Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] £ sign in OpenOffice
On Thursday 19 August 2010 05:01:45 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Mittwoch, 18. August 2010 schrieb Mick: On Wednesday 18 August 2010 19:58:14 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Just adding to this, the £ sign works fine on the console. It is the X applications (including terminals) that seem to have the problem with the '£' sign. I assume you use KDE because you mention KMail. What have you set in KDE’s keyboard layout (Personal - Regional Settings)? (Or if not KDE, then in $your_DE’s settingss) Yes, this box is running KDE. The regional settings show United Kingdom. Hm.. either here’s a misunderstanding or you looked at the wrong place (because in Regional Settings, there is also a tab with Region in its name). I meant the active layout in the Keyboard Layout tab, where you have dozens of countries to chose from and where you can enable/disable the display of a flag in the tray area. Did you mean that one? Ah! Yes, I have 'United Kingdom' in active keyboard layouts too. It also shows keyboard model: Generic 104-key PC and Command: setxkbmap -model pc104 - layout gb. I suspect that this problem is related to the fact that I do not have a xorg.conf setting to change the keyboard from the default US to UK and I cannot set a hal/fdi file in /etc because I lose the keyboard completely in kdm and cannot login (the infamous 'Dale' bug ...!) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] networkmanager cannot connect to wireless network.
Hi, all after I upgraded net-misc/networkmanager-0.8.1-r3, I cannot connect to my wireless ap. here is some debug infomation. How can I fix it? tux ~ # /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon NetworkManager[6653]: info NetworkManager (version 0.8.1) is starting... NetworkManager[6653]: info Read config file /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf NetworkManager[6653]: info modem-manager is now available NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Initializing! NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: management mode: managed NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Monitoring /etc/conf.d/hostname NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Monitoring /etc/conf.d/net NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Can't open /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for wireless security NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Loading connections NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: guessed connection type (wlan0) = 802-11-wireless NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: update_connection_setting_from_config_block: name:wlan0, id:System (wlan0), uuid: bc78c09a-4c5c-6789-0a97-7566d33b64fe NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: wireless_setting added for wlan0 NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Using DHCP for wlan0 NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Connection verified wlan0:1 NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Initialzation complete! NetworkManager[6653]: info Loaded plugin ifnet: (C) 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation, Inc. To report bugs please use bugs.gentoo.org with [networkmanager] or [dagger] prefix. NetworkManager[6653]: info Loaded plugin keyfile: (c) 2007 - 2008 Red Hat, Inc. To report bugs please use the NetworkManager mailing list. NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting unmanaged specs... NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: (135164856) ... get_connections. NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: (135164856) connections count: 1 NetworkManager[6653]: Ignoring insecure configuration file '/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/.keep_net-misc_networkmanager-0' NetworkManager[6653]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting unmanaged specs... NetworkManager[6653]: info WiFi enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file NetworkManager[6653]: info WWAN enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file NetworkManager[6653]: info WiMAX enabled by radio killswitch; enabled by state file NetworkManager[6653]: info Networking is enabled by state file NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): carrier is OFF NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): new Ethernet device (driver: 'e1000e' ifindex: 2) NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0 NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): now managed NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): device state change: 1 - 2 (reason 2) NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): bringing up device. NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): preparing device. NetworkManager[6653]: info (eth0): deactivating device (reason: 2). NetworkManager[6653]: info Added default wired connection 'Auto eth0' for /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:19.0/net/eth0 NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): driver supports SSID scans (scan_capa 0x01). NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'iwlagn' ifindex: 3) NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/1 NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): now managed NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): device state change: 1 - 2 (reason 2) NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): bringing up device. NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): preparing device. NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 2). NetworkManager[6653]: warn /sys/devices/virtual/net/vboxnet0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring... * status: started NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: starting - ready NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): device state change: 2 - 3 (reason 42) NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) starting connection 'Auto NETGEAR007' NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): device state change: 3 - 4 (reason 0) NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... NetworkManager[6653]: info (wlan0): device state change: 4 - 5 (reason 0) NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): connection 'Auto NETGEAR007' requires no security. No secrets needed. NetworkManager[6653]: info Config: added 'ssid' value 'NETGEAR007' NetworkManager[6653]: info Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' NetworkManager[6653]: info Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' NetworkManager[6653]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xchat fails
