Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On Donnerstag 04 März 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/04/2010 08:44 AM, Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com writes: no, it is not safe to have a 64bit only system. Just choose the multilib profile and start installing. If something needs the 32bit emul libs, it will pull the stuff in. There is nothing you need to care about. What is unsafe about a 64bit only system? Surely if it were unsafe then Gentoo would not offer no-multilib profiles? I have recently built 2 systems using a no-multilib profile and have not found any problems, and expect to start building a third one today. You didn't understand the question Volker was replying to. The question was not about safe as in security, but rather safe as in I can rest assured that a no-multilib system can run every software I could install, which is clearly not the case since some applications need 32-bit support. exactly. As Alan explained, there might be a point where you need to run a 32bit app. Maybe some legacy game (Civilization Call To Power comes to mind) or some new- but-the-vendor-sucks software. Without multilib you can either choose not to use that software (which isn't a choice if you really need it) or you can reinstall everything. And all that for a couple of megabytes on a tens, maybe hundreds of gigabytes harddisk. du -h /usr/lib32 362M/usr/lib32 but: rootfs 57G 23G 34G 41% / yeah, shocking. Almost a 114th of the harddisk used for multilib stuff ;)
[gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card
Hi everybody, I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered - even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL. No matter how many goats and virgins I have sacrificed to the gods of Google - can not find an answer. Am I missing something obvious? As a stop-gap measure I'm trying to rebuild my kernel without USB sound support, but it would be nice to not resort to such drastic measures.
Re: [gentoo-user] No more mythtv for Gentoo users?
On Mar 4, 2010, at 1:35 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: This notebook is nazgul, not because I'm a LOTR fan (which I am) but because it ties in nicely with the BOFH image I've been cultivating for years Thanks for bringing back old memories, it's been almost two decades since I read BOFH. ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On 4 Mar 2010, at 07:19, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 03/04/2010 08:44 AM, Graham Murray wrote: Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com writes: no, it is not safe to have a 64bit only system. Just choose the multilib profile and start installing. If something needs the 32bit emul libs, it will pull the stuff in. There is nothing you need to care about. What is unsafe about a 64bit only system? Surely if it were unsafe then Gentoo would not offer no-multilib profiles? I have recently built 2 systems using a no-multilib profile and have not found any problems, and expect to start building a third one today. You didn't understand the question Volker was replying to. The question was not about safe as in security, but rather safe as in I can rest assured that a no-multilib system can run every software I could install, which is clearly not the case since some applications need 32-bit support. I could imagine that web-browsers might need 32-bit support in order to play Flash, but can you suggest other applications which might? This is a headless server, and I was kinda reassured by Alan's response (Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:04:17 +0200) [1] that seemed to assure me that a statically linked 32-bit binary would work fine if I selected the no-multilib profile. I'd be really quite happy if I knew that this decision was revocable - if I could choose no-multilib now and change my mind using eselect later. Presumably I can choose to keep these 32-bit libs for the moment blow them away if I find I don't need them - this lib32 is, after all, in the stage3-amd64-*tar.bz2, so what is the point in offering me no-multilib if I can't do that? Stroller. [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_64a30b77742cf5846705952e6129367d.xml http://tinyurl.com/ykvx5co
Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk 4.4 is emerged with kde 4.3
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:02:56 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: how should i roll back those miss updated packages back to 4.3? or can someone tell me if kde 4.4 is pretty stable to use for desktop? I've found 4.4, even the betas, to be far more stable than 4.3. It's the first version that I consider properly usable. -- Neil Bothwick It's the year 2000. Where are all the flying cars? I was promised flying cars! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how to add custom compilation options?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:08:46 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: i want to emerge the crypto++ package with the -DCRYPTOPP_DISABLE_ASM option. i tried to add it into the CFLAGS variable, but it did not work. please tell me how to do this. This is C++ software, you need to add it to CXXFLAGS. -- Neil Bothwick You can't teach a new mouse old clicks. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On Donnerstag 04 März 2010, Stroller wrote: I'd be really quite happy if I knew that this decision was revocable - if I could choose no-multilib now and change my mind using eselect later. Presumably I can choose to keep these 32-bit libs for the moment blow them away if I find I don't need them - this lib32 is, after all, in the stage3-amd64-*tar.bz2, so what is the point in offering me no-multilib if I can't do that? you can not change on the fly. going from no-multilib to multilib means re- installation. no-multilib is meant for the very brave or people who know exactly that they never need 32bit apps on that box. Your manpages will take up more space then those few 32bit emul libs that might or not be installed. So there is no downside going multilib.
