Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2008 schrieb maxim wexler:

 At the end of an emerge process I saw two
 recommendations: etc-update and ?-update. The exact
 name escapes me and I can't find it in the logs. It
 seems pretty significant with 100+ updates pending. Do
 you recall the full name?

cfg-update, maybe? So far the best Gentoo config file updater I've used.

HTH...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Rumen Yotov pisze:

On (01/02/08 23:44) Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
  
Total: 246 packages (201 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 38 new, 6 in new slots), 
Size of downloads: 1,047,420 kB

Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)

Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]


PS: Gentoo is only known by me distro that survives this operation ;) 
(emerge -uvaD World) without issues. Congratulation great job! Keep it up! 
Keep Your fingers for me ;)


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Hi,
Good luck, try to get the fetch-restricted package first.
Put it in /usr/portage/distfiles and run for 'world'.
Don't forget: etc-update, revdep-rebuild tools.
HTH. Rumen
  
Nothing like Gentoo ;). Good update, god! ;). Everything is OK ;) as 
usual ;). Great work 4 all'ya! THX for best distro ;). PS: portage wrote 
message to fetch java from SUN page - only java SDK (because of NetBeans 
installed). If anyone can read then anyone can do update ;). Three 
nights and system up and running ;).

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[gentoo-user] Can I get help here for portage on Sabayon?

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
Sabayon uses gentoo's portage with overlays and I am having difficulty with
portage conflicts. I will include details if this is the right list. If not
would someone direct me to the right list? Thank you.
Bob


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 3 February 2008, Grant wrote:

 OK, port knocking is going back on the todo list.

Note that I'm not claiming that portknocking is the solution to every 
security problem. Only that it has its uses in certain scenarios. 
A drawback of portknocking is that it requires modified clients 
(==knock-aware) for the services, so I think it's not suitable for your 
remote printing case.
It can, however, be useful in other situations.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can I get help here for portage on Sabayon?

2008-02-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
 Sabayon uses gentoo's portage with overlays and I am having
 difficulty with portage conflicts. I will include details if this is
 the right list. If not would someone direct me to the right list?
 Thank you.
 Bob

Lots of people here know portage, so I see no harm in posting your 
question, especially if what you really want to know is how do I make 
portage do what I want it to do?

If you are running into a Sabayon weirdness with a buggy overlay, there 
might be a better list, but no harm in asking general stuff here.

Post the full output of the emerge -pv command you are using

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work

2008-02-03 Thread Dave Jones
Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 02/02/08 22:26:

  I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo
  printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
  hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in
  /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I
  usually run as a Postscrpt printer.
 
  What have I missed?
 
  Run hp-setup
 
  You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've
  retained them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable
  local printing OK.
 
  And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then reemerge
  cups.  I had to do that last part too.
 
  The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and
  hp-setup does not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT
  printers, but it is greyed out.
 
  The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme /dev/lp0
  with a suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends with
  ^L^D).
 
  Hmmm.  Digging slightly deeper, I found the /usr/bin/hp-probe
  program. It lets me specifically request a probe of LPT, but finds
  nothing there.  The printer remains attached.  I'm even more deeply
  stumped than before.
 
 Try: hp-setup -i /dev/parport0
 
 See if that helps.
 
 Try hp-setup -hfor other options.
 
 I take it that your kernel has parallel port support generated, and that
 you have file permission to access /dev/lp0 ?

 It runs, but only gives me options for usb and net.  This makes some
 sense since there are no /dev/parport* entries in my system.

 Nevertheless, I have parallel port support as I understand it.  From my
 kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r6) .config file:

 #
 # Generic Driver Options
 #
 CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
 CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
 CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
 # CONFIG_SYS_HYPERVISOR is not set
 # CONFIG_CONNECTOR is not set
 # CONFIG_MTD is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT=yparallel port
 CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y  PC style
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
 CONFIG_PNP=y
 # CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG is not set

Your kernel set-up looks reasonable to me.

I don't have parallel port support generated into my system, as I don't
have a parallel printer.

On a Centos host with parallel port support, 2.6.18 kernel:

CONFIG_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=m
# CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_PCMCIA=m
CONFIG_PARPORT_NOT_PC=y
# CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT=m
CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT=m

ls /dev/par* shows:

/dev/par0  /dev/parport0  /dev/parport1  /dev/parport2  /dev/parport3

Do you have a standard parallel port, or a special IO card?

Have you modified /etc/udev.d rules? I have these (unmodified) entries:

rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==lp*,NAME=%k, GROUP=lp
rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==parport*,   NAME=%k, GROUP=lp

I'm puzzled by this, as your /dev/lp0 print test worked.

The only other suggestion I have would be to try:

hp-setup -i /dev/lp0

Don't know if hp-setup will accept this, might be worth having a go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Dynamic HTML to PDF

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
  I'm currently printing a dynamic HTML web page via firefox, but I'm
  trying to switch to a method that will allow me to print across the
  internet in an automated fashion with lpr.  I've tried printing a
  static HTML file with lpr, but it comes out in raw code.  I think I
  need a way to convert a dynamic web page to a static HTML file and
  then convert that HTML file to PDF for printing.  I'm having trouble
  getting my mind around how to convert the dynamic HTML web page to a
  static HTML file, but I think going from HTML to PDF is best
  accomplished with htmldoc.
 
  How would you guys do this?
 
  - Grant

 Does the dynamic content not show on your printouts?

It does when I print through firefox.

I think I have 2 options here.  I can convert these dynamic HTML pages
to static as needed, and then convert those static pages to PDF for
printing.  Alternatively, Is there any way to print parsed HTML with
something like lpr?

The other option would be to build the PDFs directly from my data with
something like PDF::Create or PDF::API2.  Has anyone used a perl
module like that?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) Reboot to Windows (using grub)

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 23:44:59 +0100
Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks all for their respective input. From the information provided,
 I've assembled a short Gentoo Wiki Tip [1].
 
 Regards,
 Liviu
 
 [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Reboot_to_Windows_(using_grub)

Thanks; I've been wanting to do this for months now, but failed to
write up a coherent message to the list.  Now I can finally reboot with
ease and walk away, without having to mess with quickly switching grub
(being impatient and having a short attention span, similar as they may
be, are, in conjunction, quite an obstacle for multi-booters ;) )

I was thinking, though; wouldn't it be possible to just switch back and
forth each boot?  Have grub set windows as the default when it boots
linux and linux as the default after booting windows, and you can just
switch back and forth by rebooting - no grub-set-default required.
However, this would be appropriate only for people who want to reboot
into the other OS every time they reboot.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
  Well thank you for that.  I had planned on setting up port knocking
  for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them
  listening on 22 and 631?

 Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for
 avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting trusted traffic.  I have
 seen one deployment where it seems passably inconspicuous, at least.

