Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-26 Thread Jonathan
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:53:32 +1000
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote:

 Make an entry in your grub.conf with gentoo=nox, so you can boot to
 command line. here's what mine looks like

What a reboot to fix Xorg keyboard drivers? Thats not the Linux way.

Press at the same time Ctrl + Alt + SysRq + r
Then press Ctrl + Alt + F1
Login as root and type emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
Then /etc/init.d/xdm restart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key



Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-26 Thread Alain DIDIERJEAN

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De: Jonathan winelauncher.jonat...@googlemail.com
À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Envoyé: Dimanche 26 Juin 2011 08h08:48 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / 
Rome / Stockholm / Vienne
Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:53:32 +1000
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote:

 Make an entry in your grub.conf with gentoo=nox, so you can boot to
 command line. here's what mine looks like

What a reboot to fix Xorg keyboard drivers? Thats not the Linux way.

Press at the same time Ctrl + Alt + SysRq + r
Then press Ctrl + Alt + F1
Login as root and type emerge x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev
Then /etc/init.d/xdm restart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

Citing Alan Mackenzies:
It's a
strange, depressing feeling when the only input device which works is the
reset button - thank goodness that isn't handled by evdev.  ;-)


-- 

Alain DIDIERJEAN  Puisque ces mystères nous dépassent
   Feignons d'en être l'organisateur




Re: [gentoo-user] no keyboard no mouse

2011-06-26 Thread Jonathan
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 08:34:30 +0200 (CEST)
Alain DIDIERJEAN alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote:

 Citing Alan Mackenzies:
 It's a
 strange, depressing feeling when the only input device which works is the
 reset button - thank goodness that isn't handled by evdev.  ;-)

Please use the  mark for quotes or it's a pain to read your reply.

Using Ctrl + Alt + SysRq + key by passes Xorg and gets handled by the kernel.

I used the same key combo to fix my Xorg drivers the other day. Yes I know I 
should of read the elog.
With the key combo you need to hit all 4 keys at the same time or it does not 
work.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Dale

Mike Edenfield wrote:

On 6/25/2011 8:04 AM, Dale wrote:


We restructured the dependency chain for fortran support,
which includes
a compile test now. The failure can be seen above.

The Problem was in short, USE=fortran was enabled by
default for linux
arches, but people tend to disable it. Depending on
gcc[fortran] doesn't
work completely as gcc:4.4[fortran] and gcc:4.5[-fortran]
with gcc-4.5
select can be installed, which would full fill the
dependency but
nevertheless doesn't give a working compiler.

So now packages depend on virtual/fortran and use an
eclass to check for
a working compiler. So if you see this message, this means
you somehow
worked around gcc[fortran].



That make sense?


Yes. He's saying they didn't change the USE flag, they changed the 
fortran dependency test to actually do a run-time check for fortran 
because the USE flag alone wasn't sufficient.


Which means you most likely had a non-working cantor and no fortran 
compiler before and just didn't notice :)


--Mike




My understanding, USE flag was there and had been for a long time, got 
changed, this thread was started, discussion was had, USE flag was put 
back the way it was.  So actually it was only not working while I was 
messing with it.  That would be true ONLY if you were using the 
defaults.  If you had -fortran then nothing should have changed as would 
having fortran enabled.  It was only folks like me that didn't have any 
mention of fortran that were affected.


Just one of those things.  ;-)   As someone else posted, this was minor 
compared to some things we have ran into.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Dale

William Kenworthy wrote:

On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 14:45 -0500, Dale wrote:
   


What I like is the speed it got corrected.  People that don't sync often
most likely didn't even know it ever changed.

 

...

I got bit, on a 6 monthly major update across multiple systems - what
were the odds of that happening?

Despite that, its small potatoes in the scheme of updating perl/python
and other major packages ...

BillK

   


Um.  Ouch !!  Well compiling gcc a couple times will give them a 
workout.  ;-)


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] cups 1.3 - 1.4 no more avahi?

2011-06-26 Thread Stroller

On 26 June 2011, at 04:42, Michael George wrote:

 I upgraded cups to 1.4.6 today and my Macs could no longer print to it.
 …
 
 I'm not sure what I'm missing for the Macs to be happy like they were
 with 1.3 and avahi.

Version of CUPS on your Mac?

http://localhost:631/

Stoller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Stroller

On 25 June 2011, at 14:58, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 25 June 2011 13:46:35 justin wrote:
 ...
 Trying to avoid any fortran at all is stupid,
 
 That's the sort of arrogance that gets developers a bad name.
 
 as already mentioned many math operations are faster if programmed in
 fortran.
 
 Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What matters 
 to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I don't need a 
 Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system resources on building one.

Please don't bitch out the devs - we have few enough of them as it is.

