Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
On Friday 24 August 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: I got a shiny new Dell Inspiron from the PC fairy. Windows Vista works OK (at least good enough for Windows). It does not want to be formattedg. I insert the latest minimal install CD, and things start off OK at the beginning of the boot process. *THE USB KEYBOARD WORKS OK AT THE BEGINNING* I can type in gentoo or gentoo-nofb. Could you try passing to the kernel the keyboard parameter at this stage? I am thinking of something like: gentoo keyboard=gb or keyboard=41, or whatever. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: i586 install
On Friday 24 August 2007, James wrote: Sarpy Sam sarpy.sam at gmail.com writes: #0 title=kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root(hd0,1) Change this to: root (hd0,0) if you have installed Grub's fs in your /dev/hda1. If your Grub root is in /dev/hda3 then you need (hd0,2). Use find from the command line to see where your Grub root has been installed (see below). BTW, unless you are dual booting with MS Windows you do not need a boot flag, even more so two boot flags! kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda3 #0 title=kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda1 Grub method of numbering has always confused me but I thought that root(hd0,1) would point to the hda2 partition which is the swap partition. Shouldn't it be root(hd0,0) to point it to the hda1 partition? I could easily be wrong but that is what I would try. actually the above is what I tried first, the last few attempts have been: root(hd0,0) add a space after root. After I made that change, I even reemerged grub and even used the grub shell.. The Grub shell is a very good way of finding where the Grub fs has been installed. From a root shell run: # grub grub find /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0,X) grub Where X is the partition number in Grub's nomenclature that your Grub root resides. Good luck. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] i586 install
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:00:26 + (UTC), James wrote: The ide disk setup is very simple: fdisk /dev/hda # Device BootStartEnd Blocks Id System # /dev/hda1 * 1 50 401593+ 83 Linux # /dev/hda2 51 185 1084387+ 82 Linux swap # /dev/hda3 * 186 243418065092+ 83 Linux Is hda1 /boot and hda3 the root partition? #0 title=kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda3 #0 title=kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root(hd0,1) kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/hda1 If so, this is all wrong. /boot is not mounted, so GRUB cannot find the kernel in (hd0,x)/boot (unless you have it symlinked to itself) and (hd0,1) is your swap partition anyway. root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4... would find the kernel correctly. If in any doubt, use find /kernel-2.6.21-gentoo-r4 in the GRUB shell. Incidentally, if you use make install to install your kernels, and set up grub to use kernel /vmlinuz you don't need to update GRUB each time you update your kernel, because vmlinuz will always be a symlink to the latest. -- Neil Bothwick The Japanese call us lazy, but at least we cook our fish! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] removing old kernels from system
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:22:03 -0400, Denis wrote: Indeed, the old kernel directories were still in /usr/src, and they were still filled with executables. The modules for the old kernels in /lib/modules were also still there. I ended up removing all those directories by hand. emerge --unmerge only removes files installed by portage, which is the kernel source in this case. Files created outside of portage, when you compile the kernel, are not included in the packages' contents files and so remain until you delete them manually. The same applies to modules and kernels. Is there a tool for automatically removing the old kernels/modules and all their respective directories? I use this script to do it, saved as /usr/src/prunekernels. #!/bin/bash # clean /lib/modules cd /lib/modules ls -1rt | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr # clean /boot grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab mount /boot -o remount,rw cd /boot ls -1rt config-* | head -n -2 | while read f; do bzip2 -9 $f mv $f.bz2 oldconfigs/ done ls -1rt System.map-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f if [ -f vmlinux ]; then ls -1rt vmlinux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f else ls -1rt vmlinuz-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -f fi # clean /usr/src cd /usr/src ls -1drt linux-* | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty rm -fr equery --quiet list gentoo-sources | head -n -2 | xargs --no-run-if-empty emerge --unmerge /dev/null grep --quiet /boot /etc/fstab mount /boot -o remount,ro -- Neil Bothwick Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Setting up sftp and user permissions
Hi All, I have a desktop box which I am starting to use as a LAN server. I created a new user and noticed that: a) The new user is asked to login with passwd as opposed to pubkey. This is surprising as (I thought) that I had set up sshd_config to allow pubkey authentication only - need to check this again when I get home. Other than a misconfigured sshd_config could it be anything else that causes this? b) Once logged in via sftp the new user can read and access other users files. This is because the default permission setting for /home/%u/ is 0644 (rw-r--r--). Is there a clever way of tightening this down without messing up all home file and directory permissions indiscriminately? I understand that there are many ways to skin a cat - in this case to contain somewhat what a plain user can and cannot do when they log in via sftp. Some ideas that I have across are to use a limited shell like rssh, use an ssh chroot, modify the umask for user directories. I am interested to find out what you might have tried and what you would recommend. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
Hi there! The last expat update was an example of something that annoys me about gentoo. I usually do world updates every few days, mostly without trouble. I only tend to forget to restart services, but even for this there is an automatic solution now (see the recent Rolling upgrades thread). I have even compiled X.org or a new KDE while having KDE running. But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable with updating along the way, while working with the system, but usually it works fine. But in the case of expat, I got a message _after_ it was updated that I have to revdep-rebuild some stuff (and I know I should read these messages, but at first I just did not notice until the first problems hapened). In the meantime, much of the system just does not work any more. It took me two days on a not-so-fast PC until revdep-rebuild was done (skipping koffice) and I had kmail running again. It was no big problem, I had the time, and had downgraded expat before when I needed my whole system, but still. So, what I would like is some way of being informed that the next update of some software would cause major trouble and break many things, leaving the system possibly unusable for a while, and the choice of not doing so until I have the time to deal with it. Something like a --force option to emerge, without which things like expat would not be updated. I know, it's not that simple to decide which updates are that critical, but I think at least in the case of expat we agree that this was a problem, as e.g. whole KDE was affected. A soution might be to slot expat, and issue a revdep-rebuild --library=/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 afterwards. This makes all the not-yet-broken apps use the new version, which could be unmerged afterwards. In the meantime, all would be working fine. What do you think? Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
