Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage not empty?

2010-06-09 Thread Mick
On 8 June 2010 23:54, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 06/08/2010 11:42 AM, Mick wrote:

 It seems that the fs was well and truly corrupted.  :-(
 Is reiser4 prone to corruption?

 I know zero about reiserfs, so I'm uniquely qualified to make suggestions :)

 Did you do any/some/all of the steps mentioned here?:

 http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/repairing-reiserfs-file-system-with-reiserfsck.html

 I'd hope that the reiser utilities might give you some useful error
 messages.

Thanks I used reiser4progs to check and repair the fs.  The weird
thing is that I had to repeat this on the /var partition, after I
zero'ed it, reformatted it and reinstalled gentoo on it.   O_O

How is it possible that the same directory/file gets corrupted again
after a reinstall?  Could it be that gcc has some stealth anti-reiser4
fs code that borks it every time!  I am really confused with this
problem.

PS.  Any idea how I could set the partition label to var without
damaging the data on it?  I forgot to do that at the time I formatted
it ...
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Joomla

2010-06-09 Thread Mick
On 9 June 2010 00:06, sean tech.j...@myfairpoint.net wrote:
 Is anyone able to point me at a definitive write-up of Joomla on Gentoo
 (amd64)?

 Any recommend use flags or other tips from those who have set this up to
 get the best from this package?

I can't answer directly your question, but unless you have a
particular reason to use Joomla, I would strongly recommend to give
Drupal a try.  It is a more powerful CMS with more modules than
Joomla.
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Joomla

2010-06-09 Thread Matthias Fechner

Hi Mick,

Am 09.06.10 08:05, schrieb Mick:

I can't answer directly your question, but unless you have a
particular reason to use Joomla, I would strongly recommend to give
Drupal a try.  It is a more powerful CMS with more modules than
Joomla.
   


yes you are right with your comment, I currently use joomla and tried to 
switch to drupal, but an essential modul, docman, is not available for 
drupal.
If you do not need a tool that manages you download I would recommend 
drupal too.


Matthias

--
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better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. 
So far, the universe is winning. -- Rich Cook




Re: [gentoo-user] Remotely working on Gentoo systems

2010-06-09 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 02:04:28 Jake Moe wrote:
 On 09/06/10 09:58, Alex Schuster wrote:
  Jake Moe writes:
  j...@aus10224 ~ $ ssh -Y jhb5970
  Password:
  Last login: Wed Jun  9 08:05:09 EST 2010 from 192.168.0.114 on pts/0
  j...@jhb5970 ~ $ firefox
  Error: no display specified
  j...@jhb5970 ~ $ konqueror
  konqueror: cannot connect to X server
  j...@jhb5970 ~ $
 
  Try echo $DISPLAY, this should give something like localhost:10.0. If
  it is empty, the forwarding did not work. I guess you have to set
  X11Forwarding to yes in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on jhb5970, and restart ssh
  with /etc/init.d/sshd restart. /etc/init.d/sshd reload should also work.
 
  Wonko
 
 Excellent, thanks for that.  I had read about that config option, but it
 sounded like it only needed to be set if you wanted all ssh connections
 globally to have X11Forwarding turned on, or you use ssh -Y for a single
 connection.
 
 Jake Moe
 

The SSH-server needs to support it.
If the SSH-server does not have this option enabled (in the sshd_config), the 
-Y flag does not work when connecting to that server.

If you set the flag in the client-configuration (ssh_config, note, no 'D') then 
it will add the '-Y' option by default to all outgoing ssh-connection 
attempts.

Hope this makes sense?

--
Joost Roeleveld



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD-Container ?

2010-06-09 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On  8 Jun, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am using k3b to burn dvds/cds.
 As most programs of this kind, k3b can /copy/ but not
 /move/ data to a DVD.
 Therefore, when trying to find tose files, which exactly
 sum up to the size of a DVD (by the way: I know DVD-
 sizes from a little below 4.3 GB to over 4.7GB...what is
 the truth?) I end up with a selected file here and another
 one there. After the DVD is finished it is --hrmm-- not
 efficient to find those in the related directories to
 remove them after a successful copy.
 Now I am looking of something like a virtual DVD to
 which I can /move/ and move back files. The DVD
 should report no space left on device exactly at
 the same point when a real DVD is filled.
 
