Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .

2010-02-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:08:26 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

  The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are
  exactly the same as when using any other wifi connection.  
 
 but more than when just using 3G with you're wifi off I bet...  Not that
 I know how much power my wireless card uses.

The difference is minimal, either way. Cellular devices vary their power
requirements depending on signal strength, so it drains more in poor
signal areas. I know the Nokia N900 battery lasts longer when using wifi
than with 3G.

   It also has the
  advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.  
 
 and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me wrong - I
 looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool (about the size of eight
 stacked credit cards) I'm just saying...

Yes, but no more than any other access point using WPA. Less so really
because the range is much shorter that a normal AP.
 
  You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know
  what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I
  wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can
  just run claws-mail --offline to put the running instance in
  offline mode.  
 
 unfortunately evolution --offline opens a new instance of evolution
 and puts _that_ in offline mode...

:(

 Time to look at the source.

Or file a feature request.


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Don't judge a book by its movie.


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Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .

2010-02-05 Thread Stroller


On 5 Feb 2010, at 09:26, Neil Bothwick wrote:

...

It also has the
advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.


and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me  
wrong - I

looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool (about the size of eight
stacked credit cards) I'm just saying...


Yes, but no more than any other access point using WPA. Less so really
because the range is much shorter that a normal AP.


I really understand why you would want to use the MiFi.

Even if the MiFi + your laptop uses more power than just the laptop on  
its own, you can charge them separately.


However, you should change the WPA key of your MiFi from the factory  
default, if you haven't already. A 'sploit was announced this week - I  
read about it on /., I think. The MiFi uses its SSID (I think) plus  
the manufacturing date in setting its default key, and this leads to a  
greatly reduced pool of possible keys.


Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DLNA saga

2010-02-05 Thread Stroller


On 5 Feb 2010, at 03:47, Iain Buchanan wrote:


On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 13:55 +, James wrote:

Hello Folks,


In a previous thread I was curious about DLNA and anyone's  
experiences

with it. DLNA is definitely a new MicroSoft Infection!


As it turns out, a very bright (savant) EE friend of mine shared  
his recent

experience with DLNA:

QUOTE:


[interesting story]


end rant.
END/QUOTE


I just Don't Get It(TM).

Being an embedded programmer, it is so friggin cheap and easy to chuck
on a TTL-USB chip with drivers available for just about anything.   
Then

you have usb-serial (or plain old serial if you want).  Plonk your own
version of a tiny binary protocol on it an voila!


I'm extremely dubious of the alleged Microsoft-only compatibility.

James has failed so far to adequately answer the suggestion that  
*surely* the amp is *controlled* by a web-browser interface. Surely  
the point of the web-browser integration is so that the user can  
program the front-panel keys and the list of favourite radio-stations.


Whilst I have seen embedded devices (Dell DRAC4) that utilise Windows- 
only components, there was a purpose for doing so and I have seen many  
more (Dell RAC in the PowerEdge 2650, home NAS devices, 2 x KVM-IP of  
different manufacturers) that don't. Why should the programmer make  
his own life more difficult for no good reason.


I could imagine that a tuner might enable one to stream audio to a  
laptop using DLNA or a Windows plug-in, but in many cases one could  
just stream internet radio directly to the laptop.


Since we don't know for sure what the purpose of the web-browser  
integration is, it's impossible to even guess if it might be MS-only.  
Like I say, I'm imagining it _only to be for setting up_ the tuner's  
advanced functions, but the way to find out would be to talk to  
someone who has one (on, say, the AV Forums messageboards) or to try it.


Pointless speculation is pointless.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious syslog message .

2010-02-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:49:38 +, Stroller wrote:

 However, you should change the WPA key of your MiFi from the factory  
 default, if you haven't already. A 'sploit was announced this week - I  
 read about it on /., I think. The MiFi uses its SSID (I think) plus  
 the manufacturing date in setting its default key, and this leads to a  
 greatly reduced pool of possible keys.

I didn't wait for an exploit to be announced, I changed it straight away.
Not only for security, but if I'd lost the card with the key, I'd have
been screwed. Now it's something I can remember.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who
think.(Horace Walpole)


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Re: [gentoo-user] VGA-out screen aspect ratio

2010-02-05 Thread Grant
 I've only ever used my laptop's VGA-out into 4:3 screens and it always
 works great.  I've now plugged it into a 16:9 screen for the first
 time, and it still displays 4:3 on that screen and on my laptop.  Is
 there a way for it to detect the proper aspect ratio?  Maybe it
 depends on the monitor's EDID?  If not, can I manually change the
 aspect ratio?

