[gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a laptop. I want to ask, which graphic cards are better supported in Linux. I know that ATI have freed or in the process of freeing their graphic cards driver. But I did not have any good memory from my previous experience with ATI. My previous card was ATI radeon 9600m and it never worked the way it had to until broken. I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? Best regards Platoali -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/conf.d/net postup help
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:44:10 -0700, Grant wrote:
postup() {
set -xv
if [[ ${IFACE} == ath0 ]] ; then
iwconfig ath0 rate 2M
fi
return 0
}
What is wrong, the syntax looks fine. Does running the iwconfig
manually after connection work?
I can't test the computer that's having the issue right now, but it
outputs some strange stuff like:
/a/t/h/0/
Try it without the set line, this is not running in a bash shell. If you
need information as the script runs, echo it to a file and tail that
file.
--
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Bother, said Pooh, more from force of habit than anything else.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Hello On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:42:22PM +0430, Platoali wrote: And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? I had an nvidia some time ago (2 years). I had to give up 3D, since the proprietary drivers gave me hell. Only about every third version worked (only with every second kernel version). Even when it worked, it sometimes crashed the whole kernel or didn't render fonts. Now I have intel i915 and I'm happy. It is not a strong card, but it supports 3D, I'm able to even play games on it, it allows plugging in monitors at runtime (with X capable of resizing the screen pretending it is xinerama). I have no experience with ati. -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpXmvmeFTSn0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: In case of the timestamp issue i think it is a bug [1]. I think portage should first check the timestamps and if they are different it should delete the cache! Interesting idea - I've been running eix-sync in my crontab. Perhaps that hasn't been updating the edb cache. I've changed it eix-sync -r, perhaps that will fix things. Follow up - you were spot on. I have my server --sync every Friday evening, and my desktop was syncing against that on a daily basis. Thanks for your help, that was driving me nuts. Paul -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?[OT]
Paul Sobey wrote: I have my server --sync every Friday evening, and my desktop was syncing against that on a daily basis. Thanks for your help, that was driving me nuts. Paul Out of interest, why? If the server only syncs once per week, you *know* that nothing will change as far as the client (i.e. desktop) is concerned 6 out of 7 of the times it syncs? Seems a waste? Anthony -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Hi, I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK. I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools. If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it. I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect? Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it Cheers Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote: Hi, I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK. I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools. If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it. I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect? I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant permanent problem. Windows works fine. AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts. Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it Cheers Paul __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3193 (20080617) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Sergey -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Platoali platoali at gmail.com writes: I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? All religious questions, imho. Nvidia might have the latest edge in pure performance, but, the movement to open up sources is definitely an opportunity for a game changing situation, imho. And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? kernel newbies has some information for you to start your research: Section 3 DRIVERS: Section 3.1 Graphics: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#head-d08660c208028aa2b3783826cd7935ab510b736f You might also use this page for comparison purposes: http://freestone-group.com/video-card-stability-test/benchmark-results.html Personally, I like ATI, but it more because I believe that AMD will come closer to doing what's best for opensource rather than Nvidia or Intel. It would be great if I'm wrong When you spend your money, you are casting a vote, imho. hth, James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Hi Sergey, Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e. iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden ssids, if at all, and it does seem messy Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this? Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to and I would hope that I could replicate it Cheers paul -Original Message- From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote: Hi, I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK. I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools. If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it. I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect? I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant permanent problem. Windows works fine. AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts. Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it Cheers Paul __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3193 (20080617) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- Sergey -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3193 (20080617) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3193 (20080617) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:31 +0100
Paul Melvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sergey,
Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the
iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e.
iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid
However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden
ssids, if at all, and it does seem messy
Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?
Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to
and I would hope that I could replicate it
Cheers
paul
-Original Message-
From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:
Hi,
I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am
trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off
the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes
that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to
connect?
I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link
DWL-G500 adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant
permanent problem. Windows works fine.
AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.
Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to
make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu
where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
Cheers
Paul
I use wpa_supplicant and it's working flawlessly with a hidden ssid and
some unhidden ones. Here is an excerpt from my wpa_supplicant.conf:
network={ --normal net with wpa2 and visible ssid
ssid=...
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=...
}
network={ --net with wep and hidden ssid
scan_ssid=1
ssid=...
key_mgmt=NONE
wep_key0=8346...
wep_tx_keyidx=0
}
eapol_version=1 --some general options
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
I'm using iwl3945, by the way.
