Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Where is this IP/site ?
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:15 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi all, thanks for all the input ! :) In the meantime I found this: http://www.ip-adress.com/ip_lokalisieren/ip-address where ip-aaddress is for example 192.168.192.168. ;) Further links on that page leads to a satelite-map marked with the location of the IP...plus a unknown offset of some meters/miles... Best regards, mcc For what it's worth, I wrote one too a few years back on http://www.axllent.org/projects/webtrace - Probably not as accurate as the one you posted as it uses the free version of the Geolite City database, but maybe worth a look ;) Kind regards, Ralph
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On Sun 14 August 2011 19:55:28 Allan Gottlieb did opine thusly: On Sun, Aug 14 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's installing Gnome 3 stuff. Is that what you want? Yes. That is why I am using the gnome overlay Look at your unmasking rules. They were supposed to be the ones that came with the instructions for moving to gnome 3. But I didn't realize that eix-update doesn't update layman and I need layman -S. It is still not working but I will study the new blockages arising after layman -S. That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Firmware exists but fails to load
# dmesg | grep firm [ 70.453673] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) # ls -l /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1324 Aug 12 13:09 /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw Any ideas why this fails? Filesystem is mounted, file is readable...
Re: [gentoo-user] Firmware exists but fails to load
On Mon, August 15, 2011 11:13 am, Adam Carter wrote: # dmesg | grep firm [ 70.453673] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) # ls -l /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1324 Aug 12 13:09 /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw Any ideas why this fails? Filesystem is mounted, file is readable... Is the filesystem mounted when it tries to find the firmware? In other words, are you perhaps using a ramdisk? If you have this drives as a module, can you try removing it (rmmod driver and then reloading it (modprobe driver)? If it isn't a module, can you rebuild your kernel to have the relevant driver as a module? -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Firmware exists but fails to load
Is the filesystem mounted when it tries to find the firmware? I thought it was, but having another look at dmesg, it looks like that's not the case. proxy linux # dmesg | grep eth0 [0.897559] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: RTL8168d/8111d at 0xc936, 1c:6f:65:20:3f:c6, XID 083000c0 IRQ 41 [ 70.453673] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) [ 70.461027] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 70.461050] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link down [ 70.461444] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 72.851287] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: link up [ 72.851846] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready proxy linux # dmesg | grep btrfs [1.647953] btrfs: use lzo compression [2.129807] VFS: Mounted root (btrfs filesystem) on device 0:13. In other words, are you perhaps using a ramdisk? If you have this drives as a module, can you try removing it (rmmod driver and then reloading it (modprobe driver)? If it isn't a module, can you rebuild your kernel to have the relevant driver as a module? Its not a module - i'll make it one and see how that goes.
[gentoo-user] GRUB v2
Hello List, I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being dense, or maybe it was on another list. I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid executable format, or something like that. Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags and CFLAGS of stage3?
Does anyone know what are the USE-flags and CFLAGS used for the current
stage3?
Unpack your stage3 and then
cat /var/db/pkg/sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5/{USE,CFLAGS}
amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux mudflap nls nptl openmp userland_GNU
-mtune=i686 -O2 -pipe
Regards
Re: [gentoo-user] USE-flags and CFLAGS of stage3?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 16:53, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:
Does anyone know what are the USE-flags and CFLAGS used for the current
stage3?
Unpack your stage3 and then
cat /var/db/pkg/sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5/{USE,CFLAGS}
amd64 elibc_glibc kernel_linux mudflap nls nptl openmp userland_GNU
-mtune=i686 -O2 -pipe
Thanks!
Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
On Mon, August 15, 2011 11:52 am, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello List, I'm sure I saw a thread recently describing progress in understanding and using grub-2, but now I can't find it. I have six months of articles here too, and I've searched gmane and the gentoo archive. Perhaps I'm being dense, or maybe it was on another list. I want to try another distro on an oldish box, but its gentoo grub can't chain to the grub-2 on another boot partition - it reports an invalid executable format, or something like that. Looks like time to bone up on grub-2 as it's the Coming Thing. 6 months might not be enough, there was a thread called [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2 and dates back to 9 January 2011. There also was a thread called [gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots like me by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're looking for. -- Joost
[gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
On 08/15/2011 12:13 PM, Adam Carter wrote: # dmesg | grep firm [ 70.453673] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) # ls -l /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1324 Aug 12 13:09 /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw Any ideas why this fails? Filesystem is mounted, file is readable... Is the firmware path set correctly in the kernel config? In Device Drivers-Generic Driver Options, set Firmware blobs root directory to /lib/firmware and build a new kernel. If that was already set, try to include the firmware in the kernel by setting External firmware blobs to build into the kernel binary to rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (the firmware root directory above still needs to be /lib/firmware).
