Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg.conf changes and dual screen setup
Since you are describing a TV out it might be your tertiary screen. When I type xrandr with no arguments I get Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1600 x 1200, maximum 1920 x 1920 VGA connected 1600x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right) 0mm x 0mm 1920x1440 60.0 1600x1200 60.0* 1280x960 60.0 LVDS connected (normal left inverted right) 1680x1050 60.0 + 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 640x48059.9 TV disconnected (normal left inverted right) VGA is what I would call the secondary (for me it is an external monitor, I believe it is always the monitor attached via the VGA or DVI output, LVDS is the screen on the laptop. Presumably TV is the signal to drive a TV (I never used mine). I don't know wheather the TV is secondary or tertiary, when i type xrandr with no options i just get the output of my primary monitor, as randr is not supported. I am not exactly sure which output i get as i have no access to my box at the moment, but i will check this. If you type xrandr --output TV --off does it stop driving the TV? That is what the manual suggests will happen. If not than it seems the nvidia driver isn't supporting randr 1.2. Perhaps that was what was meant by wont fix, nvidia bug. I guess a fix for this from nvidia will take ages as usually, is anybody out there who got tv-out working with the opensource driver from xorg with nvidia? Or do we have to wait for nouveau, mabe it does a better job! Regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Lenovo distro poll
I have not seen this link here, but I think it's worth it. Vote, please! ;) http://lenovoblogs.com/insidethebox/?p=98 I'm going to put another poll question up asking which Linux you all would like to see offered. -- Peter. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
Hello Roy Wright, Until that time will probably just keep masking xorg-server and hope I remember to unmask xorg-x11 at that time. That's probably the most sane approach, unless you want to remove the blocker from the ebuild and try the new XOrg with Nvidia. Masking =xorg-server-1.4 is not a good idea, because then you'll miss the removal of the blocker, when Nvidia release new drivers. This seems inelegant. So I'm hoping someone has a better approach. It is inelegant, but portage doesn't have an elegant way of handling this situation. A blocker isn't really the right way to do this, that is meant to be used when two packages install the same file(s). This is in incompatibility between versions, but portage doesn't have a way of saying don't try to install foo-1.4 if bar-2.7 is installed. -- Neil Bothwick Windows will never cease. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot situation
Colleen Beamer wrote: 5) I did the step: zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-conf-2.6 This grabs the configuration from the running kernel (the one from the CD you booted from), not the configuration you may have had earlier on the system you chrooted into. Did you tweak that earlier configuration? Do you have a backup of that config somewhere? The ran 'genkernel --menuconfig all' Does this also install the kernel onto the /boot partition? (Just asking, as I don't know genkernel.) Are name and version numbers in /boot/grub/menu.lst exactly the same as the kernel and initrd stored in /boot? Output from e2fsck for /dev/sda3 is: It said /dev/sda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced? If you run the same command again, is /dev/sda3 now clean? Although the fstab and grub.conf are exactly what they were before hitting that damned Media Direct button. But since then a new kernel source tree might have been installed, which you might not have compiled and installed yet. So the version numbers may have changed. Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Roy Wright wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: remove the blocker? the current nvidia-drivers work fine, if you add -ignoreAbi to your X-start script (like kdm conf). The problem is that any nvidia-driver is the blocker to xorg-server-1.4-r1. royw-gentoo portage # emerge -uDNpv world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating world dependencies... done! [ebuild N] x11-libs/pixman-0.9.5 USE=-debug 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r1 [1.3.0.0] USE=dri hal%* ipv6 nptl sdl xorg xprint -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300 -elographics -evdev -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -synaptics -tek4957 -ur98 -vmmouse -void -wacom VIDEO_CARDS=nv vesa vmware -amd% -apm -ark -chips -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -glint -i128 -i740 -i810 (-impact) -imstt -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nsc -r128 -radeon -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2) (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion% -vga -via -voodoo -xgi% (-fglrx%) (-nvidia%*) 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.2.2 [1.1.1-r1] USE=-debug 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3 [7.2] 0 kB [blocks B ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers (is blocking x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r1) Total: 4 packages (3 upgrades, 1 new, 1 block), Size of downloads: 0 kB Looking in the xorg-server-1.4-r1.ebuild: IUSE_VIDEO_CARDS= [snip] # video_cards_fglrx # video_cards_nvidia [snip] PDEPEND= xorg? ( [snip] !x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers !x11-drivers/ati-drivers ) # video_cards_nvidia? ( x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ) # video_cards_fglrx? ( =x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.37.6 ) I recall reading that the xserver team changed their release policy to not hold up releases for proprietary drivers (same as the kernel team). So this is as expected. I was just hoping someone would have a more elegant management solution for handling the new situation. Thank you, Roy copy the ebuild into your overlay and edit it. No problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:36:13 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Roy Wright wrote: Howdy, Well, I had to local mask =x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r1 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.4 =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3 today to keep portage from blocking. My guess is that eventually a new version of nvidia-drivers will be available and a new revision of xorg-server will arrive that will support it (no longer block all versions of nvidia-drivers). Until that time will probably just keep masking xorg-server and hope I remember to unmask xorg-x11 at that time. This seems inelegant. So I'm hoping someone has a better approach. The really inelegant solution would be not to have the blocker. Most people would just update without looking even at the emerge -puDvN world output, and them complain on a huge and useless thread on the forums, because something broke :P If you have the blocker, you can't screw up the thing. Blockers are the only solution for incompatible packages, and the new xorg version is incompatible with all the nvidia-drivers version. In fact, no future version of xorg will fix this, since it is completely nvidia-side. So, I would change your snipped above by this one: =x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r1 =x11-base/xorg-server-1.4 =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.3 Note, the '=' in front of the packages, those are not quotations starting with '', but '=', because any new version will have the same problem (since as I said, the problem is in the drivers, that are just outdated). If you have to incompatible packages, you need to decide what your priority is, period. There is no way around that, until nvidia decides to release a new version that is compatible with the new abi. remove the blocker? the current nvidia-drivers work fine, if you add -ignoreAbi to your X-start script (like kdm conf). So the nvidia people say. Though I can confirm that in my installation it doesn't work. It just lockups (and yes, I am sure that X composite was off, because I always have it off). and I can confirm, that it works very well. With composite turned on. ut2004 and vegastrike-svn. Without lockups. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] keeping ati-drivers 8.34.8 in portage
Hi, Due to the recent X updates, portage wants to upgrade ati-drivers. I am having problems with all ati-drivers newer than 8.34.8 [1], so what is the official way to make sure 8.34.8 stays there until a newer version is released that fixes these problems? Is just filing a bug against a specific version enough? (I already know how to mask the newer xorg versions, no probs) The bug I did file [2] was marked resolved, upstream, but I only mentioned the latest release of ati-drivers, not all of them. I've also found out a bit more since then. So what's the official way to keep an ebuild around? I noticed there are quite a few versions in /usr/portage/x11-drivers/ati-drivers, but maybe not for long?! thanks, [1] see previous post Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fglrx and posix shared mem [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185825 -- Iain Buchanan iain at pcorp dot com dot au Homer: I keep hearing this horrible irregular thumping noise. Pump Jockey: It's your heart. And I think it's on its last thump. Homer: Whew, I was afraid it was my transmission. Homer's Triple Bypass -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot situation
