Re: [gentoo-user] lost wireless network

2012-02-01 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
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On 01.02.2012 00:34, pat wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:34:36 +0100, pat wrote
 On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:49:33 +1100, Adam Carter wrote
 There were a few kernels that broke iwlagn. Iirc it was 3.1.5
 and 3.1.6. So
 i'd suggest you stick to troubleshooting on a kernel you know has
 previously worked, or a very recent one.
 
 Well, that's the problem, it doesn't work on last working one too
 :- ( I've been using tuxonice-sources-2.6.38-r1 and it worked
 about 6 months ago, but not it doesn't :-(
 
 Thanks
 
 Pat
 
 Hello again,
 
 I've tried these kernels: 2.6.38-tuxonice-r1, 3.0.6-tuxonice, 
 3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 and 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 but none of these works :-(
 The kernel config for 3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 (the kernel I want to use)
 is attached. I've checked wifi functionality on Linux Mint 11 live
 CD and it works.
 
 I have no idea what I have to check :-\ (I've checked the kernel
 setup, NetworkManager configuration, a lot of kernels :-) and I've
 also tried wicd).
 
 Could someone help?
 
 Thanks
 
 Pat
 
 
  Freehosting PIPNI -
 http://www.pipni.cz/
You could add:

[logging]
level=DEBUG
domains=HW,RFKILL,WIFI


to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

and try if you get an usable error...

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[gentoo-user] strange alarm signal

2012-02-01 Thread Thanasis
Has anyone ever seen the following strange behaviour?
While updating the system with emerge, after each installation of a
package, before it starts emerging the next one, it pauses for a minute
or two, then displays alarm signal (without the quotes) on a new line,
and continues to emerging the next package.
Here is an example:

 Emerging (2 of 9) perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
 * IPC-Cmd-0.76.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...

  [ ok ]
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking IPC-Cmd-0.76.tar.gz to
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work
 Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work
 Preparing source in
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...
 Source prepared.
 Configuring source in
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...
 * Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
 * perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr INSTALLDIRS=vendor INSTALLMAN3DIR=none
DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for IPC::Cmd
Writing MYMETA.yml and MYMETA.json
 Source configured.
 Compiling source in
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...
 * emake OTHERLDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
make -j5 'OTHERLDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed'
cp lib/IPC/Cmd.pm blib/lib/IPC/Cmd.pm
 Source compiled.
 Test phase [not enabled]: perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0

 Install IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/ category perl-core
make -j5 pure_install
Installing
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/IPC/Cmd.pm
 Completed installing IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/

ecompressdir: bzip2 -9 /usr/share/doc
 Done.

 Installing (2 of 9) perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
alarm signal

 Emerging (3 of 9) virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
 Unpacking source...
 Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work
 Compiling source in
/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work ...
 Source compiled.
 Test phase [not enabled]: virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0

 Install perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into
/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/ category virtual
 Completed installing perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into
/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/

 Done.

 Installing (3 of 9) virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
alarm signal

 Emerging (4 of 9) x11-libs/pixman-0.24.2




Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 On Tue, January 31, 2012 6:30 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
 Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office how long before someone makes a
 pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post pool; I just won
 $5.

 I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
 I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win7 - and was happy with it

 And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).

 I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
 and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.

 So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.

   I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
 more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
 down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of drive-by-downloads
 would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.

 I enjoyed MS Dos, then played a bit with MS Win3.11, MS Win95 and MS Win98SE.
 However, for important stuff, like day-to-day desktop, I switched to Linux
 in 1997. That was the last time I lost files due to a crash of MS
 Windows...

 --
 Joost





 When 3.1 came out, I changed jobs.  Swapping 15 floppies is no fun to
 me.  Funny, reinstalling fixed the problems back then and it still is
 the best way to fix windoze.

  sighs 

Actually, the reason for that's pretty easy to explain. It's because
Windows, unlike every major Linux distribution since Apt, wasn't
designed around pulling software from centralized repositories.
Instead, ISVs were expected to provide installers, which users were
expected to obtain from outside channels and run. That seems archaic
to Linux users, but even Red Hat was like that before yum.

Since there was no centralized, curated software repository maintained
by people ensuring things worked properly together, you got everything
from DLL hell to developers violating Microsoft's recommendations
(and, considering that Microsoft *designed the platform*, you can
consider their recommendations as part of the platform spec) and good
development practice. So you have things like:

* People bypassing APIs and munging registry keys directly. This would
be like a Linux app going in and modifying Debian's package database
without going through an intermediate library kept in lockstep with
the package manager code. Eventually, one's going to behave in a way
the other isn't going to expect, and either the package database will
become corrupt (f'ing $OSVENDOR! Their stuff keeps breaking!, the
user will curse), or the application will stop working (F'ing
$OSVENDOR! They keep breaking my stuff!)

