[gentoo-user] No ISDN CAPI with new udev
Hi there! I can no longer connect to my ISDN peers. I think the reason is a recent change in the new udev. I have two rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-capi.conf: KERNEL==capi, NAME=capi20, SYMLINK+=isdn/capi20faxCAPI, GROUP=uucp, MODE=0666 KERNEL==capi*, NAME=capi/%n The first renames /dev/capi to /dev/capi20 and creates a symlink I do not need. The second creates a device in the capi sub-directory. But I get this in my syslog: Apr 08 15:34:34 [udevd] NAME=capi20 ignored, kernel device nodes can not be renamed; please fix it in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-capi.rules:1_ Apr 08 15:34:34 [udevd] NAME=capi/%n ignored, kernel device nodes can not be renamed; please fix it in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-capi.rules:3_ Indeed, the udev(7) man page has this: snip The following keys can get values assigned: NAME The name to use for a network interface. The name of a device node can not be changed by udev, only additional symlinks can be created. snap An older version, like currently on http://linux.die.net/man/7/udev , still has this: snip NAME The name of the node to be created, or the name the network interface should be renamed to. snap So it seems that a /dev/capi gets created which cannot be renamed any more, and so I cannot have a /dev/capi/* device. Any ideas what to do about this? Google does not find anything when I search for the kernel device nodes can not be renamed syslog message. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
Hi, is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick Hi, thank you very much for all the input. To clearify things a little: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: Extended file attributes: ext4
On 08/04/12 19:34, Mick wrote: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Yes, it's incorrect.
[gentoo-user] Re: Extended file attributes: ext4
On 08/04/12 19:44, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? Yes. David already explained how. Extended attributes can be enabled and disabled at any time. For even more information, Google it.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 18:34:46 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 08/04/12 19:34, Mick wrote: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Yes, it's incorrect. Thanks for letting me know. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick Hi, thank you very much for all the input. To clearify things a little: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Do the fsck: fsck.ext4 -yfD partition And (optionally) convert all the files and directories to use extends: find directory -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e find directory -xdev -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e I did this on my laptop and desktop (including the root filesystem, booting into emergency mode with systemd), and everything worked perfectly. Note, however, that you *need* GRUB2 if your kernel lives in an ext4 partition that it's not longer compatible with ext3. Don't do the change without migrating to GRUB2 before. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com [12-04-08 20:28]: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick Hi, thank you very much for all the input. To clearify things a little: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Do the fsck: fsck.ext4 -yfD partition And (optionally) convert all the files and directories to use extends: find directory -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e find directory -xdev -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e I did this on my laptop and desktop (including the root filesystem, booting into emergency mode with systemd), and everything worked perfectly. Note, however, that you *need* GRUB2 if your kernel lives in an ext4 partition that it's not longer compatible with ext3. Don't do the change without migrating to GRUB2 before. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Ok, thanks for the introduction and the link, Canek! :) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick Hi, thank you very much for all the input. To clearify things a little: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: On Sunday 08 Apr 2012 16:56:23 David W Noon wrote: On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 17:26:03 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote about [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4: is it possible to go from an ext4-filesystem with no extended file attributes to one with extended file attributes without reformatting the disk or other very risky low level things just by adding this feature to the kenrel (?) ? Yes, it's simple. You need to ensure that your kernel configuration has the extended attribute support (ACL is a good idea too) and you have booted with the ext4 driver so configured. You then add the xattr option in /etc/fstab for the filesystem(s) where you want extended attribute support. If you do that before you reboot (as above) then you will have full extended attribute support. I thought that you are meant to pass such options on the CLI at the time you are formatting the partition ... is this incorrect? Of course if you must format the drive with such options then the data won't survive. -- Regards, Mick Hi, thank you very much for all the input. To clearify things a little: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. Didn't we already had this discussion? You can mount an ext3 partition as ext4, and it will be treated as ext4, but it will keep bein fully backwards compatible with ext3 (i.e., you can still mount it as ext3). This, however, negates the purpose of