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On 15 August 2011 09:27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun 14 August 2011 19:55:28 Allan Gottlieb did opine thusly: On Sun, Aug 14 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update $ man eix (...) /etc/eix-sync.conf This file stores commands and configurations to apply with eix-sync. (...) * Call layman -S (i.e. overlays are synced with layman). Hope that helps.
[gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
On 08/15/2011 04:47 PM, Philip Webb wrote: I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? You'll lose the ability to run java applets, commonly found on the web for many critical things. -- Nilesh Govindarajan http://nileshgr.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
Is the firmware path set correctly in the kernel config? In Device Drivers-Generic Driver Options, set Firmware blobs root directory to /lib/firmware and build a new kernel. I have the same kernel config as my laptop which loads intel wifi firmware from /llib/firmware ok; # zgrep -i firmware /proc/config.gz CONFIG_PREVENT_FIRMWARE_BUILD=y CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL=y CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE= # CONFIG_FIRMWARE_EDID is not set # Firmware Drivers CONFIG_FIRMWARE_MEMMAP=y # CONFIG_GOOGLE_FIRMWARE is not set Firmware blobs root directory is EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR which is only available once i enable EXTRA_FIRMWARE, but the help for that says; This option allows firmware to be built into the kernel, for the │ │ cases where the user either cannot or doesn't want to provide it from │ │ userspace at runtime So that's a workaround, not a fix, but it works so it'll do. Thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
On Mon 15 August 2011 07:17:55 Philip Webb did opine thusly: I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? I removed java from my USE for LO (plus gnome and gtktoo) and have not yet seen any ill-effects. The last time I read a definitive statement on Java for OOo was early in the 2.0 series, then it mentioned database connectivity as the prime thing that used it. That's connectivity as in Base, the Access- like db front-end thingy -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
110815 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 08/15/2011 04:47 PM, Philip Webb wrote: I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? You'll lose the ability to run java applets, commonly found on the web for many critical things. Well, I don't use Libreoffice or Cups to access the WWW nor do I use KDE3 for more than a couple of games: I manage my desktop with Fluxbox have some KDE4 apps installed. What am I going to need Java applets for ? Any other comments ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
On Monday 15 Aug 2011 12:21:13 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 08/15/2011 04:47 PM, Philip Webb wrote: I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? You'll lose the ability to run java applets, commonly found on the web for many critical things. Unless you care to explain what you define as a web critical thing, I will continue to run my boxen without Java - just as I have been doing for at least 8 years so far ... ;-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
On 08/15/2011 02:59 PM, Adam Carter wrote: Is the firmware path set correctly in the kernel config? In Device Drivers-Generic Driver Options, set Firmware blobs root directory to /lib/firmware and build a new kernel. [...] Firmware blobs root directory is EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR which is only available once i enable EXTRA_FIRMWARE, but the help for that says; This option allows firmware to be built into the kernel, for the │ │ cases where the user either cannot or doesn't want to provide it from │ │ userspace at runtime So that's a workaround, not a fix, but it works so it'll do. Thanks. It's not a workaround, but how it's supposed to work. Loading from userspace means using a user-space program to load the firmware. This is not what you're trying to do, since you don't have such a program. You're trying to have the kernel itself load the firmware, and the EXTRA_FIRMWARE mechanism is how this is done. Your other option is writing a userspace program that reads the firmware after the kernel has booted and patches it into the hardware. But why would you want to do something like that anyway?
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote: There also was a thread called [gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots like me by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're looking for. That looks like the one. Thanks Joost. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote: There also was a thread called [gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots like me by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're looking for. That looks like the one. Thanks Joost. You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :)
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
110815 Alan McKinnon wrote: I removed Java from my USE for LO + gnome and gtk too and have not yet seen any ill-effects. The last time I read a definitive statement on Java for OOo was early in the 2.0 series, when it mentioned database connectivity as the prime thing that used it, as in Base, the Access-like db front-end thingy yes, i recall reading that Java was necessary to use OO's database. however, i have no use for that in the foreseeable future. does anyone else know whether Java is needed for LO's database stuff ? so far, it looks as if i shd remove the USE flag, recompile the relevant pkgs see what happens when i try using them. further comments still very welcome thanks for those so far. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
It's not a workaround, but how it's supposed to work. Loading from userspace means using a user-space program to load the firmware. This is not what you're trying to do, since you don't have such a program. ? Udev has been the standard way to service kernel firmware requests for quite some time. The relevant bit is in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules . However, udevd is only started after the kernel is loaded, and therefore will only load firmware for drivers which are built as modules. Firmware for built-in drivers must either be compiled into the kernel or be provided in an initrd along with a suitable helper. Is there a specific reason why the r8169 driver cannot be loaded as a module? AFAIK the only case in which you *need* a built-in net driver is if you're doing root over NFS. Your other option is writing a userspace program that reads the firmware after the kernel has booted and patches it into the hardware. Patching is always done by the kernel driver. The userspace helper only has to answer kernel requests for a specific firmware by providing the correct data. But why would you want to do something like that anyway? Typical reasons are to keep the kernel image size down and to avoid having to recompile the kernel whenever a new firmware version is released. Though I'll admit that kernel releases tend to be more frequent than new firmware versions :) Just my .02€ andrea
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
Am 15.08.2011 16:05, schrieb Philip Webb: 110815 Alan McKinnon wrote: I removed Java from my USE for LO + gnome and gtk too and have not yet seen any ill-effects. The last time I read a definitive statement on Java for OOo was early in the 2.0 series, when it mentioned database connectivity as the prime thing that used it, as in Base, the Access-like db front-end thingy yes, i recall reading that Java was necessary to use OO's database. however, i have no use for that in the foreseeable future. does anyone else know whether Java is needed for LO's database stuff ? so far, it looks as if i shd remove the USE flag, recompile the relevant pkgs see what happens when i try using them. further comments still very welcome thanks for those so far. This should apply: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Java_and_OpenOffice.orgoldid=15 Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] [science overlay] librecad ebuild troubles?
