Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Philip Webb wrote: 101026 Dale wrote: I'm installing fluxbox, got it emerged. I use KDE but want a back up in case a upgrade goes bad. I want to select fluxbox in kdm when I login but also know how to start fluxbox even if kdm doesn't work. Why not eschew Kdm altogether ? -- just use 'startx' + ~/.xinitrc : # PP 091002 : for Fluxbox-1.1.1 + KDE 4 xscreensaver kdeinit4 startfluxbox Fluxbox mb the most under-rated piece of software in the Linux universe. I'm only going to use fluxbox on occasion. I'm a KDE user for the most part, all I have had for several years actually. Someone did post a way to start fluxbox even if kdm won't start tho. I guess as long as X works, I can start fluxbox to at least be able to use google, forums and the mailing list for help. That said, I do like some things about fluxbox. It is seriously fast. I have a AMD 2500+ CPU with 2Gbs of ram so you can imagine how fast it is. It's fast on a 400MHz machine with a small amount of ram much less this rig. lol I may work on getting my slideshow to work on the desktop background and who knows, may have a convert. ;-) Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Dale wrote: Vincent Launchbury wrote: On 2010/10/26 07:29PM, Dale wrote: Is starting fluxbox without kdm as easy as typing startfluxbox in a console as a user? Surely it can't be that easy. No, since X has to be started first. X creates windows, but just puts them all on top of each other, with no way to move them, and no way to switch between them except by clicking. Fluxbox just runs ontop of X, and manages it's windows, adding decorations and a sane way to control them. For example, try doing: xinit xterm -e /bin/bash -- /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp and run fluxbox from the xterm. It's just a layer ontop of an already running X. You should be able to start fluxbox from a console with just: startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox which overrides the default /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc script. That should basically create an xauthority file and run xinit, which in turn starts X, then fluxbox, and waits for fluxbox to exit so it can shutdown X nicely. Regards, Vincent. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) I'll give that a try. That is what I am looking for. I once had kdm to fail on me during a KDE upgrade. I think it was a version mismatch of some kind because later on as it emerged more packages, ir worked fine. So, I'm looking to make sure it works with kdm, which it does, and without kdm, which I am about to find out. Thanks much. Dale :-) :-) Just to confirm the results. The command startx /usr/bin/startfluxbox worked fine here. I forgot to do this at first so I will add this. You have to stop xdm/kdm first. I guess xdm/kdm locks the process. Other than forgetting to stop xdm, it worked fine. Thanks much. I now have a backup GUI. So now a KDE upgrade can bork on me and I can still have something. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
Iain Buchanan wrote: On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 22:55 -0500, Dale wrote: I have a update. Check this out: hey, don't get my hopes up like that. Still no improvement on my box. But then, I am seeing nearly 6500 FPS :D I noticed something on mine when I did that. I was actually doing the command in a Konsole. It seemed to mess up again later on. It got REALLY slow. I decided to do things differently. I logged out of KDE, went to single user mode, typed in the command to set opengl to nvidia, then went back to default runlevel and logged in. It worked fine and has ever since. I have logged out several times, been experimenting with fluxbox, and it is still fast as it was. So, it may be best to run that when logged out of a GUI at least but I went to single user just to be certain. I would think that stopping xdm would work just as well but one never knows about these things. Maybe that will help. Never hurts to hope. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Thank you for your answers. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. Here are the specifications: Specifications Processor Cache Memory Support Intel® i7 Quad Core™ Processor CPU Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium Chipset Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset Main Memory DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM, 3 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 12GB SDRAM Display 17.3 16:9 Full HD (1920x1080)/HD+ (1600x900) LED backlight,Asus Splendid Video Intelligent Technology Video Graphics Memory NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 425M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM Hard Drive2.5 9.5mm SATA 640GB ,5400rpm 750GB,7200rpm 500GB,5400rpm;7200rpm 320GB,5400rpm;7200rpm Dual HDD support Optical Drive DVD Super Multi Double Layer Blu-ray RW Card Reader 4 in 1 SD,MMC,MS,MS-Pro card reader Video Camera 2.0 Mega Pixel web camera (Optional) Fax/Modem/LAN/WLANIntegrated 802.11 b/g/n Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.1+EDR (optional) 10/100/1000 Base T Interface 1 x E-SATA (USB 2.0 combo)1 x Microphone-in jack 1 x Headphone-out jack (S/PDIF) 1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor 2 x USB 2.0 ports 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert 1 x HDMI 1 x WLAN On/Off Switch Audio Bang Olufsen ICEpower® SonicFocus Built-in speaker and microphone Battery Pack Life 6 cells: 4400 mAh 47 Whrs AC AdapterOutput: 19 V DC, 6.32 A, 120 W Input:100-240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal I hope it will help you...and me;-) Roger
[gentoo-user] How should I keep my contacts ?