Benno Schulenberg wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: 5) I did the step: zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-conf-2.6 This grabs the configuration from the running kernel (the one from the CD you booted from), not the configuration you may have had earlier on the system you chrooted into. Did you tweak that earlier configuration? Do you have a backup of that config somewhere? I doubt that it grabs the kernel running from the CD, 'cause when I run 'genkernel --menuconfig all' the kernel config that is brought up does *not* have any AMD stuff in it. I removed that from the kernel because I don't have an AMD system. In this process, I followed the relevant steps in the Handbook, but I *didn't* emerge any software. For instance, I didn't emerge genkernel or gentoo-sources because they are already on the hard drive. I can try re-emerging these to see if it will help. I will point out the /usr/src/linux symlink points to the right sources. The ran 'genkernel --menuconfig all' Does this also install the kernel onto the /boot partition? (Just asking, as I don't know genkernel.) Are name and version numbers in /boot/grub/menu.lst exactly the same as the kernel and initrd stored in /boot? I'll check this. Output from e2fsck for /dev/sda3 is: It said /dev/sda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced? If you run the same command again, is /dev/sda3 now clean? Yes. Although the fstab and grub.conf are exactly what they were before hitting that damned Media Direct button. But since then a new kernel source tree might have been installed, which you might not have compiled and installed yet. No, I use gentoo-sources and I have the latest stable version. I did an emerge --sync and the an emerge --pretend --update --deep world in the chroot'd environment and the list of files returned did not include an updated gentoo-sources ebuild Regards, Colleen -- Registered Linux User #411143 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:28:24 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remove the blocker? the current nvidia-drivers work fine, if you add -ignoreAbi to your X-start script (like kdm conf). So the nvidia people say. Though I can confirm that in my installation it doesn't work. It just lockups (and yes, I am sure that X composite was off, because I always have it off). and I can confirm, that it works very well. With composite turned on. ut2004 and vegastrike-svn. Without lockups. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Well, that means it works for me, which is not_equal to it works. That doesn't justify an advice like the one you gave above, because it could be a problem for that person. At least, a warning should be given, and that's what I did. In any case, something I wouldn't recommend anyway, since, regardless if it works on a punctual case or not, the only truth is that if you update Xorg the ABI will be broken. Plus, what's the need to upgrade? -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:53:04 -0400 Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: � Guerrero wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:36:13 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the nvidia people say. Though I can confirm that in my installation it doesn't work. It just lockups (and yes, I am sure that X composite was off, because I always have it off). The lockup is probably caused by having the hal use flag set when you compile xorg-server. If you disable it you should be able to run the X server without conflicting with hal/dbus which was the problem. Can you give me some more info/links or pointers about the reasoning behind this? Why should hal be a problem when it always worked without a single problem? Or maybe a misunderstood you and you mean that is the conjunction of a broken driver (nvidia) and the hal stuff, bit in that case the guilty is not hal anyway, but the driver. Also, I wonder why would I want to run X without hal/dbus support :P Thanks. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:28:24 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: remove the blocker? the current nvidia-drivers work fine, if you add -ignoreAbi to your X-start script (like kdm conf). So the nvidia people say. Though I can confirm that in my installation it doesn't work. It just lockups (and yes, I am sure that X composite was off, because I always have it off). and I can confirm, that it works very well. With composite turned on. ut2004 and vegastrike-svn. Without lockups. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Well, that means it works for me, which is not_equal to it works. it works for several people in the nvidia forum. With no 'it does not work' messages. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] keeping ati-drivers 8.34.8 in portage
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, Iain Buchanan wrote: Hi, Due to the recent X updates, portage wants to upgrade ati-drivers. I am having problems with all ati-drivers newer than 8.34.8 [1], so what is the official way to make sure 8.34.8 stays there until a newer version is released that fixes these problems? Is just filing a bug against a specific version enough? I think filing a bug isn;t enough as a dev can easily remove the ebuild you need from the tree anyway. You should copy the 8.34.8 ebuild to a personal overlay, and mask 8.34.8 as an interim measure alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you give me some more info/links or pointers about the reasoning behind this? Why should hal be a problem when it always worked without a single problem? Maybe because xorg-server-1.4 is the first to have the hal USE flag. This would imply that previous version of X did not use hal/dbus. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:31:02 +0100 Graham Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you give me some more info/links or pointers about the reasoning behind this? Why should hal be a problem when it always worked without a single problem? Maybe because xorg-server-1.4 is the first to have the hal USE flag. This would imply that previous version of X did not use hal/dbus. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I see, but why has this been enabled if it is supposed to be the cause of lockups? That is, in case it really it is, because for now I have no proof on that, and I would better suspect of a broken abi than hal. I am not trying to argue, but trying to find any info on the issue. I can't find any references to unstability in xorg created by the introduction of hal. So, I see no reason to suspect about hal, which has always been a stable piece of my system. While an ABI breakage is far more suspicious for me. Again, I just want to see additional info on this if there is any. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Upgrade
Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) Thank you emilio -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
when was your last sync update? Am Dienstag, 11. September 2007 15:27:53 schrieb econti: Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) Thank you emilio -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:20:16 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: it works for several people in the nvidia forum. With no 'it does not work' messages. If we're taking a vote, it works for me too, although the option is -ignoreABI, not -ignoreAbi. So the consensus is that, while it may well not work for all, it certainly is likely to work for most, so it is worth trying. It's not like this is a system-critical package that will stop you booting, the worst that can happen is that you are without a desktop for a few minutes. It would be prudent to quickpkg the previous version in xorg-server (unless you have buildpkg in FEATURES) so that you can switch back quickly if you do have a problem. -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh, as Satan laid his soul to waste. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:27:53 +0200 econti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) It's impossible, since it doesn't only depends on the installed software. It also depends on many other factors: 1.- the time when you did the last update 2.- the number of packages that has updates, which is not always related to the number of packages you have installed, but to _what_ packages do you have installed. Some packages doesn't get updates too frequently, while others change a lot. 3.- external factors, like overlays It just depends on _what_ needs to be updated. I can give you a few hints, though. Most packages can compile in a reasonable amount of time. Some specific packages will take longer to compile. You will learn to identify them with the time. For example, openoffice if probably the largest, and can take from several hours up to days, depending on your hardware. Some kde packages are big, like kmail. Qt or Gtk as intermediate things. Glibc and gcc can take a lot of time, as xorg-server, for example. Whe you are doing the update, you have to know a few things. On first place, use this instead of your command above: merge --update --deep --newuse --verbose --ask world This will present you with a list of the packages that will be updated, that way, you know how many packages are going to be updated, but, more important, you will know _what_ packages will be merged. The depclean and revdep steps shouldn't be too time consuming on a sane system. So, if you use them regularly, those steps will not rob much of your time. The sync step depends on your connection speed and the time since your last sync. It can take a few minutes on a fast connection if your tree is up to date. But it can take a day on a 56k modem if you tree is empty or way too outdated. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On 9/12/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:20:16 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
it works for several people in the nvidia forum. With no 'it does not
work' messages.
If we're taking a vote, it works for me too, although the option is
-ignoreABI, not -ignoreAbi.
So the consensus is that, while it may well not work for all, it
certainly is likely to work for most, so it is worth trying. It's not
like this is a system-critical package that will stop you booting, the
worst that can happen is that you are without a desktop for a few minutes.
It would be prudent to quickpkg the previous version in xorg-server
(unless you have buildpkg in FEATURES) so that you can switch back
quickly if you do have a problem.
--
Neil Bothwick
Bother, said Pooh, as Satan laid his soul to waste.
/me votes for the +omgbrokednvidiazbutinstallzanywayz USE flag.