Am Freitag 24 August 2007 14:13:23 schrieb Alex Schuster: Hi there! The last expat update was an example of something that annoys me about gentoo. I usually do world updates every few days, mostly without trouble. I only tend to forget to restart services, but even for this there is an automatic solution now (see the recent Rolling upgrades thread). I have even compiled X.org or a new KDE while having KDE running. But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable with updating along the way, while working with the system, but usually it works fine. But in the case of expat, I got a message _after_ it was updated that I have to revdep-rebuild some stuff (and I know I should read these messages, but at first I just did not notice until the first problems hapened). In the meantime, much of the system just does not work any more. It took me two days on a not-so-fast PC until revdep-rebuild was done (skipping koffice) and I had kmail running again. It was no big problem, I had the time, and had downgraded expat before when I needed my whole system, but still. So, what I would like is some way of being informed that the next update of some software would cause major trouble and break many things, leaving the system possibly unusable for a while, and the choice of not doing so until I have the time to deal with it. Something like a --force option to emerge, without which things like expat would not be updated. I know, it's not that simple to decide which updates are that critical, but I think at least in the case of expat we agree that this was a problem, as e.g. whole KDE was affected. A soution might be to slot expat, and issue a revdep-rebuild --library=/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 afterwards. This makes all the not-yet-broken apps use the new version, which could be unmerged afterwards. In the meantime, all would be working fine. What do you think? Alex I definitely agree with you. Until it's done I suggest two ways of handling it: 1. Check if any update seems to be bigger (like expat from 1.9 to 2.1) 2. Make it your general rule to wait two days between emerge --sync and emerge -uD world (except of critical updates). That way you can watch the mailing list for the trouble that awaits you. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
On Friday 24 August 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: What do you think? Alex I definitely agree with you. Until it's done I suggest two ways of handling it: 1. Check if any update seems to be bigger (like expat from 1.9 to 2.1) 2. Make it your general rule to wait two days between emerge --sync and emerge -uD world (except of critical updates). That way you can watch the mailing list for the trouble that awaits you. I agree too. The information that a certain new or upgraded package might break something and/or require special actions (like eg revdep-rebuild) can usually be known in advance (the warning messages are in the ebuild, after all), so imho a very simple yet effective solution could be to somehow mark or flag those packages before they are installed. One place to do this could be in the output of emerge -uDavnt world (before the user hits y!), another in the eix-sync summary that is usually displayed after the sync (this only for those who use eix-sync, of course). I'm sure the devs could find many other good (and probably better) ways to do this. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] xorg.conf gui editor
Hi, list I came across an article [1] about xorg.conf gui editor developed by Ubuntu. I just thought some of you might be interested in reading more about this and someone could even put a request for including that tool in Gentoo. [1] http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
On Friday 24 August 2007, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! The last expat update was an example of something that annoys me about gentoo. I usually do world updates every few days, mostly without trouble. I only tend to forget to restart services, but even for this there is an automatic solution now (see the recent Rolling upgrades thread). I have even compiled X.org or a new KDE while having KDE running. But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable with updating along the way, while working with the system, but usually it works fine. But in the case of expat, I got a message _after_ it was updated that I have to revdep-rebuild some stuff (and I know I should read these messages, but at first I just did not notice until the first problems hapened). I can't but agree with you. You have become too comfortable! :)) I am happy that major system (well, desktop) downtime does not happen more often. I was running ~x86 for about a year, more than four years ago and breakages were a weekly if not a daily occurrence. Running stable these days is quite . . . stable(!) with incidents like this taking place less than once a year. On the other hand, I have a box that I don't want to take off line to do this update/upgrade beacuse it is slow and will take the best part of 3 days to complete. Will have to wait for the holiday weekend to get it done. I bet this is not something your average MS Windows user have to concern themselves with - but they are not running a meta-distribution, right? ;) So, what I would like is some way of being informed that the next update of some software would cause major trouble and break many things, leaving the system possibly unusable for a while, and the choice of not doing so until I have the time to deal with it. Something like a --force option to emerge, without which things like expat would not be updated. YES PLEASE! I would really appreciate a formal heads up, a couple of weeks in advance, along with instructions if need be; e.g. like the GCC upgrade. I know, it's not that simple to decide which updates are that critical, but I think at least in the case of expat we agree that this was a problem, as e.g. whole KDE was affected. I'd say that toolchain, (big) Display Environments, and Xorg can cause significant disruption and therefore I would include them in a 'early warning' system for gentoo upgrades. A soution might be to slot expat, and issue a revdep-rebuild --library=/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 afterwards. This makes all the not-yet-broken apps use the new version, which could be unmerged afterwards. In the meantime, all would be working fine. What do you think? Not sure that would add anything. You would still need to emerge and remerge a lorry load of packages at the end. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 14:13 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable I'm all for comfort - I remember back in the old gentoo 1.1b days - back then world upgrades were an adventure ... The numerous gcc and glibc adventures we went through at the time make the expat one seem ... tame! BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up sftp and user permissions