 I thought of one extra partition of the same size a DVD
 but since the filesystems will occupy different amount
 of space...
 
 On the other hand: A iso-image-file on the harddisk would
 be nice, but that filesystem isn't made for moving files
 back and forth...
 
 Any ideas to solve this???

Different idea: have a look at
app-cdr/gaffitter
It approximates the so-called knapsack problem of optimal packing.
You can then use this information to burn and afterwards delete the
files.
Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp/portage not empty?

2010-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 06:03:51 +, Mick wrote:

 Thanks I used reiser4progs to check and repair the fs.  The weird
 thing is that I had to repeat this on the /var partition, after I
 zero'ed it, reformatted it and reinstalled gentoo on it.   O_O
 
 How is it possible that the same directory/file gets corrupted again
 after a reinstall? 

The first thing I'd do it set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere less important
than /var. You don't want to risk corrupting system files while sorting
this out. It would also show whether the problem was with an ebuild or
the filesystem. Use a tmpfs filesystem if you have the memory.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Joomla

2010-06-09 Thread sean
On 06/09/2010 02:14 AM, Matthias Fechner wrote:
 Hi Mick,
 
 Am 09.06.10 08:05, schrieb Mick:
 I can't answer directly your question, but unless you have a
 particular reason to use Joomla, I would strongly recommend to give
 Drupal a try.  It is a more powerful CMS with more modules than
 Joomla.

 
 yes you are right with your comment, I currently use joomla and tried to
 switch to drupal, but an essential modul, docman, is not available for
 drupal.
 If you do not need a tool that manages you download I would recommend
 drupal too.
 
 Matthias
 

I am only interested because it is being implemented where I work and
want to try to become familiar with Joomla a bit.



[gentoo-user] Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Jacques Montier
Hi all,

After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
installed python-2.6.4-r1
As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
packages to the list as :
app-office/openoffice-bin:0
dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
...

The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid atom !
Where does that -MERGING- come from ?
Any idea about it ?

Thank you for your help.

Cheers,

--
Jacques 





[gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread walt

On 06/09/2010 03:32 AM, Jacques Montier wrote:

Hi all,

After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
installed python-2.6.4-r1
As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
packages to the list as :
app-office/openoffice-bin:0
dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
...

The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid atom !
Where does that -MERGING- come from ?


Which version of python are you actually using now?  AFAIK the portage utilities
don't yet work correctly if you are using python-3.





Re: [gentoo-user] Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:05 +0200, Jacques Montier wrote:

 The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
 atom ! Where does that -MERGING- come from ?

It's an orphaned file left in /var/db/pkg by an aborted emerge attempt.
Delete it and try again.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 09/06/2010 15:17, walt a gentiment tapote:
 On 06/09/2010 03:32 AM, Jacques Montier wrote:
 Hi all,

 After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
 installed python-2.6.4-r1
 As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
 packages to the list as :
 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
 ...

 The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
 atom !
 Where does that -MERGING- come from ?

 Which version of python are you actually using now?  AFAIK the portage
 utilities
 don't yet work correctly if you are using python-3.




I use python2.6, but both 2.6 and 3.1 are installed.

Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Dale

Jacques Montier wrote:

Le 09/06/2010 15:17, walt a gentiment tapote:
   

On 06/09/2010 03:32 AM, Jacques Montier wrote:
 

Hi all,

After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
installed python-2.6.4-r1
As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
packages to the list as :
app-office/openoffice-bin:0
dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
...

The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
atom !
Where does that -MERGING- come from ?
   

Which version of python are you actually using now?  AFAIK the portage
utilities
don't yet work correctly if you are using python-3.




 

I use python2.6, but both 2.6 and 3.1 are installed.

Jacques

   


Just for the record, installing python 3.1 is fine but DON'T switch to 
it.  Very little works with it right now.  There was a HUGE discussion 
about this on -dev.  It's confusing because python 3.1 is stable but you 
can't switch to it yet since not much is ready for it.