As far as Ubuntu goes, I think they use networkmanager which gives you
a nice gui but only marginal advantages over properly configured
wpa_supplicant and /etc/conf.d/net-files.
Here are some parts of my /etc/conf.d/net:
modules_eth1=( wpa_supplicant )
wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext
iwconfig_eth1=txpower on
#some SSID-specific options for nets I know. On every other net dhcp is
#assumed
config_SSID1=( 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 )
routes_SSID1=( default via 192.168.2.1 )
dns_servers_SSID1=( 192.168.4.1 )
config_SSID2=( dhcp )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
James wrote: Platoali platoali at gmail.com writes: I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? Just a suggestion, wait about a month before you buy, if you can. Both ATi and nVidia are poised to release new generations of cards, both which outperform their predecessors at a lower price point. All religious questions, imho. Nvidia might have the latest edge in pure performance, but, the movement to open up sources is definitely an opportunity for a game changing situation, imho. nVidia user here, I haven't had any problems with their drivers. Sure, there's the occasional version with a memory leak, etc... and when that happens I just downgrade to the last stable version and wait for a better one to come out. And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. kernel newbies has some information for you to start your research: Section 3 DRIVERS: Section 3.1 Graphics: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges#head-d08660c208028aa2b3783826cd7935ab510b736f You might also use this page for comparison purposes: http://freestone-group.com/video-card-stability-test/benchmark-results.html Personally, I like ATI, but it more because I believe that AMD will come closer to doing what's best for opensource rather than Nvidia or Intel. It would be great if I'm wrong When you spend your money, you are casting a vote, imho. hth, James -Hal -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Multiple TV Cards.
I'm building a MythTV box and I have two TV tuners I'd like to use. One is a AVerMedia TVPhone (video0 - this card works fine) the other is an ATI TV-Wonder VE (video1 - does not work fine). The TV Wonder apparently needs to be told which tuner to use via these instructions: http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_TV-Wonder_VE ---8--- poppa-serve ~ # grep bttv /etc/modules.conf alias char-major-81 bttv options bttv tuner=2 ---8--- Linux does seem to be picking up the wrong tuner for this card (dmesg shows bttv1: using tuner=19). But since I have two video cards that are both using bttv... How do I set this option for one but not the other? Can I 'rmmod' the driver for video1 but not video0? -- // Andrew MacKenzie | http://www.edespot.com // GPG public key: http://www.edespot.com/~amackenz/public.key // ** Windows has detected a mouse movement. // ** Please restart Windows so changes can take effect. pgpnULG6yQV45.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. Same here with nvidia driver on a 8800GTS GC. A former ATI addict who left for performance issues. Gal' -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Hello, I can only comment about my experience (facts). On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:42:22 +0430 Platoali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a laptop. I want to ask, which graphic cards are better supported in Linux. I know that ATI have freed or in the process of freeing their graphic cards driver. No, they just released some specs. They did not release a single line of the fglrx driver source. But I did not have any good memory from my previous experience with ATI. My previous card was ATI radeon 9600m and it never worked the way it had to until broken. I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? I tried it yet-once-more a couple of months ago, it did not work, just like the few dozens I've tried before. Particularly I found: 1.- 100% cpu usage under any wm, while idle 2.- xinerama just plainly doesn't work, it's not usable, and provoqued xorg log spamming due to a bug This was with an hd2600. And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? I never found a nvidia card with did not work with a simple emerge nvidia-drivers. They just work. In any case, luck with anything you choose. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpMXwJG9dXcL.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Hi Florian,
Mine will not associate with the hidden ap, my files are below, please have
a look to see if I have missed anything as I would like to get this working
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
network={
scan_ssid=1
ssid=ng6
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP
psk=123456
priority=2
}
/etc/conf.d/net
config_eth0=( dhcp )
config_eth1=( dhcp )
#iwconfig eth1 essid ng6
modules=( wpa_supplicant )
wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext
wpa_timeout_eth1=60
how can I stop the wpa (just use a kill?) so that I can reload the settings
and if I use the -dd option should I be able to find out what is wrong?
thanks
paul
-Original Message-
From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 June 2008 13:45
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:07:31 +0100
Paul Melvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Sergey,
Thanks for that, since my question I have found that if I enter the
iwconfig command into /etc/conf.d/net it does work; i.e.
iwconfig eth1 essid name_of_ssid
However I am not sure how this would work if I had a load of hidden
ssids, if at all, and it does seem messy
Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this?
Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to
and I would hope that I could replicate it
Cheers
paul
-Original Message-
From: Sergey Kobzar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 June 2008 11:55
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 1:37:29 PM, Paul wrote:
Hi,
I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am
trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK.
I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module,
wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools.
If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off
the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes
that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it.
I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to
connect?
I have similar problem with Cisco AP and Intel 3945, D-Link DWL-G500
adapters under Gentoo/FreeBSD. Looks like it's wpa_supplicant
permanent problem. Windows works fine.
AFAIK there is no solution except using broadcasts.
Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to
make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu
where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it
Cheers
Paul
I use wpa_supplicant and it's working flawlessly with a hidden ssid and some
unhidden ones. Here is an excerpt from my wpa_supplicant.conf:
network={ --normal net with wpa2 and visible ssid
ssid=...
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=...
}
network={ --net with wep and hidden ssid
scan_ssid=1
ssid=...
key_mgmt=NONE
wep_key0=8346...
wep_tx_keyidx=0
}
eapol_version=1 --some general options
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
I'm using iwl3945, by the way.
As far as Ubuntu goes, I think they use networkmanager which gives you a
nice gui but only marginal advantages over properly configured
wpa_supplicant and /etc/conf.d/net-files.
Here are some parts of my /etc/conf.d/net:
modules_eth1=( wpa_supplicant )
wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext
iwconfig_eth1=txpower on
#some SSID-specific options for nets I know. On every other net dhcp is
#assumed config_SSID1=( 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 ) routes_SSID1=(
default via 192.168.2.1 ) dns_servers_SSID1=( 192.168.4.1 )
config_SSID2=( dhcp )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Galevsky schrieb: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Hal Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I haven't had any difficulties with the nVidia drivers. I'm running a GeForce 7900GTX, which uses the same linux driver as the Quadro does. Same here with nvidia driver on a 8800GTS GC. A former ATI addict who left for performance issues. Gal' Second! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Platoali schrieb: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a laptop. I want to ask, which graphic cards are better supported in Linux. I know that ATI have freed or in the process of freeing their graphic cards driver. But I did not have any good memory from my previous experience with ATI. My previous card was ATI radeon 9600m and it never worked the way it had to until broken. I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? Best regards Platoali Quoting Donnie from his interview with LinuxCrazy: [0:04:38] comprookie2000: What video card do you recommend? dberkholz: I like ATI or Intel, depending on your needs. Both of them have done a really good job of opening up all their documentation and their drivers in the past couple of years, more recently ATI: Intel's been doing it for a while and set the standard. If you're a gamer, you probably want ATI instead of Intel because the Intel ones don't perform as well, but they're really nice and cheap and open. Some NVidia cards work with a reverse-engineered driver called Nouveau http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/, but I don't really want to support a company that doesn't support open source. comprookie2000: Yeah, I was on newegg.com http://hewegg.com and they interviewed a person from NVidia and they said they weren't going to open up the drivers, that's what the guy said on the interview. Tell me about your everyday box. Full transcript here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=5099210#5099210 Podcast here: http://linuxcrazy.com/?q=node/33 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On 2008-06-17, Platoali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a laptop. I want to ask, which graphic cards are better supported in Linux. I know that ATI have freed or in the process of freeing their graphic cards driver. But I did not have any good memory from my previous experience with ATI. My previous card was ATI radeon 9600m and it never worked the way it had to until broken. I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. Definitely nVidia. Over the past few years I've had a 3-4 of each (ATI and nVidia). I've had continuous problems with ATI (on all 3 different boards/chipsets). DRI works sort-of, some of the time. The free drivers lock up, the closed-source drivers work a little better have have bugs even in 2D mode. The video overlay never worked on one of my ATI board (the one that used to be in my HTPC setup). All the nVidia cards just work. The open 2D drivers just work. The closed 3D drivers just work. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? I run a dual-DVI Quadro something-or-other and never had a single problem. Just did an emerge nvidia-drivers, and everything (including DRI) worked. Same for a dual-head nVidia 6200 setup. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'll show you MY at telex number if you show me visi.comYOURS ... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