I faced the same problem, thank you. On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Gregory Shearman zek...@gmail.com wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: I have xchat installed. An update is failing to install with error: libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/lib/libpng12.la' or unhandled argument `/usr/lib/libpng12.la' libpng is installed: /usr/lib$eix libpng [I] media-libs/libpng Available versions: (1.2) 1.2.44 (0) 1.4.3 Installed versions: 1.2.44(1.2)(06:16:49 PM 07/01/2010) 1.4.3(06:15:21 PM 07/01/2010) Checking the lib directory, I find: /usr/lib/$ls libpng* libpng12.so.0 libpng14.a libpng14.la libpng14.so libpng14.so.14 libpng14.so.14.3.0 libpng.a libpng.la libpng.so Any suggestions on how I go about fixing this? Have you run: # lafilefixer --justfixit It looks like the libpng update has removed /usr/lib/libpng12.la and /usr/lib/libpng.la is probably referencing this file. lafilefixer should fix this. You're running with both libpng 1.2 and libpng 1.4 installed. May I suggest you read: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update Do you keep a log of emerge messages so that you can fix these issues as they arise? The file /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example gives examples of how to store all messages generated during an emerge update. These messages can save you a lot of grief later on. -- Regards, Gregory.
Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo
Let me add some text I wrote for another place but that explains how things would work: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works under different licenses on one medium. 2) given the fact that the GPL is an aproved OSS licensse, it obviously complies with the OSS definition. 3) as a result, any GPL interpretation that is based on the assumption that a separate distribution would fix problems is wrong. There is a simple rule: - If you modify a GPLd work by your own, so that all you add was written by you for this modification only, then you created a derivative work and you need to put your modifications under GPL. - If you add another independent work to a GPLd work, you create a so called collective work. This is permitted by the GPL. In this case, the GPL only applies to the GPLd part and the license for the other work applies to the other work. You need to respect the sum of all claims from all licenses in this case. Such a collective work can only be distributed if the claims from the licenses are not contradicting. If one license e.g. permits redistribution on Mondays only and the other permits redistribution on Wednesdays only, you cannot publish the collective work. ZFS is an independent work with respect to the Linx kernel. It was not written for or with the Linux kernel. - If like to you add ZFS to the Linux kernel, you first need to create a derivative work from ZFS and another derivative work from the Linux kernel in order to allow both to work together. You later create a collective work from the combination of the derivative works mentioned before. The modification in the ZFS code (in case they appear in files that come with ZFS) need to be put under CDDL, the modifications in the Linux kernel need to be put under GPL. Note: the GPLv3 tries to disallow most collective works, so be careful with GPLv3. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] how to remove HAL
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:49:22 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: I've just experimented a bit with that and it turned out that --depclean doesn't clean up the buildtime-only deps. But if I remove one of them (eg. cabextract), they don't get pulled in again (that's indicating the depending ebuilds are written properly). Emerge defaults to --with-bdeps=n except when using --depclean, when it uses --with-bdeps=y. man emerge explains. -- Neil Bothwick Apple I (c) Copyright 1767, Sir Isaac Newton. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb and in kernel documentation (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/uvesafb.txt) it explains the values and even gives an example of this error and what to do about it: I'm using the Intel driver, which doesn't have those settings. And no, I do not want to drop down to a generic VESA driver with no hardware acceleration. Some more Google searching has turned up a lead. Apparently, it's possible to manually set the mtrr's, using cat and echo with /proc/mtrr According to lspci -v, my integrated graphics chip has Memory at fb80 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] My mtrr setup, however, shows up like so... waltd...@i3 ~ $ cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 (0MB), size= 8192MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x2 ( 8192MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: write-back reg02: base=0x0c000 ( 3072MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: uncachable reg03: base=0x0b400 ( 2880MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable reg04: base=0x0b800 ( 2944MB), size= 128MB, count=1: uncachable reg05: base=0x1fc00 ( 8128MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable I'll read up more on how to set it up manually. One thing that has my curiousity right now... how come there's a gig of ram in write-back mode *STARTING* at 8 gigs, and ending at 9 gigs minus 1 byte, when I only have 8 gigs of ram in total? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all?