I am trying to emerge librecad-1.0.0_rc1 from the science overlay; however, it appears to be missing some crucial steps (silly things like fetching the source and building the program). The output from emerge borders on trivial: http://pastebin.com/1HN9x299 Since that doesn't look very helpful, I also tried emerging with --debug. http://pastebin.com/ZcGnxhyc Unfortunately, I'm not practiced enough at reading this (nor educated enough in how ebuilds work internally) to really read through that. Any ideas why this ebuild is essentially doing nothing? Thanks, -Andy
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 6:17 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? wizards/templates in LO, and some export filters in LO use java.
Re: [gentoo-user] [science overlay] librecad ebuild troubles?
On 15/08/11 16:43, Andy Wilkinson wrote: I am trying to emerge librecad-1.0.0_rc1 from the science overlay; however, it appears to be missing some crucial steps (silly things like fetching the source and building the program). The output from emerge borders on trivial: http://pastebin.com/1HN9x299 Since that doesn't look very helpful, I also tried emerging with --debug. http://pastebin.com/ZcGnxhyc Unfortunately, I'm not practiced enough at reading this (nor educated enough in how ebuilds work internally) to really read through that. Any ideas why this ebuild is essentially doing nothing? Thanks, -Andy Please sync the overlay. I fixed everything in version _rc2. If it doesn't work, please report again. justin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firmware exists but fails to load
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: # dmesg | grep firm [ 70.453673] r8169 :02:00.0: eth0: unable to load firmware patch rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw (-2) # ls -l /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1324 Aug 12 13:09 /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw Any ideas why this fails? Filesystem is mounted, file is readable... 1) build the driver as a module (firmware loading from disk does not work otherwise) 2) emerge linux-firmware, if you haven't already. 3) reboot and good luck :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Torrent with dynamics throttles
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net wrote: All the other considerations apply, especially the one about capping the total outgoing bandwidth to something less than the actual available bandwidth so that the modem's tx queue stays empty. In my (limited) experience, even if this is the only thing you do, it has a noticeable impact on responsiveness of a busy connection.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On Mon, Aug 15 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun 14 August 2011 19:55:28 Allan Gottlieb did opine thusly: On Sun, Aug 14 2011, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's installing Gnome 3 stuff. Is that what you want? Yes. That is why I am using the gnome overlay Look at your unmasking rules. They were supposed to be the ones that came with the instructions for moving to gnome 3. But I didn't realize that eix-update doesn't update layman and I need layman -S. It is still not working but I will study the new blockages arising after layman -S. That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Right! allan PS After todays portage sync, there are no blocks.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Congratulations, you reinvented the eix-sync command. :) You can put a list of layman overlays to be synced in /etc/eix-sync.conf or a line simply containing an asterisk (*) to sync 'em all. You can also put arbitrary post-sync commands in there, like if you have an overlay that needs an egencache update or if you have some local patches that you always apply to an ebuild from an overlay. (I think most of that sort of thing is not necessary anymore because of other, better ways of handling that.)
[gentoo-user] set both an ipv4 and ipv6 default gateway
Hi all, I'm trying to find out the way to set both IPv4 and IPv6 default gateway in the /etc/conf.d/net file. I've seen this way [1], adding iproute2 module, but when I execute: # insmod iproute2 insmod: can't read 'iproute2': No such file or directory so I guess it's not in my kernel and I don't know where to add it. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-881529-start-0.html Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jorge.-
[gentoo-user] Re: Torrent with dynamics throttles
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:02:01 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Andrea Conti a...@alyf.net wrote: All the other considerations apply, especially the one about capping the total outgoing bandwidth to something less than the actual available bandwidth so that the modem's tx queue stays empty. In my (limited) experience, even if this is the only thing you do, it has a noticeable impact on responsiveness of a busy connection. Which is why it is much more important to use a client that uses the µTP protocol, which prevents TCP starvation (aka buffer bloat): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Transport_Protocol cheers :) -h
Re: [gentoo-user] who needs Java ?