The best thing to do is to mask python 3.1 until you can actually switch 
to it.  That is what most devs are recommending.  If you don't have 
something that has to have it, mask it for now.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Jacques Montier


--
Jacques 

Site :  http://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
Le 09/06/2010 16:26, Dale a gentiment tapote:
 Jacques Montier wrote:
 Le 09/06/2010 15:17, walt a gentiment tapote:
   
 On 06/09/2010 03:32 AM, Jacques Montier wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
 installed python-2.6.4-r1
 As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
 packages to the list as :
 app-office/openoffice-bin:0
 dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
 ...

 The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
 atom !
 Where does that -MERGING- come from ?

 Which version of python are you actually using now?  AFAIK the portage
 utilities
 don't yet work correctly if you are using python-3.




  
 I use python2.6, but both 2.6 and 3.1 are installed.

 Jacques



 Just for the record, installing python 3.1 is fine but DON'T switch to
 it.  Very little works with it right now.  There was a HUGE discussion
 about this on -dev.  It's confusing because python 3.1 is stable but
 you can't switch to it yet since not much is ready for it.

 The best thing to do is to mask python 3.1 until you can actually
 switch to it.  That is what most devs are recommending.  If you don't
 have something that has to have it, mask it for now.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


with eselect python list, i get this :
# Available Python interpreters:
  [1]   python2.6 *
  [2]   python3.1
So python2.6 is the main active version ; therefore is it necessary to
mask it ?

Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 09/06/2010 15:33, Neil Bothwick a gentiment tapote:
 On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:32:05 +0200, Jacques Montier wrote:

   
 The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
 atom ! Where does that -MERGING- come from ?
 
 It's an orphaned file left in /var/db/pkg by an aborted emerge attempt.
 Delete it and try again.
   
Yes ! it works !

thanks a lot !

Jacques



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Dale

Jacques Montier wrote:


--
Jacques

Site :  http://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/
Le 09/06/2010 16:26, Dale a gentiment tapote:
   

Jacques Montier wrote:
 

Le 09/06/2010 15:17, walt a gentiment tapote:

   

On 06/09/2010 03:32 AM, Jacques Montier wrote:

 

Hi all,

After upgrading world, i installed python-3.1.2-r3 with already
installed python-2.6.4-r1
As recommended, i ran python-updater ; so python-updater added some
packages to the list as :
app-office/openoffice-bin:0
dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5
...

The output is an error about  dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5 as invalid
atom !
Where does that -MERGING- come from ?

   

Which version of python are you actually using now?  AFAIK the portage
utilities
don't yet work correctly if you are using python-3.





 

I use python2.6, but both 2.6 and 3.1 are installed.

Jacques


   

Just for the record, installing python 3.1 is fine but DON'T switch to
it.  Very little works with it right now.  There was a HUGE discussion
about this on -dev.  It's confusing because python 3.1 is stable but
you can't switch to it yet since not much is ready for it.

The best thing to do is to mask python 3.1 until you can actually
switch to it.  That is what most devs are recommending.  If you don't
have something that has to have it, mask it for now.

Dale

:-)  :-)


 

with eselect python list, i get this :
# Available Python interpreters:
   [1]   python2.6 *
   [2]   python3.1
So python2.6 is the main active version ; therefore is it necessary to
mask it ?

Jacques

   


If I recall correctly, there are a few programs that can run with python 
3.  Thing is, there are still a LOT of them that can't run with it and 
must have python 2.  If you switch to python 3, you will have a mess on 
your hands.  If nothing actually requires python 3, mask it for now.  It 
will be a while before you will have to have it anyway.  When that time 
comes, portage will tell you that some package that must have python 3 
only is masked.  Then you can remove the mask, install it and switch to it.


This is just to save you some issues later on.  Trying to use python 3 
right now is not going to work.  Wait until things are able to use and 
go through the update process then and only have to do it once.


That's my $0.02 worth.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-09 11:08 AM, Dale wrote:
 If I recall correctly, there are a few programs that can run with
 python 3. Thing is, there are still a LOT of them that can't run with
 it and must have python 2. If you switch to python 3, you will have a
 mess on your hands. If nothing actually requires python 3, mask it
 for now. It will be a while before you will have to have it anyway.
 When that time comes, portage will tell you that some package that
 must have python 3 only is masked. Then you can remove the mask,
 install it and switch to it.
 
 This is just to save you some issues later on. Trying to use python
 3 right now is not going to work. Wait until things are able to use
 and go through the update process then and only have to do it once.
 
 That's my $0.02 worth.

