[gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. Oh dear, Gentoo ! Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On 15 Sep, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. The above URL doesn't help either, so any help to 'survive' is appreciated. Oh dear, Gentoo ! Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:38:41 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
The above URL doesn't help either,
so any help to 'survive' is appreciated.
Did you read the elog message when you emerged the new version?
libxcb-xlib.so is no longer shipped by ${PN} but was kept on your system
While your system will still work, emerging new packages or updates
will likely fail. You can fix broken libtool .la files by running :
${FILESDIR}/xcb-rebuilder.sh
To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read :
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml
--
Neil Bothwick
Ethernet (n): something used to catch the etherbunny
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:38:41 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. The above URL doesn't help either, so any help to 'survive' is appreciated. Install links|links2|elinks|lynx and view the web page from the console These text browsers are insanely useful things ;-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:38:41 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
The above URL doesn't help either,
so any help to 'survive' is appreciated.
Did you read the elog message when you emerged the new version?
Yes, I did ... but
libxcb-xlib.so is no longer shipped by ${PN} but was kept on your system
While your system will still work, emerging new packages or updates
will likely fail. You can fix broken libtool .la files by running :
${FILESDIR}/xcb-rebuilder.sh
This doesn't help !
To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read :
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml
Since my browser got broken, too, this took some time.
And following that advice takes even much more time, since
I have to rebuild half of my system.
Luckily it has 4 cores,
Helmut.
--
Helmut Jarausch
Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:49:39 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml Since my browser got broken, too, this took some time. And following that advice takes even much more time, since I have to rebuild half of my system. Luckily it has 4 cores, Helmut. The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) $ sudo /var/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh Password: * Fixing broken libtool archives (.la) * Scanning for libraries requiring libxcb-xlib.so... * No broken libraries detected I wonder what I did different? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) I had some breakage, but nothing significant. I only realised anything was wrong because emerge @preserved-rebuild failed on most packages, so I then RTFMed, ran the commands from that web page and all was fine. Konqueror kept working fine, so I didn't need to remember how to work any of the lynx variants. -- Neil Bothwick I am NOT Paranoid! And why are you always watching me?? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) I had some breakage, but nothing significant. I only realised anything was wrong because emerge @preserved-rebuild failed on most packages, so I then RTFMed, ran the commands from that web page and all was fine. Konqueror kept working fine, so I didn't need to remember how to work any of the lynx variants. You must be very lucky to have such a fast machine. I'm following the recipe on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml which results in emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xcb-proto x11-libs/libxcb emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xproto x11-proto/xextproto x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext /usr/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh emerge -1 -j4 \ $(for i in x11-proto/ x11-libs/libxcb x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext \ x11-libs/libX x11-libs/xcb-util x11-libs/cairo \ x11-libs/pango x11-libs/gtk+ gnome-base/libgnomeui \ x11-libs/qt-gui; do \ qlist -IC $i; \ done) -v revdep-rebuild -L libxcb-xlib.so.0 -- -j4 --ask --keep-going This requires to rebuild 182 packages and proably several hours on a modern PC (Phenom II 4 cores) (this includes some not so tiny packages like gcc (2 slots) several gnome and kde libraries) (Sometimes, Gentoo is an expensive hobby) Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:49:39 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml Since my browser got broken, too, this took some time. And following that advice takes even much more time, since I have to rebuild half of my system. Luckily it has 4 cores, Helmut. The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) $ sudo /var/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh Password: * Fixing broken libtool archives (.la) * Scanning for libraries requiring libxcb-xlib.so... * No broken libraries detected I wonder what I did different? Same here, no breakage on my laptop or desktop. I have used dev-util/lafilefixer few time with --justfixit option few times,could that be the reason for smooth upgrade?
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:51, Jorma Airola juggernaut...@gmail.com wrote: Same here, no breakage on my laptop or desktop. I have used dev-util/lafilefixer few time with --justfixit option few times,could that be the reason for smooth upgrade? Did you remove the lib libxcb-xlib.so or is it still there? Ward
[gentoo-user] Re: *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On 09/15/2009 10:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. Oh dear, Gentoo ! It temporarily broke my system too, but nothing dramatic: emerge -1 -j4 \ $(for i in x11-proto/ x11-libs/libxcb x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext \ x11-libs/libX x11-libs/xcb-util x11-libs/cairo \ x11-libs/pango x11-libs/gtk+ gnome-base/libgnomeui \ x11-libs/qt-gui; do \ qlist -IC $i; \ done) -v resulted in a build failure (a package complained about missing symbols in libxcb-xlib.so during the link step). According to the upgrade guide, that was not supposed to happen. The fix was easy though; I just ran revdep-rebuild at this point (not many packages needed a rebuild, I guess having --as-needed in my LDFLAGS saved the day) and then I repeated the command, finally deleted /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so* and everything was fine. One other slight breakage was revdep-rebuild wanting to rebuilt the same package over and over again. If revdep-rebuild wants to repeatedly rebuild a package, you have to unmerge that package first and then re-run revdep-rebuild; only then will you see the final packages that need to be rebuild (in my case, kde-base/systemsettings). Of course, rebooting the machine before finishing all of this is not a good idea.