I have a number of bugs open (on b.g.o), one or two of which have not moved in 
months. The others are newer, and I assume they're are not going to get fixed 
much faster, and I assume the reason is that there just aren't the developer 
resources available. I mean, I could assume that the devs just hate me, but 
that seems a pessimistic attitude. I'm pretty sure they're not breaking things 
out of spite.

None of my bugs are fixed as easily as recompiling a couple of packages - I 
don't whine about trivial stuff like that - they all require manual 
intervention and that I modify ebuilds myself and keep them in local. I sunk 
several hours into this this weekend.

I would be glad to bitch out the devs and say why aren't you doing it this 
way?, why isn't this fixed yet? but I don't feel I have any right to. I'm 
reserving bitching out the devs until I can afford to pay them money on a 
regular basis. What's your entitlement?

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] KDE4 NetworkManager applet?

2011-06-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
I've just switched my laptop over to KDE4 to see how it 
feels on the smaller screen, and I can't find the KDE 
equivalent of nm-applet. KDE 3's knetworkmanager doesn't 
compile for me, and when I run the GNOME nm-applet it adds 
and then immediately removes itself from the notification area.


I use NetworkManager for VPN connections so I'd rather not 
have to switch ti wicd if possible.


Is there a KDE equivalent applet or plasmoid or whatever?

--Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 NetworkManager applet?

2011-06-26 Thread methylherd
Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 13:10:36 schrieb Mike Edenfield:
 I've just switched my laptop over to KDE4 to see how it
 feels on the smaller screen, and I can't find the KDE
 equivalent of nm-applet. KDE 3's knetworkmanager doesn't
 compile for me, and when I run the GNOME nm-applet it adds
 and then immediately removes itself from the notification area.
 
 I use NetworkManager for VPN connections so I'd rather not
 have to switch ti wicd if possible.
 
 Is there a KDE equivalent applet or plasmoid or whatever?
 
 --Mike

Hey Mike,
i prefer wicd  kvpnc. For me it seems that

* kde-misc/knetworkmanager
 Available versions:  (4) 4.4.0_p20110415!t ~4.4.0_p20110513!t
{aqua consolekit debug kdeenablefinal}
 Homepage:http://kde.org/
 Description: KDE frontend for NetworkManager

is what you are looking for.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 25 June 2011 20:12:00 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

 Try euse -I fortran.
 If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.

Nope.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

 Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes:

 I think we're not communicating then. The file I sent you was

[...]

 Egad... I wasn't far off about brain dead.  I got mixed up with
 another fellow who posted an appliance.  I'm really sorry. And thanks
 for the config... I'll try it with a kernel build shortly.

OK, trying the build now... with minor changes.. nothing that should
effect booting.

The boot process does get a little farther but comes to a halt at
  
  Switching to clock source tsc 

And there it has sat for some time now.  Apparently is not going to continue.




Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 26 June 2011 11:45:24 Stroller wrote:

 I would be glad to bitch out the devs and say why aren't you doing it
 this way?, why isn't this fixed yet? but I don't feel I have any
 right to. I'm reserving bitching out the devs until I can afford to pay
 them money on a regular basis. What's your entitlement?

I don't do that either, but calling me stupid is not the best way to get my 
sympathy.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
SNIP

 The boot process does get a little farther but comes to a halt at

  Switching to clock source tsc

 And there it has sat for some time now.  Apparently is not going to continue.

That EXACT symptom was EXACTLY what we saw on new hardware when we
didn't have the /dev/null, /dev/console issue because they were
missing from the recent tarballs. I actually had some photos that
showed it but cannot find them. Probably deleted at this point. Here's
a;link to the LKML thread and eventually Paul Hartman's pointer to
what fixed it:

https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/16/918

Please consider reviewing the links I sent earlier about the 10 or so
steps required to get them into the VM correctly.

To verify, boot the VM with the install CD, mount the partitions and
just look at /dev. Is everything REALLY there?

If /dev/null and /dev/console are there, and are special dev files and
not just regular files, then make sure you are starting udev
explicitly in rc-update.

I am copying the post so you can go through them without worrying that
you didn't find the post I'm talking about.

HTH,
Mark

[QUOTE]

I have the exact same problem as described in post #3.

As this is not my first gentoo install, I also noticed that the
English manual does not yet reflect the baselayout2/OpenRC changes.

/dev isn't populated so booting with grub init=/sbin/init 3 doesn't
do anything. Well, except for printing out the following.
Code:

/dev/initctl: No such file or directory


Here is how to fix the problem described in post #3:
(The problem being missing device nodes in /dev before /dev is mounted)

Boot from a LiveCD and chroot into your system.
Create the needed device nodes with the following commands.
Code:

cd ~
mkdir test
mount --bind / test
cd test/dev
mknod -m 660 console c 5 1
mknod -m 660 null c 1 3
cd ../..
umount test
rmdir test

(taken from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml)

OpenRC does not start udev by default at system startup. Make sure it
is started at boot:
Code:

rc-update add udev sysinit

[/QUOTE]



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Dale

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 14:58:56 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
   

Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What matters
to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I don't need a
Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system resources on building one.
 

