Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 30 May 2007 21:42, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 May 2007 16:57, Mick wrote:

  I find it confusing.  First of all I do not have a id_rsa.

 it tries the default keys (id_rsa or id_dsa), if exists. 

id_rsa does not exist in my local /home/michael/.ssh/ only id_dsa is there and 
the public key that I have saved in /home/mic/.ssh/authorized_keys on the 
server is my corresponding id_dsa.pub.

 if you don't want 
 it to try it, you can use the -i parameter to ssh pointing to your private
 key (ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa user@server),

Trying with the -i option also fails:
==
 $ ssh -v -p 22 -i /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa mick@blah-blah
[snip]
debug1: Found key in /home/michael/.ssh/known_hosts:18
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
debug1: Next authentication method: password
==

  Second, my id_dsa is my private key not my public key.  My public key is
  id_dsa.pub

 but you will need your private key to be authenticated. that's why it is
 *private*.

That's right, so why does it:
==
debug1: Trying private key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa --this doesn't exist
debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa --this is my private 
key
==
  Is this a server configuration issue, or something to do with my Gentoo
  set up?

 ana in the server you'll need to put your *public* key into
 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file.

I have of course done this first.

  PS. Not sure if this is relevant but although my user name on the server
  is mick, for reasons better known to him the sysadmin has created my home
  directory as /home/mic - could it be that sshd is looking for /home/mick?

 that messages isn't from the server, is from client running locally. but it
 doesnt matter for what you want.

It matters if the server is trying to find id_dsa.pub in a non-existing 
directory.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to swap on a diskless host

2007-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:21:03 +0200 Michal 'vorner' Vaner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 First: You need to load the kernel from the swap, in the time it
 loads, you have no running kernel (well, there is a little part, but
 that one has no clue about network).

No, that's not entirely true. Userspace suspend and resume is in the
kernel since 2.6.17. See my other post in this thread for a pointer (I
think it was http://suspend.sf.net/). So for this way it really happens
all in userspace, with a fully working kernel available. When the image
is loaded into RAM, the resume utility makes a syscall to have the
kernel automatically copy  switch over.

See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/*suspend* for all the details.

 Second: You do not want swap on nfs, since it is terribly slow, buggy,
 nfs can allocate memory to transfer data and you get a circular
 problem
 - to get a memory, you need to get a memory. And, what if your cat
 steps on the ethernet cable?

Resume aborts, checksum error. But that's it. But true, I wouldn't
trust NFS too much, either. But then, there are nbd's (network block
devices) which would probably work a treat. But userspace resume from a
file on NFS should work reliably, too.

You're right, however, regarding the slowlyness. Suspending a 4Gig-RAM
machine via NFS is probably a bad idea.

 Third: the suspend does not use swap as a swap, but as a part of a
 disc.

Doesn't matter at all for userspace resume.

 You might try suspend to ram, thought. It should work on diskless
 machine as well as on any other.

...cough, cough... yeah, /as/ well as on any other. So this probably
means: It won't work until you switch off ACPI and resort to APM... But
of course, that will depend.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to swap on a diskless host

2007-05-31 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:28:20PM +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:21:03 +0200 Michal 'vorner' Vaner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  First: You need to load the kernel from the swap, in the time it
  loads, you have no running kernel (well, there is a little part, but
  that one has no clue about network).
 
 No, that's not entirely true. Userspace suspend and resume is in the
 kernel since 2.6.17. See my other post in this thread for a pointer (I
 think it was http://suspend.sf.net/). So for this way it really happens
 all in userspace, with a fully working kernel available. When the image
 is loaded into RAM, the resume utility makes a syscall to have the
 kernel automatically copy  switch over.
 
 See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/*suspend* for all the details.

OK, I use suspend 1, which seems the least buggy to me, I did not know
some of the suspends were in userspace. If so, then yes, it can work.

  Second: You do not want swap on nfs, since it is terribly slow, buggy,
  nfs can allocate memory to transfer data and you get a circular
  problem
  - to get a memory, you need to get a memory. And, what if your cat
  steps on the ethernet cable?
 
 Resume aborts, checksum error. But that's it. But true, I wouldn't
 trust NFS too much, either. But then, there are nbd's (network block
 devices) which would probably work a treat. But userspace resume from a
 file on NFS should work reliably, too.