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Dienstag 15 September 2009, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) I had some breakage, but nothing significant. I only realised anything was wrong because emerge @preserved-rebuild failed on most packages, so I then RTFMed, ran the commands from that web page and all was fine. Konqueror kept working fine, so I didn't need to remember how to work any of the lynx variants. You must be very lucky to have such a fast machine. I'm following the recipe on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml which results in emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xcb-proto x11-libs/libxcb emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xproto x11-proto/xextproto x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext /usr/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh emerge -1 -j4 \ $(for i in x11-proto/ x11-libs/libxcb x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext \ x11-libs/libX x11-libs/xcb-util x11-libs/cairo \ x11-libs/pango x11-libs/gtk+ gnome-base/libgnomeui \ x11-libs/qt-gui; do \ qlist -IC $i; \ done) -v revdep-rebuild -L libxcb-xlib.so.0 -- -j4 --ask --keep-going This requires to rebuild 182 packages and proably several hours on a modern PC (Phenom II 4 cores) (this includes some not so tiny packages like gcc (2 slots) several gnome and kde libraries) (Sometimes, Gentoo is an expensive hobby) Helmut. -j4? if you want to give makeopts - that belongs into /etc/make.conf. I didn't even know that portage forwards those options
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
I didn't have any big problem neither. After uprading to libxcb-1.4 a lot of packages failed to compile. I searched for warning messages with elogv, followed the upgrade guide and now all is fine. regards, Boris On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:31, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 09/15/2009 10:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. Oh dear, Gentoo ! It temporarily broke my system too, but nothing dramatic: emerge -1 -j4 \ $(for i in x11-proto/ x11-libs/libxcb x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext \ x11-libs/libX x11-libs/xcb-util x11-libs/cairo \ x11-libs/pango x11-libs/gtk+ gnome-base/libgnomeui \ x11-libs/qt-gui; do \ qlist -IC $i; \ done) -v resulted in a build failure (a package complained about missing symbols in libxcb-xlib.so during the link step). According to the upgrade guide, that was not supposed to happen. The fix was easy though; I just ran revdep-rebuild at this point (not many packages needed a rebuild, I guess having --as-needed in my LDFLAGS saved the day) and then I repeated the command, finally deleted /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so* and everything was fine. One other slight breakage was revdep-rebuild wanting to rebuilt the same package over and over again. If revdep-rebuild wants to repeatedly rebuild a package, you have to unmerge that package first and then re-run revdep-rebuild; only then will you see the final packages that need to be rebuild (in my case, kde-base/systemsettings). Of course, rebooting the machine before finishing all of this is not a good idea. -- 42
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 11:01:11 Ward Poelmans wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:51, Jorma Airola juggernaut...@gmail.com wrote: Same here, no breakage on my laptop or desktop. I have used dev-util/lafilefixer few time with --justfixit option few times,could that be the reason for smooth upgrade? Did you remove the lib libxcb-xlib.so or is it still there? I don't have any file named libxcb-xlib* anywhere And I don't remember removing such a file or ever reading an elog related to xcb. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Dienstag 15 September 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/15/2009 10:35 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, as I have just bitten by it, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285004 before upgrading to x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 (1.4.-r1) since this breaks any X11-application (including your browser to look at the URL above) Such an update should be DOUBLY MASKED !!! And the messages coming with libxcb just don't help. revdep-rebuild doesn't help either. And one cannot remerge the broken packages either, since there configure bails out. Oh dear, Gentoo ! It temporarily broke my system too, but nothing dramatic: emerge -1 -j4 \ $(for i in x11-proto/ x11-libs/libxcb x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext \ x11-libs/libX x11-libs/xcb-util x11-libs/cairo \ x11-libs/pango x11-libs/gtk+ gnome-base/libgnomeui \ x11-libs/qt-gui; do \ qlist -IC $i; \ done) -v resulted in a build failure (a package complained about missing symbols in libxcb-xlib.so during the link step). According to the upgrade guide, that was not supposed to happen. The fix was easy though; I just ran revdep-rebuild at this point (not many packages needed a rebuild, I guess having --as-needed in my LDFLAGS saved the day) and then I repeated the command, finally deleted /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so* and everything was fine. One other slight breakage was revdep-rebuild wanting to rebuilt the same package over and over again. If revdep-rebuild wants to repeatedly rebuild a package, you have to unmerge that package first and then re-run revdep-rebuild; only then will you see the final packages that need to be rebuild (in my case, kde-base/systemsettings). Of course, rebooting the machine before finishing all of this is not a good idea. yeah, almost the same here. Removed the file first, run the la fixer then revdep- rebuilt and everything was fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
Ward Poelmans wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:51, Jorma Airola juggernaut...@gmail.com wrote: Same here, no breakage on my laptop or desktop. I have used dev-util/lafilefixer few time with --justfixit option few times,could that be the reason for smooth upgrade? Did you remove the lib libxcb-xlib.so or is it still there? Ward No i did not remove it nor is it there , slocate libxcb-xlib.so.0 returns nothing. Elogv for x11-libs/libxcb-1.4-r shows only INFO: prepare x xRunning elibtoolize in: libxcb-1.4 x x Applying portage-2.2.patch ... x x Applying sed-1.5.6.patch ... x x Applying as-needed-2.2.6.patch ... This is on my laptop with x86 system, haven't gone through my desktop with x86_64 thoroughly yet.
