Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Philip Webb writes: I see 1 improvement 2 regressions so far; NB I don't use the desktop (that's Fluxbox), only some apps. Konsole has lost its 'fixed GNU' font, which now calls up something nasty (yes, I know there's an entry in the list, but it's a different font). I've switched to Xterm for Mutt may junk Konsole for user terminal too. I noticed this when I started KDE 4.4 for the first time. It looked quite different (and a little ugly), but somehow I got used to it. Gwenview shows a lot of silly little pictures plastered all over folders there seems to be no way of telling it not to. Do I want a picture of Conrad Black in my big 'people' collection ? -- Yes. Do I want to look at him every time I open Gwenview ? -- No !! Those four thumbnails on each folder icon? I actually like these :) Gwenview has regained F2='rename', which it lost after KDE 3 , a plus. So at least sometimes things improve :) I don't use gwenview much. When I used it a while ago, browsing through many photos, and rotating lots of them, it always crashed after a while, after it hogged very much of my memory. Just retried that, problem's gone. Hooray! Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31
On Wednesday 10 March 2010 16:19:34 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-03-10 9:07 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: The current opinion of the current author of the kernel upgrade guide says what you quoted. It's his opinion, it's what he thinks will work best for the majority of people. It's probably also the wording that has been proven to result in the least bugzilla entries and the fewest mails in his inbox from the Help me! mob. It is either a part of the *official* gentoo documentation, or it isn't. My understanding is that it is. Is that incorrect? In other words, it is not $random_guide found on the internet somewhere, nor is it some gentoo dev's private wiki, it is formal, official gentoo documentation - and that *is* a fact. If what you say is true, then I guess every single page of every single bit of gentoo documentation should come with a big fat warning that 'this is just someone's personal opinion, so don't give it any weight whatsoever - hey, just do your own thang!'... You are twisting my words to mean something I did not say or mean or intend. Please stop doing that. Overall the docs are fine. That particular statement under discussion is bad advice as it implies something that is demonstrably not true. Where did I say that all of the maintained official docs are low quality? I believe I said no such thing, nor implied it. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
Hi, I'm trying to install ati drivers, but I fins and error: * ati-driver-installer-9-11-x86.x86_64.run RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * CPV: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11 * REPO: gentoo * USE: elibc_glibc kernel_linux modules userland_GNU x86 * Determining the location of the kernel source code * Found kernel source directory: * /usr/src/linux * Could not find a Makefile in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a complete set of Linux sources * Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version for build, attempting to use running version * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. * If you are using KBUILD_OUTPUT, please set the environment var so that * it points to the necessary object directory so that it might find .config. * ERROR: x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.11 failed: * Kernel not configured; no .config found in * * Call stack: * ebuild.sh, line 54: Called pkg_setup [...] But I have my kernel, conf and MAkefile in /usr/src/linux: lx-arnau linux # uname -r 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 lx-arnau linux # ls -lsad /usr/src/linux 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2009-11-27 16:20 /usr/src/linux - linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r6 lx-arnau linux # ls /usr/src/linux arch crypto firmware include ipc lib Module.markers Module.symvers scripts sound usr vmlinux block drivers fsinit kernel mm modules.order net security System.map virt vmlinux.o lx-arnau linux # ls -lsa /usr/src/linux/.config 92 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 87932 2010-03-11 11:16 /usr/src/linux/.config so, why is ati complaining aboput my kerel conf? TIA, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
Am 03/11/10 11:23, schrieb Arnau Bria: lx-arnau linux # ls /usr/src/linux arch crypto firmware include ipc lib Module.markers Module.symvers scripts sound usr vmlinux block drivers fsinit kernel mm modules.order net security System.map virt vmlinux.o lx-arnau linux # ls -lsa /usr/src/linux/.config 92 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 87932 2010-03-11 11:16 /usr/src/linux/.config so, why is ati complaining aboput my kerel conf? TIA, This listing is not a complete kernel set. Did you do a emerge --depclean lately? Reemerge you kernel ebuild and do a make oldconfig to be sure. Then try it again. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:31:03 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: [...] This listing is not a complete kernel set. For curiosity, what is missing? make oldconfing?¿ Did you do a emerge --depclean lately? yep. Reemerge you kernel ebuild and do a make oldconfig to be sure. I'm with r6 and gentoo-sources is at r10, is it important? do Ihave to remerge r6 too? Then try it again. Norman Thanks, Arnau -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:23:04 +0100, Arnau Bria wrote: * Could not find a Makefile in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a complete set of Linux sources * Unable to calculate Linux Kernel version for build, attempting to use running version * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory. * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux sources. It looks like /usr/src/linux points to newly installed kernel sources on which you have not run make *config yet. -- Neil Bothwick Never argue with an idiot. First, they bring you down to their level. Then they beat you with experience. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