Try euse -I fortran.
If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.

Regards
Michael

   


That doesn't appear to work like it should then.  I get this:

root@fireball / # euse -I fortran
global use flags (searching: fortran)

[+ CD   ] fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)

Installed packages matching this USE flag:
sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5

local use flags (searching: fortran)

no matching entries found
root@fireball / #

Thing is, I know a couple packages use it on this rig because I just had 
to recompile them.  Cantor and R are two that I recall.


Maybe it is because it is not a option in the list?  The USE flag that is.

Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-26 Thread Alexey Mishustin
6/26/2011, walt w41...@gmail.com вы писали:

On 06/25/2011 05:03 PM, walt wrote:
 On 06/25/2011 03:32 PM, Alexey Mishustin wrote:
 Hi.

 After updating udev the links /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd etc disappeared. There
 are four /dev/sgX but there is no /dev/srX at all. No hdX, all sdX are
 hard drives.

 That's a good thing.  The disk drivers that use/need/create /dev/hd* are 
 obsolete.

 So, I can't mount any cd or dvd.

 My drive is IDE (Pioneer).

 Mine also, not a problem.


 # dmesg | grep sr
 #

 That seems to be the problem.

sigh I beg pardon for my senility.  I was reminded while reading a different 
group
to run lsmod.

The salient lines from lsmod:

cdrom  24970  1 sr_mod

The kernel module sr_mod is selected in the kernel config menu at
Device Drivers::SCSI device support::SCSI CDROM support

I guess, you mean CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR? It was selected as Y. I changed it
to M and recompiled the kernel. The module appeared:

# lsmod | egrep rs_mod|cdrom|marvel
cdrom  24804  1 sr_mod
pata_marvell1761  0
libata123278  53
libsas,pdc_adma,sata_inic162x,sata_mv,ata_piix,ahci,libahci,sata_qstor,sata_vsc,sata_uli,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,sata_via,sata_svw,sata_sil24,sata_sil,sata_promise,pata_sl82c105,pata_cs5530,pata_cs5520,pata_via,pata_jmicron,pata_marvell,pata_sis,pata_netcell,pata_sc1200,pata_pdc202xx_old,pata_triflex,pata_atiixp,pata_opti,pata_amd,pata_ali,pata_it8213,pata_pcmcia,pata_ns87415,pata_ns87410,pata_serverworks,pata_platform,pata_artop,pata_it821x,pata_optidma,pata_hpt3x2n,pata_hpt3x3,pata_hpt37x,pata_hpt366,pata_cmd64x,pata_efar,pata_rz1000,pata_sil680,pata_radisys,pata_pdc2027x,pata_mpiix

But nevertheless there is no neither /dev/sr0, nor links to cdrom, dvd...

The same kernel (with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR = Y) works perfectly on my laptop
with internal SCSI cdrom. All links and sr0 exist there. But that's no
help for me...

--

Regards,
Alex



[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-26 Thread Alexey Mishustin
6/26/2011, Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru вы писали:

# lsmod | egrep rs_mod|cdrom|marvel
cdrom  24804  1 sr_mod
pata_marvell1761  0
libata123278  53
libsas,pdc_adma,sata_inic162x,sata_mv,ata_piix,ahci,libahci,sata_qstor,sata_vsc,sata_uli,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,sata_via,sata_svw,sata_sil24,sata_sil,sata_promise,pata_sl82c105,pata_cs5530,pata_cs5520,pata_via,pata_jmicron,pata_marvell,pata_sis,pata_netcell,pata_sc1200,pata_pdc202xx_old,pata_triflex,pata_atiixp,pata_opti,pata_amd,pata_ali,pata_it8213,pata_pcmcia,pata_ns87415,pata_ns87410,pata_serverworks,pata_platform,pata_artop,pata_it821x,pata_optidma,pata_hpt3x2n,pata_hpt3x3,pata_hpt37x,pata_hpt366,pata_cmd64x,pata_efar,pata_rz1000,pata_sil680,pata_radisys,pata_pdc2027x,pata_mpiix

Sorry,

# lsmod | egrep sr_mod|cdrom|marvel
sr_mod 10262  0
cdrom  24804  1 sr_mod
pata_marvell1761  0
libata123278  53
libsas,pdc_adma,sata_inic162x,sata_mv,ata_piix,ahci,libahci,sata_qstor,sata_vsc,sata_uli,sata_sis,sata_sx4,sata_nv,sata_via,sata_svw,sata_sil24,sata_sil,sata_promise,pata_sl82c105,pata_cs5530,pata_cs5520,pata_via,pata_jmicron,pata_marvell,pata_sis,pata_netcell,pata_sc1200,pata_pdc202xx_old,pata_triflex,pata_atiixp,pata_opti,pata_amd,pata_ali,pata_it8213,pata_pcmcia,pata_ns87415,pata_ns87410,pata_serverworks,pata_platform,pata_artop,pata_it821x,pata_optidma,pata_hpt3x2n,pata_hpt3x3,pata_hpt37x,pata_hpt366,pata_cmd64x,pata_efar,pata_rz1000,pata_sil680,pata_radisys,pata_pdc2027x,pata_mpiix

But it doesn't matter.