Hi, I'm looking for a way to keep my contacts. What I prefer is a server with database, lets say sqlite, and a front end. I need to read again the LDAP configuration, but wanted to know if there is something similar but less tedious. Regards, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I keep my contacts ?
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:40 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Kfir Lavi did opine thusly: Hi, I'm looking for a way to keep my contacts. What I prefer is a server with database, lets say sqlite, and a front end. I need to read again the LDAP configuration, but wanted to know if there is something similar but less tedious. akonadi -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I keep my contacts ?
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:40 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Kfir Lavi did opine thusly: Hi, I'm looking for a way to keep my contacts. What I prefer is a server with database, lets say sqlite, and a front end. I need to read again the LDAP configuration, but wanted to know if there is something similar but less tedious. akonadi -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Is there something that don't involve kde or gnome? I'm running a clean fluxbox. Tnx, Kfir
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Upgrading from FX-5200 to a GeForce 6200 512MB
On Tuesday 26 October 2010 18:28:16 Arttu V. wrote: ~ $ equery belongs glxinfo [ Searching for file(s) glxinfo in *... ] x11-apps/mesa-progs-7.7 (/usr/bin/glxinfo) ~ $ equery belongs glxgears [ Searching for file(s) glxgears in *... ] x11-apps/mesa-progs-7.7 (/usr/bin/glxgears Thank you, kind Sir! I didn't have that program installed. -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
[gentoo-user] scrapping hal
I've been off the list a good while and wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. I understand it is being done away with upstream and will probably require some changes on users part. I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. Other things, I noticed was the onetime I did try to dump hal I ended up with no mouse or keyboard and fiddled with that a couple days, finally going back to hal. That has been probably a yr or more ago now. Back to the point: Can anyone provide some URLS that will help me form a battle plan or even better a brief outline of (generally) how to proceed with more or less painlessly dumping hal?
Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:06 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Harry Putnam did opine thusly: I've been off the list a good while and wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. I understand it is being done away with upstream and will probably require some changes on users part. I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. Other things, I noticed was the onetime I did try to dump hal I ended up with no mouse or keyboard and fiddled with that a couple days, finally going back to hal. That has been probably a yr or more ago now. Back to the point: Can anyone provide some URLS that will help me form a battle plan or even better a brief outline of (generally) how to proceed with more or less painlessly dumping hal? It should all just work automagically with no real effort from you. However, you cannot just unmerge hal and expect stuff to work, you might still need it, as in: $ emerge -pv --depclean hal Calculating dependencies... done! sys-apps/hal-0.5.14-r3 pulled in by: app-cdr/k3b-2.0.1 app-emulation/virtualbox-ose-3.2.10 app-misc/hal-info-20091130 dev-libs/e_dbus- kde-base/solid-4.5.2 media-gfx/gimp-2.6.10 media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.9 Recent xorg-server (i.e. 1.9.1 do not have hal in USE anymore. For earlier versions, you may still need to set USE=-hal udev for xorg-server in package.use. Then rebuild xorg-server. If you are *updating* xorg-server while doing this, then you might need to rebuild mesa and all the drivers as usual for an xorg update. As for xorg.conf. It's not quite true that you don't need an xorg.conf - this is still needed to define Screens and Devices if you have more than just one video adapter at native resolution. The part you don't need without hal is the Input section. Once you have rebuilt xorg-server and made sure you run a recent udev plus evdev in the kernel, comment out ALL Input sections in xorg.conf and all references to them. Restart X. It should all JustWork(tm). In the rare event it doesn't, post back with logs etc and we'll take it from there. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. I think you would use xrandr to set it, or your desktop environment's GUI settings panel (or equivalent).
Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. I think you would use xrandr to set it, or your desktop environment's GUI settings panel (or equivalent). Also, I think if you still need to use an xorg.conf file if you want to use the proprietary NVIDIA or ATI drivers. If you're using the standard xorg drivers then it should all probe and configure automagically. In theory. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I keep my contacts ?
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 16:42:16 Kfir Lavi wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:13 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Kfir Lavi did opine thusly: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:40 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, Kfir Lavi did opine thusly: Hi, I'm looking for a way to keep my contacts. What I prefer is a server with database, lets say sqlite, and a front end. I need to read again the LDAP configuration, but wanted to know if there is something similar but less tedious. akonadi -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Is there something that don't involve kde or gnome? I'm running a clean fluxbox. I'm going to answer your exact question with the only answer it deserves: text file with vi frontend To get a better answer, compose a better mail. To find out how to do that, google how to ask questions by Eric S.Raymond, read his essay, then come back and try again. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com Ok I will, Tnx for your help, I need to read this too one day. If a front end to sqlite is needed then you can use sqlite on the CLI and brush up on the different commands available (man sqlite), or if you are looking for a GUI editor, you may want to consider sqlitebrowser: $ eix -l sqlitebrowser [I] dev-db/sqlitebrowser Available versions: (~) 2.00_beta1 ~amd64 ~x86 Installed versions: 2.00_beta1(10:25:20 18/07/10) Homepage:http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net/ Description: SQLite Database Browser Also, I understand that iPhone uses sqlite to manage address book entries, so you may find something which will also work on your desktop - have a look in Google. I came across these pages as a starter for 10: http://probertson.com/projects/addressbook/ http://www.dprogramming.com/enticeaddrbook.html HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: vmware - help
On Monday 25 October 2010 22:02:32 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:05 on Monday 25 October 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:55:53 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Not what you asked for, but my advise is to upgrade to a newer version of Workstation :P 7.1.2 is the current version (and it's in the vmware overlay.) $100+tax is a lot to pay to upgrade something you only use sporadically. This is also not the kind of solution you wanted, but I got fed up with the eternal bullshit of dealing with vmware. All that nonsense with aany-any not actually building with a kernel more recent than $X months where X is always kinda large. Installed VirtualBox. Build/get new appliance if necessary. All issues sorted. +1 The binary is particularly quick easy to install set up (for personal use). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I keep my contacts ?
On 27 Oct 2010, at 14:40, Kfir Lavi wrote: ... I'm looking for a way to keep my contacts. What I prefer is a server with database, lets say sqlite, and a front end. I need to read again the LDAP configuration, but wanted to know if there is something similar but less tedious. AIUI CardDAV is supposed to be the new way to do this. AIUI the idea is that you don't want users modifying LDAP data, but they might want to add notes for their contacts, and two users may have different notes, or even different phone numbers for the same contact (the person entrusts only one of the employees with their home phone number, for example). In the Windows ecosystem Exchange handles mail, calendaring and contacts. I think the idea is that CardDAV joins IMAP and CalDAV and in offering an open-standards answer to the same problems. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 16:32 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: Seriously take a look at your swapiness value. The default value cannot be right every particular case. it's 60. That seems a little high based on what you told me, but I have no reference value to compare it to from 2-3 weeks ago. well, in the last few days I haven't seen any swap usage at all, which is how the system used to run! Strange how the swappiness changed so dramatically in recent kernels. thanks, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I can't die until the government finds a safe place to bury my liver. -- Phil Harris
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Hi, Ask not will this work on Gentoo, rather ask will this work on Linux! You'll get much better responses to your research on google at least. If it works on any mainstream Linux distribution, there's a 99.9% chance it will work on Gentoo. For example, I just did a google search for NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 425M linux and found out in a few seconds that it probably works with nvidia-drivers 260.19.06, but not nouveau (open source drivers). http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers tells me that nvidia-drivers 260.19.06 and 260.19.12 are hard-masked because they're in the beta phase, so you may or may not have success with them. You can repeat that search (hardware-device linux) for all the usual problematic hardware that you decide you must have working: * video camera * wireless * ethernet * bluetooth * audio however you need the actual chip or vendor name, for example Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 not just Integrated 802.11. The specs you gave are a bit light on those details. The best way to do this is run lspci on the box in the store as someone mentioned. Yes you will be able to install Linux on it for sure. Still not sure about 100% hardware compatibility. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au We have not inherited the earth from our parents, we've borrowed it from our children.