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem corruption - reiserfs? - won't boot, filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
On 3 Mar 2010, at 17:14, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:16:50PM +, Stroller wrote: Many thanks for your help, Willie! About 13 items. Is this unlucky? http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption-dev.png Okay, something is screwed up with udev. Is udev started? Ah! Ok... this is shown as an error when before the failed to open the device message. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption.png Startin udevd... error getting signalfd Is it upgraded recently? chroot # genlop udev | tail -n 4 Tue May 26 17:26:46 2009 sys-fs/udev-124-r2 Thu Jun 25 06:05:37 2009 sys-fs/udev-141 Mon Dec 21 04:57:20 2009 sys-fs/udev-146-r1 chroot # The system last booted ok in October and, until yesterday, has been up since then. So this December update may well be to blame. Any config files in /etc that needs updating? Nope. chroot # etc-update Scanning Configuration files... Exiting: Nothing left to do; exiting. :) chroot # Is udev directory in /etc okay? All looks ok to me: chroot # ls -l /etc/udev/* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 277 2009-12-21 04:56 /etc/udev/udev.conf /etc/udev/rules.d: total 24 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55 2009-10-11 09:38 30-svgalib.rules -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4311 2009-09-11 23:02 70-nut-usbups.rules -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1606 2008-12-22 12:33 70-persistent-cd.rules -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 440 2009-12-21 04:57 70-persistent-net.rules -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28 2009-07-22 03:04 99-fuse.rules chroot # At this point I don't think your problem is necessarily with the harddrive itself: I think we now know why fsck cannot open file or device. Check /var/log/emerge.log or the portage elogs. Did you upgrade baselayout recently? Yes, upgraded to baselayout-1.12.13 at the same time I udev was upgraded: chroot # genlop baselayout | tail -n 3 Thu Feb 12 09:36:25 2009 sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.11.1 Mon Dec 21 01:25:32 2009 sys-apps/baselayout-1.12.13 chroot # What I'm inclined to do now, having taken an image of the drive (I used ddrescue, which showed no errors) is try `reiserfsck --rebuild- tree` on the partition, just to be sure. I get the impression this is probably quite safe, but I have a backup anyway. I, too, suspect that won't fix the problem, so after that I guess I'll try remerging udev baselayout. I suspect remerging --empty may be necessary, but any other suggestions welcome. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem corruption - reiserfs? - won't boot, filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:55:44AM +, Stroller wrote: On 3 Mar 2010, at 17:14, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:16:50PM +, Stroller wrote: Many thanks for your help, Willie! About 13 items. Is this unlucky? http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption-dev.png Okay, something is screwed up with udev. Is udev started? Ah! Ok... this is shown as an error when before the failed to open the device message. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption.png Startin udevd... error getting signalfd What kernel are you running? You need at least 2.6.22 to have signalfd support, and at least 2.6.27 to have reliable signalfd support. If this is not satisfied, please either downgrade udev or upgrade your kernel. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] No more mythtv for Gentoo users?
Neil Bothwick writes: Wasn't Agrajag the toothless wonder that kept getting accidentally killed by Arthur Dent? Yes, all my hostnames are HHGTTG characters. Agrajag never crashes and has only died once... so far. Uh, makes me wonder if I am along your hosts, too? Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem corruption - reiserfs? - won't boot, filesystem couldn't be fixed :(
On 4 Mar 2010, at 10:23, Willie Wong wrote: On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:55:44AM +, Stroller wrote: On 3 Mar 2010, at 17:14, Willie Wong wrote: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 04:16:50PM +, Stroller wrote: Many thanks for your help, Willie! About 13 items. Is this unlucky? http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption-dev.png Okay, something is screwed up with udev. Is udev started? Ah! Ok... this is shown as an error when before the failed to open the device message. http://linux.stroller.uk.eu.org/fs-corruption.png Startin udevd... error getting signalfd What kernel are you running? You need at least 2.6.22 to have signalfd support, and at least 2.6.27 to have reliable signalfd support. If this is not satisfied, please either downgrade udev or upgrade your kernel. I'm surprised to find this system is still running 2.6.25. I'll upgrade now. Many thanks for your patient help, Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On 4 March 2010 09:15, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Donnerstag 04 März 2010, Stroller wrote: I'd be really quite happy if I knew that this decision was revocable - if I could choose no-multilib now and change my mind using eselect later. Presumably I can choose to keep these 32-bit libs for the moment blow them away if I find I don't need them - this lib32 is, after all, in the stage3-amd64-*tar.bz2, so what is the point in offering me no-multilib if I can't do that? you can not change on the fly. going from no-multilib to multilib means re- installation. no-multilib is meant for the very brave or people who know exactly that they never need 32bit apps on that box. Your manpages will take up more space then those few 32bit emul libs that might or not be installed. So there is no downside going multilib. Yep, that was my decision too for a desktop installation. If I were building a slim server and checked that all apps required are available as 64bit I might have chosen a no-multilib profile. For anything else I probably wouldn't. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 05:34:34PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote I had this once on a smaller machine, but now I'd prefer it the other way around, there's plenty of space available. I have 15G for distfiles and pkgdir, so I don't worry about some 100MB for the portage tree. I managed to pull off a cute stunt that... a) minimizes wasted disk space b) retains the ability to wipe and re-install the OS, without wiping user data The example below uses /dev/sda and a 500 megabyte / partition. I think I could get away with 300. Substitute as appropriate for your system (hda or wharever) Step 1) Partition a blank hard drive. - partition the entire hard drive (500 gigabytes in my case) as one gigantic extended partition (partition 1) - create a 500 megabyte logical linux (type 83) partition of at the beginning of the extended partition (partition 5). This will be the / partition - next, create a logical linux swap (type 82) partition approx twice the size of your ram (partition 6). - next, create a logical linux (type 83) partition using the remainder of the drive (partition 7). This will be mounted as /home. Here's what my drive looks like, according to fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 1 60801 4883840015 Extended /dev/sda5 1 62 497952 83 Linux /dev/sda6 63 549 3911796 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda7 550 60801 483974158+ 83 Linux Step 2) File system creation... *WARNING* the following script wipes all data on partitions 5, 6, and 7. Use this only when you want to wipe everything, *INCLUDING ALL YOUR DATA*, and start fresh. For mounting the drive after a reboot during install (or booting off the install CD for rescue work) use the script in step 3. #!