Re: [gentoo-ppc-user] Re: New install - Unable to get my ppc Mac Mini to boot the root partition
Could the root device now be referred to as /dev/sda4 (SCSI Disk support) with the kernel now loading? You should be able to pass the root device to the kernel at boot time (root=/dev/sda4). If you are able to get past the root filesystem check (the disk is referred to as sda instead of hda), then you will need to update your / etc/fstab to reflect the different device names. Barry On Sep 2, 2010, at 5:55 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Joe Fox jwfo...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, Did you compile in your ext2/ext3 support as a module or statically into the kernel? If you compiled them as modules, then you need to create an inirtrd that includes the drivers to load on boot. Just a thought. Joe On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: /dev/hda4 / ext3noatime I believe they are both built-in: livecd ~ # cat /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config | grep EXT2 CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y # CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP is not set livecd ~ # cat /mnt/gentoo/usr/src/linux/.config | grep EXT3 CONFIG_EXT3_FS=y # CONFIG_EXT3_DEFAULTS_TO_ORDERED is not set CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_EXT3_FS_SECURITY=y livecd ~ # - Mark Anyone else able to chime in before I give up on PowerPC again? Sure would like to get this running again. QUESTION: Is there a way to rebuild partition 1 on these Apple disks? The one labeled 'Apple_partition_map '? Seems like that's the only thing I haven't touched yet having rebuilt this machine twice. Again, this machine has run Gentoo for a few years. I was doing a major emerge -e @world operation which seemed to finish successfully but when I rebooted the kernel doesn't see the drive. I've rebuilt the machine 2 more times from scratch and continue to be stumped by this problem. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:12:45 -0500, Dale wrote: I would like either the old IDE drives to come first, since I rarely ever move them or grub to work with labels. I have a entry in grub.conf that uses the labels but i have not rebooted yet. According to what I have read it will work. The only concern is that if grub doesn't like labels and I add another drive, then I got to edit the grub boot line to boot and it took me a couple tries to get this right. It seeing what used to be the last drive first sort of took me by surprise. I don't like surprises to much. Press c to get the GRUB command line and then use find to identify your root partition - find /etc/fstab will work unless you have two root partitions. There's no need for suck-it-and-see editing of config files, you only have to change menu.lst after you have found and tested the correct boot options. -- Neil Bothwick Next time you wave at me, use more than one finger, please. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:12:45 -0500, Dale wrote: I would like either the old IDE drives to come first, since I rarely ever move them or grub to work with labels. I have a entry in grub.conf that uses the labels but i have not rebooted yet. According to what I have read it will work. The only concern is that if grub doesn't like labels and I add another drive, then I got to edit the grub boot line to boot and it took me a couple tries to get this right. It seeing what used to be the last drive first sort of took me by surprise. I don't like surprises to much. Press c to get the GRUB command line and then use find to identify your root partition - find /etc/fstab will work unless you have two root partitions. There's no need for suck-it-and-see editing of config files, you only have to change menu.lst after you have found and tested the correct boot options. I know I switched to grub from lilo because it was user friendly but I haven't used this feature. So instead of hitting e, I hit c and it gives me something similar to what I get when I type grub into a console when booted? I did a man grub here and I don't see that documented. Is this documented somewhere? I do have a old back-up copy of Gentoo on another drive. Since it's not tarballed, I guess it would find its fstab too. Grub would think it is a second OS. This is interesting. I'm hoping this is documented somewhere so I can do some reading. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On 09/02/2010 11:46 AM, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:12:45 -0500, Dale wrote: I would like either the old IDE drives to come first, since I rarely ever move them or grub to work with labels. I have a entry in grub.conf that uses the labels but i have not rebooted yet. According to what I have read it will work. The only concern is that if grub doesn't like labels and I add another drive, then I got to edit the grub boot line to boot and it took me a couple tries to get this right. It seeing what used to be the last drive first sort of took me by surprise. I don't like surprises to much. Press c to get the GRUB command line and then use find to identify your root partition - find /etc/fstab will work unless you have two root partitions. There's no need for suck-it-and-see editing of config files, you only have to change menu.lst after you have found and tested the correct boot options. I know I switched to grub from lilo because it was user friendly but I haven't used this feature. So instead of hitting e, I hit c and it gives me something similar to what I get when I type grub into a console when booted? I did a man grub here and I don't see that documented. Is this documented somewhere? Yes. When you press ESC in Grub to go to text mode, it says right there that you can press c to enter edit mode :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/02/2010 11:46 AM, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 02:12:45 -0500, Dale wrote: I would like either the old IDE drives to come first, since I rarely ever move them or grub to work with labels. I have a entry in grub.conf that uses the labels but i have not rebooted yet. According to what I have read it will work. The only concern is that if grub doesn't