Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 03:28, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 02:22 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Good grief! How'd you do that?! *bow in respect* Rgds, Well, firstly, I managed to get it down to 3MB (though I cheated *a little*): lilpenguin ~ # sync ; echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches # kinda cheating lilpenguin ~ # free -m total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 43 5 37 0 0 1 -/+ buffers/cache: 3 39 Swap: 0 0 0 lilpenguin ~ # uname -srm Linux 2.6.36-gentoo-r8 x86_64 lilpenguin ~ # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/vda1 4.0G 157M 3.6G 5% / shm 22M 0 22M 0% /dev/shm So what it is is this: * kvm with virtio devices * no udev (static /dev) * serial console only * no services in default runlevel * tight module-less virtio-based kernel (booted externally) * no extra (virtual) hardware * everything compiled with -Os Unfortunately, I can't go module-less; xtables-addons requires modules support. How do you get static /dev ? I could probably get it lower by tweaking the kernel a bit more. Also it would probably use slightly less RAM if it were 32-bit. Also, the biggest user of memory are /bin/bash and /bin/login. I could minimize memory further by making the login shell ash or dash. I also rely on lots of bash scripts. *sigh* ... I'll never get it as small as yours... but still I *am* interested in your memory-saving tricks :-) Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a local web server
On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:03:10 -0700, kashani wrote: * apache2 has detected an error in your setup: apache2: Syntax error on line 149 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 4 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/70_mod_php5.conf: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Incidentally, apache is wrong to complain of syntax errors - they're errors of configuration, not syntax. Apache doesn't recognize the syntax, therefore it's a syntax error. It does recognise the syntax, otherwise it wouldn't be trying to load the module. I agree, it's a misleading error message. -- Neil Bothwick Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to install viewvc w/o apache and related cruft?
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:24:04 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: How do I convince portage that viewvc does not require an external web server and I don't want apache or webappconifg installed? It's a web app, Yes, it can be a web app. It can also be run stand-alone using its own web server with no external dependancies other than python and support for the VC system you want to use. I see. Try putting apache in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided. That seems like a kludge that's likely to cause problems later. It is :( ISTM that the ebuild is broken. I'll have to take a shot at fixing the ebuild so it doesn't depend on apache and webapp-config unless you install it USE flags telling it you want it to use apache and webapp-config. From a quick glance at the webapp eclass, it looks like you need to set WEBAPP_OPTIONAL=yes in the ebuild. -- Neil Bothwick Fer sail cheep, Windows spel chekcer, wurks grate signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:43:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I've decided to revert to Neil's method (once I've shaken this infection off). Could you please confirm that the infection is in no way linked to me or my method :-O -- Neil Bothwick Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 12:43:44 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I've decided to revert to Neil's method (once I've shaken this infection off). Could you please confirm that the infection is in no way linked to me or my method :-O I hope you get rid of the infection but don't send it this way. I don't need a trip to the hospital again. Having folks check on you is nice but I would prefer hotel room service to a hospital nurse and a pricey Dr. o_O Of course, I would rather spend the money on building a computer too. More fun than wondering if you are about to meet your maker. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
I use strace to trace syscalls of
`/opt/Adobe/flash-player/libflashplayer.so` and found many errors like this:
{{{
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
madvise(0xdf2, 3424256, MADV_DONTNEED) = 0
--- SIGPROF (Profiling timer expired) @ 0 (0) ---
}}}
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance :)
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Friday 01 April 2011 22:35:39 Einux wrote:
Adobe-flash becomes quite slow in my laptop after I updated world(or
maybe I
reconfigured kernel options) several days ago. I've made a lot of
modifications, so I'm not sure exactly which action leads to the
malfunction
of adobe-flash.
adobe flash is just slow with composite. And its performance differs
greatly
between minor versions.
--
Best Regards,
Einux
[gentoo-user] Re: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
On 04/01/2011 07:35 AM, Einux wrote: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow in my laptop after I updated world(or maybe I reconfigured kernel options) several days ago. I've made a lot of modifications, so I'm not sure exactly which action leads to the malfunction of adobe-flash. I use the latest stable version of adobe-flash(10.2.153.1), nvidia(260.19.36). What you guys know what factors are affecting the performance of adobe-flash? Here's the recent main modifications to my system: 1. (/etc/make.conf) change CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS from -O2 -march=i686 -pipe to -O2 -march=native -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 2. change the *Preemption Model in the kernel config from Voluntary Kernel Preemption to Preemptible Kernel 3. excluded SMT scheduler support in the kernel config(my CPU doesn't support hyper-threading) 4. I tried the latest 2.6.38 gentoo-sources, and roll back to 2.6.36-r8 Make sure you are using the nvidia proprietary libraries: $eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia * -- this one [2] xorg-x11
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On 04/01/2011 01:23 PM, Yohan Pereira wrote: On Friday 01 Apr 2011 08:39:04 PM walt wrote: The good old nv driver still works with 1.10, happily. have you tried nouveau? works well here. Yes, a few months ago, but I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. The drivers worked well about 90% of the time and were unusable the other 10%. I reverted to xorg 1.95 and all is good again :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Any bought a laptop that Just Works?
