlinuz dom0/domU) 4) update grub config file Then I rebooted my laptop and boot XEN kernel. And there's my problem. When I boot only to command line environment everything is fine, but when I try to boot to X.org the start process of the X.org stopped at GDM loading. The screen stays white with login field, but that's all. There's not possible to switch to text console. The attachment shows the GDM state (sorry for the quality, but I've did it by my cell phone :-) ) When I try vanilla-sources (2.6.17.13) kernel, I got same result :-( Can someone point me to a solution? Thanks a lot Pat P.S. My graphics card is ATI Radeon M300 in IBM TP T43 and I'm using open source driver distributed with X.org. If i were you i'd look into re-merging x11. that should sync it up with whatever kernel version's in /usr/src/linux. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X.org after kernel change
pat ha scritto: Can someone point me to a solution? what do the xorg logs and kernel logs say? m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with X.org and ati opensource drivers
В сообщении от Saturday 03 March 2007 20:36:08 b.n. написал(а): I have almost your hardware configuration (ati radeon9200se, amd duron 1800), however I'm running stable (xorg 7.1, kde 3.5.5), and I have no problems whatsoever (I'm even smoothly running aiglx+Beryl). Have you checked the xorg logs/the system messages for strange things? Did the problem occur when you switched to xorg 7.2? X use flags? Do you have composite enabled but no aiglx/compiz/beryl? I remember similar behaviour when I tried to use composite before the aiglx days. Is direct rendering working? Eventually use pastebin to post your xorg.conf, so that we can have a look. m. Well, I used aiglx+Beryl and everything worked fine on xorg 7.2. But after kernel upgrade I got this problem(I didn't forget to reemerge x11-drm). Yes, direct rendering is working. Composite and aiglx are enabled too, I tried to disable them, but it gave no result. I even tried to disable direct rendering(dri,drm,glx modules in xorg.conf) but also without result. Here is my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/892943 lsmod output: diablo diablo # lsmod Module Size Used by iptable_filter 3456 0 ip_tables 13668 1 iptable_filter x_tables 13188 1 ip_tables snd_pcm_oss41632 0 snd_mixer_oss 16128 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss32128 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7424 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq50896 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq_device 7564 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq radeon116512 2 drm74136 3 radeon fuse 40340 0 snd_intel8x0 30108 1 snd_ac97_codec 96160 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_bus3072 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm72196 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec snd_timer 20228 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd46692 9 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 7392 2 snd snd_page_alloc 8968 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm radeonfb 106560 0 fb_ddc 3200 1 radeonfb nvidia_agp 7708 1 agpgart27852 2 drm,nvidia_agp Thank you for your help. -- wbr Alex 'V' Fansky pgpcmLjKK0qFk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 03:21:52PM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:04:59 +0100 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards on the contrary, there are good reasons to have more than one name for a single computer. For example, say I have a server 'zeus.mydomain' that also does mail. If I name the mailserver 'mail.mydomain' then I can CNAME that to zeus.mydomain via DNS, or I can just set mail.mydomain to the ip address of the second interface. Result - I can redirect my mail to mail.mydomain and it can go to whatever computer I desire, whether or not it has different names. 'zeus' is still listening under that name for other requests. If i use 'zeus' for heavy filesharing, I can still get good access over a non-saturated ethernet device on 'mail'. Well, this is something else - the computer knows itself as zeus and has nicknames. However, if I got what the question was about - to be name1 for one card and name2 for the second - and do not appear as name2 on the first at all. IMO machine should have the same base name to any domain it shows in - the one that it shows in bash command prompt. Then you can have additional names for the services and they can differ. But the name showed on the bash should probable be reachable (if possible) from any network it appears on. The situation shown here is probably odd (the names here are the only ones there, no additional ones or base ones). [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ]. The [ X ] is a machine, is a network and those C? are names of the machine on the net. Now, ping C1 on the middle machine. Should it ping itself on the right interface or look for the left computer? You should at last have something like: [ Name1 ] C1 C2 [ Name2 ] C1 C2 [ Name3 ] (even if Name2 could not be resolved by the DNS on the right network for example). And you can nickname Name2 as mail or ntp if it suits you. I hope I made myself clear and I apologize for the previous misunderstanding. Have a nice day -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp4iMiFJo3It.