[gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working 
fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
-- 
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Mick


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[gentoo-user] ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
Hi All,

On a box which dual boots into MSWindows I mount a ntfs partition using fstab 
as follows:

/dev/sda9/mnt/datantfs-3g   defaults,noatime,locale=en_GB.utf8   0 0

however, when I ls the contents all files and directories are shown as:

(d)rwxrwxrwx

The problem is that these are different to the MSWindows rights and also if I 
untar any fs in there then the access rights of that tarred fs are not 
retained.

What is an appropriate way to configure this so that the Linux user has the 
same access rights as the MSWindows user?

PS.  I have set up a UserMapping file, but this has not made any difference. 
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Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread walt

On 10/03/2010 05:05 AM, Mick wrote:

It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working
fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?


There is a 'shout' useflag.  Do you have it unset?





Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit
 It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working 
 fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.

Vx
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[gentoo-user] Re: ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 10/03/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:

Hi All,

On a box which dual boots into MSWindows I mount a ntfs partition using fstab
as follows:

/dev/sda9/mnt/datantfs-3g   defaults,noatime,locale=en_GB.utf8   0 0

however, when I ls the contents all files and directories are shown as:

(d)rwxrwxrwx

The problem is that these are different to the MSWindows rights and also if I
untar any fs in there then the access rights of that tarred fs are not
retained.

What is an appropriate way to configure this so that the Linux user has the
same access rights as the MSWindows user?

PS.  I have set up a UserMapping file, but this has not made any difference.


AFAIK, it's not possible.  Windows access rights are totally different 
than Unix ones.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 16:39:53 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 10/03/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:
  Hi All,
  
  On a box which dual boots into MSWindows I mount a ntfs partition using
  fstab as follows:
  
  /dev/sda9/mnt/datantfs-3g   defaults,noatime,locale=en_GB.utf8  
  0 0
  
  however, when I ls the contents all files and directories are shown as:
  
  (d)rwxrwxrwx
  
  The problem is that these are different to the MSWindows rights and also
  if I untar any fs in there then the access rights of that tarred fs are
  not retained.
  
  What is an appropriate way to configure this so that the Linux user has
  the same access rights as the MSWindows user?
  
  PS.  I have set up a UserMapping file, but this has not made any
  difference.
 
 AFAIK, it's not possible.  Windows access rights are totally different
 than Unix ones.

:-(  OK, thanks.
-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:29:32 walt wrote:
 On 10/03/2010 05:05 AM, Mick wrote:
  It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working
  fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
 
 There is a 'shout' useflag.  Do you have it unset?

Thanks Walter, I have it set, but no shoutcast.

From Vincent-Xavier's link I can see that vlc had to remove this functionality 
because AOL (damn them) bitched about it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
 Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit
 
  It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working
  fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
 
 If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
 http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
 situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.

Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative and 
the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find anywhere 
how to add it on ...

-- 
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Dale

Mick wrote:

On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
   

Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit

 

It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was working
fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
   

If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.
 

Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative and
the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find anywhere
how to add it on ...

   


I know nothing about vlc or icecast but I did google and find this.

http://en.flossmanuals.net/VLC/StreamingIcecast

It may help, it may not.  Let's hope.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] ridiculously wide handbook pages

2010-10-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 02 October 2010 10:06:05 Renat Golubchyk wrote:

 Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen,
 durch die sie entstanden sind.

Please translate into English - thanks.

-- 
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Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.



Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 17:29:45 Dale wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
  Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit
  
  It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was
  working fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
  
  If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
  http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
  situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.
  
  Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative
  and the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find
  anywhere how to add it on ...
 
 I know nothing about vlc or icecast but I did google and find this.
 
 http://en.flossmanuals.net/VLC/StreamingIcecast
 
 It may help, it may not.  Let's hope.  ;-)

Thanks Dale, very kind of you to look into this for me.  I actually want to 
stream from (listen to internet radio), not stream to a server.

Previous versions of vlc had a Service Discovery option which would tune in to 
shoutcast/icecast servers to list and listen to their streams.  This has now 
been removed.  A really good feature was that you could search for music of 
your liking by genre and different servers would show up to allow you to 
connect and listen.
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Dale

Mick wrote:

On Sunday 03 October 2010 17:29:45 Dale wrote:
   

Mick wrote:
 

On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
   

Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit

 

It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was
working fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
   

If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.
 

Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative
and the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find
anywhere how to add it on ...
   

I know nothing about vlc or icecast but I did google and find this.

http://en.flossmanuals.net/VLC/StreamingIcecast

It may help, it may not.  Let's hope.  ;-)
 

Thanks Dale, very kind of you to look into this for me.  I actually want to
stream from (listen to internet radio), not stream to a server.

Previous versions of vlc had a Service Discovery option which would tune in to
shoutcast/icecast servers to list and listen to their streams.  This has now
been removed.  A really good feature was that you could search for music of
your liking by genre and different servers would show up to allow you to
connect and listen.
   


While diggin, I saw a list of servers and I think they were by genre.  
Just go to google and type in icecast server and see what pops up.  
Also, watch what google suggests as you type to.  It may show a option 
we aren't thinking about.  May be just what you need.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:58 on Sunday 03 October 2010, Mick did 
opine thusly:

 On Sunday 03 October 2010 16:39:53 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 10/03/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:
   Hi All,
   
   On a box which dual boots into MSWindows I mount a ntfs partition using
   fstab as follows:
   
   /dev/sda9/mnt/datantfs-3g   defaults,noatime,locale=en_GB.utf8
   0 0
   
   however, when I ls the contents all files and directories are shown as:
   
   (d)rwxrwxrwx
   
   The problem is that these are different to the MSWindows rights and
   also if I untar any fs in there then the access rights of that tarred
   fs are not retained.
   
   What is an appropriate way to configure this so that the Linux user has
   the same access rights as the MSWindows user?
   
   PS.  I have set up a UserMapping file, but this has not made any
   difference.
  
  AFAIK, it's not possible.  Windows access rights are totally different
  than Unix ones.
 :
 :-(  OK, thanks.

I don't have ntsf-3g installed here, and have no use for it, and can't be 
arsed to install it to check :-)

But, it's mount command ought to obey the usual permission model for using 
foreign filesystems on Unix, which is:

As the models are so different and can't be mapped one to another sanely, 
mount fudges the permissions. Basically, it assigns the same umask and 
ownership to every object on the volume. The default is umask=, 
owner=root:root (actually 0:0), but that's just a default and it can actually 
be anything. Look into the docs for such mount options as 

uid
gid
umask
fmask
dmask

The last two are from vfat, they just let you use one mask for directories and 
another for files (which is quite sane actually - otherwise you get every file 
on the volume being executable which is crazy).

Assuming your uid is 1000, primary group 1000, you can then use options 
something like:

uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0007,fmask=0117

which gives a sane unix-like set of permissions. Nothing close to windows but 
a) you don't have to be root to use it and b) the www user can't trash your 
files on the ntfs volume.

Like I said, I've never used ntfs-3g but the above is a pretty common 
permissions model and it's reasonable to assume ntfs-3g probably implements it 
or something similar. As always, read the fine docs and YMMV.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 19:10:13 Dale wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 03 October 2010 17:29:45 Dale wrote:
  Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
  Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit
  
  It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was
  working fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
  
  If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
  http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
  situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.
  
  Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative
  and the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find
  anywhere how to add it on ...
  
  I know nothing about vlc or icecast but I did google and find this.
  
  http://en.flossmanuals.net/VLC/StreamingIcecast
  
  It may help, it may not.  Let's hope.  ;-)
  
  Thanks Dale, very kind of you to look into this for me.  I actually want
  to stream from (listen to internet radio), not stream to a server.
  
  Previous versions of vlc had a Service Discovery option which would tune
  in to shoutcast/icecast servers to list and listen to their streams. 
  This has now been removed.  A really good feature was that you could
  search for music of your liking by genre and different servers would
  show up to allow you to connect and listen.
 
 While diggin, I saw a list of servers and I think they were by genre.
 Just go to google and type in icecast server and see what pops up.
 Also, watch what google suggests as you type to.  It may show a option
 we aren't thinking about.  May be just what you need.