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:34:37 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm following the recipe on http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml which results in emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xcb-proto x11-libs/libxcb emerge -v1 -j4 x11-proto/xproto x11-proto/xextproto x11-libs/libX11 x11-libs/libXext ... -j4? if you want to give makeopts - that belongs into /etc/make.conf. I didn't even know that portage forwards those options emerge (at least 2.2) has it's own --jobs option to build several packages in parallel, if possible. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:49:39 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide.xml Since my browser got broken, too, this took some time. And following that advice takes even much more time, since I have to rebuild half of my system. Luckily it has 4 cores, Helmut. The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) $ sudo /var/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh Password: * Fixing broken libtool archives (.la) * Scanning for libraries requiring libxcb-xlib.so... * No broken libraries detected I wonder what I did different? Prehaps nothing. Rebuild warning is triggered by a check for libxcb-xlib.so.0.0.0, which didn't seem to exist on my system either. Guess xcb use-flag for libX11 is to blame: if it's not set, then older libX11 brought along it's own libxcb. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:34:32 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote: I had some breakage, but nothing significant. I only realised anything was wrong because emerge @preserved-rebuild failed on most packages, so I then RTFMed, ran the commands from that web page and all was fine. Konqueror kept working fine, so I didn't need to remember how to work any of the lynx variants. You must be very lucky to have such a fast machine. Are you saying this only breaks on slow machines? Machine performance is hardly relevant when nothing broke that wasn't fixable by a background revdep-rebuild while still using the computer. -- Neil Bothwick Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
HelloI found that "emerge --depclean" removes the packages that are necessary for my system:gcc-4.1.2font-cursor-miscfont-misc-miscI have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2.After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course.After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm.I don't know how to solve this problem.Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ?How can I do that.Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL.My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup.When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts.I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout.Thank you for help.Dopinguj naszą kadrę na Mistrzostwach Europy!Kliknij:http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://corto.www.wp.pl/as/eurobasket2009-2.html=860
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Krzysztof Poc schrieb: Hello I found that emerge --depclean removes the packages that are necessary for my system: gcc-4.1.2 font-cursor-misc font-misc-misc I have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2. After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course. After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm. I don't know how to solve this problem. Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ? How can I do that. Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL. My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup. When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts. I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout. Thank you for help. Hi, did you already unmerge gcc-4.1.2? What is the output of gcc-config -l when was your last emerge --depclean? You should always run emerge --depclean -av! so you have a better chance to stop any unwanted effects. kh
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
2009/9/15 Krzysztof Poc fajfu...@wp.pl: Hello Hi, I found that emerge --depclean removes the packages that are necessary for my system: gcc-4.1.2 font-cursor-misc font-misc-misc I have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2. After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course. After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm. Did you see the warning when you run emerge --depclean ? # emerge --depclean -p * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always * be kept. They can be manually added to this set with * `emerge --noreplace atom`. Packages that are listed in * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by * depclean, even if they are part of the world set. I don't know how to solve this problem. Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ? How can I do that. Try emerge -n =gcc-4.1.2 for example HTH regards, Boris Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL. My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup. When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts. I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout. Thank you for help. Dopinguj naszą kadrę na Mistrzostwach Europy! Kliknij: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://corto.www.wp.pl/as/eurobasket2009-2.htmlsid=860 -- 42
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 13:00:41 Krzysztof Poc wrote: Hello I found that emerge --depclean removes the packages that are necessary for my system: gcc-4.1.2 font-cursor-misc font-misc-misc I have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2. After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course. After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm. I don't know how to solve this problem. Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ? How can I do that. Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL. My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup. When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts. I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout. Put such problematic packages into world, eg emerge -n gcc:4.1 and a version of gcc in that slot will always be present till you manually remove it. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 12:22:59 Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:58:58 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:49:39 Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: To completely get rid of libxcb-xlib.so references, please read : http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/libxcb-1.4-upgrade-guide. xml Since my browser got broken, too, this took some time. And following that advice takes even much more time, since I have to rebuild half of my system. Luckily it has 4 cores, Helmut. The gods must be favouring me for a change. I'm completely unaffected by this upgrade :-) $ sudo /var/portage/x11-libs/libxcb/files/xcb-rebuilder.sh Password: * Fixing broken libtool archives (.la) * Scanning for libraries requiring libxcb-xlib.so... * No broken libraries detected I wonder what I did different? Prehaps nothing. Rebuild warning is triggered by a check for libxcb-xlib.so.0.0.0, which didn't seem to exist on my system either. Guess xcb use-flag for libX11 is to blame: if it's not set, then older libX11 brought along it's own libxcb. Yes, that's what it is. I too have USE=-xcb for libX11 -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Please, *do not* send HTML emails in the list, as they looks like below. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:00:41PM +0200, Krzysztof Poc wrote: divHellobr /br /I found that emerge --depclean removes the packages that are necessary for my system:br /gcc-4.1.2br /font-cursor-miscbr /font-misc-miscbr /br /I have also gcc-3.4.6-r2 installed. It does not remove gcc-3.4.6-r2.br /After unmerging gcc-4.1.2 I cannot compile anything of course.br /After unmerging font-misc-misc I can't see Polish fonts in Xterm.br /br /I don't know how to solve this problem.br /Should I make those packages more valuable to the system ?br /How can I do that.br /Is my xorg server incorrectly configured. I have xorg 1.5 with HAL.br /My system does not use any xorg.conf file. It autodetects configuration at startup.br /When migrating to xorg 1.5 I did not do any special steps to configure and install any Polish fonts.br /I only made the modifications to support the Polish keyboard layout.br /br /Thank you for help./divbr /br /br /br /Dopinguj naszą kadrę br /na Mistrzostwach Europy!br /Kliknij:br /A HREF=http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://corto.www.wp.pl/as/eurobasket2009-2.htmlsid=860; TARGET=_blankhttp://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://corto.www.wp.pl/as/eurobasket2009-2.htmlsid=860/A -- _ * Massimo Gengarelli massimo.gengare...@gmail.com ~0 (_| * Computer Science student @ http://www.unibo.it |(_~|^~~| * http://massitm.sohead.org -- my personal, outdated website TT/_ TT * All constants are variables.
[gentoo-user] Re: Screen resolution problem
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection [...] Sure, but we're talking about setting modelines and what not in one of the new *.fdi files which use xml notation, not the old xorg.conf Ahh not exactly... From OP Several obvious questions arise: _Why_ did X select a different resolution today? _How_ can I get to the higher resolution? _What_ can I do to prevent a recurrence of this problem? My suggestion would likely solve all three
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Great thanks to all of you for immediate help. emenrge -n solved the problem. By the way gcc-config -l shows: [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednossp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 * [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 Pokaż swojej dziewczynie zdjęcia z tym, co robiłeś z kumplami na wakacjach: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fpikeo.plsid=858
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean
Krzysztof Poc schrieb: Great thanks to all of you for immediate help. emenrge -n solved the problem. By the way gcc-config -l shows: [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednossp [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 * [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 Hi, so it looks like you manually added gcc-3* to your world file but did not do so with 4.1.2 until now. Since you have a newer version installed (4.3.2) depclean was removing older gcc not in world. Do you need the old gccs you are keeping? Is there a reason for not switching to 4.3.2? In case you didn't know the gcc-upgrad guide till now: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml kh
[gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
Hi, I have the impression that when rsync'ing /usr/portage/packages from another machine (BINSERVER), emerge --update --newuse --deep --buildpkg @system @world doesn't update packages which are upto-date on BINSERVER but not upto-date on the local machine. What's the role of the file /usr/portage/packages/Packages Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
Am Dienstag, 15. September 2009 schrieb Helmut Jarausch: Hi, I have the impression that when rsync'ing /usr/portage/packages from another machine (BINSERVER), emerge --update --newuse --deep --buildpkg @system @world doesn't update packages which are upto-date on BINSERVER but not upto-date on the local machine. What's the role of the file /usr/portage/packages/Packages Here it stores alotta info about the binary packages - for instance with what useflags they were compiled. This info is not in the archives, which only contain the files. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I guess irony can be pretty ironic sometimes. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:21:50 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Here it stores alotta info about the binary packages - for instance with what useflags they were compiled. This info is not in the archives, which only contain the files. No, informations about environment are included in tbz2 packages. You can read man xpak for explanations. IMHO, the /usr/portage/packages/Packages file is an index for the package manager to avoid wasting time to open, parse and close each tbz2 file.
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:19:01 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote: I have the impression that when rsync'ing /usr/portage/packages from another machine (BINSERVER), emerge --update --newuse --deep --buildpkg @system @world doesn't update packages which are upto-date on BINSERVER but not upto-date on the local machine. Does emaint --fix binhost help? -- Neil Bothwick One person's error is another person's data. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] configuring SVN repo w/apache w/o breaking dev-util/subversion
Hi. Would appreciate someone's view on the following: I want to configure SVN access via apache. This requires some modifications to /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf (http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/svn-book.html#svn-ch-6-sect-4.2) Since the file is owned by dev-util/subversion, I prefer not to modify it. Is there an alternative mechanism to modifying a package-owned file? 10x, Amit
Re: [gentoo-user] configuring SVN repo w/apache w/o breaking dev-util/subversion
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:17:16 +0300, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: Is there an alternative mechanism to modifying a package-owned file? It's in a CONFIG_PROTECTed directory (/etc) so it won't be overwritten by a package update. It's safe to modify it. -- Neil Bothwick Sometimes too much to drink is not enough. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] configuring SVN repo w/apache w/o breaking dev-util/subversion
Still it would incur an etc-update event, wouldn't it? Then, an absent-minded user (e.g. myself) could overwrite configuration when subversion gets upgraded. I was thinking of maybe creating an /etc/apache2/modules.d/471_mod_dav_svn.conf, which I could then freely modify. Amit Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:17:16 +0300, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: Is there an alternative mechanism to modifying a package-owned file? It's in a CONFIG_PROTECTed directory (/etc) so it won't be overwritten by a package update. It's safe to modify it.