No, that was not for resume, but for use of swap on NFS. You need fast
response from swap and reliability.

  You might try suspend to ram, thought. It should work on diskless
  machine as well as on any other.
 
 ...cough, cough... yeah, /as/ well as on any other. So this probably
 means: It won't work until you switch off ACPI and resort to APM... But
 of course, that will depend.

Why? It works fine for me. It just suspends and goes on the other day on
my laptop, all working by ACPI - with kernel suspend 1.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mauro Faccenda
On Thursday 31 May 2007 07:42, Mick wrote:
 On Wednesday 30 May 2007 21:42, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 May 2007 16:57, Mick wrote:
   I find it confusing.  First of all I do not have a id_rsa.
 
  it tries the default keys (id_rsa or id_dsa), if exists.

 id_rsa does not exist in my local /home/michael/.ssh/ only id_dsa is there
 and the public key that I have saved in /home/mic/.ssh/authorized_keys on
 the server is my corresponding id_dsa.pub.

  if you don't want
  it to try it, you can use the -i parameter to ssh pointing to your
  private key (ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa user@server),

 Trying with the -i option also fails:
 ==
  $ ssh -v -p 22 -i /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa mick@blah-blah
 [snip]
 debug1: Found key in /home/michael/.ssh/known_hosts:18
 debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
 debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
 debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
 debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
 debug1: Authentications that can continue:
 publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Next authentication method:
 publickey
 debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa
 debug1: Authentications that can continue:
 publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Next authentication method:
 password
 ==

that's strange.

which version of openssh do you use in the server and the client?
mine:
client: OpenSSH_4.5p1
server: OpenSSH_4.4p1

here mine output doing ssh to a server with only key authentication enabled:

i don't have the id_dsa.pub in my local machine too.

===
debug1: Found key in /home/faccenda/.ssh/known_hosts:8
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Trying private key: id_dsa
debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
debug1: read PEM private key done: type unknown
Enter passphrase for key 'id_dsa':
===

the failed part was because my key is password protected, so it asks me.

 That's right, so why does it:
 ==
 debug1: Trying private key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa --this doesn't exist
 debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa --this is my
 private key
 ==

i didn't noticed this line... really strange.

how your id_dsa was created? is it corrupted or does it has a public key on it 
instead?

you should try creating your key pair again with:

$ ssh-keygen -t dsa

i would like to see the content of this file (or, at least the headers), but 
its a PRIVATE key. ;)

the headers of mine:

-BEGIN DSA PRIVATE KEY-
Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED
DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC,933FEB2C1C691496


   PS. Not sure if this is relevant but although my user name on the
   server is mick, for reasons better known to him the sysadmin has
   created my home directory as /home/mic - could it be that sshd is
   looking for /home/mick?
 
  that messages isn't from the server, is from client running locally. but
  it doesnt matter for what you want.

 It matters if the server is trying to find id_dsa.pub in a non-existing
 directory.

but as i said, that message isn't from the server. being a redhat, i suppose 
that it uses redhat with more less the default configuration, that tries to 
read your public key on your user home in the server (~/.ssh/authorized_users 
or ~/.ssh/authorized_users2). and openssh knows where to look at. even when 
the home of the user isn't the default which is your case, right?

hope it helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 31 May 2007 11:42:48 +0100 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

   Second, my id_dsa is my private key not my public key.  My public
   key is id_dsa.pub
 
  but you will need your private key to be authenticated. that's why
  it is *private*.
 
 That's right, so why does it:
 ==
 debug1: Trying private key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa --this doesn't exist
 debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa --this is my private 
 key
 ==

What is wrong with that? It just says it is trying to access id_rsa,
not that there is one. So it fails, of course. So not existing key
isn't a matter here. It's _debugging_ output, so not necessarily
important information.

Using the private key is absolutely normal. A test message is encrypted
using it and is then being sent to the server, hence the term offering.

I don't see what you are wondering about here.

   PS. Not sure if this is relevant but although my user name on the
   server is mick, for reasons better known to him the sysadmin has
   created my home directory as /home/mic - could it be that sshd is
   looking for /home/mick?
 
  that messages isn't from the server, is from client running
  locally. but it doesnt matter for what you want.
 
 It matters if the server is trying to find id_dsa.pub in a
 non-existing directory.