Just to mock the lunacy ;)
( this should of course, toggle the -fomgoptimize CFLAG too )
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Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:46:04 +0100 Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:20:16 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: it works for several people in the nvidia forum. With no 'it does not work' messages. If we're taking a vote, it works for me too, although the option is -ignoreABI, not -ignoreAbi. Yes, I know. So the consensus is that, while it may well not work for all, it certainly is likely to work for most, so it is worth trying. It's not like this is a system-critical package that will stop you booting, the worst that can happen is that you are without a desktop for a few minutes. It would be prudent to quickpkg the previous version in xorg-server (unless you have buildpkg in FEATURES) so that you can switch back quickly if you do have a problem. Yep, that's what I do in these cases. It saves a lot of pain. Not that xorg is vital for me anyway. I am mostly a GNU Screen user ;) Anyway, since there's the blocker, one is supposed to know what s/he is doing if decides to override it. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
econti wrote: Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) Thank you emilio You may want to add a -p behind that --depclean at first. Just to make sure it doesn't remove something you want to keep. I usually even put a -p on the end of revdep-rebuild just to be safe. Mine always wants to rebuild gcc when it doesn't need it. It's a known feature. ;-) As for the time it takes, it depends on what all packages have been updated. If it has been a while, then it will take a while to do them all. If there has been a major upgrade to gcc, then it will certainly take a while. Dale :-) :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
econti wrote this: Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) Thank you emilio I'm pretty sure that it'll take less than a year... ;) just kidding... The most it can take is the time of a complete new install, i guess. begin:vcard fn:Rodrigo Forlin n:Forlin;Rodrigo email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:+551194952922 note;quoted-printable:Linux registered user # 226673=0D=0A= http://counter.li.org/ x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How do you handle new Xorg + nvidia + ~x86?
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:56:49 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: Yep, that's what I do in these cases. It saves a lot of pain. Not that xorg is vital for me anyway. I am mostly a GNU Screen user ;) Me too, but screen is at its best when run in Konsole :) -- Neil Bothwick Q: Why is top-posting evil? A: backwards read don't humans because signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
After you emerge --sync, run emerge -NDpvu world and post here the output - the list of software your system wants to install/upgrade - that should give us a better idea of what kind of an upgrade we're dealing with here. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, econti wrote: Hi everybody, this is my first post on the list. Well, I'm running a 2.6.15-gentoo-r7 2006.0 on a AMD64 machine. Now I'd like to make a world upgrade. I know that I should run the following commands: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? (sure, it depends on the installed software, but please give me an approximation) Ouch. That's 2 years of stuff you need to update. Set aside 48 hours if you have gnome/kde or openoffice installed. With that amount of updates, I would recommend you run 'emerge -e world' instead of 'emerge -uND world' - there aren't that many packages that have not changed so you might as well do everything in order. You will also need to go to Gentoo docs and read up on the upgrade guide for gcc-3.3 to gcc-3.4, plus the xorg-6.8 to xorg-7.0 transistion. Both those upgrades happened in this timeframe and both bit many people in the rear end. alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:27:53 +0200, econti wrote: A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? emerge genlop emerge -upDN world | genlop -p and see for yourself :) -- Neil Bothwick I just bought a microwave fireplace... You can spend an evening in front of it in only eight minutes... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
Denis wrote: After you emerge --sync, run emerge -NDpvu world and post here the output - the list of software your system wants to install/upgrade - that should give us a better idea of what kind of an upgrade we're dealing with here. Watch for the expat change; http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-4221615.html?sid=c956443709264a787cdfc1e8648b16f5 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
A quick question / addition to this. When I am finished with an update I usually run etc-update. I was told last week that this has been phased out and dispatch-conf is better to use. What is the difference? Gary Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:27:53 +0200, econti wrote: A little question: how long does it take to complete the upgrade? emerge genlop emerge -upDN world | genlop -p and see for yourself :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 16:53:58 Gary Rickert wrote: A quick question / addition to this. It's not exactly related. In the future start a new thread instead and please don't top-post.. When I am finished with an update I usually run etc-update. I was told last week that this has been phased out and dispatch-conf is better to use. Whoever told you that is just wrong. What is the difference? Read it in the handbook.. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=4 -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: keeping ati-drivers 8.34.8 in portage
Iain Buchanan iain at pcorp.com.au writes: Hi, Due to the recent X updates, portage wants to upgrade ati-drivers. I am having problems with all ati-drivers newer than 8.34.8 Hello Iain, Like you, I have had some issues with ati-drivers, particularly with newer [580} chipsets. I went to an ATI site and poke around reading for a while. I've been using 8.39.4 for quite some time on 2 newer systems and it is stable(or at least with the 3D game bzflag) and normal workstation usage. My experience is trial and error, burning lots of time before you find an ati-driver that works good with your chipset. I'm not sure the criteria or who marks ati-drivers as stable, but, ati-drivers-8.39.4 would get an affirmative from me. hth, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xorg 7.3
How I pass -ingoreABI to KDE? I want to use the nvidia binary driver with the new X but the ABI has changed. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:59:03 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll attach relevant ifconfig, route and iptables -L output. Hm, OK. This: snip Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 10.8.0.1 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere 10.8.0.1 DROP all -- !10.8.0.1 anywhere snip is on what computer? On the server (I guess it's the router) the last line would effectively prevent routing for the client (but I don't know why ICMP works...). I would suggest starting without it and then setting up proper rules -- and then setting the chain's policy to DROP (plus some REJECT rules for proper answers). Dan's hint is also worth investigating. BTW: use route/ifconfig/netstat/iptables' -n switch to make analysis easier! -hwh I followed the howto's nomenclature of server and client. I'm a bit puzzled right now. Is there anything essentially wrong with the howto ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_quick_routing )? I followed it word by word. The drop rule is explained as #prevent others ip from conecting to my eth0 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 7.3
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:22:05 -0400 James Lockie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How I pass -ingoreABI to KDE? You don't, you pass it to xinit. KDE has not anything to do with this. You can use startx --ignoreABI. If you use a login manager, like kdm, them you will need to configure it's config files to use that switch. Don't ask me how, I don't use login managers nor kdm for that matter. I want to use the nvidia binary driver with the new X but the ABI has changed. May I ask why are you so interested in xorg 7.3? You have lived with .2 til now, and you probably could live with it until nvidia releases an update. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Some ebuilds not picking up VIDEO_CARDS [Solved]
VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvdia Yeah, ok well. You can stare at something for hours and only see the spelling mistake 10 seconds after you send the help email to the list... Sorry for the noise, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:48:20 +0200 Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is on what computer? On the server (I guess it's the router) the last line would effectively prevent routing for the client (but I don't know why ICMP works...). I would suggest starting without it and then setting up proper rules -- and then setting the chain's policy to DROP (plus some REJECT rules for proper answers). I agree, I thought your firewall rules were a little wacky too. These rules only route to one host. generally you'd want to route to a whole network, not just one host. (but I don't know why ICMP works...). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:14:20 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you but doesn't it look like there must be a problem that is preventing my sshd from starting? Won't '/usr/bin/sshd -p 3' just fail, or is that more likely to work than '/etc/init.d/sshd start'? It seems to me that the problem is probably the initscript is confused, and not that the config files are bad and the daemon can't start. Also, is '/usr/bin/sshd' sufficient? Why not port 22? It is. No reason at all. But if you started it before the original ssh server had been stopped, you'd have to start it on a different port so that it didn't conflict with the original. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:48:12 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about just having them reboot and start my manual daemon? Would that accomplish the same thing? That would probably work too, but I don't think rebooting is likely to help. At the very best it's an additional waiting period before the box is back up. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:30:51 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, OK. This: snip Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 10.8.0.1 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere 10.8.0.1 DROP all -- !10.8.0.1 anywhere snip is on what computer? On the server (I guess it's the router) the last line would effectively prevent routing for the client (but I don't know why ICMP works...). I would suggest starting without it and then setting up proper rules -- and then setting the chain's policy to DROP (plus some REJECT rules for proper answers). I followed the howto's nomenclature of server and client. I'm a bit puzzled right now. Is there anything essentially wrong with the howto ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_quick_routing )? I followed it word by word. The drop rule is explained as #prevent others ip from conecting to my eth0 Hm, judging from that the article on Routing uses a Client and Server nomenclature, I consider the article being at least partly crap ;-) And yes, that guide really seems to be a bunch of BS (sorry, but that's the way it seems to be). It is outright horrible. Personally I hate discussing on Wikis' Discussion Pages, so, no, I won't correct it (but looking at its discussion page, others considered it bad, too, and are planning to correct/delete it). That iptables setup is absolutely stupid. It accepts packets from and to the machine itself (note that 10.8.0.1 is the router's IP), but will drop any packet not originating from 10.8.0.1. The latter should be true for all packets originating from the client (since it has the address 10.8.0.2). So all the client's communication is dropped, and that's it, end of story. Better have a look at netfilter's set of HOWTOs, especially the NAT howto. Better learn what you're doing... Otherwise, just take the hints from my previous posting. My suggestion for a proper setup would be $ iptables -F FORWARD $ iptables -P FORWARD DROP $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ...plus rules allowing for forwarding designated ports, if any You'll certainly want to keep this: $ iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE in place, too. Note that this trusts any box connecting via eth0, not just a single client. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Dan Farrell schrieb: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:48:20 +0200 Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is on what computer? On the server (I guess it's the router) the last line would effectively prevent routing for the client (but I don't know why ICMP works...). I would suggest starting without it and then setting up proper rules -- and then setting the chain's policy to DROP (plus some REJECT rules for proper answers). I agree, I thought your firewall rules were a little wacky too. These rules only route to one host. generally you'd want to route to a whole network, not just one host. (but I don't know why ICMP works...). Well, as I've written, they aren't my rules. I just copied and pasted them. I know just as much about iptables as I know about cars. I know the theory, I've seen the building process from like 10 meters distance and I use finished product. I'd really appreciate if you could post the correct settings or config file(s). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:30:51 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, OK. This: snip Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination ACCEPT all -- 10.8.0.1 anywhere ACCEPT all -- anywhere 10.8.0.1 DROP all -- !10.8.0.1 anywhere snip is on what computer? On the server (I guess it's the router) the last line would effectively prevent routing for the client (but I don't know why ICMP works...). I would suggest starting without it and then setting up proper rules -- and then setting the chain's policy to DROP (plus some REJECT rules for proper answers). I followed the howto's nomenclature of server and client. I'm a bit puzzled right now. Is there anything essentially wrong with the howto ( http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_quick_routing )? I followed it word by word. The drop rule is explained as #prevent others ip from conecting to my eth0 Hm, judging from that the article on Routing uses a Client and Server nomenclature, I consider the article being at least partly crap ;-) And yes, that guide really seems to be a bunch of BS (sorry, but that's the way it seems to be). It is outright horrible. Personally I hate discussing on Wikis' Discussion Pages, so, no, I won't correct it (but looking at its discussion page, others considered it bad, too, and are planning to correct/delete it). That iptables setup is absolutely stupid. It accepts packets from and to the machine itself (note that 10.8.0.1 is the router's IP), but will drop any packet not originating from 10.8.0.1. The latter should be true for all packets originating from the client (since it has the address 10.8.0.2). So all the client's communication is dropped, and that's it, end of story. Better have a look at netfilter's set of HOWTOs, especially the NAT howto. Better learn what you're doing... Otherwise, just take the hints from my previous posting. My suggestion for a proper setup would be $ iptables -F FORWARD $ iptables -P FORWARD DROP $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ...plus rules allowing for forwarding designated ports, if any You'll certainly want to keep this: $ iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE in place, too. Note that this trusts any box connecting via eth0, not just a single client. -hwh Thanks! In fact I'd really like to learn more about iptables but at the moment I hardly find the time to do it. When I try to apply the rules you've posted I get: $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state \ NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables: No chain/target/match by that name A syntax error, maybe? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
Hi folks! For years I've been using cdrecord as a non-root user and without suid bit set. Now it doesn't work any more. Here is the error message and some other info: $ cdrecord -eject -v -driveropts=burnproof -data dev=/dev/cdrw bigdisk/soft/operating_systems/ophcrack-livecd-1.2.2.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -sao mode. cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a34 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2007 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: '/dev/cdrw' devname: '/dev/cdrw' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. Driveropts: 'burnproof' SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'QSI ' Identifikation : 'CDRW/DVD SBW-242' Revision : 'UX08' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. Current: CD-RW Profile: DVD-ROM Profile: CD-ROM Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-RW (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1959936 = 1914 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 455 MB Total size: 522 MB (51:47.76) = 233082 sectors Lout start: 523 MB (51:49/57) = 233082 sectors cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. $ ll /dev/cdr* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/cdrw - hdc $ ll /dev/hdc brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/hdc $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev I can't find anything, neither in the ChangeLogs (ebuild or cdrtools) nor on the forums/bugzilla. Everybody seems to like the idea of burning CDs with root permissions. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
did you try adding yourself to the cdrom group? 2007/9/11, Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi folks! For years I've been using cdrecord as a non-root user and without suid bit set. Now it doesn't work any more. Here is the error message and some other info: $ cdrecord -eject -v -driveropts=burnproof -data dev=/dev/cdrw bigdisk/soft/operating_systems/ophcrack-livecd-1.2.2.iso cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Asuming -sao mode. cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 2.01.01a34 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2007 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.cdrecord: Cannot allocate memory. WARNING: Cannot do mlockall(2). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. WARNING: Cannot set RR-scheduler cdrecord: Permission denied. WARNING: Cannot set priority using setpriority(). cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. scsidev: '/dev/cdrw' devname: '/dev/cdrw' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. Driveropts: 'burnproof' SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'QSI ' Identifikation : 'CDRW/DVD SBW-242' Revision : 'UX08' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-ROM. Current: CD-RW Profile: DVD-ROM Profile: CD-ROM Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-RW (current) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1959936 = 1914 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 455 MB Total size: 522 MB (51:47.76) = 233082 sectors Lout start: 523 MB (51:49/57) = 233082 sectors cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl. cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'. $ ll /dev/cdr* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/cdrom - hdc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/cdrw - hdc $ ll /dev/hdc brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2007-09-11 16:21 /dev/hdc $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev I can't find anything, neither in the ChangeLogs (ebuild or cdrtools) nor on the forums/bugzilla. Everybody seems to like the idea of burning CDs with root permissions. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Thanks, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein)
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 7.3
On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, James Lockie wrote: How I pass -ingoreABI to KDE? I want to use the nvidia binary driver with the new X but the ABI has changed. open /usr/kde/3.5/share/config/kdm/kdmrc edit this line: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br to look like this: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br -ignoreABI -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:50:52 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My suggestion for a proper setup would be $ iptables -F FORWARD $ iptables -P FORWARD DROP $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ...plus rules allowing for forwarding designated ports, if any You'll certainly want to keep this: $ iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE in place, too. Note that this trusts any box connecting via eth0, not just a single client. [...] When I try to apply the rules you've posted I get: $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state \ NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Hm, you do not seem to have your kernel configured for connection state matching. Just start with basic rules: $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -o eth0 -i ppp0 -j ACCEPT (instead of the iptables -A settings mentioned before) But note that those would potentially allow inbound connections to get routed to any desired machine (desired by the party outside your network, that is). So make sure that either such requests aren't getting forwarded to your router (and this is most probably already the case for your setup -- DSL or cable, I guess?) or your LAN doesn't care (i.e. is secured). Most PPP endpoints, however, would drop such traffic anyway, so you should be secure if you trust your provider. Basically I think this is what the Gentoo wiki guide *intended* to do. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] multiple ethernets