Am Montag 15 August 2011, 13:51:42 schrieb Mick: On Monday 15 Aug 2011 12:21:13 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: On 08/15/2011 04:47 PM, Philip Webb wrote: I looked at updating to the latest Libreoffice 3.4.2.3 found it wants to install a long list of deps, many of which seem to be caused by my 'java' USE flag. As a result, I checked my home-made list of installed pkgs to see which were part of Java why they seemed to be needed. Not a few proved to be unnecessary today, but the rest depend on 4 underlying pkgs, ie Libreoffice Cups Libidn (for KDE 3 , which I want) Db (for Libreoffice). If I remove 'java' from make.conf , which features will I lose in LO Cups KDE3 ? Is there anything else I've overlooked ? You'll lose the ability to run java applets, commonly found on the web for many critical things. Unless you care to explain what you define as a web critical thing, I will continue to run my boxen without Java - just as I have been doing for at least 8 years so far ... ;-) some people use lynx or w3m on a virtual terminal and are happy. That does not make them a good example of usual user behaviour. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] set both an ipv4 and ipv6 default gateway
On Mon 15 August 2011 13:34:06 Jorge Polinotto did opine thusly: Hi all, I'm trying to find out the way to set both IPv4 and IPv6 default gateway in the /etc/conf.d/net file. I've seen this way [1], adding iproute2 module, but when I execute: # insmod iproute2 insmod: can't read 'iproute2': No such file or directory iproute2 is not a kernel modules. It's a userspace app that openrc calls a module (ifconfig is an alternaive module for example). Don't insmod it. Just use the net service as normal so I guess it's not in my kernel and I don't know where to add it. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-881529-start-0.html Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jorge.- -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On Mon 15 August 2011 11:33:02 Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Congratulations, you reinvented the eix-sync command. :) You caught me out :-) There was a reason (a good one) why I did that several years ago, but for the life of me I can't think what it was. several years ago should be my clue to assume the reason is no longer valid You can put a list of layman overlays to be synced in /etc/eix-sync.conf or a line simply containing an asterisk (*) to sync 'em all. You can also put arbitrary post-sync commands in there, like if you have an overlay that needs an egencache update or if you have some local patches that you always apply to an ebuild from an overlay. (I think most of that sort of thing is not necessary anymore because of other, better ways of handling that.) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
Am Montag 15 August 2011, 19:25:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon 15 August 2011 11:33:02 Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Congratulations, you reinvented the eix-sync command. :) You caught me out :-) There was a reason (a good one) why I did that several years ago, but for the life of me I can't think what it was. if eix-sync fails with one of the overlays, all fails. if one overlay fails doing it step by step you can do all the other stuff without worrying about it. -- #163933
[gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
I just tried emerge -DuN @world @system -va and got: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 [2.22.06] 0 kB [ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-bin-5.0 [3.6.19] USE=startup-notification [ebuild N ] x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90 USE=png 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-plugins/kipi-plugins-2.0.0 USE=cdr crypt imagemagick mediawiki opengl (-aqua) -calendar -debug -expoblending -gpssync -handbook -ipod (-kdeenablefinal) -mjpeg -redeyes -scanner [ebuild N ] media-gfx/digikam-2.0.0 USE=gphoto2 handbook thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc (-kdeenablefinal) -mysql -semantic-desktop -themedesigner -video [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.8 USE=session svg -minimal 0 kB Total: 6 packages (2 upgrades, 4 new), Size of downloads: 15,432 kB The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 ~amd64 NOTE: This --autounmask behavior can be disabled by setting EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n in make.conf But if I run: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n emerge -DuN @world @system -va I get: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-bin-5.0 [3.6.19] USE=startup-notification [ebuild N ] x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90 USE=png 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-plugins/kipi-plugins-2.0.0 USE=cdr crypt imagemagick mediawiki opengl (-aqua) -calendar -debug -expoblending -gpssync -handbook -ipod (-kdeenablefinal) -mjpeg -redeyes -scanner [ebuild N ] media-gfx/digikam-2.0.0 USE=gphoto2 handbook thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc (-kdeenablefinal) -mysql -semantic-desktop -themedesigner -video [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.8 USE=session svg -minimal 0 kB Total: 5 packages (1 upgrade, 4 new), Size of downloads: 15,432 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] [LINGUAS was stripped by me to remove unneded clutter from this post] I run ~amd64 but have =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -~amd64 because of a bug with imagemagick [#378383]. Why is autounmask trying to unmask ExtUtils-ParseXS if it's not needed? Should I report this as a bug? Greetings Sebastian Beßler signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] set both an ipv4 and ipv6 default gateway
emerge -av iproute2 Then in /etc/conf.d/net make sure that the routes_eth0 setting has 2 (*two*) lines like the forum thread you posted, first line is the IPv4 route and second line th IPv6 route. Rgds On 2011-08-15, Jorge Polinotto jo...@ccc.uba.ar wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to find out the way to set both IPv4 and IPv6 default gateway in the /etc/conf.d/net file. I've seen this way [1], adding iproute2 module, but when I execute: # insmod iproute2 insmod: can't read 'iproute2': No such file or directory so I guess it's not in my kernel and I don't know where to add it. [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-881529-start-0.html Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jorge.- -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