--

Regards,
Alex



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] using ffmpeg for screen cast

2011-06-26 Thread David Abbott
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I was trying to record my desktop using:

 ffmpeg -f x11grab -s xga -r 25 -i :0.0 -aspect 4:3 /tmp/out.mpg

 but the result is rather blurred as you can see in the attached screenshot,
 when I play it with mplayer.

 Is there some other option (codec) I should add to improve the quality of the
 captured image?
 --
 Regards,
 Mick

I have used recordmydesktop and received good results;
recordmydesktop -device hw:1 --width 1200 --height 800 -x 1900 -y 30 -o test.ogv

control alt p to pause
control alt s to stop

Adjust to taste that is on a dual screen.
HTH
David



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] using ffmpeg for screen cast

2011-06-26 Thread Albert Hopkins


On Sunday, June 26 at 18:28 (+0100), Mick said:

 Hi All,
 
 I was trying to record my desktop using:
 
 ffmpeg -f x11grab -s xga -r 25 -i :0.0 -aspect 4:3 /tmp/out.mpg
 
 but the result is rather blurred as you can see in the attached screenshot, 
 when I play it with mplayer.
 
 Is there some other option (codec) I should add to improve the quality of the 
 captured image?

Try passing -sameq

-a





[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
 SNIP

 The boot process does get a little farther but comes to a halt at

  Switching to clock source tsc

 And there it has sat for some time now.  Apparently is not going to continue.

 That EXACT symptom was EXACTLY what we saw on new hardware when we
 didn't have the /dev/null, /dev/console issue because they were
 missing from the recent tarballs. I actually had some photos that
 showed it but cannot find them. Probably deleted at this point. Here's
 a;link to the LKML thread and eventually Paul Hartman's pointer to
 what fixed it:

 https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/16/918

 Please consider reviewing the links I sent earlier about the 10 or so
 steps required to get them into the VM correctly.

 To verify, boot the VM with the install CD, mount the partitions and
 just 

look at /dev. Is everything REALLY there?

 If /dev/null and /dev/console are there, and are special dev files and
 not just regular files, then make sure you are starting udev
 explicitly in rc-update.

[...]

First, thanks for going well beyond the call of duty and showing the
patience of Job.

Those files are there already and have been all along.

But anyway I rm'ed them and followed the steps resulting in:

(From chrooted shell)

root@sysresccd /dev % ls -l console null
crw-rw 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 17:33 console
crw-rw 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 17:33 null

rc-update |grep udev
 udev |sysinit
udev-postmount | default

----   ---=---   -   

You may not have noticed that 2.6.38-r3 where your config came from is
no longer available in portage... I used -r4 first time but now
redoing it all I'm using your config but on 2.6.39-r1.  Since I can't
get the exact one you used I may as well get the latest.

So to summarize... I've used a version I bastardized, of your config, on
a different kernel version... maybe not the smartest way to go...

I've recreated /dev/console and /dev/null using the steps you quoted.

I notice on a reboot of the install media and chrooting into gentoo,
that /dev/console now has 600 permissions even though I gave it 660.
And /dev/null now has 666 although I gave it 660.

  cd /dev

  ls -l console null
  crw--- 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 13:02 console
  crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 13:02 null

Not sure if that is normal...but I think it is, anyway  building the
kernel now and we'll soon see how it works.



OK, well nothing better happens on this go around.

Boot still hangs up at `Switching to clocklsource tsc

What is so aggravating is that building a guest from debian works
first try.. no problems.  I guess I'll have to relearn apt-get and
other debian tricks if I want to get going on the reason I'm building
a linux guest.  I run gentoo on my main desktop but there, installs are
usually trouble free.

Seems like it should be just as easy with a vbox guest too since the
hardware is kept pretty simple,  but it never has been any
time I've tried it, which has been quite a few over the years.

I keep hoping it will work and try again some mnths later ... but it
never has yet.

If I want to get a tarsnap server in place (The reason I'm building a
guest) anytime soon I will have to drop gentoo as guest I'm afraid.

I may fool with it a bit more... but it's pretty discouraging.