So... for those of use who have already installed it (and thankfully I
did actually read the notes about not switching to it), should me
uninstall it then mask it? Or just leave it alone? I'm guessing it won't
hurt anything, again as long as I don't stupidly switch to it?



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD-Container ?

2010-06-09 Thread meino . cramer


Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de [10-06-09 17:14]:
 On  8 Jun, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  
  Hi,
  
  I am using k3b to burn dvds/cds.
  As most programs of this kind, k3b can /copy/ but not
  /move/ data to a DVD.
  Therefore, when trying to find tose files, which exactly
  sum up to the size of a DVD (by the way: I know DVD-
  sizes from a little below 4.3 GB to over 4.7GB...what is
  the truth?) I end up with a selected file here and another
  one there. After the DVD is finished it is --hrmm-- not
  efficient to find those in the related directories to
  remove them after a successful copy.
  Now I am looking of something like a virtual DVD to
  which I can /move/ and move back files. The DVD
  should report no space left on device exactly at
  the same point when a real DVD is filled.
  
  I thought of one extra partition of the same size a DVD
  but since the filesystems will occupy different amount
  of space...
  
  On the other hand: A iso-image-file on the harddisk would
  be nice, but that filesystem isn't made for moving files
  back and forth...
  
  Any ideas to solve this???
 
 Different idea: have a look at
 app-cdr/gaffitter
 It approximates the so-called knapsack problem of optimal packing.
 You can then use this information to burn and afterwards delete the
 files.
 Helmut.
 
 -- 
 Helmut Jarausch
 
 Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
 RWTH - Aachen University
 D 52056 Aachen, Germany
 


Hi Helmut,

sounds interesting, but seems the task to find the 
files afterwards for deletion remains.
A move into a container would much more simpler
and straight forward.
Beside that: The knapsack problem is very interesting
and I will check the application regardless whether it
will help me burning dvds/cdroms or not ;)

Best regards,
mcc


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Tanstaafl writes:

 So... for those of use who have already installed it (and thankfully I
 did actually read the notes about not switching to it), should me
 uninstall it then mask it? Or just leave it alone?

For the sake of simplicity, I just leave it alone.

 I'm guessing it
 won't hurt anything, again as long as I don't stupidly switch to it?

Right.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:21:17 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:

  So... for those of use who have already installed it (and thankfully I
  did actually read the notes about not switching to it), should me
  uninstall it then mask it? Or just leave it alone?  
 
 For the sake of simplicity, I just leave it alone.

Agreed

  I'm guessing it
  won't hurt anything, again as long as I don't stupidly switch to it?  
 
 Right.

And if a script specifically wants Python 3, it is there for it to use.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

CPU: (n.) acronym for Central Purging Unit. A device which discards or
distorts data sent to it, sometimes returning more data and sometimes
merely over-heating.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD-Container ?

2010-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:49:13 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

 sounds interesting, but seems the task to find the 
 files afterwards for deletion remains.
 A move into a container would much more simpler
 and straight forward.

ISTR mkisofs has an option to report the size of the filesystem is will
create without actually creating it, which is much faster. So you could
copy the files to a temporary directory and use mkisofs instead of du/df
to check how much space is left, then delete the contents of the
directory when you have burned the DVD.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-06-09 12:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:21:17 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
 I'm guessing it won't hurt anything, again as long as I don't
 stupidly switch to it?

 Right.

 And if a script specifically wants Python 3, it is there for it to
 use.

Cool, thanks guys...



Re: [gentoo-user] Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 09.06.2010 12:32, schrieb Jacques Montier:
 Hi all,

Hi,

 dev-lang/-MERGING-python:2.5

I get this also sometimes when I have a emerge running and use
python-updater at the same time.

Then waiting for the emerge to stop normaly helps.

Greetings

Sebastian



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: DVD-Container ?

2010-06-09 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 08.06.2010 19:26, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:

 On the other hand: A iso-image-file on the harddisk would
 be nice, but that filesystem isn't made for moving files
 back and forth...

You could use udf both for the image-file and the dvd.