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 27 October 2010 06:52:10 Dale wrote: I once had kdm to fail on me during a KDE upgrade. I think it was a version mismatch of some kind because later on as it emerged more packages, it worked fine. Whenever I have a wholesale upgrade of KDE to do, I restart with no X* (just the six VTs) and do the upgrade from there. Much safer. * I keep a no-X startup profile in grub.conf. It omits the extra things that KDE needs, like HAL and consolekit, and includes gpm. Occasionally handy, and well worth the effort of maintaining grub.conf. It's sort of hard to check my email with no GUI tho. Seamonkey seems to need a GUI of some kind to work right. ;-) I usually start a upgrade just before I take a nap. Now, if I need to I can use Fluxbox while KDE upgrades. I might also add, if I hadn't logged out of KDE while the upgrade was in progress, it would have kept working since it was already loaded. I think the problem was that kdelibs had upgraded but the other stuff was still the previous version and they just didn't like each other. I'm hoping to build me another rig pretty soon. Then I will have a back up. May have to get me one of those keyboard/monitor switch thingys. Are you also saying you reboot when you upgrade KDE? Why? This is Linux. Rebooting after or before a GUI upgrade is not needed. At worst a /etc/init.d/xdm restart would reload the GUI stuff. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:17:30 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: it's 60. That seems a little high based on what you told me, but I have no reference value to compare it to from 2-3 weeks ago. well, in the last few days I haven't seen any swap usage at all, which is how the system used to run! Strange how the swappiness changed so dramatically in recent kernels. I wondered the same when I checked and saw that my computers were using 60 too. But when I googled about it I found references to a default of 60 from over a year ago. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living it remains popular. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 08:17:30 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: it's 60. That seems a little high based on what you told me, but I have no reference value to compare it to from 2-3 weeks ago. well, in the last few days I haven't seen any swap usage at all, which is how the system used to run! Strange how the swappiness changed so dramatically in recent kernels. I wondered the same when I checked and saw that my computers were using 60 too. But when I googled about it I found references to a default of 60 from over a year ago. That was about the time mine got changed. I always wondered how that got changed. Since I added it to rc.conf, that should keep it from getting changed again. May want to do the same on yours too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal
101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; update to Xorg-server = 1.8.0 -drivers = 1.8 Xinit = 1.2.1 + drivers ; re-merge Exo Thunar ; delete refs to 'mouse' 'keyboard' in xorg.conf ; remove 'hald' fr /etc/runlevels/default/ . IIRC Hal is needed to the KDE desktop, but not for most KDE apps; I use Fluxbox + quite a few KDE apps; Exo Thunar belong to Xfce. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
101027 Dale wrote: It's sort of hard to check my email with no GUI tho. Have you looked at Mutt ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: That was about the time mine got changed. I always wondered how that got changed. Since I added it to rc.conf, that should keep it from getting changed again. May want to do the same on yours too. Usually you put stuff like that in /etc/sysctl.conf. IIRC the key is vm.swappiness.
[gentoo-user] Re: scrapping hal
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net writes: 101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : Nice .. many thanks but one question To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; So no kind of hal flag in make.conf, or is `-hal' a typo that should be `drop 'hal' flag?
[gentoo-user] Re: scrapping hal
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net writes: 101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : Nice .. many thanks but one question To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; So no kind of hal flag in make.conf, or is `-hal' a typo that should be `drop 'hal' flag?
Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox and using kdm
Philip Webb wrote: 101027 Dale wrote: It's sort of hard to check my email with no GUI tho. Have you looked at Mutt ? I'm guessing it is a command line thing. I like a GUI. I could have used Lynx to access my email and not even have fluxbox. ^_^ Gmail has web access so I could do it that way I guess. Notice I said it was hard not impossible? I think impossible for me would have been more accurate tho. Lynx is not on my list of things I like and I suspect mutt would be second. lol I got KDE, I got Fluxbox. As long as X itself is working, I'm good to go. I hope anyway. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] scrapping hal
Philip Webb wrote: 101027 Harry Putnam wrote: I wondered if there is some kind of guide to scrap hal. From my notes, having done it on 2 desktops machines + 1 netbook : To remove Hal : drop '-hal' flag, add 'udev' flag ; update to Xorg-server= 1.8.0 -drivers= 1.8 Xinit= 1.2.1 + drivers ; re-merge Exo Thunar ; delete refs to 'mouse' 'keyboard' in xorg.conf ; remove 'hald' fr /etc/runlevels/default/ . IIRC Hal is needed to the KDE desktop, but not for most KDE apps; I use Fluxbox + quite a few KDE apps; Exo Thunar belong to Xfce. I think KDE is moving away from hal to tho. I read somewhere the switch is coming. I think it is switching to policykit at some point. I notice it is already in the USE flags for kdelibs here, disabled here at the moment tho. That would be if it doesn't change again. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: scrapping hal
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. I think you would use xrandr to set it, or your desktop environment's GUI settings panel (or equivalent). I may be using xrandr wrong but it doesn't do the trick used like this: I'm running an `emerge world' so didn't want to close down X so I used Ctrl-alt F1 to leave X and then Ctrl-alt F2 to login on a different virtual terminal. Then commented out the `Virtual' line in xorg.conf: EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 #Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Then startx on a different display. startx -- :1 Once X is up: xrandr no args shows 1280x1024 as being the highest resolution. xrandr -s 2048x1536 shows: Size 2048x1536 not found in available modes The xfce display setting tool also shows 1280 as the highest possible setting. I've asked before where else this might be set... in more than 1 forum. I think you may find its not all that easy to set a Resolution way higher than your card supports.
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
Adam Carter wrote: On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: That was about the time mine got changed. I always wondered how that got changed. Since I added it to rc.conf, that should keep it from getting changed again. May want to do the same on yours too. Usually you put stuff like that in /etc/sysctl.conf. IIRC the key is vm.swappiness. Looking at the man page, I would think you are correct but I don't see a example on that setting. I'll have to google for it I guess. Putting it in rc.conf does work tho. I also used to have to adjust my fan divisor settings and I did that in rc.conf as well. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] swap usage creeping up
Usually you put stuff like that in /etc/sysctl.conf. IIRC the key is vm.swappiness. Looking at the man page, I would think you are correct but I don't see a example on that setting. I'll have to google for it I guess. Putting it in rc.conf does work tho. I also used to have to adjust my fan divisor settings and I did that in rc.conf as well. IIRC you're using echo 10 /proc/sys/vm/swappiness. If it were me if would use vm.swappiness=10 in sysctl since in this case the control option is available, then fall back to /etc/conf.d/local.start for echo 10 type stuff if there was no sysctl option.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: scrapping hal
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:54:51 Harry Putnam wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: I'm also guessing there is some kind of replacement that I need to learn about if it effects my longtime reliance on xorg.conf to keep using my huge desktops I like to use. For yrs I've used. Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection in /etc/X11/xorg.conf To get a 2048x1536 desktop to flop around on. I've never seen or heard of a way to get that without using xorg.conf. I think you would use xrandr to set it, or your desktop environment's GUI settings panel (or equivalent). I may be using xrandr wrong but it doesn't do the trick used like this: I'm running an `emerge world' so didn't want to close down X so I used Ctrl-alt F1 to leave X and then Ctrl-alt F2 to login on a different virtual terminal. Then commented out the `Virtual' line in xorg.conf: EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #1024x768 800x600 640x480 #Virtual 2048 1536 ViewPort0 0 EndSubsection EndSection Then startx on a different display. startx -- :1 Once X is up: xrandr no args shows 1280x1024 as being the highest resolution. xrandr -s 2048x1536 shows: Size 2048x1536 not found in available modes The xfce display setting tool also shows 1280 as the highest possible setting. I've asked before where else this might be set... in more than 1 forum. I think you may find its not all that easy to set a Resolution way higher than your card supports. Did you look at the man page for xrandr? I think you need the --fb --panning options. There is even an example towards the end of the man page. -- Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC.http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. Then, when you do, you'll be a mile away, and you'll have their shoes.