Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
Joshua Murphy wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Joshua Murphy wrote: snip Well, I don't see why not. As you say, lack of a proper clean up after a bad shutdown can cause problems. Anything in /run would disappear after a shutdown, clean or not, since it is in tmpfs. It doesn't seem to use much ram either. I really don't know of a reason why it couldn't be set that way. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed tho. lol As for one of us setting it to do that manually, I guess one could do that. If I recall correctly, /var/lock is *supposed* to be cleaned up when booting but that was a good long while ago. This may be something the devs are already getting ready for. I get the feeling that they are taking what I call baby steps. I noticed a upgrade to baselayout and I think OpenRC as well not long ago. I'm not sure what decided to put stuff in /run. I would think it would be one of those but it could be some other package. I guess udev could be one that could have made it as well. It does have a directory in there that has stuff in it. The rest are empty. I'd wait for a serious guru to reply before changing anything tho, just to be safe. ;-) You think being up late at night is bad. You should see me when my meds are making me goofy. lol Dale :-) :-) I would try it right now, but a) the only proper 'desktop' I have running is a windows box, the rest of my systems, netbook, laptops, and servers, are stripped down to the bare essentials and are likely to continue skipping along smoothly for a long while regardless of what I do to them, hardly a useful test for something that could potentially cause catastrophic breakage for more 'normal' systems, and b) if it *did* break, I would dread it as I went about trying to remember my exact steps to get there after I wake up tomorrow, especially with the fact that I'm aiming to head to the office when I wake, rather than toy around with fixing things here at home. Maybe tomorrow evening on a couple systems, if the idea itself doesn't bring about any don't do this, you'll break x responses between now and then (and, depending on the severity of the potential breakage, may still have to poke it with a stick). Be careful, sometimes when you poke things with a stick, it bites. ROFL Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] Well, given that it's there, it cleans up after itself, and it avoids issues in the instance where /var isn't available early on, is there much reason _not_ to link /var/run and /var/lock over to their respective equivalents on /run? I use systemd, which was the one introducing both /run and /run/lock: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2011-March/001757.html With systemd, /var/run and /var/lock are bind-mounted to /run and /run/lock respectively. /run uses in my laptop (regularly suspended, with an uptime of 25 days) 8.8 megabytes, which I think is basically nothing for my 4 gigabyte RAM. After more programs (dracut, plymouth) started using /run and /run/lock, OpenRC implemented the same functionality; or so I read somewhere, I haven't used OpenRC in a while. In theory, it should work the same as with systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. I'm sorry this is OT, but I bet you guys have some seriously good insight on this. Thanks, Grant For starters, you could give us a bit more insight into the kind of project we are talking about. What's the expected development effort, what are the services you pay for (binaries, source code, testing, maintenance, ...)? The project is made up of various and ongoing scripting tasks for a relatively complex website. Regarding programmer vs. company, I'd say it depends on what you expect and pay for. If you just want it coded, then the lone programmer is probably as good as the company (since programming itself doesn't really scale well with the number of devs). That's a really good point. Extensive testing, on the other hand, is something a team should do. Sure, the lone programmer can write you some unit tests and conduct a system test, but testing itself is a profession of its own and should be done by a second person with the relevant training. But in the end, these issues a minor. It really boils down to whom you trust more. Ask for references, look at their previous work, talk to them, etc. Can you tell me what sort of positive and negative things to watch out for? All things being equal, paying 1*x instead of 2*x gives you the chance to pay another 1*x to a second developer if things don't work out with the first one. ;-) Once I need more than one developer (which could come sooner rather than later due to the availability of these guys) am I likely to struggle managing them? I've read a bit about Agile software development and I plan to read a lot more. Is that the way to go? Would hiring a company make management a non-issue from my perspective? - Grant Regards, Florian Philipp