 Alternately, if you run SSH on an unusual port, you're unlikely to see
 much Bot traffic.  I would recommend this, if you're concerned, above
 port knocking myself -- relying on a complicated pre-authentication
 method rather than / in addition to a remote admin tool like SSH seems
 to be asking for problems.

Do you mean problems in the form of hassles?  So you're saying ssh
running on an unusual port is good enough?

  As for printing from lpr to cups across the internet, I should be
  encrypting that data shouldn't I?  Nothing too sensitive but it sounds
  like a good thing to do.  It looks like cups can use ssl but I don't
  see any mention of it in man lpr.

 SSH Tunneling and VPN come to mind too, but I must ask - what good is
 printing a physical document across the net, unless the printer is
 still only a little way away, and if so, what is it doing behind a
 public network? I am curious about this deployment.

I'd be happy to tell you more but I'm not sure what you mean.  Still
only a little way away?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:27:24 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well thank you for that.  I had planned on setting up port knocking
 for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off leaving them
 listening on 22 and 631?

Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for
avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting trusted traffic.  I have
seen one deployment where it seems passably inconspicuous, at least. 

Alternately, if you run SSH on an unusual port, you're unlikely to see
much Bot traffic.  I would recommend this, if you're concerned, above
port knocking myself -- relying on a complicated pre-authentication
method rather than / in addition to a remote admin tool like SSH seems
to be asking for problems.  

 As for printing from lpr to cups across the internet, I should be
 encrypting that data shouldn't I?  Nothing too sensitive but it sounds
 like a good thing to do.  It looks like cups can use ssl but I don't
 see any mention of it in man lpr.

SSH Tunneling and VPN come to mind too, but I must ask - what good is
printing a physical document across the net, unless the printer is
still only a little way away, and if so, what is it doing behind a
public network? I am curious about this deployment.  

 - Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Dynamic HTML to PDF

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:42:05 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently printing a dynamic HTML web page via firefox, but I'm
 trying to switch to a method that will allow me to print across the
 internet in an automated fashion with lpr.  I've tried printing a
 static HTML file with lpr, but it comes out in raw code.  I think I
 need a way to convert a dynamic web page to a static HTML file and
 then convert that HTML file to PDF for printing.  I'm having trouble
 getting my mind around how to convert the dynamic HTML web page to a
 static HTML file, but I think going from HTML to PDF is best
 accomplished with htmldoc.
 
 How would you guys do this?
 
 - Grant

Does the dynamic content not show on your printouts?  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 07:27:12 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Well thank you for that.  I had planned on setting up port
   knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off
   leaving them listening on 22 and 631?
 
  Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for
  avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting trusted traffic.  I
  have seen one deployment where it seems passably inconspicuous, at
  least.
 
  Alternately, if you run SSH on an unusual port, you're unlikely to
  see much Bot traffic.  I would recommend this, if you're concerned,
  above port knocking myself -- relying on a complicated
  pre-authentication method rather than / in addition to a remote
  admin tool like SSH seems to be asking for problems.
 
 Do you mean problems in the form of hassles? 

Yeah, hassles and potential misconfiguration, because if anything goes
wrong (rookie admin messes up knocking, for instance, on the
server/firewall) you can't log in from home and fix it, you have to
drive all the way out there to get in from the other side.  

Port knocking seems like a decent security method to me, especially if
it was running on the firewall and opened ports only to the knocking IP
-- in that case, it certainly wouldn't be obvious to any other computer
that the port had been opened.  

However, I tend to think it is more trouble than it's worth, and has a
tendency to make people think that they can be lazy about security
because 'intruders would have to port knock anyway'.  I tend to prefer
strong firewalls, strong passwords, and, potentially, RSA certs or
something to _really_ make sure.  

 So you're saying ssh
 running on an unusual port is good enough?

I'm no expert, but from my logs: SSH attempts (from bots in Shanghai
and the like) on port 22 number in the thousands, unexpected SSH
attempts on the nonstandard ports I run SSH on (actually it's
firewall-level port forwarding) have not yet been logged.  

It's kind of an obscuring for security argument, but I think it's a
good balance between goofy port knocking setups and just running plain
old SSH on 22.  

Of course, Nothing is a replacement for strong password enforcement,
and if the systems are important, I would probably require certificates
as well.  

And again, I stress that I'm no expert.  I have been using nonstandard
ports and the Bots seem none the wiser, but I can still log in on those
ports from any computer without having to aquire and configure port
knocking clients.  

   As for printing from lpr to cups across the internet, I should be
   encrypting that data shouldn't I?  Nothing too sensitive but it
   sounds like a good thing to do.  It looks like cups can use ssl
   but I don't see any mention of it in man lpr.
 
  SSH Tunneling and VPN come to mind too, but I must ask - what good
  is printing a physical document across the net, unless the printer
  is still only a little way away, and if so, what is it doing behind
  a public network? I am curious about this deployment.
 
 I'd be happy to tell you more but I'm not sure what you mean.  Still
 only a little way away?
 

Thinking of all the times I printed something, I cant think of many
situations when I didn't have to walk over to the printer after
printing, grab the printout, and carry it to the intended destination.  

I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices and the
like at front offices or even remote storefronts and locations, but
wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote offices anyway?  



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread kashani

Grant wrote:

I don't know about large setups, where it might be very possible that
port knocking becomes a major PITA as you say. But I have setup and used
port knocking for remote ssh access lots of time in the past, and never
had a problem. This is just my little experience, of course.


OK, port knocking is going back on the todo list.


	I don't free as strongly as Alan, but I've never been overly impressed 
with the idea of port knocking. Mostly because any monitoring of 
services would be a total nightmare. And troubleshooting it would suck. 
Is the service down? Is it the knock? and so on.


	What I do like is openvpn. Script kiddies don't look for it and I 
prefer to have full access to my home boxes rather than having to mess 
with port forwarding. As far as complexity goes its easy to setup in an 
afternoon and there are clients for Windows, OSX, Linux, BSD, etc.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
Well thank you for that.  I had planned on setting up port
knocking for ssh and cups but I guess I'm just as well off
leaving them listening on 22 and 631?
  
   Fail2Ban, though a little intensive, seems to be a decent method for
   avoiding unwanted SSH traffic while accepting trusted traffic.  I
   have seen one deployment where it seems passably inconspicuous, at
   least.
  
   Alternately, if you run SSH on an unusual port, you're unlikely to
   see much Bot traffic.  I would recommend this, if you're concerned,
   above port knocking myself -- relying on a complicated
   pre-authentication method rather than / in addition to a remote
   admin tool like SSH seems to be asking for problems.
 
  Do you mean problems in the form of hassles?

 Yeah, hassles and potential misconfiguration, because if anything goes
 wrong (rookie admin messes up knocking, for instance, on the
 server/firewall) you can't log in from home and fix it, you have to
 drive all the way out there to get in from the other side.