* People not bothering to understand DLL search paths, and getting
into the habit of dropping their DLL into the SYSTEM32 folder. That
would be like manually building and installing a package to /usr/
instead of /usr/local, or a library in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib with
an improper soname. Eventually, you risk changing the behavior of an
unrelated app, or having an unrelated app change your app's behavior,
all because a couple DLLs had the same name and no differentiating
metadata.

* People only ever testing their programs while they have
Administrator privileges, and so their programs only ever work
correctly while running as Administrator. This would be like an app
found in /usr/bin assuming it can write anywhere it pleases, call any
API call it needs, and doing some marginally unsafe things with system
calls. To get it to work properly, you'd have to make it suid root,
and it'd be a vulnerability vector.

The analogies aren't perfect, but the points still stand. Sad thing
is, if and when Microsoft takes steps toward a repository model (these
days, people like to call them app stores) they'll be lambasted as
being evil for applying a gateway to the platform, even though it's
going to be a necessary step to fixing a lot of what's wrong with the
development culture on that platform.

Linux isn't perfect in these regards, but the combination of being
open source, of distros having their own software repositories and of
distro maintainers feeding fixes upstream is an exceedingly effective
combination. Linux systems don't accrue systemic cruft nearly as
rapidly as Windows systems, in large part because of the forced
cooperation applied by the LSB and by distro maintainers.

Cruft buildup can still happen, though, and that's why emerge -e
@world exists. And, actually, that's a pretty analogous action to
reinstalling Windows. It's just much easier, and does a better job of
retaining user and application settings.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 On Tue, January 31, 2012 6:30 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
 Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office how long before someone makes a
 pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post pool; I just won
 $5.

 I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
 I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win7 - and was happy with it

 And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).

 I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
 and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.

 So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.

   I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
 more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
 down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of drive-by-downloads
 would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.

 I enjoyed MS Dos, then played a bit with MS Win3.11, MS Win95 and MS 
 Win98SE.
 However, for important stuff, like day-to-day desktop, I switched to Linux
 in 1997. That was the last time I lost files due to a crash of MS
 Windows...

 --
 Joost





 When 3.1 came out, I changed jobs.  Swapping 15 floppies is no fun to
 me.  Funny, reinstalling fixed the problems back then and it still is
 the best way to fix windoze.

  sighs 
 
 Actually, the reason for that's pretty easy to explain. It's because
 Windows, unlike every major Linux distribution since Apt, wasn't
 designed around pulling software from centralized repositories.
 Instead, ISVs were expected to provide installers, which users were
 expected to obtain from outside channels and run. That seems archaic
 to Linux users, but even Red Hat was like that before yum.
 
 Since there was no centralized, curated software repository maintained
 by people ensuring things worked properly together, you got everything
 from DLL hell to developers violating Microsoft's recommendations
 (and, considering that Microsoft *designed the platform*, you can
 consider their recommendations as part of the platform spec) and good
 development practice. So you have things like:
 
 * People bypassing APIs and munging registry keys directly. This would
 be like a Linux app going in and modifying Debian's package database
 without going through an intermediate library kept in lockstep with
 the package manager code. Eventually, one's going to behave in a way
 the other isn't going to expect, and either the package database will
 become corrupt (f'ing $OSVENDOR! Their stuff keeps breaking!, the
 user will curse), or the application will stop working (F'ing
 $OSVENDOR! They keep breaking my stuff!)
 
 * People not bothering to understand DLL search paths, and getting
 into the habit of dropping their DLL into the SYSTEM32 folder. That
 would be like manually building and installing a package to /usr/
 instead of /usr/local, or a library in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib with
 an improper soname. Eventually, you risk changing the behavior of an
 unrelated app, or having an unrelated app change your app's behavior,
 all because a couple DLLs had the same name and no differentiating
 metadata.
 
 * People only ever testing their programs while they have
 Administrator privileges, and so their programs only ever work
 correctly while running as Administrator. This would be like an app
 found in /usr/bin assuming it can write anywhere it pleases, call any
 API call it needs, and doing some marginally unsafe things with system
 calls. To get it to work properly, you'd have to make it suid root,
 and it'd be a vulnerability vector.
 
 The analogies aren't perfect, but the points still stand. Sad thing
 is, if and when Microsoft takes steps toward a repository model (these
 days, people like to call them app stores) they'll be lambasted as
 being evil for applying a gateway to the platform, even though it's
 going to be a necessary step to fixing a lot of what's wrong with the
 development culture on that platform.
 
 Linux isn't perfect in these regards, but the combination of being
 open source, of distros having their own software repositories and of
 distro maintainers feeding fixes upstream is an exceedingly effective
 combination. Linux systems don't accrue systemic cruft nearly as
 rapidly as Windows systems, in large part because of the forced
 cooperation applied by the LSB and by distro maintainers.
 
