Re: [gentoo-user] Regenerate portage cache from scratch following a big toe crash?
Hi, sitting in my chair that swivels, and guess what...my big toe is at __exactly__ the height of the main power button on my APC UPS, and darn if I don't hit it and power is gone! Back in the old days I had a trusty desktop 286 which sat on a piece of furniture at approximately knee level, with a very prominent reset button on the front panel... need I say more? Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file How does a big-toe guy regenerate the database emerge --sync normally keeps for my machine? First make sure all your filesystems are ok (touch /forcefsck and reboot). Second, I am not sure whether eix is complaining about the portage tree metadata (which is rsynced with the rest of the tree and not kept by emerge, so it shouldn't get corrupted) or its own cache. You can regenerate the former locally with emerge --metadata; if it doesn't help (and I don't think it will) I would try deleting the contents of /var/cache/eix and manually running eix-update. HTH, andrea
[gentoo-user] Access WDTLIVE Anonymous share from Linux
Hi, I have a very great stuff at home called WDTV Live Media server. This is a linux based machine offering some media services to the local network. Also offering external drives as shares unfortunately only with anonymous access I think because os security reasons this is disabled in linux (great idea :)), so I can access this external drive only from windows the error message when I try to use for example smbtree as the follows Server requested LANMAN password (share-level security) but 'client lanman auth' is disabled failed tcon_X with NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED If I issue the same command with the -N parameter it is working fine \\WDTVLIVE WDTV LIVE \\WDTVLIVE\IPC$ IPC Service (WDTV LIVE) \\WDTVLIVE\Laca_WD_Terra_1 Laca_WD_Terra_1 But it is not working neither from dolphin, smb4k, or from mount.cifs how can I instruct these programs to use anonymous login first or at least try to use it if authentication is not succeed My samba version is [I] net-fs/samba Available versions: 3.0.37!t 3.0.37-r1!t (~)3.2.15!t (~)3.2.15-r1!t 3.4.6!t 3.4.8!t (~)3.5.3!t (~)3.5.4!t [M](~)4.0.0_alpha11!m {acl addns ads aio async automount avahi caps cifsupcall +client cluster cups debug doc dso examples fam gnutls ipv6 kernel_linux ldap ldb +netapi oav pam (+)python quota quotas (+)readline selinux +server +smbclient smbsharemodes sqlite swat syslog threads +tools winbind} Installed versions: 3.5.4!t(11.52.56 2010-08-18)(acl addns ads aio avahi caps client cups fam ldap netapi pam readline server smbclient syslog winbind -cluster -debug -doc -examples -ldb -quota -smbsharemodes -swat) Homepage:http://www.samba.org/ Description: Samba Server component Thank you Laszlo
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on 8GB SSD
On 08/17/10 18:59, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Is a SSD capable of supporting gentoo ? That's a good idea ! You may be a pionneer ! Let's try... Not really. Gentoo is running fine on SSD and why wouldn't it. A data storage device does not care what data it stores. Gentoo is even running fine on CF. This is my first hand experience. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
2010/8/17 Maximilian Bräutigam max-br...@gmx.de You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* Distfiles are saved outside the root and I can afford to rebuild world. My main concern was losing (gentoo) config files, speaking of which, I remembered to back up /usr/src/linux/.config, and user folders. I have no solution how to bzip or gzip your backups or how to make a dvd backup, but I use app-backup/rsnapshot which uses rsync but implements an intelligent rotating system that is done daily, weekly, monthly, yearly according to your config. Of course you should store the backup on another physical hdd. By the way, since a new hdd of one TB is pretty cheap, think about running your gentoo in a software RAID. Guides: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86+raid+lvm2-quickinstall.xml http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Software_RAID_Install Thanks for the advices. I am adding rsnapshot to my list.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates there, so an theorectical highjacker cannot destroy my history) Using git for /etc is a great idea. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] =www-client/chromium-6.0.472.33 and h264
On 17 August 2010 23:42, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried 490, and it has the same problem: html5test.com reports no h264 support, and non-webm, html5 youtube videos don't work. I'll continue trying successive builds as they're posted... maybe 490 doesn't have that commit yet? Maybe not. I suggest poke around crbug.com and also keep an eye on the release blog. http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc and /var/lib you can recreate the system. Depending on space vs. time, you may prefer not to backup the gigabytes in /usr that can be recreated by portage (although saving /usr/local is a good idea). By the way, since a new hdd of one TB is pretty cheap, think about running your gentoo in a software RAID. Guides: RAID is not an alternative to backups, a corrupted filesystem on a RAID is just as corrupted as if it were on a single disk, you just get extra copies of the corruption. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 18 August 2010 14:34, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc and /var/lib you can recreate the system. Depending on space vs. time, you may prefer not to backup the gigabytes in /usr that can be recreated by portage (although saving /usr/local is a good idea). Thanks a lot for the valuable advice. I have a dozen of scripts in /usr/local/bin that I forgot about. By the way, since a new hdd of one TB is pretty cheap, think about running your gentoo in a software RAID. Guides: RAID is not an alternative to backups, a corrupted filesystem on a RAID is just as corrupted as if it were on a single disk, you just get extra copies of the corruption. I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a notebook with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup destination. So if RAID got corruped, the backups, made since then, would be useless? How would you resolve it? -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates there, so an theorectical highjacker cannot destroy my history) Using git for /etc is a great idea. Thanks. Another option is: * app-backup/dirvish Latest version available: 1.2.1 Latest version installed: 1.2.1 Size of downloaded files: 47 kB Homepage:http://www.dirvish.org/ Description: Dirvish is a fast, disk based, rotating network backup system. License: OSL-2.0 Works by first creating a copy (--init) and then hard-linking subsequent versions of files/directories back to the original original if its identical. If a file is changed/new, it is copied instead of linked so actual space usage quickly stabilises even with a varying number of versions. Backup over the network (this is how I have configured mine) uses rsync over ssh with keys and is pull from a cron job on the backup server or manual on demand (i.e., server initiated). Version management is by a reasonably sophisticated date of version scheme where by running dirvish-expire deletes out of date versions (runs in a cron job). The smart part is that once the last hard link to file is deleted, its gone, otherwise its kept in the remaining versions :) Restore is a simple matter of identifying the version you want and copying it back - Ive restored individual files through to complete systems after total disk failure. Can do includes/excludes, whole systems or just directories such as /etc and can be easily automated. Doesnt use compression, but most backup regimes (every day for a weekly rota + a Sunday kept for 6 months) stabilise at about 2x the original (gross) copy size, no matter how many copies with average changes between versions. Though large scale changes such as an emerge -e world will take more as it will generate new copies of most files. Downside is it will hammer the destination file system - reiserfs3 works well, ext2/ext3 have been hopeless everytime I've tried - mass corruption. The file system will need a large number of inodes (for links) if there are an excessive number of files x versions - again reiserfs3 scores well here. Highly recommended! BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
On 8/17/2010 3:49 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: USE only affects optional dependencies. euse -I hal will list packages that have a hal USE flag while emerge --depclean -pv sys-apps/hal will show those that depend o it. I've just experimented a bit with that and it turned out that --depclean doesn't clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again (that's indicating the depending ebuilds are written properly). Is this a bug ? --depclean is supposed to pull in build-time dependencies, unless you specify --with-bdeps n. So if that's not happening, then I'd say it is a bug.
[gentoo-user] Re: Typewriter sound
On 2010-08-18, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I think I got a old IBM AT/XT keyboard out in my shop. It has the wrong connector tho. Those things are pretty loud. You are right, they are heavy tho. Hmmm, could buy a adapter I guess. I still use an IBM AT keyboard every day. Everything else from that AT has long since been recycled, but the keyboard still works great after almost 25 years. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Why is it that when at you DIE, you can't take gmail.comyour HOME ENTERTAINMENT CENTER with you??
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
Am 18.08.2010 01:44, schrieb Albert Hopkins: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 19:41 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: Here is my edit of his Python script. ... which I actually forgot to attach :| funny stuff. Unfortunately I get # ./keypress.py Traceback (most recent call last): File ./keypress.py, line 11, in module from Xlib.display import Display ImportError: No module named Xlib.display What should I emerge?? ;-) thx, s
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD borked: SysFS removed
On 08/17/2010 04:38 PM, walt wrote: Well, not quite true. I did change my /etc/fstab, but I'm now using disk labels in fstab instead of device names. If you still use device names you'll need to change /dev/hd* to /dev/sd* in fstab when using the new disk drivers. I'm an old-timer with *nix stuff so it took me ages to finally use disk labels. It doesn't provide any benefit straight off, but in the long run, man, is it so much easier.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge 32bits on 64bits platform
Le Tuesday 17 August 2010 21:24:59, Bill Longman a écrit : On 08/17/2010 06:43 AM, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 8/16/2010 2:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: I have read several things about this, but never really solved ! Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ? All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! Can I emerge ? Well, you can certainly make a 32 bit chroot directory and compile things in there. That works on x86_64 quite nicely. (Never tried it on the sparcs 'coz I got rid of the SPARCstations long ago.) I don't know how you'd peel out the results of your compile and place them into your 64 bit host without mucking up things. I guess you could use binpkg or some such but you'd still have the problem of unwrapping the 32 bit pkg in your 64 bit host. Yuck. I have simply used the 10.0.42 plugin which have a native 64 bit version... Thanks ! -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a notebook with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup destination. So if RAID got corruped, the backups, made since then, would be useless? How would you resolve it? The ONLY thing RAID will save you from is hardware failure. Copying data from one disk to another is not RAID. If you use dd to copy from one corrupt filesystem to another, you have two corrupt filesystems. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS.