But it _is_ a client message. It doesn't tell you where the server is
searching. So yes, the server might be off track and searching in the
wrong place. You could tell by monitoring the server's logs.

sshd will always search in the home directory as specified
in /etc/passwd (in the normal case) or more sophisticated solutions
like LDAP or NSS. So make sure it really *is* configured as the home
directory.

If the target server is ancient, it might also be searching in
.ssh/authorized_keys2. Maybe DSA auth is disabled. Why don't you
check server side logs (or let your sysadmin do that)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Randy Barlow

Mauro Faccenda wrote:
being a redhat, i suppose 
that it uses redhat with more less the default configuration, that tries to 
read your public key on your user home in the server (~/.ssh/authorized_users 
or ~/.ssh/authorized_users2).


This is something I've wondered about for a while - what's the 
difference between authorized_users and authorized_users2?


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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:08:38 -0400 Randy Barlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mauro Faccenda wrote:
  being a redhat, i suppose 
  that it uses redhat with more less the default configuration, that
  tries to read your public key on your user home in the server
  (~/.ssh/authorized_users or ~/.ssh/authorized_users2).
 
 This is something I've wondered about for a while - what's the 
 difference between authorized_users and authorized_users2?

I think this is some compatibility cruft from the first sshd versions
using the protocol version 2. Comments in pathnames.h from the
OpenSSH distribution indicate that, too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mauro Faccenda
On Thursday 31 May 2007 09:38, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 wrote:
Second, my id_dsa is my private key not my public key.  My public
key is id_dsa.pub
  
   but you will need your private key to be authenticated. that's why
   it is *private*.
 
  That's right, so why does it:
  ==
  debug1: Trying private key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa --this doesn't
  exist debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa --this is
  my private key ==

 What is wrong with that? It just says it is trying to access id_rsa,
 not that there is one. So it fails, of course. So not existing key
 isn't a matter here. It's _debugging_ output, so not necessarily
 important information.

 Using the private key is absolutely normal. A test message is encrypted
 using it and is then being sent to the server, hence the term offering.

 I don't see what you are wondering about here.

what's wrong there is that it's saying that id_dsa is a PUBLIC key. ;)

[]'s
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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mick
On Thursday 31 May 2007 13:14, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
 On Thursday 31 May 2007 07:42, Mick wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 May 2007 21:42, Mauro Faccenda wrote:
[snip]
  debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa
  debug1: Authentications that can continue:
  publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password debug1: Next authentication method:
  password
  ==

 that's strange.

 which version of openssh do you use in the server and the client?
 mine:
 client: OpenSSH_4.5p1
 server: OpenSSH_4.4p1

Installed versions:  4.5_p1-r1(19:45:58 02/23/07)
(X -X509 -chroot -hpn -kerberos ldap -libedit 
pam -selinux -skey -smartcard -static tcpd)

  That's right, so why does it:
  ==
  debug1: Trying private key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_rsa --this doesn't
  exist debug1: Offering public key: /home/michael/.ssh/id_dsa --this is
  my private key
  ==

 i didn't noticed this line... really strange.

 how your id_dsa was created? is it corrupted or does it has a public key on
 it instead?

It was created with 'ssh-keygen -t dsa'.

 you should try creating your key pair again with:

 $ ssh-keygen -t dsa

I would, but it seems to work fine with other servers, hence the point of this 
thread.  What I am going to try out nevertheless is generating an RSA key and 
see if the server accepts it.  Perhaps as Hans-Werner suggested the server 
may have been configured to only use dsa keys (I find this odd, but I don't 
know much about RH).

 i would like to see the content of this file (or, at least the headers),
 but its a PRIVATE key. ;)

 the headers of mine:

 -BEGIN DSA PRIVATE KEY-
 Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED
 DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC,933FEB2C1C691496

This is mine:

-BEGIN DSA PRIVATE KEY-
Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED
DEK-Info: DES-EDE3-CBC, XXX[snip]

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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mick


On 31/05/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thursday 31 May 2007 13:14, Mauro Faccenda wrote:



 you should try creating your key pair again with:

 $ ssh-keygen -t dsa

I would, but it seems to work fine with other servers, hence the point of this
thread.  What I am going to try out nevertheless is generating an RSA key and
see if the server accepts it.  Perhaps as Hans-Werner suggested the server
may have been configured to only use dsa keys (I find this odd, but I don't
know much about RH).