 Cruft buildup can still happen, though, and that's why emerge -e
 @world exists. And, actually, that's a pretty analogous action to
 reinstalling Windows. It's just much easier, and does a better job of
 retaining user and application settings.
 


So basically, WINDOZE SUCKS   LOL


[gentoo-user] /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3: undefined symbol: __guard

2012-02-01 Thread Grant
I get this when emerging python on a system I'm bringing up to date
after 3 years of non-use:

*** WARNING: renaming dbm since importing it failed:
/usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3: undefined symbol: __guard

The compile eventually fails with:

Failed to find the necessary bits to build these modules:
_bsddb _tkinter   bsddb185
sunaudiodev
To find the necessary bits, look in setup.py in detect_modules() for
the module's name.

Failed to build these modules:
dbm

running build_scripts
creating build/scripts-2.6
copying and adjusting
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.6.7-r2/work/Python-2.6.7/Tools/scripts/pydoc
- build/scripts-2.6
copying and adjusting
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.6.7-r2/work/Python-2.6.7/Tools/scripts/idle
- build/scripts-2.6
copying and adjusting
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.6.7-r2/work/Python-2.6.7/Tools/scripts/2to3
- build/scripts-2.6
copying and adjusting
/var/tmp/portage/dev-lang/python-2.6.7-r2/work/Python-2.6.7/Lib/smtpd.py
- build/scripts-2.6
changing mode of build/scripts-2.6/pydoc from 644 to 755
changing mode of build/scripts-2.6/idle from 644 to 755
changing mode of build/scripts-2.6/2to3 from 644 to 755
changing mode of build/scripts-2.6/smtpd.py from 644 to 755
make: *** [sharedmods] Error 1

This is python-2.6 but I get the same from 2.7 and 3.1.  I was able to
emerge python-2.6 earlier in the updating process so I'm not sure why
it's failing now.  I'm halfway through an emerge -e world to see if
that helps.  The system is up-to-date now and working fine although I
still need to update the kernel, gcc won't compile above 4.3.4, and
udev gets crazy above 141.  I'm on this profile:

hardened/linux/x86

Any ideas?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] lost wireless network

2012-02-01 Thread pat
On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:16:18 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote
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 On 01.02.2012 00:34, pat wrote:
  On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:34:36 +0100, pat wrote
  On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:49:33 +1100, Adam Carter wrote
  There were a few kernels that broke iwlagn. Iirc it was 3.1.5
  and 3.1.6. So
  i'd suggest you stick to troubleshooting on a kernel you know has
  previously worked, or a very recent one.
  
  Well, that's the problem, it doesn't work on last working one too
  :- ( I've been using tuxonice-sources-2.6.38-r1 and it worked
  about 6 months ago, but not it doesn't :-(
  
  Thanks
  
  Pat
  
  Hello again,
  
  I've tried these kernels: 2.6.38-tuxonice-r1, 3.0.6-tuxonice, 
  3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 and 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 but none of these works :-(
  The kernel config for 3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 (the kernel I want to use)
  is attached. I've checked wifi functionality on Linux Mint 11 live
  CD and it works.
  
  I have no idea what I have to check :-\ (I've checked the kernel
  setup, NetworkManager configuration, a lot of kernels :-) and I've
  also tried wicd).
  
  Could someone help?
  
  Thanks
  
  Pat
  
 You could add:
 
 [logging]
 level=DEBUG
 domains=HW,RFKILL,WIFI
 
 to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
 
 and try if you get an usable error...
 
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Hello,

the log is attached. To me it looks like there's not an issue with
NetworkManager, but somewhere else, because, when I turn on the wireless
toggle button, the wireless control doesn't indicate the wireless is on.

Thanks for help

 Pat




Freehosting PIPNI - http://www.pipni.cz/Feb  1 19:58:39 localhost NetworkManager[2592]: info (eth0): carrier now OFF 
(device state 8, deferring action for 4 seconds)
Feb  1 19:58:39 localhost NetworkManager[2592]: info (eth0): carrier now ON 
(device state 8)
Feb  1 20:03:23 localhost NetworkManager[2592]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting 
unmanaged specs...
Feb  1 20:03:23 localhost NetworkManager[2592]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting 
unmanaged specs...
Feb  1 20:03:23 localhost NetworkManager[2592]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting 
unmanaged specs...
Feb  1 20:03:26 localhost NetworkManager[2592]: info WiFi now enabled by 
radio killswitch
Feb  1 20:03:27 localhost NetworkManager[2592]: info WiFi now disabled by 
radio killswitch
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Initializing!
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: management 
mode: managed
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Can't open 
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf for wireless security
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Loading 
connections
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: Hostname 
updated to: draken-korin
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: 
Initialzation complete!
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting 
unmanaged specs...
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: (872426032) 
... get_connections.
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: (872426032) 
connections count: 0
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:keyfile: parsing 
.keep_net-misc_networkmanager-0 ... 
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:keyfile: error: File 
permissions (100644) or owner (0) were insecure
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]:SCPlugin-Ifnet: getting 
unmanaged specs...
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: info found WiFi radio 
killswitch rfkill2 (at 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.1/:02:00.0/ieee80211/phy0/rfkill2) 
(driver unknown)
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: info found WiFi radio 
killswitch rfkill0 (at /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/rfkill/rfkill0) 
(driver dell-laptop)
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: debug [1328123204.961239] 
[nm-udev-manager.c:204] recheck_killswitches(): WiFi rfkill state now 
'hard-blocked'
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: info WiFi disabled by radio 
killswitch; disabled by state file
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: info WWAN enabled by radio 
killswitch; enabled by state file
Feb  1 20:06:44 localhost NetworkManager[2619]: info WiMAX enabled by radio 
killswitch; enabled by state file
Feb  1 20:06:44 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with internal compiler error

