RE: [gentoo-user] layman overlays
-Original Message- From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 March 2007 05:47 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] layman overlays Hi. I have a problem with the gnome-experimental layman overlay package -- where shold I write to get some help on this one? You could try asking here? Someone might be able to help. Alternatively try the Gentoo forums? -- djn I do not represent anyone else in emails I send to this list. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Back down to older version (emerge)
The few times I've tried backing down from current installed to older versions of something... I've had a problem getting the syntax right. According to man emerge and man portage this syntax should work: Either: emerge -vp =mail-mta/sendmail-8.13.7 or emerge -vp =mail-mta/sendmail-8.13.7 But in either case I get this output: = These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.0 USE=mbox sasl ssl tcpd -ipv6 -ldap -mailwrapper -nis -sockets 2,009 kB = 8.14.0 is what is currently installed: I'm unable to sendmail getting exit 127, following a recent update world. I'm attempting to find what has broken the setup. I did not allow the updated sendmail.cf or sendmail.mc to overwrite the existing ones and have restarted sendmail. Other possible culprits might be: dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.22-r2 sys-libs/pam-0.99.7.1 So cutting to the chase here; my real problem is not being able to sendmail, secondarily is how to back down a version with emerge. === Following below is the list of updated packages: * sys-apps/portage Sun Mar 18 10:24:29 2007 sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.2 Sun Mar 18 10:24:46 2007 sys-devel/gnuconfig-20070118 Sun Mar 18 10:25:16 2007 media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.14_rc3 Sun Mar 18 10:26:07 2007 sys-libs/timezone-data-2007c Sun Mar 18 10:26:16 2007 dev-db/mysql-init-scripts-1.2 Sun Mar 18 10:30:10 2007 app-portage/eix-0.9.1 Sun Mar 18 10:34:58 2007 sys-apps/busybox-1.4.1-r2 Sun Mar 18 10:35:30 2007 net-misc/dhcpcd-3.0.16 Sun Mar 18 10:35:48 2007 sys-apps/hdparm-6.9-r1 Sun Mar 18 10:36:22 2007 sys-apps/debianutils-2.17.5 Sun Mar 18 10:36:53 2007 sys-libs/libutempter-1.1.5 Sun Mar 18 10:38:12 2007 dev-libs/nspr-4.6.6 Sun Mar 18 10:39:36 2007 sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.20-r2 Sun Mar 18 10:46:04 2007 dev-libs/mpfr-2.2.1_p1 Sun Mar 18 10:48:40 2007 dev-libs/libpcre-7.0 Sun Mar 18 10:53:26 2007 dev-libs/nss-3.11.5 Sun Mar 18 10:53:59 2007 sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r8 Sun Mar 18 10:56:22 2007 media-libs/libart_lgpl-2.3.19-r1 Sun Mar 18 10:58:25 2007 net-misc/rsync-2.6.9-r2 Sun Mar 18 10:58:51 2007 net-misc/iputils-20070202 Sun Mar 18 10:59:37 2007 sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.7_pre5 Sun Mar 18 11:04:09 2007 app-shells/bash-3.2_p10 Sun Mar 18 11:04:28 2007 sys-apps/ed-0.4 Sun Mar 18 11:05:48 2007 sys-apps/man-1.6e-r3 Sun Mar 18 11:06:26 2007 x11-misc/xbindkeys-1.8.0 Sun Mar 18 11:09:17 2007 media-libs/freetype-2.3.2 Sun Mar 18 11:11:42 2007 media-libs/libpng-1.2.16 Sun Mar 18 11:12:10 2007 sys-apps/pciutils-2.2.4-r2 Sun Mar 18 11:14:48 2007 sys-apps/findutils-4.3.2-r1 Sun Mar 18 11:21:03 2007 app-text/poppler-0.5.4-r1 Sun Mar 18 11:22:10 2007 app-arch/gzip-1.3.11 Sun Mar 18 11:23:48 2007 sys-devel/flex-2.5.33-r2 Sun Mar 18 11:25:03 2007 sys-apps/net-tools-1.60-r13 Sun Mar 18 11:26:09 2007 sys-fs/udev-106-r4 Sun Mar 18 