Am 03/11/10 11:55, schrieb Arnau Bria: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:31:03 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: [...] This listing is not a complete kernel set. For curiosity, what is missing? make oldconfing?¿ Did you do a emerge --depclean lately? yep. Reemerge you kernel ebuild and do a make oldconfig to be sure. I'm with r6 and gentoo-sources is at r10, is it important? do Ihave to remerge r6 too? Then try it again. Norman Thanks, Arnau A complete listing looks like this: bragi linux # ls arch drivers Kbuild modules.builtin samples usr block firmware kernel modules.orderscripts virt COPYINGfslib Module.symvers securityvmlinux CREDITSinclude MAINTAINERS net sound vmlinux.o crypto init Makefile README System.map Documentation ipc mm REPORTING-BUGS tools bragi linux # Depclean seems to delete some parts of the kernel directory if you have a newer kernel ebuild available. Had that too, once. Which release you use r6 or r10 is your choise. r10 is newer with more security patches and such, so i would say you should use that one. Do you know how to deal with a kernel update? Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:48:52 + Neil Bothwick wrote: Hi Neil, It looks like /usr/src/linux points to newly installed kernel sources on which you have not run make *config yet. nop, that's not the case: # uname -r 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 #ls -lsa total 16 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2010-02-22 21:18 . 4 drwxr-xr-x 17 root root 4096 2009-10-08 13:00 .. 0 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 2006-08-30 19:04 .keep 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2009-11-27 16:20 linux - linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r6 4 drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 2010-03-11 11:58 linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r10 4 drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2010-03-11 10:33 linux-2.6.31-gentoo-r6 thanks for your rpely, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:09:43 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: A complete listing looks like this: bragi linux # ls arch drivers Kbuild modules.builtin samples usr block firmware kernel modules.orderscripts virt COPYINGfslib Module.symvers securityvmlinux CREDITSinclude MAINTAINERS net sound vmlinux.o crypto init Makefile README System.map Documentation ipc mm REPORTING-BUGS tools bragi linux # Depclean seems to delete some parts of the kernel directory if you have a newer kernel ebuild available. Had that too, once. ok, many thanks. Which release you use r6 or r10 is your choise. r10 is newer with more security patches and such, so i would say you should use that one. Do you know how to deal with a kernel update? yes, yes, but I wanted to test ati drivers compilation before recompiling the kernel and rebooting... anyway, as I have to open my computer for changing video-card, going to build new kernel an then, ati-drivers. Norman thanks for your reply, -- Arnau Bria http://blog.emergetux.net Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity
[gentoo-user] Sound with xfce4 and Firefox
I don't use sound very often, but recently I noticed when I play news videos in Firefox there isn't any sound coming through the headphones. It's an Intel 32bit box with xfce4. I don't have speakers hooked up just headphones and it use to work a few months ago. I suspect it stopped working after an upgrade. Is this something to do with xfce4, Firefox, or something else? Thanks, dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:55:30PM +, Mick wrote If you had not enabled framebuffer in your old kernel then I can't think how it would show up as enabled in your new kernel (as far as I know fb is not enabled by default on any kernels that I've ever built) I'm running textmode console as I type this message. I can tell the difference between the font in this mode, versus the dinky font when booting from the install CD. I was getting the dinky font like the install CD, with a lot more than 80 columns across. And there was a kernel panic because gentoo couldn't find the boot device. Hmm ... so it's not just framebuffer but different filesystems perhaps? I've got a 400 megabyte / (/dev/sda5) and the rest of the disk is ReiserFS, with bindmounts for /opt, /var, /usr. and /tmp. Here is part of my /etc/fstab... /dev/sda5 / ext2noatime 0 1 /dev/sda7 /home reiserfsnoatime,notail 0 2 /home/bindmounts/opt/optautobind 0 0 /home/bindmounts/var/varautobind 0 0 /home/bindmounts/usr/usrautobind 0 0 /home/bindmounts/tmp/tmpautobind 0 0 Part of the output from cat /proc/config.gz | gunzip | less... # # File systems # CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y # CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY is not set # CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP is not set # CONFIG_EXT3_FS is not set # CONFIG_EXT4_FS is not set CONFIG_FS_MBCACHE=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is not set # CONFIG_REISERFS_PROC_INFO is not set CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_POSIX_ACL=y # CONFIG_REISERFS_FS_SECURITY is not set # CONFIG_JFS_FS is not set CONFIG_FS_POSIX_ACL=y # CONFIG_XFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_OCFS2_FS is not set # CONFIG_BTRFS_FS is not set