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:48 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? It's in make.conf isn't it? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel questions
Thank you all.
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 19 August 2010 14:48, Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? It has something to with packages that has localization support, thus everything to with portage. Global linguas flags are set in make.conf as LINGUAS=en de ru and application specific ones can be set in package.use as www-client/firefox linguas_en_GB app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support.
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set. Check this output: $ type -a [ [ est une primitive du shell [ est /usr/bin/[ [ is a shell built-in becomes est une primitive du shell I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support. How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas. - Florian. / For security reasons, all text in this mail is double-rot13 encrypted. /
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic juniors who blindly run emerge -uND world and walk away thinking Unix always works like RedHat. Why do you give these idiotic juniors the root password/sudo emerge rights? -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 28: Butt Head signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. When Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense. On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales? Al
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 8/19/10, Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com wrote: Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. When Portage evaluates this variable it makes some sense. On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. So shouldn't it be set in a general location like time and locales? No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and also reading too much into the file names. make.conf should really rather be called portage.conf. That would make much more sense IMHO. :) -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 8/19/10, Florian CROUZAT gen...@floriancrouzat.net wrote: On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set. Check this output: $ type -a [ [ est une primitive du shell [ est /usr/bin/[ [ is a shell built-in becomes est une primitive du shell I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support. How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas. Check for the tell-tale USE=nls flag in the ebuilds. Not all ebuild's bother listing explicitly out all of the LINGUAS their sources actually support. coreutils is one of the lazy ones. Just look at its sources: 39 different .po files, that's 39 localizations available. No point printing out such monstrous long lists -- your localization is in there, period! ;) But coreutils does obey LINGUAS anyway. It only installs what you have in your LINGUAS (check, e.g., with equery files coreutils). Openoffice is a special case (surprise!). Its ebuild depends dynamically on spell-check packages depending on the value of LINGUAS -- so the poor Gentoo OOo maintainers must list out every supported lingua in the ebuild. :) -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is like running with scissors
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:50:02 +0200, Elmar Hinz wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Not really. Has it anything to do with portage at all? The LINGUAS variable is used by many packages that use internationalization (i18n) or localization (l10n). It is the standard place for an ebuild to check what National Language Support (NLS) is required for a package. Check which packages you have installed that have the nls USE flag. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be controlled on a per-package basis as others have said. On the other hand, things like bash and coreutils usually have a nls USE flag which controls the compile-time inclusion of *all* supported localizations. Packages built with support for multiple locales will usually pick the right one at run-time by looking at the LANG and LC_* environment variables. (See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml#doc_chap3 for more details) andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
No, I think you're mixing up compile-time and run-time values -- and also reading too much into the file names. make.conf should really rather be called portage.conf. That would make much more sense IMHO. :) As long as the source is the documentation, it should be possible by concept to read in filenames. I think you are right, that portage.conf would be the natural name. Al
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
2010/8/19 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. Really? Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if you compile something without portage. But is the following generalization correct? * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages) * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language). Al
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 08/19/2010 05:37 AM, Florian CROUZAT wrote: On 19 août 2010, at 14:27, Graham Murray wrote: Elmar Hinz oss.el...@googlemail.com writes: 2010/8/18 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:25 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Elmar Hinz did opine thusly: The gentoo wiki suggests in different places to set the LINGUAS environment variable in make.conf. What has LINGUAS todo with make? I would expect it in rc.conf near the UNICODE setting. It has nothing to do with make. It has everything to do with portage. Even than, LINGUAS has rather to do with OpenOffice. Has it anything to do with portage at all? Several packages, not just OpenOffice, can include/support different languages. Portage uses the value of LINGUAS to tell these packages which languages to include/support. I have access to this box where linguas=fr is set. Check this output: $ type -a [ [ est une primitive du shell [ est /usr/bin/[ [ is a shell built-in becomes est une primitive du shell I can't see any use flags in coreutils/bash that informs me it will be emerged with the linguas support. How do I know which package will be localized then ? Just curious, I don't tweak my linguas. As others have said, it's the nls setting that does this. Specifically, the string est une primitive du shell is part of the i18n that's in the bash binary. When you set LANG or LC_MESSAGES to something different, i.e., el_GR, you'll get the Greek translation. The man page for locale has lots of info about this.