[gentoo-user] python cleanup
Python and Java have taken me days to clean up on an old, mostly unattended system. I'm almost done, but have an issue, I've not seen before. emerge -p @preserved-rebuild [ebuild R ] dev-db/libpq-8.1.11 [ebuild R ] app-text/hunspell-1.2.8 [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r3 [2.5.4-r2] [ebuild R ] kde-base/kalgebra-4.2.4 [ebuild R ] app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.11 [ebuild R ] dev-lang/lua-5.1.4 [ebuild R ] sci-libs/libqalculate-0.9.6-r1 [ebuild R ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.5-r1 USE=doc* [ebuild R ] dev-scheme/guile-1.8.5-r1 [ebuild R ] sys-devel/gdb-6.8-r1 [ebuild R ] sys-devel/bc-1.06.95 [ebuild R ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.70-r1 [ebuild R ] dev-db/postgresql-8.1.11 Ok this is strange, as I have rebuild @system on this system and python-updater has moved everything to python 2.6 (???) dev-lang/python Available versions: (2.4) 2.4.6 (2.5) 2.5.4-r3 (2.6) 2.6.2-r1 (3.1) ~3.1.1 Installed versions: 2.5.4-r2(2.5) 2.6.2-r1(2.6) So what's pulling in python 2.5? equery depends dev-lang/pythondev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 Searching for packages depending on dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2... Nothing (?) So is it OK to unmerge python 2.5? Or do I still need it? I still get old garbage wanting python 2.5 with emerge -p @preserved-rebuild How to proceed is most welcome news to me. James
Re: [gentoo-user] configuring SVN repo w/apache w/o breaking dev-util/subversion
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:05:30 +0300, Amit Dor-Shifer wrote: Still it would incur an etc-update event, wouldn't it? Then, an absent-minded user (e.g. myself) could overwrite configuration when subversion gets upgraded. Yes, Gentoo gives you the gun, it's up to you to make sure it's not pointing at your foot. I was thinking of maybe creating an /etc/apache2/modules.d/471_mod_dav_svn.conf, which I could then freely modify. You could, but what if a change to the format in future introduces a change in the other file incompatible with yours? Learn to trust yourself with etc-update, you'll only screw up massively once. -- Neil Bothwick Strike any user to continue signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] python cleanup
James wrote: Python and Java have taken me days to clean up on an old, mostly unattended system. SNIP So what's pulling in python 2.5? equery depends dev-lang/pythondev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2 Searching for packages depending on dev-lang/python-2.5.4-r2... Nothing (?) So is it OK to unmerge python 2.5? Or do I still need it? I still get old garbage wanting python 2.5 with emerge -p @preserved-rebuild How to proceed is most welcome news to me. James You wouldn't happen to have that slot of python in your world file would you? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] python cleanup
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:29:42 + (UTC), James wrote: Installed versions: 2.5.4-r2(2.5) 2.6.2-r1(2.6) So what's pulling in python 2.5? World? emerge -Pa python should get rid of it if it's not in world. Otherwise you'll need emerge -Ca python:2.5. -- Neil Bothwick Like Entropy, bugs can only be created, not destroyed. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome default file associations broken
Hi, Am Sonntag 13 September 2009 23:26:45 schrieb walt: On 09/13/2009 12:32 PM, Sascha Hlusiak wrote: Where are the global defaults anyway, if you want to change the order, maybe? Where could you globally prefer acroread over evince and gedit over xemacs? Try running update-desktop-database, which will generate a new /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache. That's where gnomevfs-info looks for its database. Running update-desktop-dababase did help, but only after rearranging the XDG_DATA_DIRS in /etc/env.d/*, especially from KDE-3.5 which came too early. I guess that was the mistake why always kde-3.5 applications were default. Thanks for the hint, Sascha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
On 15 Sep, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:19:01 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote: I have the impression that when rsync'ing /usr/portage/packages from another machine (BINSERVER), emerge --update --newuse --deep --buildpkg @system @world doesn't update packages which are upto-date on BINSERVER but not upto-date on the local machine. Does emaint --fix binhost help? Many thanks, that looks great. I'll test it next time. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.30 and reiserfs?