11:32:42 2007 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r3 Sun Mar 18 11:34:30 2007 sys-fs/fuse-2.6.3 Sun Mar 18 11:47:51 2007 sys-libs/db-4.5.20_p2 Sun Mar 18 11:49:15 2007 sys-libs/gdbm-1.8.3-r3 Sun Mar 18 11:51:31 2007 sys-apps/util-linux-2.12r-r6 Sun Mar 18 11:52:01 2007 dev-perl/Compress-Raw-Zlib-2.004 Sun Mar 18 11:52:25 2007 perl-core/DB_File-1.815 Sun Mar 18 11:52:54 2007 perl-core/Time-HiRes-1.97.07 Sun Mar 18 11:53:17 2007 perl-core/Test-Simple-0.67 Sun Mar 18 11:53:34 2007 dev-perl/Authen-SASL-2.10 Sun Mar 18 11:53:57 2007 dev-util/intltool-0.35.5 Sun Mar 18 11:54:09 2007 virtual/perl-DB_File-1.815 Sun Mar 18 11:54:18 2007 virtual/perl-Time-HiRes-1.97.07 Sun Mar 18 11:54:26 2007 virtual/perl-Test-Simple-0.67 Sun Mar 18 11:54:45 2007 perl-core/libnet-1.20 Sun Mar 18 11:57:32 2007 sys-devel/libtool-1.5.23b Sun Mar 18 11:58:15 2007 dev-perl/DBI-1.54 Sun Mar 18 11:58:36 2007 dev-perl/IO-Compress-Base-2.004 Sun Mar 18 11:58:45 2007 virtual/perl-libnet-1.20 Sun Mar 18 12:02:59 2007 x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 Sun Mar 18 12:04:52 2007 x11-libs/libXext-1.0.3 Sun Mar 18 12:09:12 2007 dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.2.4 Sun Mar 18 12:11:25 2007 media-libs/jpeg-6b-r8 Sun Mar 18 12:13:40 2007 dev-libs/libusb-0.1.12 Sun Mar 18 12:14:11 2007 x11-proto/inputproto-1.4.1 Sun Mar 18 12:14:42 2007 x11-proto/randrproto-1.2.1 Sun Mar 18 12:20:27 2007 media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.14_rc3 Sun Mar 18 12:20:48 2007 dev-perl/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.004 Sun Mar 18 12:23:16 2007 media-libs/libexif-0.6.13-r2 Sun Mar 18 12:24:38 2007 app-doc/xorg-docs-1.4 Sun Mar 18 12:30:32 2007 x11-libs/libXfont-1.2.7 Sun Mar 18 12:32:44 2007 dev-libs/apr-util-0.9.12-r1 Sun Mar 18 12:37:46 2007 sys-apps/dbus-1.0.2-r1 Sun Mar 18 12:39:49 2007
RE: [gentoo-user] layman overlays
on Thursday 03/22/2007 Nelson, David J([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
-Original Message-
From: John covici [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 March 2007 05:47
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] layman overlays
Hi. I have a problem with the gnome-experimental layman overlay
package -- where shold I write to get some help on this one?
You could try asking here? Someone might be able to help. Alternatively try
the Gentoo forums?
OK, what is happening is that I get the following when trying to
compile yelp:
checking which gecko to use... firefox
checking for compiler -fshort-wchar option... yes
checking whether to enable C++ RTTI... no
checking whether we have a gtk 2 gecko build... configure: error: This
program needs a gtk 2 gecko build
!!! Please attach the following file when filing a report to
bugs.gentoo.org:
!!!
/var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/yelp-2.18.0/work/yelp-2.18.0/config.log
!!! ERROR: gnome-extra/yelp-2.18.0 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1614: Called dyn_compile
ebuild.sh, line 971: Called qa_call 'src_compile'
environment, line 1716: Called src_compile
ebuild.sh, line 1304: Called gnome2_src_compile
gnome2.eclass, line 70: Called gnome2_src_configure
gnome2.eclass, line 66: Called econf '--enable-man'
'--enable-info' '--with-gecko=firefox'
ebuild.sh, line 577: Called die
!!! econf failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
!!! stack if relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at
!!! '/var/log/portage/gnome-extra:yelp-2.18.0:20070322-041220.log'.