2012-02-01 Thread Grant
 The gcc package actually compiles gcc twice, once with your existing

 compiler and again with the new compiler itself (at least it worked that

 way in the old days).



 I believe it's three times now: the first time with the old compiler, then
 with the new one, then again with the second new one. Then the last two are
 compared; they should be the same.

I do get this when emerging gcc-4.3.4:

 * Your x86 arch is not supported.
 * Hope you know what you are doing. Hardened will not work.

I wonder if it could be related.  4.3.4 compiles fine.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] strange alarm signal

2012-02-01 Thread Matthias Krebs

On 02/01/2012 10:05 AM, Thanasis wrote:

Has anyone ever seen the following strange behaviour?
While updating the system with emerge, after each installation of a
package, before it starts emerging the next one, it pauses for a minute
or two, then displays alarm signal (without the quotes) on a new line,
and continues to emerging the next package.

Hi Thanasis,

this message is from emerge /portage:
grep -r alarm signal /usr/lib64/portage/*
Binary file /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.pyo matches
Binary file /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.pyc matches
/usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.py:raise 
AlarmSignal(alarm signal,


This one matches your one minute:
/usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/elog/mod_mail_summary.py:
AlarmSignal.register(60)


Look like a timeout during mail sending to me. You have probably elog 
mail sending configured in make.conf and your mailserver is borked.


HTH,

Matthias

Here is an example:


Emerging (2 of 9) perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0

  * IPC-Cmd-0.76.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...

   [ ok ]

Unpacking source...
Unpacking IPC-Cmd-0.76.tar.gz to

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work

Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work
Preparing source in

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...

Source prepared.
Configuring source in

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...
  * Using ExtUtils::MakeMaker
  * perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr INSTALLDIRS=vendor INSTALLMAN3DIR=none
DESTDIR=/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for IPC::Cmd
Writing MYMETA.yml and MYMETA.json

Source configured.
Compiling source in

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work/IPC-Cmd-0.76 ...
  * emake OTHERLDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed
make -j5 'OTHERLDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed'
cp lib/IPC/Cmd.pm blib/lib/IPC/Cmd.pm

Source compiled.
Test phase [not enabled]: perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
Install IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/ category perl-core
make -j5 pure_install
Installing
/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/IPC/Cmd.pm

Completed installing IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into

/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/

ecompressdir: bzip2 -9 /usr/share/doc

Done.
Installing (2 of 9) perl-core/IPC-Cmd-0.760.0

alarm signal


Emerging (3 of 9) virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
Unpacking source...
Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work
Compiling source in

/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/work ...

Source compiled.
Test phase [not enabled]: virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0
Install perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into

/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/ category virtual

Completed installing perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0 into

/var/tmp/portage/virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0/image/


Done.
Installing (3 of 9) virtual/perl-IPC-Cmd-0.760.0

alarm signal


Emerging (4 of 9) x11-libs/pixman-0.24.2








Re: [gentoo-user] strange alarm signal

2012-02-01 Thread Thanasis
on 02/01/2012 11:21 PM Matthias Krebs wrote the following:
 On 02/01/2012 10:05 AM, Thanasis wrote:
 Has anyone ever seen the following strange behaviour?
 While updating the system with emerge, after each installation of a
 package, before it starts emerging the next one, it pauses for a minute
 or two, then displays alarm signal (without the quotes) on a new line,
 and continues to emerging the next package.
 Hi Thanasis,
 
 this message is from emerge /portage:
 grep -r alarm signal /usr/lib64/portage/*
 Binary file /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.pyo matches
 Binary file /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.pyc matches
 /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/exception.py:raise
 AlarmSignal(alarm signal,
 
 This one matches your one minute:
 /usr/lib64/portage/pym/portage/elog/mod_mail_summary.py:  
  
 AlarmSignal.register(60)
 
 Look like a timeout during mail sending to me. You have probably elog
 mail sending configured in make.conf and your mailserver is borked.
 