Is wpa_supplicant the best/only way to do this? Please can anyone tell me how this works in ubuntu as it does seem to and I would hope that I could replicate it (K)ubuntu use NetworkManager. For what it's worth, I also use this on my laptop, and it works very well, particularly when you're joining a lot of unknown networks, e.g. wandering into coffee shops etc.. It only serves as a front end to wpa_supplicant though, so if your machine isn't working with that, you may still have troubles. KNetworkManager is hard masked in portage btw. Paul -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -puv really slow?[OT]
Out of interest, why? If the server only syncs once per week, you *know* that nothing will change as far as the client (i.e. desktop) is concerned 6 out of 7 of the times it syncs? Seems a waste? No reason at all - just set one up a few weeks after the first and didn't think. And of course it wasn't an issue until recently - that cache clearing behaviour of portage seems to have changed - so have only just noticed :) Paul -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Hi, if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. There are problem threads on nvnews. But its a support forum most people using nvidia don't have any problems. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. Does this mean that AMD have not released 3d parts of the drivers? Do they plan to release the 3d parts? There are problem threads on nvnews. But its a support forum most people using nvidia don't have any problems. Well, I've search a little bit, and found that Ati firegl 5600 beats Quadro fx 1700 in every way. according to this: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/graphics-cards/specapc-3ds-max-9-graphics,117.html Although all tests have been run on windows. It seems that Ati have better hardware and it is also going to be more open source friendly in near future. I'm planning to use this workstation for 3 or 4 years or even more. So I'm thinking to risk a little and bet on AMD , and hope that they deserve my hard earned money. but I'm not sure yet. I need to do a little more search about AMD plans, and current development status of ATI driver. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
To restart my wireless connection i make this: First, configuring my rtl8185 on /etc/conf.d/net Second, in /etc/init.d make a symbolic link where ln -s net.lo net.wlan0 Finally /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start|stop|restart works well. Bye Paul Melvin escreveu: Hi, I have a dell laptop with intel wireless card (ipw2200) and am trying to configure it to use WPA-PSK. I have setup up the card correctly utilizing the ipw2200 module, wpa_supplicant and wireless_tools. If I use a broadcast ssid everything works, however if I turn off the broadcast on the ap and do a debug of the wpa, it recognizes that there is a hidden ssid but will not connect to it. I would rather use hidden ssids than not but how can I get it to connect? Please can you also tell me a quick way to restart the interface to make it go through all the negotiaton, as I have moved from ubuntu where /etc/init.d/networking restart did it Cheers Paul -- Zhu Sha Zang Hyaku ne hayanda yo! ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison
Original Message Subject: Re: Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:48:33 + (UTC) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:19 -0700 From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:58 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: I am just curious which distribution have the most packaged Open Source software. It seems to me this is Debian? Is there a good comparison (numbers, statistics, etc)? Debian, by a long shot. 26,000 packages. Next closest competitor (Ubuntu) has 23,000. Most (all?) of the RPM-based distributions are below 10,000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions#Features This isn't really much surprise, though. RPM distributions have been rather incomplete compared to the Debian ones for over a decade now. -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:09:43 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: Debian, by a long shot. 26,000 packages. Next closest competitor (Ubuntu) has 23,000. Both of those split many packages into a two, with the headers in a separate -devel package. One of the reasons why such comparisons do little more than justify Oscar Wilde's view of statistics. -- Neil Bothwick Did you hear about the blind prostitute? You have to hand it to her. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On 2008-06-17, Platoali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does this mean that AMD have not released 3d parts of the drivers? Do they plan to release the 3d parts? AMD hasn't release _any_ parts of the drivers, and they have no plans to do so. Although all tests have been run on windows. It seems that Ati have better hardware and it is also going to be more open source friendly in near future. IMO, it's going to be a long time before there are usable open-source ATI driver. I'm planning to use this workstation for 3 or 4 years or even more. If I were you, I wouldn't plan on having decent ATI drivers in 3 or 4 years. So I'm thinking to risk a little and bet on AMD, and hope that they deserve my hard earned money. but I'm not sure yet. I need to do a little more search about AMD plans, and current development status of ATI driver. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I've got a COUSIN at who works in the GARMENT visi.comDISTRICT ... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Platoali wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. Does this mean that AMD have not released 3d parts of the drivers? Do they plan to release the 3d parts? they haven't released a 'driver'. So they can't release '3d parts' of it. They released all the necessary documentation and they are working with Novell to create open drivers (there are two projects to create open ati drivers - to increase the mess). The closed source frglx drivers are still closed source. They are still the only option to get working 3d and they still suck ass. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, 19:09, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:58 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: I am just curious which distribution have the most packaged Open Source software. It seems to me this is Debian? Is there a good comparison (numbers, statistics, etc)? If you want numbers, albeit some very very approximate and unreliable ones, see this thread: http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-userm=120559610322950w=2 Do NOT take those figures too seriously. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: Original Message Subject: Re: Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:48:33 + (UTC) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:47:19 -0700 From: Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:58 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote: I am just curious which distribution have the most packaged Open Source software. It seems to me this is Debian? Is there a good comparison (numbers, statistics, etc)? Debian, by a long shot. 26,000 packages. Next closest competitor (Ubuntu) has 23,000. Most (all?) of the RPM-based distributions are below 10,000. and if you put the headers back to the libs where they belong, you could easily half debians packages. Wesnoth = one package in gentoo Wesnoth = almost a douzend packages in debian. so the results are skewed. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Platoali platoali at gmail.com writes: Although all tests have been run on windows. It seems that Ati have better hardware and it is also going to be more open source friendly in near future. I'm planning to use this workstation for 3 or 4 years or even more. So I'm thinking to risk a little and bet on AMD , and hope that they deserve my hard earned money. but I'm not sure yet. I need to do a little more search about AMD plans, and current development status of ATI driver. One thing I'd like to point out, from what I've read. Many people think that AMD/ATI can just release sources. Most of the time, due to the fact that other companies license software and resell their(ati) hardware designs, so AMD/ATI is legally bound not to release those sources directly. So that is why they publish documentation (whenever possible) about the specifics of the graphics hardware. I for one, as a firmware engineer, believe that AMD/ATI have turned a significant corner in their attitude and subsequent plans to position their company to be very attractive to the open source community. I also believe that it make take some more months to see the fruit of these efforts and some years for this fruit to become widespread. (Things always take a while with technology and lawyers). But, these are my opinions, not, in any way actually connect to AMD/ATI. (over simplified VLSI perspective): There is something larger at work here, imho. That is that the GPU /cellprocessor /microprocessor are merging onto the same substrate, for a variety of reasons. The GPU/Cell is a wonderfully powerful processor for searching and sorting and parallel algorithms of all sorts. As such many technical efforts are underway to utilize the GPU/Cell processor as a companion to the CPU. At some point, all of the proprietary-ness of GPU/Cell processor will become obsolete, and Intel is at a particular sweet spot since they are the commander of the smallest (fastest) physics at this point in time. In a few years the entire territorial madness that surrounds GPU/Cell processors may just be a bad memory. Hard to predict, but, my money is on AMD/ATI. http://lwn.net/Articles/260676/ Here's an interesting link. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=fosdem_08_bridgmannum=1 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Grant wrote: I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant revdep-rebuilt afterwards? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless hidden association problem
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:03:44 +0100
Paul Melvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Florian,
Mine will not associate with the hidden ap, my files are below,
please have a look to see if I have missed anything as I would like
to get this working
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
network={
scan_ssid=1
ssid=ng6
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
proto=WPA
pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP
psk=123456
priority=2
}
/etc/conf.d/net
config_eth0=( dhcp )
config_eth1=( dhcp )
#iwconfig eth1 essid ng6
modules=( wpa_supplicant )
wpa_supplicant_eth1=-Dwext
wpa_timeout_eth1=60
how can I stop the wpa (just use a kill?) so that I can reload the
settings and if I use the -dd option should I be able to find out
what is wrong?
thanks
paul
Hi!
At first, please don't top-post, e.g. write your answers below the
quotations. That makes it easier to follow threads.
Concerning your wpa_supplicant.conf: I would comment out any
unnecessary settings, for example proto, pairwise and group.
Wpa_supplicant can figure this out by itself. That lowers the risk of
doing any human errors.
Second, did you copy my general options which were not connected to a
specific network? I think the ap_scan-option is crucial but I'm not
sure. Just use them all as I do.