a) The new user is asked to login with passwd as opposed to pubkey. This is surprising as (I thought) that I had set up sshd_config to allow pubkey authentication only - need to check this again when I get home. Other than a misconfigured sshd_config could it be anything else that causes this? If you want to disable password based logons, and only use shared keys, then change UsePAM yes to UsePAM no. b) Once logged in via sftp the new user can read and access other users files. This is because the default permission setting for /home/%u/ is 0644 (rw-r--r--). Is there a clever way of tightening this down without messing up all home file and directory permissions indiscriminately? chmod 700 /home/* I understand that there are many ways to skin a cat - in this case to contain somewhat what a plain user can and cannot do when they log in via sftp. Some ideas that I have across are to use a limited shell like rssh, use an ssh chroot, modify the umask for user directories. I am interested to find out what you might have tried and what you would recommend. If you're that worried about them having shell access, then don't use sftp. Use encrypted ftp (ftp + tls ... pureftpd provides this) for file transfers, or even webdav over https. -Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 14:13 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Hi there! But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable I'm all for comfort - I remember back in the old gentoo 1.1b days - back then world upgrades were an adventure ... The numerous gcc and glibc adventures we went through at the time make the expat one seem ... tame! BillK Hi, The 'new' news module might come handy here. IIRC there's a work to include it in portage (not very sure tough). Paludis already has it, after a sync you get a message about new 'news' items. HTH. Rumen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
Mick writes: On Friday 24 August 2007, Alex Schuster wrote: But then, there are things like the expat update. This happens seldomly, but if it does, it's rather annoying. Maybe I have become too comfortable with updating along the way, while working with the system, but usually it works fine. But in the case of expat, I got a message _after_ it was updated that I have to revdep-rebuild some stuff (and I know I should read these messages, but at first I just did not notice until the first problems hapened). I can't but agree with you. You have become too comfortable! :)) :-) I am happy that major system (well, desktop) downtime does not happen more often. I was running ~x86 for about a year, more than four years ago and breakages were a weekly if not a daily occurrence. Running stable these days is quite . . . stable(!) with incidents like this taking place less than once a year. On the other hand, I have a box that I don't want to take off line to do this update/upgrade beacuse it is slow and will take the best part of 3 days to complete. Will have to wait for the holiday weekend to get it done. I also have two systems for wich I haves masked expat-2, as I only have remote access to them at the moment. There should be no problem, but I am not entirely sure, and prefer to be there when upgrading. I bet this is not something your average MS Windows user have to concern themselves with - but they are not running a meta-distribution, right? ;) Right. But even with a meta-distribution downtimes are not really necessary I think, so why not tune the updating process a little bit. A soution might be to slot expat, and issue a revdep-rebuild --library=/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 afterwards. This makes all the not-yet-broken apps use the new version, which could be unmerged afterwards. In the meantime, all would be working fine. What do you think? Not sure that would add anything. You would still need to emerge and remerge a lorry load of packages at the end. Sure. But I don't mind remerging stuff as long as I can still use my system. Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
On Friday 24 August 2007 14:13:23 Alex Schuster wrote: So, what I would like is some way of being informed that the next update of some software would cause major trouble and break many things, leaving the system possibly unusable for a while, and the choice of not doing so until I have the time to deal with it. Something like a --force option to emerge, without which things like expat would not be updated. I know, it's not that simple to decide which updates are that critical, but I think at least in the case of expat we agree that this was a problem, as e.g. whole KDE was affected. A soution might be to slot expat, and issue a revdep-rebuild --library=/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0.5.0 afterwards. This makes all the not-yet-broken apps use the new version, which could be unmerged afterwards. In the meantime, all would be working fine. Till now I've seen four proposed solutions for this. Two of those are for informing the user before the upgrade and the other two are technical solutions. 1) GLEP 42. Post-sync notification via eselect news. 2) pkg_pretend() in the ebuild which runs at pretend time and is able to notify the user if required. 3) Do proper slotting. 4) preserve_old_lib*() from eutils.eclass. Preserve the .so only and notify the user to run revdep-rebuild --library.. and remove the old lib. I for one am in favour of all of 1), 2) and 3). 1) has been agreed upon but noone skilled enough has found the motivation to make it work with portage. 2) might be agreed upon if the EAPI ever starts moving again.. 3) and 4) are claimed to have unfortunate side effects, but I'm not sure whether that has to be correct (depending on how it's done), and I'm not sure it's any worse than the current situation anyway. -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up sftp and user permissions
Mick writes: I understand that there are many ways to skin a cat - in this case to contain somewhat what a plain user can and cannot do when they log in via sftp. Some ideas that I have across are to use a limited shell like rssh, use an ssh chroot, modify the umask for user directories. I am using net-misc/scponly, a tiny pseudoshell which only permits scp and sftp. http://www.sublimation.org/scponly/ Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dhcp connect problem
Hello, Trying to show that we could use Linux in our chool, I am trying to connect a machine per wifi to a rather Macintosh oriented network. I know I can connect from a (PC) laptop running Mac OS, and the Linux machine is so far that I know the card works and I can see the network. It's an open network (no wep) as the students should be able to connect as well. The problem is that I don't get an IP, and it seems I don't get the access point either (both are probably linked). If I run net-setup it fonds the card and configures it by simply asking if i use DHCP, but that info obviously is not enough. I very nood when it comes to DHCP, as my local network uses fixed IP and I had no problem connecting to it with the same machine. I've found a lot of infos as to how to tell which channel or which network I want to connect to, but I can't solve this no IP, no AP problem. If anyone can give me a hint I'd be glad. Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
I might be a bit too naive or hands-on -- I think portage or paludis should be able to tell you which upgrades that expat one will draw behind it. I don't know what would be required for implementation, though. In other words, even the existence of a separate revdep-rebuild tool is a design error, IMHO. ralf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] About the expat update and such
Ralf Stephan writes: I might be a bit too naive or hands-on -- I think portage or paludis should be able to tell you which upgrades that expat one will draw behind it. I don't know what would be required for implementation, though. In other words, even the existence of a separate revdep-rebuild tool is a design error, IMHO. I agree, revdep-rebuild is a kludge. However, I do not think portage knows which libraries a specific package needs, so it is necessary at the moment. It might not be impossible to implement, though. After the install step, emerge could run ldd for each binary to check for its libraries, run equery belongs to it and save the list of so found dependent packages somewhere. When such a library is later about to be removed during the cleaning phase, the dependent applications could be re-merged before (assuming the configure step will use the newest library available - not sure if this is entirely true). I guess the equery step would slow things down a lot, but once done, revdep-rebuild would not need to run ldd for every binary in the system over and over again, which does not seem to be that elegant indeed. Alex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