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: [ snip ] Well, given that it's there, it cleans up after itself, and it avoids issues in the instance where /var isn't available early on, is there much reason _not_ to link /var/run and /var/lock over to their respective equivalents on /run? I use systemd, which was the one introducing both /run and /run/lock: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2011-March/001757.html With systemd, /var/run and /var/lock are bind-mounted to /run and /run/lock respectively. /run uses in my laptop (regularly suspended, with an uptime of 25 days) 8.8 megabytes, which I think is basically nothing for my 4 gigabyte RAM. After more programs (dracut, plymouth) started using /run and /run/lock, OpenRC implemented the same functionality; or so I read somewhere, I haven't used OpenRC in a while. In theory, it should work the same as with systemd. I take that back; OpenRC doesn't bind-mount /run in /var/run. I ssh'd to a server running OpenRC, and /var/run is independent from /run. And still a regular directory, not a tmpfs. That's a shame. Given that udev uses /run (stable old version, 171-r6), OpenRC should use it too; there is basically no cost, and the gains are obvious. With systemd is automatic the bind-mounting of /run into /var/run. Perhaps a future version of OpenRC will use it? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
I have read through all replies, but I still did not find answers to my original questions: Q1: Can I somehow reduce the size of /run? I know it is tmpfs and I know this is upper limit normally never achieved, but I want to reduce this upper limit. Is it possible, or is it hard-coded to half of physical memory? Q2: Can I turn this /run in tmpfs feature off? I do not see *any* advantage in vasting memory for /run (although I agree there might be some point in moving run from /var/run to /run). But I see one big problem: If badly written application starts writing some crap in /run, it could deadlock my computer quite easily. And before you ask, no it is not so easy to do with /run on hard-drive because I have plenty of TB there and monitoring software running which alerts me as soon as any partition is half full. Unfortunatelly this does not work for tmpfs because with given read/write speed of ram-disk it would be full in a few seconds before I had any chance to act... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:05:46 +0200 Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: I have read through all replies, but I still did not find answers to my original questions: Q1: Can I somehow reduce the size of /run? I know it is tmpfs and I know this is upper limit normally never achieved, but I want to reduce this upper limit. Is it possible, or is it hard-coded to half of physical memory? I think this works IIRC: List it in /etc/fstab. Max size goes in the options field using the syntax described in man mount Q2: Can I turn this /run in tmpfs feature off? I do not see *any* advantage in vasting memory for /run (although I agree there might be some point in moving run from /var/run to /run). But I see one big problem: If if limit the tmpfs to say 100M or so then this is not a problem at all If badly written application starts writing some crap in /run, it could deadlock my computer quite easily. And before you ask, no it is not so easy to do with /run on hard-drive because I have plenty of TB there and monitoring software running which alerts me as soon as any partition is half full. Unfortunatelly this does not work for tmpfs because with given read/write speed of ram-disk it would be full in a few seconds before I had any chance to act... Jarry -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 04:29:17 +, Joshua Murphy wrote: Well, given that it's there, it cleans up after itself, and it avoids issues in the instance where /var isn't available early on, is there much reason _not_ to link /var/run and /var/lock over to their respective equivalents on /run? And both with and without /var mounted (so they exist and are writable even if /var doesn't come up)? I did that months ago to resolve an issue with a specific package that hadn't been updated to use /run at the time. I never got round to removing the links and it has caused no problems. -- Neil Bothwick Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:05:46 +0200, Jarry wrote: I have read through all replies, but I still did not find answers to my original questions: Q1: Can I somehow reduce the size of /run? I know it is tmpfs and I know this is upper limit normally never achieved, but I want to reduce this upper limit. Is it possible, or is it hard-coded to half of physical memory? That has been answered, either use fstab, which may or not work, or mount -o remount, which should. Q2: Can I turn this /run in tmpfs feature off? I do not see *any* advantage in vasting memory for /run Given that /var/run would be cached, at least initially, there is no more memory usage. If badly written application starts writing some crap in /run, it could deadlock my computer quite easily. And before you ask, no it is not so easy to do with /run on hard-drive because I have plenty of TB there and monitoring software running which alerts me as soon as any partition is half full. Unfortunatelly this does not work for tmpfs because with given read/write speed of ram-disk it would be full in a few seconds before I had any chance to act... Except that the default size is HALF your RAM, so something else would need to be using the other half and all your swap (tmpfs will use swap if physical memory is not available). -- Neil Bothwick Octal: (n.) a base-8 counting system designed so that one hand may count upon the fingers of the other. Thumbs are not used, and the index finger is reserved for the 'carry.' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