You were right. I hadn't configured the /etc/mail/aliases file.
Thanks !



Re: [gentoo-user] lost wireless network

2012-02-01 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
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Hash: SHA1

On 01.02.2012 21:33, pat wrote:
 On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 09:16:18 +0100, Hinnerk van Bruinehsen wrote On
 01.02.2012 00:34, pat wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:34:36 +0100, pat wrote
 On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:49:33 +1100, Adam Carter wrote
 There were a few kernels that broke iwlagn. Iirc it was
 3.1.5 and 3.1.6. So
 i'd suggest you stick to troubleshooting on a kernel you
 know has previously worked, or a very recent one.
 
 Well, that's the problem, it doesn't work on last working
 one too :- ( I've been using tuxonice-sources-2.6.38-r1 and
 it worked about 6 months ago, but not it doesn't :-(
 
 Thanks
 
 Pat
 
 Hello again,
 
 I've tried these kernels: 2.6.38-tuxonice-r1, 3.0.6-tuxonice,
  3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 and 3.2.1-gentoo-r2 but none of these
 works :-( The kernel config for 3.0.17-tuxonice-r1 (the
 kernel I want to use) is attached. I've checked wifi
 functionality on Linux Mint 11 live CD and it works.
 
 I have no idea what I have to check :-\ (I've checked the
 kernel setup, NetworkManager configuration, a lot of kernels
 :-) and I've also tried wicd).
 
 Could someone help?
 
 Thanks
 
 Pat
 
 You could add:
 
 [logging] level=DEBUG domains=HW,RFKILL,WIFI
 
 to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
 
 and try if you get an usable error...
 
 
 Hello,
 
 the log is attached. To me it looks like there's not an issue with 
 NetworkManager, but somewhere else, because, when I turn on the
 wireless toggle button, the wireless control doesn't indicate the
 wireless is on.
 
 Thanks for help
 
 Pat
 
 
 
  Freehosting PIPNI -
 http://www.pipni.cz/

Did you install the firmwarefiles for your WIFI-adapter?

try:

emerge sys-kernel/linux-firmware


If that works, you could uninstall it again and try to narrow it down
to your specific card - net-wireless/iwl6000-ucode would be my gues...

That could explain, why a livecd works (the firmware is included there).





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[gentoo-user] Re: /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3: undefined symbol: __guard

2012-02-01 Thread walt
On 02/01/2012 08:01 AM, Grant wrote:
 I get this when emerging python on a system I'm bringing up to date
 after 3 years of non-use:
 
 *** WARNING: renaming dbm since importing it failed:
 /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3: undefined symbol: __guard

I've never run a hardened machine, though it's really time I tried it.

libgdm_compat.so.3 links to /usr/lib32/libgdbm.so.3 and (on my non-
hardened) machine neither library needs anything with __guard.  I
think the 'guard' must refer to stack protection or similar that you
find only on hardened systems.

Something very vague in my memory associates 'multilib' only with
non-hardened systems -- but my memory could be wrong instead of
vague :)  Are the 32-bit compatible packages available in hardened
versions?




[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with internal compiler error

2012-02-01 Thread walt
On 02/01/2012 01:06 PM, Grant wrote:
 I do get this when emerging gcc-4.3.4:
 
  * Your x86 arch is not supported.
  * Hope you know what you are doing. Hardened will not work.

Are you upgrading from a non-hardened system?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with internal compiler error

2012-02-01 Thread Grant
 I do get this when emerging gcc-4.3.4:

  * Your x86 arch is not supported.
  * Hope you know what you are doing. Hardened will not work.

 Are you upgrading from a non-hardened system?

Nope, just upgrading gcc on a system that's always been hardened.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive went
out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he didn't
have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up today
and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.

When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
says this:

Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
hardware.

I never saw any error at any time until the message popped up.  The
install from the DVD went fine.  It is point and click basically.

After I first put the new drive in, I booted Sysrescue USB stick.  I
even ran the test on the drive.  I didn't see any errors on anything
there.  I'm fairly certain this isn't a hardware issue.

Any ideas on why this doesn't work?  Maybe have a fix?  Bad media?
Wrong media?  I ordered it by the big long number so if it is wrong,
Gateway picked the wrong thing but who knows.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy,

 I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive went
 out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he didn't
 have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up today
 and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
 in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
 that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
 disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.

 When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
 up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
 says this:

 Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
 hardware.

Be sure the BIOS is set to AHCI mode and not RAID/IDE/Legacy mode, if
possible. If AHCI is not a choice, but choices are nonetheless
available, try changing it to whatever the alternative setting is. The
idea being that the driver it's trying to use is not working, so maybe
the other driver will work long enough to boot and install updates, at
which point you can change the setting back to what it was and give
that a shot.

Does the new HDD have 4k sectors? I think Windows 7 can't be installed
on those without supplying an updated disk controller driver during
installation.



Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 07:41:29AM -0600, Dale wrote
 
[...major snippage...]
 
 So basically, WINDOZE SUCKS   LOL

  Actually, some Windows *DEVELOPERS* suck.  It's equivalant to some
linux developers assuming that /usr is mounted at the very beginning of
the boot process, so that their code can call all sorts of userspace
stuff... no waitG.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Howdy,

 I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive went
 out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he didn't
 have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up today
 and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
 in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
 that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
 disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.

 When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
 up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
 says this:

 Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
 hardware.
 
 Be sure the BIOS is set to AHCI mode and not RAID/IDE/Legacy mode, if
 possible. If AHCI is not a choice, but choices are nonetheless
 available, try changing it to whatever the alternative setting is. The
 idea being that the driver it's trying to use is not working, so maybe
 the other driver will work long enough to boot and install updates, at
 which point you can change the setting back to what it was and give
 that a shot.
 
 Does the new HDD have 4k sectors? I think Windows 7 can't be installed
 on those without supplying an updated disk controller driver during
 installation.
 
 


Your reply made me think of something.  I had a XP reinstall once that
required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive.  They
said it recognized the change in the serial numbers.  When I ran into
that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
number.  Does winders 7 have something similar?

I'll check into your idea tomorrow tho.  I hadn't even thought about
that.  I got the closest drive to it that I could find but I'm sure
there is a difference.

Thanks much for the idea.  Still open to more ideas tho.

Dale

:-)  :-)


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[gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.

Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
on my laptop.

This is a home system.

My requirements are modest.

1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
4.  Availability in U.S.

* I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name

My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).

Suggestions?

thanks,
allan gottlieb



RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
 From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM
 
 Howdy,
 
 I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive went
 out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he didn't
 have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up today
 and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
 in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
 that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
 disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
 
 When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
 up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
 says this:
 
 Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
 hardware.

Does this help?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753

You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.




RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
 From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM


 Your reply made me think of something.  I had a XP reinstall once that
 required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive.  They
 said it recognized the change in the serial numbers.  When I ran into
 that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
 number.  Does winders 7 have something similar?

Yes but that has nothing to do with your problem. If you change your
hardware too much, it will deactivate your license, but you'll get a pretty
clear error about that being the problem.

I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
it's been a while since I had that happen to me.

--Mike




Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread wdk@moriah
You can expect best case of 50% thru put for wifi (I.e., 50Mbs), and usually 
much less.  Think overhead for encryption, error recovery, and speed reduction 
for distance.  Add to that most wifi speeds on the box come from the marketing 
department ...

Then, if you are in a crowded (rf wise) environment, have an old 802.11b (10Mb) 
device in range and the antennas are more than few meters apart, someone is 
cooking dinner in the microwave, ...

Wired or wireless ... No contest!

W.Kenworthy


On 02/02/2012, at 9:08, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.
 
 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.
 
 This is a home system.
 
 My requirements are modest.
 
 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.
 
 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name
 
 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).
 
 Suggestions?
 
 thanks,
 allan gottlieb
 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote:
 From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM

 Howdy,

 I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive went
 out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he didn't
 have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up today
 and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
 in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
 that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
 disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.

 When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
 up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
 says this:

 Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
 hardware.
 
 Does this help?
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753
 
 You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
 article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.
 
 
 


Printed that page to try tomorrow.  I didn't change anything in the BIOS
tho.  It saw the drive right off.  I even used the same cable and power
plug as the old drive so it sees them as C: or whatever.

I bet it has something to do with AHCI or IDE settings tho.  I hope that
is it.  After I get the install done, I can then upgrade the drivers and
switch it back.

Thanks for the help.  I got a couple things to try tomorrow.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 07:41:29AM -0600, Dale wrote

 [...major snippage...]

 So basically, WINDOZE SUCKS   LOL

  Actually, some Windows *DEVELOPERS* suck.  It's equivalant to some
 linux developers assuming that /usr is mounted at the very beginning of
 the boot process, so that their code can call all sorts of userspace
 stuff... no waitG.

I was hoping someone else would make the point. But...yes. That was
most of the point of my email. :)

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Feb 01 2012, bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:



 On 02/02/2012, at 9:08, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.
 
 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.
 
 This is a home system.
 
 My requirements are modest.
 
 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.
 
 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name
 
 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).
 
 Suggestions?
 
 thanks,
 allan gottlieb
 
 You can expect best case of 50% thru put for wifi (I.e., 50Mbs), and usually 
 much less.  Think overhead for encryption, error recovery, and speed 
 reduction for distance.  Add to that most wifi speeds on the box come from 
 the marketing department ...

 Then, if you are in a crowded (rf wise) environment, have an old 802.11b 
 (10Mb) device in range and the antennas are more than few meters apart, 
 someone is cooking dinner in the microwave, ...

