Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:45:58PM +0100, Matthias Fechner wrote: Hi Dirk, Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: Kernel w/o CONFIG_LBD? thanks a lot! Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. -- Shaochun Wang scw...@ios.ac.cn Jabber: fung...@jabber.org
[gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives
I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc? I don't think so... it depends on what drive it is and how it is partitioned... if there's just one partition then it should be as simple as formatting the new copy and cp -a /olddrive /newdrive If it's your boot drive and has boot/root/home/and so on partitions then you'll need to pay attention to the partition numbers as they very well may be different when you partition the new disk. Be sure to edit the grub config fstab to make sure it's all pointing to the right place. An alternative in that case would be to use dd to clone the old drive onto the new one, then use something like parted (gparted/qtparted for GUI) to resize the partitions to fit the new disk, assuming the filesystems in use allow for such a thing. The disadvantage to this is you are closing fragmentation and everything else, and if the new drive is a lot bigger than the old, you may not have enough inodes in your fileystem. Whenever I do that, I boot from a live CD and copy the drives as above, then plug the new drive into its official cable, boot from live CD again and make sure the partition numbers are right, install grub (if boot drive), reboot and everything is done. If anything went horribly wrong, you've always got the original drive that you can go back to and try again. Good luck :) Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives
On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 08:01 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc? Hmmm, a bit of an abstract description (what is meant by data?) of the issue with a broad question, but here goes... * If you plan on overwriting the old drive, make a backup. * Don't overwrite /etc but keep a copy of it around (e.g. /root/old_etc) * Keep a copy of your old world file, /etc/portage, etc. so you know what's installed. * If you're keeping both drives don't forget to update your grub/lilo config. * You might want to re-label your old partitions (if they're labeled) to avoid confusion. * Be careful of changes of uid/gids in system accounts with the new install. When creating new users you might want to be sure their uids/gids match. * Again, a backup is your friend. HTH, -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives
Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc? - Grant You should take a look at this one: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Move_Gentoo_Installation_to_new_hard_disk : Uwe -- Uwe keksvernichter@@gmail.com Key: 93BF09A2 @ pool.sks-keyservers.net 0x93BF09A2.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size
Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 14:03:04 schrieb Shaochun Wang: Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. Why not is he not allowed to run a 64bit kernel? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size
On Freitag 19 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 14:03:04 schrieb Shaochun Wang: Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. Why not is he not allowed to run a 64bit kernel? Bye... Dirk the option is not available with 64bits - maybe not needed.
[gentoo-user] video driver discovery
Hello, I have a this video card: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series I have this entry in make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa ati-drivers is not installed. What video driver is the gentoo system running on? How can I verify which driver(version) it is using? ...I do not admin this system often, so I probable installed it in the middle of the the night(in a coma, perchance)... James
Re: [gentoo-user] video driver discovery
James schrieb: Hello, I have a this video card: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series I have this entry in make.conf: VIDEO_CARDS=radeon vesa ati-drivers is not installed. What video driver is the gentoo system running on? How can I verify which driver(version) it is using? ...I do not admin this system often, so I probable installed it in the middle of the the night(in a coma, perchance)... James Take this faq as a starting point http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating hard drives
Uwe wrote: Grant wrote: I'm about to switch from one SATA hard drive to another and I'm planning on going through the normal installation process except for copying over the data on each partition of my old drive to the corresponding partition on my new drive. Is there anything to watch out for? Pitfalls to avoid, etc? - Grant You should take a look at this one: http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Move_Gentoo_Installation_to_new_hard_disk : Uwe Why does that guide say to edit mtab? I thought the system kept up with mtab itself and we are not supposed to edit that? Something change? Dale :-) :-)
must not (was Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size)
Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 19:24:12 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Freitag 19 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 14:03:04 schrieb Shaochun Wang: Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. Why not is he not allowed to run a 64bit kernel? the option is not available with 64bits - maybe not needed. Yes I know. Just wanted to clarify wether there's a misunderstanding about must not, which means darf nicht in german or is not allowed to. Seems like Shaochun is not a native english speaker and seems to make the same mistake I also did for a long time. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fragmentation of my drives. Curious mostly
On Tuesday 16 December 2008, Miguel Ramos wrote: Another argument in favour of cp in Linux: holes in sparse files are kept correctly, whereas using tar they are not. It is curious that this is very OS dependent. In FreeBSD, with cp, holes always go away, using tar, or better dump/restore is a way to keep all file attributes. In Linux, cp -a seems to be better for archives than tar, because it preserves these properties better, even across devices. Hmm..., with tar, -p will preserve permissions and -S will handle sparce files efficiently. -W will additionally verify that that data was archived without corruption. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice
On Wednesday 17 December 2008, kashani wrote: Momesso Andrea wrote: So there is no way if I want to keep the databases runnung? If your database isn't terribly busy I'd setup a second Mysql instance on the same machines and make it a slave of your primary. Then when it's time to backup you can stop the slave and make a backup without disturbing the master instance. Aha! Never done this. How would you go about it? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: must not (was Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size)
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:11 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 19:24:12 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: On Freitag 19 Dezember 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 14:03:04 schrieb Shaochun Wang: Your kernel must not be 64bits, I think. Why not is he not allowed to run a 64bit kernel? the option is not available with 64bits - maybe not needed. Yes I know. Just wanted to clarify wether there's a misunderstanding about must not, which means darf nicht in german or is not allowed to. Seems like Shaochun is not a native english speaker and seems to make the same mistake I also did for a long time. Yes, in English must can also mean that you infer or presume something. So, instead of your kernel must not be 64bits, maybe it would have been clearer to say I suspect you are not using a 64-bit kernel; if you were, it would not have this problem. :) Paul
Re: must not (was Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size)
Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 21:53:47 schrieb Paul Hartman: Yes, in English must can also mean that you infer or presume something. Ah, yes. I remember :-) So, instead of your kernel must not be 64bits, maybe it would have been clearer to say I suspect you are not using a 64-bit kernel; if you were, it would not have this problem. :) So can your kernel must not... be understood as I suspect your kernel is not...? Wasn't aware of this... Thanks for clarifying. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Best website backup practice
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 17 December 2008, kashani wrote: Momesso Andrea wrote: So there is no way if I want to keep the databases runnung? If your database isn't terribly busy I'd setup a second Mysql instance on the same machines and make it a slave of your primary. Then when it's time to backup you can stop the slave and make a backup without disturbing the master instance. Aha! Never done this. How would you go about it? To be honest I've never attempted it. Most of my recent installations have been large enough where having an actual backup server was a requirement. However Gentoo does include the /etc/init.d/mysqlmanager startup script. You'd need to muddle through it and figure out how to separate the pid files, suffixes, conf file enough to make it work. When finished you'd want you slave instance running only on localhost and say port 4306. Then you tell it your master is localhost port 3306. Mysql likes to assume localhost is always a socket so you might want to add an entry into /etc/hosts to trick it into connecting via tcp, but I'm not sure if it matters. something like 127.0.0.1 localhost mastermysql.yourdomain.com Additionally be careful with the conf setting in your Mysql installation. I think the standard Gentoo conf uses 64MB of RAM. If you've modified your production copy make sure you keep the slave copy small. You might need to raise the keybuffer in your slave if you have large indexes. I suspect you can ignore most of this in a web application environment, but it's good stuff to keep in mind later on. I'm moving this week and with the holidays I've got no time to try it, but if you have question after the first I'd be happy to help you sort it out. kashani
Re: must not (was Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size)