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] using ffmpeg for screen cast

2011-06-26 Thread Mick
On Sunday 26 Jun 2011 19:09:40 Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sunday, June 26 at 18:28 (+0100), Mick said:
  Hi All,
  
  I was trying to record my desktop using:
  
  ffmpeg -f x11grab -s xga -r 25 -i :0.0 -aspect 4:3 /tmp/out.mpg
  
  but the result is rather blurred as you can see in the attached
  screenshot, when I play it with mplayer.
  
  Is there some other option (codec) I should add to improve the quality of
  the captured image?
 
 Try passing -sameq
 
 -a

WOW!  Exceptional improvement in a single stroke!  Thanks!  :)

Why is it that ffmpeg degrades the quality with default settings?  What does 
it assume that the setting is? (sorry for the newbie Qs, but this area is 
until now outside my cognitive map! ;-)

Thank you both for your suggestions.  The recordmydesktop looks good, but I am 
not sure if I will have to transcode it to make sure that it would also work 
for MSWindows users?  Is ogg MSWindows 'compatible'?

Now, I hope I'm not getting greedy, but how do I add voice recording to the 
above stanza?  Or do I have to record voice and then package it along with the 
video in a container as a separate step?

Once I achieve that how can I go back and edit the voice part?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 10:28:47 schrieb Dale:
 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 14:58:56 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
  Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What
  matters to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I
  don't need a Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system
  resources on building one.
  
  Try euse -I fortran.
  If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.
  
  Regards
  Michael
 
 That doesn't appear to work like it should then.  I get this:
 
 root@fireball / # euse -I fortran
 global use flags (searching: fortran)
 
 [+ CD   ] fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)
 
 Installed packages matching this USE flag:
 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
 
 local use flags (searching: fortran)
 
 no matching entries found
 root@fireball / #
 
 Thing is, I know a couple packages use it on this rig because I just had
 to recompile them.  Cantor and R are two that I recall.
 
 Maybe it is because it is not a option in the list?  The USE flag that is.

Iirc you had problems with -fortran, because you have packages that really 
need fortran. My suggestion was for people like Peter, who have no problems 
without fortran. It shows only packages which could perform better, if a 
fortran compiler is available and otherwise fallback to a C implementation. At 
least, I think it does :)
 
 Dale
 :-)  :-)

Michael




[gentoo-user] gcc ebuild is hogging CPU?

2011-06-26 Thread walt
Anyone emerged gcc lately?  I've been doing it all day (it seems)
so I finally used top to see if something besides gcc is using cpu.

Sure enough, emerge is constantly using 50% cpu while the compiler
is using the other half.

I tried using ebuild directly instead of emerge and I find that now
ebuild is using 50% cpu instead of emerge.

I just tried emerging firefox and I see that the compiler is getting
all of the cpu now instead of half.

Can anyone reproduce this agonizing sloth?

Thanks.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:34:56 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

 (From chrooted shell)
 
 root@sysresccd /dev % ls -l console null
 crw-rw 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 17:33 console
 crw-rw 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 17:33 null

When you chroot to the install root, you normally bind mount dev first,
so I would expect those files to be there. Are they there before you
chroot or bind mount anything?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Dale

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 10:28:47 schrieb Dale:
   

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 

Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 14:58:56 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
   

Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial. What
matters to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I
don't need a Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system
resources on building one.
 

Try euse -I fortran.
If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.

Regards
Michael
   

That doesn't appear to work like it should then.  I get this:

root@fireball / # euse -I fortran
global use flags (searching: fortran)

[+ CD   ] fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)

Installed packages matching this USE flag:
sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5

local use flags (searching: fortran)

no matching entries found
root@fireball / #

Thing is, I know a couple packages use it on this rig because I just had
to recompile them.  Cantor and R are two that I recall.

Maybe it is because it is not a option in the list?  The USE flag that is.
 

Iirc you had problems with -fortran, because you have packages that really
need fortran. My suggestion was for people like Peter, who have no problems
without fortran. It shows only packages which could perform better, if a
fortran compiler is available and otherwise fallback to a C implementation. At
least, I think it does :)

   

Dale
:-)  :-)
 

Michael

   


Thing is, I switched it back and programs on here now need fortran to 
build.  So, euse is not reporting it but R and Cantor won't build 
without fortran.  Basically, euse should also report R and cantor but it 
isn't.  If mine isn't reporting that, then Peter's may not either.


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] rfkill

2011-06-26 Thread Ignas Anikevicius
Hi guys,

I wanted to ask how to check what scripts/events are started when I
press a key? I have some automagical stuff happening when I press Fn+F5
(I have a Thinkpad x200s). To be more precise, my Wifi card is switched
off and on and I want to know what is causing this and turn it off.

Thanks a lot for your help,
Ignas

--
Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. 
A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? 




[gentoo-user] What's a KMNAME smoke?