 Port knocking seems like a decent security method to me, especially if
 it was running on the firewall and opened ports only to the knocking IP
 -- in that case, it certainly wouldn't be obvious to any other computer
 that the port had been opened.

 However, I tend to think it is more trouble than it's worth, and has a
 tendency to make people think that they can be lazy about security
 because 'intruders would have to port knock anyway'.  I tend to prefer
 strong firewalls, strong passwords, and, potentially, RSA certs or
 something to _really_ make sure.

  So you're saying ssh
  running on an unusual port is good enough?

 I'm no expert, but from my logs: SSH attempts (from bots in Shanghai
 and the like) on port 22 number in the thousands, unexpected SSH
 attempts on the nonstandard ports I run SSH on (actually it's
 firewall-level port forwarding) have not yet been logged.

 It's kind of an obscuring for security argument, but I think it's a
 good balance between goofy port knocking setups and just running plain
 old SSH on 22.

 Of course, Nothing is a replacement for strong password enforcement,
 and if the systems are important, I would probably require certificates
 as well.

 And again, I stress that I'm no expert.  I have been using nonstandard
 ports and the Bots seem none the wiser, but I can still log in on those
 ports from any computer without having to aquire and configure port
 knocking clients.

Sounds like I should forget port knocking and set up RSA certificates.

As for printing from lpr to cups across the internet, I should be
encrypting that data shouldn't I?  Nothing too sensitive but it
sounds like a good thing to do.  It looks like cups can use ssl
but I don't see any mention of it in man lpr.
  
   SSH Tunneling and VPN come to mind too, but I must ask - what good
   is printing a physical document across the net, unless the printer
   is still only a little way away, and if so, what is it doing behind
   a public network? I am curious about this deployment.
 
  I'd be happy to tell you more but I'm not sure what you mean.  Still
  only a little way away?
 

 Thinking of all the times I printed something, I cant think of many
 situations when I didn't have to walk over to the printer after
 printing, grab the printout, and carry it to the intended destination.

 I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices and the
 like at front offices or even remote storefronts and locations, but
 wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote offices anyway?

That's more or less what I'm trying to do.  Is setting up a VPN
between my remote server and local network overkill?  I think the only
thing I'd use it for is to hide the sending of these printouts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell

 That's more or less what I'm trying to do.  Is setting up a VPN
 between my remote server and local network overkill?  I think the only
 thing I'd use it for is to hide the sending of these printouts.

I would speculate that a VPN for one service might be overkill, if that
service is easy to secure.  It is also a transparent mechanism for
encryption over the net that would work with other services too (email,
http, and the like).  

If you are likely to set up these services, you might consider a VPN to
make your life easier in the long run.  But if printing is the only
thing you need to do, you might want to avoid the configuration of a
VPN and just set up SSL.  

Encrypting your print data, in my opinion, is a very good idea.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 08:06:47 -0800
kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Grant wrote:
  I don't know about large setups, where it might be very possible
  that port knocking becomes a major PITA as you say. But I have
  setup and used port knocking for remote ssh access lots of time in
  the past, and never had a problem. This is just my little
  experience, of course.
  
  OK, port knocking is going back on the todo list.
 
   I don't free as strongly as Alan, but I've never been overly
 impressed with the idea of port knocking. Mostly because any
 monitoring of services would be a total nightmare. And
 troubleshooting it would suck. Is the service down? Is it the knock?
 and so on.
 
   What I do like is openvpn. Script kiddies don't look for it
 and I prefer to have full access to my home boxes rather than having
 to mess with port forwarding. As far as complexity goes its easy to
 setup in an afternoon and there are clients for Windows, OSX, Linux,
 BSD, etc. 
 kashani

Another openVPN vote from me.  Makes deployment across geographically
distinct network much easier, and good security too.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] upgraded video card from geforce 6600 to geforce 8600...

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:03:16 -0500
Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

People will appreciate it if you don't respond to unrelated posts.
Many mail browsers (my own included) organize by the in-reply-to header
(at least I think that's the one):
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and have probably organized your post in the middle of a VMWare
discussion, just as mine has.  Thanks in advance! 


 I recompiled nvidia-drivers,

for one thing, I don't think you should have had to recompile the
nvidia-drivers for the update, you're moving from two nvidia cards
that are both supported by the same (most recent) version of the driver
from what I can tell on nvidia's site.  The same driver can drive both
cards.  You would want to recompile if you changed 

Secondly, you might want to try upgrading the drivers, as the 8600 is a
more recent card than the 6600 and you might need new drivers.  Just
make sure you did an emerge --sync some time recently and that
shouldn't be a problem.  

And finally, it's not really a 'recompile' (even though we _both_
called it one) because the nvidia drivers are binaries - nvidia hasn't
released open sources for them.  


 but when I tried running X, I got a blank screen.

You might need to reconfigure the Devices section of X.  In my mind,
the best way to do this is to run X -configure from ~/ and then
copy-paste the relevant section of the new file (configured for your
new 8600) to the old file (replace the 6600 device lines with those for
8600).  

 Couldn't get back to the console.

I assume Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] didn't help you.  If not, it almost sounds
like X is locking up.  reminds me of this[1] release highlight (this
driver came out 1/21/08):

Fixed a bug that caused the X driver to crash if the X.Org GLX
extension module was loaded intead of NVIDIA’s.
Fixed a bug in the Linux/i2c algorithm driver implementation that
prevented core transfer types from succeeding.

Best of luck to you!  

[1] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.09.html
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Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] VM Ware or not?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:56:22 -0600
Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and
 Civilization III fails because some security module can't be found...

You might try a no-cd crack, if this is indeed caused by 
copyprotection as I suspect.  I think they're legal to use (if
you have a license for the game, of course) and to write/download,
although there's no guarantee that you'll download the right thing and
not a virus, or that it will actually help.  

I run all the games I can with nocd cracks anyway, so that I don't have
to put in the CD.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix problem

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:58:32 +0100
Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have problem with postfix. I just want to send email to other mail 
 server from my new postfix/courier server. 

Could you elaborate on your configuration?  Are you...
 - relaying mail to a specific domain (or group of domains)?
 - forwarding all mail the box receives to another computer 
(a bad idea) ? 
 - sending local mail as an MX Host / Mail Hub for a local network?
 - something else?

 Every time I write address 
 different then local server (postfix) returns info 5.7.1 (some 
 address): Relay access denied. What should I do? I don't know is it 
 forwarding or relaying. What is wrong?

It sounds like a fixable problem, but I'm not sure what you're trying
to achieve.  Want to post your main.cf?  