On Mon 15 August 2011 19:31:37 Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: I just tried emerge -DuN @world @system -va and got: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 [2.22.06] 0 kB [ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-bin-5.0 [3.6.19] USE=startup-notification [ebuild N ] x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90 USE=png 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-plugins/kipi-plugins-2.0.0 USE=cdr crypt imagemagick mediawiki opengl (-aqua) -calendar -debug -expoblending -gpssync -handbook -ipod (-kdeenablefinal) -mjpeg -redeyes -scanner [ebuild N ] media-gfx/digikam-2.0.0 USE=gphoto2 handbook thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc (-kdeenablefinal) -mysql -semantic-desktop -themedesigner -video [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.8 USE=session svg -minimal 0 kB Total: 6 packages (2 upgrades, 4 new), Size of downloads: 15,432 kB The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 ~amd64 NOTE: This --autounmask behavior can be disabled by setting EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n in make.conf But if I run: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n emerge -DuN @world @system -va I get: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] www-client/firefox-bin-5.0 [3.6.19] USE=startup-notification [ebuild N ] x11-themes/tango-icon-theme-0.8.90 USE=png 0 kB [ebuild N ] media-plugins/kipi-plugins-2.0.0 USE=cdr crypt imagemagick mediawiki opengl (-aqua) -calendar -debug -expoblending -gpssync -handbook -ipod (-kdeenablefinal) -mjpeg -redeyes -scanner [ebuild N ] media-gfx/digikam-2.0.0 USE=gphoto2 handbook thumbnails -addressbook (-aqua) -debug -doc (-kdeenablefinal) -mysql -semantic-desktop -themedesigner -video [ebuild N ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.8 USE=session svg -minimal 0 kB Total: 5 packages (1 upgrade, 4 new), Size of downloads: 15,432 kB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] [LINGUAS was stripped by me to remove unneded clutter from this post] I run ~amd64 but have =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -~amd64 because of a bug with imagemagick [#378383]. Why is autounmask trying to unmask ExtUtils-ParseXS if it's not needed? Should I report this as a bug? It's not a bug, portage is doing what it should. In the first case portage will try upgrade all packages to the latest version. It sees that you asked it to try autounmask stuff, so it wants to override your local mask for ExtUtils-ParseXS. In the second case you have told portage to upgrade system and world but to leave masking well enough alone. As your current installed version of ExtUtils-ParseXS satisfies all needs, it makes no effort to try and upgrade it. The trick to working with autounmask is to realise that it is stupid software, it cannot possibly know what you want or intend. So it tries a blanket approach for the most part. If you have more complex masking than just stable/unstable statistically it will be wrong far more often than it is right. It's possible to come up with an autounmask ignore file but that gets way too complex really quickly and easily turns into an unmaintainable mess. Devs are usually reluctant to go this route, as the mess just ends up in their inbox. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
On Mon 15 August 2011 19:31:50 Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: Am Montag 15 August 2011, 19:25:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon 15 August 2011 11:33:02 Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Congratulations, you reinvented the eix-sync command. :) You caught me out :-) There was a reason (a good one) why I did that several years ago, but for the life of me I can't think what it was. if eix-sync fails with one of the overlays, all fails. if one overlay fails doing it step by step you can do all the other stuff without worrying about it. Sounds familiar, odds are good that's what drove me to take the long road. I take it eix-sync still has this same behaviour? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Mon, August 15, 2011 3:06 pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday 15 August 2011 11:07:31 J. Roeleveld wrote: There also was a thread called [gentoo-user] [cookbook] grub2 for idiots like me by walt (24 January 2011) which is, I believe, what you're looking for. That looks like the one. Thanks Joost. You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :) Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be wrong. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Am 15.08.2011 20:02, schrieb Alan McKinnon: It's not a bug, portage is doing what it should. In the first case portage will try upgrade all packages to the latest version. It sees that you asked it to try autounmask stuff, so it wants to override your local mask for ExtUtils-ParseXS. I don't asked portage to autounmask anything, that is a feature of portage-2.2 and should normaly only fire when there is a need to unmask (or change USE or change keyword) anything to fullfill the needs of the packages to be installed or updated. Else it would tell anyone on stable who use portage-2.2 to change to ~unstable because there is newer stuff to install. I have a large amount on packages that have newer versions that are masked and autounmask doesn't ask me to install them only because they are newer. In the second case you have told portage to upgrade system and world but to leave masking well enough alone. As your current installed version of ExtUtils-ParseXS satisfies all needs, it makes no effort to try and upgrade it. I think that you not really know what the autounmask-feature of portage-2.2 is all about. Normally it does something like this: emerge =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 [2.22.06] 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: #required by =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 (argument) =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 ~amd64 NOTE: This --autounmask behavior can be disabled by setting EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n in make.conf. without it would look like this: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n emerge =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. It is just a other way to display what is needed to be done. If autounmask fires portage should throw an error too if trying the same thing again with autounmask=n. But here it doesn't. It tells me to unmaks without any need. The trick to working with autounmask is to realise that it is stupid software, it cannot possibly know what you want or intend. So it tries a blanket approach for the most part. If you have more complex masking than just stable/unstable statistically it will be wrong far more often than it is right. If there is a package version masked and nothing needs that version then autounmask should not fire. It should leave that alone. For me it still looks like a bug. Greetings Sebastian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