like labels and I add another drive, then I got to edit the grub boot line to boot and it took me a couple tries to get this right. It seeing what used to be the last drive first sort of took me by surprise. I don't like surprises to much. Press c to get the GRUB command line and then use find to identify your root partition - find /etc/fstab will work unless you have two root partitions. There's no need for suck-it-and-see editing of config files, you only have to change menu.lst after you have found and tested the correct boot options. I know I switched to grub from lilo because it was user friendly but I haven't used this feature. So instead of hitting e, I hit c and it gives me something similar to what I get when I type grub into a console when booted? I did a man grub here and I don't see that documented. Is this documented somewhere? Yes. When you press ESC in Grub to go to text mode, it says right there that you can press c to enter edit mode :) I was hoping for something like a man page or something tho. I would like to read up on this a little before jumping in head first. Does it have a little info on screen on what does what at least? I think the edit screen does but not sure about this part. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Dale writes: I was hoping for something like a man page or something tho. I would like to read up on this a little before jumping in head first. Does it have a little info on screen on what does what at least? I think the edit screen does but not sure about this part. Grub comes with a lot of documentation. Although the man page is very small, it says that the full documentation comes as Texinfo manual, so 'info grub' gives you the full manual. Or read it online here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/ Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On 09/02/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: I was hoping for something like a man page or something tho. I would like to read up on this a little before jumping in head first. Does it have a little info on screen on what does what at least? I think the edit screen does but not sure about this part. Grub comes with a lot of documentation. Although the man page is very small, it says that the full documentation comes as Texinfo manual, so 'info grub' gives you the full manual. Or read it online here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/ If you're on KDE you can also read info documents with a much nicer, hyperlinked interface. Either enter info:grub in krunner (Alt+F2, fastest way) or as a URL in Konqueror. Works with man pages too, btw (man: instead of info:).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/02/2010 12:25 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: I was hoping for something like a man page or something tho. I would like to read up on this a little before jumping in head first. Does it have a little info on screen on what does what at least? I think the edit screen does but not sure about this part. Grub comes with a lot of documentation. Although the man page is very small, it says that the full documentation comes as Texinfo manual, so 'info grub' gives you the full manual. Or read it online here: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/legacy/ If you're on KDE you can also read info documents with a much nicer, hyperlinked interface. Either enter info:grub in krunner (Alt+F2, fastest way) or as a URL in Konqueror. Works with man pages too, btw (man: instead of info:). I knew about man:* in Konqueror but I didn't know about the info:* feature. Now that is cool. Thanks much to both of you. I got some reading to do. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Proper way of updating mysql from 5.0.90-r2 to 5.1.50?
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2010 22:25:39 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-09-01 5:18 PM, Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org wrote: I think it's not an urgent problem when this happens. With portage 2.2 and the preserve-libs FEATURE, You are assuming everyone runs unstable portage?? I'm running vanilla here, so will run revdep-rebuild when I get a minute. Until then I downgraded, because I was being shouted at ... O_O I added =dev-db/mysql-5.1.50-r1 to package.keywords and everything compiled cleanly. Roach report here. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335615 Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] I can RTFM, but can I understand it: re elog messages
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:53:55 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
Sorry for the delay in responding, been on holiday.
Defined usage:
() parentheses
[] brackets
{} braces
Defined? Defined where?
The OED.
In English*, a parenthesis is a separate expression** marked off from
the rest of the sentence with brackets.
The OED defines parenthesis in the singular as a word clause or sentence
inserted as an explanation or afterthought..., which agrees with you,
but the plural form of parentheses as a pair of round brackets used for
this.
So your statement is correct, but not relevant to the text you
quoted :P ;-)
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We all know what comes after 'X', said Tom, wisely.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Proper way of updating mysql from 5.0.90-r2 to 5.1.50?
On Thursday 02 September 2010 10:55:03 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2010 22:25:39 Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-09-01 5:18 PM, Alex Schusterwo...@wonkology.org wrote: I think it's not an urgent problem when this happens. With portage 2.2 and the preserve-libs FEATURE, You are assuming everyone runs unstable portage?? I'm running vanilla here, so will run revdep-rebuild when I get a minute. Until then I downgraded, because I was being shouted at ... O_O I added =dev-db/mysql-5.1.50-r1 to package.keywords and everything compiled cleanly. Roach report here. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335615 Hope that helps. Thanks Dale! :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Proper way of updating mysql from 5.0.90-r2 to 5.1.50?