I have a Lenovo's Ideapad Z360 . He works fine except for haven't support of Optimus Technology on Linux. But the NVIDIA VGA can be deactivated in bios and the battery consuption are decreased. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 310M] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) It's a great machine at all. Att
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:24 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: Unfortunately, I can't go module-less; xtables-addons requires modules support. How do you get static /dev ? Go into /etc/conf.d/rc and change RC_DEVICES to static. Also if you are using virtio block devices (as I am) then you will need to manually create the /dev/vd* device nodes else the vm won't find the virtual drives. I could probably get it lower by tweaking the kernel a bit more. Also it would probably use slightly less RAM if it were 32-bit. Also, the biggest user of memory are /bin/bash and /bin/login. I could minimize memory further by making the login shell ash or dash. I also rely on lots of bash scripts. *sigh* ... I'll never get it as small as yours... but still I *am* interested in your memory-saving tricks :-) I'm not saying replace bash with dash. I'm saying change your login shell with dash (i.e. chsh). Moreover, dash is POSIX compliant so it should be able to be used with most shell scripts. The only reason you need bash around is that unfortunately baselayout-1 depends on some bash-specific features (like bash arrays), so you can't completely get rid of it. But for most stuff dash is fine.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Albert Hopkins wrote: I'm not saying replace bash with dash. I'm saying change your login shell with dash (i.e. chsh). Moreover, dash is POSIX compliant so it should be able to be used with most shell scripts. The only reason you need bash around is that unfortunately baselayout-1 depends on some bash-specific features (like bash arrays), so you can't completely get rid of it. But for most stuff dash is fine. I would hate to know that you guys got bored and needed something to do. LOL Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow.
I did set opengl to use nvidia. ;) On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 7:27 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/01/2011 07:35 AM, Einux wrote: Adobe-flash becomes quite slow in my laptop after I updated world(or maybe I reconfigured kernel options) several days ago. I've made a lot of modifications, so I'm not sure exactly which action leads to the malfunction of adobe-flash. I use the latest stable version of adobe-flash(10.2.153.1), nvidia(260.19.36). What you guys know what factors are affecting the performance of adobe-flash? Here's the recent main modifications to my system: 1. (/etc/make.conf) change CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS from -O2 -march=i686 -pipe to -O2 -march=native -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe 2. change the *Preemption Model in the kernel config from Voluntary Kernel Preemption to Preemptible Kernel 3. excluded SMT scheduler support in the kernel config(my CPU doesn't support hyper-threading) 4. I tried the latest 2.6.38 gentoo-sources, and roll back to 2.6.36-r8 Make sure you are using the nvidia proprietary libraries: $eselect opengl list Available OpenGL implementations: [1] nvidia * -- this one [2] xorg-x11 -- Best Regards, Einux
Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up a local web server
* Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com [110402 01:15]: dig you build php with an apache2 flag to enable the Apache module? And you'll also need this in your httpd.conf; AddType application/x-httpd-php .php 70_mod_php5.conf in /etc/apache2/modules.d adds the handler for that automatically when PHP5 is defined (and mod_mime.c is there.) So doublecheck that php was built with the apache2 USE flag as mentioned above. I've rebuilt php after apache2 before to be sure the needed modules are installed. Also as mentioned make sure your APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2 uses -D PHP5 and not just PHP or PHP4. And finally don't forget to restart apache after emerging php Todd
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Friday 01 April 2011 17:00:41 Albert Hopkins wrote: .. got it slightly lower by switching to dash and disabling ACPI and APIC: good thing that apic has nothing to do with memory at all.