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [10-08-18 17:12]: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: By the way (the same way! ;)) I am in search of such an model m IBM-keyboard. A colleque yesterday calls me and said, that he found one for me in the PC-junk at the basement of the building he is working in. Hopefully it is one which is 1.) fully working and 2.) with german keyboard layout. Fingers crossed. Unicomp owns the patent from the original IBM/Lexmark Model M keyboards, they still make sell modern versions (with USB and Windows keys, if you want, also versions with PS/2 or without windows keys are available). And you can buy it with German configuration. You can even buy it with quiet keys, but what is the point of that?? ;) They are made in the USA but can be shipped worldwide. This is the model I have (in black with grey keys): http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html It is the same size and weight like the old keyboards, very heavy, each key cap can be removed, it is loud clicks nicely and is very awesome. For USD$69 I think it is a bargain, I type on the computer every day and this keyboard is simply perfect to me. After using cheap $5 and $10 keyboards for so many years, now I will never go back to those. Their website is http://www.pckeyboard.com and they have other keyboard variations such as a Linux keyboard. I highly recommend it for anyone who likes a huge and loud keyboard that feels incredible. :) Hi Paul, yes, I saw the sites/homepages of both sellers before. Unfortunately shipping costs to germany is high and payment is complex. If they only would have a distributor here in germany... But with little luck, next week a colleque will give me one of those really old, sturdy, heavy, loud and WONDERFUL original IBM keyboards. Fingers crossed that is a Model M with buckling springs, german layout and all functional! Happy hacking! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [10-08-18 00:20]: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:20 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, on YouTube there was a Blender-2.5 tutorial with audio. There was an interesting detail: While there were spoken instructions one can hear one typing on its keyboard. Each hit on one of the keys made the sound of an old typewriter (no, it was not the sound of the legendary IBM Model M keyboard ;) ). How can I achieve this? I have not tried it, but a Google search showed me this: http://github.com/colszowka/linux-typewriter BTW - I have Unicomp keyboards (modern version of IBM Model M) and they are loud and awesome ;) Hi, I am still searching for a specific typewriter sound -- the one I heard in the background of the video of the blender tutorial. It sounds like a pure mechanical typewriter. And it sounds like one is typeing onto a paper, which was put into the typewriter with a little gap between the paper and the rubber platen roller (hopefully I got these words right...), so each hit onto one of the keys is followed with a little PENG! (or should I call it BANG!) when the type hits the paper and hammers it against the roller. Little literarty shoots somehow. The incarnation of rhetorical power in some way...;) Does someone know of more typewrite sounds? I searched the net and found another source but the sound wasn't there... Keep hacking! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org [10-08-18 04:16]: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 19:41 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: Here is my edit of his Python script. ... which I actually forgot to attach :| -a #!/usr/bin/env python ## A tiny, nifty script for playing musical notes on each keypress. ## ## Copyright Sayan Riju Chakrabarti (sayanriju) 2009 ## me[at]sayanriju[dot]co[dot]cc ## ## Released under WTFPL Version 2 ## (DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT TO PUBLIC LICENSE) ## Copy of license text can be found online at ## http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/COPYING ## http://rants.sayanriju.co.cc/script-to-make-tick-tick-sound-on-keypress from Xlib.display import Display import subprocess import time KEYPRESSFILE = 'typewriter-key-1.wav' RETURNFILE = 'typewriter-line-break-1.wav' notes=[440,494,523,587,659,698,784] ZERO,SHIFT,ALT,CTL=[],[],[],[] ENTER = [0, 0, 0, 0, 16, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0] for i in range(0,32): ZERO.append(0) if i==6: SHIFT.append(4) else: SHIFT.append(0) if i==4: CTL.append(32) else: CTL.append(0) if i==8: ALT.append(1) else: ALT.append(0) ignorelist=[ZERO,ALT,SHIFT,CTL] def main(): disp = Display()# connect to display while 1:#event loop keymap = disp.query_keymap() if keymap not in ignorelist: filename = RETURNFILE if keymap == ENTER else KEYPRESSFILE subprocess.Popen(['aplay', filename], stderr=open('/dev/null', 'w')) time.sleep(0.1) if __name__ == '__main__': main() Hi, I checked the script -- it works :) But it is to slow (my computer is to slow, I am too fast?) I can press twice the number of keys which got sounded by the script. Or is something wrong with the setup of my sound interface? My computer is a Athlon XP2 64 (32 bit Gentoo) 3800+, so I think, that it is not /that/ slow :) Any ideas? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 18:20 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I checked the script -- it works :) But it is to slow (my computer is to slow, I am too fast?) I can press twice the number of keys which got sounded by the script. Or is something wrong with the setup of my sound interface? My computer is a Athlon XP2 64 (32 bit Gentoo) 3800+, so I think, that it is not /that/ slow :) Any ideas? Best regards, mcc I can't say. It works fine on the two machines I tested on (not super-fast machines but modern). -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Typewriter sound
Am 18.08.2010 17:10, schrieb Peter Ruskin: python-xlib thank you, works now, it's fun (for a while ... ;-) ) S
Re: [gentoo-user] Access WDTLIVE Anonymous share from Linux
On 18 Aug 2010, at 11:18, SpaceCake wrote: ... how can I instruct these programs to use anonymous login first or at least try to use it if authentication is not succeed Have you tried: smbmount {service} {mount-point} -o username=guest ? Stroller
Re: [gentoo-user] Regenerate portage cache from scratch following a big toe crash?