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Freitag, 19. Dezember 2008 21:53:47 schrieb Paul Hartman: Yes, in English must can also mean that you infer or presume something. Ah, yes. I remember :-) So, instead of your kernel must not be 64bits, maybe it would have been clearer to say I suspect you are not using a 64-bit kernel; if you were, it would not have this problem. :) So can your kernel must not... be understood as I suspect your kernel is not...? Wasn't aware of this... Thanks for clarifying. Yes, exactly. It is confusing, especially if you are used to languages that have proper rules. I think the only rule in English is there are no rules in English :) :) Here are English dictionary definitions for must when used as a verb. I think in this case numbers 4 or 7 could apply. 1 a: be commanded or requested to you must stop b: be urged to : ought by all means to you must read that book 2: be compelled by physical necessity to one must eat to live : be required by immediate or future need or purpose to we must hurry to catch the bus 3 a: be obliged to : be compelled by social considerations to I must say you're looking well b: be required by law, custom, or moral conscience to we must obey the rules c: be determined to if you must go at least wait for me d: be unreasonably or perversely compelled to why must you argue 4: be logically inferred or supposed to it must be time 5: be compelled by fate or by natural law to what must be will be 6: was or were presumably certain to : was or were bound to if he did it she must have known 7dialect : may , shall —used chiefly in questions
Re: must not (was Re: [gentoo-user] Raid reports wrong size)
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:13:11 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: So, instead of your kernel must not be 64bits, maybe it would have been clearer to say I suspect you are not using a 64-bit kernel; if you were, it would not have this problem. :) So can your kernel must not... be understood as I suspect your kernel is not...? Wasn't aware of this... Thanks for clarifying. It's more like I am assuming your kernel is not. Either way, it's a highly ambiguous sentence :( -- Neil Bothwick I have seen things you lusers would not believe. I've seen Sun monitors on fire off the side of the multimedia lab. I've seen NTU lights glitter in the dark near the Mail Gate. All these things will be lost in time, like the root partition last week. Time to die. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28058-r1 USE dvdnav
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 02:16:09AM +, Penguin Lover Stroller squawked: Anyone see what I'm doing wrong here, please? Yes. See below. I can't seem to get mplayer to accept the dvdnav USE flag, which is always (-bracketed) out when I pretend to emerge it: snip Yet the ebuild seems to say: dvdnav? ( =media-libs/libdvdnav-4.1.3 =media-libs/libdvdread-4.1.3 ) ... if use dvdnav; then myconf=${myconf} --with-dvdread-config=/usr/bin/dvdread-config \ --with-dvdnav-config=/usr/bin/dvdnav-config \ --disable-dvdread-internal elif ! use dvd ! use dvdread; then myconf=${myconf} --disable-dvdnav --disable-dvdread use a52 || myconf=${myconf} --disable-liba52 \ I think I have emerged the appropriate versions of libdvdnav libdvdread: $ eix -I -c libdvd [I] media-libs/libdvdcss (1.2.9-r1(1.2)@10/10/08): A portable abstraction library for DVD decryption [I] media-libs/libdvdnav (4@12/20/08): Library for DVD navigation tools [I] media-libs/libdvdplay (1@07/07/07): A simple library designed for DVD-menu navigation [I] media-libs/libdvdread (4.1.3...@12/19/08): Library for DVD navigation tools Found 4 matches. $ This is a mostly x86 system, with only a handful of packages manually keyworded or unmasked. libdvdnav-4.1.3 is keyworded ~x86, while mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28058-r1 is keyworded x86. The USE cannot be satisfied. See /usr/portage/profiles/base/package.use.mask, somewhere near the bottom, there is a bit about dvdnav being masked. I think you can try use unmasking the flag: add a line to /etc/portage/package.use.mask media-video/mplayer -dvdnav should do the trick. W -- Getting the midterms back tomorrow is going to be a slaughterhouse. No. The exam was the slaughterhouse. Then tomorrow is just the meat packing. ~DeathMech, Some Student. P-town PHY 205 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 743 days, 2:19
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28058-r1 USE dvdnav
On 12/20/08, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: I think you can try use unmasking the flag: add a line to /etc/portage/package.use.mask It's profiles related stuff, so I think /etc/portage/profiles/package.use.mask will be the right place. At least if one trusts portage's man page. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer-1.0_rc2_p28058-r1 USE dvdnav
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:34:56AM +0200, Penguin Lover Arttu V. squawked: On 12/20/08, Willie Wong ww...@princeton.edu wrote: I think you can try use unmasking the flag: add a line to /etc/portage/package.use.mask It's profiles related stuff, so I think /etc/portage/profiles/package.use.mask will be the right place. At least if one trusts portage's man page. Ah yes, you are absolutely right. My mistake there. Three words beginning with 'p' and I left one out. Thank you for the correction. W -- All of my friends and I are crazy. That's the only thing that keeps us sane. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 743 days, 5:04
[gentoo-user] depclean wants to wipe out KDE3
emerge -av --depclean: kde-base/kopete selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 kde-base/kget selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 kde-base/kmenuedit selected: 3.5.10 protected: none omitted: 4.1.3 The list goes on. All those packages are in my world file. This only started happening after installing KDE 4.1.3. Another nice effect of not putting KDE4 in new portage trees but rather mixing them with KDE3? What can I do?