/bin/bash mke2fs /dev/sda5 mkswap /dev/sda6 mkreiserfs /dev/sda7 swapon /dev/sda6 mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/gentoo -o noatime mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/home -o noatime,notail mkdir /mnt/gentoo/opt chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/opt mkdir /mnt/gentoo/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/var mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/opt chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/opt mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/opt /mnt/gentoo/opt mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp /mnt/gentoo/tmp mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr /mnt/gentoo/usr mount --bind /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var /mnt/gentoo/var Again, substitute as appropriate if your harddrive is not /dev/sda. Let's examine the script in detail... mke2fs /dev/sda5 mkswap /dev/sda6 mkreiserfs /dev/sda7 swapon /dev/sda6 The first 4 commands format the partitions and activate the swapdrive. Partition 5 really should be ext2fs for a few reasons... - Partition 5 will rarely be written to during normal operation; only when you are installing/updating programs/scripts that reside in /bin or /sbin so journalling isn't that important. - Journalling requires disk space, which we're trying to conserve. - Given the small size of the / partition, ext2fs is sufficient - ext2fs is the easiest filesystem to shrink/grow. If you ever need to grow the / partition in future, you can take space from the swap partition. Unless you're doing a suspend-to-swap, you can screw around with the swap partition with impunity. - partition 7 will require a (preferably journalling) filesystem that can handle a large partition. I currently use reiserfs. There are several competent filesystems. The choice is yours. mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/gentoo -o noatime mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/home -o noatime,notail The next 3 statements - mount partition 5 as / - create directory /home on partition 5 - mount partition 7 as /home. All physical partitions are now mounted. mkdir /mnt/gentoo/opt chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/opt mkdir /mnt/gentoo/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/var chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/var The next 6 statements create /opt, /tmp, /usr, and /var, and set permissions. mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/opt chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/opt mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp chmod 1777 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/tmp mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr chmod 755 /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/usr mkdir /mnt/gentoo/home/bindmounts/var chmod 755
Re: [gentoo-user] No more mythtv for Gentoo users?
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:44:49 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: Yes, all my hostnames are HHGTTG characters. Agrajag never crashes and has only died once... so far. Uh, makes me wonder if I am along your hosts, too? Wonko Surely you'd know if you were :) -- Neil Bothwick We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Alex Schuster writes: Now I'm going to emerge KDE-4.4.1, let's see what this will change. Nothing I notice. At least things have not gone worse:) Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation
Alex Schuster writes: Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:52:55 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: The data I've seen indicates that ext2 is fastest, that's what I use. I thought the small files of the portage tree especially profit from the notail option in reiserfs? They benefit compared with using reiser with tail-packing. Oh my. I have it the other way around, and never even thought much about what this does. Did you change the block size? I had to change both the block size and blocks per inode, otherwise I would run out of inodes on a 1GB filesystem. You have to admire the user-friendliness of ext! I only wished I could add more inodes after all are out, because this happens quite frequently to me. But yes, it's nice I can specify this at all. There's no need for journalling on the portage tree, it's small enough to fsck quickly and if it does get broken, reformat and resync. Would the journaling overhead be noticeable? I also had used ext2 for my portage tree first, then I read somewhere that reiserfs would be the best. BTW, I have distfiles and pkgdir somewhere else, if not the fsck would not be so fast. It's certainly noticeable compared with ext3. Many benchmarks do show ext2 to be the fastest filesystem, probably because of the lack of journalling overhead. When I saw some, it was maybe 15% difference, and that probably due to writes I assume. The portage tree is written during sync only, and then I do not care about speed. But would accessing lots and lots of small files be slowed down by journaling? Like you, I have $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR elsewhere, those files really should not be mixed in with the portage tree. Just for fun, I just copied my $PORTDIR into my tmpfs, emerge -DpN @system @world takes between 81 and 53 seconds. With reiserfs, I get 130 seconds first ($PORTDIR was unmounted first and mounted again to clear the caches), and 57 seconds in the second attempt. I had expected that tmpfs would be even faster. I think I just keep it the way it is now. The exact same thought occurred to me. With a local tree to sync from, tmpfs seemed a good choice (you could sync it from /etc/conf.d/local) but it seems like it is not worth bothering with. I would need more memory for that, I'm not at amd64 yet. But I probably should migrate anyway, and get another 4GB of memory. I'll try a reiser3 filesystem without tail packing to see if it beats ext2. I backed up my portage tree, re-created the reiserfs partition, and mounted without notail option. The same emerge command now takes about three minutes... no, on 2nd try it's five. Hmm... ah, clementine is indexing files. Why does it do this, I did not change files. Oh, and it has indexed all of my /data/mp3, while I only gave it four subfolders to index. Why does no audio player just accept my choices for what the collection is, and add other stuff? The next test gives 93 seconds, that's nice. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation
Alex Schuster writes: Neil Bothwick writes: On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:52:55 +0100, Alex Schuster wrote: The data I've seen indicates that ext2 is fastest, that's what I use. I thought the small files of the portage tree especially profit from the notail option in reiserfs? They benefit compared with using reiser with tail-packing. Oh my. I have it the other way around, and never even thought much about what this does. Did you change the block size? I had to change both the block size and blocks per inode, otherwise I would run out of inodes on a 1GB filesystem. You have to admire the user-friendliness of ext! I only wished I could add more inodes after all are out, because this happens quite frequently to me. But yes, it's nice I can specify this at all. There's no need for journalling on the portage tree, it's small enough to fsck quickly and if it does get broken, reformat and resync. Would the journaling overhead be noticeable? I also had used ext2 for my portage tree first, then I read somewhere that reiserfs would be the best. BTW, I have distfiles and pkgdir somewhere else, if not the fsck would not be so fast. It's certainly noticeable compared with ext3. Many benchmarks do show ext2 to be the fastest filesystem, probably because of the lack of journalling overhead. When I saw some, it was maybe 15% difference, and that probably due to writes I assume. The portage tree is written during sync only, and then I do not care about speed. But would accessing lots and lots of small files be slowed down by journaling? Like you, I have $DISTDIR and $PKGDIR elsewhere, those files really should not be mixed in with the portage tree. Just for fun, I just copied my $PORTDIR into my tmpfs, emerge -DpN @system @world takes between 81 and 53 seconds. With reiserfs, I get 130 seconds first ($PORTDIR was unmounted first and mounted again to clear the caches), and 57 seconds in the second attempt. I had expected that tmpfs would be even faster. I think I just keep it the way it is now. The exact same thought occurred to me. With a local tree to sync from, tmpfs seemed a good choice (you could sync it from /etc/conf.d/local) but it seems like it is not worth bothering with. I would need more memory for that, I'm not at amd64 yet. But I probably should migrate anyway, and get another 4GB of memory. I'll try a reiser3 filesystem without tail packing to see if it beats ext2. I backed up my portage tree, re-created the reiserfs partition, and mounted without notail option. The same emerge command now takes about three minutes... no, on 2nd try it's five. Hmm... ah, clementine is indexing files. Why does it do this, I did not change files. Oh, and it has indexed all of my /data/mp3, while I only gave it four subfolders to index. Why does no audio player just accept my choices for what the collection is, and add other stuff? The next test gives 93 seconds, that's nice. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Advice/best practices for a new Gentoo installation
Argh, sorry for the previous posts. I had some sort of Ctrl-lock, that is, the keyboard acted as if Ctrl was pressed all the time. Now I know that Ctrl+Enter is a shortcut to send an email. I accidentally closed some shells by pressing the D key. I was able to get rid off it by switching to a text console with Alt-F1 (the additional Ctrl key was also not needed) and back. Alex Schuster writes: The next test gives 93 seconds, that's nice. What is not so nice is that emerge -a --depclean took over half an hour of CPU time, needing half a gigabyte of memory. WOW. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] how to add custom compilation options?
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: This is C++ software, you need to add it to CXXFLAGS. -- Neil Bothwick You can't teach a new mouse old clicks. yes, i figured it out. thanks. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] power management cannot change LCD brightness
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:32 PM, roun...@hotmail.ru wrote: Hi, fisrt see if proc and your kernel has it right, do: cat /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD02/brightness echo 20 /proc/acpi/video/VID1/LCD0/brightness can change the brightness of my lcd. but dragging the power management tool still cannot work. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
[gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
I am trying to understand what is pulling in mysql again. This morning a load of qt packages were being updated and I noticed a bunch of perl and virtual packages in there too. Rest assured dev-db/mysql was in there, again. This is despite the fact that the mysql use flag seem to be not active as far as portage is concerned: # euse -i mysql global use flags (searching: mysql) [-] mysql - Adds mySQL Database support local use flags (searching: mysql) [-] mysql (app-admin/ulogd): Build MYSQL output plugin to save packets in a mysql database. [-] mysql (net-misc/mediatomb): Use dev-db/mysql as backend rather than SQLite3. If this USE flag is disabled, dev-db/sqlite is used in its stead. Looking into it further I see that the virtual package is pulling the database in: # equery depends dev-db/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on dev-db/mysql... ] virtual/mysql-5.0 (=dev-db/mysql-5.0*) # equery depends virtual/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on virtual/mysql... ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 (=virtual/mysql-5.0) dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.00.5 (virtual/mysql) x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql? virtual/mysql) So, is this telling me the virtual mysql package depends of the real mysql and vice versa? Should I give up and accept that just like a LAMP build, from now on a Linux desktop *must* run mysql and nothing else will do? I've read that sqlite is borked and won't do what semantic-desktop wants, but what about people who for arguments sake want to run postgress or some other database? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card
2010/3/4 Dmitry S. Makovey di...@makovey.net: Hi everybody, I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered - even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL. No matter how many goats and virgins I have sacrificed to the gods of Google - can not find an answer. Am I missing something obvious? As a stop-gap measure I'm trying to rebuild my kernel without USB sound support, but it would be nice to not resort to such drastic measures. I have the same webcam. My work-around is to unplug the webcam before you reboot. Real fix would be set up alsa so it knows the proper order of soundcards... I've never been able to get it to do that, though, so I just unplug webcam until I want to use it. If someone else has figured out how, I'd be happy to hear it too.