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: OK, this is too funny. I'm sitting here in the dark browsing around on my home machine while I'm doing an eix-sync. I have my legs crossed, sitting in my chair that swivels, and guess what...my big toe is at __exactly__ the height of the main power button on my APC UPS, and darn if I don't hit it and power is gone! The machine booted and came back up with no obvious problems but when I tried to continue with the eix-sync I get some pretty messed up messages, ala: Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 154|154 (100%) Finished I tried removing the timestamp file to get it to sync again but that didn't fix it. How does a big-toe guy regenerate the database emerge --sync normally keeps for my machine? Too funny! (Hey - at least I provided a laugh I hope!) :-))) - Mark I think this will help: emerge-webrsync That should download the complete tree. It will be a pretty good size file tho just in case you have dial-up or some other slow connection. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Careful with the toe next time. lol Thanks Dale, and to Andrea also. On my machine I'm not finding a man page on emerge-webrsync so I'm a bit hesitant to run it until I find maybe some information on line. Andrea's emerge --metadata command is one thing I thought about last night, along with maybe --regen, but decided it wasn't worth messing things up. I think maybe the removal of eix completely, then removal of the cache database, and then re-emerging eix and starting clean with that program might be the safest first step, assuming that I don't find a problem with emerge itself this evening. Thanks for the ideas. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 18 August 2010 14:59, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates there, so an theorectical highjacker cannot destroy my history) Using git for /etc is a great idea. Thanks. Another option is: * app-backup/dirvish Latest version available: 1.2.1 Latest version installed: 1.2.1 Size of downloaded files: 47 kB Homepage:http://www.dirvish.org/ Description: Dirvish is a fast, disk based, rotating network backup system. License: OSL-2.0 Works by first creating a copy (--init) and then hard-linking subsequent versions of files/directories back to the original original if its identical. If a file is changed/new, it is copied instead of linked so actual space usage quickly stabilises even with a varying number of versions. Backup over the network (this is how I have configured mine) uses rsync over ssh with keys and is pull from a cron job on the backup server or manual on demand (i.e., server initiated). Version management is by a reasonably sophisticated date of version scheme where by running dirvish-expire deletes out of date versions (runs in a cron job). The smart part is that once the last hard link to file is deleted, its gone, otherwise its kept in the remaining versions :) Restore is a simple matter of identifying the version you want and copying it back - Ive restored individual files through to complete systems after total disk failure. Can do includes/excludes, whole systems or just directories such as /etc and can be easily automated. Doesnt use compression, but most backup regimes (every day for a weekly rota + a Sunday kept for 6 months) stabilise at about 2x the original (gross) copy size, no matter how many copies with average changes between versions. Though large scale changes such as an emerge -e world will take more as it will generate new copies of most files. Downside is it will hammer the destination file system - reiserfs3 works well, ext2/ext3 have been hopeless everytime I've tried - mass corruption. The file system will need a large number of inodes (for links) if there are an excessive number of files x versions - again reiserfs3 scores well here. Highly recommended! BillK Thanks. It sound just it is made just for this. It even call itself 'time machine'. Obviously compression is left out by using links but it sounds kind of overwhelming to me. I don't have a reiserfs partition and cannot afford to have one at the mo..
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 18 August 2010 17:53, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a notebook with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup destination. So if RAID got corruped, the backups, made since then, would be useless? How would you resolve it? The ONLY thing RAID will save you from is hardware failure. Copying data from one disk to another is not RAID. If you use dd to copy from one corrupt filesystem to another, you have two corrupt filesystems. Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong?