Not sure if this server has been configured to only use its own generated keys 
(is this possible?) because it will not accept a new RSA key of mine:

==
debug1: Found key in /home/michael/.ssh/known_hosts:18
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: Enabling compression at level 6.
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
debug1: Offering public key: .ssh/id_rsa
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password
debug1: Next authentication method: password
==

It think it's high time I have words with the sysadmin - wish me luck.  ;-)

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[gentoo-user] DHCP on my wireless card

2007-05-31 Thread Randy Barlow
Howdy all!  I'm having a tough time getting DHCP to work on my wireless card.  
It's the intel 2200, and I am using wpa_supplicant with it.  The contents of 
my /etc/conf.d/net are:

modules=( wpa_supplicant )
config_eth1=( dhcp )
wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext

The problem seems to be that DHCP isn't being used, and the even weirder part 
is that when I bring eth1 up via /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start, ifconfig will 
show eth1 configured with an IPv6 address!  /var/log/messages isn't helpful, 
except to point out that there are no ipv6 routers on my network (duh!).  
When I manually run dhcpcd eth1, then the ip address is obtained correctly 
and it works.  What should I check to see why DHCP doesn't seem to be being 
used on this interface and why I'm getting an IPv6 address?  Thanks!

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[gentoo-user] Why isn't my net.eth1 finishing startup

2007-05-31 Thread Randy Barlow
So I've learned a bit more about why my wireless interface may not be
using DHCP - apparently the startup script isn't finishing.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo rc
 * Caching service dependencies ...  
[ ok ]
 * WARNING:  netmount is scheduled to start when net.eth1 has started.
 * WARNING:  sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth1 has started.
 * WARNING:  backuppcApache2 is scheduled to start when net.eth1 has started.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start
 * WARNING:  net.eth1 has already been started.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/net.eth1 status
 * status:  inactive

Just to refresh, the interface seems to be using an IPv6 address, and
doesn't use dhcp.  If I manually call dhcpcd eth1, then I can use the
interface, but my other services still think that net.eth1 isn't started. 
How can I determine why the script is getting stuck?  Thanks for any help
you can offer!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: garbage after EOF

2007-05-31 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Donnerstag 31 Mai 2007 02:24 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
 On Thursday 31 May 2007 00:34:04 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
  On Wednesday 30 May 2007 23:45:40 Neil Bothwick wrote:
   On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:15:28 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
bunzip2: /home/dsl/distfiles/openmotif-2.2.3-r9.tbz2: trailing
garbage after EOF ignored
[...]
   
It affects *.tbz2 only.
  
   That's correct, portage stores some metadata at the end of the archive.
 
  It doesn't store anything in DISTDIR though. It appears that this file
  should be in PKGDIR.

 Ah, the possibility I hadn't thought of is the emul-linux-x86-* packages
 some of which use portage binpkgs in their SRC_URI. In this case it's
 emul-linux-x86-xlibs/emul-linux-x86-xlibs.

But why does it only affect *.tbz2. I've extracted all tar.bz2, tgz, tbz2 and 
tar.bz2. 
Shouldn't at least some tar.bz2 show the same error?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: garbage after EOF

2007-05-31 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 31 May 2007 18:16:13 Florian Philipp wrote:
  Ah, the possibility I hadn't thought of is the emul-linux-x86-* packages
  some of which use portage binpkgs in their SRC_URI. In this case it's
  emul-linux-x86-xlibs/emul-linux-x86-xlibs.

 But why does it only affect *.tbz2. I've extracted all tar.bz2, tgz, tbz2
 and tar.bz2.
 Shouldn't at least some tar.bz2 show the same error?

It doesn't even affect all tbz2 files (even if it does happen to affect all 
tbz2 files you have in your distdir right now). It does affect all portage 
binpkgs though because portage binpkgs include metadata at their tail (as 
Neil explained). And all portage binpkgs use the tbz2 file ending.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage: garbage after EOF

2007-05-31 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Donnerstag 31 Mai 2007 18:22 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
 On Thursday 31 May 2007 18:16:13 Florian Philipp wrote:
   Ah, the possibility I hadn't thought of is the emul-linux-x86-*
   packages some of which use portage binpkgs in their SRC_URI. In this
   case it's emul-linux-x86-xlibs/emul-linux-x86-xlibs.
 