Greetings

Sebastian



[gentoo-user] Howto get rid of USE qt3support

2010-06-09 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
Hi,

there is a new qt and kde available, but it still has the annoying USE flag 
qt3support... is there a way to get rid of it? a lot of kde packages are 
complaining about qt3support and I don't want it.

qt3 left my system a couple of years ago!
so this is starting to get really annoying 8-(


Rudmer




Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get rid of USE qt3support

2010-06-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Rudmer van Dijk
rudmer.van.d...@casema.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 there is a new qt and kde available, but it still has the annoying USE flag
 qt3support... is there a way to get rid of it? a lot of kde packages are
 complaining about qt3support and I don't want it.

 qt3 left my system a couple of years ago!
 so this is starting to get really annoying 8-(

Hi,

I think qt3support enables Qt3-compatible APIs in Qt4, but I don't
believe it causes you to pull in any actual Qt3 packages. I think it
is mainly to ease transition from Qt3 API to Qt4 API for porters. (I
don't think Qt3 is even in portage anymore)



[gentoo-user] equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

I wanted to see which packages depend on x11-libs/qt-webkit, so I did:

  equery depends x11-libs/qt-webkit

I got lots of results; but almost none of them mention qt-webkit 
*anywhere* (except for one package: qtscriptgenerator).


I don't understand.  Why does it print all the rest?  Anyone can shed 
some light?



 * These packages depend on x11-libs/qt-webkit:
app-crypt/qca-2.0.2-r2 (x11-libs/qt-core:4[debug?])
app-misc/strigi-0.7.2 (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-dbus:4)
  (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-core:4)
  (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
app-text/poppler-0.12.4-r3 (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-core:4)
   (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
dev-cpp/eigen-2.0.10 (examples ? x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
 (examples ? x11-libs/qt-opengl:4)
dev-libs/libattica-0.1.2 (x11-libs/qt-core:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
dev-util/automoc-0.9.88 (x11-libs/qt-core:4)
dev-util/cmake-2.8.1-r2 (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
dev-util/subversion-1.6.11 (kde ? x11-libs/qt-core)
   (kde ? x11-libs/qt-dbus)
   (kde ? x11-libs/qt-gui)
games-engines/qtads- (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
media-libs/qimageblitz-0.0.4 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
media-sound/amarok-2.3.1 (x11-libs/qt-gui[accessibility])
 (x11-libs/qt-script)
 (mp3tunes ? x11-libs/qt-core[glib])
media-sound/lmms-4. (x11-libs/qt-core)
(x11-libs/qt-gui[accessibility])
(=x11-libs/qt-4.3.0:4[accessibility])
media-sound/mumble-1.2.2 (x11-libs/qt-core:4[ssl])
 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-opengl:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-sql:4[sqlite])
 (x11-libs/qt-svg:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns:4)
 (dbus ? x11-libs/qt-dbus:4)
media-video/smplayer-0.6.9 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
media-video/vlc-1.1. (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
 (qt4 ? x11-libs/qt-core:4)
net-misc/x2goclient-3.01.5 (x11-libs/qt-core:4)
   (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
   (x11-libs/qt-svg:4)
   (=x11-libs/qt-4.3:4)
x11-libs/qtscriptgenerator-0.1.0 (x11-libs/qt-dbus:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-opengl:4)
 (!kde ? x11-libs/qt-phonon:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-script:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-sql:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-svg:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-webkit:4)
 (x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns:4)
x11-themes/qtcurve-qt4-1.4.3 (x11-libs/qt-gui:4[dbus])
 (x11-libs/qt-svg:4)




[gentoo-user] Re: Howto get rid of USE qt3support

2010-06-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/09/2010 11:27 PM, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:

Hi,

there is a new qt and kde available, but it still has the annoying USE flag
qt3support... is there a way to get rid of it? a lot of kde packages are
complaining about qt3support and I don't want it.

qt3 left my system a couple of years ago!
so this is starting to get really annoying 8-(


What Paul said.  qt3support is needed by some Qt4 programs and it's not 
optional.  If a program needs it, there's no way around it.


But it's nothing you should be concerned about; qt3support is part of 
Qt4 itself.





Re: [gentoo-user] equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:52:55 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 I wanted to see which packages depend on x11-libs/qt-webkit, so I did:
 
equery depends x11-libs/qt-webkit
 
 I got lots of results; but almost none of them mention qt-webkit 
 *anywhere* (except for one package: qtscriptgenerator).