 Greet's,
 Mateusz Mierzwinski

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Re: [gentoo-user] network setup

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:50:51 +
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Monday 28 January 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:10:18 +0100, Stefán István wrote:
   can I set up the network startup so that eth0 first tries to get
   address from a dhcp server, and if it doesn't get any, it sets up
   with a fixed address? How can I set up this in the /etc/con.d/net?
 
  config_eth0=( dhcp )
  fallback_eth0=( aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd )
  fallback_route_eth0=( blah )
 
  See /etc/conf.d/net.example
 
 As I understand it this only allows for one fallback type of address
 (e.g. 192.168.0.0).  If you connect to different routers which have
 different LAN address (192.168.0.0, 192.168.2.0, 10.10.10.0, etc.)
 then I guess you'll need some sort of additional script?

That appears to be correct, according to net.example only one fallback
route can be accepted.  

You might try a postup function that checks to see whether dhcp is
successful and, if not, sets your additional routes manually.  
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[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So you're saying ssh running on an unusual port is good
 enough?

For some value of good enough, yes.

 I'm no expert, but from my logs: SSH attempts (from bots in
 Shanghai and the like) on port 22 number in the thousands,
 unexpected SSH attempts on the nonstandard ports I run SSH on
 (actually it's firewall-level port forwarding) have not yet
 been logged.  

I usually run ssh on non-standard ports.  It does cut down a
lot on breaking attempts.  It's still an open port, and you
still need to make sure ssh/openssl is kept updated.
Blacklisting a source IP after multiple failed attempts within
a time period is probably a good idea regardless.

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[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2008-02-03, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices
 and the like at front offices or even remote storefronts and
 locations, but wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote
 offices anyway?

 That's more or less what I'm trying to do.  Is setting up a
 VPN between my remote server and local network overkill?

It sounds like the right thing to do to me.  Once you've got a
VPN set up, then everything else just works.  You'll probably
end up spending less time seting up one well-secured
general-purpose connection (VPN) than you would futzing around
with various security wrappers and kludges for various
clients/servers.

 I think the only thing I'd use it for is to hide the sending
 of these printouts.

Once it's up, they're be other things you'll use it for. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
I here use dispatch-conf instead of etc-update. I just change /etc/dispatch-
conf.conf to the following:

use-rcs=yes

and

 diff=colordiff -Nu %s %s | less --no-init --QUIT-AT-EOF


which requires rcs and colordiff to be merged. It's fantastic for updating
the conf files.

Regards,

Saffi

On 2/2/08, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 did you grep all the files in /var/log/portage/elog/ as well? That's
 where such notifications are normally stored.


 Some more likely candidates are gcc-config, java-config, perhaps
 python-updater or maybe one of these:

 nazgul ~ # ls -al /sbin/*update /usr/sbin/*update
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root14 Nov  2 09:55 /sbin/modules-update -
 update-modules
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5546 Jan 17 22:33 /sbin/rc-update
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 30356 Nov  2 10:00 /usr/sbin/conf-update
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root29 Feb  1
 20:14 /usr/sbin/env-update - ../lib/portage/bin/env-update
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root29 Feb  1
 20:14 /usr/sbin/etc-update - ../lib/portage/bin/etc-update
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  1873 Jan 10 15:14 /usr/sbin/texmf-update
 nazgul ~ # ls -al /sbin/*config /usr/sbin/*config
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  53788 Nov  1 22:24 /sbin/ifconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  71460 Nov  5 14:42 /sbin/iwconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 564648 Nov  2 08:00 /sbin/ldconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   4412 Nov  1 22:24 /sbin/plipconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  26020 Nov  2 08:00 /usr/sbin/iconvconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   4171 Jan  2 13:48 /usr/sbin/paperconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  10284 Nov  1 22:24 /usr/sbin/pci-config
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  18563 Nov  7 23:25 /usr/sbin/pwmconfig
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   3084 Nov  5 13:27 /usr/sbin/ruby-config

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can I get help here for portage on Sabayon?

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
Thank you. I'll post using a different thread that reflects the issue.
Bob

On Feb 3, 2008 11:24 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
  Sabayon uses gentoo's portage with overlays and I am having
  difficulty with portage conflicts. I will include details if this is
  the right list. If not would someone direct me to the right list?
  Thank you.
  Bob

 Lots of people here know portage, so I see no harm in posting your
 question, especially if what you really want to know is how do I make
 portage do what I want it to do?

 If you are running into a Sabayon weirdness with a buggy overlay, there
 might be a better list, but no harm in asking general stuff here.

 Post the full output of the emerge -pv command you are using

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[gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Stockdale IV
I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. When I run emerge --sync,
it claims that there is an updated version of portage, and I should run
emerge portage before updating any packages. When I run emerge -pv portage I
get:

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

[ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
[ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE=-bindist -gmp
-test 151 kB [0]
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
then resume the merge.
[ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)

Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage



When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:

snipped...
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
-epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
*** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
then resume the merge.
[ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
-bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
[blocks B ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking media-libs/libdca-0.0.5)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is blocking sys-fs/device-
mapper-1.02.22-r5)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking app-shells/bash-
3.2_p33)
[blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10)
[blocks B ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato-
0.8.6.2)
[blocks B ] sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1)
[blocks B ] media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)
[blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev-
3.23.1)
[blocks B ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
linux-2.13.1)
[blocks B ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking net-libs/libgssglue-0.1)
[blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new slots, 13
blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system up to
date.
Thank you,
Bob


Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Kenneth Prugh
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:44:26 +
Robert Stockdale IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. When I run emerge
 --sync, it claims that there is an updated version of portage, and I
 should run emerge portage before updating any packages. When I run
 emerge -pv portage I get:
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/sandbox-1.2.18.1-r2 [1.2.18.1] 232 kB [0]
 [ebuild U ] dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 [2.0.1-r5] USE=-bindist
 -gmp -test 151 kB [0]
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
 -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
 *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
 then resume the merge.
 [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
 -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
 
 Total: 4 packages (4 upgrades, 1 block), Size of downloads: 3,306 kB
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
 
 
 
 When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:
 
 snipped...
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
 -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
 *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
 then resume the merge.
 [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
 -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
 [blocks B ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
 media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is
 blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
 [blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
 kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) [blocks B ]
 dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)
 [blocks B ] sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
 sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking
 sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1) [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is
 blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B ]
 media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
 media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17) [blocks B ]
 sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)
 [blocks B ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
 linux-2.13.1)
 [blocks B ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
 net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10
 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)
 
 Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new
 slots, 13 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
 Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon
 
 
 What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system
 up to date.
 Thank you,
 Bob

Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.

The others I'm not positive of.


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Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread 443-653-1569
On 09:28 Sun 03 Feb , Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Samstag, 2. Februar 2008 schrieb maxim wexler:
 
  At the end of an emerge process I saw two
  recommendations: etc-update and ?-update. The exact
  name escapes me and I can't find it in the logs. It
  seems pretty significant with 100+ updates pending. Do
  you recall the full name?
 
 cfg-update, maybe? So far the best Gentoo config file updater I've used.
 