Ok, first - I wasn't sure which list this should go to, so if this is the wrong list please just let me know. I am in the process of upgrading my server from a P90 running Slackware to a newer system running Gentoo 2007.0. Everything is pretty okay until I got to doing the network config. My basic config is as follows: Public DHCP'd Interface - eth0 (default gw) Private Lan Interface #1 - eth1 Private Lan Interface #2 - eth2 I also have a number of IP Aliases on the eth1 eth2. I managed this under Slack through a series of custom rc scripts, which autodetected the IP address of eth0 for use in the routing. However, I am having trouble figuring out how to do the same thing in Gentoo's conf.d/net file system. Thus far, in /etc/conf.d/net, I have the following: config_eth0(dhcp) config_eth1(list of static IP addresses) config_eth2(static ip address) I also had a route line for eth1 and eth2, but it specified the IP of eth1, not eth0 - which is unknown. I've tried the following: route_eth1(default via ${COMMAND_STRING_TO_EXTRACT_IP_OF_ETH1}) which kinda works (it does get the IP address, but fails with at adding the route - I'm not at the system right now, so I'll have to post the specific SIG name later); however, I am very much doubting that that is the right way to do what I want under Gentoo. So, my primary question is: What is the proper way to do this under Gentoo? I know I could just go and manually write versions of /etc/init.d/net.eth1/eth2, but I'd rather do it the right way if there is one, and only do that as a last resort. (And even then, wouldn't I be risking the Gentoo Configuration system replace them with symlinks?) Any how...any advice on the proper way to do this would be greatly appreciated. I really like Gentoo and really do want to keep - I use to keep Slack up-to-date manually, and just don't have the time for it anymore, which is why I'm trying Gentoo. Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] xorg.conf gui editor
This program certainly does look nice, I wonder how it will play with nvidia-settings and the equivalent ATI program. Given Ubuntu's fairly large dependency on gnome, I'm betting that this program has the usual gnome dependencies. Since I use Xfce, I will likely not use it because of that. Anyone know if this (or an equivalent program) will be included in Xubuntu and Kubuntu and other non-Gnome Ubuntu distributions? - Brian Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, list I came across an article [1] about xorg.conf gui editor developed by Ubuntu. I just thought some of you might be interested in reading more about this and someone could even put a request for including that tool in Gentoo. [1] http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
On 8/24/07, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, first - I wasn't sure which list this should go to, so if this is the wrong list please just let me know. I am in the process of upgrading my server from a P90 running Slackware to a newer system running Gentoo 2007.0. Everything is pretty okay until I got to doing the network config. My basic config is as follows: Public DHCP'd Interface - eth0 (default gw) Private Lan Interface #1 - eth1 Private Lan Interface #2 - eth2 I also have a number of IP Aliases on the eth1 eth2. I managed this under Slack through a series of custom rc scripts, which autodetected the IP address of eth0 for use in the routing. However, I am having trouble figuring out how to do the same thing in Gentoo's conf.d/net file system. Thus far, in /etc/conf.d/net, I have the following: config_eth0(dhcp) config_eth1(list of static IP addresses) config_eth2(static ip address) I also had a route line for eth1 and eth2, but it specified the IP of eth1, not eth0 - which is unknown. I've tried the following: route_eth1(default via ${COMMAND_STRING_TO_EXTRACT_IP_OF_ETH1}) which kinda works (it does get the IP address, but fails with at adding the route - I'm not at the system right now, so I'll have to post the specific SIG name later); however, I am very much doubting that that is the right way to do what I want under Gentoo. So, my primary question is: What is the proper way to do this under Gentoo? I know I could just go and manually write versions of /etc/init.d/net.eth1/eth2, but I'd rather do it the right way if there is one, and only do that as a last resort. (And even then, wouldn't I be risking the Gentoo Configuration system replace them with symlinks?) Any how...any advice on the proper way to do this would be greatly appreciated. I really like Gentoo and really do want to keep - I use to keep Slack up-to-date manually, and just don't have the time for it anymore, which is why I'm trying Gentoo. Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list eth0 gives you the default gw via DHCP, and you're trying to set a default gw for eth1, right? If so, you can't do that. There can only be one default gateway (hence the name). What are the functions of the NICs on the private networks (eth1/eth2)? -- - Mark Shields
[gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
hi, I'm working to get a stable portage overlay to keep ebuild and files I used to build my system. But even if I keep the ebuild and all the files needed, the command emerge --sync introduces some dependencies by modifying eclass. How can I know (localize) this kind of dependencies ? I found the first one using grep JAVA_PKG_PORTAGE_DEP==sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 in eclass/java-utils-2.eclass (change from version 1.91 to 1.92) thank you. -- David Bonnafous Institut de Mathématiques Université Paul Sabatier Toulouse - France -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
I've done this sort of thing before, but never with one interface running dhcp. You definitely want to emerge iproute2 (which gives you the ip command), and add your interfaces to /etc/iproute2/rt_tables, for example (though in this case, 10 eth0 won't actually get used): 10 eth0 11 eth1 12 eth2 Then in /etc/conf.d/net, put: modules_eth0=(iproute2) modules_eth1=(iproute2) modules_eth2=(iproute2) config_eth0=(dhcp) config_eth1=(10.0.0.{1-10} netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255) rules_eth1=(from 10.0.0.0/24 src table eth1) routes_eth1=(10.0.0.0/24 src 10.0.0.1 table eth1 10.0.0.0/24 src 10.0.0.2 table eth1 *** and so on ***) Then do the same kind of thing for eth1. Now, I also seem to remember that I had another system that I just did everything with the ip commands in rc.local. And since you're also using dhcp, I don't know if that will muck with the routing tables everytime the IP renews itself. Hope that helps. (Also, I seem to remember finding a decent amount of information about multihoming with iproute2 on the gentoo forums) -Sean BRM wrote: Ok, first - I wasn't sure which list this should go to, so if this is the wrong list please just let me know. I am in the process of upgrading my server from a P90 running Slackware to a newer system running Gentoo 2007.0. Everything is pretty okay until I got to doing the network config. My basic config is as follows: Public DHCP'd Interface - eth0 (default gw) Private Lan Interface #1 - eth1 Private Lan Interface #2 - eth2 I also have a number of IP Aliases on the eth1 eth2. I managed this under Slack through a series of custom rc scripts, which autodetected the IP address of eth0 for use in the routing. However, I am