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 08/19/2010 06:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: 2010/8/19 Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. Really? Researching the web I understand it origins from gettext and portage has implemented it. If I understand right, it would still matter if you compile something without portage. But is the following generalization correct? * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages) * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language). Yeah, but with the caveat that LANG is the generalization for all the LC_* variables.
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed
On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb and in kernel documentation (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/uvesafb.txt) it explains the values and even gives an example of this error and what to do about it: I'm using the Intel driver, which doesn't have those settings. And no, I do not want to drop down to a generic VESA driver with no hardware acceleration. Some more Google searching has turned up a lead. Apparently, it's possible to manually set the mtrr's, using cat and echo with /proc/mtrr According to lspci -v, my integrated graphics chip has Memory at fb80 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] My mtrr setup, however, shows up like so... waltd...@i3 ~ $ cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 (0MB), size= 8192MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x2 ( 8192MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: write-back reg02: base=0x0c000 ( 3072MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: uncachable reg03: base=0x0b400 ( 2880MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable reg04: base=0x0b800 ( 2944MB), size= 128MB, count=1: uncachable reg05: base=0x1fc00 ( 8128MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable I'll read up more on how to set it up manually. One thing that has my curiousity right now... how come there's a gig of ram in write-back mode *STARTING* at 8 gigs, and ending at 9 gigs minus 1 byte, when I only have 8 gigs of ram in total? You might want to have a look in your kernel Documentation directory. There's a file x86/mtrr.txt that gives you some info. And lots in the fb subdirectory. You can probably find some other info there, too. There's lots of the dreaded MTRR info in the kernel_parameters.txt file, so you can setup the MTRRs at boot time.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions
Am 18.08.2010 21:30, schrieb Elmar Hinz: 1.) Is there a Map: modules to configration parameters? lspci -k lists me all modules of the running genkernel. Unfortunately the configuration parameters of the kernel have different names. 2.) Which approach would you recommend? With new enough kernel sources (gentoo-sources in stable are good enough), there is `make localmodconfig` which removes all mods from your current .config which are not loaded. There is also `make localyesconfig` which does the same but doesn't create modules. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?
Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? The thing is: I want to prevent the installation of German man-pages because they are generally inferior to the English originals and while I appreciate the work done to translate them, I don't really need them. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:49 on Thursday 19 August 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:05:05 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: But for critical production machines? Not a flying chance in hell :-) Too many times I've had to sort out the carnage from idiotic juniors who blindly run emerge -uND world and walk away thinking Unix always works like RedHat. Why do you give these idiotic juniors the root password/sudo emerge rights? Because I have better things to do than log into 137 machines and do what it takes to update world on each one? Remember this ain't a cluster - only about 20 of them share any kind of common usage. Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will never become responsible. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?
try in package.use something like app-office/openoffice-bin linguas_en_GB linguas_de Mirek 2010/8/19 Florian Philipp li...@f_philipp.fastmail.net Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? The thing is: I want to prevent the installation of German man-pages because they are generally inferior to the English originals and while I appreciate the work done to translate them, I don't really need them. Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use for LINGUAS?