Try emerge --depclean -pv x11-libs/qt-webkit - it's far more dependable
than equery.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Howto get rid of USE qt3support

2010-06-09 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 06/09/2010 11:27 PM, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:
  Hi,
  
  there is a new qt and kde available, but it still has the annoying USE
  flag qt3support... is there a way to get rid of it? a lot of kde
  packages are complaining about qt3support and I don't want it.
  
  qt3 left my system a couple of years ago!
  so this is starting to get really annoying 8-(
 
 What Paul said.  qt3support is needed by some Qt4 programs and it's not
 optional.  If a program needs it, there's no way around it.
 
 But it's nothing you should be concerned about; qt3support is part of
 Qt4 itself.

ok, thanks.
it's just that it sounds so old and I'm running ~amd64... 
but since you have no control yourself why not de-USE it or make it a forced 
USE?


Rudmer



[gentoo-user] Re: Howto get rid of USE qt3support

2010-06-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/10/2010 01:17 AM, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:

On Wednesday 09 June 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 06/09/2010 11:27 PM, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:

Hi,

there is a new qt and kde available, but it still has the annoying USE
flag qt3support... is there a way to get rid of it? a lot of kde
packages are complaining about qt3support and I don't want it.

qt3 left my system a couple of years ago!
so this is starting to get really annoying 8-(


What Paul said.  qt3support is needed by some Qt4 programs and it's not
optional.  If a program needs it, there's no way around it.

But it's nothing you should be concerned about; qt3support is part of
Qt4 itself.


ok, thanks.
it's just that it sounds so old and I'm running ~amd64...
but since you have no control yourself why not de-USE it or make it a forced
USE?


I'm not sure.  My guess is that it's needed in order to trigger a 
rebuild and that it's not enough for a package to depend on 
x11-libs/qt-qt3support; the other qt-* libs must be rebuild.  I think :P





[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/10/2010 01:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

emerge --depclean -pv x11-libs/qt-webkit


Thanks for the tip!  Didn't know --depclean can be used for that. 
Compared to that:


  x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.3 pulled in by:
app-cdr/k3b--r1
app-text/kchmviewer-5.2
dev-python/PyQt4-4.7.3
kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4
kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.4.4
x11-libs/qtscriptgenerator-0.1.0

the equery output seems *way* off.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 On 06/10/2010 01:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 emerge --depclean -pv x11-libs/qt-webkit

 Thanks for the tip!  Didn't know --depclean can be used for that. Compared
 to that:

  x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.3 pulled in by:
app-cdr/k3b--r1
app-text/kchmviewer-5.2
dev-python/PyQt4-4.7.3
kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4
kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.4.4
x11-libs/qtscriptgenerator-0.1.0

 the equery output seems *way* off.

A third way of querying the reverse deps:
qdepends -Q qt-webkit

Which, ironically, provides different results than the other 2 methods
as well...

I have the exact same kind of results as you, and have no idea why.
I'm using portage-2.2_rc67, maybe if I were using stable portage these
things would all match? Maybe someone here can try and tell us. :)



[gentoo-user] Re: equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 06/10/2010 01:59 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote:

On 06/10/2010 01:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:


emerge --depclean -pv x11-libs/qt-webkit


Thanks for the tip!  Didn't know --depclean can be used for that. Compared
to that:

  x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.3 pulled in by:
app-cdr/k3b--r1
app-text/kchmviewer-5.2
dev-python/PyQt4-4.7.3
kde-base/kdelibs-4.4.4
kde-base/kdeplasma-addons-4.4.4
x11-libs/qtscriptgenerator-0.1.0

the equery output seems *way* off.


A third way of querying the reverse deps:
qdepends -Q qt-webkit

Which, ironically, provides different results than the other 2 methods
as well...

I have the exact same kind of results as you, and have no idea why.
I'm using portage-2.2_rc67, maybe if I were using stable portage these
things would all match? Maybe someone here can try and tell us. :)


I'm on stable portage, so nope.  It would be the same :P




[gentoo-user] What settings for nVidia G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] video card?

2010-06-09 Thread Walter Dnes
  I'm converting an older Dell E521 AMD K8 machine from XP to Gentoo.  I
intend to use it with an HDHomerun ATSC tuner, for recording and
playback.  I don't know if it supports AGP, but I am including...
*   AMD Opteron/Athlon64 on-CPU GART support
*   NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support
...in the kernel.