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:17:52 -0800 Bob Young wrote: This isn't strictly a Gentoo question, but I'm setting up Gentoo box to be used as a secondary DNS server, plus some other duties, and I'm hoping there is a DNS wizard reading who can authoritatively answer my question. First off the machine has three network cards, one with a (DHCP) private IP (10.10.32.1) for talking to the local (Windows Domain) LAN. A second NIC with a (Manually configured) IP address (69.12.134.79) that is publicly registered (ns.debug1.com) as a secondary DNS for several domains. And the third NIC has a (Manually configured) private IP address (192.168.0.1) that will be used to sniff all traffic that crosses the DSL modem. Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? For example, in the scenario described above, assume the windows domain is named mydomain.lan, can I have 69.12.134.79 (NIC #2) resolve to ns.debug1.com as that is it's publicly registered name, while IP address 10.10.32.1 (NIC #1) resolves to gentoo.mydomain.lan? TIA Bob Young San Jose, CA. H'lo Bob, I'm not a DNS wizard though (with help from friends) I have DNS running locally/publicly. While my environment is not exactly the same as what you describe, it has lots of similarities (which I realized as I wrote the description below) The DNS configuration has several zone files. One is for my 192.168.x.y LAN. A second is for osagesoftware.com. The third is for bogofilter.org. My LAN has multiple machines, with a variety of operating systems and distros. There are appropriate entries for each machine in the LAN zone file. FWIW, each machine has a static IP address. osagesoftware.com's zone file has multiple entries, i.e. www, ftp, mail, etc which all resolve to one machine. bogofilter.org's zone file also has multiple entries. The DNS machine has 2 NIC's - one for connecting to the LAN's switch and the other for connecting to the WAN (internet). The WAN card responds to two static IP addresses (one each for osagesoftware.com and bogofilter.org). HTH, David -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X.org after kernel change
b.n. wrote: pat ha scritto: Can someone point me to a solution? what do the xorg logs and kernel logs say? m. Problem is that when the GDM freezes, I havent change to get dmesg and where can I get X.org log. Is there a way how to save them before next boot (excluding boot from CD)? Pat -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble with X.org and ati opensource drivers
Alex Fansky ha scritto: Well, I used aiglx+Beryl and everything worked fine on xorg 7.2. But after kernel upgrade I got this problem(I didn't forget to reemerge x11-drm). Ok, so it's the new kernel fault (I'm running 2.6.18, in fact). It wasn't so clear for me from the previous post, sorry. My lsmod looks different from yours in (maybe) relevant entries: spca5xx 646544 0 vmnet 24748 15 vmmon 163724 0 radeon100320 3 drm63444 4 radeon radeonfb 94400 0 fb 45160 1 radeonfb i2c_algo_bit8840 1 radeonfb cfbcopyarea 3968 1 radeonfb cfbimgblt 3328 1 radeonfb cfbfillrect 4032 1 radeonfb i2c_core 20800 2 radeonfb,i2c_algo_bit ehci_hcd 27208 0 sis_agp 8772 1 agpgart30732 2 drm,sis_agp but I don't know exactly what do they mean. Here is my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/892943 I found nothing suspect. Only significant differences with mine are: - I don't have the RENDER extension enabled - I have some optimizations in the Device section: Section Device #VideoRam131072 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate Identifier ** ATI Radeon (generic) [radeon] Driver radeon Option AccelMethod XAA Option AGPMode 8 Option AGPFastWrite 1 Option BackingStore true Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true Option DRI true Option GARTSize 64 Option EnablePageFlip 1 Option ColorTiling 1 EndSection however if it was all working perfectly before, I don't think this would make a difference... In the meantime a double check of your old vs new kernel configs seems the best way to go (and also a look on gentoo bugzilla, of course). I fear I can't tell you much more. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] glibc update 2.4 2.5 FAILED postinst causes everything to segfault
Hi,
Before I file this as a bug I'd like to make sure it's not caused by
something wrong with my system. Please help me determine that.
In the past two days I was trying to upgrade my glibc from version 2.4
to 2.5. Each time I tried it the emerge process failed at the very
last point - I think when the actual files were being installed into
my system. Here is the relevant output:
$ emerge -av glibc
...
/lib64/libnss_nis.so.2 - libnss_nis-2.5.so
/lib64/libm.so.6 - libm-2.5.so
/lib64/libnss_files.so.2 - libnss_files-2.5.so
/lib64/libresolv.so.2 - libresolv-2.5.so
/lib64/libnsl.so.1 - libnsl-2.5.so
/lib64/libutil.so.1 - libutil-2.5.so
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 - ld-2.5.so
/lib64/libcidn.so.1 - libcidn-2.5.so
/lib64/libBrokenLocale.so.1 - libBrokenLocale-2.5.so
!!! FAILED postinst: 2816
I couldn't find what that error means.