Hello, I've set up multiple ethernet cards before, where I use the cards MAC address to ensure that the correct ethernet card is assigned which ip address in a mulit nic environment server. I symlinked net.lo as usual to all of the cards and the conf.d/net file looks like this: mac_eth0=00:4F:49:01:6F:7A mac_eth1=00:4F:49:01:8A:BF mac_eth2=00:40:05:63:3D:3E mac_eth3=52:54:00:DC:C8:E7 config_eth0=( 192.168.2.33/24 ) config_eth1=( 192.168.3.33/24 ) config_eth2=( 192.168.4.33/24 ) config_eth3=( 192.168.5.33/24 ) The problem is another card was removed and now eth1 is skipped over and get after reboot: heavily snipped eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:4F:49:01:6F:7A inet addr:192.168.2.33 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:40:05:63:3D:3E inet addr:192.168.4.33 Bcast:192.168.4.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth3 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:DC:C8:E7 inet addr:192.168.5.33 Bcast:192.168.5.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 eth4 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:DC:C8:E7 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 I assume that the eth1 problem is a vestige of removing an old card and replacing it with a newer one. I just cannot find what to remove or re-initiate to get the sequence of nic assignments to be eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3. I looked at net.examples but somehow I've missed something else. any ideas are most welcome. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade
Denis ha scritto: After you emerge --sync, run emerge -NDpvu world and post here the output - the list of software your system wants to install/upgrade - that should give us a better idea of what kind of an upgrade we're dealing with here. Here attached the outputs of both 'emerge -NDpvu world' and 'emaint --check world' to_upgrade.bz2 Description: application/bzip
Re: [gentoo-user] multiple ethernets
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 20:51:44 James wrote: I assume that the eth1 problem is a vestige of removing an old card and replacing it with a newer one. I just cannot find what to remove or re-initiate to get the sequence of nic assignments to be eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3. I looked at net.examples but somehow I've missed something else. Take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules Regards, Elias P. -- A really nice number: 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:04:04 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you try adding yourself to the cdrom group? I *am* in the cdrom group, as I have already wrote. $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: multiple ethernets
Elias Probst mail at eliasprobst.eu writes: I just cannot find what to remove or re-initiate to get the sequence of nic assignments to be eth0, eth1, eth2, eth3. I looked at net.examples but somehow I've missed something else. Take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules Yep, Never even thought about udev files.. I need a vacation. thx, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Thank you but doesn't it look like there must be a problem that is preventing my sshd from starting? Won't '/usr/bin/sshd -p 3' just fail, or is that more likely to work than '/etc/init.d/sshd start'? It seems to me that the problem is probably the initscript is confused, and not that the config files are bad and the daemon can't start. Also, is '/usr/bin/sshd' sufficient? Why not port 22? It is. No reason at all. But if you started it before the original ssh server had been stopped, you'd have to start it on a different port so that it didn't conflict with the original. Guys, I'm in! I had my host execute: sshd and now I'm logged in, the sshd initscript was already running, and it restarts perfectly. All is well! Thank you for your help! How does my host get root access like that? - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
sorry, missed it 2007/9/11, Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:04:04 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you try adding yourself to the cdrom group? I *am* in the cdrom group, as I have already wrote. $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein)
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hans-Werner Hilse schrieb: Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:50:52 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My suggestion for a proper setup would be $ iptables -F FORWARD $ iptables -P FORWARD DROP $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT ...plus rules allowing for forwarding designated ports, if any You'll certainly want to keep this: $ iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE in place, too. Note that this trusts any box connecting via eth0, not just a single client. [...] When I try to apply the rules you've posted I get: $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -m state --state \ NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables: No chain/target/match by that name Hm, you do not seem to have your kernel configured for connection state matching. Just start with basic rules: $ iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT $ iptables -A FORWARD -o eth0 -i ppp0 -j ACCEPT (instead of the iptables -A settings mentioned before) But note that those would potentially allow inbound connections to get routed to any desired machine (desired by the party outside your network, that is). So make sure that either such requests aren't getting forwarded to your router (and this is most probably already the case for your setup -- DSL or cable, I guess?) or your LAN doesn't care (i.e. is secured). Most PPP endpoints, however, would drop such traffic anyway, so you should be secure if you trust your provider. Basically I think this is what the Gentoo wiki guide *intended* to do. -hwh Now the kernel can handle connection state matching :) I can apply your rules with one exception: iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE The same error message as before. I've enabled basically everything in the kernel's netfilter submenu that can be compiled as a module and since these modules were automatically inserted when necessary I don't know what's the problem right now. I'll attach lsmod and the kernel config, just in case... Oh, and I've still got 100% packet loss when trying to ping Google's IP from anywhere but the router. config.bz2 Description: application/bzip Module Size Used by xt_state3136 0 ipt_MASQUERADE 4096 3 iptable_nat 8452 1 nf_nat 19884 2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 18640 2 iptable_nat nf_conntrack 61980 5 xt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_ipv4 iptable_filter 3712 1 ip_tables 19632 2 iptable_nat,iptable_filter x_tables 20296 4 xt_state,ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,ip_tables option 11648 1 usbserial 33968 3 option b4428236 0 sr_mod 18020 0 cdrom 35944 1 sr_mod sg 26016 0
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help with routing
Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:38:26 +0200 Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the kernel can handle connection state matching :) I can apply your rules with one exception: iptables -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE The same error message as before. But a different cause: My brain ;-) That should rather read $ iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE (I forgot the -t nat) There is, however, a kernel configuration needed for masquerading, too (CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MASQUERADE on newer kernels, you can search for it -- or just MASQUERADE on older kernels -- using the / key in the kernel's menuconfig). So if iptables keeps complaining, check that too. BTW: I'm starting to really hate the HOWTO that much that I might even consider editing it. The HOWTO got this command wrong as well: It MASQUERADEs the connections going out to the LAN interface... For a proper durable setup, after performing all steps manually until you have iptables in the way, you should issue $ /etc/init.d/iptables save and have iptables fire up using rc-update, if not yet done. Also put the sysctl setting in /etc/sysctl.conf. Then routing/masquerading will be set up right on each boot. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
Hi, On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:56 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How does my host get root access like that? Different possibilities, but hardware access in most cases means root access (although maybe only to encrypted partitions...). Easiest: Reboot (CTRL-ALT-DEL, no password needed), change kernel command line in boot loader to /boot/mykernel root=/dev/whatever init=/bin/bash And that's it, basically. The admin could have made a backup of /etc/shadow, resetted root password, rebooted into normal system, restored /etc/shadow. If it is a virtual server, this might be even easier. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart': How does my host get root access like that? Physical access to the box = root in many cases. Also, if it's some vserver type setup, root on the host can get root access on the guest machines. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
uname -r 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 I have acpi in my USE flags and compiled support in kernel: grep -i acpi .config |grep -v ^\# CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_PNPACPI=y CONFIG_ATA_ACPI=y *BUT* , isn't acpid needed by some apps like gnome battery charge monitor? Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? Is there something else we are supposed to use, instead of sys-power/acpid? Thanasis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Corruption in reiserfs partition