!!! This ebuild is from an overlay:
'/usr/portage/local/layman/gnome-experimental'
and this is the last bit of the log
configure:24519: checking which gecko to use
configure:24550: result: firefox
configure:24637: checking for compiler -fshort-wchar option
configure:24657: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o conftest -O2 -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe
-fshort-wchar conftest.cc 5
configure:24660: $? = 0
configure:24662: ./conftest
configure:24665: $? = 0
configure:24679: result: yes
configure:24704: checking whether to enable C++ RTTI
configure:24713: result: no
configure:24739: checking whether we have a gtk 2 gecko build
configure:24763: i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -o conftest -O2 -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe
-I conftest.cc 5
i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: no input files
configure:24766: $? = 1
configure: program exited with status 1
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h. */
|
| #define PACKAGE_NAME Yelp
| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME yelp
| #define PACKAGE_VERSION 2.18.0
| #define PACKAGE_STRING Yelp 2.18.0
| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=yelp;
| #define PACKAGE yelp
| #define VERSION 2.18.0
| #ifdef __cplusplus
| extern C void std::exit (int) throw (); using std::exit;
| #endif
| #define STDC_HEADERS 1
| #define HAVE_SYS_TYPES_H 1
| #define HAVE_SYS_STAT_H 1
| #define HAVE_STDLIB_H 1
| #define HAVE_STRING_H 1
| #define HAVE_MEMORY_H 1
| #define HAVE_STRINGS_H 1
| #define HAVE_INTTYPES_H 1
| #define HAVE_STDINT_H 1
| #define HAVE_UNISTD_H 1
| #define HAVE_DLFCN_H 1
| #define GETTEXT_PACKAGE yelp
| #define HAVE_LOCALE_H 1
| #define HAVE_LC_MESSAGES 1
| #define HAVE_BIND_TEXTDOMAIN_CODESET 1
| #define HAVE_GETTEXT 1
| #define HAVE_DCGETTEXT 1
| #define ENABLE_NLS 1
| #define GNOMELOCALEDIR /usr/share/locale
| #define ENABLE_MAN 1
| #define ENABLE_INFO 1
| #define ENABLE_MAN_OR_INFO 1
| #define ENABLE_SEARCH 1
| #define HAVE_MOZILLA_TOOLKIT 1
| /* end confdefs.h. */
| #include mozilla-config.h
| #include string.h
| #include stdlib.h
| int main(void) {
| if (strcmp (MOZ_DEFAULT_TOOLKIT, gtk2) == 0 ||
| strcmp (MOZ_DEFAULT_TOOLKIT, cairo-gtk2) == 0)
| return EXIT_SUCCESS;
|
| return EXIT_FAILURE;
| }
|
configure:24780: error: This program needs a gtk 2 gecko build
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ac_cv_env_MOZILLA_COMPONENT_LIBS_set=
ac_cv_env_MOZILLA_COMPONENT_LIBS_value=
ac_cv_env_PKG_CONFIG_set=
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ac_cv_env_YELP_CFLAGS_set=
ac_cv_env_YELP_CFLAGS_value
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem failure
On Thursday 22 March 2007 05:37, Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 01:08:24AM -0400, Penguin Lover Willie Wong squawked: The root partition on my laptop just crapped out today. The kernel logs report a problem with reiserfs. Reiserfsck suggests --rebuild-tree, which AFAICT has a rather non-zero failure rate. So I am getting myself mentally prepped for the perhaps necessary re-install. You may find that a --fix-fixable does the trick and you don't have to re-install - this usually only works if you keep your fingers crossed at the same time. ;-) I would appreciate greatly if people can offer me some advice/caveats of any sort with regards to my plan. Let me be slightly more concrete. I plan to: download a stage3 tar ball unroll the tar ball on my ex-root partition (follow the handbook) chroot emerge --sync copy over my /etc from my backups rebuild toolchain mount my /var partition emerge -e world Is there any obvious flaws in that? The obvious flaw is that if the fs corruption is caused by hardware failure you may be back to square one in the near future. OTH it may just be the result of fs fragmentation because you keep your /usr/portage on the same partition as /. I guess you can try moving your /usr into a new partition and see how things evolve thereafter. Did I say make a back up? Good luck. -- Regards, Mick pgp0KOnh6UF4Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Back down to older version (emerge)
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:32:52 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The few times I've tried backing down from current installed to older versions of something... I've had a problem getting the syntax right. According to man emerge and man portage this syntax should work: Either: emerge -vp =mail-mta/sendmail-8.13.7 or emerge -vp =mail-mta/sendmail-8.13.7 This upgrades = means greater than or equal to, so it will install the latest available version. You want one of emerge -av =mail-mta/sendmail-8.13.7 to emerge a specific version, or emerge -av mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.0 to get the latest available 8.13 version. You can also make this change permanent by adding =mail-mta/sendmail-8.14.0 to /etc/portage.package.mask -- Neil Bothwick Suborbital Ballistic-Propulsion Engineer Not Exactly A Rocket Scientist signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] keyserv SIGSEGV
i've opened a bug http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171772
but several minutes later i've fixed my problem using this way:
1. took libmp.so.3 and mp.h from another (little older) working gentoo
machine
2. put it to /usr/lib and /usr/include on the problem machine
3. then i compiled previous release of nis-utils:
`emerge =net-nds/nis-utils-1.4.1-r1`
4. and voila! it has compiled and keyserv is working properly now.
but the main problem with keyserv in nis-utils-1.4.1-r2 still exists, so i
leave it on portage maintainer's responsibility :)
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, ooyh eah wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, ooyh eah wrote:
does anyone know how to solve this problem?
it's very important to me
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, ooyh eah wrote:
forget to show my make.conf:
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
MAKEOPTS=-j2
USE=nptl nptlonly -X -gnome -kde -gtk sse mmx 3dnow 3dnowex -ipv6 -fortran
-krb4 unicode
there's a strange problem with the keyserv from nis-utils package.