 - Grant

 Not sure about how well it will work automatically, but try running

 xrandr

 and reading the output. It should tell you what monitors you have
 hooked up and what resolutions and scan frequencies they support. I
 did this and then put the ones I wanted into my xorg.conf file and was
 good to go.

 Hope this helps,
 Mark

 Thanks Mark.  Is there a slick way to restart xorg without rebooting
 so you can switch between VGA-out mode and non?  When I'm doing
 VGA-out, my laptop's screen changes to match the aspect ratio of the
 output so it's good to be able to switch.

 - Grant

 Not sure of the best way to do that, but is it really necessary?

 I suppose you could try (from the console)

 /etc/init.d/xdm restart

 and see if it does what you want.

 Note that you can set up your screens using xrandr itself. I'm not
 very good at it but I've played with it and it works. Duncan on the
 amd64 list posted a couple of commands he uses. They look like this:

 xrandr --verbose --fb 1920x2400 --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --panning
 1920x1200+0+0/1920x1200+0+0/20/20/20/20 --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x800 --
 panning 1920x1200+0+1200/1920x1200+0+1200/20/20/20/20

 Clearly that's a mouthful but I'm sure it makes sense once you get
 down to the basics. I think you can break it apart into something
 like:

 xrandr --verbose --fb 1920x2400
 --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --panning
 1920x1200+0+0/1920x1200+0+0/20/20/20/20
 --output DVI-1 --mode 1280x800 --panning
 1920x1200+0+1200/1920x1200+0+1200/20/20/20/20

 where DVI-0 and DVI-1 are the monitors and everything else is info to
 xrandr is what to do. You would change the output names to whatever
 yours are called. The first line 1920x2400 sets up (I think) the
 overall screen size and then the next two lines set up the two
 monitors. I think in his case they sit vertically, not horizontally
 like mine and possibly yours do.

 In my case I run 1280x1024 on the left monitor and 1680x1050 on the
 right monitor. I can drag stuff left and right just fine. It gets
 messed up if I play a game though.

 Anyway, there's some stuff for you to look at and consider.

 Cheers,
 Mark

Thanks Mark and Neil.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:

 On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:13:20 +0800, Leon Feng wrote:

 I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the
 same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is
 listed below, anyone has a solution?

 Are you also running the testing gentoolkit? Otherwise you're trying to
 use the old revdep-rebuild wit the new portage, which may have
 unexpected consequences.

 Have you run lafilefixer --justfixit? This should always be the first
 step when revdep-rebuild reports problems.

You were speaking to Leon no me (The OP), but since my output was
identical, I'll report too:

I'm running ~x86 on everything and latest version of gentoolkit (I
don't have gentoolkit-dev installed)

I've emerged lafilefixer (thanks Steve) and ran  
   lafilefixer --justfixit

Then ran revdep-rebuild again it still finds  broken binutils so
I'm letting it `oneshot' the emerge.

Was the expectation that running `lafilefixer --justfixit' would stop
revdep-rebuild from continuously finding a broken binutils?

Or was I expected to run lafilefixer --justfixit  and then rebuild
binutils once more?

In any case I did the later and now the oneshot has finished and a
rerun of revdep-rebuild again finds the same `broken' binutils

Apparently no progress has occurred..





[gentoo-user] Re: baselayout2/openrc question

2010-02-05 Thread walt

On 02/04/2010 01:29 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

...Gentoo now supports multiple package
managers, so portage is not required either.


I seem to be falling behind.  What other package managers does gentoo support?




[gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

2010-02-05 Thread Crístian Viana
hi,

I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was wondering
if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea for me to try to
do it :) ). for example, I may have:

=www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6

but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry becomes
totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a version, and some
time later this ebuild will have no keyworded version, so that
package.keywords entry will be useless too.

see you,

-- 
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]


[gentoo-user] Re: binutils broken revdep-rebuild

2010-02-05 Thread Harry Putnam
Mariusz Ceier mce...@gmail.com writes:

 But if I am reading revdep-rebuild output correctly, it means that
 your binutils is compiled to be linked against that library. But the
 library cannot be found by revdep-rebuild. Hence the error.
 