 HTH...
 
   Dirk

I've tried all the updaters and I also recommend cfg-update.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread ????????? ???????
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Plus I mask x86 only in portage because says masked by: missing
keyword while emerging, it means that the packages isn't available
for your architecture yet, i.e. you are running x86_64 and the
package has for instance x86 keyword only. If you really need that
package, then you can try: echo category/package x86 ~x86 
/etc/portage/package.keywords to override it for package in a
category. (Note: I've used the unstable ~x86 since the rest of
Sabayon is running with unstable keywords anyway). As Gentoo is
source based there's good chance of package compiling and working
without modifications.

2nd solution is to emerge autounmask and use it for every single package

3nd remove packages not familiar how they work

4nd  the book says :

Invalid method (DO NOT USE)

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnome-extra/gdesklets-core , so this
has to be done x86 any way,

5nd Usage: flagedit atom -- +keyword, for example flagedit
dev-util/libconf -- +~x86

 When I try an emerge --pv world I get a lot of blocked packages:

 snipped...
 [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.1 [2.1.3.4-r1] USE=-build -doc
 -epydoc (-selinux) LINGUAS=-pl* 361 kB [0]
 *** Portage will stop merging at this point and reload itself,
 then resume the merge.
 [ebuild U ] app-shells/bash-3.2_p33 [3.2_p15-r1] USE=nls -afs
 -bashlogger -plugins% -vanilla 2,564 kB [0]
 [blocks B ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
 media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is
 blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)
 [blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
 kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) [blocks B ]
 dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)
 [blocks B ] sys-fs/device-mapper-1.02.19-r1 (is blocking
 sys-fs/udev-118-r2)
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/setarch (is blocking
 sys-apps/util-linux-2.13.1) [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is
 blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) [blocks B ]
 media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
 media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17) [blocks B ]
 sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)
 [blocks B ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
 linux-2.13.1)
 [blocks B ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
 net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10
 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

 Total: 616 packages (569 upgrades, 5 downgrades, 33 new, 9 in new
 slots, 13 blocks), Size of downloads: 2,090,644 kB
 Fetch Restriction: 1 package (1 unsatisfied)
 Portage tree and overlays:
  [0] /usr/portage
  [1] /usr/portage/local/layman/sabayon


 What can be done to resolve these problems so I can bring my system
 up to date.
 Thank you,
 Bob
 
 Well first off setarch was replaced with util-linux, so you can nuke
 setarch. Same case with mktemp in that coreutils replaced it.
 
 The others I'm not positive of.

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[gentoo-user] Line drawing characters in Konsole

2008-02-03 Thread Daniel D Jones
Somehow, I've lost my line drawing characters in Konsole.  Applications like 
alsamixer show up with letter characters instead of neatly outlined boxes.  
I've tried changing fonts and encoding with no effect.  Loading the program 
in another console displays correctly.

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[gentoo-user] ALT/GR (Right ALT) as an RETURN?

2008-02-03 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski
Ok, I don't know what's going on, but My laptop have issue - when I 
press ALT/GR (Right ALT) it works like RETURN, executes applications, 
sends messages by Kadu. What's wrong? I've try control panel in KDE, but 
this wont work in regionals settings. Periphernals  Keyboard also don't 
work. My keyboard is OK because in commandline everything is OK.


Any suggestions?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Grant
  I can imagine situations where you'd want to print invoices
  and the like at front offices or even remote storefronts and
  locations, but wouldn't you want a VPN up between your remote
  offices anyway?
 
  That's more or less what I'm trying to do.  Is setting up a
  VPN between my remote server and local network overkill?

 It sounds like the right thing to do to me.  Once you've got a
 VPN set up, then everything else just works.  You'll probably
 end up spending less time seting up one well-secured
 general-purpose connection (VPN) than you would futzing around
 with various security wrappers and kludges for various
 clients/servers.

  I think the only thing I'd use it for is to hide the sending
  of these printouts.

 Once it's up, they're be other things you'll use it for. :)

Ok, no RSA certs, no non-standard port numbers, just use openvpn?

So I would set up openvpn on my remote server and connect to it from:

1. my local print server for printing

2. my laptop for ssh and imap

Could I also only allow access to my website's admin pages through openvpn?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ALT/GR (Right ALT) as an RETURN?

2008-02-03 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Mateusz Mierzwinski pisze:
Ok, I don't know what's going on, but My laptop have issue - when I 
press ALT/GR (Right ALT) it works like RETURN, executes applications, 
sends messages by Kadu. What's wrong? I've try control panel in KDE, 
but this wont work in regionals settings. Periphernals  Keyboard also 
don't work. My keyboard is OK because in commandline everything is OK.


Any suggestions?


And when I turn of Keyboard Layouts and press magic combo 
CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC, run again KDE by startx then everything is OK, but 
until I choice PL Keyboard Layout and press Apply. After that My 
keyboard is going insane. :/ Any bug?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

 [blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
 app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)

emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
does not block

 [blocks B ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
 media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) 

You cannot use these together. libdca-0.0.5 will not emerge if any 
version of libdts is present. The descriptions indicate they do the 
same thing so figure out which you don't need

 [blocks B ] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is 
 blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)

device-mapper wants to be installed before udev is updated. emerge udev 
first, then device-mapper

 [blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
 kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) 

ksync is a meta kde ebuild, kdelibs is monolithic. These two cannot be 
used together. See the KDE howto

 [blocks B ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking 
app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)

Don't know what portato is...

 [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is 
 blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) 

mktemp is now in coreutils. emerge -C mktemp

 [blocks B ] 
 media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking
 media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)

update gst-plugin-ugly first to 0.10.6-r1

 [blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
 sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)

update baselayout first. if this doesn't work, unmerge makedev, update 
baselayout then put makedev back. DO NOT unmerge baselayout.

 [blocks B ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
 linux-2.13.1)

Dunno :-)

 [blocks B ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
 net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) 

Dunno :-)

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[gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Mark Knecht
With an eye toward sharing some directories on my Gentoo machines with
either Windows machines across my network or just making ext3
partitions available when I'm forced to dual boot and find I want
something for my trip to the dark side I'm wondering if there are any
'better' ext2/3 drivers for Windows XP and Vista?

I'm looking at this one

http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html

but don't feel I know what makes one good or bad so maybe someone here
has experience they could share?

I'd really like to share my ext3 file server with my Windows machines
without being forced to use windows file systems.

Thanks,
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Re: {Disarmed} [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Neil Walker

Robert Stockdale IV wrote:
I'm currently running Sabayon on an Ahtlon 64 x2. 


Sabayon creates a complete mess. You have 3 alternatives:

1. Wait for the next Sabayon release and install that.
2. Remove Sabayon and install Gentoo.
3. Spend weeks trying to turn Sabayon into Gentoo. It can be done in 
days if you really know what you are doing but it's a lot of work.


Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Alan McKinnon pisze:

On Sunday 03 February 2008, Robert Stockdale IV wrote:

  

[blocks B ] sys-apps/portage-2.1.4_rc1 (is blocking
app-shells/bash- 3.2_p33)



emerge --sync, there is a later version of portage in the tree that bash 
does not block


  

[blocks B ] media-libs/libdts (is blocking
media-libs/libdca-0.0.5) 



You cannot use these together. libdca-0.0.5 will not emerge if any 
version of libdts is present. The descriptions indicate they do the 
same thing so figure out which you don't need


  
[blocks B ] sys-fs/udev-115-r1 (is 
blocking sys-fs/device- mapper-1.02.22-r5)



device-mapper wants to be installed before udev is updated. emerge udev 
first, then device-mapper


  

[blocks B ] kde-base/ksync (is blocking
kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r10) 



ksync is a meta kde ebuild, kdelibs is monolithic. These two cannot be 
used together. See the KDE howto


  
[blocks B ] dev-util/portatosourceview (is blocking 


app-portage/portato- 0.8.6.2)

Don't know what portato is...

  
[blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is 
blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r1) 



mktemp is now in coreutils. emerge -C mktemp

  
[blocks B ] 
media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 (is blocking

media-libs/gstreamer-0.10.17)



update gst-plugin-ugly first to 0.10.6-r1

  

[blocks B ] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.0_rc (is blocking
sys-apps/makedev- 3.23.1)



update baselayout first. if this doesn't work, unmerge makedev, update 
baselayout then put makedev back. DO NOT unmerge baselayout.


  

[blocks B ] sys-process/schedutils (is blocking sys-apps/util-
linux-2.13.1)



Dunno :-)

  

[blocks B ] app-crypt/libgssapi (is blocking
net-libs/libgssglue-0.1) 



Dunno :-)

  

Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:

I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to 
start it silently fail.
I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.  
Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.

Does anybody want to help me guess?


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Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next 
try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge 
pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run again. If 
renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of 
configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings 
happend, wrote here.


Mateusz M.
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Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread maxim wexler
 Was it dispatch-conf by any chance?  It does the
 same thing as
 etc-update.  100+, WOW.  he he he


Now that I've thought about it more I recall it didn't
specify a command, what it said was something like
there are n files in /etc that have changed then
something like see man emerge for further details
Then on the next line was a similar warning, but for a
different /dir which I mismember.

Why would they use dispatch-conf if it's the same
thing as etc-update

I looked in /usr/lib/portage/bin; if it's anywhere,
it'll be in there, but I didn't recognize it. Oh well,
I'll know how bad things are the next time I reboot

 
 I'm not going to tell how many times I hit the tab
 key when trying to
 type in those commands.   ;-) 

What do you mean? I just overwrite most of them
automatically except for those few I need to keep the
same

Maxim


  

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 4:27 AM, Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 02/02/08 22:26:

   I've installed cups and hplip.  I cannot follow the Gentoo
   printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
   hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything
 in
   /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I
   usually run as a Postscrpt printer.
 
   What have I missed?
 
   Run hp-setup
 
   You'll probably need to rework your cups config files if you've
   retained them from the broken install.  hp-setup should enable
   local printing OK.
 
   And if it still gives you problems, delete /etc/cups then
 reemerge
   cups.  I had to do that last part too.
 
   The problem is that my printer is on the LPT port (/dev/lp0), and
   hp-setup does not find it.  In fact it has an option for LPT
   printers, but it is greyed out.
 
   The printer is really there: I can print by cat printme
 /dev/lp0
   with a suitably formed printme file (lines need CR, file ends
 with
   ^L^D).
 
   Hmmm.  Digging slightly deeper, I found the /usr/bin/hp-probe
   program. It lets me specifically request a probe of LPT, but finds
   nothing there.  The printer remains attached.  I'm even more
 deeply
   stumped than before.
 
  Try: hp-setup -i /dev/parport0
 
  See if that helps.
 
  Try hp-setup -hfor other options.
 
  I take it that your kernel has parallel port support generated, and
 that
  you have file permission to access /dev/lp0 ?

  It runs, but only gives me options for usb and net.  This makes some
  sense since there are no /dev/parport* entries in my system.

  Nevertheless, I have parallel port support as I understand it.  From my
  kernel (2.6.22-gentoo-r6) .config file:

  #
  # Generic Driver Options
  #
  CONFIG_STANDALONE=y
  CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y
  CONFIG_FW_LOADER=m
  # CONFIG_SYS_HYPERVISOR is not set
  # CONFIG_CONNECTOR is not set
  # CONFIG_MTD is not set
  CONFIG_PARPORT=yparallel port
  CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y  PC style
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
  # CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
  CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
  CONFIG_PNP=y
  # CONFIG_PNP_DEBUG is not set

 Your kernel set-up looks reasonable to me.

 I don't have parallel port support generated into my system, as I don't
 have a parallel printer.

 On a Centos host with parallel port support, 2.6.18 kernel:

 CONFIG_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL=m
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_FIFO is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_SUPERIO is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_PCMCIA=m
 CONFIG_PARPORT_NOT_PC=y
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_GSC is not set
 # CONFIG_PARPORT_AX88796 is not set
 CONFIG_PARPORT_1284=y
 CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT=m
 CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT_LIGHT=m

 ls /dev/par* shows:

 /dev/par0  /dev/parport0  /dev/parport1  /dev/parport2  /dev/parport3

 Do you have a standard parallel port, or a special IO card?

 Have you modified /etc/udev.d rules? I have these (unmodified) entries:

 rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==lp*,NAME=%k, GROUP=lp
 rules.d/50-udev.rules:KERNEL==parport*,   NAME=%k, GROUP=lp

 I'm puzzled by this, as your /dev/lp0 print test worked.

 The only other suggestion I have would be to try:

 hp-setup -i /dev/lp0

 Don't know if hp-setup will accept this, might be worth having a go.

 Cheers, Dave
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 hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0

I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong.  The drive that held
my root directory and all
configs had failed.  Friday, i got it back from the DiskSavers, along with
the data on a new USB
external drive.  Copying over the cups config files just magically made the
printer work locally.
That's enough for now.

I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore the fact
that I have no idea what
keeps my CUPS working.

I think I've got cron backing up to that USB drive nightly -- using rsync it
takes about an hour for
all partitions, unattended.  Beats the blazes out of hovering over the DVD
drive.  And i'm pretty sure
I won't end up in the same fix again.

But I've still got to get the LPD service going, not to mention apache,
vmware, ntp and gaim/pidgin.
And I have a day job.

I'll get around to it.  Real Soon Now.

++ kevin


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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Brian Marshall
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
 I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
 start it silently fail.
 I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
 Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
 Does anybody want to help me guess?
 
 
You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.