it doesn't start within the init.d script
and when i try to run keyserv manually it cores dump
i do everything as said: before nfs nfs-mount autofs and after portmap
but it seems not work anyway
i've tried to run keyserv on two different systems: amd64 (32bit version)
and PIV with hyperthreading. without any flags in make.conf at first
and then with standard ones. on both machines keyserv was unable to start
:(
what is my mistake?
moon ~ # keyserv -D
[Welcome to the Keyserver, version 1.4.1]
Segmentation fault
Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9
moon ~ # ls -al /etc/make.profile
/etc/make.profile - /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/x86/2006.1/server
moon ~ # equery list | grep nis
net-nds/nis-utils-1.4.1-r2
here's a gdb backtrace:
~ # gdb -c core /usr/sbin/keyserv
GNU gdb 6.6
Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you
are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain
conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for
details.
This GDB was configured as i686-pc-linux-gnu...
(no debugging symbols found)
Using host libthread_db library /lib/libthread_db.so.1.
warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6
Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for /lib/ld-linux.so.2
(no debugging symbols found)
Core was generated by `keyserv -D'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0 0xb7f8b1da in __gmpz_init_set_str () from /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3
(gdb) bt
#0 0xb7f8b1da in __gmpz_init_set_str () from /usr/lib/libgmp.so.3
#1 0x0804b013 in ?? ()
#2 0x in ?? ()
and here's a strace http://paste.org.ru/?asfoy2
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Re: [gentoo-user] layman overlays
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Talking about layman... Is anyone experiencing problems with it? I don't seem to be able to get a list of overlays, update, etc. I was using gfn just fine, and suddenly my mplayer started crashing again. I noticed it was the Gentoo Portage mplayer version, and not the gfn one installed. Any ideas? - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAmvQAlpOsGhXcE0RCu+cAJ0Wm2w/rN4Fsn6KK2y8KEBMNuJfNACfQsf0 Fnw6rLr9oDlhJjnvFzS/zyQ= =oOsU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Custom rsync command for emerge --sync?
Hello. On one of my systems, I'd like to use a custom rsync command when emerge --sync is to be used (I'd like rsync to use a SOCKS proxy and I'd like emerge to call socksify rsync instead of just rsync. For this, I'd write a tiny wrapper script). How do I tell emerge to use a custom rsync command? Thanks, Alexander -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem failure
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 08:42:35AM +, Penguin Lover Mick squawked: You may find that a --fix-fixable does the trick and you don't have to re-install - this usually only works if you keep your fingers crossed at the same time. ;-) I wasn't so lucky. :( So now I am re-installing system. (Argh, I started an emerge -e system at 4 in the morning, and I completely forgot to reset my /var/tmp to the symlink that I usually used. This morning I woke up to see that it stopped on the second package because I ran out of space on /var). Let me be slightly more concrete. I plan to: download a stage3 tar ball unroll the tar ball on my ex-root partition (follow the handbook) chroot emerge --sync copy over my /etc from my backups rebuild toolchain mount my /var partition emerge -e world Is there any obvious flaws in that? The obvious flaw is that if the fs corruption is caused by hardware failure you may be back to square one in the near future. OTH it may just be the result of fs fragmentation because you keep your /usr/portage on the same partition as /. I guess you can try moving your /usr into a new partition and see how things evolve thereafter. Did I say make a back up? Well, I hope not. I did run smartctl from the liveCD and the longtest didn't see anything wrong with the disc. The damage was all very localized to /. (in fact, /usr). It might have to do with a bump I gave the laptop: I was getting up to use the bathroom and in bringing the laptop from my lap to the coffee table, bumpped it on the armrest of my chair. I guess it could cause a hardware failure, but so far I am praying it isn't. On the other hand, my desktop has survived several guttings due to bad harddrives (once it was due to a flatmate who likes to slam his doors shut... the shock travels across the plaster wall, down my desk, and into my box), and I remember the symptoms of hardware failure to be not so quick acting and to have given different error messages. As to backups, I always keep backups of the data partition. I figured that whatever I can rebuild from the liveCD probably isn't worth the backup. I'll see whether this experience teaches me otherwise. Ah... and one flaw in my plan that I discovered: my /etc configs includes those for software I haven't yet rebuilt and those for stuff in system that has been revised many times since 2006.1. For example, after just copying over my backup /etc, I discovered I cannot log in. The liveCD uses pam and I use shadow and some files were overwrote. Good that I was logged in at another console (something I learned from experience... that when fixing a computer never to log out completely until you're sure you can get back in) and emerged shadow. Another example is that portage complained about the overlays that exists in my make.conf but not on my filesystem. W -- If it weren't for the last minute, nothing would ever get done. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 104 days, 11:57 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Custom rsync command for
