[gentoo-user] {OT} AMD Barcelona vs. Intel Harpertown (also 10k vs 15k RPM)
I'm trying to decide between an AMD Barcelona or an Intel Harpertown quad-core CPU for a web/database server. The Intel would have a 5% lower clock speed. I've read that Harpertown outperforms Barcelona (by 20%?), but that the quad-core implementation isn't as good on the Harpertown. It's surprisingly difficult to get comparative benchmarks on these at similar clock speeds. Does anyone know which of these should perform better in a web/database server? I support AMD on my non-critical systems, but I need performance for this server. I'm also trying to decide between a 2.5 10k HD vs. a 3.5 15k HD. I've read that the 15k yields about a 20% I/O performance boost so I think I'll go for it. I won't be using RAID at all. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} AMD Barcelona vs. Intel Harpertown (also 10k vs 15k RPM)
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 07:46 -0700, Grant wrote: I'm trying to decide between an AMD Barcelona or an Intel Harpertown quad-core CPU for a web/database server. The Intel would have a 5% lower clock speed. I've read that Harpertown outperforms Barcelona (by 20%?), but that the quad-core implementation isn't as good on the Harpertown. It's surprisingly difficult to get comparative benchmarks on these at similar clock speeds. Does anyone know which of these should perform better in a web/database server? I support AMD on my non-critical systems, but I need performance for this server. I'm also trying to decide between a 2.5 10k HD vs. a 3.5 15k HD. I've read that the 15k yields about a 20% I/O performance boost so I think I'll go for it. I won't be using RAID at all. - Grant I won't be using RAID at all. If uptime is of no concern to you, then why even bother about speed?
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: I'm wondering about the lock (notice the old date). Maybe move it to somewhere safe and try OO again. I move '.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock' to '.qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock.dec30-2008' Again it fails with this message: terminate called after throwing an instance of 'com::sun::star::uno::RuntimeException' Also are you building OO from source or running the binary version? both 3.0 and 3.1.0 are compiled from source. Currently it's app-office/openoffice-3.1.0 Any other ideas? James
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: Also are you building OO from source or running the binary version? Well, it's definately a permission problem, because as root I can run OO flawlessly..? Here are the parent dir permissions: ls -l /usr/qt/3/etc/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 settings Here are the content permissions: ls -al /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Dec 30 2008 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:54 .keep_x11-libs_qt-3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:48 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3801 Jul 19 14:50 qt_plugins_3.3rc Can somebody check these(again) for me? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
James wrote: Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: Also are you building OO from source or running the binary version? Well, it's definately a permission problem, because as root I can run OO flawlessly..? Here are the parent dir permissions: ls -l /usr/qt/3/etc/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 settings Here are the content permissions: ls -al /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Dec 30 2008 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:54 .keep_x11-libs_qt-3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:48 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3801 Jul 19 14:50 qt_plugins_3.3rc Can somebody check these(again) for me? James Sure: r...@smoker / # ls -al /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/ total 12 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 288 Jun 27 16:56 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Dec 9 2008 .. -rw--- 1 root root0 Apr 1 07:53 .kconfigrc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jun 27 13:26 .keep_x11-libs_qt-3 -rw--- 1 root root0 Dec 29 2008 .moto4linrc.lock -rw--- 1 root root0 Dec 9 2008 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302 Apr 1 07:53 kconfigrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 219 Jan 16 2009 moto4linrc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3211 Jun 27 16:56 qt_plugins_3.3rc r...@smoker / # Up one directory: r...@smoker / # ls -al /usr/qt/3/etc/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Dec 9 2008 . drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 280 Jun 27 13:27 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 288 Jun 27 16:56 settings r...@smoker / # That help? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