Brian


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Re: [gentoo-user] BIG-UPDATE! ;) If I survive, then gentoo rulezz... :)

2008-02-03 Thread Dale
maxim wexler wrote:
 Was it dispatch-conf by any chance?  It does the
 same thing as
 etc-update.  100+, WOW.  he he he
 


 Now that I've thought about it more I recall it didn't
 specify a command, what it said was something like
 there are n files in /etc that have changed then
 something like see man emerge for further details
 Then on the next line was a similar warning, but for a
 different /dir which I mismember.

 Why would they use dispatch-conf if it's the same
 thing as etc-update

 I looked in /usr/lib/portage/bin; if it's anywhere,
 it'll be in there, but I didn't recognize it. Oh well,
 I'll know how bad things are the next time I reboot
   


They have two because a lot of people like dispatch-conf.  It archives
old configs just in case something . . . well. . . screws up badly.

   
 I'm not going to tell how many times I hit the tab
 key when trying to
 type in those commands.   ;-) 
 

 What do you mean? I just overwrite most of them
 automatically except for those few I need to keep the
 same

 Maxim

   

If you are in a console and type in eme then hit the tab key, it will
fill in the rest of the command emerge for you.  Saves you from typing
the whole thing.  You can do the same when changing directories and such
too.  Saves you a lot of typing but when you are typing in a email, it
doesn't fill it in for ya.  Then you have to backspace and fill in the
whole thing yourself.

Try it sometime.  It'll grow on you.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo rebuild, cups won't work WORKAROUND (i.e. mysteriously solved)

2008-02-03 Thread Dave Jones
Kevin O'Gorman wrote on 04/02/08 00:19:

 I've installed cups and hplip  I cannot follow the Gentoo 
 printing guide, because that worthy document requires me to add
 hplip to the default runlevel, but hplip does not put anything in
 /etc/init.d.  My printer is an old HP Laserjet 4M, which I usually
 run as a Postscrpt printer.
 What have I missed?

 hp-setup stubbornly refuses to acknowledge /dev/lp0

 I got it to work, but don't really know what was wrong.  The drive
 that held my root directory and all configs had failed.  Friday, i
 got it back from the DiskSavers, along with the data on a new USB 
 external drive.  Copying over the cups config files just magically
 made the printer work locally.

 That's enough for now.

 I'm still struggling with a host of issues, so I'm going to ignore
 the fact that I have no idea what keeps my CUPS working.

 I think I've got cron backing up to that USB drive nightly -- using 
 rsync it takes about an hour for all partitions, unattended.  Beats
 the blazes out of hovering over the DVD drive.  And i'm pretty sure I
 won't end up in the same fix again.

 But I've still got to get the LPD service going, not to mention
 apache, vmware, ntp and gaim/pidgin.

 And I have a day job.

 I'll get around to it.  Real Soon Now.

Glad to hear that you're up and running, and thanks for the timely
reminder to do a backup! 8-)

Please check that you have USE=parport enabled for hplip

The contents of /etc/hp/hplip.conf and the output of:
hp-check
   - and -
hp-probe -bpar

would also be interesting.

Cheers, Dave
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Pupino
2008/2/3, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 With an eye toward sharing some directories on my Gentoo machines with
 either Windows machines across my network or just making ext3
 partitions available when I'm forced to dual boot and find I want
 something for my trip to the dark side I'm wondering if there are any
 'better' ext2/3 drivers for Windows XP and Vista?

 I'm looking at this one

 http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html

 but don't feel I know what makes one good or bad so maybe someone here
 has experience they could share?

 I'd really like to share my ext3 file server with my Windows machines
 without being forced to use windows file systems.

 Thanks,
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Hi Mark,
I'm using that driver on windows vista from some weeks ago till now
and it seems to give no trouble... You can see your linux partition
just as an ordinary windows partition...

Apart this i don't know if this could be considered a good/bad driver...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
  I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
  I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
  start it silently fail.
  I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
  Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
  Does anybody want to help me guess?
 
 
  --
  Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
 Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
 try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync  emerge
 pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run again. If
 renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
 configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
 happend, wrote here.

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renaming .gaim to dot.gaim makes no difference.

I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.

++ kevin



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Re: [gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Feb 3, 2008 4:13 PM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 3, 2008 4:00 PM, Pupino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Mark,
  I'm using that driver on windows vista from some weeks ago till now
  and it seems to give no trouble... You can see your linux partition
  just as an ordinary windows partition...
 
  Apart this i don't know if this could be considered a good/bad driver...
  --

 Thank you sir. I shall consider that a good enough recommendation to
 give it a try.


Hey, nice. Less than 2 minutes later I'm listening to music under
Windows playing off of my ext3 music partition on this machine. I set
up the driver as read only until I get more confidence with it.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Feb 3, 2008 4:00 PM, Pupino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/2/3, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  With an eye toward sharing some directories on my Gentoo machines with
  either Windows machines across my network or just making ext3
  partitions available when I'm forced to dual boot and find I want
  something for my trip to the dark side I'm wondering if there are any
  'better' ext2/3 drivers for Windows XP and Vista?
 
  I'm looking at this one
 
  http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
 
  but don't feel I know what makes one good or bad so maybe someone here
  has experience they could share?
 
  I'd really like to share my ext3 file server with my Windows machines
  without being forced to use windows file systems.
 
  Thanks,
  Mark
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 Hi Mark,
 I'm using that driver on windows vista from some weeks ago till now
 and it seems to give no trouble... You can see your linux partition
 just as an ordinary windows partition...

 Apart this i don't know if this could be considered a good/bad driver...
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Thank you sir. I shall consider that a good enough recommendation to
give it a try.

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
 Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
  I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
  start it silently fail.
  I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
  Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
  Does anybody want to help me guess?
 
 
 You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
 Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.


Brian


Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a poll(6,
...) followed by a read(6, ...)
on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.  Pidgin promptly dies
without a message.  Pidgin
had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the
contents.  The last few:

writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0%\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\35\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\36\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\'\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {\37\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)= 0
munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)= 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0(\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {!\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)   = 0
munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0)\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {#\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)   = 0
munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)   = 0
munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)   = 0
munmap(0xb681, 33468)   = 0
munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)   = 0
munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)= 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0*\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {)\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0+\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {*\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0,\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {+\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)   = 0
munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)  = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0-\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {,\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)  = 0
munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)   = 0
writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0.\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
136}, {/\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)= 0
munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)  = 0

...


gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
writev(6, [{l\1\0\1#\0\0\0/\0\0\0\177\0\0\0\1\1o\0\25\0\0\0/org/fre...,
144}, {\36\0\0\0im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi..., 35}], 2) = 179
gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
read(6, l\2\1\1\4\0\0\0\4\0\0\0=\0\0\0\6\1s\0\4\0\0\0:1.3\0\0\0\0...,
2048) = 84


++ kevin


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Re: [gentoo-user] Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

2008-02-03 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Feb 3, 2008 4:16 PM, Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
  Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I just got around to noticing that my gaim IM client is deprecated.
   I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
   start it silently fail.
   I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
   Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
   Does anybody want to help me guess?
  