On Dienstag, 11. September 2007, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: I'm sorry about sending this huge email again, but the first one I sent from the wrong account and I'm almost sure that it didn't reach the list (but, how can I be sure?). Below is the email: Something else that I wanted to ask: this backup that I made after the screwup but before rebuild-tree, do you think it is reliable? not really, no. Damaged files are damaged files. Some stuff might be usable but that has to be checked on a case to case basis. But I have no prior backups... the *only* information I have came from the filesystem after the screw up... The backup I have was made *after* the screw up but before the rebuild-tree. I'm asking if this backup is reliable. no, it is not. Some files in the backup might be ok. But there is no guarantee for it. So you have to check the files in the backup, if they are correct. And you have to do that with every file that you want to restore. I have chosen one of the files that were zeroed in my filesystem and the corresponding file from the backup was OK. So at least in this case, *it was the rebuild-tree that corrupted the file*. This suggests that the *backup is reliable*. no, that only shows, that some files are ok. rebuilt-tree did not 'corrupt the file' it found severe damage in the fs-structure and there was no way to save the structure as a whole without discarding some information. Oh, and I found useful information in the output of rebuild-tree. Turns out that the output was huge because it prints status information in the screen and erases it with ^H. So the information that stays on the screen is far smaller than total information that is printed on the screen. I here show you the information that stays in the screen (I hope this 44KB text does not violate some limit of the gentoo-user mailing list). You can see that the corrupted files are mentioned here: ### Pass 0 ### block 9201872: The number of items (15) is incorrect, should be (1) - corrected block 9201872: The free space (0) is incorrect, should be (3792) - corrected pass0: vpf-10210: block 9201872, item 0: The item with wrong offset or length found [4608 16778752 0x50012006303 DRCT (2)], len 256 - deleted block 11173978: The number of items (8) is incorrect, should be (7) - corrected block 11173978: The free space (544) is incorrect, should be (612) - corrected 325827 directory entries were hashed with r5 hash. ### Pass 1 ### ### Pass 2 ### ### Pass 3 # /bin/duvpf-10680: The file [4 101209] has the wrong block count in the StatData (120) - corrected to (0) /rmvpf-10680: The file [4 100717] has the wrong block count in the StatData (72) - corrected to (0) /trvpf-10680: The file [4 101347] has the wrong block count in the StatData (56) - corrected to (0) /wcvpf-10680: The file [4 101431] has the wrong block count in the StatData (48) - corrected to (0) /dirvpf-10680: The file [4 101194] has the wrong block count in the StatData (160) - corrected to (0) /cutvpf-10680: The file [4 101180] has the wrong block count in the StatData (56) - corrected to (0) /envvpf-10680: The file [4 101223] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /pwdvpf-10680: The file [4 100696] has the wrong block count in the StatData (40) - corrected to (16) /seqvpf-10680: The file [4 101305] has the wrong block count in the StatData (40) - corrected to (0) /ttyvpf-10680: The file [4 101359] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /yesvpf-10680: The file [4 101443] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /exprvpf-10680: The file [4 101224] has the wrong block count in the StatData (48) - corrected to (0) /headvpf-10680: The file [4 101250] has the wrong block count in the StatData (48) - corrected to (0) /tailvpf-10680: The file [4 101310] has the wrong block count in the StatData (72) - corrected to (8) /sortvpf-10680: The file [4 103533] has the wrong block count in the StatData (128) - corrected to (0) /sttyvpf-10680: The file [4 100753] has the wrong block count in the StatData (80) - corrected to (0) /syncvpf-10680: The file [4 100762] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /truevpf-10680: The file [4 100774] has the wrong block count in the StatData (24) - corrected to (0) /vdirvpf-10680: The file [4 101391] has the wrong block count in the StatData (160) - corrected to (0) /dirnamevpf-10680: The file [4 101207] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /rmdirvpf-10680: The file [4 100721] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /sleepvpf-10680: The file [4 101306] has the wrong block count in the StatData (32) - corrected to (0) /touchvpf-10680: The file [4 101338] has the wrong block count in the StatData (72) - corrected to (0) /unamevpf-10680: The file
Re: [gentoo-user] SSH won't restart
How does my host get root access like that? Physical access to the box = root in many cases. Also, if it's some vserver type setup, root on the host can get root access on the guest machines. Ok, thanks again everyone. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
The only things that I can guess are that it is trying to update something in /proc or it needs to load a kernel module before writing. Just for fun - try burning a disk as root. Then try burning another dist as a non-root user. If the the second disk burns then one or the other of the above is the problem. -Good Luck, Stephen On 9/11/07, Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:04:04 -0300 Rafael Barrera Oro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did you try adding yourself to the cdrom group? I *am* in the cdrom group, as I have already wrote. $ groups adm wheel cron audio cdrom video cdrw usb users locate portage plugdev Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
Hello Thanasis, Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? emerge --update doesn't remove anything. Post your emerge command and the output of it with --pretend added so that we may understand what you mean. Adding --tree too is a good idea. -- Neil Bothwick Death is a nonmaskable interrupt. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
on 09/12/2007 12:32 AM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: Hello Thanasis, Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? emerge --update doesn't remove anything. Post your emerge command and the output of it with --pretend added so that we may understand what you mean. Adding --tree too is a good idea. You're right. I meant emerge -av --depclean (just after having run emerge --sync emerge -Du world) (sorry it's late here, and I'm tired :-[ ). I did let it unmerge acpid, just to see if revdep-rebuild would re-emerge it but it did *not*. So, what's going on? Thanasis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Boot situation
Colleen Beamer wrote: Benno Schulenberg wrote: Colleen Beamer wrote: zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-conf-2.6 This grabs the configuration from the running kernel (the one from the CD you booted from), not the configuration you may have had earlier on the system you chrooted into. I doubt that it grabs the kernel running from the CD, It does. You did 'mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc' before chrooting, which gives you the proc of the running kernel. But it matters not. The zcat command just saves a default config, in case no kernel was ever configured yet. Your previous runs of genkernel saved the config to /etc/kernels/, and that config gets automatically reused when it exists. So the config should be okay, _if it was always _that kernel that you booted, and not just the kernel that you _thought you booted. It might be worth trying to overwrite your custom config in /etc/kernels/ (after copying it to a safe place) with the contents of /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-conf-2.6, recompiling and reinstalling the kernel, and trying to boot with that. Anyway, googling around seems to say that the following error is definitely some kernel configuration problem: Block dev sda3 is not a valid root device The root block device is unspecified or not detected. Maybe use also --udev as an option to genkernel? Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:48:03 +0300 Thanasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 09/12/2007 12:32 AM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: Hello Thanasis, Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? emerge --update doesn't remove anything. Post your emerge command and the output of it with --pretend added so that we may understand what you mean. Adding --tree too is a good idea. You're right. I meant emerge -av --depclean That means that the package 1.- it is not in the world file (/var/lib/portage/world), _and_ 2.- it is not a dependency of any package that is on the world file That could happen for many reasons. For example, if acpid was installed as a dependency of a given package, and that package has been uninstalled. If can also happen if you emerged it with -1 or --oneshot. It can also be just a case of corruption in the world file. It can happen. The solution is as easy as to emerge that package again, without --oneshot, so it will be added to the world file. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] NIC problems after MS Windows update
HI all, I have the self-same problem with this card on a dual boot windows98 / gentoo system. In fact, I have TWO 8139 cards installed and the problem is present with both. Windows actually disactivates only the one it uses, and not the other. On another mailing list I found someone suggesting that activating the wake on lan option in the windows network card options solves the problem, and in fact it does. Anyway, seems it is not only an XP update problem, it seems to be a more general windows thing. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord says permission denied
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:27:15 -0500 Stephen Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only things that I can guess are that it is trying to update something in /proc or it needs to load a kernel module before writing. Why would cdrecord want to update anything in /proc? There is no informatiom that cdrecord uses. And by the way, strace didn't show anything helpful. Just for fun - try burning a disk as root. Then try burning another dist as a non-root user. I can not burn CDs as a non-root user (i.e. unprivileged; I can burn with sudo). That's why I wrote the email in the first place. ;-) Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:25:36 +0300
Thanasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# emerge -pve gnome gnome
# grep -i acpi gnome
[ebuild R ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1 USE=acpi crypt disk-partition
-debug -dell -doc -pcmcia (-selinux) 0 kB
[ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2 USE=acpi apm gnome
hal ipv6 -debug -doc -gstreamer 0 kB
#
See the acpi dependency? Is that supposed to work without acpid?