090719 James wrote: Roy Wright roy at wright.org writes: Also are you building OO from source or running the binary version? Well, it's definately a permission problem, because as root I can run OO flawlessly. Here are the parent dir permissions: ls -l /usr/qt/3/etc/ total 0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 settings Here are the content permissions: ls -al /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/ total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 160 Jul 19 14:54 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 Dec 30 2008 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:54 .keep_x11-libs_qt-3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Jul 19 14:48 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3801 Jul 19 14:50 qt_plugins_3.3rc Can somebody check these(again) for me? root:510 etc pwd /usr/qt/3/etc root:511 etc ls -la total 0 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-27 22:30 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 328 2009-01-10 16:44 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 280 2009-07-02 03:41 settings root:512 etc cd settings root:513 settings ls -la total 12 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 280 2009-07-02 03:41 . drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 72 2007-10-27 22:30 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 533 2007-12-05 00:56 kconfigrc -rw--- 1 root root0 2007-11-07 08:36 .kconfigrc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 2009-01-10 16:44 .keep_x11-libs_qt-3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2689 2009-07-02 03:41 qt_plugins_3.3rc -rw--- 1 root root0 2007-10-28 23:28 .qt_plugins_3.3rc.lock -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1694 2007-11-04 07:44 qtrc -rw--- 1 root root0 2007-10-29 16:39 .qtrc.lock NB I have 2 more files than you + their locks. This is OO 3.1.0 (compiled from source) + 'qt-3.3.8b-r1'. HTH -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
On 07/19/2009 04:16 PM, James wrote: Roy Wrightroyat wright.org writes: Also are you building OO from source or running the binary version? Well, it's definately a permission problem, because as root I can run OO flawlessly..? There is also another possibility: root and you are just different users, and the problem may lie in your ~/.oo3/ directory. To test this idea just rename ~/.oo3 to something else and let OO make a new one. If that test fails then you start looking at permissions. I always keep a spare user account named 'tester' for the same purpose, just in case the problem is something else in my home directory that may not be obvious.
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: There is also another possibility: root and you are just different users, and the problem may lie in your ~/.oo3/ directory. To test this idea just rename ~/.oo3 to something else and let OO make a new one. If that test fails then you start looking at permissions. Nope same exact error, so it not related to my '.ooo3' dir I have three 'o' in my dir name James
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: That help? Dale Well the files we have in common have the same permisions/ownership but you have a few more than me.. I rebuilt 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r1' oneshot, but it did not help fix the problem I'm stumped James
[gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
Philip Webb purslow at ca.inter.net writes: NB I have 2 more files than you + their locks. This is OO 3.1.0 (compiled from source) + 'qt-3.3.8b-r1'. Yes, I noticed the 2 extra files. I have the same versions of OO and qt as you. It works for root, but not james. It all worked fine until I tried a word file a yesterday (.doc) Abiword works on all my .doc files and I can use OO as root on them too, so it's something related to my account... The new .0003 dir that created as another poster suggested, did not to help, and indeed it is identical to the previous one stumped James
[gentoo-user] mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
Hi,
I'm back trying to see if I can get these old Asus Pundit-R
machines to do anything at all with the newer kernel and the ATI Open
Source drivers. I've got fluxbox emerged and I'm trying to start
xluxbox using the xstart .xinitrc method. (Hope that's right?)
Anyway, when I run startx I see a bit of graphics come up, sort of
a big X11 graphical X and then everything dies back to the console and
I'm left with messages about not finding MTRR stuff. The best version
of that I can find is in dmesg output below. There's nothing about
that in the Xorg log file although it is complaining about DRM stuff.
Maybe the MTRR stuff doesn't matter and it's really something else?
I've not been successful getting any of these old machines running
under the newer xorg-servers. After this failure I still don't see the
radeon driver loaded.