  I notice there are both nv and nvidia drivers available.  Which
one do I use?  Also, are there any special settings in xorg.conf to
watch for?

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: equery depends gives nonsense results

2010-06-09 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:59:08 -0500
schrieb Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com:

 On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
  On 06/10/2010 01:14 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
[...]
 
 I have the exact same kind of results as you, and have no idea why.
 I'm using portage-2.2_rc67, maybe if I were using stable portage these
 things would all match? Maybe someone here can try and tell us. :)

My results apparently contradict those from Nikos. I use stable gentoolkit and
portage:

$ equery depends qt-webkit
[ Searching for packages depending on qt-webkit... ]
app-cdr/k3b-1.91.0_rc2 (=x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.1:4[kde])
dev-python/PyQt4-4.7.3 (webkit? =x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2:4)
kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.5 (=x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.1:4[kde])
sci-geosciences/googleearth-5.1.3533.1731-r1 (x86  !qt-bundled?
=x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.5.3)

$ sudo emerge --depclean -pv qt-webkit
Password: 

Calculating dependencies... done!
  x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2-r1 pulled in by:
app-cdr/k3b-1.91.0_rc2
dev-python/PyQt4-4.7.3
kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.5

The emerge output corresponds to the equery results since I'm on amd64, so that
the googleearth dependency doesn't hold. The stable portage-utils however seems
to miss PyQt4:

$ qdepends -Q
qt-webkit
kde-base/kdelibs-4.3.5

HTH
-- 
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[gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel D Jones

eix gcc shows:

 Installed versions:  

4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp -altivec -
bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened -libffi -multilib -
multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla) 

4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp -
altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite -hardened -libffi -
multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)

Is there any reason to have both of these installed?  Is it safe to unmerge 
4.3.4?

-- 
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dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. - John Stuart Mill



Re: [gentoo-user] What settings for nVidia G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] video card?

2010-06-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Walter Dnes writes:

   I'm converting an older Dell E521 AMD K8 machine from XP to Gentoo. 
 I intend to use it with an HDHomerun ATSC tuner, for recording and
 playback.  I don't know if it supports AGP, but I am including... * 
  AMD Opteron/Athlon64 on-CPU GART support
 *   NVIDIA nForce/nForce2 chipset support
 ...in the kernel.
 
   I notice there are both nv and nvidia drivers available.  Which
 one do I use?  Also, are there any special settings in xorg.conf to
 watch for?

Have a look at the Gentoo Linux nVidia Guide:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed

2010-06-09 Thread Beau Henderson
I usually keep the last version of GCC around until I've managed to rebuild the entire world with 
the newer one, just in case. If you've run the tasks mentioned after the newer version was 
installed, it should probably be safe.


On 06/10/10 10:34, Daniel D Jones wrote:


eix gcc shows:

  Installed versions:

4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp -altivec -
bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened -libffi -multilib -
multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)

4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp -
altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite -hardened -libffi -
multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test -vanilla)

Is there any reason to have both of these installed?  Is it safe to unmerge
4.3.4?






Re: [gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed

2010-06-09 Thread Alex Schuster
Daniel D Jones writes:

 eix gcc shows:
 
  Installed versions:
 
 4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp
 -altivec - bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened
 -libffi -multilib - multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
 
 4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl
 openmp - altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite
 -hardened -libffi - multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++
 -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
 
 Is there any reason to have both of these installed?  Is it safe to
 unmerge 4.3.4?

Probably not. I would do an emerge -a --depclean. If nothing depends on 
the old gcc, it will be removed. Otherwise you get a message what has to 
be rebuilt, like I do:

weird ~ # emerge -a --depclean

 * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
 * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
 * be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
 * `emerge --noreplace atom`.  Packages that are listed in
 * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
 * depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
 * 
 * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
 * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
 * consequence, it is often necessary to run `emerge --update
 * --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean.