2011-06-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

I'm getting this when running layman -S:


kde /var/lib/layman/kde (cache: parse|ebuild*#metadata-flat#assign)
 Reading category  75|155 ( 48%): kde-base .. * Unknown KMNAME 
smoke: Guessing branch name 'KDE/4.6'

 * Unknown KMNAME smoke: Guessing branch name 'KDE/4.7'


Does anyone know what that is?




Re: [gentoo-user] rfkill

2011-06-26 Thread Maciej Grela
2011/6/26 Ignas Anikevicius anikevic...@gmail.com:
 Hi guys,

 I wanted to ask how to check what scripts/events are started when I
 press a key? I have some automagical stuff happening when I press Fn+F5
 (I have a Thinkpad x200s). To be more precise, my Wifi card is switched
 off and on and I want to know what is causing this and turn it off.


You don't need a script for this. If you have the rfkill-input kernel
module or the thinkpad-acpi module they hook into the hotkeys and
drive rfkill to enable/disable radios.

Best regards,
Maciej Grela



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
SNIP

 First, thanks for going well beyond the call of duty and showing the
 patience of Job.


Gawd, you must not know about all the public help I've received here
over the years? It's the LEAST I can do.

 Those files are there already and have been all along.

 But anyway I rm'ed them and followed the steps resulting in:

 (From chrooted shell)

 root@sysresccd /dev % ls -l console null
 crw-rw 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 17:33 console
 crw-rw 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 17:33 null

 rc-update |grep udev
     udev |                                        sysinit
 udev-postmount | default

 ---        -       ---=---       -      


OK, so that's good.


I'm very curious - did you happen to try appending something like

init=/sbin/init 1

to the boot kernel command and seeing what happens? That might be
instructive about where it's really getting to or what is stopping it
from proceeding.


 You may not have noticed that 2.6.38-r3 where your config came from is
 no longer available in portage... I used -r4 first time but now
 redoing it all I'm using your config but on 2.6.39-r1.  Since I can't
 get the exact one you used I may as well get the latest.


OK, you caught me. I've now updated to 2.6.39-gentoo-r2:

mark@GentooVBVM ~ $ uname -a
Linux GentooVBVM 2.6.39-gentoo-r2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jun 26 12:22:10
PDT 2011 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU X 980 @ 3.33GHz GenuineIntel
GNU/Linux
mark@GentooVBVM ~ $

 So to summarize... I've used a version I bastardized, of your config, on
 a different kernel version... maybe not the smartest way to go...


To do the update I took the config I sent you, accepted all the
changes with the defaults, and built the kernel. No problem here. (I'm
actually writing this from within the VM itself using Firefox.

 I've recreated /dev/console and /dev/null using the steps you quoted.

 I notice on a reboot of the install media and chrooting into gentoo,
 that /dev/console now has 600 permissions even though I gave it 660.
 And /dev/null now has 666 although I gave it 660.

  cd /dev

  ls -l console null
  crw--- 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 13:02 console
  crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 13:02 null


As Neil noted, the instructions for fixing this stated not to mount
/dev before chrooting into the Gentoo build. You probably did that
correctly, but it's important as you moight be seeing something
provided by the boot environment and not something you really created.

SNIP

 Boot still hangs up at `Switching to clocklsource tsc


When we had this problem I did some reading, as I'm sure you have
also. Don't get overly fixated on that message. According to a number
of threads I read the message is the proper result of a change in how
the clock is getting set up. It's spawned earlier on and the messages
print when the asynchronous process completes. Sometimes it prints
earlier, sometimes it's the last message, but in our case it wasn't
the real cause of the problem.

The real end of the process, as far as it had gone, was that the
kernel loaded, released memory and then just stopped.


SNIP

 I may fool with it a bit more... but it's pretty discouraging.

Sorry for the problems. Report back on the init=/sbin/init 1 thing.
I'm interested.

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 15:01:19 schrieb Dale:
 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 10:28:47 schrieb Dale:
  Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2011, 14:58:56 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
  Whether many operations are written in Fortran is immaterial.
  What
  matters to me is whether any on my system are. If they aren't, I
  don't need a Fortran compiler and I'd rather not waste system
  resources on building one.
  
  Try euse -I fortran.
  If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.
  
  Regards
  Michael
  
  That doesn't appear to work like it should then.  I get this:
  
  root@fireball / # euse -I fortran
  global use flags (searching: fortran)
  
  [+ CD   ] fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)
  
  Installed packages matching this USE flag:
  sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
  
  local use flags (searching: fortran)
  
  no matching entries found
  root@fireball / #
  
  Thing is, I know a couple packages use it on this rig because I just
  had
  to recompile them.  Cantor and R are two that I recall.
  
  Maybe it is because it is not a option in the list?  The USE flag that
  is.
  