Yes, google shows and plays shoutcast/icecast music via the browser.  It is 
just that I used to do that directly from within vlc.  But now both vlc and 
amarok dropped it due to AOL.  :-(
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Notice: possible past, present and future breakage related to .la files

2010-10-03 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2010-10-03 12:15 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
 Yes once 2.1.9.x series of Portage goes stable (i.e.: if all goes well,
 by November) there won't be any need for adding the snipped; you'll
 still have to run at least once lafilefixer to avoid keeping stuff
 around on the system unfixed, but then it'll be taken care of
 transparently.
 
 The only effect of forgetting it in there is that it'll take a couple of
 seconds extra at each build since both Portage and lafilefixer iterate
 over the package content, but no ill results will be caused, it is
 pretty safe.

Thanks Diego, and thanks again for the detailed warning+fix on this
situation... as always, gentoo rocks! :)



Re: [gentoo-user] vlc-1.1.4 won't shoutcast?

2010-10-03 Thread Dale

Mick wrote:

On Sunday 03 October 2010 19:10:13 Dale wrote:
   

Mick wrote:
 

On Sunday 03 October 2010 17:29:45 Dale wrote:
   

Mick wrote:
 

On Sunday 03 October 2010 15:41:43 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL wrote:
   

Le 03 octobre à 14:05 Mick a écrit

 

It doesn't show up in the menu anymore.  The previous version was
working fine.  Am I missing some crafty USE flag?
   

If you're using vlc 1.1.0 or above, you should have read
http://www.videolan.org/press/2010-1.html which informs about the
situation and why the VLC team had had to removed it.
 

Thanks, I can see why now.  The page mentions icecast as an alternative
and the fact that this is available as an Addon for vlc, but can't find
anywhere how to add it on ...
   

I know nothing about vlc or icecast but I did google and find this.

http://en.flossmanuals.net/VLC/StreamingIcecast

It may help, it may not.  Let's hope.  ;-)
 

Thanks Dale, very kind of you to look into this for me.  I actually want
to stream from (listen to internet radio), not stream to a server.

Previous versions of vlc had a Service Discovery option which would tune
in to shoutcast/icecast servers to list and listen to their streams.
This has now been removed.  A really good feature was that you could
search for music of your liking by genre and different servers would
show up to allow you to connect and listen.
   

While diggin, I saw a list of servers and I think they were by genre.
Just go to google and type in icecast server and see what pops up.
Also, watch what google suggests as you type to.  It may show a option
we aren't thinking about.  May be just what you need.
 

Yes, google shows and plays shoutcast/icecast music via the browser.  It is
just that I used to do that directly from within vlc.  But now both vlc and
amarok dropped it due to AOL.  :-(
   


I was talking about google as a search tool.  I found this on Google:

http://dir.xiph.org/index.php

Genre is on the left but it is a short list.  No idea what you are 
looking for tho.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 October 2010 20:00:23 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 Apparently, though unproven, at 17:58 on Sunday 03 October 2010, Mick did
 
 opine thusly:
  On Sunday 03 October 2010 16:39:53 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
   On 10/03/2010 05:13 PM, Mick wrote:
Hi All,

On a box which dual boots into MSWindows I mount a ntfs partition
using fstab as follows:

/dev/sda9/mnt/datantfs-3g  
defaults,noatime,locale=en_GB.utf8 0 0

however, when I ls the contents all files and directories are shown
as:

(d)rwxrwxrwx

The problem is that these are different to the MSWindows rights and
also if I untar any fs in there then the access rights of that tarred
fs are not retained.

What is an appropriate way to configure this so that the Linux user
has the same access rights as the MSWindows user?

PS.  I have set up a UserMapping file, but this has not made any
difference.
   
   AFAIK, it's not possible.  Windows access rights are totally different
   than Unix ones.
  :
  :-(  OK, thanks.
 
 I don't have ntsf-3g installed here, and have no use for it, and can't be
 arsed to install it to check :-)
 
 But, it's mount command ought to obey the usual permission model for using
 foreign filesystems on Unix, which is:
 
 As the models are so different and can't be mapped one to another sanely,
 mount fudges the permissions. Basically, it assigns the same umask and
 ownership to every object on the volume. The default is umask=,
 owner=root:root (actually 0:0), but that's just a default and it can
 actually be anything. Look into the docs for such mount options as
 
 uid
 gid
 umask
 fmask
 dmask
 
 The last two are from vfat, they just let you use one mask for directories
 and another for files (which is quite sane actually - otherwise you get
 every file on the volume being executable which is crazy).
 