What happens after this is pretty nasty. Any program that I run segfaults:
# ls
Segmentation fault
I can't even chroot into the system with a live cd anymore. The only
fix I found was to untar the saved binary archive onto my system's
root with the help of a live cd. Then I can unmerge glibc-2.5 and my
system seems to function without problems.
I've checked that my system doesn't have any other dependency issues
with revdep-rebuild.
Here is more info about my system:
# emerge --info
Portage 2.1.2-r9 (default-linux/amd64/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r4,
2.6.17-gentoo-r8 x86_64)
=
System uname: 2.6.17-gentoo-r8 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
Timestamp of tree: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:20:01 +
ccache version 2.4 [enabled]
dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.30
dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4
dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5
dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r6
sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61
sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10
sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14
sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22
virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r2
ABI=amd64
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64
ALSA_CARDS=ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci
emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0
intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci
ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty
extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw
multi null plug rate route share shm softvol
ANT_HOME=/usr/share/ant-core
ARCH=amd64
ASFLAGS_x86=--32
AUTOCLEAN=yes
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CCACHE_SIZE=4G
CDEFINE_amd64=__x86_64__
CDEFINE_x86=__i386__
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -O2
CFLAGS_x86=-m32 -L/emul/linux/x86/lib -L/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CHOST_amd64=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CHOST_x86=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CLASSPATH=.
CLEAN_DELAY=5
CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config
/usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf
/etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo
/etc/texmf/web2c
CVS_RSH=ssh
CXXFLAGS=-march=k8 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -O2
DEFAULT_ABI=amd64
DISPLAY=:0.0
DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles
EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim
ELIBC=glibc
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=-v
EMERGE_WARNING_DELAY=10
FEATURES=autoconfig buildpkg ccache distcc distlocks
metadata-transfer parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict
FETCHCOMMAND=/usr/bin/wget -t 5 -T 60 --passive-ftp -P ${DISTDIR} ${URI}
GCC_SPECS=
GDK_USE_XFT=1
GENERATION=2
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo/
http://gentoo.gg3.net/ http://ftp.gentoo.or.kr/
http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp;
GUILE_LOAD_PATH=/usr/share/guile/1.6
G_BROKEN_FILENAMES=1
G_FILENAME_ENCODING=UTF-8
HISTFILESIZE=10
HISTSIZE=10
HISTTIMEFORMAT=%c
HOME=/root
INFOPATH=/usr/share/info:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.16.1/info:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/info:/usr/share/info/emacs-21
INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse
JAVAC=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm/bin/javac
JAVA_HOME=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm
JDK_HOME=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm
KDEDIRS=/usr/kde/3.5:/usr:/usr/local:/usr/kde/3.5:/usr:/usr/local
KERNEL=linux
LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb
ncurses text
LDFLAGS_x86=-m elf_i386 -L/emul/linux/x86/lib -L/emul/linux/x86/usr/lib
LESS=-R -M --shift 5
LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s
LIBDIR_amd64=lib64
LIBDIR_x86=lib32
LOGNAME=root
MAKEOPTS=-j2
MANPATH=/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.16.1/man:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/man:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/man:/etc/java-config/system-vm/man/:/usr/qt/3/doc/man:/usr/qt/3/doc/man:/opt/vmware/server/man
MULTILIB_ABIS=amd64 x86
MULTILIB_STRICT_DENY=64-bit.*shared object
MULTILIB_STRICT_DIRS=/lib /usr/lib /usr/kde/*/lib /usr/qt/*/lib /usr/X11R6/lib
[gentoo-user] compile errors when emerging kdelib-3.5.5-r8
Hi all, I did some upgrades and I guess I screwed something up cos I can't compile kdelib anymore. I tried with kdelib-3.5.6 as well but seems like the same problem. Dependencies showed I should have done qt-3.3.6-r4 and to be on the safe side I unmerged qt-4.2.2 (which I emerged unintentionally). Also I had trouble with glibc-2.5 that made me do gcc to 4.4.1-r3 and gcc-config as well. last operation before errors is linking libartskde.la and then a shower of undefs. Therefore my current state: qt-3.3.6-r4 gcc-4.4.1-r3 glibc-2.5 gcc-config is set to: [11] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 * taken from the emerge logfile. bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -o libartskde.