Concerning the way you can stop wpa_supplicant: If you just started it
manually from console, a simple killall wpa_supplicant should be
enough. If you started it by init-script (e.g. /etc/init.d/net.eth1
start) or automatically at system-start, then you stop it
with /etc/init.d/net.eth1 stop.
To start wpa_supplicant with much output, run:
wpa_supplicant -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -d
(or -dd if you don't see anything supsicious).
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[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On 2008-06-17, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17 Jun 2008, at 17:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: ... if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. Imagine that. What was requested was a comparison of ATI and nVidia. ;) -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I think my career at is ruined! visi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, Stroller wrote: On 17 Jun 2008, at 17:18, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: ... if you want to make a political statement: buy ATI if you want to use the card with almost no problems and good performance: buy nvidia. This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. because Intel does not produce amd chipsets. IMO Intel deserve our thanks for this for more than ATi or nVidia, and they deserve damnation for their monopolistic tactics, their artificially high prices, their copying of amd after bashing them for years. Did you know that amd worked closely with linux developers when they developed the amd64 plattform? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, RPM or DPKG: number of packaged software comparison
On 06/17/2008 08:20 PM, Edward Hades wrote: Maybe counting source packages would get better approximation? Or counting unique upstream project URL's. Counting the lines of source code would be most appropriate. cheers Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: Yes, ATI has released docu. Yes, everybody is working on the drivers. But the open ones only do 2d so far and the closed ones are horrible. I have had quite a few ATI cards (all radeon class) and have been using fglrx for almost as long as it has been out and have had very little problems. I have only had one Nvidia card though (which I gave up on a long time ago due to problems with the drivers). So everything's not peachy in Nvidia-land... All from my experience and point of view, of course. Regarding the open source drivers (of which I'm quite excited about): The open ones do 3D and have done so for quite a while (r2/3/400). R500 has recently been added (albeit alpha quality) and r600 is on it's way. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ati_r500_3dnum=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ati_r500_gamingnum=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NjUwNw For the inquisitive, documentation is here: http://developer.amd.com/DOCUMENTATION/GUIDES/Pages/default.aspx I plan to use an open driver (haven't decided between radeon and radeonhd) when r600 support has stabilised... Best regards / MfG Peter K -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Hemmann, Volker Armin volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. because Intel does not produce amd chipsets. IMO Intel deserve our thanks for this for more than ATi or nVidia, and they deserve damnation for their monopolistic tactics, their artificially high prices, their copying of amd after bashing them for years. First, I did say something good about Intel. Look at my second post under VLSI perspective. Intel is winning the pure physics battle and could easily put a gpGPU with a x86 (or compatible) chipset on a single substrate, and work closely with the open source community to do the right thing. The problem with Intel, is the founders have similar attitudes as the Son of Satan (aka Bill Gates). Intel only responds to the open source community when it gets it's A_ _ kicked in by AMD. (There is quite a lot of history here). Now that INTEL is the current champion of the physics wars, the corporate idiots that run Intel, will only marginally move to open source, until AMD heals up financially. This is historically recurring theme (fact). FAST FORWARD a few years. gpGPU is ubiquitous and everywhere easily implemented (or at least in my dreams). The average 3D video game on any platform uses less than 10% of the gpGPU/processor. It will not matter who has more patents in Stream/Cell/gpGPU court, because all hardware will exceed what the majority of users need or want (from a gaming or work perspective). The DNA researchers, spoofs that track minutia about the planet's inhabitants, etc, etc will care. But the average technoid making a living whilst playing video games that look very real, will only care about one thing. Who has been the nicest and friendliest to the opensource community? It's actually a dame shame, for me as an American, with Christian tendencies. Intel nor microsuck lead where I want to follow. Corporations