Alexander Skwar listen at alexander.skwar.name writes: Hello. On one of my systems, I'd like to use a custom rsync command when emerge is to be used (I'd like rsync to use a SOCKS proxy and I'd like emerge to call socksify rsync instead of just rsync. For this, I'd write a tiny wrapper script). Hmm, well, it just occured to me, that I could run socksify emerge --sync instead of having emerge run socksify rsync. The net effect would be the same. But still, just for my curiosity: How do I tell emerge to use a custom rsync command? Cheers, Alexander -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problems with udev and network cards changing device name
Hi. Ive got a weird problem here and hoping someone can give me a solution, or point me to some docs that show how to resolve this. I have a system that I have built that I use as a base for all my other boxes. (think stage 4) I tar it up, boot the new box on a livecd, and untar it after mounting up the drive on /mnt/gentoo To tar it up, I boot on a live cd, mount the partitions as needed (root and boot) and then tar with cjpf the whole thing. Once ive set the bootloader up and rebooted, it moves the network cards from eth0 and eth1 to eth2 and eth3 (and its just moved them to eth4 and eth5 on a new installation!) What can I do to make sure it comes up as eth0 and eth1 each time? Im guessing its a udev problem, but could be anything else. udev version is - 104-r12 baselayout is version - 1.12.9 kernel is gentoo-sources 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 Many thanks for any help Jonathan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: rfc viewer
* Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-03-22 05:41] : Doesn't anyone know a good rfc viewer available for linux? 'rfcutil' seems to do the job ... * app-text/rfcutil Available versions: 3.2.3 Homepage: http://www.dewn.com/rfc/ Description: return all related RFCs based upon a number or a search string A simple 'eix rfc' was all to reveal that ;-) Greetz swimmer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with udev and network cards changing device name
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:56:43 +0800, Jonathan Gill wrote: To tar it up, I boot on a live cd, mount the partitions as needed (root and boot) and then tar with cjpf the whole thing. Once ive set the bootloader up and rebooted, it moves the network cards from eth0 and eth1 to eth2 and eth3 (and its just moved them to eth4 and eth5 on a new installation!) Delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules This associated network interfaces with MAC addresses, so the cards come up the same way each time. your problem is caused by the file on the new box containing the MAC addresses of the cards on the original box, so it creates two more. A similar thing happens if you replace a network card. Delete the file and it starts again at zero. -- Neil Bothwick Windows Error #05: Nonexisent error. This cannot really be happening signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] test
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Re: [gentoo-user] test
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[gentoo-user] [Way OT] Kernel Symlink use or not use?
hi @ all I considered switching to LFS a while ago as this would be the only Linux distribution fulfilling my requirements (besides Gentoo, of course). So when reading the LFS Book there was a warning saying Quote from LFS Book 6.2: Some kernel documentation recommends creating a symlink from /usr/src/linux pointing to the kernel source directory. This is specific to kernels prior to the 2.6 series and must not be created on an LFS system as it can cause problems for packages you may wish to build once your base LFS system is complete. The Gentoo Documentation however says: Quote from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml Gentoo requires that the /usr/src/linux symbolic link points to the sources of the kernel you are running. Quote from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Note: The above example assumes that /usr/src/linux symlink points to the kernel sources you want to use. Please ensure the same before proceeding. But the $KERNEL_DIR/README says: Quote from $KERNEL_DIR/README Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header files. They should match the library, and not get messed up by whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be. So after reading this I searched groups.google.com and the forums about this issue and found a different approach, which can be used instead of the /usr/src/linux symlink. It's as follows: In /etc/profile Set $KERNEL_DIR to /kernel/src/current (symlink) Set $KBUILD_OUTPUT to /dir/to/store/output/files So what's the best way and _why_? Does it even matter? Cheers, Jay -- Join Linuxfriendlyhardware.org project on irc.freenode.org#lfh (german) Registered Linux User #373457 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] flash sound?