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/kde/3.5/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/lib -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined -version-info 3:0:2 artskde.lo kioinputstream_impl.lo kplayobject.lo kplayobjectfactory.lo kartsfloatwatch.lo kartsdispatcher.lo kaudiorecordstream.lo kaudioplaystream.lo kartsserver.lo kdatarequest_impl.lo kaudioconverter.lo kvideowidget.lo kplayobjectcreator.lo kaudiomanagerplay.lo ../../kio/libkio.la -lqtmcop -lsoundserver_idl .libs/artskde.o: In function `Arts::KIOInputStream_base::_fromReference(Arts::ObjectReference, bool)': artskde.cc:(.text+0x1980): undefined reference to `std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar ::_Rep::_S_empty_rep_storage' artskde.cc:(.text+0x1a7c): undefined reference to `std::basic_stringchar, std::char_traitschar, std::allocatorchar ::_Rep::_S_empty_rep_storage' artskde.cc:(.text+0x1ad3): undefined reference to `__gnu_cxx::__exchange_and_add(int volatile*, int)' artskde.cc:(.text+0x1b03): undefined reference to `__gnu_cxx::__exchange_and_add(int volatile*, int)' .libs/artskde.o: In function `Arts::KFloatWatchProxy::_Creator()': -- Thanks. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 7657645 Fax:+972 77 7657645 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.N Merom Hagalil 13802 Israel Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why does emerge libstdc++ want to install gcc-3.3.6-r1?
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: [SNIP] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161953 Thanks for the pointer. That helped me solve the problem. Not elegantly, but adequately. John Blinka -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 04:08:59PM -0600, Dale wrote Here is my question. What are the permissions supposed to be? I have it set to root:users right now. It was set to root:uucp which was not working. Did you try making your user a member of the uucp and dip groups? Well, to be honest, I'm not even sure what uucp group is, dip either. I never heard of that one. I get the tty one though. It's the terminal. LOL I suspect something changed with the grouping and I just didn't know it. It was likely one of those messages in a compile that went by and I didn't see it. It may be for the better, mor secure or something, but I just missed it. Now that you mention it, I think I have to be a member of that group to be able to fax too. May give that a try. May fix two things. Thanks for the info. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with X.org after kernel change
В сообщении от Sunday 04 March 2007 00:25:10 pat написал(а): Problem is that when the GDM freezes, I havent change to get dmesg and where can I get X.org log. Is there a way how to save them before next boot (excluding boot from CD)? Pat try single option in the your boot loader -- wbr Alex 'V' Fansky pgpKyhMc4pHSi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On 4/03/2007 8:43 AM, Paul Colquhoun wrote: On Sun, 4 Mar 2007, Bob Young wrote: This isn't strictly a Gentoo question, but I'm setting up Gentoo box to be used as a secondary DNS server, plus some other duties, and I'm hoping there is a DNS wizard reading who can authoritatively answer my question. First off the machine has three network cards, one with a (DHCP) private IP (10.10.32.1) for talking to the local (Windows Domain) LAN. A second NIC with a (Manually configured) IP address (69.12.134.79) that is publicly registered (ns.debug1.com) as a secondary DNS for several domains. And the third NIC has a (Manually configured) private IP address (192.168.0.1) that will be used to sniff all traffic that crosses the DSL modem. Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? For example, in the scenario described above, assume the windows domain is named mydomain.lan, can I have 69.12.134.79 (NIC #2) resolve to ns.debug1.com as that is it's publicly registered name, while IP address 10.10.32.1 (NIC #1) resolves to gentoo.mydomain.lan? Given that 2 of your IP addresses are in RFC 1918 private IP space, it is a good thing not to have your public DNS name resolve to those IP addresses, as they should not be routable, and may be in use at amny other sites (and thus could resolve to a local address at those sites). That's exactly what named views are for. You can have clients on one IP range resolve to entirely different IP addresses than those on the outside: http://www.isc.org/sw/bind/arm94/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#view_statement_grammar I have been using bind views in that way for the last 2 years or so so that my internal DNS looks different to that seen on the Internet, the feature works exactly as documented and it's fairly easy to set up. That way there is no need to ever have hosts resolve to private RFC 1918 IP addresses from the Internet. Reuben -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
On Saturday 03 March 2007 23:37, Dale wrote: I suspect something changed with the grouping and I just didn't know it. It was likely one of those messages in a compile that went by and I didn't see it. It may be for the better, mor secure or something, but I just missed it. Now that you mention it, I think I have to be a member of that group to be able to fax too. May give that a try. May fix two things. Thanks for the info. Hmm, this is what I am getting on a x86 build. # ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS3 BTW, I am a member of the uucp group, but can't remember if I ever added myself to it manually: uucp:x:14:uucp,michael -- Regards, Mick pgpNiNmKn42mi.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