having trouble figuring out how to do the same thing in Gentoo's conf.d/net file system. Thus far, in /etc/conf.d/net, I have the following: config_eth0(dhcp) config_eth1(list of static IP addresses) config_eth2(static ip address) I also had a route line for eth1 and eth2, but it specified the IP of eth1, not eth0 - which is unknown. I've tried the following: route_eth1(default via ${COMMAND_STRING_TO_EXTRACT_IP_OF_ETH1}) which kinda works (it does get the IP address, but fails with at adding the route - I'm not at the system right now, so I'll have to post the specific SIG name later); however, I am very much doubting that that is the right way to do what I want under Gentoo. So, my primary question is: What is the proper way to do this under Gentoo? I know I could just go and manually write versions of /etc/init.d/net.eth1/eth2, but I'd rather do it the right way if there is one, and only do that as a last resort. (And even then, wouldn't I be risking the Gentoo Configuration system replace them with symlinks?) Any how...any advice on the proper way to do this would be greatly appreciated. I really like Gentoo and really do want to keep - I use to keep Slack up-to-date manually, and just don't have the time for it anymore, which is why I'm trying Gentoo. Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
--- Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/24/07, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, first - I wasn't sure which list this should go to, so if this is the wrong list please just let me know. I am in the process of upgrading my server from a P90 running Slackware to a newer system running Gentoo 2007.0. Everything is pretty okay until I got to doing the network config. My basic config is as follows: Public DHCP'd Interface - eth0 (default gw) Private Lan Interface #1 - eth1 Private Lan Interface #2 - eth2 I also have a number of IP Aliases on the eth1 eth2. Thus far, in /etc/conf.d/net, I have the following: config_eth0(dhcp) config_eth1(list of static IP addresses) config_eth2(static ip address) What is the proper way to do this under Gentoo? eth0 gives you the default gw via DHCP, and you're trying to set a default gw for eth1, right? If so, you can't do that. There can only be one default gateway (hence the name). What are the functions of the NICs on the private networks (eth1/eth2)? Running route -n does not show any of the three interfaces set as a default gateway - all three are set as gateways (UG) though. I'm aware there can only be one _default_ gateway. I'm really trying to get the default routing to go through eth0. I still have to get to working on my firewall rules (haven't done that yet), but this is the first step. Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
I'll have to check into iproute2. Seems interesting...won't be able to try until tonight (after I get home), but will certainly share the results. Thanks, Ben. --- Sean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've done this sort of thing before, but never with one interface running dhcp. You definitely want to emerge iproute2 (which gives you the ip command), and add your interfaces to /etc/iproute2/rt_tables, for example (though in this case, 10 eth0 won't actually get used): 10 eth0 11 eth1 12 eth2 Then in /etc/conf.d/net, put: modules_eth0=(iproute2) modules_eth1=(iproute2) modules_eth2=(iproute2) config_eth0=(dhcp) config_eth1=(10.0.0.{1-10} netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.0.0.255) rules_eth1=(from 10.0.0.0/24 src table eth1) routes_eth1=(10.0.0.0/24 src 10.0.0.1 table eth1 10.0.0.0/24 src 10.0.0.2 table eth1 *** and so on ***) Then do the same kind of thing for eth1. Now, I also seem to remember that I had another system that I just did everything with the ip commands in rc.local. And since you're also using dhcp, I don't know if that will muck with the routing tables everytime the IP renews itself. Hope that helps. (Also, I seem to remember finding a decent amount of information about multihoming with iproute2 on the gentoo forums) -Sean BRM wrote: Ok, first - I wasn't sure which list this should go to, so if this is the wrong list please just let me know. I am in the process of upgrading my server from a P90 running Slackware to a newer system running Gentoo 2007.0. Everything is pretty okay until I got to doing the network config. My basic config is as follows: Public DHCP'd Interface - eth0 (default gw) Private Lan Interface #1 - eth1 Private Lan Interface #2 - eth2 I also have a number of IP Aliases on the eth1 eth2. I managed this under Slack through a series of custom rc scripts, which autodetected the IP address of eth0 for use in the routing. However, I am having trouble figuring out how to do the same thing in Gentoo's conf.d/net file system. Thus far, in /etc/conf.d/net, I have the following: config_eth0(dhcp) config_eth1(list of static IP addresses) config_eth2(static ip address) I also had a route line for eth1 and eth2, but it specified the IP of eth1, not eth0 - which is unknown. I've tried the following: route_eth1(default via ${COMMAND_STRING_TO_EXTRACT_IP_OF_ETH1}) which kinda works (it does get the IP address, but fails with at adding the route - I'm not at the system right now, so I'll have to post the specific SIG name later); however, I am very much doubting that that is the right way to do what I want under Gentoo. So, my primary question is: What is the proper way to do this under Gentoo? I know I could just go and manually write versions of /etc/init.d/net.eth1/eth2, but I'd rather do it the right way if there is one, and only do that as a last resort. (And even then, wouldn't I be risking the Gentoo Configuration system replace them with symlinks?) Any how...any advice on the proper way to do this would be greatly appreciated. I really like Gentoo and really do want to keep - I use to keep Slack up-to-date manually, and just don't have the time for it anymore, which is why I'm trying Gentoo. Thanks, Ben -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Friday 24 August 2007, David Bonnafous wrote: hi, I'm working to get a stable portage overlay to keep ebuild and files I used to build my system. But even if I keep the ebuild and all the files needed, the command emerge --sync introduces some dependencies by modifying eclass. How can I know (localize) this kind of dependencies ? I found the first one using grep JAVA_PKG_PORTAGE_DEP==sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 in eclass/java-utils-2.eclass (change from version 1.91 to 1.92) Sounds like you want to keep the old eclass around inside the overlay and let portage update ${PORTDIR}/eclass/* as it sees fit? I have this setup, I simply created an eclass directory in my overlay directory, added the ebuild to the overlay, and the ebuilds started using the overlay version of the eclass. Something like: /var/portage/local/alan/eclass/ is where I put my eclasses. -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Friday 24 August 2007 18:49:38 Alan McKinnon wrote: Sounds like you want to keep the old eclass around inside the overlay and let portage update ${PORTDIR}/eclass/* as it sees fit? I have this setup, I simply created an eclass directory in my overlay directory, added the ebuild to the overlay, and the ebuilds started using the overlay version of the eclass. Something like: /var/portage/local/alan/eclass/ is where I put my eclasses. Uh, that will cause the eclasses in ${PORTDIR} to be overshadowed (just like the same version of any ebuild in the overlay will overshadow the ebuilds in ${PORTDIR}. If you really want to keep two trees separate and use them both, you should use a package manager that has proper support for multiple repositories (like Paludis ;)... -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del (reboot) worked. Now, to make it clear, I