On 19/08/2010 17:49, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I'd like to change the LINGUAS setting for a single package. Is there a config file for stuff like this? LINGUAS (like VIDEO_CARDS, INPUT_DEVICES and similar stuff) is declared as an USE_EXPAND variable, so that its contents get automatically translated in a set of USE flags. For example, having LINGUAS=de en results in the USE flags linguas_de and linguas_en being set for ebuilds. User-specified settings take precedence over expanded USE flags, so you can simply set/unset the flags as needed through package.use (e.g. if you have a global LINGUAS=de, sys-apps/man-pages -linguas_de in package.use would do the trick) andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.12.1
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:55:02 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Besides, if I don't give them some form of responsibility they will never become responsible. Unfortunately, the converse is not necessarily true :( -- Neil Bothwick We have a equal opportunity Calculus class -- it's fully integrated. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10
Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.82.76-r1 USE=(-multilib) (-nspluginwrapper) When I go to the Adobe test page (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) it says: You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. (After closing Firefox and even a full reboot.) I uninstalled adobe-flash and checked again: still You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. So it looks like just emerge-ing adobe-flash is not enough? Do I need to configure something? Install something else? Remove something? Cheers, Hilco
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10
Em 19-08-2010 14:34, Hilco Wijbenga escreveu: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.82.76-r1 USE=(-multilib) (-nspluginwrapper) When I go to the Adobe test page (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) it says: You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. (After closing Firefox and even a full reboot.) I uninstalled adobe-flash and checked again: still You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. So it looks like just emerge-ing adobe-flash is not enough? Do I need to configure something? Install something else? Remove something? Cheers, Hilco I don't have neither media-libs/libflash or www-plugins/libflashsupport installed here, only the same version of adobe-flash in x86_64 enviroment. In adobe site above i receive this answer: You have version 10,1,82,76 installed Of course i'm using firefox-bin. Att signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox Flash 10
On 19 August 2010 11:00, Zhu Sha Zang zhushaz...@yahoo.com.br wrote: I don't have neither media-libs/libflash or www-plugins/libflashsupport installed here, only the same version of adobe-flash in x86_64 enviroment. In adobe site above i receive this answer: You have version 10,1,82,76 installed Of course i'm using firefox-bin. Thanks for the info. I killed all Firefox instances that were running. I then uninstalled firefox and replaced it with firefox-bin (3.6.8). Next I uninstalled libflash and libflashsupport. Finally, just to be safe, I reinstalled adobe-flash. The result is exactly the same. Adobe says I have 9,0,115,0 installed.
[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10
On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.82.76-r1 USE=(-multilib) (-nspluginwrapper) When I go to the Adobe test page (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) it says: You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. (After closing Firefox and even a full reboot.) I uninstalled adobe-flash and checked again: still You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. So it looks like just emerge-ing adobe-flash is not enough? Do I need to configure something? Install something else? Remove something? It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do it.) On my system, lsof finds that my Firefox is using: /opt/Adobe/flash-player32/libflashplayer.so which is the latest 10.x version.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10
Em 19-08-2010 15:49, Nikos Chantziaras escreveu: On 08/19/2010 08:34 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to get Flash (10.1.82.76) installed (and working) on Firefox (3.6.8). I installed adobe-flash and, for good measure, libflash and libflashsupport: media-libs/libflash-0.4.10-r1 www-plugins/libflashsupport-1.2 USE=esd gnutls oss pulseaudio -ssl www-plugins/adobe-flash-10.1.82.76-r1 USE=(-multilib) (-nspluginwrapper) When I go to the Adobe test page (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) it says: You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. (After closing Firefox and even a full reboot.) I uninstalled adobe-flash and checked again: still You have version 9,0,115,0 installed. So it looks like just emerge-ing adobe-flash is not enough? Do I need to configure something? Install something else? Remove something? It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do it.) On my system, lsof finds that my Firefox is using: /opt/Adobe/flash-player32/libflashplayer.so which is the latest 10.x version. Did you erased ~/.mozilla directory? Calm down first, but think thirst in mv .mozilla MOZILLA-BCK, then try use firefox again. Att signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10
On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do it.) Brilliant! That was the problem. I don't remember installing it locally but, after removing the Flash library from .mozilla/plugins, Adobe now tells me it sees 10,1,82,76.
[gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup
I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I repeated the backup (more in disbelief than anything else) but the error remained. I spent a few minutes looking around and scratching my head as to what was amiss with it, until eventually I noticed that the recent backup was smaller than the previous version (it should have been bigger due to extra data that has accumulated in the database). I had another final go in running the same good ol' mysqldump command and this time it worked. The backup was a reasonable size and the upload restored the application in the production environment in a good working order. Is there a right and a wrong way of backing up mysql? Did I do something wrong? How should one verify that a back up is sound? (Imagine trying to restore from that incomplete backup!) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10
On 19 August 2010 11:59, Zhu Sha Zang zhushaz...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Did you erased ~/.mozilla directory? Calm down first, but think thirst in mv .mozilla MOZILLA-BCK, then try use firefox again. :-) I'm quite calm. :-) I didn't erase the whole directory just the lib for the plugin in .mozilla/plugins. That did the trick.