esearch netscape-flash [ Results for search key : netscape-flash ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * net-www/netscape-flash Latest version available: 9.0.31.0 Latest version installed: 9.0.31.0 # chown root:audio /dev/dsp # ls -la /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 21 02:09 /dev/dsp - sound/dsp OK still should work then, but I get that anoying message about permissions when I start X and I can play mp3's with mplayer, I get no sound from .swf's as user. (I do as root) # ls -la /dev/sound total 0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel160 Mar 21 02:09 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 13660 Mar 22 14:34 .. crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 12 Mar 21 02:09 adsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Mar 21 02:09 audio crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Mar 21 02:09 dsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 0 Mar 21 02:09 mixer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 1 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 8 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer2 # cat /etc/group | grep audio audio::18:ernie,me,asleep OK I'm in the audio group (and wheel) What's going on? I'm using OSS -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] failed on stable packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I installed a stable x86 gentoo using my old amd64 world file. During world compiling the system failed on some packages (transcode,kth-krb, noatun-plugins). I think it is something correlated with my processor (an amd64), but I installed and rebuild all core packages as athlon-xp processor. How can I solve it? Thanks, Luigi These are the errors who I can see: app-crypt/kth-krb-1.2.2-r2 USE=ssl -afs [...] In file included from ./krb.h:366, from krb_locl.h:127, from kntoln.c:49: ./krb-protos.h:175: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:175: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want ./krb-protos.h:456: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:540: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:576: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:590: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I../../lib/roken -I../../lib/roken -DROKEN_RENAME -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/et -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wbad-function-cast -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -c -o krb_check_auth.lo `test -f 'krb_check_auth.c' || echo './'`krb_check_auth.c i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -std=gnu99 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -I../../lib/roken -I../../lib/roken -DROKEN_RENAME -I/usr/include -I/usr/include/et -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wbad-function-cast -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -c krb_check_auth.c -o krb_check_auth.o In file included from ./krb.h:366, from krb_locl.h:127, from krb_check_auth.c:35: ./krb-protos.h:175: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:175: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want ./krb-protos.h:456: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:540: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:576: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list ./krb-protos.h:590: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list krb_check_auth.c:55: warning: 'struct _ossl_old_des_ks_struct' declared inside parameter list krb_check_auth.c:56: error: conflicting types for 'krb_check_auth' ./krb-protos.h:175: error: previous declaration of 'krb_check_auth' was here krb_check_auth.c: In function 'krb_check_auth': krb_check_auth.c:61: warning: passing argument 3 of 'krb_rd_priv' from incompatible pointer type make[2]: *** [krb_check_auth.lo] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-crypt/kth-krb-1.2.2-r2/work/krb4-1.2.2/lib/krb' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-crypt/kth-krb-1.2.2-r2/work/krb4-1.2.2/lib' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.5 USE=arts kdeenablefinal sdl xinerama -berkdb -debug [...] make[3]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/kde-base/noatun-plugins-3.5.5/work/noatun-plugins-3.5.5/noatun-plugins/tippercanoe' /usr/qt/3/bin/moc ./synaescope.h -o synaescope.moc /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/kde/3.5/include -I/usr/qt/3/include -I. -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -c -o synaescope.lo synaescope.cpp creating noatuntippecanoe_bin.all_cpp.cpp ... i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/usr/kde/3.5/include -I/usr/qt/3/include -I. -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -march=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -c -o noatuntippecanoe_bin.all_cpp.o noatuntippecanoe_bin.all_cpp.cpp In file included from
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems with udev and network cards changing device name
Jonathan Gill wrote: Once ive set the bootloader up and rebooted, it moves the network cards from eth0 and eth1 to eth2 and eth3 (and its just moved them to eth4 and eth5 on a new installation!) What can I do to make sure it comes up as eth0 and eth1 each time? Delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. It increments the eth* device number whenever the mac address changes. I got stung by this on a VDS. ;) Be lucky, Neil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] KVM plans?
Are there plans to support KVM (http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki) in Gentoo with an ebuild for the userspace tools? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Custom rsync command for
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:35:49 + (UTC) Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar listen at alexander.skwar.name writes: [...] Hmm, well, it just occured to me, that I could run socksify emerge --sync instead of having emerge run socksify rsync. The net effect would be the same. But still, just for my curiosity: How do I tell emerge to use a custom rsync command? Quite frankly, I don't know any clean way. But you could of course just change the hard coded path to the rsync command in `/usr/bin/emerge'. It's in the `rsynccommand'-Variable. Actually, I first thought about creating an alias, but it seems that the bash part in emerge just affects the build system. [ I've just looked deep enough to see that it has nothing to do with rsync, so there might be more. ] Jan-Hendrik Zab -- | Jan-Hendrik Zab | +49 (0)1773392888 | http://www.v3ng34nce.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [Way OT] Kernel Symlink use or not use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi ! I think that the /usr/src/linux symlink is used in Gentoo by ebuilds (as vmware-modules for example) that build kernel modules for specific hardware which aren't yet in the kernel, and so needs to know the current kernel config to see if it match their dependencies or requirements. Regards. - -- Xavier Parizet Le Jeu 22 mars 2007 20:18, Jakob Buchgraber a écrit : hi @ all I considered switching to LFS a while ago as this would be the only Linux distribution fulfilling my requirements (besides Gentoo, of course). So when reading the LFS Book there was a warning saying Quote from LFS Book 6.2: Some kernel documentation recommends creating a symlink from /usr/src/linux pointing to the kernel source directory. This is specific to kernels prior to the 2.6 series and must not be created on an LFS system as it can cause problems for packages you may wish to build once your base LFS system is complete. The Gentoo Documentation however says: Quote from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml Gentoo requires that the /usr/src/linux symbolic link points to the sources of the kernel you are running. Quote from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml Note: The above example assumes that /usr/src/linux symlink points to the kernel sources you want to use. Please ensure the same before proceeding. But the $KERNEL_DIR/README says: Quote from $KERNEL_DIR/README Do NOT use the /usr/src/linux area! This area has a (usually incomplete) set of kernel headers that are used by the library header files. They should match the library, and not get messed up by whatever the kernel-du-jour happens to be. So after reading this I searched groups.google.com and the forums about this issue and found a different approach, which can be used instead of the /usr/src/linux symlink. It's as follows: In /etc/profile Set $KERNEL_DIR to /kernel/src/current (symlink) Set $KBUILD_OUTPUT to /dir/to/store/output/files So what's the best way and _why_? Does it even matter? Cheers, Jay -- Join Linuxfriendlyhardware.org project on irc.freenode.org#lfh (german) Registered Linux User #373457 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAuoFmSNaOeTZvg0RAooRAKCQ3iOaogJdttZJxMKvLl8dgDDxWQCfQEzf WCwduD7yo9HfTikRiSDljM8= =8aE7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KVM plans?