On Mon 15 August 2011 20:55:12 Sebastian Beßler did opine thusly: Am 15.08.2011 20:02, schrieb Alan McKinnon: It's not a bug, portage is doing what it should. In the first case portage will try upgrade all packages to the latest version. It sees that you asked it to try autounmask stuff, so it wants to override your local mask for ExtUtils-ParseXS. I don't asked portage to autounmask anything, that is a feature of portage-2.2 and should normaly only fire when there is a need to unmask (or change USE or change keyword) anything to fullfill the needs of the packages to be installed or updated. Else it would tell anyone on stable who use portage-2.2 to change to ~unstable because there is newer stuff to install. I have a large amount on packages that have newer versions that are masked and autounmask doesn't ask me to install them only because they are newer. In the second case you have told portage to upgrade system and world but to leave masking well enough alone. As your current installed version of ExtUtils-ParseXS satisfies all needs, it makes no effort to try and upgrade it. I think that you not really know what the autounmask-feature of portage-2.2 is all about. Normally it does something like this: emerge =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 [2.22.06] 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 0 kB The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: #required by =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 (argument) =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 ~amd64 NOTE: This --autounmask behavior can be disabled by setting EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n in make.conf. without it would look like this: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--autounmask=n emerge =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0::gentoo (masked by: ~amd64 keyword) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. It is just a other way to display what is needed to be done. If autounmask fires portage should throw an error too if trying the same thing again with autounmask=n. But here it doesn't. It tells me to unmaks without any need. Do you have autounmask enabled or disabled in your config for portage? That first example you gave strongly indicates you have it enabled. The trick to working with autounmask is to realise that it is stupid software, it cannot possibly know what you want or intend. So it tries a blanket approach for the most part. If you have more complex masking than just stable/unstable statistically it will be wrong far more often than it is right. If there is a package version masked and nothing needs that version then autounmask should not fire. It should leave that alone. For me it still looks like a bug. Greetings Sebastian -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] portage blockage gnome-control-center vs gnome-media
Am Montag 15 August 2011, 20:04:21 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon 15 August 2011 19:31:50 Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: Am Montag 15 August 2011, 19:25:12 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Mon 15 August 2011 11:33:02 Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: That caught me out a few times too. I put these commands into a bash alias: emerge --sync layman -S eix-update and use that to sync portage. That way I don't leave steps out. Congratulations, you reinvented the eix-sync command. :) You caught me out :-) There was a reason (a good one) why I did that several years ago, but for the life of me I can't think what it was. if eix-sync fails with one of the overlays, all fails. if one overlay fails doing it step by step you can do all the other stuff without worrying about it. Sounds familiar, odds are good that's what drove me to take the long road. I take it eix-sync still has this same behaviour? well, it failed on me a few weeks ago. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you have autounmask enabled or disabled in your config for portage? That first example you gave strongly indicates you have it enabled. I'm thinking the same thing. It seems to be enabled by default I think. I know it is here and I didn't do it. It just sort of appeared one day. I *think* I even asked on here about it. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
On Mon 15 August 2011 15:12:09 Dale did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon wrote: Do you have autounmask enabled or disabled in your config for portage? That first example you gave strongly indicates you have it enabled. I'm thinking the same thing. It seems to be enabled by default I think. I know it is here and I didn't do it. It just sort of appeared one day. I *think* I even asked on here about it. You did, and I remember it clearly. I even looked at my own setup and concluded that a recent portage update enabled it by default. I never had any issues with it as I run unstable so there's nothing to unmask except my - packages which are all unamsked ** already. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Am 15.08.2011 21:34, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Do you have autounmask enabled or disabled in your config for portage? I have it enabled because it is enabled by default. You have to explicit disable it. So, because it is enabled by default, I never asked portage to autounmask anything for me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] GRUB v2
On Monday 15 August 2011 19:38:49 Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: You're welcome, my Gentoo-user archive goes back to 2004 :) Mine goes back a year. Gentoo moves so fast, I figure a year should be more than plenty. Maybe I need to rethink that a little. I could be wrong. :/ I've just raised the expiry period on my GentooUser folder to 365 days so as not to be caught out this way again. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] Rosegarden works???