All help appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark
myth12 mythtv # cat .xinitrc
# .xinitrc
#exec startfluxbox
exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
#exec /usr/bin/evilwm
#exec /usr/bin/mythfrontend
myth12 mythtv #
myth12 mythtv # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
Current Operating System: Linux myth12 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #4 PREEMPT Fri
Jun 26 09:51:45 PDT 2009 i686
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
myth12 mythtv #
myth12 linux # dmesg | tail -n 5
[ 17.486289] usb 1-0:1.0: uevent
[ 19.612246] eth0: setting full-duplex.
[ 30.350021] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[ 433.541492] pci :01:05.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKA] - GSI 11
(level, low) - IRQ 11
[ 435.609192] mtrr: no MTRR for e800,400 found
myth12 linux # cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep MTRR
CONFIG_MTRR=y
CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER=y
CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER_ENABLE_DEFAULT=0
CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER_SPARE_REG_NR_DEFAULT=1
myth12 linux #
myth12 linux # uname -a
Linux myth12 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #4 PREEMPT Fri Jun 26 09:51:45 PDT 2009
i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
myth12 linux #
myth12 linux # emerge -pv xorg-server
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6 USE=hal ipv6 nptl sdl
xorg -3dfx -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal -tslib INPUT_DEVICES=evdev
-acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro -elo2300
-elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -keyboard -magellan
-microtouch -mouse -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa
-synaptics -tek4957 -tslib -ur98 -virtualbox -vmmouse -void -wacom
VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev radeon vesa -apm -ark -ast -chips -cirrus -dummy
-epson -fglrx -geode -glint -i128 -i740 (-impact) -imstt -intel
-mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) -nv -nvidia -r128 -radeonhd
-rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2)
(-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx
-tga -trident -tseng -v4l -vermilion -via -virtualbox -vmware -voodoo
-xgi 0 kB
Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
myth12 linux # eix -I ati
[I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati
Available versions: 6.6.3 6.8.0-r1 ~6.9.0 ~6.10.0 ~6.11.0
6.12.1-r1 ~6.12.2 {debug}
Installed versions: 6.12.1-r1(12:59:25 06/27/09)(-debug)
Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
Description: ATI video driver
myth12 linux #
myth12 mythtv # cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section Module
Loaddbe # Double buffer extension
SubSection extmod
Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
# This loads the GLX module
#Load glx
# This loads the DRI module
#Load dri
EndSection
Section Files
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection
Section ServerFlags
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard1
Driver kbd
Option AutoRepeat 500 30
Option XkbRules xorg
Option XkbModel pc101
Option XkbLayout us
EndSection
Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse1
Driver mouse
Option ProtocolAuto # Auto detect
Option Device /dev/input/mice
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection
Section Monitor
Identifier My Monitor
HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0
VertRefresh 50-90
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier Standard VGA
VendorName Unknown
BoardName Unknown
Driver vga
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier ** ATI Radeon (generic) [radeon]
Driver radeon
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier Screen 1
Device ** ATI Radeon (generic) [radeon]
Monitor My Monitor
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection Display
Depth 8
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection Display
Depth 16
Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480
ViewPort
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openoffice fails on qt_plugins_3.3rc
James wrote: Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: That help? Dale Well the files we have in common have the same permisions/ownership but you have a few more than me.. I rebuilt 'x11-libs/qt-3.3.8b-r1' oneshot, but it did not help fix the problem I'm stumped James Well, what exactly creates these files? r...@smoker / # equery belongs /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/qt_plugins_3.3rc [ Searching for file(s) /usr/qt/3/etc/settings/qt_plugins_3.3rc in *... ] r...@smoker / # According to equery, they don't belong to a package. Does qt create those when first being used? If so, maybe rename it then let qt recreate the file? I'm not sure where that file comes from but it is in a etc/ directory so maybe it is corrupt or something. I dunno. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
On Montag 20 Juli 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER_ENABLE_DEFAULT=0 with that option you have to turn it on on the kernel command line. Something you didn't.