On Sat, 26 May 2012 23:22:22 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: Extensive testing, on the other hand, is something a team should do. Sure, the lone programmer can write you some unit tests and conduct a system test, but testing itself is a profession of its own and should be done by a second person with the relevant training. But in the end, these issues a minor. It really boils down to whom you trust more. Ask for references, look at their previous work, talk to them, etc. Can you tell me what sort of positive and negative things to watch out for? Here's a quick test that I've never seen fail: When you get the quote stage and are discussing numbers, ask for their estimate of how long it will take to produce a beta. Let's assume they say 6 weeks. You say you need it in 4. Can they do it? If they say yes in a way shape or form, do not use them. Go onto the next one. The reason is that development takes as long as it takes and the old adage of the production of a baby takes 9 months no matter how many women are assigned to the task. A mature dev or team know this, stand by their estimates and politely won't be swayed. Everything else is common sense, and the best recommendation is word of mouth from someone you already trust All things being equal, paying 1*x instead of 2*x gives you the chance to pay another 1*x to a second developer if things don't work out with the first one. ;-) Once I need more than one developer (which could come sooner rather than later due to the availability of these guys) am I likely to struggle managing them? I've read a bit about Agile software development and I plan to read a lot more. Is that the way to go? Agile is nothing more than the way a team organizes itself so they can keep on top of things. If it were software, it would be a neat add-on like bash-completion (without it you still have all of bash). When Agile works out, it works really really well but it takes discipline from the programmers. All Agile methods have some way of bringing constant feedback to the devs so they can assess how they are going and easily deal with the inevitable mistakes. It also lets them experiment a bit with different technologies and change implementations without upsetting the whole apple cart. Agile is subject to much buzz-wording just like everything else in our field :-( A mature dev team who know what they are doing can use it correctly and well.So be sure to look for real evidence that it's being used, not tossed about as a cute buzz-word We use Scrum at work and for us it works well - we get to concentrate on the task at hand and can spot bugs and show-stoppers quite quickly. But it's very important to observe that it's not Scrum that magically makes all things good all by itself - it works because we know what we are doing and Scrum is just giving us the right information at the right time so we can keep on track. There are potentially 100s of ways to do that, but without out basic skills in place Scrum couldn't help at all. Would hiring a company make management a non-issue from my perspective? Not really, you may just end up have to manage the managers that manage the devs :-) A good software house is like a good builder - some you can leave to get on with it even though the truck is shabby (like the chaps that redid my bathroom). Some have flashy shiny trucks but are still short on clue (like the chaps who first quoted my bathroom and didn't get the job) -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
Am 27.05.2012 08:22, schrieb Grant: I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. [...] For starters, you could give us a bit more insight into the kind of project we are talking about. What's the expected development effort, what are the services you pay for (binaries, source code, testing, maintenance, ...)? The project is made up of various and ongoing scripting tasks for a relatively complex website. Regarding programmer vs. company, I'd say it depends on what you expect and pay for. If you just want it coded, then the lone programmer is probably as good as the company (since programming itself doesn't really scale well with the number of devs). That's a really good point. [...] But in the end, these issues a minor. It really boils down to whom you trust more. Ask for references, look at their previous work, talk to them, etc. Can you tell me what sort of positive and negative things to watch out for? I probably don't have enough experience to give you an exhaustive list. However, since this is a web development, the two biggest points I'd be looking at are: 1. How do they plan to separate the production environment from testing and development? You don't want to crash your site just because the dev is too lazy to test his changes beforehand. 