Re: [gentoo-user] Regenerate portage cache from scratch following a big toe crash?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: OK, this is too funny. I'm sitting here in the dark browsing around on my home machine while I'm doing an eix-sync. I have my legs crossed, sitting in my chair that swivels, and guess what...my big toe is at __exactly__ the height of the main power button on my APC UPS, and darn if I don't hit it and power is gone! The machine booted and came back up with no obvious problems but when I tried to continue with the eix-sync I get some pretty messed up messages, ala: Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 146|154 ( 94%): x11-libs .. Can't read cache file /usr/portage/metadata/cache/x11-libs/pixman-0.18.4: Success Reading category 154|154 (100%) Finished I tried removing the timestamp file to get it to sync again but that didn't fix it. How does a big-toe guy regenerate the database emerge --sync normally keeps for my machine? Too funny! (Hey - at least I provided a laugh I hope!) :-))) - Mark I think this will help: emerge-webrsync That should download the complete tree. It will be a pretty good size file tho just in case you have dial-up or some other slow connection. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Careful with the toe next time. lol Thanks Dale, and to Andrea also. On my machine I'm not finding a man page on emerge-webrsync so I'm a bit hesitant to run it until I find maybe some information on line. Andrea's emerge --metadata command is one thing I thought about last night, along with maybe --regen, but decided it wasn't worth messing things up. I think maybe the removal of eix completely, then removal of the cache database, and then re-emerging eix and starting clean with that program might be the safest first step, assuming that I don't find a problem with emerge itself this evening. Thanks for the ideas. Cheers, Mark What you described above is what emerge-webrsync does. Remember during the install when you downloaded a snapshot of the tree? That is basically what that does. It replaces the whole tree. Since you don't know what is corrupt, that is what I would do anyway. When you run a regular sync, it just replaces the files that have been updated or changed in some way. Actually, I would rm everything except distfiles and then sync. That would do the same thing but then I know for sure anything corrupt is gone for sure and I have a fresh start. Your mileage may vary tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you believe ZFS is unmaintained? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? Also note: btrfs now is three years old. ZFS was started aprox. 10 years ago. For this reason, btrfs is expected to need another 7 years to readh the level of stability currently seen with ZFS. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Still Struggling With Wireless
This is a full protocol of all steps I need to do to get wlan0 running with wpa_supplicant: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Asus_PRO52H#Network Al
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 18 August 2010 21:37, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. Right, remembered after reading the 'licensing', it was only available through FUSE. I just checked on BTRFS. wiki.kernel.org says BTRFS is stable as of 2.6.29 but still masked on Gentoo. I will read more about it later and decide whether to convert.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice
Am Dienstag, 17. August 2010 schrieb Mick: I am puzzled by this problem. One box of mine seems to be unable to show the GBP sign in OpenOffice. In any OOo application it shows a capital A with umlauts and then shows the £ sign. In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency GBP £ English (UK) just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine. The locales are the same LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8 on all of them. Different font sets installed? Seeing a character as Ä or à and someting looks more like an encoding problem, because usually à and something is unicode interpreted as single-byte. I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings. Good luck, Mark I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has this problem in Kmail, not just OOo. There don't seem to be any other problems with the characterset or keyboard, only the GBP sign. Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' sign. I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal - Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in $your_DE’s settingss) -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' begin signature_virus Hi! I’m a signature virus. Please copy me to your signature to help me spread. end signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 18 August 2010 21:49, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you believe ZFS is unmaintained? I was unsure, thats why I asked if I was wrong. My bad. Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? Because ZFS is licensed with Sun CDDL, which is incompatible with GNU GPL, so it cant be distributed with Linux kernel. That's why it is ported to FUSE. Also note: btrfs now is three years old. ZFS was started aprox. 10 years ago. For this reason, btrfs is expected to need another 7 years to readh the level of stability currently seen with ZFS. ZFS was announced on 2004. So approximately six year, not ten. Besides, things in computer world do not always work that linearly, you know.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
On 08/18/2010 11:49 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you believe ZFS is unmaintained? That's Nganon's comment. I'll let him answer. Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? Only for getting it to run on Linux. The CDDL doesn't play well with GPL. Also note: btrfs now is three years old. ZFS was started aprox. 10 years ago. For this reason, btrfs is expected to need another 7 years to readh the level of stability currently seen with ZFS. Might take even less!