CONFIG_FILE_LOCKING=y CONFIG_DNOTIFY=y CONFIG_INOTIFY=y CONFIG_INOTIFY_USER=y # CONFIG_QUOTA is not set # CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set # CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS is not set # CONFIG_FUSE_FS is not set With regards to your kernel panic I suspect an error in the .config file you copied over. Do you keep a copy both in /usr/src/linux-gentoo-XXX/ and in /boot? If yes then copy over your .config from a different location this time, otherwise you'll have to go about it through the manual method. I'll try cat /proc/config.gz | gunzip .config and run oldconfig on that instead. And I'm running gcc-4.3.4, and it's the only gcc on my system, and gcc-config agrees. PS. Just checking the obvious: you aren't manually patching your kernels and forgot to do it this time, right? Nope, nothing like that. PS, why isn't there a gzcat command in Gentoo? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:03:21 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: PS, why isn't there a gzcat command in Gentoo? Because it's called zcat. -- Neil Bothwick Marriage is a relationship in which one person is always right and the other is a husband signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:03:21 -0500 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: PS, why isn't there a gzcat command in Gentoo? It is zcat no g.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale, you brave, brave man, are you really using KDE4 now? I am in KDE4. I still have KDE3 installed tho. Thing is, I'm still using the same programs I was in KDE3. Dolphin looks nice and all but I can't use it as root at all. Huh? No problem here. OT: does anyone know about dolphin somehow accessing all files it shows? I see this on a system that uses dolphin to browse remote files via the fish protocol. Previews are not enabled, but all the files are accessed, which means it takes about one hour until the directory is shown, because all files are being retrieved from a SAM-FS server. Maybe it is reading the magic number for each file? I will try konqueror now. So, I went back to Konqueror to edit config files and such. I don't use some of the programs that you are using so I don't have the same issues. I use smplayer to do movies or CDs. It doesn't care what DE you use. Ah, smplayer. Did not think about that. It was not important anyway - I had ripped a CD with K3b, and wondered why two tracks were swapped. BTW, what do you use for ripping? K3b is okay, but it does not remember changes like output path or file naming, I have to set this again for every CD. But smplayer does not recognise the CD either. I wonder why I do not have a /dev/cdrom device - only /dev/cdrom3, /dev/cdrw3, /dev/dvd3 and /dev/dvdrw3, all symlinking to /dev/sr0. I do like the looks of KDE4. I still think they dropped KDE3 to soon. KDE4 will get there but it is still having issues many months after dropping KDE3. Bad thing is, I don't think they care about the users they left hanging in the wind. I also think KDE3 was dropped too soon. While KDE4 is usable now for most things, it still has too many bugs, and a while ago it had many many more, while development and bug fixing of KDE3 was already stopped. On the other hand, manpower is limited, and I understand the decision to focus on the new project rather than doing stuff for the old one that soon noone will be using. KDE 3.5 is still there. I don't know about the security issues, would it be unsafe now to use KDE 3.5? I remember something about kpfd being masked due to security holes. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Only two people in the gentoo world is having this problem?
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/10/10, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: While ago I reported a bug regarding gvfs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302196 It's been unresolved for quite a long time now, so I was wondering if somebody could give me a hint on how to solve this problem. Are you still using lzma-utils, or have you moved on to xz-utils? I'm using app-arch/xz-utils. Which package owns your /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.*? (equery belongs foofile on Gentoo, dunno what is the equivalent on paludis) Acording to the output of `paludis --owner /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la` no package is the owner. I'm really lost right now...
Re: [gentoo-user] Only two people in the gentoo world is having this problem?
Hi Mark, 1) What profile are you using? (eselect profile list) default/linux/amd64/10.0 2) USE flags from make.conf nls -kde -qt3 qt4 dvd alsa cdr X a52 aac acpi apm -arts \ bash-completion bzip2 crypt dbus dts dvdr ffmpeg flac gif hal hddtemp \ iconv jpeg jpeg2k latex libnotify lm_sensors mad mp3 mpeg mpi mplayer \ nsplugin ogg opengl pdf raw sdl sharedmem sockets spell sse2 ssl svg \ svga taglib threads usb -vim-syntax vorbis wifi win32codecs \ xcomposite xvid zlib truetype type1 avi dvdread mjpeg subtitles sse \ mmx ssse3 emacs pmu nvidia beagle bluetooth 3) Current results of emerge -pvDuN @world (assuming portage 2.2 or higher...) Sadly, I cannot use emerge on my system. The problem may be paludis related (I also asked in the paludis mailing liist) but I doubt it. 4) results of revdep-rebuild -ip reconcilio finds gvfs as a broken only package: * gnome-base/gvfs-1.2.3::installed /usr/libexec/gvfsd-archive (requires liblzmadec.so.0) I don't know what else to suggest at this point. I've got the stable version emerged. I haven't had any problems myself but Gentoo is always a bit different from user to user. No problem, I will see what other things I can try. I'm far from being a gentoo expert, so that might be the process of discovering the error harder. Best, Damian.