In cd21cc1d-79ef-431e-94bd-9374fcca1...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk (Stroller) writes: On 14 Sep 2009, at 16:27, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: ... AMD64, reiser, sata (3ware)... strange I have had some weirdness recently with a 3ware 9500-S 2.6.30- gentoo-r4, but since you still haven't told us ANYTHING about the problem you're encountering, it's a little difficult to help. If You read the whole thread You would have seen, that I did. But for You again: file creation is not possible (eg touch foo) with the error message 'can not set times' (or similar, i had to fall back to 2.6.29 since this is a production system). Regards, Konstantin Stroller. -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos. B'Elana Torres
[gentoo-user] Re: python cleanup
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: You wouldn't happen to have that slot of python in your world file would you? nope, world file only contains this entry relate to python: dev-python/sip James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange desktop happening following update world
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: On reboot following recent update world I find the xfce4 manager is not able to display the former desktop wallpaper or even the wallpapers packaged with the install. Did you upgrade to jpeg-7 recently? Sure did... at the same time as the other stuff Sep 13. A couple of quick googles didn't enlighten me as to what difference that might make. The wall paper I had up before updating is a *.png file. `equery files jpeg-7' turned up a /usr/share/doc/jpeg-7/usage.txt.bz2 Again... not much enlightenment there. In short, jpeg-7 breaks some things :) It's not compatible with previous versions and while most programs don't have a problem with that, some do. I'm not sure exactly what causes XFCE to break, but gtk+ is broken with jpeg-7 and causes other apps like gqview to be screwed up as well. There's a patch on the gtk+ bugzilla that fixes it. If XFCE uses gtk+ that might be the cause. Recompiling all of XFCE might fix it, too.
Re: [gentoo-user] python cleanup
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:29:42 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: So is it OK to unmerge python 2.5? Or do I still need it? I still get old garbage wanting python 2.5 with emerge -p @preserved-rebuild How to proceed is most welcome news to me. Put it to package.mask and run emerge, it should complain that 'All ebuilds are masked', followed by the chain of 'pulled in by' clauses, which should be enough to find out what's going on. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's what it is. I too have USE=-xcb for libX11 I have xcb use flag enabled and haven't encountered any problems (and nothing had to be rebuilt). libX11-1.2.2
Re: [gentoo-user] MAC Pro eSATA Card
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 17:54 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Montag 14 September 2009 09:20:08 schrieb Matthias Langer: Has anyone here experiences with eSATA Cards for a MAC Pro running Gentoo? I've already tried two cards ([1], [2]). Both work fine in connection with normal PC hardware, but they are not recognized by the kernel (or even lspci) on the MAC Pro. Did you try to boot with some LiveCD and run lspci (-vv) from there? No, I didn't... maybe I should try it on the weekend (I don't have physical access to the box I'm talking about right now.), although I doubt that it will make a difference. Thanks, Matthias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] MAC Pro eSATA Card
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 00:04 +0100, Stroller wrote: On 14 Sep 2009, at 08:20, Matthias Langer wrote: Has anyone here experiences with eSATA Cards for a MAC Pro running Gentoo? I've already tried two cards ([1], [2]). Both work fine in connection with normal PC hardware, but they are not recognized by the kernel (or even lspci) on the MAC Pro. Hi Matt, I'm not an expert on the vagaries of MacPro hardware, which after all uses EFI instead of a BIOS, but are you using the same kernel configuration with the MacPro as you are on the PC that is working? As far as the eSATA Cards are affected the configuration should be identical. I fear that it has something to do with EFI. I would *expect* these to work. Is it possible you're using a kernel that's configured specifically for Mac hardware, and that merely omits the drivers for card. I'd really expect that compiling in the modules for the cards would make them work. Unfortunately it doesn't. I've manually loaded the module that is responsible for the card on ordinary PC hardware on the MAC - without success. We can perhaps be more help if you post the .config (`zcat /proc/ config.gz file`) for both machines the output of `dmesg` (with the cards fitted). I'm going to do this on the weekend, as right now, I don't have physical access to the box I'm talking about, and the eSATA card is currently not built in. Thanks, Matthias signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/portage/packages/Packages - what for?