  But why does it only affect *.tbz2. I've extracted all tar.bz2, tgz, tbz2
  and tar.bz2.
  Shouldn't at least some tar.bz2 show the same error?

 It doesn't even affect all tbz2 files (even if it does happen to affect all
 tbz2 files you have in your distdir right now). It does affect all portage
 binpkgs though because portage binpkgs include metadata at their tail (as
 Neil explained). And all portage binpkgs use the tbz2 file ending.

Ah, okay, thanks!


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Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-31 Thread Denis

   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcjawt.la (requires
 /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgij.la (requires
 /usr/lib/libgcj.la)

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728#c29

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Thanks, Bo -- editing the .la files fixes that problem.

Now that the dependencies are fixed, I don't need to rebuild anything,
do I?  I guess if this was a problem with any of the ebuilds I merged
onto the system before I fixed the dependencies, emerge would have
resulted in an error?
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[gentoo-user] File extensions in Kmail attachments

2007-05-31 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I noticed that when I open an attachment from within Kmail it adds odd 
extensions to the file, which are retained when I later on try to save it on 
the disk;  e.g. a spreadsheet opened with OOo is shown as: Notes from 
yesterdays mtg.xls_[yQHODa].

Furthermore, when I click on SaveAs in OOo it automatically opens the 
directory /tmp/kde-michael/ as opposed to /home/michael.  Would you perhaps 
know how I could fix this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Mick
On Thursday 31 May 2007 13:38, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:

 But it _is_ a client message. It doesn't tell you where the server is
 searching. So yes, the server might be off track and searching in the
 wrong place. You could tell by monitoring the server's logs.

 sshd will always search in the home directory as specified
 in /etc/passwd (in the normal case) or more sophisticated solutions
 like LDAP or NSS. So make sure it really *is* configured as the home
 directory.

Aha! We're getting somewhere.  There's no /home/mic specified in /etc/passwd 
but /:

mick:x:502:10::/:/bin/bash

What do you make of this?!
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Re: [gentoo-user] FW: mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (more info added)

2007-05-31 Thread Paul Varner
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 05:09 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 The equal sign was a mistake. I've actually been meaning to poke you about 
 that. At the same time you should drop the --emptytree parsing and just 
 use --deep directly. With the circular deps in the tree now that gets much 
 better results.

The use of --emptytree has already been removed in the the 0.2.4
versions of gentoolkit.

2007-03-07 Paul Varner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* revdep-rebuild: Change ordering algorithm to use --deep instead of
--emptytree on the advice of zmedico

So that one is already completed.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thu, May 31, 2007 2:28 pm, Mick wrote:
 Aha! We're getting somewhere.  There's no /home/mic specified in
 /etc/passwd
 but /:

 mick:x:502:10::/:/bin/bash

 What do you make of this?!

That's surely not right, try changing it to

mick:x:502:10::/home/mic:/bin/bash

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Re: [gentoo-user] [perhaps OT] ssh from Gentoo into a RedHat server

2007-05-31 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:28:09 +0100
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  sshd will always search in the home directory as specified
  in /etc/passwd (in the normal case) or more sophisticated solutions
  like LDAP or NSS. So make sure it really *is* configured as the home
  directory.
 
 Aha! We're getting somewhere.  There's no /home/mic specified in /etc/passwd 
 but /:
 
 mick:x:502:10::/:/bin/bash
 
 What do you make of this?!

LART your admin :-) and be sure he/she corrects that to read the real
homedir instead... (well, you could just use / as your home, but I
guess your admin didn't give you rights to write stuff there...) All
the details in man 5 passwd.

For obvious reasons, specifying your home dir from SSH client side upon
connection is not possible. Otherwise, a lot of public keys for the
root account would be lingerin' around in /tmp, I guess ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP on my wireless card

2007-05-31 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Randy Barlow schrieb:
 Howdy all!  I'm having a tough time getting DHCP to work on my wireless card. 
  
 It's the intel 2200, and I am using wpa_supplicant with it.  The contents of 
 my /etc/conf.d/net are:

 modules=( wpa_supplicant )
 config_eth1=( dhcp )
 wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext

 The problem seems to be that DHCP isn't being used, and the even weirder part 
 is that when I bring eth1 up via /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start, ifconfig will 
 show eth1 configured with an IPv6 address!  /var/log/messages isn't helpful, 
 except to point out that there are no ipv6 routers on my network (duh!).  
 When I manually run dhcpcd eth1, then the ip address is obtained correctly 
 and it works.  What should I check to see why DHCP doesn't seem to be being 
 used on this interface and why I'm getting an IPv6 address?  Thanks!
   