Calculating dependencies... done!
 Checking for lib consumers...
 Assigning files to packages...
 * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
 * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
 * packages that pulled them in.
 * 
 *   sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 pulled in by:
 * app-arch/rpm-4.4.6-r7 needs libgomp.so.1
 * dev-lang/R-2.11.1 needs libgfortran.so.3
 * dev-lang/gdl-0.9_rc4 needs libgomp.so.1
 * dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1 needs libgomp.so.1
 * kde-base/cantor-4.4.4 needs libgfortran.so.3
 * kde-base/libkdcraw-4.4.4 needs libgomp.so.1
 * media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.1.7 needs libgomp.so.1
 * media-sound/sox-14.3.1 needs libgomp.so.1
 * media-video/transcode-1.1.5-r1 needs libgomp.so.1
 * sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226-r1 needs libgfortran.so.3
 * sci-libs/fftw-3.2.2 needs libgomp.so.1
 * sci-libs/plplot-5.9.5 needs libgfortran.so.3
 * sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1 needs libgomp.so.1
 * 
 Adding lib providers to graph...

-
Calculating dependencies... done!
 No packages selected for removal by depclean
 To see reverse dependencies, use --verbose
Packages installed:   1678
Packages in world:373
Packages in system:   50
Required packages:1678
Number removed:   0

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed

2010-06-09 Thread William Kenworthy
Did you run fix_libtool_files.sh 4.3.4 after switching gcc versions
with gcc-config before trying depclean?

BillK



On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 03:05 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Daniel D Jones writes:
 
  eix gcc shows:
  
   Installed versions:
  
  4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp
  -altivec - bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened
  -libffi -multilib - multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++
  -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
  
  4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl
  openmp - altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite
  -hardened -libffi - multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++
  -objc-gc -test -vanilla)
  
  Is there any reason to have both of these installed?  Is it safe to
  unmerge 4.3.4?
 
 Probably not. I would do an emerge -a --depclean. If nothing depends on 
 the old gcc, it will be removed. Otherwise you get a message what has to 
 be rebuilt, like I do:
 
 weird ~ # emerge -a --depclean
 
  * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious
  * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always
  * be kept.  They can be manually added to this set with
  * `emerge --noreplace atom`.  Packages that are listed in
  * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by
  * depclean, even if they are part of the world set.
  * 
  * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages
  * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved.  As a
  * consequence, it is often necessary to run `emerge --update
  * --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean.
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
  Checking for lib consumers...
  Assigning files to packages...
  * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more
  * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the
  * packages that pulled them in.
  * 
  *   sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 pulled in by:
  * app-arch/rpm-4.4.6-r7 needs libgomp.so.1
  * dev-lang/R-2.11.1 needs libgfortran.so.3
  * dev-lang/gdl-0.9_rc4 needs libgomp.so.1
  * dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1 needs libgomp.so.1
  * kde-base/cantor-4.4.4 needs libgfortran.so.3
  * kde-base/libkdcraw-4.4.4 needs libgomp.so.1
  * media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.1.7 needs libgomp.so.1
  * media-sound/sox-14.3.1 needs libgomp.so.1
  * media-video/transcode-1.1.5-r1 needs libgomp.so.1
  * sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226-r1 needs libgfortran.so.3
  * sci-libs/fftw-3.2.2 needs libgomp.so.1
  * sci-libs/plplot-5.9.5 needs libgfortran.so.3
  * sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1 needs libgomp.so.1
  * 
  Adding lib providers to graph...  
   
 -
 Calculating dependencies... done!
  No packages selected for removal by depclean
  To see reverse dependencies, use --verbose
 Packages installed:   1678
 Packages in world:373
 Packages in system:   50
 Required packages:1678
 Number removed:   0
 
   Wonko
 

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Home in Perth!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange python-updater error

2010-06-09 Thread Dale

Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2010-06-09 12:28 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
   

On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:21:17 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
 

I'm guessing it won't hurt anything, again as long as I don't
stupidly switch to it?
 
   

Right.
   
   

And if a script specifically wants Python 3, it is there for it to
use.
 

Cool, thanks guys...

   


I agree with the other replies.  You have it there now so just let it 
be.  Just don't switch to it until there is a news item that says 
everything is ready.  I would even make sure everything depends on 
python 3 and nothing depends on python 2 before switching, just in case 
you have something that will break and cause you grief.


To think the devs didn't believe this was going to cause some confusion. 
 sighs 


Dale

:-)  :-)