I appreciate all the replies, and yes Michael you're correct the original question was in regards to a system having different base (host) names for different NICs. IOW the Windows Domain Controller that eth0 is connected to records eth0 in it's DNS table as gentoo.windowsdoman.local. In addition in /etc/make.conf the the following is declared: eth0_dns_domainname=windowsdomain.local and eth0_nis_domainname=windowsdomain no nis or dns domainname is declared for eth1 or eth2 as that causes problems. I'll probably also configure BIND to act as a secondary DNS for the domain controller listing on eth0 and eth1. Now with regards to eth1, it is my intent to configure eth1 as with the machines only public IP address (69.12.134.79), and configure BIND to listen on eth1 as a secondary domain name server, the primary domain name server would have an A Record for 69.12.134.79 and it would be named ns.somedomainname.com. IOW it would have a different base name (ns) than eth0 (gentoo). My question is whether or not this is valid/legal/okay, i.e. is it likely to cause any problems? I did see Ruben's comment about named views and it looks like that may be something to investigate. Any further comments/suggestions welcome. Thanks, Bob Young San Jose, CA -Original Message- From: Michal 'vorner' Vaner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 2:17 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question. On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 03:21:52PM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:04:59 +0100 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards on the contrary, there are good reasons to have more than one name for a single computer. For example, say I have a server 'zeus.mydomain' that also does mail. If I name the mailserver 'mail.mydomain' then I can CNAME that to zeus.mydomain via DNS, or I can just set mail.mydomain to the ip address of the second interface. Result - I can redirect my mail to mail.mydomain and it can go to whatever computer I desire, whether or not it has different names. 'zeus' is still listening under that name for other requests. If i use 'zeus' for heavy filesharing, I can still get good access over a non-saturated ethernet device on 'mail'. Well, this is something else - the computer knows itself as zeus and has nicknames. However, if I got what the question was about - to be name1 for one card and name2 for the second - and do not appear as name2 on the first at all. IMO machine should have the same base name to any domain it shows in - the one that it shows in bash command prompt. Then you can have additional names for the services and they can differ. But the name showed on the bash should probable be reachable (if possible) from any network it appears on. The situation shown here is probably odd (the names here are the only ones there, no additional ones or base ones). [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ]. The [ X ] is a machine, is a network and those C? are names of the machine on the net. Now, ping C1 on the middle machine. Should it ping itself on the right interface or look for the left computer? You should at last have something like: [ Name1 ] C1 C2 [ Name2 ] C1 C2 [ Name3 ] (even if Name2 could not be resolved by the DNS on the right network for example). And you can nickname Name2 as mail or ntp if it suits you. I hope I made myself clear and I apologize for the previous misunderstanding. Have a nice day -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Mick wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 23:37, Dale wrote: I suspect something changed with the grouping and I just didn't know it. It was likely one of those messages in a compile that went by and I didn't see it. It may be for the better, mor secure or something, but I just missed it. Now that you mention it, I think I have to be a member of that group to be able to fax too. May give that a try. May fix two things. Thanks for the info. Hmm, this is what I am getting on a x86 build. # ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS3 BTW, I am a member of the uucp group, but can't remember if I ever added myself to it manually: uucp:x:14:uucp,michael There have been a lot of changes lately. I think this is just one of them. I may just change it back to uucp and add myself to the group. I'm not sure about how that will affect my UPS that connects to the serial port though. It didn't like the uucp group either. We may be playing ring around the group here. :/ I still haven't tried the others though. I'm trying to give everyone a chance to reply and see what all options there are available. ;-) Thanks for the info. At least mine wasn't the only one that got changed. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967
Re: [gentoo-user] Beagle eating up Resources!! (BEagled-index-helper)