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On Thursday 04 March 2010 17:37:23 Mick wrote: I am trying to understand what is pulling in mysql again. This morning a load of qt packages were being updated and I noticed a bunch of perl and virtual packages in there too. Rest assured dev-db/mysql was in there, again. This is despite the fact that the mysql use flag seem to be not active as far as portage is concerned: # euse -i mysql global use flags (searching: mysql) [-] mysql - Adds mySQL Database support local use flags (searching: mysql) [-] mysql (app-admin/ulogd): Build MYSQL output plugin to save packets in a mysql database. [-] mysql (net-misc/mediatomb): Use dev-db/mysql as backend rather than SQLite3. If this USE flag is disabled, dev-db/sqlite is used in its stead. Looking into it further I see that the virtual package is pulling the database in: # equery depends dev-db/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on dev-db/mysql... ] virtual/mysql-5.0 (=dev-db/mysql-5.0*) # equery depends virtual/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on virtual/mysql... ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 (=virtual/mysql-5.0) dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.00.5 (virtual/mysql) x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql? virtual/mysql) So, is this telling me the virtual mysql package depends of the real mysql and vice versa? Should I give up and accept that just like a LAMP build, from now on a Linux desktop *must* run mysql and nothing else will do? I've read that sqlite is borked and won't do what semantic-desktop wants, but what about people who for arguments sake want to run postgress or some other database? The tool you want to answer this question is emerge -t There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a user wants postgres, he should install and run postgres. How would this affect the presence or absence of mysql? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:57:15 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The tool you want to answer this question is emerge -t There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. I notice qt-sql is in the list, does that have the mysql flag forced on? -- Neil Bothwick In the begining, there was nothing. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On 4 March 2010 15:57, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010 17:37:23 Mick wrote: I am trying to understand what is pulling in mysql again. This morning a load of qt packages were being updated and I noticed a bunch of perl and virtual packages in there too. Rest assured dev-db/mysql was in there, again. This is despite the fact that the mysql use flag seem to be not active as far as portage is concerned: # euse -i mysql global use flags (searching: mysql) [- ] mysql - Adds mySQL Database support local use flags (searching: mysql) [- ] mysql (app-admin/ulogd): Build MYSQL output plugin to save packets in a mysql database. [- ] mysql (net-misc/mediatomb): Use dev-db/mysql as backend rather than SQLite3. If this USE flag is disabled, dev-db/sqlite is used in its stead. Looking into it further I see that the virtual package is pulling the database in: # equery depends dev-db/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on dev-db/mysql... ] virtual/mysql-5.0 (=dev-db/mysql-5.0*) # equery depends virtual/mysql [ Searching for packages depending on virtual/mysql... ] dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 (=virtual/mysql-5.0) dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-libs/redland-1.0.10-r1 (mysql? virtual/mysql) dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.00.5 (virtual/mysql) x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 (mysql? virtual/mysql) So, is this telling me the virtual mysql package depends of the real mysql and vice versa? Should I give up and accept that just like a LAMP build, from now on a Linux desktop *must* run mysql and nothing else will do? I've read that sqlite is borked and won't do what semantic-desktop wants, but what about people who for arguments sake want to run postgress or some other database? The tool you want to answer this question is emerge -t Right, but I started this mammoth emerge before I spent enough time looking at its contents I'm afraid. :-( I could of course uninstall them and try again, but there's steam coming out the back of this old box and I would rather not have to rinse and repeat. This is what was pulled in today and most of the perl stuff seemed like new installs: Thu Mar 4 09:20:24 2010 dev-libs/libffi-3.0.9 Thu Mar 4 09:20:49 2010 dev-db/mysql-init-scripts-1.2 Thu Mar 4 09:26:49 2010 net-dns/bind-tools-9.4.3_p5 Thu Mar 4 09:33:38 2010 dev-perl/Net-Daemon-0.43 Thu Mar 4 09:34:57 2010 perl-core/Storable-2.20 Thu Mar 4 09:35:22 2010 dev-perl/yaml-0.68 Thu Mar 4 09:35:56 2010 perl-core/Test-Harness-3.17 Thu Mar 4 09:36:32 2010 perl-core/Package-Constants-0.02 Thu Mar 4 09:37:07 2010 perl-core/Sys-Syslog-0.27 Thu Mar 4 09:37:26 2010 virtual/perl-Storable-2.20 Thu Mar 4 09:37:41 2010 virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.17 Thu Mar 4 09:37:57 2010 virtual/perl-Package-Constants-0.02 Thu Mar 4 09:38:15 2010 virtual/perl-Sys-Syslog-0.27 Thu Mar 4 09:38:46 2010 dev-perl/PlRPC-0.2020-r1 Thu Mar 4 09:39:19 2010 perl-core/IO-Zlib-1.09 Thu Mar 4 09:39:35 2010 virtual/perl-IO-Zlib-1.09 Thu Mar 4 09:40:09 2010 perl-core/Archive-Tar-1.54 Thu Mar 4 09:40:27 2010 virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54 Thu Mar 4 09:41:03 2010 perl-core/Module-Build-0.34.0201 Thu Mar 4 09:41:19 2010 virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.34.0201 Thu Mar 4 09:41:52 2010 perl-core/ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.26.03 Thu Mar 4 09:42:08 2010 virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.26.03 Thu Mar 4 09:42:48 2010 perl-core/File-Spec-3.30 Thu Mar 4 09:43:21 2010 perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20.0401 Thu Mar 4 09:43:37 2010 virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.20.0401 Thu Mar 4 09:43:53 2010 virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.30 Thu Mar 4 09:44:48 2010 dev-perl/DBI-1.609 Thu Mar 4 09:47:31 2010 dev-util/boost-build-1.41.0 Thu Mar 4 09:55:19 2010 media-gfx/exiv2-0.19 Thu Mar 4 11:49:55 2010 dev-libs/boost-1.41.0-r3 Thu Mar 4 12:29:27 2010 dev-db/mysql-5.0.84-r1 Thu Mar 4 12:29:44 2010 virtual/mysql-5.0 Thu Mar 4 12:30:32 2010 dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.00.5 Thu Mar 4 13:08:28 2010 x11-libs/qt-core-4.6.2-r1 Thu Mar 4 13:12:49 2010 x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 13:28:44 2010 x11-libs/qt-script-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 13:32:06 2010 x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 13:33:58 2010 x11-libs/qt-test-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 14:01:18 2010 x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 15:45:26 2010 x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 16:11:12 2010 x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 16:17:31 2010 x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.6.2 Thu Mar 4 16:21:11 2010 x11-libs/qt-svg-4.6.2 There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a package must have it, wouldn't the USE flag mysql switch to + ? If a user
[gentoo-user] Re: mysql is being pulled in again!