 Wired or wireless ... No contest!

 W.Kenworthy

I am asking for a recommendation of a router/wap.  I know the
wired/wireless tradeoffs.

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote:
 From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
 
 
 Your reply made me think of something.  I had a XP reinstall once that
 required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive.  They
 said it recognized the change in the serial numbers.  When I ran into
 that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
 number.  Does winders 7 have something similar?
 
 Yes but that has nothing to do with your problem. If you change your
 hardware too much, it will deactivate your license, but you'll get a pretty
 clear error about that being the problem.
 
 I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
 it's been a while since I had that happen to me.
 
 --Mike
 

That is what XP did that time.  This is the first time installing
anything newer than XP tho.  I did notice the install process sort of
changed.  I started to send a message to Gateway but it is out of
warranty.  I don't know if they charge for help or not but I wouldn't be
surprised if they do.

Thanks for all the help.  If anyone has other ideas, post away.  I will
test them tomorrow.

Have I ever mentioned I hate winders?  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.

 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.

 This is a home system.

 My requirements are modest.

 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.

 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name

 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).

 Suggestions?

 thanks,
 allan gottlieb



I picked up a TP-LINK TL WA701ND a couple weeks ago from Newegg, for
$30USD. I'm very happy with it as a single-SSID AP, though I intend to
get it set up in multi-SSID mode. I have it plugged into a Debian box
which is acting as a router.

But you need a router. I haven't *tried* it, but despite what the spec
sheet says for the device, the firmware includes all the configuration
options for setting it up as a router. $30 for a wireless-N device is
pretty decent.

Regarding wireless throughput...You can't receive a packet you haven't
sent. I max out my 30Mb/s internet connection* when I hit speed tests.
I can comfortably play video on my laptop over ssh X11 forwarding.
Wireless N is very, very nice.

* I pay for 20Mb/s down, but generally get 27-33Mbs/ down.
-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:08 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.

 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.

 This is a home system.

 My requirements are modest.

 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.

 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name

 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).

 Suggestions?

 thanks,
 allan gottlieb



 I picked up a TP-LINK TL WA701ND a couple weeks ago from Newegg, for
 $30USD. I'm very happy with it as a single-SSID AP, though I intend to
 get it set up in multi-SSID mode. I have it plugged into a Debian box
 which is acting as a router.

 But you need a router. I haven't *tried* it, but despite what the spec
 sheet says for the device, the firmware includes all the configuration
 options for setting it up as a router. $30 for a wireless-N device is
 pretty decent.

 Regarding wireless throughput...You can't receive a packet you haven't
 sent. I max out my 30Mb/s internet connection* when I hit speed tests.
 I can comfortably play video on my laptop over ssh X11 forwarding.
 Wireless N is very, very nice.

 * I pay for 20Mb/s down, but generally get 27-33Mbs/ down.

Erp. Sorry; didn't finish reading your email. Only one ethernet port.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread wdk@moriah


On 02/02/2012, at 11:02, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 01 2012, bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 
 On 02/02/2012, at 9:08, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 
 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.
 
 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.
 
 This is a home system.
 
 My requirements are modest.
 
 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.
 
 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name
 
 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).
 
 Suggestions?
 
 thanks,
 allan gottlieb
 
 You can expect best case of 50% thru put for wifi (I.e., 50Mbs), and usually 
 much less.  Think overhead for encryption, error recovery, and speed 
 reduction for distance.  Add to that most wifi speeds on the box come from 
 the marketing department ...
 
 Then, if you are in a crowded (rf wise) environment, have an old 802.11b 
 (10Mb) device in range and the antennas are more than few meters apart, 
 someone is cooking dinner in the microwave, ...
 
 Wired or wireless ... No contest!
 
 W.Kenworthy
 
 I am asking for a recommendation of a router/wap.  I know the
 wired/wireless tradeoffs.
 
 thanks,
 allan
 

Sorry, read it as wired or wireless.

Check out the buffalo routers -I have a G300NH which while it has a few early 
reports of bad wifi, it's been faultless for me.  After a couple of months I 
changed the custom ddwrt firmware for real ddwrt (basically  because I could!) 
and it's always been problem free.

My limited experience with 1G has been mixed - usually don't notice much of a 
difference though its occasionally wow! - mostly cisco devices though.

Billk





RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
 From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:43 PM
 
 Mike Edenfield wrote:
  From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM
 
  Howdy,
 
  I got a neighbour that has a computer issue.  First, the hard drive
went
  out.  We ordered a new one and installed it.  Then he realized he
didn't
  have the restore discs.  We ordered those from Gateway.  I went up
 today
  and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive.  I put the system disc
  in and it booted.  Then it asked for the recovery disc #1.  It copied
  that over then asked for disc 2.  After a bit it wanted the Language
  disc.  Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
 
  When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
  up the hardware and it seems to finish it.  Then a window pops up and
  says this:
 
  Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
  hardware.
 