I am perturbed that beagle has grabbed 99% of CPU time. If I kill it, within 5 seconds another process is spawned, again grabbing 99%. I don't even USE beagle. Is it possible to unmerge it without affecting other programs? If I understand correctly, I have found the following to be quite good for indexing and rapid searching of defined directories: app-misc/glimpse As an added bonus, together with glimpse comes agrep or almost grep that can search like grep with a specified number of spelling errors. I will unmerge beagle just to see what will happen. Alan On 3/2/07, Roger Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Albert, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A good solution would be a tool that actually indexes files in the background, and perhaps automatically when a file is changed/added/removed. And not just text in files but also other kinds of metadata. And when I click that file/data/whatever it would be cool if it automagically opened the appropriate viewer and took me to the exact location of what I am searching for. Pretty much a one-stop shop for searching my stuff. pinot (http://directory.fsf.org/pinot.html) may do what you want. It is not in portage but most of its dependencies are. Roger -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Alan Davis, Kagman High School, Saipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1-670-256-2043 I consider that the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it. Richard Stallman Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. - Thomas H. Huxley Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud. After a while, you realise the pig is enjoying it. -- Jamie Lawrence. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Hmm, this is what I am getting on a x86 build. # ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS3 BTW, I am a member of the uucp group, but can't remember if I ever added myself to it manually: uucp:x:14:uucp,michael There have been a lot of changes lately. I'm updating today, so will let you know if my /dev/ttyS* change group ownership thereafter. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Hmm, this is what I am getting on a x86 build. # ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS3 BTW, I am a member of the uucp group, but can't remember if I ever added myself to it manually: uucp:x:14:uucp,michael There have been a lot of changes lately. I'm updating today, so will let you know if my /dev/ttyS* change group ownership thereafter. Cheers Mark If you can, check to see if udev was upgraded and there was a notice that there are group changes. I would think udev would be what was changed. I'm curious to see your reply though. Thanks Dale :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Dale wrote: Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dale wrote: Mick wrote: Hmm, this is what I am getting on a x86 build. # ls -al /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 3 22:09 /dev/ttyS3 BTW, I am a member of the uucp group, but can't remember if I ever added myself to it manually: uucp:x:14:uucp,michael There have been a lot of changes lately. I'm updating today, so will let you know if my /dev/ttyS* change group ownership thereafter. If you can, check to see if udev was upgraded and there was a notice that there are group changes. I would think udev would be what was changed. I'm curious to see your reply though. Ok - here is the state after the emerge (recall group *was* tty): $ ls -l /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS3 and /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules has been updated in the emerge to make this ownership change: $ grep ttyS 50-udev.rules KERNEL==ttyS[0-9]*, NAME=%k, SYMLINK=tts/%n, GROUP=uucp, MODE=0660 I didn't see any notice, it just gets processed when doing etc-update. Probably worth eyeballing any changes to 50-udev.rules! So looks like you need to be in the uucp group to dial-up now. Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] TERM=Eterm unknown now?
I've just run into this after an emerge: Using Eterm 0.9.4 from a remote host to my Gentoo box: $ clear 'Eterm': unknown terminal type. I can work around this by amending .bash_profile to set TERM to 'xterm' if it is currently 'Eterm' - but I'm curious as to why or what has removed 'Eterm' from the termcap database (or similar). Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Serial modem and permissions problem.
Mark Kirkwood wrote: Dale wrote: If you can, check to see if udev was upgraded and there was a notice that there are group changes. I would think udev would be what was changed. I'm curious to see your reply though. Ok - here is the state after the emerge (recall group *was* tty): $ ls -l /dev/ttyS* crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 64 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 65 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS1 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 66 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS2 crw-rw 1 root uucp 4, 67 Mar 4 15:53 /dev/ttyS3 and /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules has been updated in the emerge to make this ownership change: $ grep ttyS 50-udev.rules KERNEL==ttyS[0-9]*, NAME=%k, SYMLINK=tts/%n, GROUP=uucp, MODE=0660 I didn't see any notice, it just gets processed when doing etc-update. Probably worth eyeballing any changes to 50-udev.rules! So looks like you need to be in the uucp group to dial-up now. Cheers Mark Hmmm, I wonder why that was changed? I did a google search for uucp and group and it was interesting. It seems this is the norm now. When I added fax to the search, it seems that will solve my problem of having to fax something as root instead of a user. ;-) Learn something every day. I just wonder about my UPS and how it is going to like this change. Add nut to the group to I guess. Well, now we know huh? Thanks for the help. I better watch the rules update next time. Dale :-) :-) :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/dalek1967 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