With wpa_supplicant the script is run 2 times. Once by you which fires
up wpa_supplicant and once by wpa_cli.sh, which puts up the interface
and runs dhcpcd.
I had this problem once too, and my problem was that a file
/etc/conf.d/net.eth1 existed, which had config_eth1=(null) in it. The
statements in /etc/conf.d/net had no effect then. Maybe that's the same
issue here.

- Sascha



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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP on my wireless card

2007-05-31 Thread Sascha Hlusiak

  and why I'm getting an IPv6 address?  Thanks!
   
Every link that is up gets a link-local ipv6 address which is used to
find and communicate with direct link partners. It probably starts with
fe80::. So don't worry, that's caused by the ipv6 module and you don't
get it, you basically just have it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] DHCP on my wireless card

2007-05-31 Thread Randy Barlow
On Thursday 31 May 2007 14:52, Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
 I had this problem once too, and my problem was that a file
 /etc/conf.d/net.eth1 existed, which had config_eth1=(null) in it. The
 statements in /etc/conf.d/net had no effect then. Maybe that's the same
 issue here.

No, that file doesn't exist on my system.  I filed a bug report about this so 
we'll see if that helps.  Any other ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] File extensions in Kmail attachments

2007-05-31 Thread Vladimir Rusinov

On 5/31/07, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I noticed that when I open an attachment from within Kmail it adds odd
extensions to the file, which are retained when I later on try to save it
on
the disk;  e.g. a spreadsheet opened with OOo is shown as: Notes from
yesterdays mtg.xls_[yQHODa].

Furthermore, when I click on SaveAs in OOo it automatically opens the
directory /tmp/kde-michael/ as opposed to /home/michael.  Would you
perhaps
know how I could fix this?



I think, you cat fix this only via patching sources. When you open mail
attachment, KMail extracts it from message body and saves it to tmp dir in
order to other apps can open it.

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[gentoo-user] Emacs/JDE strange behaviour with latest emacs update

2007-05-31 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

after I recently upgraded to 21.4-r2 the graphical pulldown menus vanished
for textmenus and with jde ctrl-c-v-c for compiling is no longer working. 
Is there some new USE-flag for emacs one should know about?

Regards,

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[gentoo-user] Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

will there be a unionfs for 2.6.20 kernels? AFAIK there's only the 1.5_pre
for 2.6.19.

Regards,

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[gentoo-user] Math symbols with emerge -C

2007-05-31 Thread reader
I always stumble around endlessly whenever I attempt to use math
symbols in emerge commands.

To Neil B and others who have patiently explained this to me on
several occasions... I can only plead deep seated idiocy but I'm not
getting why this happens.


I want to `unmerge' (-C) versions of gentoo-sources prior to -2.6.20-r6

However this fails:

  root # emerge -vpC gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r6

   These are the packages that would be unmerged:

  --- Couldn't find 'gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r6' to unmerge.

   No packages selected for removal by unmerge

==

However the same command run in `install' mode works:

  root # emerge -vp gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r6

  These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

  Calculating dependencies... done!
  [ebuild  NS   ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.20-r5 \
USE=-build -symlink 42,570 kB 

As expected the next lower package is offered.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread Ali Polatel
Konstantinos Agouros [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:
 Hi,
 
 will there be a unionfs for 2.6.20 kernels? AFAIK there's only the 1.5_pre
 for 2.6.19.
 
 Regards,
 
 Konstantin

 You should use unionfs version 2.0 which is a part of -mm tree. You can
either get mm-sources or manually patch your kernel. Have a look at
http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html for more info..


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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread burlingk


 -Original Message-
 From: Norberto Bensa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:29 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20
 
 
 Ali Polatel wrote:
   You should use unionfs version 2.0 which is a part of -mm 
 tree. You 
  can either get mm-sources or manually patch your kernel. 
 Have a look 
  at http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html for more info..
 
 But there's no unionfs-utils unless you're using sabayon overlay...
 