2. Do they have a basic understanding about web security? What precautions do they take with regard to XSS, CSRF and the classic injections (HTTP header, SQL, Shell, etc.)? Do these words even ring a bell to them? Methodology is also a good indicator: Are they happy hackers with no real software engineering background, then they'll probably be good for smaller projects but will break down on large ones where you need the additional management. On the other hand, if they throw only buzzwords at you, I'd get suspicious. All things being equal, paying 1*x instead of 2*x gives you the chance to pay another 1*x to a second developer if things don't work out with the first one. ;-) Once I need more than one developer (which could come sooner rather than later due to the availability of these guys) am I likely to struggle managing them? I've read a bit about Agile software development and I plan to read a lot more. Is that the way to go? Two independent programmers working on the same project? I wouldn't do that unless they know each other and have experience working together. If you need to scale beyond the capabilities of your contractor, you should definitely start with a larger contractor (i.e. the company). I cannot give you any insight on agile development. First and foremost because I've never worked agile (well, unless you count rapid prototyping) but also because that's one of those buzzwords that can mean many different things to different people. Would hiring a company make management a non-issue from my perspective? Not completely but it's definitely better than managing two developers. You should still try to be in close contact with them. See if they understand your requirements, watch their progress, look at their intermediate results, plan the final acceptance testing with them and so on. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 09:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:05:46 +0200 Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: I have read through all replies, but I still did not find answers to my original questions: Q1: Can I somehow reduce the size of /run? I know it is tmpfs and I know this is upper limit normally never achieved, but I want to reduce this upper limit. Is it possible, or is it hard-coded to half of physical memory? I think this works IIRC: List it in /etc/fstab. Max size goes in the options field using the syntax described in man mount Q2: Can I turn this /run in tmpfs feature off? I do not see *any* advantage in vasting memory for /run (although I agree there might be some point in moving run from /var/run to /run). But I see one big problem: If if limit the tmpfs to say 100M or so then this is not a problem at all If badly written application starts writing some crap in /run, it could deadlock my computer quite easily. And before you ask, no it is not so easy to do with /run on hard-drive because I have plenty of TB there and monitoring software running which alerts me as soon as any partition is half full. Unfortunatelly this does not work for tmpfs because with given read/write speed of ram-disk it would be full in a few seconds before I had any chance to act... Jarry all on one line: tmpfs /tmptmpfs size=2500M,mode=1777,noatime,auto 0 0 4G ram (diskless, atom board) works well 3G on an otherwise similar system goes bang when compiling glibc or gcc as portage and portage tmp in /tmp and ram needed for compiling meet in the middle :) Helped by swap on an NDB and mapping some space over NFS when really needed. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. [snip] Thank you Florian and Alan. This subject has proven difficult to research and how cool to get in touch with lucid and experienced individuals like yourselves. I think I need to hire one or more programmers and manage them myself precisely because I don't know how to do it. For many years I handled all business duties myself, and I've slowly been handing off duties, and I think that has been working because I know first-hand exactly how each of those duties should be done. So many times my business has required something I don't know how to do and I've been faced with the choice of learning how to do it myself or hiring someone who does. I've chosen to learn how to do it myself every single time and it's served me well, although it is very much the long and hard way. I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
Am Sonntag, 27. Mai 2012, 09:09:26 schrieb Grant: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? seriously? asking those questions? Get a company. Make it their problem to worry about managing the bearded ones. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? seriously? asking those questions? Get a company. Make it their problem to worry about managing the bearded ones. Too flailing? How about this: 2x 8-hour days per week, or 5x 3-hour days? Specific days and a specific time of day? Should I bother with a contract for a dev working in a different country than mine? I hope to hire someone for ongoing work on various small projects, so the project itself wouldn't belong in the contract. Maybe an NDA or something, but would that make sense with each of us in a different country? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird - Anyone else with this problem?