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 8/19/2010 9:33 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: On the other hand LINGUAS is still a general variable AFAIK and not portage specific. LINGUAS is strictly portage-specific. It's used to control the compile-time inclusion of languages and/or locales for packages which have that kind of option (i.e. OpenOffice, KDE, Firefox and many others); as such it is generally set in make.conf, although it can be controlled on a per-package basis as others have said. It's more accurate to say LINGUAS is build-time specific. Portage is not the only build process/package manager/configuration system/coffee maker that knows what LINGUAS means. It's the official (as far as there is such a thing) place to store the list of gettext translations you want on your system, and most autotools-based builds and binary package managers also recognize it. --Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] LINGUAS
On 8/19/2010 9:53 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote: But is the following generalization correct? * LINGUAS is the compile time setting (for multiple languages) * LANG is the runtime setting (for the current language). Yes, as long as you're aware that LINGUAS support is recommended, but optional. A package that simply installs every .po file it has will still operate in the correct locale based on your LANG setting, it will just waste a lot of space. --Mike
[gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages
I just got this elog from updating my gentoo system. It's from freetype-2.4.2: begin -- LOG (postinst) The TrueType bytecode interpreter is no longer patented and thus no longer controlled by the bindist USE flag. Enable the auto-hinter USE flag if you want the old USE=bindist hinting behavior. - end --- So I looked up auto-hinter in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media-libs/freetype) The placement of the (recommended) is just a bit ambiguous. Is it recommenting the unpatented auto-hinter, or making a recommendation of the TrueType bytecode interpreter? I'm guessing the former, but not with complete confidence. I want clear font rendering, which I guess means using hints, and I've added the auto-hinter use-flag in package.use. I hope I guessed right. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel questions
With new enough kernel sources (gentoo-sources in stable are good enough), there is `make localmodconfig` which removes all mods from your current .config which are not loaded. There is also `make localyesconfig` which does the same but doesn't create modules. Hope this helps, Yes. Sounds good. I will do some experiments with it and maybe fresh up some wiki pages. Can you combine it with genkernel? genkernel --localmodconfig all ? Al
[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox Flash 10
On 08/19/2010 10:03 PM, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: On 19 August 2010 11:49, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: It seems like you have installed it locally. To find out where it is, execute this (as normal user): lsof | grep flash Firefox must be running and flash loaded (opening a YouTube video should do it.) Brilliant! That was the problem. I don't remember installing it locally but, after removing the Flash library from .mozilla/plugins, Adobe now tells me it sees 10,1,82,76. Note that Firefox now also has a plugins tab in Tools-Add-ons where you can see the version of each plugin.
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed
On Thursday 19 August 2010 15:47:46 Bill Longman wrote: On 08/19/2010 04:37 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 05:55:04PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote I had a similar message, it was there because of the fact that i specified the wrong (or failed to specify?) mtrr method in my kernel boot parameters for the framebuffer. I'm using uvesafb and in kernel documentation (/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/uvesafb.txt) it explains the values and even gives an example of this error and what to do about it: I'm using the Intel driver, which doesn't have those settings. And no, I do not want to drop down to a generic VESA driver with no hardware acceleration. Some more Google searching has turned up a lead. Apparently, it's possible to manually set the mtrr's, using cat and echo with /proc/mtrr According to lspci -v, my integrated graphics chip has Memory at fb80 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] My mtrr setup, however, shows up like so... waltd...@i3 ~ $ cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x0 (0MB), size= 8192MB, count=1: write-back reg01: base=0x2 ( 8192MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: write-back reg02: base=0x0c000 ( 3072MB), size= 1024MB, count=1: uncachable reg03: base=0x0b400 ( 2880MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable reg04: base=0x0b800 ( 2944MB), size= 128MB, count=1: uncachable reg05: base=0x1fc00 ( 8128MB), size= 64MB, count=1: uncachable I'll read up more on how to set it up manually. One thing that has my curiousity right now... how come there's a gig of ram in write-back mode *STARTING* at 8 gigs, and ending at 9 gigs minus 1 byte, when I only have 8 gigs of ram in total? You might want to have a look in your kernel Documentation directory. There's a file x86/mtrr.txt that gives you some info. And lots in the fb subdirectory. You can probably find some other info there, too. There's lots of the dreaded MTRR info in the kernel_parameters.txt file, so you can setup the MTRRs at boot time. I've read as much as I could find, but the whole hexadecimal thing has me overwhelmed O_O I think my mtrr is OK, but I do not understand this enough to know if it would benefit from manual configuration. Walter please break it into small change for me when you sort out yours - you could contact me off list if this is getting too O/T. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I think my mtrr is OK, but I do not understand this enough to know if it would benefit from manual configuration. I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just letting you know: Hey, your MTRR was set wrong and we've changed it for you. So changing it would simply make the message go away but not actually perform any differently because you'd be setting it to the same value it is auto-correcting it to anyway. Or that's how I understand it, at least.
Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:21:20 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up auto-hinter in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media-libs/freetype) The placement of the (recommended) is just a bit ambiguous. Is it recommenting the unpatented auto-hinter, or making a recommendation of the TrueType bytecode interpreter? I'm guessing the former, but not with complete confidence. I'm confident it means the latter. -- Neil Bothwick If at first you do succeed, try to hide your astonishment. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg warning about mtrr: type mismatch and allocation failed
On Thursday 19 August 2010 22:43:19 Paul Hartman wrote: I think, from the error you posted about originally, it's just letting you know: Hey, your MTRR was set wrong and we've changed it for you. So changing it would simply make the message go away but not actually perform any differently because you'd be setting it to the same value it is auto-correcting it to anyway. Or that's how I understand it, at least. I thought that too, until I looked a bit more closely and saw this: [0.608643] mtrr: type mismatch for d000,1000 old: write-back new: write-combining [0.608725] [drm] MTRR allocation failed. Graphics performance may suffer. failed seems ominous. No wonder Walter asked advice. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages
On Thursday 19 August 2010 21:21:20 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: So I looked up auto-hinter in the flagedit(1) program. It says: auto-hinter: Local Flag: Use the unpatented auto-hinter instead of the (recommended) TrueType bytecode interpreter (media- libs/freetype) The placement of the (recommended) is just a bit ambiguous. No, it isn't. You may be being confused by the unnecessary inclusion of brackets (parentheses if you're American); remove them and you see that the TrueType byte-code interpreter is recommended. Or, just consider the phrase the recommended TrueType bytecode interpreter, with or without brackets. I can't see how that could be thought ambiguous. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
[gentoo-user] removing an overlay
Hello, I've just sync'd my machine, and realized I'm pulling in a few packages from the devnull overlay that I would rather not. freetype / fontconfig / cairo for example and it's causing some conflicts when I try to update (-auvND world). I mainly use devnull for uzbl, dmenu, and my window manger awesome, as they tend to have the latest versions. If I remove devnull, will these packages continue being maintained by portage? I don't mind getting these packages from portage if it means less hassle when I update, but the docs suggest that I remove every package that I've installed from devnull before moving forward. This seems like a tremendous hassle, but perhaps there's a one-shot command for doing this? I'm surprised packages in overlays take precedence over portage. Is there any way to get a single package from an overlay without taking everything ? Kind regards, -Alan
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Incomplete mysql backup
On 8/19/2010 12:03 PM, Mick wrote: I use mysqldump to back up a database from a development environment and upload it to a production environment. A couple of days ago I was surprised to see that I was getting errors as soon as I uploaded the backed up database to the production machine! I repeated the backup (more in disbelief than anything else) but the error remained. I spent a few minutes looking around and scratching my head as to what was amiss with it, until eventually I noticed that the recent backup was smaller than the previous version (it should have been bigger due to extra data that has accumulated in the database). I had another final go in running the same good ol' mysqldump command and this time it worked. The backup was a reasonable size and the upload restored the application in the production environment in a good working order. Is there a right and a wrong way of backing up mysql? Did I do something wrong? How should one verify that a back up is sound? (Imagine trying to restore from that incomplete backup!) mysqldump -A --single-transaction That's usually the best way to backup if you have a single machine. Without --single-transaction you may or may not get a proper backup when using Innodb tables on a busy server. However in a busy production environment it's usually best to use a slave to do backups. Bringing LVM snapshots into the mix is also useful, but you must lock and flush Mysql in order to get a correct snapshot which makes it only an option on the slave. kashani