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I have seen many people mentioning UnionFS.  
What exactly is it, and what does it do?
(:P Besides the statement that it is an FS.)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread Norberto Bensa
Ali Polatel wrote:
  You should use unionfs version 2.0 which is a part of -mm tree. You can
 either get mm-sources or manually patch your kernel. Have a look at
 http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html for more info..

But there's no unionfs-utils unless you're using sabayon overlay...

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[gentoo-user] Emerge -v portage performs sneak attack on emacs-cvs

2007-05-31 Thread reader
The subject line is half joke... but I just did an sync and then
emerged portage as suggested.   After the emerge of portage, emerge
process went on and uninstaqlled a couple of versions of emacs-cvs.

As you can see in the command output below... there was no hint of
what was coming:


root # emerge -v portage

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9 [2.1.2.4] USE=-build -doc -epydoc 
(-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl 365 kB 
Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 365 kB

===

The tail of emerge.log shows what happened at the end:

[...]

1180656993: Started emerge on: May 31, 2007 20:16:33
1180656993:  *** emerge --verbose sync
1180656993:  === sync
1180656993:  Starting rsync with rsync://134.68.220.74/gentoo-portage
1180657009:  *** terminating.
1180657015: Started emerge on: May 31, 2007 20:16:55
1180657015:  *** emerge  sync
1180657015:  === sync
1180657015:  Starting rsync with rsync://134.68.220.74/gentoo-portage
1180657251: === Sync completed with rsync://134.68.220.74/gentoo-portage
1180657390:  *** terminating.
1180658001: Started emerge on: May 31, 2007 20:33:21
1180658001:  *** emerge --verbose portage
1180658003:   emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9 to /
1180658003:  === (1 of 1) Cleaning 
(sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9::/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.1.2.9.ebuild)
1180658004:  === (1 of 1) Compiling/Merging 
(sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9::/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.1.2.9.ebuild)
1180658026:   AUTOCLEAN: sys-apps/portage
1180658026: === Unmerging... (sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.4)
1180658030:   unmerge success: sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.4
1180658030:  === (1 of 1) Post-Build Cleaning 
(sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9::/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.1.2.9.ebuild)
1180658030:  ::: completed emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9 to /
1180658030:  *** Finished. Cleaning up...
1180658031: === Unmerging... (app-editors/emacs-cvs-22.0.92)
1180658078:   unmerge success: app-editors/emacs-cvs-22.0.92
1180658078: === Unmerging... (app-editors/emacs-cvs-22.0.95-r1)
1180658115:   unmerge success: app-editors/emacs-cvs-22.0.95-r1
1180658115:  *** exiting successfully.
1180658115:  *** terminating.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread Norberto Bensa
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 I have seen many people mentioning UnionFS.
 What exactly is it, and what does it do?
 (:P Besides the statement that it is an FS.)

Let's ask our friend: http://www.google.com/search?q=unionfs


http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html

Great for livecds (among other things...)


Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread Ali Polatel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Norberto Bensa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 9:29 AM
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20
  
  
  Ali Polatel wrote:
You should use unionfs version 2.0 which is a part of -mm 
  tree. You 
   can either get mm-sources or manually patch your kernel. 
  Have a look 
   at http://www.am-utils.org/project-unionfs.html for more info..
  
  But there's no unionfs-utils unless you're using sabayon overlay...
  
  Regards,
  Norberto
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 I have seen many people mentioning UnionFS.  
 What exactly is it, and what does it do?
 (:P Besides the statement that it is an FS.)

quoting from wikipedia[1]:
UnionFS is a Linux filesystem service which implements
a union mount for Linux file systems. It allows files and directories of
separate file systems, known as branches, to be transparently overlaid,
forming a single coherent file system.

For example you can put your portage tree in a squashfs filesystem 
- which you can only mount ro - so that it'll take little space and create
a unionfs with it and a directory in /dev/shm to keep track of changes
between syncs[2].

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unionfs
[2]: http://dev.gentoo.org/~jokey/squashed-portage-tree/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Davi
Em Quinta 31 Maio 2007 23:24, Richard Marz escreveu:
 I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
 kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
 system still doesn't manage to shut the power off on it's own. My
 motherboard is ATX but I'm forced to shut it down as if it were an AT
 mobo. Is there anything else that might have to be enabled in the kernel
 before the shutdown command can fully function. Any help would be
 appreciated. Thanks.