On 05/26/2012 12:16 AM, Colleen Beamer wrote: Hi, Ever since the last time Thunderbird was updated when I synced, the process does not die when I shut down Thunderbird. I have to kill it before I can start up Thunderbird again. Is anyone else experiencing this problem. Yes, same here. Thought I would ask here before I complained to the Mozilla folks. Regards, Colleen Sebastian
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:53:22 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? seriously? asking those questions? Get a company. Make it their problem to worry about managing the bearded ones. Too flailing? How about this: 2x 8-hour days per week, or 5x 3-hour days? Specific days and a specific time of day? Should I bother with a contract for a dev working in a different country than mine? I hope to hire someone for ongoing work on various small projects, so the project itself wouldn't belong in the contract. Maybe an NDA or something, but would that make sense with each of us in a different country? Those questions are very revealing. If you truly need to ask them, then your path has already been established: You need an existing development house with a reputation to uphold, located in the same city as you. NDAs and contracts in a different country are for all practical intents and purposes unenforceable. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} hire a programmer or company?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 09:09:26 -0700 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm debating whether I should hire an expert programmer for $X/hour, or a company of expert programmers for $2X/hour. It makes sense from a financial perspective to hire programmers directly, but I wonder if there are benefits to hiring a really good company. [snip] Thank you Florian and Alan. This subject has proven difficult to research and how cool to get in touch with lucid and experienced individuals like yourselves. I think I need to hire one or more programmers and manage them myself precisely because I don't know how to do it. For many years I handled all business duties myself, and I've slowly been handing off duties, and I think that has been working because I know first-hand exactly how each of those duties should be done. So many times my business has required something I don't know how to do and I've been faced with the choice of learning how to do it myself or hiring someone who does. I've chosen to learn how to do it myself every single time and it's served me well, although it is very much the long and hard way. I'll be getting my feet wet with this shortly. Any other tips regarding the management of one or more programmers working on various small web projects? Maybe workflow or any key procedures a newbie manager should follow? You can get away with almost anything except these two things: Do not micro-manage Do not tell them how to do what they do For everything else, good old communication (that thing you do lots of in business) will see you through. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Can't emerge any gcc
Hi,
I can't emerge any gcc. I tried emerging 4.7, 4.5.3-r2 with no luck.
Should I file a bug?
Thanks,
Ezequiel.
---
Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
Configuring stage 1 in i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux-gnu
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/i686-linux-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
checking for C compiler default output file name...
configure: error: in
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
make[2]: *** [configure-stage1-target-libgomp] Error 77
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
emake failed
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
Failed to emerge sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'
* Messages for package sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2:
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird - Anyone else with this problem?
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Colleen Beamer colleen.bea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Ever since the last time Thunderbird was updated when I synced, the process does not die when I shut down Thunderbird. I have to kill it before I can start up Thunderbird again. Is anyone else experiencing this problem. Thought I would ask here before I complained to the Mozilla folks. Maybe unrelated, but I experienced this off on over the past months/years when using Enigmail with Thunderbird.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge any gcc
probably not, you will need some more info as its a bit vague:
What does gcc -v say?
and gcc-config -l
Can you compile anything, either through emerge or manually (i.e., even
a small hello world)
Need to narrow it down.
BillK
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 20:33 -0300, Ezequiel Garcia wrote:
Hi,
I can't emerge any gcc. I tried emerging 4.7, 4.5.3-r2 with no luck.
Should I file a bug?
Thanks,
Ezequiel.
---
Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
Configuring stage 1 in i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux-gnu
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/i686-linux-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
checking for C compiler default output file name...
configure: error: in
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
make[2]: *** [configure-stage1-target-libgomp] Error 77
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
emake failed
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
Failed to emerge sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'
* Messages for package sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2:
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge any gcc
Hi, On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:48 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: probably not, you will need some more info as its a bit vague: What does gcc -v say? Using built-in specs. Target: i686-pc-linux-gnu Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5/work/gcc-4.4.5/configure --prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.4.5 --includedir=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/include --datadir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5 --mandir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/man --infodir=/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/info --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/include/g++-v4 --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --disable-altivec --disable-fixed-point --without-ppl --without-cloog --enable-nls --without-included-gettext --with-system-zlib --disable-werror --enable-secureplt --disable-multilib --enable-libmudflap --disable-libssp --enable-libgomp --with-python-dir=/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/python --enable-checking=release --disable-libgcj --with-arch=i686 --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --with-bugurl=http://bugs.gentoo.org/ --with-pkgversion='Gentoo 4.4.5 p1.3, pie-0.4.5' Thread model: posix gcc version 4.4.5 (Gentoo 4.4.5 p1.3, pie-0.4.5) and gcc-config -l localhost v4l-dvb # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.5 * Can you compile anything, either through emerge or manually (i.e., even a small hello world) Indeed! I can emerge other stuff. Plus right now I'm working and compiling my stuff. Feel free to ask me anything else, Thanks, Ezequiel.