using ext4, as you are not using extents: From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/ext4.txt: - Create a new filesystem using the ext4 filesystem type: # mke2fs -t ext4 /dev/hda1 Or to configure an existing ext3 filesystem to support extents: # tune2fs -O extents /dev/hda1 The moment you enable extents on a ext4 partition, you need to fsck the filesystem, and stops being backwards compatible (i.e., it will no longer mount as ext3, and in particular GRUB will not be able to read the kernel inside it). If the partition has extents support, doesn't necessarily means that their files use extents: Therefore, if you want to fully convert your partition to ext4 (i.e., make all the files and directories to use extents), you need to chattr +e every file and directory in the filesystem, hence the commands: find directory -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e find directory -xdev -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chattr +e Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: [snip] Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. Didn't we already had this discussion? You can mount an ext3 partition as ext4, and it will be treated as ext4, but it will keep bein fully backwards compatible with ext3 (i.e., you can still mount it as ext3). This, however, negates the purpose of using ext4, as you are not using extents: Sure, ext4 is a better filesystem than ext3. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing that. I'm disputing two things: 1) That you need to convert a filesystem to ext4 in order to use extended attributes. 2) That you need to convert the filesystem at all; Meino's 'status quo' filesystem is already ext4, per the portion of his email I quoted. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: [snip] Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. Didn't we already had this discussion? You can mount an ext3 partition as ext4, and it will be treated as ext4, but it will keep bein fully backwards compatible with ext3 (i.e., you can still mount it as ext3). This, however, negates the purpose of using ext4, as you are not using extents: Sure, ext4 is a better filesystem than ext3. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing that. I'm disputing two things: (bleh. Editing error. Omit phrase 'I'm disputing that') -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: [snip] Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. Didn't we already had this discussion? You can mount an ext3 partition as ext4, and it will be treated as ext4, but it will keep bein fully backwards compatible with ext3 (i.e., you can still mount it as ext3). This, however, negates the purpose of using ext4, as you are not using extents: Sure, ext4 is a better filesystem than ext3. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing that. I'm disputing two things: 1) That you need to convert a filesystem to ext4 in order to use extended attributes. 2) That you need to convert the filesystem at all; Meino's 'status quo' filesystem is already ext4, per the portion of his email I quoted. From Mick's mail: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. I assume with that he meant the extents option. Therefore, all the things I already said. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Extended file attributes: ext4
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 11:44 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [12-04-08 18:40]: [snip] Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. Way to go: No reformatting and mkfs and all that things. Only kernel reconfiguring / recompiling / rebooting and emerging some tools. Possible? As others had said, this is possible. I used this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/643 You need basically to enable the ext4-only features: tune2fs -O extents,uninit_bg,dir_index partition Um, why? Ext3 had extended attribute support, and ISTR the ext4 code being able to handle ext3 filesystems. Didn't we already had this discussion? You can mount an ext3 partition as ext4, and it will be treated as ext4, but it will keep bein fully backwards compatible with ext3 (i.e., you can still mount it as ext3). This, however, negates the purpose of using ext4, as you are not using extents: Sure, ext4 is a better filesystem than ext3. I'm not disputing that. I'm disputing that. I'm disputing two things: 1) That you need to convert a filesystem to ext4 in order to use extended attributes. 2) That you need to convert the filesystem at all; Meino's 'status quo' filesystem is already ext4, per the portion of his email I quoted. From Mick's mail: Status quo: System with ext4 and no extended attributes. Where I want to be: The same system with extended attributes. I assume with that he meant the extents option. Therefore, all the things I already said. Ah. 'extents' and 'extended attributes' are completely different things. I did a bit of googling to confirm my recollection. FWIW, I came across this very excellent page in discussion of Ext4 compared to other and previous filesystems: http://kernelnewbies.org/Ext4 -- :wq
[gentoo-user] Building the nvidia and ati proprietary drivers against the latest kernel.git
For many years I've been testing kernels from Linus's git repository and I find that about twice a year the kernel devs do something evil that breaks proprietary video drivers. (I suspect they do it on purpose but I can't prove it ;) I have no idea how many of you like to test bleeding edge kernels but I thought I'd ask. I have some seriously ugly hacks for building the nvidia (and very recently) the ati proprietary drivers against git kernels, but I won't spend time explaining them here if no one is interested.