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 11:47 -0800, Christopher Granade wrote: Are there plans to support KVM (http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki) in Gentoo with an ebuild for the userspace tools? I was gonna ask if you had checked bugzilla, but I went ahead and did that for you: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157987 -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SquirrelMail GPG plugin make bad signature with my keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I use squirrelmail-1.4.9a with GPG plugin enabled (with gnupg-2.0.3 and the builtin gpg plugin). I don't know which information you need to check this problem, but you can check on this email if my GPG signature is good or bad. Thanks for advice ! --- Xavier Parizet http://www.linuxant.fr -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGAv8amSNaOeTZvg0RAsLEAJ9G/P4yhlVKQGPJlFM0mcetGeJ79ACgu9pI 8tc8Eyzei3eRuLzI5jANq84= =dPPx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] flash sound?
On Thursday 22 March 2007, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: esearch netscape-flash [ Results for search key : netscape-flash ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * net-www/netscape-flash Latest version available: 9.0.31.0 Latest version installed: 9.0.31.0 # chown root:audio /dev/dsp # ls -la /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 21 02:09 /dev/dsp - sound/dsp OK still should work then, but I get that anoying message about permissions when I start X and I can play mp3's with mplayer, I get no sound from .swf's as user. (I do as root) # ls -la /dev/sound total 0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel160 Mar 21 02:09 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 13660 Mar 22 14:34 .. crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 12 Mar 21 02:09 adsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Mar 21 02:09 audio crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Mar 21 02:09 dsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 0 Mar 21 02:09 mixer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 1 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 8 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer2 # cat /etc/group | grep audio audio::18:ernie,me,asleep OK I'm in the audio group (and wheel) What's going on? I'm using OSS OK now I see that flash 9 doesn't work with OSS. My ALSA hasn't worked since the nforce sound drivers were removed from portage. Can someone please point me to a source of info. -- Regards, Ernie -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] flash sound?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ernie Schroder wrote: OK now I see that flash 9 doesn't work with OSS. My ALSA hasn't worked since the nforce sound drivers were removed from portage. Can someone please point me to a source of info. Hey, I have an nForce onboard card and it works like a charm... Just enable: Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller as module under Device Drivers - Sound - ALSA - PCI devices might require something else... but just a hint. And with Flash audio. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAxGgAlpOsGhXcE0RCpTVAJ9Tw3KhIUr4BZFoBu/erQDI56avZgCfYc3S UoHbZGuiRxgohNbDfyeGbfc= =GjaU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] flash sound?
On Thursday 22 March 2007, a tiny voice compelled Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman to write: Ernie Schroder wrote: OK now I see that flash 9 doesn't work with OSS. My ALSA hasn't worked since the nforce sound drivers were removed from portage. Can someone please point me to a source of info. Hey, I have an nForce onboard card and it works like a charm... Just enable: Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/ALi AC97 Controller as module under Device Drivers - Sound - ALSA - PCI devices Yes, this is built in (not as module) might require something else... but just a hint. And with Flash audio. -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ I would believe that my kernel is OK because flash has sound as root. It's either a problem with firefox finding the plugin at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so or /home/ernie/.netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so or /home/ernie/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so OR a permission problem -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] flash sound?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ernie Schroder wrote: OR a permission problem Then use id. Check out to which groups the ernie user belongs to. Then check out with ls -l /dev/any/sound/device and see what happens. Usually users should be in the audio group. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGAzdRAlpOsGhXcE0RCrILAJ9hhSqSeYotsMlCxunXw6AZeHeyaQCfR0nM IT+o9djycLhegERqppkR/E8= =sk3X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] flash sound?