elsewhere in the world attract me more (and you wonder why our great nation is hated by many in the world?). I always spend my money on systems where the corporate leaderships is the most appealing (never an easy decision and not recommend to others as it is painful). I spend my money on AMD/ATI. Like I said in the beginning, when we began this thread, All religious questions, imho Did you know that amd worked closely with linux developers when they developed the amd64 plattform? Now you are teasing me. I thought you recommended Nvidia? Oh, I just realized, you took my advise and chose the best (easiest) contemporary path. Good choice, as I cannot argue (effectively) against Nvidia. It's a principled thing, for me. cheers and seeya! hth, James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On Dienstag, 17. Juni 2008, James wrote: Hemmann, Volker Armin volker.armin.hemmann at tu-clausthal.de writes: This comparison seems to rather neglect Intel. because Intel does not produce amd chipsets. IMO Intel deserve our thanks for this for more than ATi or nVidia, and they deserve damnation for their monopolistic tactics, their artificially high prices, their copying of amd after bashing them for years. First, I did say something good about Intel. Look at my second post under VLSI perspective. Intel is winning the pure physics battle and could easily put a gpGPU with a x86 (or compatible) chipset on a single substrate, and work closely with the open source community to do the right thing. The problem with Intel, is the founders have similar attitudes as the Son of Satan (aka Bill Gates). Intel only responds to the open source community when it gets it's A_ _ kicked in by AMD. (There is quite a lot of history here). Now that INTEL is the current champion of the physics wars, the corporate idiots that run Intel, will only marginally move to open source, until AMD heals up financially. This is historically recurring theme (fact). FAST FORWARD a few years. gpGPU is ubiquitous and everywhere easily implemented (or at least in my dreams). The average 3D video game on any platform uses less than 10% of the gpGPU/processor. It will not matter who has more patents in Stream/Cell/gpGPU court, because all hardware will exceed what the majority of users need or want (from a gaming or work perspective). The DNA researchers, spoofs that track minutia about the planet's inhabitants, etc, etc will care. But the average technoid making a living whilst playing video games that look very real, will only care about one thing. Who has been the nicest and friendliest to the opensource community? It's actually a dame shame, for me as an American, with Christian tendencies. Intel nor microsuck lead where I want to follow. Corporations elsewhere in the world attract me more (and you wonder why our great nation is hated by many in the world?). I always spend my money on systems where the corporate leaderships is the most appealing (never an easy decision and not recommend to others as it is painful). I spend my money on AMD/ATI. Like I said in the beginning, when we began this thread, All religious questions, imho Did you know that amd worked closely with linux developers when they developed the amd64 plattform? Now you are teasing me. I thought you recommended Nvidia? Oh, I just realized, you took my advise and chose the best (easiest) contemporary path. Good choice, as I cannot argue (effectively) against Nvidia. It's a principled thing, for me. cpu from amd, graphics from nvidia. chipset from the one who has the least bugs ;) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Definitely nVidia. Over the past few years I've had a 3-4 of each (ATI and nVidia). But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source drivers coming. It's definitely different of the past few years. -- Nicolas Sebrecht -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
On 2008-06-17, Nicolas Sebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Definitely nVidia. Over the past few years I've had a 3-4 of each (ATI and nVidia). But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source drivers coming. I'll believe it when I see it. It's definitely different of the past few years. I doubt it. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Hold the MAYO pass at the COSMIC AWARENESS... visi.com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Ati or Nvida
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-06-17, Nicolas Sebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But now, it's not the same context. ATI specs are known and open source drivers coming. I'll believe it when I see it. It's definitely different of the past few years. I doubt it. Well, looks like there is good progress on the radeonhd and radeon drivers in Xorg [1] - so I think there is reason to be positive. I suspect that the significant changing fact is AMD now owning ATI... before then I'd be inclined to agree with you! Cheers Mark [1] see urls in pk's post. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida (emacs or vi (gnome or kde) ...))