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? Because ZFS is licensed with Sun CDDL, which is incompatible with GNU GPL, so it cant be distributed with Linux kernel. That's why it is ported to FUSE. The CDDL is as incompatible to the GPL as the BSD license. Both do not allow to change the license of the code and for this reason, a code combination cannot happen as a derivative work. If you like to create a derivative work from a GPL program and BSD code from another person, you would need to declare the code from another person to be _your_ modification. This is something that would violate the Copyright law. The GPL however permits code combinations as collective work. As the GPL then is only valir for the GPL part of the whole, this does not cause incompatibilities. Also note: btrfs now is three years old. ZFS was started aprox. 10 years ago. For this reason, btrfs is expected to need another 7 years to readh the level of stability currently seen with ZFS. ZFS was announced on 2004. So approximately six year, not ten. Besides, things in computer world do not always work that linearly, you know. In 2002, the ZFS developers have already been forced to have their homedirectories on ZFS. In 2004, ZFS was already under test in universities. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
[gentoo-user] Kernel questions
1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? lspci -k lists me all modules of the running genkernel. Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have different names. 2.) Which approach would you recommend? To customize the kernel I can either strip down the configuration of the genkernel or start with an empty .config file. 3.) Is there a concept behind the default settings of make menuconfig if you start with an empty .config? I don't see it. 4.) Is there a concept behind the default settings of make if .config is empty? Similar question. Running make with an empty .config file starts a questionary on the shell, with given default settings. Accepting all defaults doesn't even contain ext2 or ext3 on the one hand, but a few comparingly rare selections on the other. 5.) Where are my platform specific drivers? X86 Platform Specific Device Drivers --- I get them if I strip down genkernel. Now I started with the shell questionary and than I edit the result with menuconfig. The submenu doesn't open or is empty. Al
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:49 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Joerg Schilling did opine thusly: remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave it did not tax it in any way--it worked okay. ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? You appear to not fully understand the licenses. Remember that the Linux kernel is GPL-2 and it's modules are considered derivative works. The GPL-2 license demands that all derivative works be either GPL-2 licensed or 100% compatible with the GPL-2. ZFS is licensed CCDL which although free and liberal, is not GPL-2 compatible. It is BSD-compatible which is why the BSDs can (and some do) ship it. The ZFS license is thus not a mere hurdle, it is an un-overcomeable barrier in it's current form. If Oracle were to re-license it then the problem could be solved, but few in this game hold any hope of that ever happening. But all of this has been hashed to death many many many times here and in other places - to the point where it is now conclusive. Google will reveal the entire discussion in all it's painful detail. Start with lkml. Let's not rehash it here again. Please, I beg of you. Let us not do that. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions
On 18 August 2010 22:30, Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? lspci -k lists me all modules of the running genkernel. Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have different names. Submit your lspci -n output here and get amused by the magic http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ You can then search the modules in menuconfig using / and shift+insert For the rest of your questions, in short, all I can say is I followed the instructions in the gentoo handbook: cd /usre/srx/linux make menuconfig and spend hours for customizing my kernel using menuconfig and its help. I am sure more experienced users will show you a better way in a minute.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions
Hello, 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? I don't think so. The help text for most modules has a reference to the actual module name (something like the module will be called ). If you're looking for something specific you could try grepping for that in the /usr/src/linux/**/Kconfig files and see what setting it belongs to. To customize the kernel I can either strip down the configuration of the genkernel or start with an empty .config file. I generally start with a .config from a similar machine :) Failing that, I prefer the empty config route. 3.) Is there a concept behind the default settings of make menuconfig if you start with an empty .config? AFAIK every time you have no .config you get the default settings for the current arch, which are created by running make defconfig. I guess they're what Linux is using... (just kidding -- I have no clue) 5.) Where are my platform specific drivers? X86 Platform Specific Device Drivers --- Most settings in that submenu depend on specifig things being enabled elsewhere (e.g. an ACPI driver). If you have actually selected X86_PLATFORM_DEVICES=Y, and you get an empty submenu, chances are the rest of your configuration is such that nothing in there can be selected. For more information check the contents of /usr/src/linux/drivers/platform/x86/Kconfig HTH, andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? You appear to not fully understand the licenses. Well, I of course fully understand the licenses. It may however be that you are missinformed because you have been listening to the wrong people. Remember that the Linux kernel is GPL-2 and it's modules are considered derivative works. The GPL-2 license demands that all derivative works be either GPL-2 licensed or 100% compatible with the GPL-2. This is a claim that in conflict with the US copyright law. Check out: http://www.osscc.net/en/gpl.html There are verious statements from various lawyers that explain this and even give evidence for their claims. The GPL tries to redefine the definition for the term derivative work but this is forbidden by US Copyright law title 17 section 106. See my other posting for more information. ZFS is licensed CCDL which although free and liberal, is not GPL-2 compatible. It is BSD-compatible which is why the BSDs can (and some do) ship it. The ZFS license is thus not a mere hurdle, it is an un-overcomeable barrier in The only hurdle is in the brain of some Linux developers. I know of not a single lawyer that could claim such incompatibility and gives evidence for his statements. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net wrote: Most settings in that submenu depend on specifig things being enabled elsewhere (e.g. an ACPI driver). If you have actually selected X86_PLATFORM_DEVICES=Y, and you get an empty submenu, chances are the rest of your configuration is such that nothing in there can be selected. Also, in menuconfig you can type / which will allow you to search. The search results will tell you which other options the items depend on and which menu they are located in, so you can find them and enable as needed.