On 03/04/2010 05:37 PM, Mick wrote: I am trying to understand what is pulling in mysql again. This morning a load of qt packages were being updated and I noticed a bunch of perl and virtual packages in there too. Rest assured dev-db/mysql was in there, again. This is despite the fact that the mysql use flag seem to be not active as far as portage is concerned: That doesn't matter. USE flags is for optional stuff, not required stuff. It's like having the kde USE flag disabled and wondering why emerging a KDE application wants to pull-in kdelibs...
I want my old Myth theme back! [WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more mythtv for Gentoo users?]
I upgraded to mythtv-0.22_p23069. Went through the whole song-and-dance of repairing the database for the utf8 to latin1 thing, and now it's finally back up. Except for one tiny problem. My G.A.N.T. theme is gone. I can't even select it as a theme. Is there some way to get it back? I liked the plain gray background, the fact that I could tell at a glance what was recording and what I had manually set not to record. And the fact that a generic episode was easily distinguished from a specific episode (I usually manually set generic episodes not to record, but now I have to take extra time to find each episode and check that it's not generic. :( I'm also not happy that they changed the order of options. -Michael Sullivan-
[gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here
Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu writes: On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 11:21:35AM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: snip Unpacking source... Unpacking DBD-mysql-4.013.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3/work Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3/work Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.01.3/work/DBD-mysql-4.013 ... * Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. object version 1.609 does not match $::VERSION %_ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/DBI.pm line 263. Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/DBI/DBD.pm line 3225. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/DBI/DBD.pm line 3226. Have you tried perl-cleaner? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/perl/perl-cleaner.xml So do you think its related to the update to perl-5.10? Have you had a similar problem and `perl-cleaner' fixed it?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:52:30 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: Have you had a similar problem and `perl-cleaner' fixed it? Any perl has modules problems after updating perl itself, you should run perl-cleaner. Or don't wait for the problem and just run it after any major version upgrade of perl. -- Neil Bothwick Pentium instruction of the day: FLI: Flash Lights Impressively signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysql is being pulled in again!
On 4 March 2010 16:45, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 03/04/2010 05:37 PM, Mick wrote: I am trying to understand what is pulling in mysql again. This morning a load of qt packages were being updated and I noticed a bunch of perl and virtual packages in there too. Rest assured dev-db/mysql was in there, again. This is despite the fact that the mysql use flag seem to be not active as far as portage is concerned: That doesn't matter. USE flags is for optional stuff, not required stuff. It's like having the kde USE flag disabled and wondering why emerging a KDE application wants to pull-in kdelibs... OK, I found out that qt-mysql caused it. Now I better change the USE flag and start again. Thank you all. -- Regards, Mick
[gentoo-user] Re: mysql is being pulled in again!
On 03/04/2010 07:07 PM, Mick wrote: On 4 March 2010 15:57, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a package must have it, wouldn't the USE flag mysql switch to + ? No. The USE flag is only for packages where MySQL is optional. If a package can't be used without MySQL, there's no mysql USE flag for it. I am thinking that x11-libs/qt-sql-4.6.2 may be what started this emerge of mysql. No, that one has MySQL as an optional dep and therefore it obeys the mysql USE flag. To see which installed packages pull-in mysql, use: equery depends mysql If the output starts with (mysql? then that package only pulls mysql if the USE flag is set. If it shows a package pulling mysql without the (mysql? part, then you've found the culprit.
Re: I want my old Myth theme back! [WAS Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No more mythtv for Gentoo users?]