  Iirc you had problems with -fortran, because you have packages that
  really need fortran. My suggestion was for people like Peter, who have
  no problems without fortran. It shows only packages which could perform
  better, if a fortran compiler is available and otherwise fallback to a
  C implementation. At least, I think it does :)
  
  Dale
  
  :-)  :-)
  
  Michael
 
 Thing is, I switched it back and programs on here now need fortran to
 build.  So, euse is not reporting it but R and Cantor won't build
 without fortran.

That's because R needs a fortran compiler to compile. It does not have a C 
fallback solution for its maths. cantor depends on R per default. So it won't 
build until a working R is installed.
Peter is not having problems without fortran. Everything compiles fine. So I am 
quite shure he has neither R nor cantor installed or any other program that 
needs a fortran compiler to build at all.
This euse command shows only packages where fortran is optional. This means 
better performance, when enabled, in all (at least almost all) cases.

 Basically, euse should also report R and cantor but it
 isn't.  If mine isn't reporting that, then Peter's may not either.

That's impossible, I think. euse reports USE-flags. These programs don't have a 
fortran-USE-flag. R needs it unconditionally..

 Dale
 :-)  :-)

Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] zlib and WOFF

2011-06-26 Thread Stroller
Necro bump!


On 8 May 2011, at 02:31, luis jure wrote:
 …
 for some reason the file /usr/lib64/libz.so is a text file, the solution
 was linking it to the real .so file at /lib64/libz.so (or /lib64/libz.so.1
 in my case). after that lilypond builds just fine.

This isn't the best fix, IMO. AIUI these bugs have been closed WONTFIX in 
favour of bug #4411 for years. [1] [2]

Seems to me like next time you re-emerge zlib your symlink will get overwritten.

You don't give the full error message your original post, but I saw it for 
myself yesterday (sorry I no longer have it handy) and it is in fact fontforge 
that gives this error, as it's called during Lilypond's build process.

This is now logged as bug 367425 [3], and there is a patch for fontforge there.

For the benefit of posterity and anyone else who discovers this bug via google 
(this is not aimed specifically at Luis), IMO the correct fix for this is:

   mkdir -p /usr/local/portage/media-gfx/fontforge/files
   cp /usr/portage/media-gfx/fontforge/fontforge-20110222.ebuild 
/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/fontforge/
   wget https://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=273709 
   cp attachment.cgi?id=273709 
/usr/local/portage/media-gfx/fontforge/files/fontforge-20110222-zlib.so.patch

Open a text editor add one line to the fontforge-20110222.ebuild you just 
created in the local overlay:

  src_prepare() {
epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-lxkbui.patch
+  epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-zlib.so.patch
if use doc; then

Check your accept keywords for the eBuild, and:

   ebuild /usr/local/portage/media-gfx/fontforge/fontforge-20110222.ebuild 
manifest
   emerge -1 fontforge

Finally, report your success at bug 367425.

This permits you to test the ebuild for lilypond-2.14.1 at bug 370273. [4]

Stroller.




[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4411
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290974
[3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=367425
[4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370273


[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-26 Thread walt
On 06/25/2011 03:32 PM, Alexey Mishustin wrote:
 Hi.
 
 After updating udev the links /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd etc disappeared. There
 are four /dev/sgX but there is no /dev/srX at all. No hdX, all sdX are
 hard drives. So, I can't mount any cd or dvd.
 
 My drive is IDE (Pioneer).

I assume it's connected to a PATA disk controller like my dvd player is?

#lspci -k   [output edited]
00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE
Kernel driver in use: pata_via

 # dmesg | grep sg
 msgmni has been set to 1759
 Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 254)
 sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
 sd 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
 sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
 sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0

Surprise, I also have sg* devices I didn't know about:

#dmesg | grep -i scsi
Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 254)
scsi0 : sata_promise
scsi1 : sata_promise
scsi2 : sata_promise
scsi3 : pata_via
scsi4 : pata_via  - this is the dvdrom, on my old PATA controller
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  Maxtor 6Y080M0   YAR5 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  Maxtor 7Y250P0   YAR4 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk
scsi 4:0:0:0: CD-ROMATAPIiHDP118   4  GL05 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
scsi 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 5- the dvd is sg2
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
sr 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0

#ls -l /dev/sg*
crw-rw 1 root disk  21, 0 Jun 26 04:50 /dev/sg0
crw-rw 1 root disk  21, 1 Jun 26 04:50 /dev/sg1
crw-rw 1 root cdrom 21, 2 Jun 26 04:50 /dev/sg2   - sg2 again
crw-rw 1 root disk  21, 3 Jun 26 04:50 /dev/sg3
crw-rw 1 root disk  21, 4 Jun 26 04:50 /dev/sg4

I'm trying to separate kernel device support problems from udev problems, as
you can see.

#cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules 
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and set the $GENERATED variable.

# iHDP118_4 (pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0)
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=cdrom, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=dvd, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1

Note how the pci number matches the output of lspci -k.  If the number doesn't 
match
your hardware then you should delete the 70-persistent-cd.rules file and reboot.
A new file will be generated during the reboot.