On Thursday 02 September 2010 06:10:05 kashani wrote: On 9/1/2010 1:00 PM, Aniruddha wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2010 20:30:55 Mick wrote: But this is apparently not the proper way, because after restarting the server, apache does not show my web-page reporting there is no such a database. I checked it with phpmyadmin, and really, there is absolutely no database in mysql! I quickly restored backup version which I have done just before trying mysql-update, so my web-site is up and running. Now I would like to update mysql the right way, I but do not know how to do it... Hi Jarry, Some years ago I ran into some similar problem, I can't recall exactly what. Lost in folklore (wiki?) were some instructions to first stop mysql before you update it and I have been following them since. I stop apach mysql, run the update, dispatch-conf and then restart them both. Haven't had problems since. There may be a better way for doing this - in which case others who know better will hopefully chime in. I'm curious as well. Imo it shouldn't be necessary to stop mysql server for each update. I did in place upgrades from 5.0.12 or so on up to 5.0.77 or so. You're unlikely to have problems upgrading Mysql within 5.0.x. If you're moving up to 5.1, I would definitely stop inserts into Mysql, How do you stop inserts? Would this also apply to MyISAMs or only InnoDB? dump mysql, stop mysql, make a copy of /var/lib/mysql just in case, then upgrade to 5.1. Mysql should be able to upgrade your database in place, but it might not. If mysql-update doesn't work, importing a dumb is the most reliable way to get your data into 5.1. As other people have pointed out you'll need to revdep-rebuild or preserve the older client libs. kashani -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Overlay server down
On Wednesday 01 September 2010 17:55:17 Al wrote: Can't reach overlays.gentoo.org alias pelican.gentoo.org. Is the server down? See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335509
[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders
On 09/01/2010 10:44 AM, Andrea Conti wrote: Hi, I routinely use thunderbird to access mail on a cyrus IMAP server with very large folders (thousands of archived messages). IMAP support in the 3.1 series seems quite stable to me (whereas 2.x had frequent problems with folder indexes and 3.0.x tended to hang randomly while performing server operations) The only problem I can think of is that if you have used the default settings for the message search feature, thunderbird will attempt to build a full-text search index by downloading every message on the server (body included) when it is first run. Thunderbird will try downloading messages from multiple folders in parallel, which might cause a hign load on the server resulting in substantial delays when listing folder contents. If thunderbird is indexing messages (look at the progress indicator on the status bar), try leaving it alone until it is done -- it's a one-time process. If, on the other hand, everything is idle, I'm sorry but I have no idea. HTH, andrea The problem turned out not to be with Thunderbird at all, but with the courier-imap configuration. I found in /var/log/messages some instances of this: imapd-ssl: Maximum connection limit reached for :::10.0.0.1 It appears that the default configuration for MAXPERIP (maximum number of connections to accept from the same IP address) was set to 4. (I assume it's the default, since I never changed it myself.) Changing the value to 10 eliminated the Thunderbird problem entirely. I don't know if some other value between 4 and 10 would work as well. I'm happy with it as it is now. -- Jim
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders
Am 02.09.2010 21:43, schrieb Jim Cunning: It appears that the default configuration for MAXPERIP (maximum number of connections to accept from the same IP address) was set to 4. (I assume it's the default, since I never changed it myself.) Changing the value to 10 eliminated the Thunderbird problem entirely. I don't know if some other value between 4 and 10 would work as well. I'm happy with it as it is now. Just to understand correctly: this is a courier-parameter, not a thunderbird-parameter, right?