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:08:25 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: I upgraded to mythtv-0.22_p23069. Went through the whole song-and-dance of repairing the database for the utf8 to latin1 thing, and now it's finally back up. Except for one tiny problem. My G.A.N.T. theme is gone. I can't even select it as a theme. Is there some way to get it back? Apparently not. The theme engine was completely rewritten for 0.22, to give more flexibility and options, and G.A.N.T. was not ported. The jos of free software, if a dev gets bored with something, they just stop. I'm also not happy that they changed the order of options. Neither was I at first, but once I got the hang of the new layout, I find it faster to use. Adding videos is an extreme example that was a real hassle in older versions but a trivial task now. -- Neil Bothwick Snacktrek, n.: The peculiar habit, when searching for a snack, of constantly returning to the refrigerator in hopes that something new will have materialized. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:07:22 +, Mick wrote: The tool you want to answer this question is emerge -t Right, but I started this mammoth emerge before I spent enough time looking at its contents I'm afraid. The use emerge --depclean -pv dev-db/mysql There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a package must have it, wouldn't the USE flag mysql switch to + ? USE flags control optional dependencies. If a package must have it, there won't be a USE flag. If a user wants postgres, he should install and run postgres. How would this affect the presence or absence of mysql? Well, I am assuming that if postgres can do what mysql does, then it could work in its place. Like if syslog-ng will do what metalog does, then the virtual/log-thingie will not insist in pulling in metalog. The difference is that the virtual/logger is satisfied by a number of loggers, while virtual/mysql is satisfied by different mysql variants. The other difference is that the various loggers present the same face to other programs, whereas postgresql has a different API to mysql. Anyway, the postgres is just an example of asking why are we locking down the choice of a database to a particular package/provider. WE are not doing anything of the sort. The upstream developers have decided mysql is the storage system they want to use. Supporting multiple databases would require time or experience they do not have, unless someone else is prepared to contribute some of their own. -- Neil Bothwick God: What one human uses to persecute another. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
Since you already merged it in: # equery depends mysql then unmerge or correct USE flags for dependent apps. To have portage error out instead of merging mysql in the future: # echo dev-db/mysql /etc/portage/package.mask/I_said_no_mysql HTH, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:52:30 -0600 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. object version 1.609 does not match $::VERSION %_ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/DBI.pm line 263. ^ Your perl installation is broken. That is obvious. What you do to fix it probably should start with perl-cleaner... FWIW my experience with updating it has been fine. Basically, why are you asking... So do you think its related to the update to perl-5.10? and Have you had a similar problem and `perl-cleaner' fixed it? ... because either you ran perl-cleaner or you didn't. It does something you need to do if portage manages perl, so just let it work. ;-) Just have a look a perl-cleaner itself if you are concerned. head `which perl-cleaner` #!/bin/bash Cheers, -- |\ /|| | ~ ~ | \/ ||---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael.higgins[at]evolone[dot]org
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:07:22 Mick wrote: There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a package must have it, wouldn't the USE flag mysql switch to + ? Your post seems to indicate a lack of understanding of how these things work. Often-times things are not optional, that's what must means. USE is diametrically opposed to that as it has to imply a meaning of may. If a package if hard-coded to use mysql, then it must have it, and putting it in USE in pointless. There's no rule about this. If mysql is a hard dep, then that's the way it is. If a user wants postgres, he should install and run postgres. How would this affect the presence or absence of mysql? Well, I am assuming that if postgres can do what mysql does, then it could work in its place. Like if syslog-ng will do what metalog does, then the virtual/log-thingie will not insist in pulling in metalog. Anyway, the postgres is just an example of asking why are we locking down the choice of a database to a particular package/provider. Again, you appear to fail to understand. metalog supports a variety of database backends. Not all apps are like this, some are hard-coded. If you want to use an app like this, you have no choice but to install mysql. If you don't like this, then your choices number two: 1. Tough, get over it; 2. Use a different app -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 22:07:14 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Again, you appear to fail to understand. metalog supports a variety of database backends. Not all apps are like this, some are hard-coded. If you want to use an app like this, you have no choice but to install mysql. If you don't like this, then your choices number two: 1. Tough, get over it; 2. Use a different app 3. Patch the code to support a different database. -- Neil Bothwick Better to understand a little than to misunderstand a lot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Need help discovering what's using a port (for cvsd)
A few years ago I was working on a programming project. I installed a cvsd server on our server box and checked in/checked out the project whenever I felt like working on it (it would have gotten majorly screwed up if the only copy of the project lived on my personal workstation - hence using cvsd). Anyway, I got busy with other things and forgot about that particular programming project. At some point over the last few years, cvsd got unmerged. I remerged it today and have been trying to get it to work. I checked the repository directory and the files I need are still there. I can't get the server to start. I tried running /etc/init.d/cvsd start and it failed with the [!!] thing. I catted the script and saw that the executable for the cvsd server lives at /usr/sbin/cvsd, so I tried calling it directly: carter log # /usr/sbin/cvsd --debug cvsd: debug: reading config file (/etc/cvsd/cvsd.conf) cvsd: debug: done reading config file cvsd: debug: cvscmd: /bin/cvs cvsd: debug: cvsargs[0]: cvs cvsd: debug: cvsargs[1]: -f cvsd: debug: cvsargs[2]: --allow-root=/root cvsd: debug: cvsargs[3]: pserver cvsd: debug: cvsenv[0]: HOME=/ cvsd: debug: cvsenv[1]: PATH=/bin cvsd: debug: cvsenv[2]: SHELL=/bin/sh cvsd: debug: cvsenv[3]: TMPDIR=/tmp cvsd: debug: cvsenv[4]: CVSUMASK=027 cvsd: version 1.0.7 starting cvsd: debug: binding 0.0.0.0 2401 family=2 socktype=1 protocol=6 cvsd: listening on 0.0.0.0 2401 cvsd: debug: binding :: 2401 family=10 socktype=1 protocol=6 cvsd: bind() failed: Address already in use cvsd: version 1.0.7 bailing out carter log # netstat -anp | grep 2401 carter log # Nothing. I hope I'm using the netstat command correctly. I wrote in to a linux list years ago asking how to find out which process is using a port, and they said to grep `netstat -anp` for whatever port I was looking for. Anyway, when I ran netstat -anpv, I got some errors: netstat: no support for `AF IPX' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF AX25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF X25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF NETROM' on this system. I assume these are kernel options, but without knowing specific symbol names, I'm not sure how to compile them into the kernel. Can anyone give me any advice on this situation?