  
  You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
  Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.
 
 
 Brian
 

 Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

 I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a
 poll(6, ...) followed by a read(6, ...)
 on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.  Pidgin promptly dies
 without a message.  Pidgin
 had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the
 contents.  The last few:

 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0%\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\35\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\36\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0\'\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {\37\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)= 0
 munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)= 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0(\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {!\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0)\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {#\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)   = 0
 munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)   = 0
 munmap(0xb681, 33468)   = 0
 munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)   = 0
 munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)= 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0*\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {)\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0+\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {*\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0,\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {+\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)   = 0
 munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)  = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0-\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {,\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)  = 0
 munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)   = 0
 writev(6, [{l\4\1\1\4\0\0\0.\0\0\0w\0\0\0\1\1o\0\36\0\0\0/im/pidg...,
 136}, {/\0\0\0, 4}], 2) = 140
 munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)= 0
 munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)  = 0

 ...


 gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
 gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
 writev(6, [{l\1\0\1#\0\0\0/\0\0\0\177\0\0\0\1\1o\0\25\0\0\0/org/fre...,
 144}, {\36\0\0\0im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi..., 35}], 2) = 179
 gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
 poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
 read(6, l\2\1\1\4\0\0\0\4\0\0\0=\0\0\0\6\1s\0\4\0\0\0:1.3\0\0\0\0...,
 2048) = 84


 ++ kevin


 --
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More info: pidgin works fine if I'm the root user.  How that fits in with
socket ops I do not know.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:

 Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).

Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
 
 Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).
 
 Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?
 

Graphical User Interface.

Usually compared to a CLI, Command Line Interface.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage issue

2008-02-03 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag, 4. Februar 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 04 February 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
  Portato is GUI for portage/emerge ;).

 Erm, hmmm, what's a GUI?

A GUY who lost his `
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[gentoo-user] constantly restarting esd

2008-02-03 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,

This seems to happen only with rhythmbox, not with mplayer or totem
(although I don't use totem much, and mplayer mostly for video):

After playing 3 or 4 songs, at the beginning of a song rhythmbox will
refuse to play anything.  When I press the play button, the play-pause
indication toggles, but the current song positions stays at the
beginning.  Rhythmbox outputs:

(rhythmbox:26642): RhythmDB-CRITICAL **: rhythmdb_entry_get_string:
assertion `entry != NULL' failed

on the terminal.

To fix it, I have to kill esd, and restart it.  Then I can press play
and everyone's happy.  Until it happens again...  This seems to be more
prevalent if I skip forward through a few songs.

I'm using the latest unstable everything (~x86).  Maybe the un before
stable is a clue :)  However this behaviour has been going for a while.

Any hints?  thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] ALT/GR (Right ALT) as an RETURN?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 21:32:47 +0100
Mateusz Mierzwinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mateusz Mierzwinski pisze:
  Ok, I don't know what's going on, but My laptop have issue - when I 
  press ALT/GR (Right ALT) it works like RETURN, executes
  applications, sends messages by Kadu. What's wrong? I've try
  control panel in KDE, but this wont work in regionals settings.
  Periphernals  Keyboard also don't work. My keyboard is OK because
  in commandline everything is OK.
 
  Any suggestions?

No, just questions: 

 1) what kind of keyboard do you use 
 2) what kind of keyboard setting do you use at the console
 3) What is your keyboard setting in X

Can you answer these?
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 13:27:50 -0800
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'd really like to share my ext3 file server with my Windows machines
 without being forced to use windows file systems.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark

If you want to get files to windows hosts that aren't running
(dual-boot), you can do so with ntfs-3g which is a FUSE filesystem that
can write to NTFS.

If the systems are running alongside the linux, use SMB/CIFS -- serve
on windows if you don't want those 'filesystems' to access your
linux.  I don't trust SMB shares either, but putting data from linux
onto them is no different than putting files on there with a flash
drive or disc.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} CUPS alternative?

2008-02-03 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 12:25:25 -0800
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I would set up openvpn on my remote server and connect to it from:

here's a few ideas about the subject, some options to think about.  

 1. my local print server for printing

Look into routed vpn networks.  If I were in your case I would probably
set up a VPN server on (one of) my firewall(s) and then either
route/allow :641 traffic to the remote print server through the VPN or
simply redirect :641 connections through the VPN, just like port
forwarding for NATed servers behind firewalls.  in this configuration,
the remote print server is really a VPN client rather than a server.

 2. my laptop for ssh and imap

I like to allow myself, with my laptop, to connect to my SOHO-sized
server setup through a VPN.  To this end I tell the gateways on select
subnets to route throught to the VPN, and tell the VPN server to route
to those subnets' gateways.  That way I can configure any computer
(through the vpn, of course) without having to worry about opening it
to external connections.  If you wanted to make the VPN transparent,
you could NAT the VPN traffic instead, and make it look like it came
from the VPN server itself.  

I cringe at the idea of having to use a VPN for imap, however.  

 Could I also only allow access to my website's admin pages through
 openvpn?

You could, but it might be a little tricky, depending on your setup.
If it were my goal, I would probably put the server pages in a
directory and control access to that directory to only VPN addresses
(Again, this assumes a routed vpn). Or you could put it on a different
server entirely.  

However, I would do no such thing.  I would want to use an entirely
different access scheme for website admin, using a user login to
perhaps an ssl protected webpage, or if I were really concerned, HTTP
authentication.  . I would not want my web admins, who likely enjoy the
ease with which they can manipulate their web pages, to be allowed on
the VPN, and wouldn't want to set it up on their computers or worry
about them getting viruses and the like.  It's hard for a virus to
transmit in a meaningful fashion over FTP and access to webpages, but
trojans on a VPN client give the trojan controller the same access to
the VPN -- and a copy of the client's certificates.  I am not quick to
pass out trusted certs for my vpn.  

In short, better uses of the VPN in this case would probalby be remote
access to the corp. network from your laptop and secure access to
remote print servers from whatever the number of hosts.   

 - Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] [Slightly OT] ext3 for Windows XP/Vista?

2008-02-03 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 2/3/08, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With an eye toward sharing some directories on my Gentoo machines with
 either Windows machines across my network or just making ext3
 partitions available when I'm forced to dual boot and find I want
 something for my trip to the dark side I'm wondering if there are any
 'better' ext2/3 drivers for Windows XP and Vista?

This will not give you information much different to that already
presented, but could still take a look here [1].

Liviu

[1] 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Lightweight_package_selection_(using_Xfce_and_suitable_for_office_usage)#Choosing_the_filesystem
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