 Assuming your uid is 1000, primary group 1000, you can then use options
 something like:
 
 uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0007,fmask=0117
 
 which gives a sane unix-like set of permissions. Nothing close to windows
 but a) you don't have to be root to use it and b) the www user can't trash
 your files on the ntfs volume.
 
 Like I said, I've never used ntfs-3g but the above is a pretty common
 permissions model and it's reasonable to assume ntfs-3g probably implements
 it or something similar. As always, read the fine docs and YMMV.

Thanks Neil, much appreciated.  I'll have a play with the dmask, fmask 
settings as you suggest and see what gives.
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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ntfs-3g access rights

2010-10-03 Thread Nganon
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sunday 03 October 2010 20:00:23 Alan McKinnon wrote:

[..]

  Assuming your uid is 1000, primary group 1000, you can then use options
  something like:
 
  uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0007,fmask=0117
 
  which gives a sane unix-like set of permissions. Nothing close to windows
  but a) you don't have to be root to use it and b) the www user can't trash
  your files on the ntfs volume.
 
  Like I said, I've never used ntfs-3g but the above is a pretty common
  permissions model and it's reasonable to assume ntfs-3g probably implements
  it or something similar. As always, read the fine docs and YMMV.

 Thanks Neil, much appreciated.  I'll have a play with the dmask, fmask
 settings as you suggest and see what gives.
 --
 Regards,
 Mick

Here it is in action...

Sun Oct 03 | 22:38:57 ~ $ grep ntfs /etc/fstab
#/dev/hda3   /mnt/hda3   ntfs-3g
dmask=007,fmask=117,gid=6,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
Sun Oct 03 | 22:39:11 ~ $ ll /mnt/hda3/
total 461
-rw-rw 1 root disk  0 Mar  7  2004 AUTOEXEC.BAT
-rw-rw 1 root disk   4952 Aug  4  2004 Bootfont.bin
-rw-rw 1 root disk210 Apr 28 13:54 boot.ini
-rw-rw 1 root disk  0 Mar  7  2004 CONFIG.SYS
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Feb 20  2010 Documents and Settings
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  32768 Dec 25  2009 f66ab2f450887cbdbce72b4ac54c5a
-rw-rw 1 root disk  0 Mar  7  2004 IO.SYS
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Mar 27  2009 MinGW
-rw-rw 1 root disk166 Dec 13  2009 mp4log.txt
-rw-rw 1 root disk  0 Mar  7  2004 MSDOS.SYS
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  0 Mar 29  2010 My Photo
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  0 Mar 29  2010 My Video
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Jul 11  2009 nrn71
-rw-rw 1 root disk  47564 Aug  4  2004 NTDETECT.COM
-rw-rw 1 root disk 250560 Sep 28  2008 ntldr
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  28672 Apr 28 13:43 Program Files
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Mar  9  2004 pyqt
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  12288 Dec  7  2009 Python25
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Jul 10  2009 Python31
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  0 Sep 12  2008 Qt
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  0 Apr 28 13:35 RECYCLER
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk   4096 Jan  7  2010 System Volume Information
drwxrwx--- 1 root disk  61440 Apr 28 13:43 WINDOWS
Sun Oct 03 | 22:39:42 ~ $

..huh! I just noticed, it seems I havent booted the damn thing since
August.. [snigger]

Btw, his name is Alan, not Neil. WB Alan. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] fetchmail + certs = problems

2010-10-03 Thread Heiko Zinke
On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 12:31:38PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,
 
 fetchmail's log told me, that there is something wrong with the setup
 of the certificats.
 
 In the log there is the following section
 fetchmail: Server certificate:
 fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
 fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
 fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
 fetchmail: pop.gmx.net key fingerprint: 
 A6:57:BC:4A:97:AD:DB:99:00:E9:3A:B8:81:55:D7:B6
 fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to get local 
 issuer certificate
 fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for 
 /C=DE/ST=Bayern/L=Munich/O=GMX GmbH/CN=pop.gmx.net) is not in the trusted CA 
 certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the certificate 
 directory. For details, please see the documentation of --sslcertpath and 
 --sslcertfile in the manual page.
 fetchmail: Server certificate:
 fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
 fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
 fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
 fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: certificate not trusted
 fetchmail: Server certificate:
 fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
 fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
 fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
 fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to verify the 
 first certificate
 fetchmail: Warning: the connection is insecure, continuing anyways. 
 (Better use --sslcertck!)
 