Re: [gentoo-user] Need help discovering what's using a port (for cvsd)
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: netstat: no support for `AF IPX' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF AX25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF X25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF NETROM' on this system. I assume these are kernel options, but without knowing specific symbol names, I'm not sure how to compile them into the kernel. Can anyone give me any advice on this situation? I think if you don't have support for those protocols the chances of a program using them is probably zero. :) FWIW i get the exact same messages. I don't think it is meaningful. I use a similar command (omitting all the unix sockets stuff): netstat -lnp --inet With regard to your original problem, try to edit the cvsd.conf and specify an actual IP address to listen on (instead of 0.0.0.0 or * or however it is defined there) and see if that helps.
OT: CVS [WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Need help discovering what's using a port (for cvsd)]
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 17:30 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: netstat: no support for `AF IPX' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF AX25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF X25' on this system. netstat: no support for `AF NETROM' on this system. I assume these are kernel options, but without knowing specific symbol names, I'm not sure how to compile them into the kernel. Can anyone give me any advice on this situation? I think if you don't have support for those protocols the chances of a program using them is probably zero. :) FWIW i get the exact same messages. I don't think it is meaningful. I use a similar command (omitting all the unix sockets stuff): netstat -lnp --inet With regard to your original problem, try to edit the cvsd.conf and specify an actual IP address to listen on (instead of 0.0.0.0 or * or however it is defined there) and see if that helps. Now I've got the server running, but I can't connect to it: mich...@camille ~ $ cvs login Logging in to :pserver:mich...@carter.espersunited.com:2401/root CVS password: cvs [login aborted]: connect to carter.espersunited.com(192.168.1.2):2401 failed: Connection refused My .cvspass looks kinda weird too: mich...@camille ~ $ cat .cvspass /1 :pserver:mich...@carter.espersunited.com:2401/root Ah0 %0]y? Is this right?
[gentoo-user] Re: Is the move perl-5.10 involved here
Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org writes: On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:52:30 -0600 Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. object version 1.609 does not match $::VERSION %_ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i686-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 223. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/i686-linux/DBI.pm line 263. ^ Your perl installation is broken. That is obvious. What you do to fix it probably should start with perl-cleaner... FWIW my experience with updating it has been fine. Basically, why are you asking... I was unable to install dev-perl/DBD-mysql but now seems to work after running perl-cleaner Thanks Willie... and thanks to all posters
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Advice for 64-bit n00b?
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 08:56:34AM +, Stroller wrote I could imagine that web-browsers might need 32-bit support in order to play Flash If you're brave, there's an alpha (as in pre-beta, not the CPU) 64-bit plugin for linux at... http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html but can you suggest other applications which might? Realplayer, or any other proprietary plugin. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] mysql is being pulled in again!
On 4 March 2010 20:07, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010 19:07:22 Mick wrote: There will be a reason why mysql is being pulled in, most likely a package that must have it. If a package must have it, wouldn't the USE flag mysql switch to + ? Your post seems to indicate a lack of understanding of how these things work. Yep. :-( Often-times things are not optional, that's what must means. USE is diametrically opposed to that as it has to imply a meaning of may. If a package if hard-coded to use mysql, then it must have it, and putting it in USE in pointless. I see. I thought that (some relevant) USE flags reflected dependencies at some level and that if a dependency changed then this would reflect those USE flags which would now show up as active. So I thought that the mysql USE flag would change from - to +. There's no rule about this. If mysql is a hard dep, then that's the way it is. If a user wants postgres, he should install and run postgres. How would this affect the presence or absence of mysql? Well, I am assuming that if postgres can do what mysql does, then it could work in its place. Like if syslog-ng will do what metalog does, then the virtual/log-thingie will not insist in pulling in metalog. Anyway, the postgres is just an example of asking why are we locking down the choice of a database to a particular package/provider. Again, you appear to fail to understand. metalog supports a variety of database backends. Not all apps are like this, some are hard-coded. If you want to use an app like this, you have no choice but to install mysql. If you don't like this, then your choices number two: 1. Tough, get over it; 2. Use a different app No I think you fail to understand what I fail to understand! Ha, ha! :-)) I was not talking about what db a syslog app will use as a back end. I was trying to understand why a virtual package like virtual/mysql is pulling in dev-db/mysql and I used the syslog virtual/real relationship as an analogy. Anyway, I now know two things: a) qt-sql pulled in mysql b) when the wife shouts at me to get going with chores, I do not start an emerge without first checking the contents of it! :-)) Thanks again for your replies. -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and sound card
On 03/04/2010 08:37 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: 2010/3/4 Dmitry S. Makovey di...@makovey.net: Hi everybody, I have just bought Logitech WebCam Pro 9000 and much to my suprise things pretty much worked out of the box... almost. As I have discovered - even though video is working flawlessly, my audio has gone AWOL. I have the same webcam. My work-around is to unplug the webcam before you reboot. Real fix would be set up alsa so it knows the proper order of soundcards... I've never been able to get it to do that, though, so I just unplug webcam until I want to use it. If someone else has figured out how, I'd be happy to hear it too. well I've figured it out half-way (based on http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/MultipleCards ) alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore options snd major=116 cards_limit=4 alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-osshree alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel options snd-hda-intel index=0 alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio alias sound-slot-1 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=1 options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-usb-audio Now my problem is that the only control ALSA shows for my built-in hda-intel is Master with no sub-channles available. Anybody knowledgeable enough to suggest where is the problem?