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound with xfce4 and Firefox
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:29:09 -0500 dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: I don't use sound very often, but recently I noticed when I play news videos in Firefox there isn't any sound coming through the headphones. It's an Intel 32bit box with xfce4. I don't have speakers hooked up just headphones and it use to work a few months ago. I suspect it stopped working after an upgrade. Is this something to do with xfce4, Firefox, or something else? Thanks, dhk Already checked mixer/volume settings?
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple versions of automake?
On 2010-03-10 4:05 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2010-03-10 12:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: equery can be unreliable. If emerge --depclean -a wants to remove one of both of them, let it, otherwise leave well alone. How does that differ from 'emerge -p --depclean'? Saves you the time of running it twice if you decide to say Yes Well that was kind of obvious... ;) ok, thanks... -- Charles
Re: [gentoo-user] Only two people in the gentoo world is having this problem?
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/10/10, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: While ago I reported a bug regarding gvfs: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302196 It's been unresolved for quite a long time now, so I was wondering if somebody could give me a hint on how to solve this problem. Are you still using lzma-utils, or have you moved on to xz-utils? I'm using app-arch/xz-utils. Which package owns your /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.*? (equery belongs foofile on Gentoo, dunno what is the equivalent on paludis) Acording to the output of `paludis --owner /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la` no package is the owner. I'm really lost right now... This happens when an ebuild doesn't remove packages as well as it installs them. revdep-rebuild should be telling you that the machine is clean except there are these extra files like /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la. equery belongs /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la tells you nothing owns it which means the original package isn't on the system anymore. Since we think /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la comes from lzma-utils we would use equiery files lzma-utils to determine whether this package provides it. I cannot do that as I don't have lzma-utils on my systems anymore. If you don't have lzma-utils on your system anymore then erase /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la by hand and run revdep-rebuild -ip again and see if it's clean. Hope this helps, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware-server performance
If you use the cfq scheduler (linux default) you might try turning off
low latency mode (introduced in 2.6.32):
Echo 0 /sys/class/block/device name/queue/iosched/low_latency
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_32
On 3/10/10, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote:
Recently I see bad performance with my vmware-server.
Loads of harddisk IO ... even bad on the RAID1, disks working all the
time (I hear them and iostat tells me).
Might have to do with kernel 2.6.33 and non-fitting vmware-modules?
I masked some modules back then because they didn't work, maybe they
would now.
Could someone tell me what combo works with gentoo-sources-2.6.33 ?
I currently have:
# eix vmware-mod
[I] app-emulation/vmware-modules
Available versions: 1.0.0.15-r1 1.0.0.15-r2 (~)1.0.0.24-r1{tbz2}
[m]1.0.0.25-r1 [m](~)1.0.0.26 {kernel_linux}
Installed versions: 1.0.0.24-r1{tbz2}(20:34:53
01.03.2010)(kernel_linux)
# eix vmware-ser
[I] app-emulation/vmware-server
Available versions: 1.0.8.126538!s 1.0.9.156507!s
(~)1.0.10.203137!s (~)2.0.1.156745-r3!s{tbz2} (~)2.0.2.203138!f!s{tbz2}
Installed versions: 2.0.2.203138!f!s{tbz2}(20:19:33 10.03.2010)
Thanks in advance, Stefan
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[gentoo-user] Re: how to git-bisect in a portage-compatible way ?