solved that: after finding out that I could make a bootable GRUB CD, I made one from within a live-CD (c't Knoppicillin 5.2). I was then able to boot into Gentoo with it and reinstalled GRUB into the MBR. Don't you just love GRUB ;-)? What I *do* want to know, however, is how the hell the MBR could have been wrecked in the first place. All I did was install the new kernel/initramfs via $ genkernel --lvm2 --symlink --install all [1] , edit grub.conf appropriately and reboot. It worked flawlessly until now. Is Genkernel known to cause anything like this? For the record: I have a Windows partition, but never use it[3]. So I can't imagine how that might be related. In the event that it helps, here's a list of the packages that were updated to yesterday: =net-misc/rsync-2.6.9-r3 =media-sound/madplay-0.15.2b-r1 =media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.9-r1 =sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r5 =app-misc/beagle-0.2.17 =app-arch/tar-1.18-r2 Also, just to understand the issue better, am I correct in assuming that GRUB *always* installs its stage1 into the MBR or a boot sector (unless you install it onto a floppy or CD)? I know it's a stupid question, but I want to be sure that it was in the MBR in the first place, in the event that there was a completely different cause. If it helps, this was originally a Sabayon 3.20 install. A lot has changed since the initial install, though ;-). Of course, it could just be random disk corruption, but I sure hope not. - SATA drive: Seagate ST3320620AS - Motherboard: Asus M2N-E This computer was assembled about 9 months ago. Any information appreciated, Marc Joliet [1] The --symlink option[2] is for my second GRUB CD, which has entries for the Symlinks. That way, I can always use those entries no matter the kernel version :-). [2] For those without Genkernel: --symlink creates two Symlinks to the newest kernels and optionally to the newest initramfs'. [3] I tested Windows and can boot into it after reinstalling GRUB. -- Of course, I could switch back to Windows. At least there, if I have a problem, I don't suffer under the illusion that I could ever fix it. - Unknown (paraphrased) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [gentoo-user] dependencies from eclass and from ebuild
On Friday 24 August 2007 18:24:33 David Bonnafous wrote: I'm working to get a stable portage overlay to keep ebuild and files I used to build my system. But even if I keep the ebuild and all the files needed, the command emerge --sync introduces some dependencies by modifying eclass. How can I know (localize) this kind of dependencies ? I found the first one using grep JAVA_PKG_PORTAGE_DEP==sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.7 in eclass/java-utils-2.eclass (change from version 1.91 to 1.92) I didn't quite understand what this question is about. Are you trying to figure out why that dependency were added? What do you intend to do with this overlay? Why do you sync at all? -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Treason uncloaked! solution?
Hi, On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:55:06 -0500 Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It usually means that the other side of the TCP connection reduced the window to zero size, thus leading stupid TCP stacks to save information on a basically starved connection. The kernel just sends an information to the log, so in case if you recognize the IP and are in charge of the sender, you'll know that it has a very broken TCP stack. Essentially: Just ignore it, if the sender IP doesn't belong to one of your own networks. I found a line in my Treason-related output that pointed to an internal IP on a distcc port. Should I be worried about this computer? It's running a brand new gentoo install and is solely for the purpose of distcc. Hm. I don't think so, but I'm not that deep into TCP that I could easily tell some circumstances when such things can happen and if it indicates a bug by all means. There might be a slight possibility that the packet sender was forged. It depends on your uplink whether such packets can get through. Additionally, when inside a potentially hostile LAN, you can't trust any IP adresses. If it's just a single line, I'd ignore it, I think. But there's no good reason I could give for that proposal, except of some absent feeling that anything would be wrong. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del (reboot) worked. At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up. Now, to make it clear, I solved that: after finding out that I could make a bootable GRUB CD, I made one from within a live-CD (c't Knoppicillin 5.2). I was then able to boot into Gentoo with it and reinstalled GRUB into the MBR. Don't you just love GRUB ;-)? What I *do* want to know, however, is how the hell the MBR could have been wrecked in the first place. I doubt that the MBR was wrecked, because if it were wrecked you wouldn't see the Grub prompt and would just get a BIOS message. All I did was install the new kernel/initramfs via $ genkernel --lvm2 --symlink --install all [1] , edit grub.conf appropriately and reboot. It worked flawlessly until now. Is Genkernel known to cause anything like this? Sorry, can't help with this because I have no genkernel experience . . . Also, just to understand the issue better, am I correct in assuming that GRUB *always* installs its stage1 into the MBR or a boot sector (unless you install it onto a floppy or CD)? I know it's a stupid question, but I want to be sure that it was in the MBR in the first place, in the event that there was a completely different cause. If it helps, this was originally a Sabayon 3.20 install. A lot has changed since the initial install, though ;-). I have no experience with Sabayon either, but Grub will install wherever you tell it to install. That can be in the Master Boot Record (e.g. system (hd0,0) or in any partition's boot record (e.g. system (hd0,1). Of course, it could just be random disk corruption, but I sure hope not. It could be a semi-random fs corruption, if e.g. you run out of juice, or there was a hard crash, while that file was being read/written. If your /boot is not mounted by default then that's probably unlikely. If the machine is a laptop, or someone kicked the box while the disk was spinning then things could go bad this way too. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Server Network Configuration
Mark Shields wrote: eth0 gives you the default gw via DHCP, and you're trying to set a default gw for eth1, right? If so, you can't do that. There can only be one default gateway (hence the name). What are the functions of the NICs on the private networks (eth1/eth2)? router geek hat on You can have as many default gateways or perhaps gateway of last resort or the least specific gateway are better names as your routing engine can support. There is nothing special about a default gateway. It's just a route like all other routes, just far less specific. By default Linux uses the first 0.0.0.0/0 route you set. However by turning on advanced routing in the kernel you can configure more than one. Unfortunately Linux will do per packet instead of the fancier per TCP stream that most routers do by default these days. Per packet round robins between your gateways and can cause packets to arrive out of order in some cases. Per stream, this isn't quite the right terminology but you get the idea, has the downside that one large connection like your db backing up to a remote server can swamp a single gateway. Going back to the original question I don't you're having a routing problem though I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing. Once a packet reaches any interface of your route/firewall the Linux should be aware of all local networks. Unless you're routing specific non connected networks to various interfaces you shouldn't need any additional routes. A netstat -rn should look roughly like this: Kernel IP routing table Destination GatewayGenmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 24.x.x.43 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 lo 10.x.11.