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Saturday 02 April 2011 09:57:57 Neil Bothwick wrote: Could you please confirm that the infection is in no way linked to me or my method :-O Gladly. Not sure what it's linked to, nor even what it is, but it doesn't half sap the energy. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Saturday 18 December 2010 10:18:43 Neil Bothwick wrote: I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of the work is still done locally. I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a netbook, and I've set up a chroot for each on my workstation. In the chroot I have FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to both computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box. Just to confirm, and to save me having to think more deeply than I'm able pro tem, does each chroot have identical make.conf and package.use to those on its target? And do you nfs-mount only the PKGDIR, or the whole of /usr/portage/ ? -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] *** URGENT *** xdg-open respawns itself until crash
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:44:14PM +0200, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Thanks, I'll try that - though I have not much time to do so, since the machine starts swapping (though it has 8Gb memory). Furtheron I've found out, that sci-mathematics/dataplot had BROWSER=xdg-open in it's /etc/env.d/90dataplot file. Thus it went into /etc/profile.env. I think it's very strange that a package may modify such a vital environment variable as 'BROWSER'. That is just setting the default. If you have any preferences set in your user's environment, it shouldn't be affected. Is this a bug in sci-mathematics/dataplot ? Not really. See `man xdg-open` for what this program does. (It is part of x11-misc/xdg-utils, you may also want to look at the man page for xdg-settings). The programs are *supposed* to provide cross-platform/cross-desktop/cross-toolkit interoperability. Basically trying to save you the problem from being either locked-down to your current desktop environment's way of configuring which program is used to open which type of documents and the problem of having to go into every single program to change the preferred browser in their settings when you decide that, say, you no longer want to use Firefox and now prefers Opera. In terms of a default it is a fairly sensible one, and works okay with full-blown desktop environments. (Does anyone know if it works with enlightenment?) So on my work compute with Gnome it is great. But on my home computer with Fvwm, not so much. W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. On the other hand, xorg-server 1.9.5 is perfectly fine! ;-)
[gentoo-user] renumber pages in pdf files
hello list, i' currently using an application called jpdftweak to edit metadata in pdf files, like page numbers. jpdftweak is very useful, but being a gui app it's slow for repeatedly editing many files. does anyone know a way to renumber the pages (logical numbers) in a pdf file from the command line? i would expect that this should be possible with something like ghostscript, but i can't find anything in the documentation and google doesn't show any relevant results. best, lj
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc and crossdev, anyone?
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 16:19:45 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I've found there's just too much overhead with distcc, plus much of the work is still done locally. I have a couple of Atom boxes, a server and a netbook, and I've set up a chroot for each on my workstation. In the chroot I have FEATURES=buildpkg, using an NFS mounted PKGDIR available to both computers, then I emerge -k on the Atom box. Just to confirm, and to save me having to think more deeply than I'm able pro tem, does each chroot have identical make.conf and package.use Yes. the script that I use to start up and enter the chroot for each system not only does the usual mounting of /dev/ and /proc in the chroot, it also rsyncs /etc/portage and /var/lib/portage/world* with the real target. Make.conf has to be maintained manually, because there are settings in the two that need to be different, although I suppose I could split out the common settings, USE, CHOST etc, into a separate file and source that. to those on its target? And do you nfs-mount only the PKGDIR, or the whole of /usr/portage/ ? Just PKGDIR and DISTDIR, I have an NFS exported directory that contains a global DISTDIR and individual PKGDIRS, as well as my and layman's overlays. -- Neil Bothwick We can sympathize with a child who is afraid of the dark, but the tragedy of life is that most people are afraid of the light. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] renumber pages in pdf files
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 07:04:45PM -0300, luis jure wrote: i' currently using an application called jpdftweak to edit metadata in pdf files, like page numbers. jpdftweak is very useful, but being a gui app it's slow for repeatedly editing many files. look at app-text/pdfjam The first few lines of `pdfjam --help` probably contains enough information for you to do what you want. Cheers, W -- Willie W. Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu Data aequatione quotcunque fluentes quantitae involvente fluxiones invenire et vice versa ~~~ I. Newton
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.10 breaks nvidia-drivers
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:30:02PM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 04/02/2011 06:25 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 02 April 2011 12:32:32 walt wrote: I had the same problem with slow bug-fixes for the older chipsets like mine. Is this the moment to upgrade your video card? They seem to be cheap enough, even here in UK. On the other hand, xorg-server 1.9.5 is perfectly fine! ;-) A lot cheaper than upgrading my video card, too -- they only sell the video card I need when you buy the whole laptop! -- caveat utilitor
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I would hate to know that you guys got bored and needed something to do. LOL And here I am reading this thread while Firefox using something like 800M of RAM just by itself...
[gentoo-user] remove bookmarks in pdf [was renumber pages]
on 2011-04-02 at 19:38 Willie Wong wrote: look at app-text/pdfjam hi, thanks for the suggestion, although i couldn't find any command appropriate to what i want to do. BTW, i have another one: how to remove all bookmarks form a pdf? (from the command line, i mean)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How low can you go?
Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I would hate to know that you guys got bored and needed something to do. LOL And here I am reading this thread while Firefox using something like 800M of RAM just by itself... I got you beat tho. 27229 dale 20 0 770m 271m 38m S 39 1.7 22:46.02 seamonkey-bin 27210 dale 20 0 750m 219m 38m S5 1.4 34:57.04 firefox I got both Seamonkey and Firefox running. Neat huh? Of course, I got plenty of ram. root@fireball / # free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 16080 15559520 0510 13315 -/+ buffers/cache: 1733 14346 Swap: 956 0956 root@fireball / # I wonder if we could put Linux on a old Vic-20? I think I got one out in the old shed somewhere. Dale :-) :-)