Le 10/03/10 17:08, walt a écrit : On 03/10/2010 03:03 AM, Nicolas Richard wrote: So the general question is : if I want to use git-bisect (I have never done that before, but today is a good time to try), It's a great tool and easy to use once you've learned the basic steps. You can ask here if you need help with it. I have to agree, it's quite a nice tool. Unfortunately the bug is a bit unpredictable (random crash which requires a reboot) and I found out that the version I thought was good (2.4.11) was in fact bad, and that I probably had been lucky not to encounter a crash for some days. Moreover, releases of libdrm prior to 2.4.11 are incompatible with my current xf86-xorg-intel (while writing this and looking at gitk, I notice that there are a few commits which should be compatible. I'll try these later.) What is weird is that if I use older versions, I feel it crashes less often than with new versions. I have in mind two things two try: * bisecting another package, e.g. xf86-xorg-intel or even the kernel. * instead of trying to find a commit which does not have the bug, find one which has a related but different bug. I mean, the crash is not always the same, sometimes I can still access the console, sometimes I just have to reboot, sometimes the kernel crashes too... maybe I can find a commit for which the bug behaves differently. Let me stop being off topic for a few seconds, and ask a real question about git-bisect : imagine there are two bugs : bug A is a known bug, present in version 2.4.11 but corrected in 2.4.18, and bug B is another bug which I'm trying to bisect. Problem : they have the same effect (let's say : a crash) and I want to fix bug A because it might hide bug B. Assuming that the patch which fixes bug A can be applied to the files of versions 2.4.11-2.4.18, is it possible to bisect these modified versions ? What I can imagine is : do a normal git-bisect session, but each time apply the patch before ./configure'ing. That sounds ok, but is it ? And if yes, what's the correct way to tell git to put the changes induced by one commit on the current head ? (I hope I'm being clear and not mixing the terms, here). When you configure the git test package, use the --prefix=/usr/local flag so that the test library gets installed in /usr/local/lib, and /usr/local/include, etc. I followed your advice (/usr/local is actually the default location for libdrm) and it worked quite nice because it is easy to track the files installed by the package within /usr/local... maybe this is not true for more complicated packages ? Then, to test the new library, just change the /usr/lib/libdrm symlink to point at /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.whatever. Actually, it seems that the system first looks in /usr/local/lib before /usr/lib, so it was probably unnecessary to modify the symlinks (noticed it at the end). -- Nico.
Re: [gentoo-user] stop eth0 from starting at boot
I modified the RC_PLUG_SERVICES like this: RC_PLUG_SERVICES=net.ra0 !net.eth0 This appears to have worked perfectly! net.eth0 does not start at boot at all. Thanks so much! On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:53:00 -0600, Dale wrote: This is a common problem. I am on baselayout 1 so if you are on baselayout 2, this may not help. In /etc/conf.d/rc file, add this line or edit the line you already have: RC_PLUG_SERVICES=net.wlan !net.eth* In baselayout-2 this is set in /etc/rc.conf. I use rc_hotplug=!net.* to let all interfaces be handled by Wicd. -- Neil Bothwick All generalizations are false, including this one.
[gentoo-user] About mount with user rw
I've done this before but have lost my notes about I guess. I want to mount a device /dev/hdd7 so that my users can read/write freely there. This line, does not do it: grep hdd7 /etc/fstab /dev/hdd7 /home/reader/spool reiserfs noatime,exec,users,rw 0 2 (using the singular `user' didn't help either. What is the syntax I need?
Re: [gentoo-user] About mount with user rw
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've done this before but have lost my notes about I guess. I want to mount a device /dev/hdd7 so that my users can read/write freely there. This line, does not do it: grep hdd7 /etc/fstab /dev/hdd7 /home/reader/spool reiserfs noatime,exec,users,rw 0 2 (using the singular `user' didn't help either. What is the syntax I need? Are the permissions set on /home/reader/spool (when mounted) so that the users can read and write to it?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: Dale, you brave, brave man, are you really using KDE4 now? I am in KDE4. I still have KDE3 installed tho. Thing is, I'm still using the same programs I was in KDE3. Dolphin looks nice and all but I can't use it as root at all. Huh? No problem here. OT: does anyone know about dolphin somehow accessing all files it shows? I see this on a system that uses dolphin to browse remote files via the fish protocol. Previews are not enabled, but all the files are accessed, which means it takes about one hour until the directory is shown, because all files are being retrieved from a SAM-FS server. Maybe it is reading the magic number for each file? I will try konqueror now. This is what I am talking about. Dolphin will browse through directories but as soon as I click to open a text file, it gives a error. I have discussed this on the kde list and it is a known problem. One even said the code was written to prevent that but others say it is just not fixed yet. So, I still use Konqueror just like I did in KDE 3. So, I went back to Konqueror to edit config files and such. I don't use some of the programs that you are using so I don't have the same issues. I use smplayer to do movies or CDs. It doesn't care what DE you use. Ah, smplayer. Did not think about that. It was not important anyway - I had ripped a CD with K3b, and wondered why two tracks were swapped. BTW, what do you use for ripping? K3b is okay, but it does not remember changes like output path or file naming, I have to set this again for every CD. But smplayer does not recognise the CD either. I wonder why I do not have a /dev/cdrom device - only /dev/cdrom3, /dev/cdrw3, /dev/dvd3 and /dev/dvdrw3, all symlinking to /dev/sr0. I have used tkdvd to burn a DVD. It ain't pretty but it worked. ;-) I do like the looks of KDE4. I still think they dropped KDE3 to soon. KDE4 will get there but it is still having issues many months after dropping KDE3. Bad thing is, I don't think they care about the users they left hanging in the wind. I also think KDE3 was dropped too soon. While KDE4 is usable now for most things, it still has too many bugs, and a while ago it had many many more, while development and bug fixing of KDE3 was already stopped. On the other hand, manpower is limited, and I understand the decision to focus on the new project rather than doing stuff for the old one that soon noone will be using. KDE 3.5 is still there. I don't know about the security issues, would it be unsafe now to use KDE 3.5? I remember something about kpfd being masked due to security holes. Wonko I understand the second hand but it still leaves the users out in the cold. I'm hoping the release of KDE 5 will be handled better but I'm not holding my breath. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] About mount with user rw
On Thursday 11 March 2010 21:23:43 Harry Putnam wrote: I've done this before but have lost my notes about I guess. I want to mount a device /dev/hdd7 so that my users can read/write freely there. This line, does not do it: grep hdd7 /etc/fstab /dev/hdd7 /home/reader/spool reiserfs noatime,exec,users,rw 0 2 (using the singular `user' didn't help either. What is the syntax I need? You can't. It's a reiserfs file system, it has Unix owners and permissions. It doe snot matter how you mount it, those permissions will be used. If the user does not have permissions, then they can't use it. Same as / By your post I can see you are confused with vfat and ntfs. Not being Unix filesystems, the kernel has to fudge something to use, and you can make them whatever you want. Stop fooling around with fstab and mount options. The commands you want are chown and chmod -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: About mount with user rw
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've done this before but have lost my notes about I guess. I want to mount a device /dev/hdd7 so that my users can read/write freely there. This line, does not do it: grep hdd7 /etc/fstab /dev/hdd7 /home/reader/spool reiserfs noatime,exec,users,rw 0 2 (using the singular `user' didn't help either. What is the syntax I need? Are the permissions set on /home/reader/spool (when mounted) so that the users can read and write to it? ahhh no. And I see doing that cures the problem, but how do I make this happen at every mount... is there syntax for fstab in the options column that take care of that or does it have to be scripted or something to get it to happen with every mount. Maybe in the local.start init script. But I was under the impression this could be done with mount options.
[gentoo-user] Re: About mount with user rw
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Stop fooling around with fstab and mount options. The commands you want are chown and chmod Got ya ... thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: About mount with user rw
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I've done this before but have lost my notes about I guess. I want to mount a device /dev/hdd7 so that my users can read/write freely there. This line, does not do it: grep hdd7 /etc/fstab /dev/hdd7 /home/reader/spool reiserfs noatime,exec,users,rw 0 2 (using the singular `user' didn't help either. What is the syntax I need? Are the permissions set on /home/reader/spool (when mounted) so that the users can read and write to it? ahhh no. And I see doing that cures the problem, but how do I make this happen at every mount... is there syntax for fstab in the options column that take care of that or does it have to be scripted or something to get it to happen with every mount. Maybe in the local.start init script. But I was under the impression this could be done with mount options. It should survive unmount and remount. The mount options should only control who is allowed to mount it, not who can use it once it is mounted. (Filesystems that don't understand the concept of permissions might have some mount option to force a certain umask but normal linux filesystems don't need it)
Re: [gentoo-user] Only two people in the gentoo world is having this problem?
On 3/11/10, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: to determine whether this package provides it. I cannot do that as I don't have lzma-utils on my systems anymore. Well, that can be sort of done with, e.g.: ebuild /usr/portage/app-arch/lzma-utils/lzma-utils-4.32.7.ebuild install It will run emerge phases until the system creates the installation image, but it won't merge the files into their proper locations in the file system. Listing files in the image directory shows all the five liblzmadec.* files (or symlinks) that would get installed. If you don't have lzma-utils on your system anymore then erase /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la by hand and run revdep-rebuild -ip again and see if it's clean. Yes, this whole issue smells like an overblown orphaned .la-file issue. Package manager cannot help much with such, and IMHO it's not a bug (well maybe in the package manager, but let's not start that flamewar ;) ). Anyway, if it were me I'd nuke the file in a heartbeat, but if OP is too timid for that, he can also quarantine the file first, i.e., move it to some other path where it won't cause trouble (and then delete later). Also, (from the bug) his libarchive.la seems to still list the .la, so he should re-emerge libarchive after moving away the orphaned .la-file (or use lafilefixer?). Still, there is something funny with paludis, as so many people using it seem to have so many problems with orphaned libtool archive files. Ahem, even the warning from exherbo front page is gone nowadays. Is it production quality now? o.O -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Only two people in the gentoo world is having this problem?