On Thursday 22 March 2007, a tiny voice compelled Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman to write: Ernie Schroder wrote: OR a permission problem Then use id. Check out to which groups the ernie user belongs to. Then check out with ls -l /dev/any/sound/device and see what happens. Usually users should be in the audio group. -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica Foros GNU/Buanzo: Respeto, Soluciones y Buena Onda: http://foros.buanzo.com.ar Consulting and Secure Mail Hosting: http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/ $ ls -al /dev/sound/ total 0 drwxrwxrwx 2 root wheel160 Mar 21 02:09 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 13660 Mar 22 19:19 .. crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 12 Mar 21 02:09 adsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 4 Mar 21 02:09 audio crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 3 Mar 21 02:09 dsp crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 0 Mar 21 02:09 mixer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 1 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer crwxrwxrwx 1 root audio 14, 8 Mar 21 02:09 sequencer2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 21 02:09 /dev/dsp - sound/dsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ id uid=1000(ernie) gid=100(users) groups=10(wheel),12(mail),16(cron),18(audio),35 (games),100(users),250(portage),440(scanner),500(webmaster) I'm confused. As you can see I've been playing with permissions and haven't cleaned everything up BUT, I can't see why user ernie can't play audio in .swf files. It looks to me that firefox isn't looking in the right places for the plug-in. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] VOIP solution?
Dear List We are a tiny business running in China. In China ISP competition is not very healthy, 2 major ISPs: China Telcom, China Netcom both defend their own business by limiting network access to other ISP. We have an office in Beijing, in Beijing there is only one ISP company (monoplay business) that is China Netcom so they choose to use it. We have an office in Xiamen, in Xiamen there is only one ISP company (monoplay business) that is China Telcom, so we choose to use it. We also have a server hosted by a hosting company, that company is very smart, using some very special technology to connect both ISP. Transfer data from our Xiamen Office to Beijing = 3 ~ 10 KB/s, no connection can maintain 10 minutes. Transfer data from Beijing to Xiamen is the same slow. In Xiamen, transfer data from / to our server is 100KB/s; in Beijing exactly the same. We used to use skype, but quality isn't very high nor very realiable because only a few super-nodes have fast access to both ISP. Besides we got a few other problems too related to skype / gizmo. I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the server that do the routing, e.g. it serve as a call center that both office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such software. Both offices use OpenSuSE as desktop computer and the server runs Gentoo Linux. Both offices are behind each one's NAT firewall. Any suggestions on a VOIP solution for our office? P.S. Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve the problem, but I think it's over complicated. Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection is hidden for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable for us. -- Zhang Weiwu Real Softservice http://www.realss.com +86 592 2091112 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] VOIP solution?
Your better off to use a VPN device to hold the connection across the 2 offices. If your connection is extremely crap; then you'll need to upgrade to a better service provider. As far as your windows vpn issue, the device is not hidden; you just built your vpn connection wrong. you need to remove the option to use the remote host as a gateway, this will allow you to use your local interface for dns routing, not the other side. On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:40 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: Dear List We are a tiny business running in China. In China ISP competition is not very healthy, 2 major ISPs: China Telcom, China Netcom both defend their own business by limiting network access to other ISP. We have an office in Beijing, in Beijing there is only one ISP company (monoplay business) that is China Netcom so they choose to use it. We have an office in Xiamen, in Xiamen there is only one ISP company (monoplay business) that is China Telcom, so we choose to use it. We also have a server hosted by a hosting company, that company is very smart, using some very special technology to connect both ISP. Transfer data from our Xiamen Office to Beijing = 3 ~ 10 KB/s, no connection can maintain 10 minutes. Transfer data from Beijing to Xiamen is the same slow. In Xiamen, transfer data from / to our server is 100KB/s; in Beijing exactly the same. We used to use skype, but quality isn't very high nor very realiable because only a few super-nodes have fast access to both ISP. Besides we got a few other problems too related to skype / gizmo. I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the server that do the routing, e.g. it serve as a call center that both office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such software. Both offices use OpenSuSE as desktop computer and the server runs Gentoo Linux. Both offices are behind each one's NAT firewall. Any suggestions on a VOIP solution for our office? P.S. Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve the problem, but I think it's over complicated. Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection is hidden for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable for us. -- Zhang Weiwu Real Softservice http://www.realss.com +86 592 2091112
[gentoo-user] Re: VOIP solution?
于 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:40:08 +0100，deface写到： Your better off to use a VPN device to hold the connection across the 2 offices. If your connection is extremely crap; then you'll need to upgrade to a better service provider. As far as your windows vpn issue, the device is not hidden; you just built your vpn connection wrong. you need to remove the option to use the remote host as a gateway, this will allow you to use your local interface for dns routing, not the other side. Thanks!. I'll carefully think and check your suggested solutions. However upgrade to a better service provider is absolutely impossible. Everyone who had been in China know this is a joke. We hope this (lack of competition in ICP business) can be solved in next 5 years. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