 
 In beforehand I did the following:

i did pretty much the same thing without success :(

but the sslcertfile option in the default section of my .fetchmailrc finaly 
solved the problem:
he...@chiefwiggum:~ cat .fetchmailrc 
defaults 
proto pop3 
limit 0
mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T
sslcertfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt 

poll pop.1und1.de
user xxx keep ssl

poll pop.gmx.net
user xxx keep ssl


option sslcertfile in the fetchmail manpage and the update-ca-certificates 
manpage gave me the hint.

cheers
heiko
 
 
 
 
 
 

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from me to you, it will pass across the public Internet, easily readable 
by any number of system administrators along the way. If you have received 
this message by mistake, it would be ridiculous for me to tell you not to 
read it or copy to anyone else, because, let's face it, if it's a message
revealing confidential information or that could embarrass me intensely, 
that's precisely what you'll do. Who wouldn't? Likewise, it is superfluous 
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if you print out a hard copy or disseminate this message all over the known 
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I don't know why so many corporate mail servers feel impelled to attach 
a disclaimer to the bottom of every email message saying otherwise. If 
you don't know either, why not email your corporate lawyers and system 
administrators and ask them why they insist on contributing so much to 
the waste of bandwidth? To say nothing of making the presence of your mail 
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May as well just delete it, eh? Oh, and this message is probably plagued 
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Re: [gentoo-user] fetchmail + certs = problems

2010-10-03 Thread meino . cramer

Heiko Zinke ma...@rabuju.com [10-10-03 22:01]:
 On Sat, Oct 02, 2010 at 12:31:38PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
  
  fetchmail's log told me, that there is something wrong with the setup
  of the certificats.
  
  In the log there is the following section
  fetchmail: Server certificate:
  fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
  fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
  fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
  fetchmail: pop.gmx.net key fingerprint: 
  A6:57:BC:4A:97:AD:DB:99:00:E9:3A:B8:81:55:D7:B6
  fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to get local 
  issuer certificate
  fetchmail: This means that the root signing certificate (issued for 
  /C=DE/ST=Bayern/L=Munich/O=GMX GmbH/CN=pop.gmx.net) is not in the trusted 
  CA certificate locations, or that c_rehash needs to be run on the 
  certificate directory. For details, please see the documentation of 
  --sslcertpath and --sslcertfile in the manual page.
  fetchmail: Server certificate:
  fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
  fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
  fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
  fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: certificate not 
  trusted
  fetchmail: Server certificate:
  fetchmail: Issuer Organization: Thawte Consulting cc
  fetchmail: Issuer CommonName: Thawte Premium Server CA
  fetchmail: Subject CommonName: pop.gmx.net
  fetchmail: Server certificate verification error: unable to verify the 
  first certificate
  fetchmail: Warning: the connection is insecure, continuing anyways. 
  (Better use --sslcertck!)
  
  
  In beforehand I did the following:
 
 i did pretty much the same thing without success :(
 
 but the sslcertfile option in the default section of my .fetchmailrc finaly 
 solved the problem:
 he...@chiefwiggum:~ cat .fetchmailrc 
 defaults 
 proto pop3 
 limit 0
 mda /usr/bin/procmail -d %T
 sslcertfile /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt 
 
 poll pop.1und1.de
 user xxx keep ssl
 
 poll pop.gmx.net
 user xxx keep ssl
 
 
 option sslcertfile in the fetchmail manpage and the update-ca-certificates 
 manpage gave me the hint.
 
 cheers
 heiko
  
  
  
  
  
  
Hi Heiko,

looks good! ...and works!
Thank you for your help!

Best regards
mcc



 
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Re: [gentoo-user] ridiculously wide handbook pages

2010-10-03 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 18:32:57 +0100 Peter Humphrey
pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
 On Saturday 02 October 2010 10:06:05 Renat Golubchyk wrote:
 
  Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen,
  durch die sie entstanden sind.
 
 Please translate into English - thanks.

We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when
we created them.


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durch die sie entstanden sind.
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