That is where your error is. The acpi flag doesn't automatically mean
that that package needs acpid to work, there are lots of packages that
have the acpi substring in their names.
If you look into gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2.ebuild for acpi you see
many things. But none of them is in the DEPEND or RDEPENDS declarations,
which in turn, means that the use of that flag should not add any
additional dependency.
Even more, at the final part of the ebuild you can see:
pkg_postinst() {
gnome2_pkg_postinst
if use acpi ! use hal ; then
elog It is highly recommended that you install acpid if you
use the
elog battstat applet to prevent any issues with other
applications
elog trying to read acpi information.
fi
}
That message appears when you emerge gnome-applets. And it is telling
you from first hand that you *need* to emerge acpid _by hand_ if you
want all the acpi based applications to behave correctly.
So that is what you should be doing.
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Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
on 09/12/2007 01:34 AM Jesús Guerrero wrote the following:
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:25:36 +0300
Thanasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
# emerge -pve gnome gnome
# grep -i acpi gnome
[ebuild R ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.9-r1 USE=acpi crypt disk-partition
-debug -dell -doc -pcmcia (-selinux) 0 kB
[ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2 USE=acpi apm gnome
hal ipv6 -debug -doc -gstreamer 0 kB
#
See the acpi dependency? Is that supposed to work without acpid?
That is where your error is. The acpi flag doesn't automatically mean
that that package needs acpid to work, there are lots of packages that
have the acpi substring in their names.
If you look into gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2.ebuild for acpi you see
many things. But none of them is in the DEPEND or RDEPENDS declarations,
which in turn, means that the use of that flag should not add any
additional dependency.
Even more, at the final part of the ebuild you can see:
pkg_postinst() {
gnome2_pkg_postinst
if use acpi ! use hal ; then
elog It is highly recommended that you install acpid if you
use the
elog battstat applet to prevent any issues with other
applications
elog trying to read acpi information.
fi
}
That message appears when you emerge gnome-applets. And it is telling
you from first hand that you *need* to emerge acpid _by hand_ if you
want all the acpi based applications to behave correctly.
So that is what you should be doing.
Thanks.
I had not seen those logs.
Just deleted them. :-[
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Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:08:15 +0200, Jesús Guerrero wrote: The solution is as easy as to emerge that package again, without --oneshot, so it will be added to the world file. You don't need to recompile a package just to add one line to a text file. See the --noreplace option for emerge. Although adding acpid is probably not the solution here. If nothing installs it as a dependency, there is no need to install it. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 019: User error - Not our fault. Is Not! Is Not! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On 9/11/07, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/11/07, Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:48:03 +0300 Thanasis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 09/12/2007 12:32 AM Neil Bothwick wrote the following: Hello Thanasis, Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? emerge --update doesn't remove anything. Post your emerge command and the output of it with --pretend added so that we may understand what you mean. Adding --tree too is a good idea. You're right. I meant emerge -av --depclean That means that the package 1.- it is not in the world file (/var/lib/portage/world), _and_ 2.- it is not a dependency of any package that is on the world file That could happen for many reasons. For example, if acpid was installed as a dependency of a given package, and that package has been uninstalled. If can also happen if you emerged it with -1 or --oneshot. It can also be just a case of corruption in the world file. It can happen. The solution is as easy as to emerge that package again, without --oneshot, so it will be added to the world file. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list --oneshot is unnecessary; if the package is already installed and you just want to add it to the world file, use the --noreplace option. -- - Mark Shields I'm not thinking straight. --oneshot doesn't change anything concerning the world file. --noreplace adds a package to the world file without actually emerging it. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] Some ebuilds not picking up VIDEO_CARDS [Solved]
On 9/11/07, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VIDEO_CARDS=nv nvdia Yeah, ok well. You can stare at something for hours and only see the spelling mistake 10 seconds after you send the help email to the list... Sorry for the noise, -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Don't sweat it. It happens. Sometimes it's best to retype small lines just in case; even better, copy and paste from a known working line. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ? RESOLVED
on 09/11/2007 11:36 PM Thanasis wrote the following: uname -r 2.6.22-gentoo-r5 I have acpi in my USE flags and compiled support in kernel: grep -i acpi .config |grep -v ^\# CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_PNPACPI=y CONFIG_ATA_ACPI=y *BUT* , isn't acpid needed by some apps like gnome battery charge monitor? Why does emerge --update suddenly want to remove sys-power/acpid? Is there something else we are supposed to use, instead of sys-power/acpid? Thanasis Portage was correct. I didn't need acpid as I had hald (hal) installed. I just needed to start hald. :-) Thank you all for your help :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On Wednesday 12 September 2007 00:34:51 Jesús Guerrero wrote: [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2 USE=acpi apm gnome hal ipv6 -debug -doc -gstreamer 0 kB [...] if use acpi ! use hal ; then [...] That message appears when you emerge gnome-applets. And it is telling you from first hand that you *need* to emerge acpid _by hand_ if you want all the acpi based applications to behave correctly. As you can see from the conditional it shows up if you have acpi enabled and hal disabled. Clearly this is not the case for the OP (he has hal enabled too). -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: keeping ati-drivers 8.34.8 in portage
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 14:53 +, James wrote: [snip] I've been using 8.39.4 for quite some time on 2 newer systems and it is stable(or at least with the 3D game bzflag) and normal workstation usage. My experience is trial and error, burning lots of time before you find an ati-driver that works good with your chipset. I'm not sure the criteria or who marks ati-drivers as stable, but, ati-drivers-8.39.4 would get an affirmative from me. thanks. I did try them, in fact I tried each of these versions multiple times one day when trying to find the problem: 8.36.5 8.37.6 8.39.4 8.40.4 and each of them had the fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!! error that I talked about before :( I even posted on the ati forums and no one could help... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Baseball is a skilled game. It's America's game - it, and high taxes. -- The Best of Will Rogers -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Automated emerge -e world
Hi, list
I'd like to automate a full re-emerging and to get a record of all
packages that failed. Something like:
##
emerge -e world || {
echo $CATEGORY/$PN failed.txt
while ! emerge --resume --skipfirst
do
echo $CATEGORY/$PN failed.txt
done
}
##
Any ideas how to achieve this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Automated emerge -e world
On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 03:04 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:
Hi, list
I'd like to automate a full re-emerging and to get a record of all
packages that failed. Something like:
##
emerge -e world || {
echo $CATEGORY/$PN failed.txt
while ! emerge --resume --skipfirst
do
echo $CATEGORY/$PN failed.txt
done
}
##
Any ideas how to achieve this?