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 10.x.12.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1:0 10.x.21.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth2 10.x.22.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth2:0 0.0.0.024.x.x.10.0.0.0 UG0 0 0 eth0 However unless you have enabled ip_forward on your router, Linux is unlikely to route packets from one interface to another. I'm betting that's your problem. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:24:02AM +0100, Mick wrote Could you try passing to the kernel the keyboard parameter at this stage? I am thinking of something like: gentoo keyboard=gb or keyboard=41, or whatever. There don't seem to be any such parameters. I did read through the file /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt and tried various iterations of gentoo atkbd.foobar=n No luck. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
You could always install via a knoppix livecd, since knoppix seems to be the best around for odd hardware. There's really nothing special about the gentoo livecd as far as being able to install gentoo. Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 08:24:02AM +0100, Mick wrote Could you try passing to the kernel the keyboard parameter at this stage? I am thinking of something like: gentoo keyboard=gb or keyboard=41, or whatever. There don't seem to be any such parameters. I did read through the file /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt and tried various iterations of gentoo atkbd.foobar=n No luck. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Hi, After the reboot following my daily upgrade from yesterday - during which a revised kernel was installed - GRUB just wouldn't finish starting. It's attempt to start looked like this: GRUB _ with the underscore blinking. Ctrl-alt-del (reboot) worked. At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up. Yes, I should have. I know it was there, though, since I mounted /boot/ in the live-CD to check if I had made a typo. However, I doubt that was the problem, since I copied the menu.lst for inclusion in the grub.iso and it worked. Note that on my System menu.lst is a Symlink to grub.conf. If this isn't standard Gentoo, please let me know. Also, does grub root (hd0,5) grub setup (hd0) touch anything other than the MBR and stages if you already have a boot partition installed? Of course, I didn't keep record of grubs output, so, yeah... there goes all potentially useful information. However, could it be related to bug 189934? Reading through the linked bug 132135, I switched /lib and /lib64, so instead of /lib64 being a Symlink to /lib, /lib is now a Symlink to /lib64. Now, to make it clear, I solved that: after finding out that I could make a bootable GRUB CD, I made one from within a live-CD (c't Knoppicillin 5.2). I was then able to boot into Gentoo with it and reinstalled GRUB into the MBR. Don't you just love GRUB ;-)? What I *do* want to know, however, is how the hell the MBR could have been wrecked in the first place. I doubt that the MBR was wrecked, because if it were wrecked you wouldn't see the Grub prompt and would just get a BIOS message. Heh, that's obvious *blushes*... However, I didn't really mean completely hosed. Could it have been a broken stage1 that only started in part, or the like? All I did was install the new kernel/initramfs via $ genkernel --lvm2 --symlink --install all [1] , edit grub.conf appropriately and reboot. It worked flawlessly until now. Is Genkernel known to cause anything like this? Sorry, can't help with this because I have no genkernel experience . . . OK. I don't think it was Genkernel, anyway. Also, just to understand the issue better, am I correct in assuming that GRUB *always* installs its stage1 into the MBR or a boot sector (unless you install it onto a floppy or CD)? I know it's a stupid question, but I want to be sure that it was in the MBR in the first place, in the event that there was a completely different cause. If it helps, this was originally a Sabayon 3.20 install. A lot has changed since the initial install, though ;-). I have no experience with Sabayon either, but Grub will install wherever you tell it to install. That can be in the Master Boot Record (e.g. system (hd0,0) or in any partition's boot record (e.g. system (hd0,1). OK, so nothing new, then. I just mentioned Sabayon in the event there was a known problem with how it set up GRUB. Because then I could have found out if it was the MBR or not. I did just check the Sabayon Bugzilla for bugs related to GRUB and MBR and found nothing relevant. Oh well. Of course, it could just be random disk corruption, but I sure hope not. It could be a semi-random fs corruption, if e.g. you run out of juice, or there was a hard crash, while that file was being read/written. If your /boot is not mounted by default then that's probably unlikely. If the machine is a laptop, or someone kicked the box while the disk was spinning then things could go bad this way too. Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 which is how it was installed (except for noauto, of course). Thanks for the info, Marc Joliet -- Of course, I could switch back to Windows. At least there, if I have a problem, I'm not under the illusion that I could ever fix it. - Unknown (paraphrased) signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
[gentoo-user] AutoCad2000 on wine
Hello, Noodling around, I ran across a web page that said autocad2000 would run on wine and gentoo. Naturally, I just had to test this out. It was really quite easy. Ivman picked up the install cd and as root I issued this command: wine /media/sr0/autorun.exe then It ran to 99% completion, looking like it hung on fonts: wine: creating configuration directory '/root/.wine'... wine: '/root/.wine' created successfully. ixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x17793c, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1148de, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x113900, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1450bc, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x144750, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x17825a, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x171298, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x175eaa, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1604cf, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x176c3a, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x14622e, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x143f70, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x183546, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x172000, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x173da2, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x174458, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12ba1f, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12aeb8, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12c3d5, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x179195, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1a4d4c, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1a5260, enabling work-around I do remember some (google) noise about fonts (mostlikely missing MS fonts, so does anyone know where I van find these fonts, or or how to extract them from win98,2k,2000 or XP? Since this is my first foray into wine country, any and all suggestions are most welcome. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] possible MBR corruption?