Am Samstag, 13. August 2011, 19:48:55 schrieb luis jure: on 2011-08-14 at 00:29 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: comment#3 talks about jack. Is jack up and running, when you try to start rosegarden? yes, i tried both with and without jack running. i don't use jack normally and don't know much about it, i just tried starting jackd -d alsa and jackd -R -d alsa. can't see any change when trying to start rosegarden. i don't have a clue, really. it seems that i'm not the only one having this problem, but on the other hand it works for the rest and no-one seems to have an idea how to detect what could be the cause of this. i tried all the usual suspects already. What version of jack are you using? Could you post its output when starting? I'm looking for differences to my own setup. There must be some reason why it works for me, but doesn't for you. thanks for your attention! Regards, Michael
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: Why is autounmask trying to unmask ExtUtils-ParseXS if it's not needed? Should I report this as a bug? I think it's only telling you what you should unmask. Setting --autounmask=n simply makes it stop giving you this hint. To actually unmask anything you would need to use --autounmask-write=y Use --tree to get a better idea what package wants the newer ExtUtils-ParseXS
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 15.08.2011 21:34, schrieb Alan McKinnon: Do you have autounmask enabled or disabled in your config for portage? I have it enabled because it is enabled by default. You have to explicit disable it. So, because it is enabled by default, I never asked portage to autounmask anything for me. Well sort of. Since you didn't disable it, portage did what it was told to do. I sort of like on by default otherwise I may not know there is a new feature. Then again, it can be bad since it could bork something else and you not know until it was done. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Am 15.08.2011 23:33, schrieb Paul Hartman: Use --tree to get a better idea what package wants the newer ExtUtils-ParseXS I narrowed it down to emerge perl-core/Module-Build -vp These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild U ] perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 [2.22.06] 0 kB [ebuild R] perl-core/Module-Build-0.380.0 0 kB Total: 2 packages (1 upgrade, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: #required by virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0, required by perl-core/Module-Build-0.380.0, required by perl-core/Module-Build (argument) =perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 ~amd64 and Module-Build-0.380.0 has =virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.05 in DEPEND. So yes autounmask was actually right, because I masked perl-core/ExtUtils-ParseXS-3.20.0 but not the virtual-3.20.0. After doing that everything is fine here. But why was autounmask=y complaining but not autounmask=n? The dependency of the virtual was missing both times so shouldn't emerge spit some error out both times? Greetings Sebastian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Assigning an IP in AP mode
hostapd doesn't report any error and I don't think it should. Everything works fine as soon as I 'ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.1' but I know there's a way to assign that IP automatically, I've just forgotten what it is. My description above is the trouble I run into when I try to set up that automatic IP assignment. As long as I issue ifconfig manually, everything works fine. Just let net.wlan0 bring the interface up and configure the IP for you. Thank you, I just needed to correct the modules_wlan0 syntax from that page. It should be: modules_wlan0=!iwconfig !wpa_supplicant http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/Wireless/libnl_Access_Point#Configuration_of_hostapd - Grant
[gentoo-user] Setting wifi txpower automatically
Is this in /etc/conf.d/net the best way to set txpower automatically?
postup also executes after net.lo and net.eth0 but I don't think it
will actually execute the iwconfig command unless it's net.wlan0.
postup() {
if [[ ${IFACE} == wlan0 ]] ; then
iwconfig wlan0 txpower 0
fi
return 0
}
- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Rosegarden works???