[gentoo-user] LINGUAS
The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. Al
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice
On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' sign. I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal - Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in $your_DE’s settingss) Yes, this box is running KDE. The regional settings show United Kingdom. The only thing that is different to other boxen of mine is that I have not set up /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-keymap.fdi to define: merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringuk/merge When I set up such a file in /etc/ then I can no longer use the keyboard in KDE. I have to fall back to a console and work from there. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Still Struggling With Wireless
On 18/08/10 12:56, CJoeB wrote: On 08/18/10 01:12, Jake Moe wrote: On 18/08/10 09:04, CJoeB wrote: On 08/17/10 10:55, Jake Moe wrote: On 08/17/10 11:55, Adam Carter wrote: Hi, I'm biting the bullet here and asking for help. Yes! I've posted before. And before anyone asks, I have read the responses to my previous posts which helped little. I have read the documentation and the wikis - ad nauseum. I'm still having problems with wireless. I use wpa_supplicant to provide the wifi crypto. So, I'm left with trying to use the iwl3945 driver in the kernel. I followed the wiki for setting this up and thought I had succeeded. I got to the point where I was told to type the following: ifconfig wlan0 up (this does activate the wireless led on my computer) iwlist wlan0 scan iwconfig wlan0 essid network name (where the network name is the essid that has been set) When I got this to work, I thought I was home free despite the kludgy way of getting wireless working. However, I rebooted and now, when I type iwlist wlan0 scan I get told that scanning is not supported. Yes, I have iwl3945-ucode installed and yes, it was recompiled after the kernel was rebuilt. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Forgetting to post up your configs :) eg /etc/conf.d/net etc I've used the iwl3945 on a few HP laptops without much problem. The few problems I had were related to switching the wireless on and off; I'd have to rmmod and modprobe kernel modules to get it working again. Does ifconfig list the interface? If not, what does ifconfig wlan0 up do? What about the output of iwconfig? And going for the obvious here, any chance that the wireless is turned off? Jake Moe iwconfig lists the interface as wlan0 I discovered last night after sending my original message that my symlink was wrong - I used to have net.eth0 and net.eth1 pointing to net.lo. However, last night I removed the net.eth1 symlink and created the net.wlan0 symlink to net.lo. Now when I boot the computer, my wireless comes up and the LED comes on, but then it times out because (I assume) it can't establish a connection. This is my /etc/conf.d/net file. Note that the any used to work when I used the ipw3945 driver. I would scan for available networks. I tried last night to change the any to the essid printed on my Bell router, but that didn't work. # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.* # scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration, # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!). #preup() { # if [[ ${IFACE} = wlan0 ]]; then # sleep 3 # fi # return 0 #} modules=( iwconfig ) iwconfig_wlan0=mode managed config_eth0=(dhcp) config_wlan0=(dhcp) wpa_timeout_wlan0=15 essid_wlan0=any Regards, Colleen This is the wireless part of mine: modules=( iwconfig ) config_wlan0=( noop dhcp ) dhcpcd_wlan0=( -d -t 15 ) associate_order=( forcepreferredonly ) associate_timeout=( 5 ) preferred_aps=( firstessid secondessid ) key_firstessid=( THIS-ISMY-KEY1-1234-5678-90AB-CD ) key_secondessid=( THIS-ISMY-KEY2-ABCD-EFGH-IJKL-MN ) I've removed anything not having to do with the wireless for clarity. From memory, the only lines needed are modules, config_wlan0, and preferred_aps (I have two because I also use wireless at my g/f's mum's house). Oh, and I use forcepreferredonly so it'll try to connect even though it can't find my essid by scanning (because I've told my router to stop broadcasting the essid of my wireless network), and it'll only try to connect to networks I specifically tell it to, no others. If your essid is hidden as well, you'll probably need to add either forcepreferredonly or forceany if you want it to auto-connect to any it finds if it can't connect to yours. Reading through the wireless.example file, I came across this: ## # SETTINGS ## # Hard code an ESSID to an interface - leave this unset if you wish the driver # to scan for available Access Points # Set to any to connect to any ESSID - the driver picks an Access Point # This needs to be done when the driver doesn't support scanning # This may work for drivers that don't support scanning but you need automatic # AP association # I would only set this as a last resort really - use the preferred_aps # setting at the bottom of this file Which is why I used perferred_aps instead of essid_wlan0. Give that a try, perhaps? Jake Moe Haven't tried this yet - just got the e-mail and it's almost 11:00 p.m. and time for me to hit the sack. However, I wanted to point this out. This test was copied from dmesg. Unless, I
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice
On Tuesday 17 August 2010 23:10:31 Peter Ruskin wrote: On Tuesday 17 August 2010 20:23:08 Mick wrote: On Tuesday 17 August 2010 08:28:11 you wrote: On Friday 06 August 2010 21:13:06 Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I am puzzled by this problem. One box of mine seems to be unable to show the GBP sign in OpenOffice. In any OOo application it shows a capital A with umlauts and then shows the £ sign. In the OOo Language Settings I have selected as Default Currency GBP £ English (UK) just as I have on two other boxen, which work fine. The locales are the same LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8 on all of them. Any ideas? -- Regards, Mick No real idea but possibly: Different font sets installed? Incorrect/different font paths in xorg.config? I don't use OO so I cannot speak to it's internal settings. Good luck, Mark I looked at this box again and it transpires that it also has this problem in Kmail, not just OOo. There don't seem to be any other problems with the characterset or keyboard, only the GBP sign. Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' sign. Why not use xmodmap? Here's a line from my $HOME/.Xmodmap: keycode 12 = 3 sterling threesuperior Greek_OMEGA Evoke using xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap Shift+3=£; Shift+AltGr+3=Ω; AltGr+3=³ Thanks Peter, I've tried this and it does not work. :-( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge 32bits on 64bits platform
On 08/16/2010 09:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: I have read several things about this, but never really solved ! Can I emerge a 32bits software on 64bits platform with a multilib profile ? All my web browsers (konqueror, opera, chromium, firefox) are 64bits, whereas flash player exist currently in 32bits. So, I need to have 32bits browser ! Can I emerge ? Thanks ! Welcome to hell. No, that's possible, as others pointed out. There was an initiative to bring true multilib to Gentoo a year or so back (maybe more) but it seems it died and no one's working on it. For your browser this is probably not so problematic. But imagine someone running the latest graphics stack (libdrm, mesa, etc.) on his 64bit machine, but its totally useless because proprietary Linux games are 32bit and thus won't run. It's 2010 and Gentoo still hasn't solved that :-/
[gentoo-user] autodepclean script (was how to remove HAL)
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:49:22PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote I've just experimented a bit with that and it turned out that --depclean doesn't clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again (that's indicating the depending ebuilds are written properly). This reminds me of a script I've been working on to remove unnecessary cruft. Everything that follows is run as root, because it runs emerge. The attached script autodepclean parses the output from emerge --pretend --depclean and generates a script cleanscript that you can run to clean up your system. This should handle your situation, but it's also a general solution to the entire class of problems of cleaning up when you remove all programs or USE flags that pull in a lib. It is not restricted to just HAL Warning, this script is beta. Use with care. It will remove gentoo-sources versions higher than your current kernel. This is technically correct for removing unused ebuilds. But it may not be what you want. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org #!/bin/bash # autodepclean script v 0.01 released under GPL v3 by Walter Dnes 2010/08/18 # Generates a file cleanscript to remove unused ebuilds, including # buildtime-only dependancies. # # Warning; this script is still beta. I recommend that you check the output # in cleanscript before running it. It is agressive about removing unused # gentoo-sources versions. This includes those that are higher than your # current kernel. This is technically correct for removing unused ebuilds, # but it may not be what you want. # echo #!/bin/bash cleanscript echo # cleanscript.000 emerge --pretend --depclean |\ grep -A1 ^ .*/ |\ grep -v ^ \* |\ grep -v ^-- |\ sed :/: { N s:\n:: s/selected: /-/ s/^ /emerge --depclean =/ } cleanscript.000 while read do echo ${REPLY} cleanscript if [ ${REPLY:0:6} == emerge ]; then echo revdep-rebuild cleanscript fi done cleanscript.000 chmod 744 cleanscript
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice
Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 schrieb Mick: On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' sign. I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal - Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in $your_DE’s settingss) Yes, this box is running KDE. The regional settings show United Kingdom. Hm.. either here’s a misunderstanding or you looked at the wrong place (because in Regional Settings, there is also a tab with Region in its name). I meant the active layout in the Keyboard Layout tab, where you have dozens of countries to chose from and where you can enable/disable the display of a flag in the tray area. Did you mean that one? -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Pilot: Radar, Good Day, Airforce Blackbird, request FL 600 Controller (with a chuckle): Sir, if you can reach, you are cleared FL 600 Pilot: US Air Force Blackbird, leaving FL 800, descending Level 600 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.