 W 
 libiberty.a comes from binutils.
 Looking at Stefan revdep-rebuild environment output it seems that
 revdep-rebuild doesn't handle 'include wildcard' statements in
 ld.so.conf. This bug is already reported #298651.

 Mariusz Ceier

Much of the conversation on bugzilla went over my head
Is there a known workaround a non-developer or non-tech-genius might employ?




Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem

2010-02-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 On  3 Jan, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm looking for a working and maintained compressed filesystem.
 I'd like to use it for backing up my root and my /usr filesystems,
 so that I can use rsync to keep it up-to-date.
 Perhaps you could try venti+fossil or git.

 Thanks, but I haven't found venti or fossil in Gentoo's tree.
 Are there any ebuilds around?

plan9port


 
 Helmut.
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

2010-02-05 Thread Dale

chrome://messenger/locale/messengercompose/composeMsgs.properties:

hi,

I'd like to remove unneeded entries on package.keywords and I was 
wondering if there's some program to do that (or if it's a good idea 
for me to try to do it :) ). for example, I may have:


=www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6

but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry 
becomes totally useless. and I may also unmask an ebuild without a 
version, and some time later this ebuild will have no keyworded 
version, so that package.keywords entry will be useless too.


see you,

--
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]


This should work.

eix-test-obsolete

Be prepared for a LONG list tho.  It prints a LOT on mine.  I would also 
recommend you save a copy of those files just in case.


Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] remove unneeded package.keywords entries

2010-02-05 Thread Fab
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 21:56:43 -0200
Crístian Viana wrote:
 for example, I may have:
 
 =www-client/mozilla-firefox-3.6
 
 but later (hopefully) this package will be unmasked and that entry
 becomes totally useless. 

# emerge eix
# eix-test-obsolete -d



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: baselayout2/openrc question

2010-02-05 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 03:52:15PM -0800, walt wrote:
 On 02/04/2010 01:29 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  ...Gentoo now supports multiple package
  managers, so portage is not required either.
 
 I seem to be falling behind.  What other package managers does gentoo support?
 
 There are two other package managers that can be used on gentoo
 systems that I know of.  pkgcore and paludis.

However, they are supported by their developers, and, the last time I
looked, gentoo's documentation still only supports portage.
 
 In that sense, portage is still gentoo's _official_ package manager,
 but there are alternatives if you don't want to use portage.  So,
 python actually is not required if you use paludis.  I believe pkgcore,
 however, requires it.

William



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: revdep-rebuild keeps reinstalling binutils

2010-02-05 Thread Leon Feng
在 2010年2月6日星期六 07:46:05,Harry Putnam 写道:
 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
  On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 22:13:20 +0800, Leon Feng wrote:
  I have seen this for weeks, but since I upgrade to portage-2.2* at the
  same time, do not know whether it is related. My revdep-rebuild out is
  listed below, anyone has a solution?
 
  Are you also running the testing gentoolkit? Otherwise you're trying to
  use the old revdep-rebuild wit the new portage, which may have
  unexpected consequences.
 
  Have you run lafilefixer --justfixit? This should always be the first
  step when revdep-rebuild reports problems.
 
 You were speaking to Leon no me (The OP), but since my output was
 identical, I'll report too:
 
 I'm running ~x86 on everything and latest version of gentoolkit (I
 don't have gentoolkit-dev installed)
 
 I've emerged lafilefixer (thanks Steve) and ran
lafilefixer --justfixit
 
 Then ran revdep-rebuild again it still finds  broken binutils so
 I'm letting it `oneshot' the emerge.
 
 Was the expectation that running `lafilefixer --justfixit' would stop
 revdep-rebuild from continuously finding a broken binutils?
 
 Or was I expected to run lafilefixer --justfixit  and then rebuild
 binutils once more?
 
 In any case I did the later and now the oneshot has finished and a
 rerun of revdep-rebuild again finds the same `broken' binutils
 
 Apparently no progress has occurred..
 
Same here. I  am running ~x86 too. 
lafilefixer --justfixit and reemerged glibc do no work.

I will try out the patch in bug 298651  soon.

Leon