Re: [gentoo-user] mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
I didn't. Am I better off to change the default to something else? (1?) Or how do I turn it on with the kernel? I'll go look for some docs. Thanks! - Mark On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Montag 20 Juli 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: CONFIG_MTRR_SANITIZER_ENABLE_DEFAULT=0 with that option you have to turn it on on the kernel command line. Something you didn't.
[gentoo-user] Re: mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP myth12 mythtv # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE Current Operating System: Linux myth12 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #4 PREEMPT Fri Jun 26 09:51:45 PDT 2009 i686 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM myth12 mythtv # myth12 linux # dmesg | tail -n 5 [ 17.486289] usb 1-0:1.0: uevent [ 19.612246] eth0: setting full-duplex. [ 30.350021] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 433.541492] pci :01:05.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKA] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11 [ 435.609192] mtrr: no MTRR for e800,400 found myth12 linux # cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 (0MB), size= 256MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x00c00 ( 192MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable myth12 linux # Seems that maybe this machine really doesn't have an MTRR at e800. Are MTRR's necessary? This machine ran a much older kernel - circa 2.6.19 - until I tried to upgrade the xorg server. Possibly I was never using MTRR and having it turned on at all is a mistake? Thanks, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP myth12 mythtv # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE Current Operating System: Linux myth12 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #4 PREEMPT Fri Jun 26 09:51:45 PDT 2009 i686 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM myth12 mythtv # myth12 linux # dmesg | tail -n 5 [ 17.486289] usb 1-0:1.0: uevent [ 19.612246] eth0: setting full-duplex. [ 30.350021] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 433.541492] pci :01:05.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKA] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11 [ 435.609192] mtrr: no MTRR for e800,400 found myth12 linux # cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 ( 0MB), size= 256MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x00c00 ( 192MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable myth12 linux # Seems that maybe this machine really doesn't have an MTRR at e800. Are MTRR's necessary? This machine ran a much older kernel - circa 2.6.19 - until I tried to upgrade the xorg server. Possibly I was never using MTRR and having it turned on at all is a mistake? Thanks, Mark OK, I have it at least partially working. For some reason it was unhappy (VERY) with my .xinitrc file left over from the old days. Go figure?!?! I erased the .xinitrc file and just type startx and it work. Three terminals on the screen. xclock. Everything looks normal. I am still getting messages about the MTRR but it doesn't stop X from coming up. I get back on this tomorrow and see if I can get fluxbox running. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mtrr: no MTRR for e8000000,4000000 found
On Montag 20 Juli 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP myth12 mythtv # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE Current Operating System: Linux myth12 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #4 PREEMPT Fri Jun 26 09:51:45 PDT 2009 i686 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM myth12 mythtv # myth12 linux # dmesg | tail -n 5 [ 17.486289] usb 1-0:1.0: uevent [ 19.612246] eth0: setting full-duplex. [ 30.350021] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [ 433.541492] pci :01:05.0: PCI INT A - Link[LNKA] - GSI 11 (level, low) - IRQ 11 [ 435.609192] mtrr: no MTRR for e800,400 found myth12 linux # cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 (0MB), size= 256MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x00c00 ( 192MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable myth12 linux # Seems that maybe this machine really doesn't have an MTRR at e800. Are MTRR's necessary? This machine ran a much older kernel - circa 2.6.19 - until I tried to upgrade the xorg server. Possibly I was never using MTRR and having it turned on at all is a mistake? Thanks, Mark OK, I have it at least partially working. For some reason it was unhappy (VERY) with my .xinitrc file left over from the old days. Go figure?!?! I erased the .xinitrc file and just type startx and it work. Three terminals on the screen. xclock. Everything looks normal. I am still getting messages about the MTRR but it doesn't stop X from coming up. I get back on this tomorrow and see if I can get fluxbox running. Thanks, Mark yes, you 'need' mtrr. Not having working mtrr is like driving a car while constantly stepping on the brakes and gas at the same time. There is lots of stuff about that in Documentation/ - use grep to find it.