Hi, I changed the subject slightly to make my point: Every person will have a different opinion, as the number of replies already shows. Everyone has had different experiences with either. Some people buy one card that never worked with the propriatary drivers, and therefore never buy from them again. Some people buy a card and have great performanc and no problems, ever. Personally, I've used a number of both cards, and I've been able to get 3D working and quite stable on all of them. My best advice would be to find someone who has the exact card you want to buy, and see how it works for them. Distribution doesn't matter, so long as it's linux. Then check kernel and Xorg versions. HTH! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I would much rather have men ask why I have no statue, than why I have one. -- Marcus Procius Cato -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Only needs to be emerged on front end machines Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? yes, any of those plugins will appear once the frontend has been restarted. Thanks, Mark No prob, HTH -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Yeah revdep-rebuild only comes up with transmission (which could have needed a rebuild before messing with glib), and transmission fails to build. The main problem is with gdm. It won't load with an unresolved symbol error (I think) and won't rebuild either. Would more specific errors be helpful here or should this be approached a different way? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Platoali wrote: Well, last night the graphic card of my laptop got broken. So I'm considering to replace it with a workstation for some graphic applications (Mainly blender and gimp.) I need 3d acceleration, and my poor laptop was rendering for hours to get my job done. So I decide to buy a workstation instead a laptop. I want to ask, which graphic cards are better supported in Linux. I know that ATI have freed or in the process of freeing their graphic cards driver. But I did not have any good memory from my previous experience with ATI. My previous card was ATI radeon 9600m and it never worked the way it had to until broken. I want to know, what is the current status of ATI drivers in Linux? Does the problems have been solved? Can they compete with Nvidia? And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? ATI's drivers have been buggy to the point that I avoid them 100% of the time when using linux. In multiple systems, using their drivers means that my system will hard hang 100% of the time when exiting xorg in any way. Such as logging out, killing xorg, rebooting, etc. Nvidias drivers are far more stable in linux, I would strongly suggest going that route. I do not know the specifics of those cards, sorry. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Only needs to be emerged on front end machines Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? yes, any of those plugins will appear once the frontend has been restarted. Thanks, Mark No prob, HTH -- Eric Martin Eric, Thanks for responding. I tried emerging it on one of my frontends. The ebuild told me to remove it since mythdvd is now included in mythtv itself. I'm running 0.21 if that's different than your setup. Anyway, this implies I should see mythdvd stuff in my frontend already but I don't see anything. Is there some configuration setup work that I have to do to make it visible? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mythdvd on Gentoo?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: I wonder if anyone can share how to use the mythdvd module on Gentoo? I've always emerged mythtv with the dvd flag but the mythdvd module isn't emerged. Can't help with that as I'm not in front of my box ATM. It's not a problem for me to emerge it separately but I'm wondering whether it needs to be emerged on only the backend or on every frontend or all machines? Only needs to be emerged on front end machines Once emerged does it just show up as another media option on the frontend? yes, any of those plugins will appear once the frontend has been restarted. Thanks, Mark No prob, HTH -- Eric Martin Eric, Thanks for responding. I tried emerging it on one of my frontends. The ebuild told me to remove it since mythdvd is now included in mythtv itself. I'm running 0.21 if that's different than your setup. Anyway, this implies I should see mythdvd stuff in my frontend already but I don't see anything. Is there some configuration setup work that I have to do to make it visible? Thanks, Mark Wow, I guess I'm due for an upgrade. While I tend to be bleeding edge on most stuff I'm very slow on mythtv upgrades (my wife hates it when it breaks). I'm running .20 and I know .21 is very different. Seeing as I have a different setup I'm stumped ATM. If nobody here can answer your question, consider posting to mythtv-users. -- Eric Martin Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Downgrading glib
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Grant wrote: I downgraded from glib-2.17.2 to glib-2.14.6 and had problems so I went back to 2.17.2. How can I make this downgrade successfully? - Grant revdep-rebuilt afterwards? Yeah revdep-rebuild only comes up with transmission (which could have needed a rebuild before messing with glib), and transmission fails to build. The main problem is with gdm. It won't load with an unresolved symbol error (I think) and won't rebuild either. Would more specific errors be helpful here or should this be approached a different way? you could grep for the old lib in /usr and rebuild everything which has its name somewhere. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] installing firefox 3 from tarball
Hi group, digg.com announces this is firefox download day, so I got the tarball and unwrapped in my home dir. According to this http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options I'm supposed to make a .mozconfig file first then, not sure, run ./mozconfig? It doesn't say. Doesn't work anyways nor does ./configure. Next page over, Build_and_Install, it says to run make, but naturally that fails since there's no Makefile or client.mk for that matter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/firefox $ make -f client.mk build make: client.mk: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `client.mk'. Stop. Anyone know how to configure this puppy? Maxim -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] installing firefox 3 from tarball
yeah, sync your portage tree, then emerge it On Jun 17, 2008, at 11:30 PM, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, digg.com announces this is firefox download day, so I got the tarball and unwrapped in my home dir. According to this http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Configuring_Build_Options I'm supposed to make a .mozconfig file first then, not sure, run ./ mozconfig? It doesn't say. Doesn't work anyways nor does ./configure. Next page over, Build_and_Install, it says to run make, but naturally that fails since there's no Makefile or client.mk for that matter. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/firefox $ make -f client.mk build make: client.mk: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `client.mk'. Stop. Anyone know how to configure this puppy? Maxim -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