[gentoo-user] Re: WAS [.. min install isos] gentoo vm guest not booting

2011-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:

 On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 13:34:56 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

 (From chrooted shell)
 
 root@sysresccd /dev % ls -l console null
 crw-rw 1 root root 5, 1 Jun 26 17:33 console
 crw-rw 1 root root 1, 3 Jun 26 17:33 null

 When you chroot to the install root, you normally bind mount dev first,
 so I would expect those files to be there. Are they there before you
 chroot or bind mount anything?

No... and I'm now getting it that they should be.

Anyway, I'm downloading the latest stage3 I found (06/14) I'll explode
it in a test directory and see whats there.  I've emerged so much
stuff now on the one I been working on that I hate to bugger it up if
there is much chance of salvaging it.  All those kernel builds left
lots of time for emerging all my pet stuff.

ok, a freshly exploded stage3 from 06/14 shows only null being an
un-bound  /dev/ and its a plain file
 # ls -l
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 14 13:08 null

So now I've got them in place BEFORE binding to the install media
/dev.

ls -l /mnt/gentoo/dev

----   ---=---   -   
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes:

[...]


 I'm very curious - did you happen to try appending something like

 init=/sbin/init 1

 to the boot kernel command and seeing what happens? That might be
 instructive about where it's really getting to or what is stopping it
 from proceeding.

No, haven't done that yet.  In fact with /dev/console and dev/null
created in an un-bound /dev as sharp eyed Neil pointed out, I can now
get farther in the boot process.

However, now I'm running into many other problems and still no boot.
many tty could not be accessed but then on reboot with SystemRescueCD
again, I see they were generated into /dev/ but are not character
files.

There was some kind of problem with fsck and at least 2 other
problems something to do with urandom and another I lost track of.

At this point, I'm going to scrap the guest as by now I don't know if
I'm coming or going with this thing.  Boot process has written junk
into dev/, I've written junk into dev/ so I'm starting clean.

I've downloaded a new stg3, new snapshot of portage so I'm going to
try with all untampered with stuff.

I guess I am to create /dev/null and /dev/console again as per
instructions (that is, in an un-bound /mnt/gentoo/dev/)

(Is it normal to find `null' created as a regular file in dev/ (before
any tampering?)

Install vim, eix, reiserfsprogs, rsyslog, grub and gentoo-sources.
Build the kernel, then see what happens. (using your config again)

If it doesn't boot I'll boot to single mode as you requested and see
what I see.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Do we have to build gcc with fortran now?

2011-06-26 Thread Mike Edenfield

On 6/26/2011 4:01 PM, Dale wrote:

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

Am Sonntag, 26. Juni 2011, 10:28:47 schrieb Dale:

Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:



Try euse -I fortran.
If anything besides gcc pops up, you should have one.



That doesn't appear to work like it should then. I get this:

root@fireball / # euse -I fortran
global use flags (searching: fortran)

[+ CD ] fortran - Adds support for fortran (formerly f77)

Installed packages matching this USE flag:
sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5

local use flags (searching: fortran)

no matching entries found
root@fireball / #



Thing is, I switched it back and programs on here now need
fortran to build. So, euse is not reporting it but R and
Cantor won't build without fortran. Basically, euse should
also report R and cantor but it isn't. If mine isn't
reporting that, then Peter's may not either.


Neither of those packages has a fortran USE flag, and 
cantor doesn't know anything about FORTRAN.


cantor has an R USE flag, to switch it's R backend on/off. R 
doesn't have a USE flag for FORTRAN because that would be 
pointless -- it *requires* an f77 compiler, so it depends on 
virtual/fortran unconditionally.


You would probably be better off using

root@platypus ~ # equery depends virtual/fortran
dev-python/numpy-1.6.0 (lapack ? virtual/fortran)

You will probably have both R and blas in that list as well. 
If so, you will need to continue to enable gcc[fortran] to 
build those.


(The fact that gcc has a fortran USE flag is only relevant 
because it's the default compiler; you could also 
potentially have ifc installed to satisfy virtual/fortran, 
rendering gcc's USE flag irrelevant.)


--Mike



[gentoo-user] Re: no cdrom (IDE)

2011-06-26 Thread Alexey Mishustin
6/26/2011, walt w41...@gmail.com вы писали:

#cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules
# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and set the $GENERATED variable.

# iHDP118_4 (pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0)
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=cdrom, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:11.1-scsi-1:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=dvd, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1

Note how the pci number matches the output of lspci -k.  If the number doesn't 
match
your hardware then you should delete the 70-persistent-cd.rules file and 
reboot.
A new file will be generated during the reboot.

My udev doesn't create 70-persistent-cd.rules, there is the
70-persistent-net.rules only.

--

Regards,
Alex