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 15:04:23 Fabrice Delliaux wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:21:50 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Here it stores alotta info about the binary packages - for instance with what useflags they were compiled. This info is not in the archives, which only contain the files. No, informations about environment are included in tbz2 packages. You can read man xpak for explanations. IMHO, the /usr/portage/packages/Packages file is an index for the package manager to avoid wasting time to open, parse and close each tbz2 file. And it's fetched by machines using a BINHOST, as obviously over HTTP it's not practical to fetch the packages themselves to get the environment info. -- Mike Williams
Re: [gentoo-user] *** WARNING *** - upgrade to libxcb-1.4 (-r1) breaks your system
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's what it is. I too have USE=-xcb for libX11 I have xcb use flag enabled and haven't encountered any problems (and nothing had to be rebuilt). libX11-1.2.2 Maybe I missed it earlier in the thread but is this somehow a byproduct of running ~arch vs stable? I do not have -xcb on any of my machines and haven't seen any problems. (Yet...) I know a lot of folks here do run ~arch but I don't. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Monday 14 September 2009, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hey, Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for a replacement which should -- be widely configurable via ascii files -- be as far as possible controllable by keyboard -- be also useable with the mouse -- no eye-candy -- not ugly -- NOT tiling -- FAST! I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. Many people say fluxbox here, but you should also have a look at openbox (http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Main_Page) which is very similar but seems to integrate better into freedesktop.org standards. I use openbox because it gives me the speed and configurability of fluxbux while all the automagic things (suspend-keys, volume-keys, powermanagement, plasmoids, ...) that hal and kde4 bring still work. But maybe the latest version of fluxbox also does that..? I have not checked on it for a while. Hmm not sure that Fluxbox does much of that ... I understand that the way Fluxbox works goes against compositing that KDE/Gnome implemented. Does openbox do real transparency, or can you only see the desktop in e.g. aterm? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 14 September 2009, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hey, Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for a replacement which should -- be widely configurable via ascii files -- be as far as possible controllable by keyboard -- be also useable with the mouse -- no eye-candy -- not ugly -- NOT tiling -- FAST! I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. evilwm is cool! http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/EvilWM
[gentoo-user] update-desktop-database gives ... lacks MimeType
My system is running fine as far as I can tell, but reading a msg in this group raised my curiosity about update-desktop-database. When I do I get dozens of lines of applications lacking a MimeType key. Here are the first few. allan gottlieb # update-desktop-database --verbose Search path is now: [/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] Could not create cache file in directory '/usr/local/share/applications': Error opening directory '/usr/local/share/applications': No such file or directory File '/usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/reclevel.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/meld.desktop' lacks MimeType key I googled but only found msgs where things were failing. Should I be concerned about the lack of MimeType keys and if so what should I do about it. thanks, allan
[gentoo-user] comments on portage.keywords
hi, I have a Gentoo amd64 and I noticed portage doesn't ignore comments totally on the file /etc/portage/package.keywords (don't know about the other portage config files). if I have the following line on portage.keywords: www-client/mozilla-firefox portage unmasks the Firefox ebuild for my architecture. but if I have: www-client/mozilla-firefox # hello world portage doesn't unmask this ebuild. if I want to put a comment at the end of a line in this file [and I want that line to work], I have to explicitly add the architecture flag: www-client/mozilla-firefox ~amd64 # hello world I don't think this behavior is consistent, comments shouldn't matter. is that a desirable feature or a bug? see ya, -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1] Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil
Re: [gentoo-user] comments on portage.keywords
thank you, I didn't know about that. I thought comments were always stripped off the contents of the config files, no matter where they were. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Neil Walker n...@ep.mine.nu wrote: Crístian Viana wrote: www-client/mozilla-firefox # hello world For it to be a valid comment, the '#' MUST be the first character on the line. That's always been the convention. A FEW programs will recognise the '#' elsewhere in the line as the start of the comment but you should NEVER EVER rely upon that. I don't think this behavior is consistent, comments shouldn't matter. is that a desirable feature or a bug? It's totally consistent and highly desirable. Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
Re: [gentoo-user] comments on portage.keywords
Crístian Viana wrote: www-client/mozilla-firefox # hello world For it to be a valid comment, the '#' MUST be the first character on the line. That's always been the convention. A FEW programs will recognise the '#' elsewhere in the line as the start of the comment but you should NEVER EVER rely upon that. I don't think this behavior is consistent, comments shouldn't matter. is that a desirable feature or a bug? It's totally consistent and highly desirable. Be lucky, Neil http://www.neiljw.com
Re: [gentoo-user] comments on portage.keywords
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:17:51 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote: thank you, I didn't know about that. I thought comments were always stripped off the contents of the config files, no matter where they were. Title=### Look at me! ### Is there a comment in there? The general convention is that if the first non-whitespace character is a #, the line is a comment. -- Neil Bothwick With 5 billion people on earth chances are slim it will ever be *your* day. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Screen resolution problem
On Tuesday 15 September 2009, Harry Putnam wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection [...] Sure, but we're talking about setting modelines and what not in one of the new *.fdi files which use xml notation, not the old xorg.conf Ahh not exactly... From OP Several obvious questions arise: _Why_ did X select a different resolution today? _How_ can I get to the higher resolution? _What_ can I do to prevent a recurrence of this problem? My suggestion would likely solve all three Yes, you're right the OP asked just that and your suggestion will likely fix his problem. However, I had followed up by asking if/how the resolution can be adjusted via the new xml files - so I thought you were responding to my specific question ... -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Can I do this remotely?
I recently had the problem described here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70884 The solution worked. Now I'm being told the same system is having the same problem, but I'm away from there. Is there a way to fix it remotely? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do this remotely?