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Best regards,
Daniel
Here's a script that I use. I use it to build all my packages at the
end of the month. Works ok for me. YMMV:
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#!/usr/bin/python
Like my emptytree bash script, but more reliable and written in Python.
import datetime
import os
import sys
import time
import portage
LOGDIR = '/var/log/emptytree'
PKGLIST = LOGDIR + '/packages'
FAILED = LOGDIR + '/failed'
EMERGE_FLAGS = '--oneshot --nodeps'
TCOLS = 80
def get_list_of_packages(args=None):
Get list of packages to emerge, in order
packages = []
if args is None:
command = emerge --nospinner --pretend --emptytree world
else:
command = emerge --nospinner --pretend + args
pipe = os.popen(command, 'r')
for line in pipe:
if line.startswith('[ebuild'):
try:
right_bracket = line.index(']')
ebuild_start = right_bracket + 2
space = line.index(' ', ebuild_start)
except ValueError:
continue
ebuild = line[ebuild_start:space]
packages.append(ebuild)
return packages
class PackageList(list):
List of packages read/written to a flat file
def __init__(self, filename):
list.__init__(self)
self.filename = filename
def write_to_file(self):
Write package list file
package_file = open(self.filename, 'w')
for package in self:
package_file.write(package + '\n')
package_file.close()
def read_from_file(self):
Load packages from file
del self[0:-1] # clear
try:
package_file = open(self.filename, 'r')
except OSError:
return
for line in package_file:
package = line.strip()
if package:
self.append(package)
def set_links(current):
Create current.out current.err symlinks
current_out = LOGDIR + '/current.stdout'
current_err = LOGDIR + '/current.stderr'
if os.path.exists(current_out):
os.remove(current_out)
if os.path.exists(current_err):
os.remove(current_err)
os.symlink('%s.stdout' % current, current_out)
os.symlink('%s.stderr' % current, current_err)
def main(argv):
Main program entry point
if len(argv) 1:
args = ' '.join(argv[1:])
else:
args = None
packages = PackageList(PKGLIST)
packages.extend(get_list_of_packages(args))
failed = PackageList(FAILED)
total = len(packages)
packages.write_to_file()
failed.write_to_file()
start_time = time.gmtime()
pkg_num = 0
while len(packages) 0:
package = packages.pop(0)
pkg_num = pkg_num + 1
print '[%03d/%03d] %s' % (pkg_num, total, package),
sys.stdout.flush()
split = portage.pkgsplit(package)
pname = split[0].split('/')[1] + '-' + split[1] + '-' + split[1]
command = ('emerge %s =%s '
' %s/%s.stdout 2 %s/%s.stderr'
% (EMERGE_FLAGS, package, LOGDIR, pname, LOGDIR, pname))
#command = 'echo %s' % package
set_links(pname)
status = os.system(command)
plen = len(package)
if status == 0:
print '[SUCCESS]'.rjust(TCOLS - 11 - plen)
else:
# emerge failed
print '[FAILURE]'.rjust(TCOLS - 11 - plen)
failed.append(package)
failed.write_to_file()
packages.write_to_file()
end_time = time.gmtime()
time_diff = datetime.datetime(*end_time[:6]) - \
datetime.datetime(*start_time[:6])
print 'Finished!'
print 'Total: %d packages. %d failed' % (total, len(failed))
print 'Completed in %s' % time_diff
if __name__ == '__main__':
sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
# 2007-07-10 marduk Took out resume and failed command-line
# arguments, since resume can be accomplished by
# emptytree `cat /var/log/emptytree/packages` and failed by
# emptytree `cat /var/log/emptytree/failed`.
# Removed empty contructor parameter from PackageList since it
# was only used by resume and failed
--
--
raise SystemExit
--
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[gentoo-user] metacity Woes
Every time I boot into Linux and log into GNOME I have to start metacity manually by su'ing in a terminal and issuing a # metacity /dev/null before I can get title bars and such that goes with it. My wife's computer does the same thing. Here's the info on my PC: camille ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/no-nptl, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686) = System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 Timestamp of tree: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:01 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.9-r2 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.17 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.16 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.24 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r1 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/bind CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.datapipe.net/gentoo; LINGUAS=en fr es MAKEOPTS=-j2 PKGDIR=/usr/portage-packages/camille PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS=--human-readable PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-* PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X alsa apache2 apm arts asterisk audiofile avi bash-completion berkdb bind-mysql bitmap-fonts browserplugin bzip2 candy cdr cgi cli cracklib crypt ctype cups dba dbus divx4linux doc dri dvb dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode examples expat f77 ffmpeg flash foomaticdb fortran ftp gdbm gif glut gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 guile hal iconv imap imlib ipv6 isdnlog ithreads ivtv jack jack-tempfs java jikes joystick jpeg kde kerberos lib libclamav libg++ libwww lirc mad midi mikmod mmx mmx2 mmxext mode-owner motif mp3 mpeg mpm-leader mudflap mysql mythtv nas nautilus ncurses new-login nls nntp nsplugin offensive ogg oggvorbis opengl openmp oss pam pcre pdf perl php png portaudio ppds pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline real reflection ruby samba sasl sdl seamonkey session slp snmp spell spl sql ssl svga syslog tcl tcltk tcpd threads tidy truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb userlocales v4l v4l2 vorbis win32codecs x86 xml xml2 xorg xv zaptel zlib ALSA_CARDS=hda-intel ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=en fr es USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=apm ark chips cirrus cyrix dummy fbdev glint i128 i740 i810 imstt mach64 mga neomagic nsc nv r128 radeon rendition s3 s3virge savage siliconmotion sis sisusb tdfx tga trident tseng v4l vesa vga via vmware voodoo Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS camille ~ # emerge -pv metacity gnome These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5 USE=-debug -xinerama 0 kB [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-2.18.2-r1 USE=cdr cups dvdr -accessibility -ldap -mono 0 kB Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB The same thing happens on my wife's PC. Here's the info for her computer: catherine ~ # emerge --info Portage 2.1.2.12 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686) = System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4 i686 AMD Sempron(tm) 2400+ Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 Timestamp of tree: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:30:01 + distcc 2.18.3 i686-pc-linux-gnu (protocols 1 and 2) (default port 3632) [disabled] app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.33-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 sys-apps/baselayout:
Re: [gentoo-user] why unmerge acpid ?
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:56:33 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 12 September 2007 00:34:51 Jesús Guerrero wrote: [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.18.0-r2 USE=acpi apm gnome hal ipv6 -debug -doc -gstreamer 0 kB [...] if use acpi ! use hal ; then [...] That message appears when you emerge gnome-applets. And it is telling you from first hand that you *need* to emerge acpid _by hand_ if you want all the acpi based applications to behave correctly. As you can see from the conditional it shows up if you have acpi enabled and hal disabled. Clearly this is not the case for the OP (he has hal enabled too). My bad, then he doesn't need acpid at all. You are completely right, thanks for the correction. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] suggestion for recombining audio with video
On 9/10/07, Iain Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, recently I've been doing some better recordings (proper mic into sound system) along with my video camera. This means that I have two sources - one attached to the video, and one separate audio stream. It's not practical for me to plug the sound system into the video camera (although that would be ideal) because I move around too much, and a cable would be ... not practical :) And there are some room noises that the video camera picks up that a directional mic doesn't. anyway... I've just started using audacity to edit the nice audio, and add some simple effects, and I want to recombine that with the video, so that I have the nice audio + video. So I would require a program to do the following 1. line up video and audio from separate files 2. adjust the position of the audio frame by frame, so that I can get as-perfect-as-possible lip sync! 3. video and audio not necessarily the same length 4. mpeg or dvd compatible output 5. mix two (or more?) audio sources into one audio+video file, with some simple crossfade 6. Open software would be ideal (linux of course!), followed by closed-but-minimal-cost, followed by closed-costly-but-so-excellent-I-have-to-have-it! If there is a choice, I would prefer that the video is left as unaltered as possible by this program, to avoid going through too many conversions. I don't need any fancy editing or effects, I have other programs to do that! Any suggestions? I have been looking on google, but there are so many bad shareware programs that my results get flooded with rubbish! TIA, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Can you program? Well, I'm literate, if that's what you mean! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I've never used it, but Cinelerra [1] looks like what you might want. Btw, a quick, cursory google search returned that. Oh, and point #5 you can do with Audacity. [1] http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3 -- - Mark Shields
[gentoo-user] How to know current state of LCD
I can turn on/off LCD by using vbetool vbetool dpms on/off But I can not find a way to know the current state of LCD. on? or off? Is there any method, command or something else to indicate the state of LCD? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