On Friday 24 August 2007, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Freitag, den 24.08.2007, 19:42 +0100 schrieb Mick: At that stage you should have checked if the symlink /boot/grub/menu.lst is still there and, or if its permissions were messed up. Yes, I should have. I know it was there, though, since I mounted /boot/ in the live-CD to check if I had made a typo. However, I doubt that was the problem, since I copied the menu.lst for inclusion in the grub.iso and it worked. Hmm, in that case then the symlink may not have been the problem. Note that on my System menu.lst is a Symlink to grub.conf. If this isn't standard Gentoo, please let me know. Yes, this is the default gentoo: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Mar 26 2006 menu.lst - grub.conf Also, does grub root (hd0,5) grub setup (hd0) touch anything other than the MBR and stages if you already have a boot partition installed? Of course, I didn't keep record of grubs output, so, yeah... there goes all potentially useful information. OK, the above commands install Grub boot code in the MBR of the first hard disk and the Grub fs in the /boot directory within /dev/hda6. I assume that your /boot directory is meant to be in /dev/hda6? However, could it be related to bug 189934? Reading through the linked bug 132135, I switched /lib and /lib64, so instead of /lib64 being a Symlink to /lib, /lib is now a Symlink to /lib64. From a cursory look, I don't think so. I doubt that the MBR was wrecked, because if it were wrecked you wouldn't see the Grub prompt and would just get a BIOS message. Heh, that's obvious *blushes*... However, I didn't really mean completely hosed. Could it have been a broken stage1 that only started in part, or the like? Could be I guess, but I'm not sure. I have no experience with Sabayon either, but Grub will install wherever you tell it to install. That can be in the Master Boot Record (e.g. system (hd0,0) oops! I meant to say: system (hd0) or in any partition's boot record (e.g. system (hd0,1). [snip] Yeah, I should have set noauto the instant I found out about it. Any other recommended mount options? Right now they are defaults,noauto,user_xattr 1 2 which is how it was installed (except for noauto, of course). These options look OK to me as long as you remember to manually mount /boot every time you are installing a new kernel. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] AutoCad2000 on wine
Wow .. you are one brave soul fiddling around with windows software and wine as root. James wrote: Hello, Noodling around, I ran across a web page that said autocad2000 would run on wine and gentoo. Naturally, I just had to test this out. It was really quite easy. Ivman picked up the install cd and as root I issued this command: wine /media/sr0/autorun.exe then It ran to 99% completion, looking like it hung on fonts: wine: creating configuration directory '/root/.wine'... wine: '/root/.wine' created successfully. ixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x17793c, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1148de, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x113900, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1450bc, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x144750, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x17825a, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x171298, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x175eaa, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1604cf, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x176c3a, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x14622e, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x143f70, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x183546, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x172000, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x173da2, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x174458, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12ba1f, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12aeb8, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x12c3d5, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x179195, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1a4d4c, enabling work-around fixme:seh:check_no_exec No-exec fault triggered at 0x1a5260, enabling work-around I do remember some (google) noise about fonts (mostlikely missing MS fonts, so does anyone know where I van find these fonts, or or how to extract them from win98,2k,2000 or XP? Since this is my first foray into wine country, any and all suggestions are most welcome. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: AutoCad2000 on wine
Sean sjohnson at sbinsystems.com writes: Wow .. you are one brave soul fiddling around with windows software and wine as root. Yea that was just to see if it makes a difference. The machine is very isolated from the net It's got the same (font problems) installed as a user too. Any ideas where I can find all of those windows/acad fonts: comsc.ttf romantic.ttf swiss.ttf snip etc etc ??? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: AutoCad2000 on wine
Heheheh. No, but you might try setting up an alias to a font you do have. If you fire up regedit, and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows NT/CurrentVersion/ you should be able to create a FontSubstitues folder and define substitues. I've never actually done it, but seem to remember folks talking about it somewhere. Or even under Fonts, if you define the font name and then tell it to use a different .ttf file perhaps. James wrote: Sean sjohnson at sbinsystems.com writes: Wow .. you are one brave soul fiddling around with windows software and wine as root. Yea that was just to see if it makes a difference. The machine is very isolated from the net It's got the same (font problems) installed as a user too. Any ideas where I can find all of those windows/acad fonts: comsc.ttf romantic.ttf swiss.ttf snip etc etc ??? James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 04:21:47PM -0400, Sean wrote You could always install via a knoppix livecd, since knoppix seems to be the best around for odd hardware. There's really nothing special about the gentoo livecd as far as being able to install gentoo. Same old same old. Gentoo and Knoppix and Xubuntu all... a) fail to find the install CD after the initial stages of booting b) double up keystrokes after the initial stages of booting Of course, Vista works on the system. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux /sbin/init is Job #1 Q. Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of Microsoft security? A. I think it would be a good idea. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] how list all emerged portages?
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Re: [gentoo-user] how list all emerged portages?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't install Gentoo on Dell Inspiron 530
On Saturday 25 August 2007, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 04:21:47PM -0400, Sean wrote You could always install via a knoppix livecd, since knoppix seems to be the best around for odd hardware. There's really nothing special about the gentoo livecd as far as being able to install gentoo. Same old same old. Gentoo and Knoppix and Xubuntu all... a) fail to find the install CD after the initial stages of booting b) double up keystrokes after the initial stages of booting Of course, Vista works on the system. g Well, if keyboard=X, nokeymap, etc., won't work even in Knoppix (which is tad richer in kernel parameters than the Gentoo LiveCD) then I can only suggest two things: a)Ubuntu, SUSE, Fedora, SLAX, FreeSBIE, LiveCDs - just in case they have the required driver. b)Plugging in an external keyboard, which is hopefully recognised. If all else fails, can you return it and get another make/model? Good luck. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.