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/11/10, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: to determine whether this package provides it. I cannot do that as I don't have lzma-utils on my systems anymore. Well, that can be sort of done with, e.g.: ebuild /usr/portage/app-arch/lzma-utils/lzma-utils-4.32.7.ebuild install It will run emerge phases until the system creates the installation image, but it won't merge the files into their proper locations in the file system. Listing files in the image directory shows all the five liblzmadec.* files (or symlinks) that would get installed. If you don't have lzma-utils on your system anymore then erase /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la by hand and run revdep-rebuild -ip again and see if it's clean. Yes, this whole issue smells like an overblown orphaned .la-file issue. Package manager cannot help much with such, and IMHO it's not a bug (well maybe in the package manager, but let's not start that flamewar ;) ). Anyway, if it were me I'd nuke the file in a heartbeat, but if OP is too timid for that, he can also quarantine the file first, i.e., move it to some other path where it won't cause trouble (and then delete later). Also, (from the bug) his libarchive.la seems to still list the .la, so he should re-emerge libarchive after moving away the orphaned .la-file (or use lafilefixer?). Still, there is something funny with paludis, as so many people using it seem to have so many problems with orphaned libtool archive files. Ahem, even the warning from exherbo front page is gone nowadays. Is it production quality now? o.O -- Arttu V. Hi Arttu, I agree with pretty much everything you say although I don't know anything about plaudis so nothing at all to say about that. I think the OP could also do equery depends /usr/lib64/liblzmadec.la and if that shows nothing is depending on it then it's certainly an orphaned file and can be deleted. (Or safely moved...) I went through a period maybe 3-6 months ago where it seems I had a dozen of these orphaned files on all my systems. I cleaned them up, ran emerge -DuN world revdep-rebuild -i eix-test-obsolete -d and have been very clean since. Anyway, I do think it's a really big deal. He'll work his way through it. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: [solved] Problem with make oldconfig 2.6.30-8 == 2.6.31
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 01:55:30PM +, Mick wrote With regards to your kernel panic I suspect an error in the .config file you copied over. Do you keep a copy both in /usr/src/linux-gentoo-XXX/ and in /boot? If yes then copy over your .config from a different location this time, otherwise you'll have to go about it through the manual method. Thanks. It looks like you were right about the file being corrupt. I ran zcat /proc/config.gz .config and then make oldconfig. Things went smoothly. Unlike the previous run, oldconfig did *NOT* generate any error/warning messages. There were only a few items brought up by oldconfig, mostly new device drivers. The build and reboot went smoothly, and now I'm... [d531][waltdnes][~] uname -sr Linux 2.6.31-gentoo-r10 I'll follow my usual routine and wait a week or 2. Unless I run into problems, I'll promote 2.6.31-r10 to production then. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] Re: how to git-bisect in a portage-compatible way ?
On 03/11/2010 07:54 AM, Nicolas Richard wrote: Le 10/03/10 17:08, walt a écrit : On 03/10/2010 03:03 AM, Nicolas Richard wrote: So the general question is : if I want to use git-bisect (I have never done that before, but today is a good time to try), It's a great tool and easy to use once you've learned the basic steps. You can ask here if you need help with it. Let me stop being off topic for a few seconds, and ask a real question about git-bisect : imagine there are two bugs : bug A is a known bug, present in version 2.4.11 but corrected in 2.4.18, and bug B is another bug which I'm trying to bisect. Problem : they have the same effect (let's say : a crash) and I want to fix bug A because it might hide bug B. Assuming that the patch which fixes bug A can be applied to the files of versions 2.4.11-2.4.18, is it possible to bisect these modified versions ? What I can imagine is : do a normal git-bisect session, but each time apply the patch before ./configure'ing. That sounds ok, but is it ? I seem to recall doing something like that once, but I can't remember how it turned out :o) Not every file in your git working directory is over- written with each 'good' or 'bad' bisect step, so your patch may possibly be rejected as 'reversed' on some iterations of bisect. That is to be expected. And if yes, what's the correct way to tell git to put the changes induced by one commit on the current head ? (I hope I'm being clear and not mixing the terms, here). Hm. I'm not sure what you are asking. I'm not a developer but I do often apply patches from developers and I try to avoid making commits by accident because then I've made a permanent and unwanted change to my local copy of the remote git repo. For example, if I want to apply a bugfix from 2.4.18 to a working copy of 2.4.11, I would first check out a copy of 2.4.18 and then generate a patch file by using 'git diff -p hexadecimal commit number test.patch' (assuming that you know the commit number of the bugfix, of course). Then check out a working copy of 2.4.11 and apply test.patch to it. The patch may or may not succeed, of course. If the two versions are far enough apart in time, such patches will fail quite often. That's when you start contacting the upstream devs to get their advice/flames. When you are done fiddling with patches you can do 'git reset --hard' to restore a pristine working copy of the git repo. An alternate method is to create a new branch for all your fiddling, e.g. 