  Does this help?
 
  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753
 
  You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
  article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.
 
 Printed that page to try tomorrow.  I didn't change anything in the BIOS
 tho.  It saw the drive right off.  I even used the same cable and power
 plug as the old drive so it sees them as C: or whatever.
 
 I bet it has something to do with AHCI or IDE settings tho.  I hope that
 is it.  After I get the install done, I can then upgrade the drivers and
 switch it back.

Make sure you check the ACHI setting before you install Windows: it's a pain
in the butt to change the settings later because Windows disables the ACHI
driver if it's not in use, and you have to manually re-enable it or your
boot will fail. (Kinda like having to enable the module for your root
drive). Of course, if you get it wrong you just lose some performance but
it's easy enough to just check first :)


--Mike




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.

2012-02-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:31:13PM -0500, Mike Edenfield wrote:
  From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
 
 
  Your reply made me think of something.  I had a XP reinstall once that
  required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive.  They
  said it recognized the change in the serial numbers.  When I ran into
  that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
  number.  Does winders 7 have something similar?

That's the Product Key, being 5x5 characters in size *looking at sticker on
bottom of laptop*. Once you entered the key, Windows activates itself online.
If that fails (e.g. if you used the key too often or the key is blacklisted,
etc), you can reactivate Windows via a phone call to MS.
 
 I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
 it's been a while since I had that happen to me.

Incidentally, I have this very situation in a virtual XP right now. Once that
grace period is over, it shuts you out completely. When I try to log in it
tells me that I need to activate it before I can log in. My choices are to
either enter a key into a dialog or to not do so, in which case I get thrown
back to the login screen. Neat, huh.

Windows 7 gives you some more leeway, in that it lets you log in to your
desktop, but IIRC the background is blackened and all you can open is IE to
open the MS site or summit like that.

There is a command which can rearm the 30 days counter at most twice, as long
as it hasn't run out yet.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 02/01/2012 07:36 AM, Dale wrote:

When 3.1 came out, I changed jobs.  Swapping 15 floppies is no fun to
me.  Funny, reinstalling fixed the problems back then and it still is
the best way to fix windoze.


I installed a Windows 95 beta from floppies :-)  Microsoft shipped them 
DMF formatted (1.68MB instead of 1.44MB) but still, they were way too 
many; around 30 disks or more.  And before doing that, I had to make 
copies of every single one in case they go bad.


Good times :-P




Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a router/WAP

2012-02-01 Thread J. Roeleveld

On Thu, February 2, 2012 2:08 am, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 I have a linksys wrt54G that is acting a little funny.

 Since my new laptop supports 1Gig wired ethernet and the wrt is 100Meg,
 I should upgrade even if the funny turns out to be just a config error
 on my laptop.

 This is a home system.

 My requirements are modest.

 1.  = 4 wired ethernet ports for systems/devices (at least 1 port 1Gig)
 2.  Wireless access point 802.11 b/g (n would be nice; a ok)
 3.  dhcp (with settable addresses see below*)
 4.  Availability in U.S.

 * I am actually running the so-called tomato firmware.  The std
 firmware did not let me set specific dhcp addresses for specific
 sources.  This is important to me.  My laptop is 192.168.1.70, one
 printer is .50, the other .55, two other laptops are .72, and .75.,
 Hence an /etc/hosts file lets each machine access the others by name

 My isp cablevision/optonline provides a modem with a wired ethernet
 port.  The router/wap should have an ethernet port (beyond the 4 above)
 to accept the modem output (I realize it is all bidirectional).

 Suggestions?

Not sure about availability, but Draytek has some nice routers with
GB-ports (also on the WAN side)
They also support VLANS and different IP-ranges per port.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

2012-02-01 Thread J. Roeleveld

On Wed, February 1, 2012 6:36 am, Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:

 On Tue, January 31, 2012 6:30 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
 Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office how long before someone makes
 a
 pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post pool; I just won
 $5.

 I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
 I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
 I was using Win7 - and was happy with it

 And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).

 I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation
 (Gentoo)
 and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.

 So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.

   I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
 more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
 down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of drive-by-downloads
 would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.

 I enjoyed MS Dos, then played a bit with MS Win3.11, MS Win95 and MS
 Win98SE.
 However, for important stuff, like day-to-day desktop, I switched to
 Linux
 in 1997. That was the last time I lost files due to a crash of MS
 Windows...

 --
 Joost





 When 3.1 came out, I changed jobs.  Swapping 15 floppies is no fun to
 me.  Funny, reinstalling fixed the problems back then and it still is
 the best way to fix windoze.

You should've tried installing MS Office back then...
45 (Or there-abouts) floppies and the installer asking for them in a
random order. With some of those being asked several times...

The guy asking for it paid a lot for it, so it wasn't too bad. ;)

--
Joost