Have you tried:

# shutdown -h now -P

?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20

2007-05-31 Thread burlingk


 -Original Message-
 From: Ali Polatel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:46 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Unionfs for 2.6.20
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] yazmış:
snip
  I have seen many people mentioning UnionFS.
  What exactly is it, and what does it do?
  (:P Besides the statement that it is an FS.)
 
 quoting from wikipedia[1]:
 UnionFS is a Linux filesystem service which implements
 a union mount for Linux file systems. It allows files and 
 directories of separate file systems, known as branches, to 
 be transparently overlaid, forming a single coherent file system.
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So, at this point in time it is not something
that I personally need to focus on.  That is
however usefull info.  I will keep it in mind
for when someone else asks the question later.
What is not 100% useful to me, may be just what
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
No. But, I will try it now. I'll let you know if it works in a few
minutes because I'm downloading the latests kernel sources.
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 23:30 -0300, Davi wrote:
 shutdown -h now -P

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[gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
system still doesn't manage to shut the power off on it's own. My
motherboard is ATX but I'm forced to shut it down as if it were an AT
mobo. Is there anything else that might have to be enabled in the kernel
before the shutdown command can fully function. Any help would be
appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Norberto Bensa
Richard Marz wrote:
 I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
 kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my

How old is your bios?

Have you tried acpi=force kernel param?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread burlingk


 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Marz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:40 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering 
 down system.
 
 
 No. But, I will try it now. I'll let you know if it works in 
 a few minutes because I'm downloading the latests kernel 
 sources. On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 23:30 -0300, Davi wrote:
  shutdown -h now -P
 
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If shutodwn -h now -P doesn't work, try
shutdown -P -h now

I know that is just a matter of symantics, but a lot 
of programs want the options all in one spot. ^^;;
Not sure about this one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] why multiple versions of java-config, automake, and autoconf?

2007-05-31 Thread Ric de France

HI...

On 31/05/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--prune makes no checks of what's still required.

[SNIP]
 But doesn't --prune just remove all but the most recent installation
 of a given package?

Yes.


I knew there was a reason I followed a --prune up with a -DNuva
world as well as a revdep-rebuild.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Dale
Richard Marz wrote:
 I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
 kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
 system still doesn't manage to shut the power off on it's own. My
 motherboard is ATX but I'm forced to shut it down as if it were an AT
 mobo. Is there anything else that might have to be enabled in the kernel
 before the shutdown command can fully function. Any help would be
 appreciated. Thanks.

   

Naturally this may not work for you but I use this one under APM:

 [*]   Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off

I have video turned on under ACPI but I have no clue why.  :/This is
my kernel version:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -r
 2.6.18-gentoo-r6
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Hope that helps, maybe.  LOL

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
It seems to be giving me the same behaviour as shutdown -h now.
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 22:39 -0400, Richard Marz wrote:
 No. But, I will try it now. I'll let you know if it works in a few
 minutes because I'm downloading the latests kernel sources.
 On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 23:30 -0300, Davi wrote:
  shutdown -h now -P
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
I will try that right now.
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 23:51 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Richard Marz wrote:
  I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
  kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
 
 How old is your bios?
 
 Have you tried acpi=force kernel param?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
My Bios is up to date. It's not the BIOS. Shutdown has been confirmed to
work with linux and freebsd kernels on my machine in the past. 
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 23:51 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Richard Marz wrote:
  I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
  kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
 
 How old is your bios?
 
 Have you tried acpi=force kernel param?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shutdown -h now is not powering down system.

2007-05-31 Thread Richard Marz
I'll try this as well.
On Thu, 2007-05-31 at 22:57 -0500, Dale wrote:
 Richard Marz wrote:
  I have all the appropriate power management interfaces enabled in my
  kernel. ACPI is the one my system uses, but I've also tried APM and my
  system still doesn't manage to shut the power off on it's own. My
  motherboard is ATX but I'm forced to shut it down as if it were an AT
  mobo. Is there anything else that might have to be enabled in the kernel
  before the shutdown command can fully function. Any help would be
  appreciated. Thanks.
 

 
 Naturally this may not work for you but I use this one under APM:
 
  [*]   Use real mode APM BIOS call to power off
 
 I have video turned on under ACPI but I have no clue why.  :/This is
 my kernel version:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -r
  2.6.18-gentoo-r6
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
 
 Hope that helps, maybe.  LOL
 
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