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge any gcc
Ezequiel Garcia wrote: Hi, I can't emerge any gcc. I tried emerging 4.7, 4.5.3-r2 with no luck. Should I file a bug? Thanks, Ezequiel. I ran into this a while back and I had to do a emerge -e system then a emerge -e world. I'm not saying to do this yet but if no one posts a fix, you may have to try that route. In the meantime, make sure everything in make.conf is set correctly. Check for typos and other silly mistakes. Maybe post it here and see if someone else sees something. I don't even want to try to count the times all of us have had a typo that wrecks everything. Check gcc-config -l to make sure it is set. I have corrected issues in the past by changing it to a older gcc then back to the new one. I guess something got corrupted or something. It only takes a few seconds, it could be worth a try. Running env-update and source /etc/profile in between while at it. You can try revdep-rebuild to see if that helps but it may not. Sometimes you have to run that multiple times and check for mixing stable and unstable packages. There are occasions where mixing stable/unstable does not turn out to well. This is a common thing and I wouldn't file a bug report. It usually turns out to be a operator error or some setting that got messed up. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Hold on to your hair. No need to pull it out. lol -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] How to access newsgroup?
Well, what do you expect out of the PRC, anyway? Good luck. Terry This is resulted by company's security policy. I can login in newsgroup at home. It's OK, at lease mailist was not blocked. Thank you. -- Best regards Wenpin Cui (崔文频） Hangzhou, Zhejiang, PRC Tel: +86-0571-86726288 ext:8095
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge any gcc
On May 28, 2012 6:39 AM, Ezequiel Garcia elezegar...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I can't emerge any gcc. I tried emerging 4.7, 4.5.3-r2 with no luck.
Should I file a bug?
Thanks,
Ezequiel.
---
Checking multilib configuration for libgomp...
Configuring stage 1 in i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp
configure: loading site script /usr/share/config.site
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux
configure: loading site script /usr/share/crossdev/include/site/linux-gnu
configure: loading site script
/usr/share/crossdev/include/site/i686-linux-gnu
configure: creating cache ./config.cache
checking for --enable-version-specific-runtime-libs... no
checking for --enable-generated-files-in-srcdir... no
checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking for i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc...
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/xgcc
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/./gcc/
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include
checking for C compiler default output file name...
configure: error: in
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libgomp':
configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
See `config.log' for more details.
make[2]: *** [configure-stage1-target-libgomp] Error 77
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make[1]: *** [stage1-bubble] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
emake failed
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
Failed to emerge sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2, Log file:
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'
* Messages for package sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2:
* ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed with bootstrap-lean
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 85: Called src_compile
* environment, line 3866: Called toolchain_src_compile
* environment, line 4507: Called gcc_do_make
* environment, line 2223: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} STAGE1_CFLAGS=${STAGE1_CFLAGS}
LIBPATH=${LIBPATH} BOOT_CFLAGS=${BOOT_CFLAGS} ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}
|| die emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET};
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv
=sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2'.
*
* Please include
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build/gcc-build-logs.tar.bz2
in your bug report
*
* The complete build log is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/build.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/temp/environment'.
* S: '/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r2/work/build'
What's your CFLAGS?
Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 05:17:54PM -0500, Dale wrote I guess the devs are getting ready for the ultimate screwup udev and friends is putting in place. Oh well. This is life. I guess that explains why I have /var/run but no /run on my mdev-based system. G -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I control size of /run (tmpfs)?
On May 28, 2012 9:11 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 05:17:54PM -0500, Dale wrote I guess the devs are getting ready for the ultimate screwup udev and friends is putting in place. Oh well. This is life. I guess that explains why I have /var/run but no /run on my mdev-based system. G LOL :-D That makes two of us, Walt :-) But my newer servers has /run (and its children) from the get go, because I think it kind of makes sense. Even though they're udev-free. Rgds,