'git branch junk' and then git checkout 2.4.11, or whatever, and then delete 'junk' when you're finished with your fiddling. I seem to recall that real devs use that method, but I could be mistaken. Actually, it seems that the system first looks in /usr/local/lib before /usr/lib, so it was probably unnecessary to modify the symlinks (noticed it at the end). Good observation. I see that /usr/local is the top line in /etc/ld.so.conf, which I'd forgotten, assuming I ever knew it.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
100311 Alex Schuster wrote: Philip Webb writes: Konsole has lost its 'fixed GNU' font, which now calls up something nasty (yes, I know there's an entry in the list, but it's a different font). I've switched to Xterm for Mutt may junk Konsole for user terminal too. I noticed this when I started KDE 4.4 for the first time. It looked quite different a bit ugly, but somehow I got used to it. Further experience showed that Xterm's standard font doesn't do Unicode mouse-scroll doesn't work in Most etc, so I've gone back to Konsole settled on a tolerable font in 'fixed misc' at size 13 . I don't use gwenview much. When I used it browsing many photos and rotating lots of them, it always crashed after a while, after it hogged very much of my memory. Just retried that, problem's gone. Hooray! Yes, Gwenview has been quite useable for some time now the KDE 4 version is a bit of an improvement generally. Useable alternatives are Thunar (icon view) Feh (thumbnail view) to browse around Feh (image view) to look at the actual pictures. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[gentoo-user] how can i get multiple chromium window on kde 4.4?
hi, i can only start one chromium window. if i try to drag one tab off the main window, i got the follow error message: The program 'chrome' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. looks like this feature is not complete yet...do we have other way to do this? having too many tabs in one window is terrible. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
[gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.ra0 is not bringing up the interface?
I have added /etc/init.d/net.ra0 (my wireless interface is called ra0 instead of wlan0) to the default runlevel. It starts the script at boot, but it acts like the device has not been brought up(i.e. with ifconfig ra0 up). For instance the boot log will say: * Starting ra0 * Configuring wireless network for ra0 Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down Error for wireless request Set essid (8B1A) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down And so on and so on for all the different settings, until it finally gives up. I can do ifconfig ra0 up, iwconfig ra0 essid any, dhcpcd ra0 and connect to the network just fine! Of course I would like it to start at boot however. Any ideas? The init script is broken? The actual init script is very complicated, and even if it were easy to just add ifconfig ra0 up somewhere to it, I'm not sure if that's the best solution. Thanks, -Tony
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/net.ra0 is not bringing up the interface?
On Friday 12 March 2010 06:12:55 Tony Miller wrote: I have added /etc/init.d/net.ra0 (my wireless interface is called ra0 instead of wlan0) to the default runlevel. It starts the script at boot, but it acts like the device has not been brought up(i.e. with ifconfig ra0 up). For instance the boot log will say: * Starting ra0 * Configuring wireless network for ra0 Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down Error for wireless request Set encode (8B2A) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down Error for wireless request Set essid (8B1A) : SET failed on device ra0; Network is down And so on and so on for all the different settings, until it finally gives up. I can do ifconfig ra0 up, iwconfig ra0 essid any, dhcpcd ra0 and connect to the network just fine! Of course I would like it to start at boot however. Any ideas? The init script is broken? The actual init script is very complicated, and even if it were easy to just add ifconfig ra0 up somewhere to it, I'm not sure if that's the best solution. Look at /etc/conf.d/wireless.example to see how you are meant to configure /etc/conf.d/net to manage your wireless card either using iwconfig, or using wpa_supplicant. You probably need something like: sleep_scan_ra0=3 #where 3 is three seconds HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE? Get me out of here!
On Friday 12 March 2010 01:59:19 Philip Webb wrote: Further experience showed that Xterm's standard font doesn't do Unicode mouse-scroll doesn't work in Most etc, so I've gone back to Konsole settled on a tolerable font in 'fixed misc' at size 13 . I haven't been able to configure either xterm or aterm/rxvt to be able to scroll with the mouse inside less/most/man pages etc. I think that this is a konsole feature only - please share if anyone has found a way of doing this in other than konsole terminals. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