Re: [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird and IMAP folders
Am 02.09.2010 23:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Am 02.09.2010 21:43, schrieb Jim Cunning: It appears that the default configuration for MAXPERIP (maximum number of connections to accept from the same IP address) was set to 4. (I assume it's the default, since I never changed it myself.) Changing the value to 10 eliminated the Thunderbird problem entirely. I don't know if some other value between 4 and 10 would work as well. I'm happy with it as it is now. Just to understand correctly: this is a courier-parameter, not a thunderbird-parameter, right? sorry for the noise, you mentioned it
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On Thursday 02 September 2010 10:38:17 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If you're on KDE you can also read info documents with a much nicer, hyperlinked interface. Either enter info:grub in krunner (Alt+F2, fastest way) or as a URL in Konqueror. Not here. My firefox doesn't know what to do with info pages. What's the recipe? -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Overlay server down
On Thursday 02 September 2010 20:34:20 Aniruddha wrote: On Wednesday 01 September 2010 17:55:17 Al wrote: Can't reach overlays.gentoo.org alias pelican.gentoo.org. Is the server down? See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335509 This is worth a bug report? What's happened to the old try-again-later spirit? -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2010 10:38:17 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If you're on KDE you can also read info documents with a much nicer, hyperlinked interface. Either enter info:grub in krunner (Alt+F2, fastest way) or as a URL in Konqueror. Not here. My firefox doesn't know what to do with info pages. What's the recipe? I bet Firefox doesn't. Konqueror does tho. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] wk3 (lotus) arch
Who know some way to open this typo of file inside gentoo or export to any other file format like txt or pdf?? Thanks! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Overlay server down
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 23:14:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Can't reach overlays.gentoo.org alias pelican.gentoo.org. Is the server down? See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335509 This is worth a bug report? What's happened to the old try-again-later spirit? That's reserved for when bugs.gentoo.org is down :) -- Neil Bothwick One difference between a man and a machine is that a machine is quiet when well oiled. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Overlay server down
On Thursday 02 September 2010 23:51:49 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 23:14:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Can't reach overlays.gentoo.org alias pelican.gentoo.org. Is the server down? See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335509 This is worth a bug report? What's happened to the old try-again-later spirit? That's reserved for when bugs.gentoo.org is down :) As lists.gentoo.org is now... -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
[gentoo-user] emerging php with pdo and sqlite3 does not get the driver
Hi. I am trying to get the driver for pdo-sqlite in my php emerge. I have the use flags for sqlite3 and pdo, but when I do php --info the sqlite pdo driver is not there and this seems to be verified by doing PDO::get_available_drivers which does not list it. Any ideas on how to get this to work? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] wk3 (lotus) arch
Zhu Sha Zang wrote: Who know some way to open this typo of file inside gentoo or export to any other file format like txt or pdf?? Thanks! I'm not sure if it will or not but I would try Open Office. If it can open it and everything looks good, you can save to something else, like the Open Office extensions. The specific thing would be Open Office Calc. That is what it is on here anyway. Hope that help. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Old IDE drives and the newer PATA kernel drivers
On 09/03/2010 01:10 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2010 10:38:17 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: If you're on KDE you can also read info documents with a much nicer, hyperlinked interface. Either enter info:grub in krunner (Alt+F2, fastest way) or as a URL in Konqueror. Not here. My firefox doesn't know what to do with info pages. What's the recipe? KRunner.
Re: [gentoo-user] Proper way of updating mysql from 5.0.90-r2 to 5.1.50?
On 9/2/2010 11:12 AM, Mick wrote: On Thursday 02 September 2010 06:10:05 kashani wrote: On 9/1/2010 1:00 PM, Aniruddha wrote: On Tuesday 31 August 2010 20:30:55 Mick wrote: But this is apparently not the proper way, because after restarting the server, apache does not show my web-page reporting there is no such a database. I checked it with phpmyadmin, and really, there is absolutely no database in mysql! I quickly restored backup version which I have done just before trying mysql-update, so my web-site is up and running. Now I would like to update mysql the right way, I but do not know how to do it... Hi Jarry, Some years ago I ran into some similar problem, I can't recall exactly what. Lost in folklore (wiki?) were some instructions to first stop mysql before you update it and I have been following them since. I stop apach mysql, run the update, dispatch-conf and then restart them both. Haven't had problems since. There may be a better way for doing this - in which case others who know better will hopefully chime in. I'm curious as well. Imo it shouldn't be necessary to stop mysql server for each update. I did in place upgrades from 5.0.12 or so on up to 5.0.77 or so. You're unlikely to have problems upgrading Mysql within 5.0.x. If you're moving up to 5.1, I would definitely stop inserts into Mysql, How do you stop inserts? Would this also apply to MyISAMs or only InnoDB? Depends on what you can get away with on your system. Applies to both MyISAM and Innodb though generally it's easier to dump myisam tables. 1. restart Mysql with no network, dump, update, restart with network. This of course assumes you have no local clients but you can chmod 600 the mysql.sock as well. I've done it this way in the past, but it's not terribly fancy. Works well in environment where you're not exactly sure what's writing to your db. 2. mysql -u root then FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK while you're holding that connection open, mysqldump. I feel like I'm forgetting something here, but I think it is this simple. 3. Make a slave. Update it, test, all that fun stuff. Point to it, then update the master which is a slave of the slave. Works well, pretty easy, but you need to be comfortable with setting up replication. 4. LVM snapshots, still need to lock the tables, but usually it's fast. Good write up here. http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/21/using-lvm-for-mysql-backup-and-replication-setup/ 5. Don't bother with a backup. shut down mysql, rsync -av /var/lib/mysql/ var/lib/mysql.orig/ , upgrade, start mysql. If it doesn't work shut down mysql and move the old dir back into place. couple more links http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/backup-policy.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/backup-methods.html kashani