on 2011-08-15 at 22:32 Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: What version of jack are you using? i have jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7 installed. but i think this shouldn't be the problem, because at least in the past jack was needed only if you were going to use audio in rosegarden. the program itself should launch even if jack is not running. or am i wrong? could you try starting rosegarden from the terminal without jack? does it start? vielen dank für deine hilfe! lj
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage autounmask is strange again
Sebastian Beßler wrote: But why was autounmask=y complaining but not autounmask=n? The dependency of the virtual was missing both times so shouldn't emerge spit some error out both times? Greetings Sebastian Because autounmask=n assumes you don't want to upgrade anything that is masked so it didn't suggest it. Ain't life confusing? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Linux also offered financial firms the ability to modify the source code to further speed performance, Lameter said. It depends on how daring the exchange is, Lameter said, noting that NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution. http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
? Udev has been the standard way to service kernel firmware requests for quite some time. The relevant bit is in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules . Ok so that must be working on my laptop (automatically, i didn't configure anything) but failing on my desktop. However, udevd is only started after the kernel is loaded, and therefore will only load firmware for drivers which are built as modules. I tried compiling as a module, and it still failed. I'll go back and verify I haven't made a mistake, then check firmware.rules. Thanks again.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Michael Mol wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carteradamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. Desktop here. Though I do have one box that could be considered a server of sorts since it has no mouse/keyboard and no monitor either. Well, most servers don't have those. ;-) You really need a website that has this question and just post a linky here and on the forums. Even then tho, you won't get all Gentoo users. Only the chatterboxes will reply here too. lol Mostly anyway. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
That is indeed cool. And a welcome news for me who's trying to champion Gentoo in my company which, as it happens, is a stockbrokerage house. One of my country's largest, even :) Rgds, On 2011-08-16, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Linux also offered financial firms the ability to modify the source code to further speed performance, Lameter said. It depends on how daring the exchange is, Lameter said, noting that NASDAQ uses a modified version of the Gentoo Linux distribution. http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
To answer your survey: All my gentoo VMs are in production as servers. Non-glorious but essential ones such as mail servers, DNS servers, proxy servers, and also a couple of firewalls. I'm currently in the process of phasing out Ubuntu servers from my company, leaving just one for running Axigen. I personally don't think Gentoo is suitable for the (l)users in my company; there's just too much 'moving parts' that will make support's life a hellish experience. Currently I am planning to explore (along with Joost and hopefully someone from the Xen herd will hear and help) a Gentoo-based Xen Platform. An ideal match, if you ask me, since (theoretically) nothing can come close to the performance of a Gentoo Dom0. Rgds, On 2011-08-16, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
I use it for my laptop, desktop/HTPC. firewall/router, distfiles server and NFS boot server. The distfiles and NFS boot servers are actually VMs due to having to downsize PC space on my desk. (my wife had a fit about 6 PCs on my desk running constantly.) James Wall
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? 1. Server at friends house on fixed IP ADSL2 annex M for DNS, SMTP+IMAP mail, web+wiki, and a second sshd on port 443, so i can get to it from work :). 2. Home laptop, which runs vmware for Windows 7, XP, SecurePlatform etc 3. Home proxy running squid in interception mode with gzip ecap, DNS caching, DHCP, hostapd on ADSL2 4. VMware guest on work laptop
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. -- :wq Here I have it on my laptop, desktop, build server, build binary packages server, web server, backup servers, file servers and (hopefully) a media server/htpc soon. And Adam, nice find. -- Matthew Finkel
[gentoo-user] {OT} rdiff-backup: push or pull?
I'm setting up an automated rdiff-backup system and I'm stuck between pushing the backups to the backup server, and pulling the backups to the backup server. If I push, I have to allow read/write access of my backups via SSH keys. If I pull, I have to enable root logins on each system to be backed-up, allow root read access of each system via SSH keys, and I have to deal with openvpn or ssh -R so my laptop can back up from behind foreign routers. The conventional wisdom online seems to indicate pulling is better, but pushing seems like it might be better to me. Do you push or pull? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firmware exists but fails to load
? Udev has been the standard way to service kernel firmware requests for quite some time. The relevant bit is in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules . Ok so that must be working on my laptop (automatically, i didn't configure anything) but failing on my desktop. However, udevd is only started after the kernel is loaded, and therefore will only load firmware for drivers which are built as modules. I tried compiling as a module, and it still failed. I'll go back and verify I haven't made a mistake, then check firmware.rules. it does not actually matter how you configured the driver -- built-in kernel or as module: everytime when driver operates the device, it checks whether firmware is loaded. if it does not or the firmware is not preloaded at kernel build time as a blob, the driver requests for firmware. the request is a generated kernel event which is handled in userspace by udev. the udev daemon processes event using mentioned above rule. the rule is trivial -- it starts a firmware loader utility (/lib/udev/firmware) with parameters passed within the event: device name and firmware file path. appropriate status is returned back to kernel and dispatched to the driver in your case the status is -2 (ENOENT) so it could be problem with either firmware blob file or firmware loader itself. functionality of /lib/udev/firmware is controlled by USE=extras. did you installed udev with extras support? again, firmware load is udev responsibility. you may diagnose all the stuff enabling udev debug output in /etc/udev/udev.conf finally i confirm that r8169 driver works fine on my notebook with 2.6.39 kernel