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 23:36:17 Grant wrote: I recently had the problem described here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70884 The solution worked. Now I'm being told the same system is having the same problem, but I'm away from there. Is there a way to fix it remotely? ssh in remotely and have a user log in to gdm locally. ps will show if xfce4-panel is running twice, so have the local user log out, you edit the session startup files and have them try again. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] update-desktop-database gives ... lacks MimeType
On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: When I do I get dozens of lines of applications lacking a MimeType key. Here are the first few. allan gottlieb # update-desktop-database --verbose Search path is now: [/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/ applications] Could not create cache file in directory '/usr/local/share/ applications': Error opening directory '/usr/local/share/applications': No such file or directory File '/usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/reclevel.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/meld.desktop' lacks MimeType key I googled but only found msgs where things were failing. Should I be concerned about the lack of MimeType keys and if so what should I do about it. For grins, I ran the command and received a lot of the same messages (probably all the kde4 apps and a few dozen non-kde4). So I'll second the OP's RFI... TIA, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] update-desktop-database gives ... lacks MimeType
Roy Wright wrote: On Sep 15, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: When I do I get dozens of lines of applications lacking a MimeType key. Here are the first few. allan gottlieb # update-desktop-database --verbose Search path is now: [/usr/local/share/applications, /usr/share/applications] Could not create cache file in directory '/usr/local/share/applications': Error opening directory '/usr/local/share/applications': No such file or directory File '/usr/share/applications/gksu.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/reclevel.desktop' lacks MimeType key File '/usr/share/applications/meld.desktop' lacks MimeType key I googled but only found msgs where things were failing. Should I be concerned about the lack of MimeType keys and if so what should I do about it. For grins, I ran the command and received a lot of the same messages (probably all the kde4 apps and a few dozen non-kde4). So I'll second the OP's RFI... TIA, Roy For giggles I did the same thing. Bring a dump truck because I have both KDE 3.5 and KDE 4.3 installed. It is a loong list of the same. I can post them if needed but don't really see the need to post a big message. x86 with little unstable installed except for KDE4. Maybe this is normal? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the WIMP paradigm isn't efficient. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! pgplSwfb3ZRYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the WIMP paradigm isn't efficient. That is just a silly comment. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it!
Re: [gentoo-user] Can I do this remotely?
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:36:17 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I recently had the problem described here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70884 The solution worked. Now I'm being told the same system is having the same problem, but I'm away from there. Is there a way to fix it remotely? You can use x11vnc to take control over what's happening on a local display with X. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: python cleanup
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: emerge -Pa python should get rid of it if it's not in world. Otherwise you'll need emerge -Ca python:2.5. Hello Neil, I'm still working this angle. It seems to clean up more, but, it's like I'm having to make several more attempts that one would expect to clean it up completely I'll post when I take this strategy cleans it up full, or as far as I can go with it. James
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com [09-09-16 03:55]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? Simply answer: I dont like it. :) mcc unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the WIMP paradigm isn't efficient. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak it! -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] comments on portage.keywords
but in that case the # character is inside a string, so it wuldn't be considered a comment. I was thinking like // in Java: it can be anywhere in the line, but if it's inside a string it's not considered a comment marker. but thanks again for the information :) On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:17:51 -0300, Crístian Viana wrote: thank you, I didn't know about that. I thought comments were always stripped off the contents of the config files, no matter where they were. Title=### Look at me! ### Is there a comment in there? The general convention is that if the first non-whitespace character is a #, the line is a comment. -- Neil Bothwick With 5 billion people on earth chances are slim it will ever be *your* day. -- Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [09-09-12 20:42]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have of windowmanagers I want to use is the possibility to control the windowmanager nearly completly with the keyboard (hotkeys configurable) which does *not* imply uncontrollable by mouse ;) Furthermore I should not be a hana-bi or anything else eye-candy like (nothing against hana-bi as hana-bi!) -- most of the time I will use the windowmanager instead of only looking at it -- which does not imply: black anmd white ugly ascii thingy. Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for a replacement which should -- be widely configurable via ascii files -- be as far as possible controllable by keyboard -- be also useable with the mouse -- no eye-candy -- not ugly -- NOT tiling -- FAST! I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards and have a nice weekend! Meino Cramer try Openbox, tiny but modern Currently I am playing around with fluxbox. There is one thing, which I do not get working (not knowing, whether I haven't found a way or whether it is generally not possible...): The selection of applikations in the apllikation (root-) menu via keyboard. Only the first applikation can be selected via its first character. If someone knows a way? The other thing is an up-to-date documentation I didn't found. It is a little annoying, that menu structures, which were unfolded, did not collapse as usual but need to be actively clicked away (sorry, I am no native English speaker). Is the fluxbox mailinglist of h low traffic or...? Unfortunately I found many text snippets on the internet, which explain how to activate certain aspects of fluxbox without explaining for what they are good for. But as I said...may be I did not find the correct documentation and use the wrong mailing list... I like the tabbing feature, the look of fluxbox, its speed and the possibility to steer much of its features via keyboard. The configuration files are clean, simple and easy to understand. Te time from installing to a working environment was very short. The following question is NOT meant in a rhetorical way: What would be reasons to switch to openbox? What are the main differences between openbox and fluxbox? (which is not meant as a firestarter for a flame war!!!) I am not interested in a better embedding into KDE or GNOME since I dont use them as an desktop environment -- I am only using some of their applikations from time to time. The console and the commandline is my homeplanet...old school but I am better reading in text than in guessing icons... ;) (dont meant too seriously but with a big smiley!) Best regards mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
[gentoo-user] Server standby
Hi all, I try to set up my server such that it can go to standby state if it has not been used for a while and can be wake up when there are some events such as that come keyboard, mouse, or it is great if it can wake up from LAN request. I try to google for a while and have not found any useful information. Any suggestion? Thanks a lot Hung
